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Hey everybody, it's time for the Charlie Kirk Show. Chloe Cole joins us about the awful nature of gender-affirming care. Just terrible. You guys should know all about it. And then John Amachuku joins us about why Christians are not voting. And Kamala Harris finds a kindred spirit in Alex Cooper. They have a lot in common. And then finally, Jake Hoffman joins the program to talk about a major scandal in Arizona.

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Your kid could get sick. You could get sick. You can get delayed. Joining us now is Chloe Cole, one of our great Americans. She does a great job. Chloe Cole is a detransitioner and an activist. Chloe, welcome back to the program. Chloe, you want to talk about an upcoming event you have here in Arizona. Yes. So I am going to give a presentation with some friends of mine at the Redeemer Bible Church today.

in Gilbert, Arizona, which will be on October 12th. And the doors are going to open at 9.30 and the event will start at 10.30. QR code and the link for the tickets are going to be in my bio and in my pinned on X and in my bio on Instagram as well.

It's great. So just reintroduce yourself to the audience, Chloe. You're one of the most outspoken and important voices in the detransitioner movement. You were lied to and were basically manipulated, if I may say so, as part of this trans craze. Remind us of your story, please. So I am a formerly trans-identified teen.

And I went through the process of a social and medical gender transition between the ages of 12 to 16. So after years of being an awkward tomboyish girl, I started calling myself a boy because I was mistaken about my identity around the age of 12.

And at 13 years old, I was fast-tracked into the medical process of that, starting with the use of puberty blockers and testosterone injections. And at 15 years old, before I was even legally able to drive, I...

had undergone a double mastectomy to surgically remove my breasts. And it took less than a year for me to realize I wanted to become a mother and that I regretted this process. And I chose to detrench. And I've been speaking since I was 17 about my experience, about what me and my family went through with the medical system and trying to advocate for a better standard of care for these kids who need help. They don't need surgery.

They need to be shown love and compassion and to be allowed to grow up with their bodies fully intact. And so, Chloe, this is can you talk about how widespread is this right now? Do we have any idea of how many kids are undergoing gender affirming care? I mean, it's in the thousands right now. We don't have an exact number, but I've been all across the country, I think, to over 35 states now.

And I've even been abroad to two different countries. I recently went to Australia and New Zealand. And everywhere I've been, every community that I've been to has been affected by this issue in some way. I've met...

Everywhere I've been, I've met either detransitioners or people who still identify as transgender or are struggling with that part of their identity. Or I've met family members who are struggling with this, with them. Walk through the sequence that happens is they receive a lot of this information online and talk about your story where people might be having puberty anxiety. They might have other mental health issues where it really is a brain issue.

but they're, they're treating it like a body issue. Tell us more. Right. I mean, there's this misconception, misconception that being transgender is an innate trait or that it's biological, but there is no biological or physiological marker that makes somebody transgender. There's no gene. There is no structure in the brain. It's,

It's really the medicalization of either normal feelings around puberty that a lot of girls and even boys have while growing up,

Or for many, it comes from a place of trauma related to one's family or having been assaulted, especially early in life. And a lot of these people are also somewhere on the autistic spectrum or they've been diagnosed with a similar learning disability. So when you hear Kamala Harris and Tim Walz say that it is the loving thing to do to give 14-year-olds puberty blockers, what is your reaction to that? I think it's the absolute least loving thing that you can do because here's—

you're not only lying to the child that the way that they're lovingly made in their mother's womb is wrong, that they are broken, but you're also allowing them to believe that the only fix for them is to become a slave to the pharmaceutical and medical industries, that they shouldn't be allowed to grow up with their health,

their body parts, their reproductive capabilities fully intact, which I think the right to growing up with a fully intact body and the ability to fully live out one's adulthood is the single greatest right that every single child has. So, Chloe, I want to ask, you're going to the church for a reason. Tell us why.

Does the church get this? Does the average rank and file evangelical Christian understand what's going on here? No, not at all. And that is exactly the problem. The church is the absolute most important place that we have to go to with this message, because this is something, as I said, that is affecting every single one of our communities. I have been

to so many places. And I've met so many children and parents and families who have been afflicted by this ideology. It's not something that we can, that parents can avoid anymore. It's something that is so prevalent in the culture that every child, every young person has been exposed to it

in some way. Like, I was playing this game called Fortnite with my friend's little brother the other day. And even on that game, I was seeing content with the progress flag on it. It's unavoidable now for every kid, whether it be on the internet or a game that they're playing or through their peers or through school. But I don't think that the answer is to just completely bar children from it completely and to ignore it with them. We have to tell them

