JD Vance's Debate Triumph
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I have my co-pilot, Mr. Blake, with us. Blake, how we doing? We're doing great, Charlie. We were up late last night. Very late. Well past, well, you were up, I think, till like 3 Eastern. Oh, yeah, I was deranged. It was bad. Editing the podcast, and we were up streaming. Okay, hold on. I should not use stolen valor here. I agreed to split it with Daisy. I was so gassed. I went home. I sat on my couch, and I was just out, and then I woke up.

at 2 a.m. and then I looked at my phone and Daisy had to edit the episode herself. So I need to be public about that. I do not want to. So it wasn't like a Tim Walls stolen valor. Yeah, yeah. No Tim Walls in this show. Or Kamala Harris working at McDonald's. Exactly. We were streaming till 1 Eastern-ish last night.

It was a long day. It was a long day. And we have a long day today, by the way. Right when we're done today, I'm going to Grand Canyon University for a major voter registration event. We're pre-taping some stuff. And tonight we have Dr. Ben Carson for a major event here in Phoenix. We're doing everything we can to win this election. But first, of course, the major news. Yesterday was a day of vindication.

for me, if I may say so. That was a big Charlie Kirk W. Day. It was great. I got to say, that was the day of whether or not I'm going to be further blamed for something that's actually not my fault, which, of course, is, you know, people love pointing fingers at Charlie. You know, it's like acting as if I have more power than I really do. But it's kind of a running joke around here. Did you know, Charlie, the GOP won every election until you came along? No, that's right. Exactly. All the problems wrapped into one, but none of the credit.

If something goes right, it's never my credit. So the Veep stakes were unfolding. I've known J.D. for a while. We were one of the first organizations to endorse J.D. Vance for the Senate primary in Ohio very early. Very early, as Tyler told us. Remember that? Super early. By accident, really early. In fact, it was so much so that I personally endorsed him, and we had an endorsement ready to go for J.D. Vance, and we sent out the endorsement graphic like two months early.

So we made a lot of friends with that one. J.D. Vance, at the time, was polling at 2% in the Ohio Senate primary, ran a great race, got Trump's endorsement, which obviously was the main reason he won the primary. He ascended, won the U.S. Senate election against a good candidate, Tim Ryan, and was a great senator, very loyal to President Trump. And remember the moment where J.D. Vance and Donald Trump combined forces as they both needed each other in a unique moment, which was East Palestine.

Donald Trump's campaign was objectively not going well up until East Palestine. His heart wasn't really in it at first. Yeah, it was just – it wasn't the Trump that we love. And it wasn't the – it was like, hey, do you want to do this was kind of what some people were saying. And East Palestine got him back into fighting shape. He was talking to people face-to-face. They were pleading for his help. And I think President Trump got his why back. He's like, I'm fighting for these people. Like, that's why I'm running for president. Let's do this thing. And I think he went to, like, McDonald's afterwards or something. Yeah.

Probably. He's been there more than Kamala has. But J.D. Vance was kind of the host, if you will, of Donald Trump's visit to East Palestine, Ohio. Can you find a date? I think East Palestine was like February 2023, if I'm not mistaken. It was early. January, February 2023. It was early in the year. And it was a major news story completely ignored by Joe Biden and Pete Buttigieg. And J.D. Vance, what was the date? So the train derailed February 3rd. He was there the 22nd. Perfect. Great. So it's 2023.

Yes. Okay, great. So that really was the reset of the Trump campaign, and there was no looking back from that point forward. And so Donald Trump spent the whole day with J.D. Vance, and he was remarking to his team, I like that guy. He's smart. He doesn't interrupt me. He listens to me, which is a big deal. Don't interrupt Trump. And he's like, he gives great advice. And so they really grew together, and J.D. Vance became one of Donald Trump's fiercest supporters in the U.S. Senate on cable television.

And news networks and all this, you know, I wasn't thinking at first J.D. Vance was even in the possibility of being considered for a serious vice presidential contender. And then fast forward to 2024, all of a sudden, you know, I was hanging out with President Trump and his team. And, you know, people were like, you know, what do you think about J.D.? I'm like, I love J.D. Is he being considered? They're like.

