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Charlie's Mission to Montana

2024/10/10
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A discussion on environmental sustainability, human-centric approaches, fossil fuels, and climate change.
  • The Earth is currently greener than ever before due to increased carbon dioxide, which acts as plant food.
  • More human deaths result from cold-related natural disasters than heat-related ones.
  • A complete elimination of fossil fuels would be a catastrophic mistake.

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Hey everybody, here's a little bit of a window into my conversations with the students at University of Montana. For all of my patriots in Montana, make sure you vote for Tim Sheehy for U.S. Senate and to defeat Jon Tester. That's right, Tim Sheehy for U.S. Senate. We must defeat Jon Tester. Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Subscribe to our podcast, open up your podcast application and type in Charlie Kirk Show.

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Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here.

Hey, my name is Christian. I'm very glad to be here too. How are you? How are you enjoying Montana so far?

It's pretty gorgeous, actually. Very gorgeous, yeah. Beautiful day out today. It's not too cold. Just tilt up the mic a little bit. Yeah, yeah. All right, so I just want to get in and get out. I just want to ask you how you think our country's current efforts... I'm an environmental science student, and I'm just wondering how you believe our country's current efforts in promoting sustainability and respecting our resources are, and how you plan on addressing that in the future, or what your stances are on that. Do you mean like natural resources? Natural resources. Yeah. Yeah, sustaining them, you know.

So we're noticing water levels in a lot of different bodies of water depleting, and we're just, I don't think, on the right path at this current moment. I'm just wondering what your stance is on that. Yeah, my stance is a human-first perspective. So, I mean, of course I love the environment, and I want it to be clean and clean air, clean water. I guess my question for you, if there's a decision to be made, and if it harms humans but it helps the environment, what is the right decision? I believe the correct decision is to protect the environment. Yeah.

Even if it harms humans. No. No, good. No, I'm glad we agree. So we need to have a human first perspective, right? So would you say that it's a good thing that we have fossil fuels, oil, natural gas, fracking, things of that nature? I believe that it is necessary in our current day and age. I don't believe that we can phase it out immediately. I think it has to be a gradual process. But I also don't believe that electric vehicles are necessarily the path.

I think that we just need to reduce transportation in total instead of just transitioning it to another form. What do you mean by reducing transportation? More public transportation, trains. I mean, I think, you know, that can do a big... So we disagree on that. I think that the fact that people can own their own cars, go where they want to go when they want to go is a sign of liberty and independence and not have to be captive to the government.

But that's okay. We just disagree. I'm not disagreeing that everyone should be able to have their own vehicle. I'm just saying that as a person, you should try and reduce your use in any ways possible. Yeah, I don't see it that way, but that's okay. Okay. Awesome. And also, do you believe in climactic change and changing weather patterns like on a regional and local scale? Well, yes. I mean, weather is changing. Global temperatures are going up. Do I believe it's anthropogenic or human caused? That's debatable. Okay. And for what reasons?

Well, a couple of things. Carbon is life. So carbon does not necessarily cause rising global temperatures. We don't know why temperatures are going up. It might be because of carbon or human activity. Do you know that there's actually more greenery on this on the planet than any time ever before? The Earth is greener than it ever been, because, of course, as you increase carbon dioxide, carbon dioxide is plant food. So the world becomes greener as a result of that. Most human beings actually die as a result of cold based natural disasters, not warm based or heat based natural disasters.

So it's a very, very nuanced topic. I guess the question is, then what do we do about it? And the radical environmentalists not saying you're one of them want to get rid of fossil fuels completely, which I think would be a catastrophic mistake.

Yeah, I do believe that getting rid of fossil fuels completely would be a mistake if we did it incorrectly. Yes. But I also think that it's somewhat ignorant to say that more fossil fuels, like more CO2, is just plant food. Well, what about natural gas? Natural gas, are you in favor of that? Natural gas? I do like natural gas. That's a fossil fuel, right? Yes, our universe is actually powered by natural gas. Great. Yeah, so we agree. So, I mean, but natural gas requires fracking. Yes. Because natural gas is the output of traditional...

horizontal drilling, right? So you get the petroleum base and then you get the natural gas, which is basically the output from that. So yeah, we agree. We don't disagree much. Yes. Yes. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thank you. All right. Who's next? Disagreements? Welcome or whatever you want to say. Thank you for being here. Yes. Hello. Hello. I'm Katie. Unfortunately, it's not a disagreement. So sorry. But I do have a question, which is what advice or input

Do you have regarding all these young voters with this huge influx of endorsements coming from these highly influential celebrities? Yeah. Such as like Taylor Swift and people like that. Yeah. You know, huge thing with Supernatural and nerds for Harris. And so I'm just kind of curious. Well, I mean, first of all, I mean, if you're accepting political advice from people whose lives are totally screwed up, that's a really bad idea. Yeah.

