Nebraska: The Inside Story + The Road To 270
37:16 Share

Hey, everybody, enjoy this episode. Become a member. Members.CharlieKirk.com. That is members.CharlieKirk.com. Email us as always, freedom at CharlieKirk.com and become a member to support this program. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here.

Andrew and Blake, hello to you both. Hello, hello.

So I wanted to start today, guys. We finally are able to speak openly about a topic that we've been leading on. And I have here a handy dandy Nebraska hat. And we can talk openly about the update out of what happened in Nebraska. Now, we've been working on this, everybody, for the last...

Six months? Five months? Is that right, Blake? Yeah, it was about April, I think. And, Blake, remind people the story, how we got into this. Okay, yeah. So the full setup here was we were looking at some polls in...

Yeah, about sometime in the spring, about April. And the Biden was still in the race then. And there were some polls coming out. And it shook out that if you looked at all of those polls and the averages that were on Real Clear Politics, that if you just assumed the averages were all correct and that that was what it would be on Election Day and you plugged that into the Electoral College, the result would be Joe Biden would win 270 to 268.

He would lose Georgia. He would lose Arizona. He would lose Nevada. But he would keep Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. This was Joe Biden's strategy. And I just pointed this out. And then I threw in as an aside, you know, unless Nebraska gets its act together, Charlie. And then you were like, wait, you're right. You were familiar with that facet. Of course, yeah. And...

So you just said, you know, whip up a tweet about that, mention it and, you know, dig into it. Look at what's going on with that. And so I did a little digging. I saw that a senator in Nebraska had actually introduced a winner take all bill. But Phil Lippincott. Yep. Senator Lippincott. He'd introduced it and it was just held up in the legislature. Apparently it wasn't going to go forward. And we, you know, they were still in session then. So our initial thing was, let's whip up some pressure on the legislature. Let me interrupt you.

At the time, Rana and the RNC had no plan for this. There was no concern, not a single person anywhere.

made this a priority until the Charlie Kirk show and turning point action. Right, Blake? Yeah, and it was wild how rapid the response was on Twitter because we just laid it out that this is... The book wasn't out yet, but you talked about in the book that you need a Republican Party that wants to win, and this is an electoral vote that's there. And as we said, this wasn't...

illegal or underhanded. This wasn't some gross distortion of electoral proceedings. It was make Nebraska's rule the same as all the other, all 48 of the other 50 states and have it be winner take all. We would take this vote that was very likely to go blue and make it red and it could save us from losing in a situation that wasn't the most likely, like the dominant outcome, but it was a very real possibility.

And so this produced this huge response. And what I loved about it was how not only did we whip people up, but you were immediately like calling people saying, look, let's get, let's get a venue in Nebraska, in Omaha, get some people there. Got over 1500 people. Andrew, you were there. We created a whole war room strategy. And, and I want to be clear, Andrew, talk about that event, but also some people in the audience say, Oh, Charlie, you let this issue go. No guys, no,

That's what we're here finally able to talk openly about for the last five months on a daily basis, including multiple trips to Nebraska. We've been working on this issue. Andrew, talk about how we took this and we didn't let this go.

Well, my favorite piece of this whole story is actually the New York Times, The Daily, their podcast did a whole episode just on what this audience, what this show, what Charlie did and Turning Point did to create this and make this a national news story. They laid the timeline out from the time of the tweet to the broadcast. They actually had...

clips of Charlie on air. And next thing you know, there was a comment from Governor Pillen within hours because you guys in this audience lit up the phone boards in Nebraska. You were calling your legislators, Nebraskans were, and then Trump went

Went out on Truth, did a Truth social post about it. So within less than 24 hours, this became a national news story. And it was all because of this audience. It was all because of the work everybody was doing. And then I think to Blake's point, it was like five days, about five or six days later, we had a whole event.

Winner take all rally in Omaha and massive, massive attendance. It was standing room only. The energy was through the roof. The grassroots were pumped up and excited about this because they call this the blue dot in the middle of Nebraska. And Charlotte, one thing I would love for you to talk about and explain is

is how this blue dot invites all of this outside the state of Nebraska money to pour into Omaha. So you've got a state that would absolutely go completely for Trump, except for this one up for grabs district.