The president likes him. He's seriously on a list of like, you know, 10 other people. And it kind of that list got kind of whittled down and whittled down and whittled down to about five people. And I remember I was like, I'm going to go all in. I know J.D. He's legit. He's a patriot. He sees the world the right way. He's super articulate. He's a good man. He's a loyal father. He's an incredible husband. And I said, let's just try to do whatever we can to make J.D. Vance.

the VP and you saw it kind of all happen. It was a very impressive thing and I just want to add the way J.D. is like a great hard worker in a lot of ways. I remember he spoke at the People's Convention in Detroit and you tell this story. Yeah, this is a great story. So this is three weeks before he gets selected as the Vice President.

And so I'm like, yo, JD, you got to come to our event in Detroit. A lot of cameras will be there. And he's like, man, it's my anniversary weekend. He's like, but I'll do it. I totally get it. He's like, let me see what I can do. So JD's like, hey, can I close out your conference on Sunday? Because my anniversary is on Saturday. I got to be with my wife for my anniversary. I totally get it. And so JD shows up at the event and just kind of like shows in at like our random like check-in table. Yeah.

Like he just like shows up at like the mezzanine areas if you're like buying a ticket. And he's like, hello, I'm Senator Vance. I'm here to speak. Like it introduces himself. He drove himself there, correct? That's what I'm getting at. And so then our team is like, well, where's your team, your entourage? He's like, I gave my team the weekend off. J.D. Vance, this is a true story. J.D. Vance drove himself on a Sunday morning from Columbus, Ohio to Detroit and back by himself, no staff, no one with him. Literally just as like a regular dude showing up at a conference on a Sunday.

and took pictures of everybody, hung out with everybody. Literally, our team was blowing me up. They're like, this is the best speaker we've ever had. Super easy. And literally, our team... Understand, there's people that are running for dog catcher in Eastern Tennessee that show up at Turning Point events with a nine-person entourage.

Okay. And this is a guy who is a legit finalist for the vice president. At that time, he was in the final three. It was Rubio, Burgum, J.D. Vance, and maybe Tim Scott, final four. And there's no one like doing social media stuff. There's no one like, okay, well, J.D. is going to enter this way. No like advance. This guy's a U.S. senator of a major state of Ohio, the bordering state. And he just shows up by himself. By the way, that shows to me tons of self-confidence.

If you can show up with and, you know, just like totally by yourself, you know, you kind of navigate yourself. And so anyway, so he gives a great speech, drives himself back. It was it was just it was remarkable. And so the process unfolds. And just remember, and then we'll get into the debate. But I just want to also thank you guys, the audience, you guys, the audience made a huge difference in this.

remember I was soliciting do you guys want JD or not do you want Marco Rubio Doug Burgum you want Nikki Haley I would show the president what you guys were thinking in real life Nikki Haley would you have done it if they I love Nikki Haley Charlie no but I would have I would have scolded all of you like no but

You guys that were always communicating and taking our polls and emailing me freedom at charliekirk.com, I would literally show the president and I would text the team. I'd be like, hey, this is what our audience wants. This is what our millions of people want. This is the vibe of the base. So you guys played a role in all of this.

this and you know jd vance gets selected remember to 48 hours after trump gets shot jd vance became the vp wild week we were there in milwaukee one of the craziest weeks ever for me very satisfying but the weeks that followed is the establishment and the media were going after jd super hard cat lady stuff all this misrepresentation and jd vance you know climbed out of that did really well but still there was kind of this question amongst smug dc circles and

was J.D. really the right pick? Like, can he hold his own? Last night was a triumph and a vindication. Even never-Trumpers like Meghan McCain were like, okay, this is legit. In fact, debate...

graders were saying this was the most impressive vice presidential debate performance that they have seen in the modern era. It was, and I'll go through all the elements of why it was good and what it means politically. But just for me personally, for those of us, and for those of you that pushed for JD Vance, you should feel really good about yourself.