So don't do that. And when you're making a political decision, it should be less about what someone who's good at music or playing guitar says and more about what's going to improve your life. And we've seen that Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have destroyed this country over the last three and a half years. Donald Trump had this country in a phenomenal place. Better economy, secure border, no foreign wars.

And so, yeah, I mean, some rapper is going to tell you to go vote for Kamala Harris. But don't you want to be able to own a home? Oh, but some rapper told me to go vote Kamala Harris. Well, don't you want to not be drafted into World War Three? But some rapper told me to go vote for Kamala Harris. So it's silly. You should use wisdom and prudence when you make your political decisions. And I mean, the more celebrities that vote Kamala Harris, that endorse Kamala Harris, the more I like Donald Trump. Thank you so much.

So my question is, like, so you're obviously, like, a professional political pundit. You've had years of training. You know, you have all this money worth of resources behind you. You have a PR team. You got security here. So, like, why do you, as, like, a professional pundit, think it's fair to come to college campuses and debate, like, college freshmen? Like, doesn't that seem, like, kind of unfair to you? No.

Well, hold on. I mean, let's stop talking down to college kids. I'm talking to voters, right? This audience will determine the future of America. And as you could see with my first dialogue, I'm not here to be adversarial. We disagreed. I let him have his points in. And as far as the fair standpoint, I have no notes. You can go bring a professor. Why don't you go bring a professor and bring him up to the mic? Okay, well, okay.

Why don't you go find five professors that have PhDs? I didn't go to college. That's a fair fight, right? By the way, you guys are in college. I graduated high school.

Okay. I mean, like, you come here, you say, this is not adversarial, but, I mean, on the text message you sent out, it says, come to the debate. You have this sign that says, prove me wrong. It seems like you, like, want this, like, debate to happen so you can put it on YouTube and upload a clip of you dunking on the libs or whatever, dude. It seems like a grift is what it seems like to me. Okay, but hold on a second. Don't you agree that more speech, not less speech, is better for a free society? Sure, I agree with that, yeah, but I would agree that, like, on this basis, it just seems like

It's like disparate levels of like resources. You know what I mean? It doesn't seem to me. It seems like kind of disingenuous and you coming here because it seems like you don't really like want to have this debate. You just want to like dunk on people, bro. Well, let me say, I mean, so you're trying to play to my intentions, though. So let me why am I here? I'm here to support our turning point chapter. I'm here to help Tim Sheehy to defeat Jon Tester, as I said, which there's a lot of support for that.

And we're going to have dialogue and disagreement. And yes, I've been doing this for quite a while. But you could also go phone a friend. Go bring 10 libs. You can all have your phones. And you could debate me and I'll have no notes. And we'll see who wins. In fact, I just debated 25 college kids by myself and actually went pretty well. So...

Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure what your point is here. This is a free speech event. You can bring whoever you want. And also, you don't have to come up to the mic. I was just asking you, dude. Yeah, and that's it. So if there's a point of disagreement, we can do that. But last thing I'll say is this, is don't think so low of college kids. You might, I don't. This audience will determine the future of Western civilization. And this audience might be drafted into a world war. This

This audience is being used as pawns by people like Jon Tester and Kamala Harris to put their radical agenda. It's time that we start talking to the next generation, not talking down to the next generation. And that's what we're doing. Thank you.

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Okay. How are you? I'm good. How are you? So I know close to nothing about politics, and I've seen you on TikTok a couple times, and you seem to have had some really good points. And I guess I was wondering, why should I vote for Trump and Sheehy over John Tester and Kamala Harris? That's a great question. What's your name? My name is Anthony. Anthony. Give it up for Anthony. That's a great question. Thank you. So let's start with Trump.

There's no guesswork in this election. We know the type of president that Trump was and that he will be. The three things that matter most is I bet you want to own a home in your life, right? Definitely. That's one of my biggest concerns. Absolutely. When Trump was president, interest rates were 2%. Now they're near 10%.