And so tons of outside money, millions and millions and millions, pours in for one electoral vote. And I think it really is a disservice to the people of Nebraska to allow that to continue. But alas, here we are. Well, we're about to get to the update. And so all throughout June, all throughout July, all throughout August, we were lobbying and we were doing vote counting. So what happened in Nebraska is they did a special session for property tax relief that went terribly. It was terrible.

It was a disaster. And we were said, we were told, okay, just wait, just wait. Now, of course, we were cynical. We said, I don't know. This seems like they're trying to run out the clock. I said, but we're not going to let you guys escape that easily. Like if you guys, you know, mess this up, we're going to tell the story publicly, which is what we're doing now. And so we started to see a lack of priority here. And let me be very clear.

This Nebraska example is the greatest example in my 12 years of doing this that I've ever found about how the Republican Party does not care about saving America. I'm sorry.

They care about other things. They care about football tickets. Very much. Like the football tickets that these senators have, these state senators have. They're unbelievable, right, Blake? They're really good. Yeah, we went into Larry the Cable Guy's booth, who's a great guy. He's great. That was great. He's a hero. He really wanted to help out, too. It was amazing. He's a hero in this story. Yeah. And there are state senators that are, they have no business being in that, I mean, unless there's some sort of deal getting cut. And so they care about that.

And so we went there a week and a half ago, right, Blake? Oh, yes. And we left it all in the field. By the way, that's where I lost my voice because I was out there doing interviews for like an hour and a half, and then Pennsylvania didn't help. And when I confronted, and we met with the governor, and I'll tell you about that, because the governor's a good actor in this story, but I think he could have done more, but that's a separate issue. And when I was talking to some of these senators and some of the people involved, they kept on saying, yeah, but it would just invite too much controversy.

I kid you not, everybody. So just to be very clear, Kamala Harris might become president because of this.

And we'll talk. We'll walk the breaking news yesterday. The swing vote, Mike McDonald, who's not the villain of the story, actually. I think he's actually covering for some of the other senators. Yeah, I think he's the guy they put all the attention on. And he I mean, the idiom he uses, he didn't want to be caught holding his you know what, like because he was a Democrat who'd become a Republican. He's from Omaha. He's from Omaha. He's from one of those involves this. So it involves this. And so

They put all the attention on him. And I think really he was willing to do it, but he wasn't going to do it if it wasn't going to happen. Correct. And so he came out and announced this because it was clear it wasn't going to happen. And you know more about that. So all the headlines are Mike McDonald's very smart. The way they did this is they have the former Dem kind of take all the arrows. OK, he wants to be mayor. It's that's not the real story here. And I'm here to tell you the real story is the real story is that they were short two votes of Republicans that are not former Democrats.

that did not want to change the system and i talked to one of them and i'm going to tell you their names and because i don't care you know and because i actually think mike mcdonald wanted to do the right thing he seemed like a nice guy met him you met him right blake he seemed like a sincere but there were a couple other people involved in nebraska that wanted nothing to do with changing this and i'll be again let me say this as clearly as i can they don't care about the future of america

When I presented with them, I showed them the map. I said, you realize Kamala could win because of this. And one of the senators told me, well, that's not my problem. I said, yeah, it is. He said, no, not my problem. Thank you. And he walked away. That is the mentality of the Republican Party across the country. And so we received this bad news yesterday. We lobbied like crazy, public awareness, behind the scenes, everything we could. And we received the disappointing news. But

I told you guys I'm going to tell you the full story, and we will, about how a couple people in Nebraska said, eh, I'll become president. No big deal.

Hey everybody, I want to tell you about PrizePix. I love this opportunity. You guys got to listen carefully. PrizePix is America's number one daily fantasy sports app with over 5 million active members. PrizePix is the easiest and most exciting way to play daily fantasy sports. Unlike other apps, on PrizePix it's just you against the numbers. All you do is pick more or less on 2-6 player stat projections and watch the winnings roll in. So, for example, Go Bears! Caleb Williams!

Yeah.

is the best way to get in on the action on sports in most states, including California, Texas, and Georgia. PrizePix is the only real-money daily fantasy platform with an injury insurance policy so your lineups stay in play even if one of your players gets injured. If your player leaves in the first half and doesn't return, PrizePix, your picks are still alive. I love PrizePix. I am entering and picking Caleb Williams and the Bears. Also, Tua Tagovailoa.