Because this was far better than Mike Pence ever did in a debate. This was far better than Paul Ryan ever did in a debate. And I think it actually will make a difference in the election because this election right now is tied everywhere. As Nate Silver says, it's the closest election ever. And it will help bring soft, moderate Republicans home. This also, the final thing I'll say, is President Trump

deserves the credit for trusting his gut and his instinct. All of the warmongers and the neoconservatives and multiple billionaires were doing a lobbying effort against Trump saying, do not pick J.D. Vance. Do not pick J.D. Vance. Do not pick J.D. Vance. And J.D. Vance defied the, I'm sorry, Donald Trump defied them all. And he made a decision. Listen to the base. Listen to the American people. Listen to the grassroots.

And I got to be honest, the Trump team and the Trump movement, we are blessed to have J.D. Vance. And last night, that was on full display. We will play the tape. We'll go through it in methodical detail. But it's a great night. And honestly, this feels even better than the June debate because we are now voting right now. Voting is happening right now. This is when points can actually go on the board.

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Donald Trump still has a fair amount of people that would self-identify as Republicans. They do not like Kamala Harris. They do not like Democrats. But they still are, let's just say, recalcitrant. Is that a good word to use? That's a good word. To vote for Trump. And they need that, hey, come on home. Come on home, guys. It's all in good hands. It's all in good hands. Let's come on home. And because of that...

J.D. Vance needs to talk to the center right person who would, in a heartbeat, vote for a Romney. Heartbeat would vote for a Paul Ryan, would vote for that kind of a candidate. But Trump, either from personality or tone, or they're just very persuaded by mass media and television advertisements, they're like, man, I'm not there yet. Polling shows that's not an insignificant portion of the electorate, right, Blake? There's just a lot of people like that, and they've been around a long time. And...

They don't change their habits, unfortunately, but they're certainly a lot better than the people we're running against. And these are people that want to see a more civil tone? They want to see a kind of get-along type vibe? I agree with them for the most part. I think civil politics are good. I understand why they dislike that about Trump. I think Trump was sort of necessary as like a blunt object because—

And being really polite is not getting the point across of what's going on in this country. But I understand, you know, in the abstract, yes, it is better to have civil political tone. And especially we the you have both now. Yeah. So the point is that Trump is still Trump. And now you have this extra wrinkle and layer that gives people that say, man, I'm just not there yet on Trump.

a justification to then vote for J.D. Vance. And these people are not libs. Last night was not about winning over liberals. It was about winning over center-right independents and registered Republicans. Now, remember this, everybody. If you are watching a VP debate, you are a high-propensity voter.

OK, last night was not somebody that's like a very few people like first time voters that are like watching this and trying to make up their mind. These are people that do vote. They plan to vote. They tend to be higher income, more stable communities, and they tend to be just like regular TV watchers. You know, the type suburban America. This is not your type of guy that is working a, you know, a seven to seven police gig.

Coming home and would usually watch Thursday Night Football and he's like, I'm going to go watch the VP debate for 30 minutes. Unlikely, that kind of profile. The muscular class was not well represented in the VP viewing debate. Who was, was higher income earner, laptop guy.

Class people that work on their laptops like us, right? People that went to Dartmouth like Blake people who unhealthily committed to following us politics, correct? But that's an important that's still a micro community, especially in states like Arizona a lot of voters like that very college educated very high IQ and they want to see that kind of nuance and

I want to go to what I believe was J.D. Vance's best moment. J.D. Vance was confident enough and stoic enough to be able to politely and precisely and powerfully stand up for himself against the three women. It was the two moderators and Tim Walls. And be able to...

Correct the record on the CBP one app. And I hope you all understand this is that border crossings are not the only way that they are now transporting illegals into the country. They are flying in foreigners via an Expedia Travelocity type app where you can now go to the the application and

If you are a foreigner and a Haitian and get your entrance into the country approved expediently, very, very quickly, there literally is an app for that. The way J.D. Vance did not give up, did not give in, leaned in, this was, I think, his best moment of a spectacular night on an issue that we went on. The moderators are a bunch of buffoons. They should be ashamed of themselves. Play cut 96.