When Trump was president, it required an average of $75,000 a year to be able to afford a 30-year mortgage. Now, $125,000 a year in just four years under Kamala Harris. Why is that? It's because Kamala Harris has decided to print $6 to $7 trillion that we do not have, flood the zone with money, and increase asset prices everywhere. The second of which is war.

I bet as a fair-minded person, you don't want to see yourself drafted into World War III and that seeing these wars abroad are not good for your country or generation. In fact, I think the Iraq War was a mistake. The Afghanistan War was a mistake. Donald Trump was the first president –

in 30 years to not declare any new wars and be the peace president. Barack Obama, we had new wars. George W. Bush, we had new wars. Joe Biden, we had new wars. For four years, we had no peace. We had no wars. We had peace with Russia. We had peace with Israel. We had peace with Ukraine.

The final thing is the border. Right now, over 10 million people have crossed the southern border illegally under Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, 13,000 of which are convicted murderers from other countries, 15,000 of which are convicted rapists from other countries. That means that there are 28,000 people that were convicted of rape and murder just recently.

in the interior of the country and people have no idea where they are. Donald Trump had the southern border the most secure it ever was in American history. And to come into this country, you had to come in legally and come in orderly. So when Donald Trump was president, young people were flourishing, owning homes, being able to start families. You saw your incomes come up. Now all of you, I'm sure you're feeling it. Things are unaffordable. They're out of reach. It is harder than ever to be able to have the American dream. You are the first generation.

since George Washington to have it worse off than your parents. And that is because of Kamala Harris and Jon Tester that use you guys as pawns to fund their political agenda in D.C. Donald Trump will restore the American dream for your generation. So another follow-up question is, I'm sure you have all your sources, but...

Where do you get these statistics, if you don't mind me asking? It's okay. So the first one is actually Zillow.com, far more reputable than even – it's more reputable than a government website. You guys could check it out. Zillow tracks the average house because that's their job, right? If you guys know Zillow, it's the real estate aggregator of the country. And so in Missoula, Montana, it required about – it was even less. It was like $60,000 a year. You guys remember how cheap houses used to be here? Not anymore, right? Yeah.

Why is that? Well, two things. It's cheap money and a bunch of Californians that love Missoula that come into your state, right? And we love some of the Californians that come in, right?

But no, so just you could fact check it yourself. I encourage you to just look at Zillow.com and look at what it required to be able to own a home back four years ago versus now. It's all transparent. The second one is wars. I don't really need a citation for that, but there was no new wars under Trump. There's two wars right now. Israel is invading Lebanon right now. We have the situation in Gaza. We have Russia, Ukraine. It's a disaster. We are on the verge of a nuclear third world war.

which is a disaster. And then as far as the border statistics, that is straight from Immigration Customs Enforcement, the CBP, which is the Border Patrol, Council of Border Patrol. And then finally, this last weekend, the Immigration Customs Enforcement issued the letter that said that 13,000 murders are just in the interior of the United States. We don't know who they are or where they are. And 15,000 people convicted of rape. So those are the citations.

Got it, got it. And I wanted to just have you say that just so no one could tell you like, oh, I don't have any sources. I don't have any of this or that. Smart kid here. I like that. It's good. And my final question is, do you think that Trump would be able to help bring down like overall costs, bring up income, make money?

America livable again? Absolutely. He will make America affordable again. How? Number one, we will drill baby drill and bring down the price of energy so that it does not cost as much to heat your home in the winter, to drive, to be able to go on vacation or to drive to work.

We're going to bring down the price of oil. Donald Trump will drill, baby, drill and bring down the price of oil day one. Number two, inflation is a byproduct of wasteful government spending. Donald Trump will stop all of this bloated government COVID nonsense. He will bring down the spending and instead he will bring more money in your pocket delivering no tax on tips, no tax on Social Security, no tax on overtime.

So what that does is it brings more money back into your pockets, less money in the government's pockets, which will be the greatest tax cut in American history. Donald Trump is running on the biggest middle class tax cut in American history by promising no tax on tips, no tax on social security, no tax on overtime. And finally, and most importantly, one of the reasons why housing prices is going up is when you allow 10 million people into your country that were uninvited, you guys have to now compete against foreigners for homes.

So there's only so many homes. It's supply and demand. There's now more demand for homes and a huge supply of purchasers, which brings the price up.

