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Direct from the Broski Nation headquarters in Los Angeles, California, this is the Broski Report with your host, Brittany Broski. We go to work for one half hour to half hour. We go to work for one half hour to half hour. We have cigarette for lunch.

Okay, hey guys welcome back to the broski report sorry for being your host Brittany Broski It's that time of the year again that time of the episode. It's a new segment I'm calling top of the hour stem hour. Okay, it's time to just do 17 vocal stems back to back to back And here's the first one we got to work for one half hour to half hour and did and did for cigarettes we have And then for lunch we have cigarette

Here's another one. I love it, I love it, I love it. Holy shit, I'm feeling annoying right now. I'm feeling annoying. Do any of y'all watch Smiling Friends? You know, Glep? Glep from Smiling Friends? Or what's his fucking name? The short little freak from Wild Thornberries. The tiny little freak. What is it? Donnie? Donnie from Wild Thornberries? That's how I feel.

And then Glepp says, because he's a grown man. He has a job, he has a pension, he has healthcare. Okay, and that was actually really fucking good if you watched My League Friends. Here's my Donnie. Holy shit. I'm doing this new thing where I don't eat. I'm trying out this new thing where I don't eat. And it's not on some eating disorder bullshit. I just like forget. I forget to eat sometimes.

Guess what I had for breakfast this morning? A Premier Protein coffee, okay? And here's what I did this morning, y'all! Now stay with me, 'cause I feel fucking crazy! All I've had to eat today is a Premier Protein shake that I put some peppermint-flavored syrup in, and then a Red Bull. That's all. I can't believe I said that.

I'm doing this thing where I don't eat. Okay. I'm back on my Greta Van Fleet bullshit, bitch. And where are they? Where the fuck is Josh Kizka? Happy Pride Month to Josh Kizka and Josh Kizka alone. Where the fuck is he? First guest on the podcast, Josh Kizka. Josh, how are you doing today? That was my Josh Kizka impression.

Josh, so creatively for this next album, you know, what were the inspirations? Did you pull from any maybe unordinary, extraordinary creative spaces that isn't just Aretha Franklin, Nina Simone? Where are you pulling from? Sorry. I have a Greta Van Fleet tattoo. I can make fun of him.

I have a Greta Van Fleet tattoo and I would consider Josh and I acquaintances. So I can do a Josh Kiske impression and you bitches are not going to tweet my address. Okay? I have a tattoo. I am a Greta Van Fleet-inator. I'm a Greta girl. Bitch. We go to work for one half hour to half hour. Do we have cigarette for lunch? Do we have cigarette for lunch? Okay. Okay.

What the f- I don't even know. Here's the thing. Why is everyone getting accepted to fucking Shiz University and I'm not? I want to go to Shiz University. Congratulations, Brooke. This is Brooke Averick, bitch. Brooke, we are pleased to inform you that you have been accepted to Shiz University, the finest educational institute in Oz.

Okay? The admissions committee received hundreds of thousands of applications this year, and we believe you have what it takes to succeed here at Shiz. That's rude, because what about me? You will be able to discoverate your true potential at your beautiful campus under the encouragement. Why do you think gay people love Wicked so much?

What is it about? I'm actually going to Google it. Why do gay people dye their hair? Why do gay people use condoms? Why do gay people love horror? Why do gay people like Subarus? Why do gay people like Palm Springs? Why do gay people say Mary? Why do gay people use the rainbow? Why do gay people say partner? Why do gay people have the gay voice?

Those are all the proposed searches. Those are the proposed searches. What? Why do gay people like Subarus? Let's start there. Is Subaru considered a lesbian car? How Subarus became the car for lesbians. How an ad campaign made lesbians fall in love with Subarus. That is good marketing. Okay.

How have you, there are a few things like that, products, brands, that have forever been like crystallized within the community like that. And it's just like, damn, whoever was on the inside of these companies doing that shit, you, yeah, you won the internet for today. Epic win. You won. You, my friend, won the internet today.