Thank you, Senator. We have so much to get to. Margaret, I think it's important because the rules were that you guys weren't going to fact check. And since you're fact checking me, I think it's important to say what's actually going on. So there's an application called the CBP one app where you can go on as an illegal migrant, apply for asylum or apply for parole and be granted legal status at

the wave of a Kamala Harris open border wand. That is not a person coming in, applying for a green card and waiting for 10 years. That is the facilitation of illegal immigration, Margaret, by our own leadership. Thank you, Senator, for describing the legal process. We have so much to get to, Senator.

The CBS's response was so snarky and so like white lib woman. Thank you, Senator, for explaining. We have a lot to cover tonight. It's so toxic femininity in a perfect picture. Like you're talking too long. Excuse me. And J.D. Vance being the alpha like, no, I'm going to explain this. I'm running for the vice presidency. Sit down. I thought it was done so well. Email us your thoughts. How do you think J.D. Vance did? Freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com.

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I will say last night, Blake, it was actually one of the deeper debates that we've seen in the modern era. It really was. Like, it's a little sad, but I feel like the debates generally are a bit better than the major ones. I think...

I think maybe they're one, a lot of Veeps, more so the nominees, I think are picked for kind of being likable people, you know, very genial. They don't necessarily have a very strong brand. And that is conducive to, you know, good substantive debate. Their job is don't screw it up. Don't alienate people. And so I think we saw that. You saw both candidates were giving more concessions to each other. They were...

It was less combative, and that means you have more room to talk about actual policy stuff, although the best policy moment was still when J.D. had to mansplain about, you know, the phone app you can get to break into America. I want to get to that tape, but my favorite part of the entire night from a substance standpoint is when J.D. Vance read the room in the electorate, Tim Walz was really confused.

and was not really sure what was going on, where J.D. Vance said, no, the expert class, the ruling class, the oligarchy has gotten a lot wrong. Let's think about it. They said that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation. They said that it was okay to mask your child

They said that sending all of our manufacturing abroad would make the middle class thrive. That's the example J.D. used, which was great. But...

Tim Walz was almost mockingly saying, well, let me get a list here. Are you trying to say you don't trust the military and don't trust the FBI and don't trust the CDC? It's like, yeah, Tim Walz, actually, we don't trust these institutions because they've prioritized diversity, equity, inclusion, not merit. They are no longer in the pursuit of excellence and in the best for the country.

We are no longer a nation where our institutions are ones that are best and brightest are filling it. Instead, the institutions we do trust are the private sector ones like SpaceX and Tesla that actually do things and make stuff. At least temporarily are able to get away with hiring on merit. And your administration takes aim at them for that reason. And this was the greatest line. And I stood up and I applauded.

I say this all the time on college campuses, and this was part of kind of one of the things I texted JD about. I texted him this 2,000-word essay. I was like, here's all my thoughts about the debate. One of the things I said is don't be afraid to reject the consensus of the ruling class because what's happening in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania is everyday voters –

They have wisdom and common sense, but they might not have PhDs. And that is the divide. You see, the Democrat Party, they are the defenders of the credentialed oligarchy. The Democrat Party believes if you have a credential from Harvard, you're inherently more qualified to make decisions. So, for example, Anthony Fauci must know what's best for your life because he's been in medicine for 40 years. Like, actually, no, we have practical judgment, prudence, and wisdom. You just have a certificate.

This was J.D. Vance's best moment that really was edifying and was extremely telling about the divide. If you trust the government, if you trust the FBI, and if you trust the CDC, and if you trust Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Johnson & Johnson, Moderna, vote for Tim Walz and Kamala Harris. But if you trust citizens, vote for Trump. Play cut 130.

If Kamala Harris has such great plans for how to address middle class problems, then she ought to do them now. Not when asking for a promotion, but in the job the American people gave her three and a half years ago. And the fact that she isn't tells you a lot about how much you can trust her actual plans.