And so instead of saying, well, you have to compete against the Honduran for a house in Missoula, Americans should come first when it comes for housing in this country, not people from the third world. So Donald Trump doing the largest deportation effort in American history will put you guys first when it comes to housing and affordability, not the people that illegally came into this country. Got it. Got it. I think you want a hat. Yes, sir. All right. He wants a hat, everybody. Give it up for him. Thank you. Have a good day. God bless.

I'll make an exception, but usually I want students. Unless you're a student. I am a student. All right, okay. Thank you. In fact, that's why I want to talk to you. My name is Carolyn. I went back to school later on in life. I am getting my B.A. I carry a 4.0 grade point average. I am on the presidential list and the dean's list every semester. Here's my issue. I chose college.

something in my life I didn't like. I wanted to be a teacher my whole life. Everybody kept telling me, you're great with kids, you'll be a teacher. So I did. I went to college. I was excited about being a teacher. It's been my dream for 40 years. My second semester, I'm carrying an A average and my teacher writes me an email and asked me what my pronouns were.

I'm first year Gen X. I don't have a pronoun. Let me tell you what I do have. I have a noun and it's my name. And that's the only English language I can actually say I have.

But I was cool and I was really kind. Excuse my language, but y'all are adults here, right? Okay, good. So, excuse my language, but you know what? I am pissed off because when I said to her, I'm sorry, I don't claim a pronoun, I got failed. I got failed in three of her courses.

And my grade point average went from a 4.0 down to a 2.5 because I didn't carry a pronoun. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? I have an incredible grade point average. I'm a smart woman. I've been working in the workforce for 40 years, and my generation...

If y'all don't understand, invented the internet, for Christ's sakes. We're not stupid. All right? And yet, you're going to fail me for my pronouns. So my questions are this. As a student, if I don't want to claim this woke ideology, how...

Do I advance and get my degree in something I love and really want to do and would be really good at without being failed unless I fall into their agenda? Tell me how to fix this. Yeah, so first, thank you for your blunt nature. It's very refreshing. So...

Yes, there is no easy answer. Number one, there's strength in numbers. Confronting professors or administrators with you plus 10 or 30 other people is the first way to do it. You should not go to appeal by yourself. You should go with the turning point chapter and ask for a remedy with many people alongside of you. Number two, though, and I'm just going to be as blunt as possible as you were.

I really don't think grades matter that much in the world. I know they matter to you for advancement. My advice to people is that your character and your integrity and standing for what is right matters a lot more than pandering to some sort of an agenda. And I know you agree with that. Well, the problem is, is that you lose your funding. OK, the minute your grades hit below C.

You lose all your grants and all your funding that's free. So all these college kids that are getting this college that are getting these Pail Grants get them pulled. No, I'm not diminishing that. So they're holding your career hostage over that money. That's why I think college is a scam. I still think you should not comply to their tyrannical, woke orthodox.

You should fight for it. You should fight on it. But to be perfectly honest, I think that it destroys your soul every time that you comply with their nonsense. But God bless you and thank you for being a lifelong learner. Thank you.

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I hope I don't have a similar experience as that woman had. And I have a question about the health care, the public health here in the United States. Sorry, I'm going to pull out my notes. My father was actually, he's currently working in health care benefits. And he doesn't have a clear political ideology about this, but he works a lot with the direct statistics about this. So I can trust a lot of what he says about this, which...

For example, in healthcare in all of the developed countries, regardless of people's incomes, there is a lot of free public healthcare. And the fact that it has better outcomes and it costs less in other developed countries than the United States is remarkable.

I think something that we need to work on. And so in your opinion, why do you think the United States continues to resist such a model of the health care system? Yeah, it's a great question. What's your name again? Luca. Luca. Thank you. So first of all, this is why I'm so excited that Bobby Kennedy is joining Donald Trump to make America healthy again.

So there's two conversations when it comes to health care. There's treatment and then there's causes. And we never talk about causes. So causes would be the poisons that we're giving our kids and the food. And, for example, half of our 15-year-olds are chronically obese in America. Three percent of 15-year-olds in Japan are chronically obese.