One of the greatest names in all of NFL football. I am picking him. Love what I'm seeing with him. Also, I think he can do a lot more than what they are saying there. The opportunity is really great. The research also I'm doing with Josh Allen, the Bills. Tyree Kill, Dak Prescott. You know CeeDee Lamb? For more than 96 receiving yards, that's easy, easy, easy. Download the PrizePix app today and use promo code KIRK.

and get $50 instantly when you play $5. That's promo code Kirk on PrizePix and get $50 instantly when you play $5. You don't even need to win to receive the $50 bonus. It's guaranteed. PrizePix, run your game. Andrew, why is it that Republicans, I want you to psychoanalyze this, and then Blake, I want your thoughts. Why was this so hard? Why did we as an outside group and a radio show, Andrew, have to make multiple visits to Nebraska?

have to spend some time, money, and thank you all of you that donate to Turning Point. You guys make projects like this possible, and I don't regret any of this. Do you, Blake? I don't regret getting involved. No, of course not. Because, I mean, we had a chance to get an electoral vote in a deep red state, and we got mighty close. It would have been huge bragging rights if we'd pulled it off. Yeah, again, but we didn't do it because of that. But Andrew, what's going on here? Why was this so hard? Why would Republicans in Nebraska feel so indifferent to Kamala Harris becoming president?

What's going on? Well, I think you summed it up when you said, you know, with that one anecdote where he said, oh, it's controversial. We don't want the controversy. But it's – there's something about the, I think –

A couple of things. I think the press and the media has so beat up your run of the mill average Republican. They've called them racist. They've called them xenophobic. They've called them bigoted. They've called them hateful for so long that they don't want to be seen as guilty of any of those things. So they stay out of politics.

anything, the line of fire, whenever the fight gets tough, you know, you call them sunshine, sunshine patriots, right? All they want to talk about is tax codes and all the stuff that wouldn't get them embroiled in any sort of controversy because they have been trained like a beat dog to avoid that stuff. And what we have done, I think a turning point that is so instrumental in what you, Charlie, deserve a ton of credit for actually is

and there's other voices like Tucker and some of these other voices that have gone into the firing line as opposed to running away from it, is we are trying to reform the conservative movement to not be afraid of the fight. And we've tried to create an army of voices that will support and defend people that are doing the right thing. But I think when you go out

into the middle of the country and you go to some of these long-held conservative areas, these red pockets of the country, they are just not used to it. They're muscles of atrophied and they just want to go to the football games. They just want to be in polite society. They don't want to be castigated or spoken down to or spoken negatively of.

Their reputation, their local prestige is what they do this for, and they don't want to put that in jeopardy. So they're just not ready for a real fight, sadly, too many of them. So I brought Blake with me, and we worked the Nebraska football game, which, by the way—

Our plan was actually really smart, which is the Nebraska football games like the Met Gala. Yeah. Of Nebraska. Yeah, exactly. So if you want to lobby for something, you go to the Nebraska football game. Exactly. And it makes you wonder like how many things in Nebraska's history or, you know, state history generally are decided. A hundred percent. At these, you know, backroom negotiations at football games. And so our hypothesis was brilliant. I have to give credit because I was like, how do I get a captive audience with these senators so I could, you know, make my case? And I was like, yeah.

They're hosting a football game. So we flew in and met with the governor. The governor was in support, but the governor was very damaged because of this property tax session. Yeah. The governor is not the villain of the story by any means. The governor wanted to do the right thing. I think the governor could have done more and prioritized it. I think what we both agree on is a lot of people, like the governor, he only wanted to call the special session if it would be a win.

And if you had all the votes there and that's where I disagreed with our sense was if you call it, then you're making it very clear who the holdouts are. The pressure is on them. And that is likely to get you over the hump. But you have to you have to take the risk that it might not work. Right. And the strategy we were pitching is call the session, turn this into a national issue and make them in front of millions of people vote yes or no. Don't do this behind the scenes.

We were unsuccessful with that pitch. So we were working the football game there. Blake, can you psychoanalyze the Nebraska –

political women. You're from South Dakota, so you kind of get this, right? A little bit, a little bit. I think a key thing with Nebraska, first of all, is it's not a state, I guess, where they're super used to getting a lot done. They have a strong filibuster. They have, you need basically 33 votes to do anything and they can filibuster pretty much like they can at the federal level. Now, imagine if you could filibuster in the U.S. Senate up to 66 votes and that's kind of what they have going on in Nebraska. Yeah.