the truth. We have to tell them that there are bad actors out there who are using symbols such as the rainbow, which is a biblical symbol for bad means. And we have to teach our children how to discern between truth and between falsehoods in order to change our culture. And even though this is so widespread, I mean, I've been to so many churches, most churches I've been to actually,

are not willing to talk about this issue, even though it is affecting their own congregation, even though it is somewhere in their community. So, Chloe, let me ask you this. This has become a political issue. Would you personally ever vote for a candidate that supports giving children gender-affirming care or puberty blockers? No, I would absolutely not give my vote to any candidate who advocates for puberty

this use of iatrogenic medicine in children because it is a violation of the rights. It is a human rights violation to take away the fertility and the body parts and to disfigure a perfectly healthy child who just needs help. Chloe, God bless you. I have to be honest with you. Our failure as Republicans to make this a primary election issue this cycle is disappointing.

I wish it would have been brought up in one of the debates. This is a human rights issue, as you say. It's happening to thousands, if not tens of thousands of kids right now across the country. And there is no spin. Chloe, God bless you. We'll promote your event in Arizona. Thanks so much. Thank you so much.

Yeah.

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For months, we at Turning Point Action have been reaching out to the University of Arizona asking if we could rent lists and get access to the data of students to get them to register to vote. We're told, no, we don't do that. We don't do that. Well, in a huge scandal, Arizona State University and University of Arizona both shared all of the personal information and data of all the students, every single student at Arizona State University, and sent out this text message. Look at this. Encouraging them to go vote and vote for Kamala Harris and register to vote.

This is 150,000 students from all Arizona universities, including ASU and U of A, received personal text messages from Kamala Harris's campaign. Where did they get this data? Who shared it with them? We've tried to get access to it. We were given the runaround. The Trump campaign tried to get access to it. They were given the runaround. Joining us now is Jake Hoffman, who is a state senator here in the great state of Arizona and also RNC committeeman for Arizona State.

Jake, what's going on here? Well, Charlie, thanks for having me on. It looks like we have a potentially massive security breach at all Arizona public universities. You mentioned Arizona State and University of Arizona. However, it was also Northern Arizona University that is wrapped up in this scandal. And in fact, I've had, you know, I had a tweet that went viral on this over 10,000 reposts. And in that, in the replies there, I've received comments

documented evidence from students in Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, Michigan, New Mexico, New Hampshire, and North Carolina that this exact same text message or a very close variation of was sent to all of their students as well. Now look, this is as you mentioned,

the Trump campaign turning point action, Republican groups have been attempting to get access to similar information so that they can provide valuable information about voting deadlines and things like that to students on campus, yet they've been repeatedly denied. But here it looks like the red carpet was rolled out from the Kamala Harris campaign. And that begs the question,

What are these universities doing with our public tax dollars? And why are they favoring one political party over another? Well, this is super illegal. And so, Jake, walk me through who potentially could have done this. It may be the Board of Regents because they oversee...

The entire system, if I'm not mistaken. Right. I think the Board of Regents oversees both the U of A, ASU and NAU system, if I'm not mistaken. Who who could have done this? Because it couldn't have even been Michael Crow. It couldn't. I mean, the president of U of A, from what I understand, is not a left winger and he's like more moderate. So who actually has the data and the ability to share it to the Kamala Harris campaign? That list would be very short.

That's a great point. Yeah. You know, the U of A president, as you mentioned, is more of a moderate. He's been generally a common sense individual. Arizona State University has a long track record of being highly partisan, but still it would take a massive coordinated effort between the three campuses that I think just doesn't seem reasonable or plausible. Right. And so the reality is the board of regents does would have access to this information. Now, that is an appointed board appointed by the

Katie Hobbs, a radical leftist Democrat governor. And as we've seen with other agencies throughout the Arizona government, when Katie Hobbs or her staff ask them to do things that are ethically and potentially illegal, ethically questionable or illegal, they have jumped and done it immediately when she asked.

And so I think this is really going to be a question of how high does this go, who had knowledge and at what point? And we have to get to the bottom of that, which is why I've opened a full investigation with the Senate Committee on Government in Arizona. We are going to chase this down. Look, we may not have all the answers.

by election day. Obviously, the text has gone out, so that cat is out of the bag. But we are going to stay on this issue because we cannot have public universities using taxpayer dollars to put their finger on the scale and potentially tip the favor of the election towards one side. Yeah. So tell us in closing here, Jake, what does that recourse look like? Is there going to be a lawsuit filed? I mean, this is blatantly illegal. Yeah.