I'm going to start commenting that on people's shit. I just recently commented on Madison Pierce's Instagram post. Let me see what I said. I said, she posted some fucking sleigh picture. I'm just a girl. She posted some sleigh photo dump. And I commented, me when I smash the sleigh button so hard it cracks and breaks the whole system and causes an electrical grid failure. And there are three replies under it.

Someone said, you're so real for this. So that's how it's done. That's how you support women. I hate everything I've said so far. I hate every single word that's come out of my mouth other than the Josh Kiske bit. That was funny. Okay. Stopping at a green light, girl. I want to get you to go. Stopping at a green light, girl. I want to... You are my special. You are my special. You are my midnight, midnight.

Yeah, yeah. So sweet. So fine. So there. Mama!

That's what I was going to do. Okay. This is something that I have. We're going to do two things. Okay. Number one, we're going to analyze my birth chart and my nose is like leaking. I'm leaking fluid. I'm sweating everywhere. I had probably back to back 160 milligrams of caffeine. Okay. That is not that it's like two cups of coffee. Maybe actually how much

How many times have we fucking Googled this? My brain is going way faster than my mouth. And then as soon as it hits my mouth, I'm like, that was stupid. Don't say that. Don't say that. You know what I mean? I think I need to be medicated. How many milligrams of caffeine in a cup of coffee? 95? Damn. How many milligrams of caffeine in a Red Bull? 111. Okay.

So what I originally thought was about 150 milligrams of caffeine in my system, we're looking at over 200. We're looking at about 200 and 205, 111 plus 95, 111 plus 95, 111 plus 95. Hold on, hold on. 111 plus 95.

One six, zero, one, two oh six, two oh six. We're looking at 200, I literally just had to write that, I scratched it onto the table with my nail. Kind of impressive, kind of shocked at how non-scratch resistant this table is. It's kind of shocking. Okay, 206 milligrams of caffeine in my body. How much caffeine is too much?

For most healthy adults, up to 400 milligrams of caffeine per day is generally considered safe. I feel like my heart's beating out of my damn chest. I feel like that part of the Billie Eilish song where she does, but it's that on a six hour loop, okay? And how about Jessie Rutherford making that album that mimics the greatest? That song made me sob, sob the first time I heard it. I would like to hear Josh Kiska sing the entire Billie Eilish album.

Hit me hard, hit me hard and in the gut and soft and fast and quiet and loud. Hit me hard and soft. What does that mean, do you think? Hit me hard and soft. Hit me hard and soft. Why is it called that? Why is it called that?

Derives from a conversation she had with Phineas when she mistakenly thought the name of a synth in Logic Pro was called Hit Me Hard and Soft. I thought it was such a perfect encapsulation of what this album does, she explains. I love William Eyelash. Billy Eyelash. Hit me. Hit me hard and soft. We go to, we work for one half hour to half hour. Have hard and soft for lunch. We.

Oh! I forgot her song is- That's actually so funny! Was it really May of this year? We go to work for one half hour to half hour have Hit Me Hard and Soft for lunch. I could eat that girl for lunch. Yeah, it tastes like your tongue. Like this, with the tides underneath. I had breath of the last cigarette on my teeth. She's an actress. She says you got beef.

Do you know who I fucking miss, dude? I'm gonna do the rest of the podcast from back here. Do you know who I miss? I'm actually gonna hold this. Can I do that? Do you know who I miss? I miss Harry Styles. I miss Harry Styles in a way that is a little hard for me.

to explain in a way that some of y'all would understand because you have to have lived and experienced love on tour and not necessarily, 'cause look, there are some Harry fans that converted after 1D, okay? If you didn't grow up with 1D, if you didn't grow up from X Factor, you're not gonna have, look, you're, okay, y'all seriously, you know who I'd love to talk to, Zane Lowe. I'd love to talk to Zane Lowe, just off camera, I'd love to just pick his brain, okay?

If you didn't grow up with One Direction and you converted to being a Harry Styles fan, you know, what, when HS1 came out, something like that, I get it, okay? You're just missing out on a huge chunk of the lore. Not to say it can't be learned, okay? You can learn it. It's just being there, it's different, okay? Having lived through it, having the battle scars to show, having the community of the PTSD, it is different.