And so I think they're not very used to doing aggressive stuff to ram things through. They've had this filibuster a very long time. Another thing is in states like Nebraska, where the Republican Party has been dominant a very long time, I think it actually means you get a different sort of person because people who just sort of want to go into politics because they like politics.

being in power they like having the status of it they end up being republicans as opposed to at the national level where they're democrats so you kind of get certain types of people who maybe aren't that dispositionally conservative about it there's a lot of factors that go into it and i think a lot of them just didn't get it either they didn't get the stakes

You didn't vote for this recession or inflation, but you sure as heck have to pay for it at the pump, at the grocery store, and with that growing stack of unpaid bills. I know your financial stress is crushing you. The solution is donewithdebt.com. Unlike others, Done With Debt created new aggressive strategies designed to get you out of debt permanently without bankruptcy or loans. Done With Debt stands between you and bill collectors. They negotiate with your creditors to write off balances, cut interest, and stop penalties.

They have a plan to put more money in your pocket month one and every month until your debt is gone. Let Done With Debt hit the debt reset button for you and make your money yours again. But you need to hurry because some of the debt strategies are time sensitive and you don't want to miss out. Visit donewithdebt.com or call 1-88-322-1054 right away. Chat with one of their debt relief strategists for free. Go to donewithdebt.com. That is donewithdebt.com. Let's just continue further into this. And just to be very clear, my voice issues are disguising my anger and

I would be far more animated, but getting angry does me no good right now because we need to have a voice to make sure we win the election.

Can we show the map up on screen? Do we have the map? I believe it's 50. Blake, what am I looking at here? All right. So this is the Electoral College map that got us so animated. I think I literally made it on the same website and everything. That's where you can see that's the result where we would get Georgia back, we would get Arizona back, and we would flip Nevada, but we still lose the blue wall, the old blue wall. So let's just press pause really quick. Yeah, sure. Recent polling suggests this is a probable outcome. Very, very possible.

I would say this was much more likely when Biden was still running. He was very much hang on to the blue wall for dear life. Hope it works. Blue wall plus blue dot. Yeah, blue wall plus blue dot. This is what Democrats call it. They call it the blue dot. They've talked about it. They would talk about this more than the right would when we were campaigning for this. On Pod Save America, which is like their intelligentsia. I listen to them.

They talk about the blue dot once a week. They brag about it. Just so everyone is clear, on the Pod Save America, former Obama alums, they brag every single week about how Republicans have no idea how important the blue dot from Nebraska gives Kamala Harris a chance to the presidency. This is a CNN article two weeks ago. A blue wall victory is not complete without Omaha's blue dot. And then when we started to do work on it, they started to freak out. There was an article that went very viral on the left when they realized Maine couldn't

because Maine also does this and they're controlled by Democrats. And their early thought was, oh, well, if we do it, Maine will just counter. But Maine actually could not pass a bill this late in the cycle. Nebraska can, Maine can't. So it was setting in, oh, they could actually do this.

And we could if we just had if we had 33 Republicans in the Nebraska Senate. So keep that map up on screen. One thing that a Nebraska senator told me was he said, well, the Democrats wouldn't do this to us. That's what he said. I said, well, hold on. First of all, who do you think you're dealing with? What Democrat party? He said, we as Republicans need to be above just trying to win elections. He said, we must stand on principle. This is your Republican Party, everybody.

Now, mind you, some other people say, well, hold on. The Democrats don't do it to Maine to go winner take all. I said, that's because look, look at this map. If the map would have showed that Donald Trump receives the beneficiary of a tiebreaker, they would have moved. Right, Blake? Yeah. It's not the same. It's not basically a quirk of the Electoral College map that we're a lot more likely to benefit from this stray electoral vote. Mm hmm.

But hold on, Charlie, I just I can't help but interject here that we the Democrats wouldn't do this test. Are they are they talking about the same Democrat Party that indicted President Trump four times that sent grandmas from January 6 into federal prison?