Something is wrong. And it starts with the food that we are feeding our kids of high fructose corn syrup, of Lunchables, of heavy carbohydrates. We are actively poisoning our kids of stuff that is banned in other countries, by the way. It's banned in Germany. It's banned in Denmark. It's banned in European countries. So our kids are actually dealing from a nutritional deficit.

that other countries don't have. Number two, when it comes to causes, we look way too quickly at drugs for our solution when lifestyle changes and diet is a much better holistic solution to fix some of our underlying issues. For example, Congress is about to approve Ozembic to be on the Medicaid schedule, which will cost us a trillion dollars a year because they say obesity is now the new disease and it is genetic and you can't solve it. I'm sorry. Maybe before we give people Ozembic,

We should tell them to start walking three miles a day and get out of their house and eat better than just injecting themselves with some Danish drug. And then I'll get to the second part of your question in a second.

And so we have to talk about root causes, which is a healthier approach to life, which is more movement, more activity, and better food. When it comes to treatment, though, we are very, very good in America when it comes to acute treatment. I agree. So let me just explain what that means. So acute, we're the best in the world. If you guys have a heart attack right now, you know, God forbid, a gunshot wound, we have the best immediate care on the planet. So our hospitals are trained to make sure you live.

We have the worst in the Western world when it comes to chronic. When it comes to chronic, which is autoimmune disease, Lyme disease, ulcerative colitis. We're really bad at that because we don't get to root causes. Do you have a point you want to make? Yeah, I totally agree with you with that. My dad, in fact, has told me many times that you can go to the hospital. You get totally treated. But let's say you live in Hamilton and you're dealing with rural health care.

it's terrible. These costs are just so much, which is kind of what I was asking you. Why do you think that they're so high? Why do you think these prescription drugs are so high? And why do you think that we still have a system like this? Is it not just a political ideology or is it something like a bipartisan effort that we need to solve as a country as a whole? First of all, there's too much demand for drugs because we resort to drugs when lifestyle changes could otherwise fit. So therefore the price of drugs go up.

That's number one. Number two, this is a much deeper and wonkier conversation, but it's very, very expensive to become a doctor in this country. In my opinion, we should reserve doctors as specialists when nurse practitioners could deal with 90 to 95 percent of things. But otherwise, you have to go see a doctor to be able to. You guys probably sympathize with that, right?

And a doctor is selling you his prescription pad. That's all he's doing, right? Oh, you have these symptoms? Take these two drugs. Thanks so much. 800 bucks later, right? So the solution is to open it up for more nurse practitioners or people that have medical training, but they might not have to get all the schooling or the debt. So here's the problem, is a doctor has to have, what, $300,000 in medical debt. They have to justify a higher salary to pay off their medical debt. You guys all pay more. If you guys, for example, have COVID-19,

90% of the time you don't need to see a doctor, right? You might need some drugs, but like a nurse can diagnose you pretty quickly. The COVID test, look at your symptoms. Now, if they last and they continue, then maybe you can go see a doctor. So it's a longer conversation. Our healthcare system is awful. And also the hospital lobby is too strong. Sorry, one more, I guess, rebuttal to that. I actually do speech and evade. So this is really fun for me to talk with you. And basically, I guess, in regards to that,

It's not exactly just because people are buying so many drugs that they're so expensive. It's also because of the companies themselves, because it's a as we know, it's a private versus a public health care system. And definitely like these private health care companies can gouge up these prices. And so I think it's the responsibility of the government to maybe try to negotiate this.

These drug prices, which is you make a great point. So let's just close with this. That is the best argument that I use. That's if you say, Charlie, where'd you change your mind? I no longer believe the American drug companies want you to be healthy. I think they want you to stay on drugs for the rest of your life. And so I totally agree as a free market person. That is that is one of the we as conservatives have to reconcile with the fact that we are free market people. But our current private drug companies want to sell you something for the rest of your life and not actually get you healthier.

So would the government do it better? Maybe I'm open minded to it. Probably not, because I think big government sucks, as I've said my entire career. But we also shouldn't act as if Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, Johnson and Johnson are there to make you healthy. They want you on drugs for the rest of your life. They want you on six prescriptions. How you fix that? I think Bobby Kennedy being part of Donald Trump's a good start. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thank you.

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Hello, Charlie. My name is Sergio. I'm from Spain, so pardon my English. I have a couple questions. Your English is great. Thank you. I've been studying a lot. Anyway, so my first question is, you've previously called universities a scam. You even have a book about it. Then why do you continue to do tour and speak at them? Could you clarify this apparent contradiction? Yes, absolutely. So I believe college is a scam. I believe you college students are being scammed.