Now, Donald Trump's economic plan is not just a plan, but it's also a record. A lot of those same economists attack Donald Trump's plans and they have PhDs, but they don't have common sense and they don't have wisdom because Donald Trump's economic policies to deliver to the highest take home pay in a generation in this country, 1.5 percent inflation and to boot peace and security all over the world.

They have PhDs, but they don't have wisdom. I love that. And by the way, you want to win over the muscular class in Ohio and win over the muscular class in Pennsylvania? That is exactly how. And understand that the example he kept on repeating was the deindustrialization of the heartland of the country was one of the great public policy failures of the modern era. Tim Walz

Couldn't have it both ways. Tim Walsh said, well, I think it was a mistake to de-industrialize the heartland. Well, which is it then? Is it that we should trust McKinsey and Deloitte and the managerial class that basically came in with a bunch of central planning pride and said, oh, we're going to move these factories to Wuhan. Everything will be great. Blake, J.D. Vance was on the side of voters on this issue. Yeah, it's just...

We're getting back to what originally caused Trump to take off so much. And it was that he had that brash developer ability to just point at something that's obviously insane. And they only maintain the facade that it's not insane by this subversive,

suffocating unanimity among the expert class that it's great. Oh, yeah, like the border is great. The border is secure. Actually, Trump's border was the worst border ever. No, that's just obviously not true. You can see that by going outside. Oh, the lockdowns were a great idea. No, that's obviously insane. Anyone can look at a school and tell that educating kids by Zoom was a terrible idea. And it's really good to show...

Vance is showing there was really great because it shows how that Trump brashness, that Trump directness, that Trump ability to call out BS is migrating out into the rest of the right wing political sphere, which is that transition we need to make in order to have a post Trump mega political movement.

Let's play more tape here. I think that's really smart, and I totally agree. The back and forth was remarkable, and I want to make sure I hit this one part here because it was lesser reported. Actually, this comes very personal to me as a Christian. As I frequently quote Scripture as a moral backbone—

of how I think society should run and how I think we should derive a morality from. And so here it's really telling. So liberals and Democrats or even Republicans are allowed to quote scripture as long as it's for open borders and secular worldview and mutilating kids. Fine. Scripture is permissible in the justification of left wing politics.

But if I were to quote scripture about that God created man and woman... Christian nationalist, Charlie Kirk. It's Christian nationalism, exactly. Play cut 127. By the way, this is a misquoting and a misapplication of...

Tim Walls trying to win over evangelical voters. Play cut 127. I don't talk about my faith a lot, but Matthew 2540 talks about to the least amongst us, you do unto me. I think that's true of most Americans. They simply want order to it. This bill does it. It's funded. It's supported by the people who do it. And it lets us keep our dignity about how we treat other people.

Okay. The way that should have been responded is, great, Tim, so what about the 320,000 missing kids from the southern border, many of whom are now sex slaves? How is an open border helping them? Okay. So what's so telling, though, is that the...

The MSNBC panel loved the fact that Tim Walz used Scripture because it derived morality. This was so fascinating to me. So if Donald Trump or Charlie Kirk or J.D. Vance were to use Scripture to justify any of our public policy positions, MSNBC would lose its fit. They'd have Tim Alberta on there saying that you guys are rising as fascism and Christian nationalists and you're the worst thing ever. But if Tim Walz uses Scripture...

It's, well, he's really bringing morals into this conversation. This is Jen Pisaki talking about how she's going to circle back to Tim Wall's not starting well. Listen carefully. Play cut 114.

But tonight I felt like he was spending a lot of time in the first half or two thirds proving he read the briefing materials and I was missing the magic and the organic spontaneity of Tim Walz. I know you already all talked about the January 6th moment, which I thought was great. And the moment on health care, also great. I loved it when he quoted the Bible and made it about morality on immigration. But I

But coming out of it, I hope that they free Tim Walz and put him out there and let him be rusty at times and make mistakes and hug football players and cry and be funny sometimes. That's the magic. That's why he's on the ticket. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Made it about morality when it comes to immigration. So just so we're clear, it is now permissible to have the Bible be a standard of morality in political discourse. I just want to make sure I'm hearing this correctly.