Are they talking about the same Democrat Party that is literally flooding the nation's interior with thousands and thousands of Haitians and other immigrants in Trende or Paraguay, like gang members from Venezuela? Are they talking about the same party

Democrat Party that you and I have witnessed its ruthlessness, that want to pack the Supreme Court, that want to get rid of the filibuster to pass endless abortion laws. Who are they talking about? And how do you not pay attention to the news over the last eight, nine years and not realize that this is a ruthless, cunning,

that we are dealing with that is so Machiavellian that the ends completely justify any means. Meanwhile, you are inviting tens of millions of foreign dollars, outside state dollars to flood your local airwaves every year to skew an electoral vote. I mean, it's shocking. And I think I share our audience's frustration when you say things like,

Like like that. It's it's almost too much to hear. Yeah, it's crazy while Andrew was talking there So we have a bunch of TVs that you just can't see but it's different channels and NBC Was on an NBC News had a thing on the Cornhusker campaign and I don't know what they were saying We can't hear it, but they're likely celebrating. Yeah, they were paying attention to this This just to be clear if if that we would have been able to pull this off which we did everything we could and

This would have made Kamala Harris's chances of the presidency less than 20%. But again, Nebraska Republicans, they're cool with Kamala being president. I'm sorry. It's just the way it is. And it's such a – this is another sad thing. I think very truthfully a pattern we noticed was just a lot of them would not – like they weren't aware of how important this would be. And this is just such a critical information failure that –

I feel like a basic thing, if you are a state level or above political actor in the United States, is you should know, you know, seventh grade civics. You should know how we elect the president and how many electoral votes you need and how it works. And you should look at that and think,

What we ran into repeatedly is then like raising an eyebrow and going like, oh, I didn't know it could matter that much. And we've even run into that sometimes like at the national level, not to name names, but like, you know, we'll ask people like, what's the, you know, what do you see as the math for the election? And they, it's like they aren't aware that you need 270 electoral votes to win. I will say I've dealt with a lot of people throughout the years that don't know the path to victory that work on campaigns.

Also, there are people who are like, we're going to win California, which I would love that to happen. So I just want to emphasize this. So the the Democrats are cutthroat. And this the reason I'm spending so much time on this is obviously we've been very passionate about this. But the somebody messaged us. They said, well, you know, wait for 5000, you know, Haitians to come to Lincoln. Hilariously, they already are.

Andrew, you'd get a kick out of this. I don't know, a kick out of it. I talked to a woman who was very helpful, and she'll remain anonymous, in trying to get this thing moving. And she's a political operative in Nebraska. And she says, Charlie, I fly commonly, frequently from Chicago to Lincoln on the commercial flight there. And when I board the plane now, almost half of all the seats are

are now taken up of people with their name badges, plastic bags, and they said Haitians, Nicaraguans, El Salvadorians are being transported daily, hundreds of them,

from chicago to lincoln and moved to the interior of the united states people really do not get how deranged it is like again cutthroat party democrats did the math oh it's really bad it's a bad look for us to have you know 10 000 people blobbed at a border crossing point in mexico and so their fix wasn't secure the border their fix was you can download an app onto your smartphone which all of these desperate asylum seekers who are like totally impoverished have smartphones

And you can download this app onto your smartphone, and then you go and apply. And it's literally like the illegal immigrant app. Illegaler? I don't know. It's like Tinder, but for illegals. And it's like you send an app. It's like, I'm...

I'm totally going to go to the border and cross illegally. I'm going to do it. And the government's like, oh, we don't want you to do that here. Just fill out this app and then you can fly in and we'll just send you directly there. And then, you know, put you on and then we'll give you they call it parole. They said they have a program. They put you on parole while your asylum case is heard. And it's this elaborate legal song and dance for what is de facto illegal.

any person from Haiti, any person from Venezuela, any person from Nicaragua can just come to America and go wherever. And yes, MSNBC is showing it again. They're, uh,

They're gloating about... Kamala's got her blue dot. She's going to hang on. Yeah, right there. I mean, at MSNBC, they're taking a victory lap right now. Nebraska lawmaker opposes changes to how electoral votes are rewarded. But we should emphasize that again. It's not the specific one everyone's naming. It was not Mike McDonald. So one of my conversations was with this guy, Senator Tom Brandt. And apparently he said that he was changing his mind because Lindsey Graham came in. Again, when Lindsey Graham came in, I said, okay, that's it. We're going to screw this thing up. I mean...

