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Kaitlan Collins: Still Surreal

2024/10/3
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Kaitlan Collins: Jack Smith提交的关于1月6日事件的简报,提供了对那段时间最全面、最详尽的描述,其中包含了特朗普对彭斯疏散的漠视、对西德尼·鲍威尔的嘲讽以及其手机数据留下的不利证据。这些信息即使可能不会在法庭上呈现,也具有重要的新闻价值。此外,她还讨论了特朗普目前在竞选活动中使用的论调与他在1月6日事件之前的言论如出一辙,以及Liz Cheney与Kamala Harris合作的政治意义。她还分享了自己在阿拉巴马州的经历,以及这如何帮助她理解特朗普的支持者。最后,她谈到了保守派媒体的现状以及她在每日来电者和CNN的工作经历。 Tim Miller: 他与Kaitlan Collins讨论了对特朗普1月6日事件指控的反应,以及在最后32天内争取中间派共和党选民支持的可能性。他还评论了特朗普发布的视频内容,以及保守派媒体的现状。 Megyn Kelly: 她批评Kaitlan Collins的报道缺乏公正性和个性,认为其报道枯燥乏味,缺乏个性。

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Jack Smith's detailed filing provides a comprehensive view of Trump's actions and mindset during the January 6th events. It reveals Trump's apparent indifference to Pence's safety, his mocking of Sidney Powell, and his engagement with Fox News coverage while the Capitol was under attack.
  • Trump seemed "giddy" about the events unfolding on January 6th.
  • Trump dismissed concerns about Pence's safety with "So what?"
  • Trump watched Fox News coverage of the events and tweeted about Pence's lack of courage shortly after.
  • Trump privately mocked Sidney Powell while publicly supporting her claims.
  • Jack Smith's team has forensic data from Trump's phone, revealing his activity on Twitter and other apps during the events.

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Jack Smith's filing on Jan 6 reads almost like a novel—with Trump shrugging about Pence having to be evacuated, mocking true believer Sidney Powell, and implicating himself with a damning phone-data footprint. Plus, life as a CNN anchor, the evolution of conservative media, and no, Megyn, Kaitlan is an Alabama girl. 

Kaitlan Collins joins Tim Miller.