Yeah, it could look like a number of things. It could look like defunding during the appropriations process. It could look like a lawsuit. It could look like, quite honestly, an investigation and prosecution by the Maricopa County attorney, which is a Republican. You know, in Arizona, we have a Democrat attorney general. She's a radical Marxist.

And so I doubt that she'll take this issue seriously since it's Kamala Harris. However, we do have a sensible Republican county attorney who's running for reelection. And should she get reelected? This seems very much in her wheelhouse, considering the Arizona State University and Northern Arizona University and University of Arizona all have campuses within Maricopa County. So we'll be pursuing all avenues possible to make sure that there's accountability on this issue. Thanks so much, Jake. We'll talk to you soon. Thank you. Thanks for having me.

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Joining us now is Pastor John Amunchukwu, TPUSA faith contributor, author of Erased and filmmaker. Yeah, let's play the trailer of his upcoming film, 22 Words. I believe that is cut 34. Is that right? Okay, cut 34. It's Amunchukwu, and it means I know God. That's what it means. And for you to have a policy that says that in this meeting you're against vulgarity, then that means this board is a hypocrite if you endorse books like this to be in the school system.

They can't make me leave. I have freedom of speech. And you are supposed to uphold that. I think there's men and women that are ignorant of our educational system. They're still thinking that this is like when I went to school. If they think that a 14-year-old should be reading this in school, we have a serious problem. Are there any other books that are out there? There are hundreds and hundreds.

God never intended for the church to be hid in a corner. That's not what God called us to do. We're supposed to occupy until he comes, but we do that standing. If you pervert the hearts and the minds of kids in this district, you will reap it. I'm disgusted. What a shame you all are.

How do you define leftist indoctrination? A communist movement just at the heart. It's about dividing society, dividing parents from children, male and female, whatever the case may be. And once you're educated, then you can fight it. Your time's up. My time is not up. I'm not leaving. You know why I'm not leaving? Because I came too far to defend these children in this district. With us is John Aminchukwu. Tell us more, John, about this.

So my new documentary released this past Thursday entitled 22 Words Exposing the Indecent Indoctrination of

of the woke public school system. 22 words comes from a school sponsored prayer that was banned in 1962. It was a non-denominational, non-proselytizing prayer. It said, "Almighty God, we acknowledge our dependence upon thee and we beg thy blessings upon us, our parents, our teachers, and our country." When that prayer was banned, the public school system tanked and the Marxist atheist ideologies

ran rampant. And today, the public school system has gone from prayer to porn, from prayer to transgenderism, from prayer to critical race theory, and now from prayer to allowing kids to go to school with litter boxes in the name of furries. This documentary exposes much of what is going on today in our public schools, and everyone needs to go and see it. So let me understand here,

Reverend, that you've been going across the country, and this is also we wanted to have you on about the North Carolina deal, and not always met with positive reaction. Tell us about what happened recently at the school board meeting in North Carolina where they escorted you off.

Well, North Carolina has two major issues. Number one, they are violating the law in that they're not fully enacting what is called HB 49, which is the newly passed parental rights bill in North Carolina that was passed in May of 2023 and then finally enacted of January 1 of this year.

That law states that in grades K through four, you're not supposed to have gender confusion books still in the libraries. And the Wake County School Board meeting there had failed to do so to adhere to that. And then also you have the issue of a young girl by the name of Lorena Benson, who at the age of 15 went to the Wake County School Board meeting two weeks ago and told them that she was forced to read a short story in class and discuss it, talked about putting

a banana into a tomato. It was an incestuous relationship that two cousins were having, and she was traumatized by that. And the school board did nothing to bring her justice. And so they get to break the law, violate the law, do what they want to do, and be tyrants. And so I came to the school board meeting and gave an address

talking about the issues at hand. And I told them that, hey, since you all like to break the laws, since you want to play by your own rules, when this clock strikes three minutes, I'm not leaving the podium. And guess what? The cops rush in immediately and grab me by the arm, but they're not grabbing the woke tyrants on the school board, nor are they forcing them to adhere to the law. But they put the black Christian conservative pastor

in handcuffs. Why? Because I'm standing for truth. And what I did is simply peaceful, civil disobedience. And we need more of that around this country. We cannot allow these Marxist, atheist, Kamala Harris driven, Joe Biden driven nuts to dominate the education system. Parents must fight back. And I am leading the charge. I want to just take a step back here

And ask the question, is the new belief in in public education that parents or teachers are in charge of children? Oh, it's teachers. You know, kids are wards of the state now. You know, we are now co-parenting with the government. And that's not God's design. Children are on loan to their parents by God. The Bible says train up a child in the way that he should go. And when he's old, he will not depart from it.