When I talk about how God created men and women, we talk about how borders are a biblical concept. We talk about how life begins at conception. All of that is no Charlie. It's separation of church and state. But this is so important, everybody. The moment you use scripture to justify left-wing politics, I'm glad that you're bringing morals into the conversation.

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Let's go to this here. This was the man. This is going viral here. This is from a Nicole Wallace. And again, please do not mix ever. It's a really important lesson. Do not mix Chardonnay with benzodiazepines. Bad mixture. Nicole Wallace goes on MSNBC and is just unhinged. I don't really understand what this is all about.

She perfectly embodies the upper middle class white liberal woman where there's just something missing in her life. And left-wing politics fills the void, but not totally, actually. It's like a counterfeit filling of a void. I don't know if Nicole Wallace is spiritual or not. I don't know if she has a good family life. But it's so intense. It's so nasty. And it's so uncalled for, actually. And I get so confused between Nicole Wallace and Stephanie Ruhle.

who are just kind of these like suburban wine moms that they put on MSNBC that are constantly just complaining about Trump being a threat to democracy. There are millions of these kind of suburban wine moms that tend to be part of the Trump derangement syndrome, Democrat Leviathan. Anyway, so this is Nicole Wallace here, Cut 112. And I actually think if you're aware

a woman that might be the worst moment J.D. Vance had because he was going to mansplain right over that mute button. He was and again, I don't pretend to know how everyone will react to this. I think that a lot of women in positions of authority that should command respect just by virtue of that dynamic will see themselves as some dude that disrespected them and talked over. You know, I mean, there was a moment like that with with the vice presidential in the Harris Pence debate.

So mansplaining is standing up for yourself up against three women. It's just truly you really wonder how politics can work if this is their reaction to like, oh, a guy firmly wants to explain the deranged thing the government is doing. And they're like, oh, my God, not a good look, Stacey. And by the way, I thought that the whole idea of feminism was that they wanted to be treated equal.

As women, this is the bigotry of low expectations that you can't stand up to a calm spoken. I mean, you just to be clear.

J.D. Vance could not have been more polite, yet firm, precise and effective. It was he didn't call them names. He said, wait a second. These were the rules. And he was a gentleman about it, making the women live up to their own rule book. And they didn't know how to deal with it. And how did they respond? With sarcasm. Oh, thank you, J.D. Vance, for letting us know about the legal process to let us into the country.

That right there is toxic femininity. It is everything that's wrong with modern politics. It is not the way that dialogue should occur. And they thought that they could continue to enforce the arbitrary rules against J.D. Vance and make him comply. And J.D. Vance just doesn't put up with that, actually. He's like, no, I'm going to...

I'm going to stand up for the truth and for what is right. I want to play more of a piece of tape here, which I think is really important, from last night. Let's play cut 115. ABC says, Walls Seemed Unsteady. Play cut 115.

I think that Walls did seem unsteady. And frankly, what I saw in Walls is somebody who has not faced questions on a national stage since he became the Democratic nominee. He was simply out of practice. I mean, I don't know why they've done it, but they've kept him out of the limelight. They've kept him away from reporters. They haven't had him do any interviews. And he was clearly unsteady through much of that debate. And in contrast, J.D. Vance was very smooth.

He took the arguments not to walls. He was very respectful of walls. I took it to Kamala Harris. The consensus amongst anybody that isn't a total politico is that J.D. Vance won this debate. J.D. Vance now has starting a spark plug. And now let's have a big week. We have J.D. Vance debate. We have Trump returning to Butler on Saturday. Voting is beginning. The chasing is starting. One week from today, Arizona ballots are out. One week from today. Poof.

We're all going to have to vote or Charlie's going to nag us. Oh, I'm going to nag the living snot out of you guys. And all of you need to, too. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

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