I was cheering for him. I said, but come on. I mean, this guy has not been in charge of anything successful his entire career. We're sending him in to negotiate. This is great. We're going to end up with a war. And so we sent him in. Again, it's pathetic. We're going to bomb Scott's bluff. I know. All of a sudden, he's going to have a press conference. We're going to mobilize the 101st Infantry.

And, you know, annex the football stadium or something. I don't know. It's bizarre. And so this guy, Senator Tom Brandt, I had the conversation with him. I don't want to talk about all the private details, but his essence was like too late in the game, too controversial, and I don't want to deal with the controversy.

Now, to be clear and fair, apparently he said his mind was changing because of Senator Lindsey Graham. I don't know. I don't believe any of these guys, to be perfectly clear. I don't believe any of them. Here's the thing. It should not have to require us as out-of-staters to go to Nebraska to explain this. What are these people doing all day long? And here's the thing. Their neighborhood— How is the weirdest—like, people thought we were with the Trump campaign? No, I know. People kept on— No, we're just— They were like, well, you know— Concerned citizens.

Again, they were like, you know, who are you? And I said, okay, hi, my name is Charlie Kirk. You know, I'm a passionate American. That's how I introduced myself. And they said, oh, you know, you work for the Trump campaign. Okay, sure, I don't. But they're like, well, why are you here? I'm here because I do math and you're about to give Kamala Harris the presidency.

And they said, well, that was never the case in other elections. I said, I know. The way that the census math has happened this time, again, you have to talk to them like the third graders. No one ever briefed half the senators on the math on how this was the tiebreaker. You just imagine people in like Massachusetts during the Revolutionary War. Washington, you're from Virginia. Why are you here?

Yes, it just so happens that this blue dot will determine the entire country potentially. Again, I don't want to get you guys depressed. There's plenty of paths for Donald Trump. But the other reason I'm doing this segment is this, is that on election night, if the blue dot ends up giving Kamala the presidency, you know exactly who to blame.

And it was our show and you guys tried everything you possibly could, right? Yeah, I mean, and I want to make sure people are understanding it would, what we're saying would end up in a 270, 268 Kamala win. If the blue dot became winner take all and Nebraska allotted all of its electoral votes to the statewide winner, it'd be 269, 269. Then it goes to the House of Representatives, which then get a vote based on state legislatures. And since Republicans

control more state legislatures, presumably Donald Trump would win. So that's how critical this blue dot is. And for the sake that these grown men and women don't get it is shocking and really a tragedy. That is the state of the modern Republican Party, everybody. It is. It really is remarkable how much of the energy source, Blake, you'll appreciate this, is in like conservative media. Is that like how much of the

Zeitgeist is formed on shows like this. Yeah, it really is. It's an important responsibility. We have to get people rallied and send them in the right direction. And informed. Yes. Hold off on purchasing your first order from Balance of Nature because I have some info you need to hear. If you go to balanceofnature.com to buy their popular fruit and veggie supplements, a discount offer will pop up. It may say 20 or 25% off your first order. Don't click on that because if you use my code, you'll get...

35% off your first order, plus free shipping. My special code is Charlie. Use my code and save big. Here's another bonus. Balance of Nature has a risk-free money-back guarantee. So go ahead and find out for yourself what I already know. There's no other product out there like Balance of Nature when it comes to fruit and veggie supplements.

Whether you order online or call them direct, you must use the promo code Charlie to get this special offer of 35% off and free shipping. Call them at 800-2468-751 and use discount code Charlie or online at balanceandnature.com. Use discount code Charlie to get 35% off.

Andrew, can you just mention from your perspective how successful our campus tours are being right now? Oh, yeah. I mean, people have no idea. Every reporter that I've spoken with and showed them the videos and sent the links to the tweets and things like that, they're blown away. And I've been doing this with you long enough, Charlie.

And I've said this on the show in your absence that, you know, a couple of years ago, we were lucky if we got six or seven people that came out and then there would be like two dozen protesters or more. And now there are literally thousands of students

waiting for Charlie, waiting for the team when they arrive. Everybody's chanting, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie, Trump, Trump, Trump. And the energy is through the roof. Charlie's throwing out red hats. And so by the, you know, within like 30 minutes, it's a sea of red hats, basically filling up quads, filling up plazas.