That commandment is not given to the state. It's not given to woke school boards. It wasn't given to the Wake County School Board. It was given to parents. And so now more than ever, parents must be in the game. And Charlie, we've worked together on this issue for over two years now. And thanks to Dr. Bob and his support, we've now been to 15 states.

We've been able to flip two school boards, strike down a transgender policy. We've been able to remove dozens of pornographic books around the country, and we're just getting started. That's why everyone needs to go and watch the documentary. Go to 22wordsfilm.com, 22wordsfilm.com. This is a movement that will not stop. And guess what? Just because they put me in handcuffs once

doesn't mean that I'm afraid to be handcuffed again. I am going back.

I love that. And so I want to now segue here, Pastor, to a new survey that has come out that shows that Christians are stepping away from the voting booth. 68% of Christians lack any interest in politics. Only 52% believe their vote will make a difference. 48% believe that elections are manipulated. And only 51% of Christians plan to vote this November, according to George Barna. Your thoughts, John Amanchukwu?

It's sad. One in three Christians vote. That is true. But also, according to George Barna, only 36% of senior pastors have a biblical worldview. That's the problem. We have punks, better yet, sissies in the pulpit who wear lace and won't preach the truth.

the truth and they get behind the lectern and they hem and haw and they equivocate. They won't preach the word of God. It's so easy, Charlie. God gave us 66 books from Genesis to Revelations. Just pick one and preach, but the pastors won't do it because they're more beholden to the Democrat party or to the donkey than they are to the cross. And I say to pastors all around this country,

that the blood is on your hands if you fail to speak up. We can't expect President Trump to have a stronger Christian ethos than the Christian pastor. We can't expect that. We can't expect President Trump to be tougher on these abortion laws than we do our average pastor. The role of the church is to engage the culture, and pastors have failed to do so. That was so clear and beautifully put. However, other pastors say, but...

Donald Trump is too mean. What do you have to say to that? Well, you know, there were times where Jesus was mean. You know, he called people a generation of vipers. You know, he told us not to cast our pearls before swine. You know, the early church, keep in mind, the early church would cut you before they consoled you. Consider Peter. This man stands up after the day of Pentecost and he begins to preach a message and he cuts those individuals to the heart that had crucified Jesus.

The gospel is confrontational. No one gets saved off of Mary had a little lamb. That's cute, but it doesn't redeem. People need to be confronted with the truth. And that's what the American church is lacking.

And so what can we then do to increase Christian care and turnout? It's remarkable, Reverend, at how many pastors, I mean, how many Christians who will go to church and not care about the nation or the country they're in.

Reverend, more abortion fanatics, abortion fanatics care more about America than most Christians. How is that possible? It's sad. You know, like I said, the pastors don't have a biblical worldview. When you consider even youth pastors, only 12 percent of America's youth pastors have a biblical worldview.

So now more than ever, we need pastors to get back to preaching and teaching the whole counsel of the word of God. I'll tell you one thing that we can do. No, I'll tell you two things. Number one, we can continue to support TPUSA faith. Go support TPUSA faith.

They are moving the needle. And secondly, go watch 22WordsFilm.com. I've had Democrats reach out to me and say, you know what, Pastor John, I watched your documentary, and I may not agree with everything you say, but you're on target, and this year I am voting for Donald Trump. I've even had homosexuals in different counties reach out to me who told me, hey, you know what,

I may not be living the lifestyle that you preach against, but you are right. Don't stop doing what you're doing. I'm not afraid to be labeled, and I'm labeled all of the time. I went to California and spoke at a school board meeting there, and they labeled me as a white supremacist, you know, and it's because I disagree with the woke left. You know what? Give me the hood. Give me the hat. Give me everything. I'll be a white supremacist until the day I die.

because I believe biblical truth and biblical authority. And it's rather condescending to call a true African-American a white supremacist just because he has biblical and traditional American values. These people are foolish, Charlie. Reverend, thank you so much. Check out his new film, 22 Words, and come back soon. Thank you. Thank you. God bless you.

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Okay, I want to get to two things here very quickly. First, we did that voter registration event last week at Grand Canyon University. 750 new Trump voters. I want you just to experience a little taste of what's happening with Gen Z. Look at the energy, the spirit, the enthusiasm for President Trump. And this explains why Kamala Harris had to go dive very low on a podcast that's not exactly family-friendly. Play cut 38. Who are you voting for? Trump. Trump. Trump. Trump, baby. Trump. Trump. Trump. Trump.