So we at Turning Point are on a rescue mission to save as many students as possible from the woke mind virus to make sure you guys know you're not alone and you can live in a better and free society. So you students are that's who I'm talking to. Right. And so but to be very clear, why do I believe college is a scam? Half of you guys, if you graduate with a four year degree.

if you graduate, will not use your degree when you get a job. Half. Do you guys know that? That half of all college graduates end up not using their degree even when they get a job that doesn't require a college degree. Secondly, the national graduation rate is 59%, so 41% of people that enter college do not graduate. And then finally is the cost. What is out-of-state tuition here at University of Montana? $20,000? That is low compared to most schools. What is in-state? Is it...

Nursing in-state or out-of-state? That's actually not bad. It's still a lot of money, but with room board, I bet it's closer to $30,000, right?

And so that's actually some of the lower in the country. But said differently, and I'll say this as succinctly as I can, we have a generation of young people that's borrowing a bunch of money to study things that don't matter, to find jobs that don't exist. Okay. Also, like a couple minutes ago, you were referring about, you quoted how taxes, like,

Trump is going to stand that no taxes, so people will have more money on their pockets. But don't you think that will make a social difference? Because actually what you're saying is that if there's no money on the government, then they cannot help minorities or people that, for example, cross the border that do it because they don't have any, like, how do you say it? Like...

Food, money, job. Resources, sure. Resources, thank you. You're doing great. And also, don't you think that if money from taxes would go to the government, they wouldn't help lower down the school tuition? The debt to sit? The school tuition, because for example in Spain, going to college a year is like only $1,400. Yeah, okay, so two things. I'm curious, did you go to college in Spain? Yeah, yeah, I'm in my senior year and I'm studying abroad right now. Oh, very good. And so how much do you pay in taxes though in Spain, would you say?

To be honest, I'm not really sure. You mean on food? Well, you have a VAT tax. We have like 21% sales tax. But that actually helps to lower down. Would you guys like a 21% sales tax? I'm not picking on you. This is the American versus the Spanish argument. And it's a very good point you make. I'm not picking on you, Sergio. Which is that in Spain, there's a belief I'm okay paying more of my money to the government because I'll get services back.

The American belief is, wait, it's my money. Let me keep my money. I'll make better decisions than the government will. And so we just have a disagreement of worldview. And so you are correct. In Spain, the sticker price is lower, $1,400, but you pay a lot more in taxes, more in income tax, more in sales tax, so on and so forth. And so the belief system we have, you say, well, the government will not be able to do all these things.

Well, yes, we believe that the government actually has far overreached what its role is and that you, the citizen, should actually be able to keep more of your money. How do we help the disadvantaged in this country? Of course, we want a safety net. But most important, we want charities. We want churches. We want individuals helping individuals. We don't always want to look to the government to be able to step up and help our fellow men. Woo!

Do you just quote it? Do you just last question? Yeah. I have two more. Sorry. Just quote it. I'll make better. Like you believe that people will make better decisions. Yes. But if you're encouraging people to vote for Trump, like in a government, shouldn't you be trusting what Trump will make with your money? Well, not necessarily. I mean, Trump represents a five million person federal government if he becomes president. But even if it's Trump as president, I still think, you know, what's your name?

Cash, what's your name? Mason. Cash and Mason might want to do something different with their money than the government. He might want to go buy a new rifle to go hunting. He might not like hunting. The point is that there is individual nuance and complexity to all of our lives and that putting more money in your pocket –

allows you to have the agency to do that, not just government being able to tell you what to do, right? And so that is in lockstep with the American tradition of when it comes to – it's first and foremost our money, not the government's money. Final question. My final question is that in Spain, where I'm from, different political parties have representation in the House of Representatives based on the number of votes that they receive.

With your tour, books, podcasts, and interviews, you're aiming to spread and promote your political view. Do you think adopting a system like one in Spain where various voices are represented proportionally would help unify different forces, encouraging discussion, and lead to more compromise instead of fostering devised arguments? No, and with all due respect to you, the Spanish political system is a mess. I think you can agree with that, right?

I mean, it's constant bedlam, protests in the streets. You got part of your country that wants to secede, right? I mean, it's not exactly, I'd say, a stable political system. So, no, I like the American system. Thank you, Sergio. Appreciate it. God bless you. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

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