And the energy is absolutely insane. And by the way, Charlie, massive kudos to you and the team at Turning Point Action that is partnering on this tour and is registering voters. And by the way, Charlie, this goes back to the spring semester as well. Remember San Luis Obispo? There was 100 people.

hundreds and hundreds, maybe like 700 students in California, coastal California, that started singing the Star Spangled Banner. This semester, we've only taken that energy and amplified it even more. And it's a sea of support. I couldn't help but get a chuckle out of Penn State where, you know, we were getting pictures from security before you arrived. And there was like 12 really like kind of

slovenly looking protesters all wearing masks and purple hair and there was like four reporters talking to the to the 12 protesters meanwhile if you pivot the camera over there's literally 2 000 students waiting to like cheer you on as you come in and uh and so of course they were talking to them and and the headlines were skewed and all the stuff but like

The registration in the two Pennsylvania stops alone, this is just one day or two days, really two stops was over 700 Gen Z students registered. And I think at Penn, we had 1500 students, Penn State, we had 1500 students sign up for Turning Point USA. And I think it was like 700 at University of Pittsburgh. So massively, massively successful. And what this goes to is things like TikTok, YouTube,

The message is getting out, folks. This is civilizationally defining, changing stuff that's happening under the radar, and nobody knows about it. The press has not figured it out yet. But when they see our numbers someday, they're going to realize what happened. I agree. Speaking of numbers, Blake, do you want to walk through the final, Matt? So now because of the Nebraska news. Mm-hmm.

And again, this is it. We're done talking about Nebraska after this. And the senators that are in question, by the way, again, I can only speak to my conversations. I did not speak to Senator Hughes, but she was a no. Senator Brandt was a no-ish. And then, of course, McDonnell. McDonnell is his own beast. It's its own thing. My theory is I think McDonnell's covering for the other two. Would you agree, Blake? That's certainly how he spoke to us. So those are the names, okay? And you guys can fill in the gaps wherever you want there and do what you want to do.

I'm going to stop focusing on Nebraska. You guys can worry about that crooked, corrupt state because we got an election. If we bring it up again, it's going to be because something we worried about happened. And again, so we are dropping the marker right now. We're saying that the Rana RNC couldn't have cared less about this, that none of the people in Nebraska did any sort of math or foresight. We tried to come in. We tried to fix it. We spent a lot of money, a lot of time, a lot of energy, a lot of emphasis for months trying

We were let down. You guys know the story. You've been asking about that for quite some time. So therefore what, Blake? The good news is this is less likely to matter than it was when Biden was running. This was very likely to be a very crucial thing when Biden was running because he was all in on the Rust Belt. Kamala, the math is a little different. Kamala, compared to Biden, is proportionally less strong in the old Rust Belt and stronger in the Sun Belt.

So she's looking – polls show her quite shaky in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania is definitely more winnable than Michigan and Wisconsin. It's looking increasingly like we've had good stuff. You have Senator Fetterman going around saying, like, Trump has very special appeal here. Internal polls, even from Democrats, are suggesting that's bad news. So –

What we also have to think about is what we discussed yesterday on this show, which is North Carolina has become a much shakier state for us. Latest poll shows Mark Robinson down 14 points, which means Trump might lose North Carolina. Exactly. Now, so here's a map that we might see. For example, if we win Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, flip all those states back, lose Nevada and lose North Carolina.

We lose the election, barely, but we do lose it. We lose it. It would be 265 to 273. If we win Nevada, if we were to flip Pennsylvania back, flip Georgia back, flip Arizona back, but they flip North Carolina, we lose. If we flip Nevada as well, which polling's been all over the place there, but it has been pretty promising, then we do win in that case, 271 to 267.

In other case, if we hold on to North Carolina, our path is a lot easier in that case.

If you hold North Carolina, you just need Pennsylvania, Georgia. We win. If you... Well, here's another goofy. You can win Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia. You win. Yeah, you can go Pennsylvania, Arizona. You can go Nevada, Arizona, Pennsylvania, lose Georgia. If you win North Carolina, you still hold it. So there's a lot of situations that get us to right around this like 271 spot. But there is not a single path, listen, without Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. You need one of those.

Right. There is no longer a path. That's what Nebraska was. It's over. It's done. There is not a path for Donald Trump to win if he doesn't win at least one of the three blue wall states. With that, we retire our Nebraska emphasis. Wish they loved the country more. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

The best picture of the year.

I had to find the truth. Conclave. Rated PG. Parental guidance suggested. Now playing only in theaters.