Trump. I'm voting for Trump. I'm voting for Trump. Donald Trump. Trump. Trump. Trump. Trump. Trump. Trump. Trump. Trump. Trump. Trump. Trump. I'm voting for Trump, baby. Donald Trump. I love Trump. Trump. Trump. Trump. Trump. Trump. Trump. Trump. Donald Trump. Trump, of course. Trump. Trump. I'm definitely voting for Trump this year. Trump. Trump, baby. Come on! Trump, baby, because he's going to make America great again. Let's go!

Trump! Look at this crowd, everybody. Let's go! Gen Z for Trump. Look at this, everybody. This is what we're talking about. Kamala, a storm is coming. Kamala Harris knows that she's not hitting her benchmarks with younger voters. So they decided to deploy Kamala Harris on a media tour. So they thought to themselves, what podcast host has the most in common with Kamala Harris?

So, of course, they thought of Alex Cooper. So we don't know who Alex Cooper is. I've never really listened to any of her podcasts, but you kind of know it by reputation. She is a podcast host of a show called Call Her Daddy. Now, mind you, the show has cleaned itself up in recent years. It used to be a disgusting podcast where she would teach her audience and they would go through the audience of how to do very graphic sexual acts.

I mean, it is the lowest of the low, basically glorifying hookup culture for young women. You don't need to stay with one man. You could sleep with as many people as possible. Here's how to pleasure your man and get money out of them. Literally, that was the

The genre of her show. She just signed a hundred twenty million dollar podcast contract. Sex sells, I suppose. I'm not going to focus my energy on Alex Cooper. She's a typical just useful pawn of the regime. However, Kamala Harris, of course, is at home on the Call Her Daddy podcast. Kamala Harris is a subject matter expert.

on such issues discussed on the program. So Kamala Harris, she looked very uncomfortable despite the fact that this was, should have been a very interesting interview for her. So she sits down with Alex Cooper and has a lot in common because Kamala Harris has lived that kind of a life. And Kamala Harris detoured and was asked a question by Alex Cooper about

Who was asking about late term abortion. And just so you understand, I'm not making this up. The two episodes before Kamala Harris was this was by Heather McMahon. And this is the podcast Blowjobs, Hall Passes and Frat Daddies. That was literally the episode title of the Call Her Daddy podcast that Kamala Harris goes on.

So Kamala Harris goes on the podcast with Alex Cooper, and the one previous was blowjobs, hall passes, and frat daddies. And if you don't like hearing that, that's the type of president Kamala Harris will be. That's the type of platform that she's going on with Alex Cooper. And they try to make it really fun and good. You wonder why young ladies are going so liberal. It's because they're believing this venom of hookup culture. It's completely deranged, honestly, and it's really sick. But it's one of the most popular podcasts ever.

for young women in the world. Just so we are clear, this podcast is listened to by many of your daughters, whether you know it or not, and your granddaughters. They love Alex Cooper and they love the idea she presents. This is a White House, of course, that we know that does cocaine in the White House. Trans dudes flashing their breasts at the White House, turning Easter into the trans day of awareness. None of this should surprise you. And again, Christians, do you guys need more reason to vote? You guys look at Kamala Harris going on Call Her Daddy, talking about the most graphic, disgusting stuff imaginable. You're like, yeah, I don't need to vote.

Anyway, I want to play cut 12 here because I want to address this bitter lie on the sex show. Play cut 12. In the debate, former President Trump claimed that some states are executing babies after birth. Can you just clarify? That is not happening anywhere in the United States.

It is not happening, and it's a lie. Just, it's a bold-faced lie. Okay, Kamala, under Tim Walz's watch, at least eight babies were born alive during botched abortion, and all eight of them died. None of them received any care to save their lives.

And most of them did not even receive basic comfort care either. They were treated like garbage and throw away. We know this is true because up until 2023, Minnesota, despite not punishing the neglect of born alive infants, at least required such failed abortions to be reported. For walls, it wasn't dead babies that were a problem. It was the reporting that's a problem. And there are six...

Other states where this is similar, New Mexico, Colorado, Oregon, yes, Minnesota, Vermont, New Jersey, and the District of Columbia with no restrictions on abortion. I don't expect Alex Cooper to have the depth of understanding anything beyond blowjobs. Alex Cooper doesn't quite understand.

But you guys should know that Kamala Harris is lying. The abortion policies that she embraces make it perfectly okay for a baby to be delivered, made comfortable, and then terminated. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening, and God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

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