Not to say that if you started standing around 2017, 2018, that you're not a super Harry fan. Okay, you are. You can be. It's just a bit different, you know, if you've been through the whole ride. Because it's this combined, you know, spiral DNA thing of as he was growing up as a teenager, so were you. And so in that way, you know, Harry Styles has been a part of my life. And I said this, I think, when I met him. That whole, like...

one night only release of Harry's House. He has been a part of my life as long as my best friend has. Like I have truly loved him for damn near half my life. And so to get to meet these people, you know, where it's a different sort of, and okay, this is gonna be the fangirl episode. Sorry, do you mind?

We're going to compare different types of stand-em in my life, okay? And I'm curious to know if you guys would agree. I'm curious to know if you guys have some opposing thoughts. There are different levels to it and different ways in which that fervor manifests, okay? For Harry with me,

Like I said, it's so intertwined to its cellular level with my adolescence and like my growing up that, of course, I'm very attached to him as an adult because it's nostalgic, but it's also I love his music and I love him and I love what he represents. I have multiple Harry Styles tattoos. It's something about his worldview and what he puts out into the world that I

I've talked about this ad nauseum before. It's everything that anyone could ever hope to be. You know what I mean? Kind, overly generous, loving. At every opportunity, he puts love out into the world and expects nothing in return. And that's just, it's a beautiful thing. I love him for so many different reasons. Now, okay? Of course I love Harry's music. Of course I love Harry's music.

Hosier's music affects me in a different way, on a much deeper way than I would say Harry's discography. But do I love them one more than the other? No. Okay? All of my sort of faves are equal in my eyes. Other than Beyonce, she sort of takes the cake for everything. She's the number one. Everyone else is sort of tied for... There's like 13 different people tied for silver. You know what I mean? Three of those being, of course, Harry, Hosier, Rosalia. Okay? Okay?

When we talk about hosier, which I've done again, ad nauseum, which is a Latin phrase for to the point of nausea, which we'll get into the Roman Empire in a second. I'm going to write that down because I have a lot to talk about the Roman Empire. Holy shit, this caffeine's hitting. I woke up this morning like, I don't want to film the podcast. And then I had three sips of my blue, blue, blue, blue. Did we go to work for one half hour, two half hour? Didn't we have Red Bull on for lunch? Yeah.

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Late high school. Okay. Maybe I listened to...

self-titled okay and I was like oh this album's really good it was on rotation with I used to listen to like Mumford and Sons and Arctic Monkeys and all that like it was sort of in that zeitgeist of 2013-2014 music that was so important and formative to me and then in college I kind of forgot he existed then was it 2018-2019 Wasteland Baby Drops okay Wasteland Baby Drops

I'm at my job. TikTok hasn't really happened yet. This is probably like July, July, August of, now what the fuck is that? July, August of 2019. When did Wasteland Baby come out? Wasteland Baby.

March 1st, 2019. Okay. Period. This kickstarted what some might refer to as a crippling obsession with him and with his artistry, because of course, self-titled was amazing. Loved it. Some very iconic records came from that album. Um,

This album changed me as a woman. Nina Cried Power, Movement, Sunlight, all of these songs were so formative to my music taste. And the type of lyricism that I think deserves the utmost regard and the utmost respect and flowers. And I mean, it's truly...

If you get it, you get it. And if you don't, you don't. And when I had the beautiful opportunity, once in a lifetime opportunity to sit down with him and ask him questions, which by the way, can we just reflect on that for a second? Why did that happen? Why did his team say yes to that? That's crazy. That's truly fucking crazy. Why did his team say yes to that? I am for Columbia Records. Thank you, Columbia Records, for all that you have given me.

Holy shit. That day, that was one of the best days of my whole life. And I sound like a 13 year old when I say that. That was the best day ever. That was one of the best days of my life. Like, I hope you understand that. I just saw him at the Kia forum like a week ago. Every time I see him, it feels like the first time. Okay, anyway. That conversation with Hosier, which if you haven't seen it, it's on my YouTube channel. Just go watch it.

I feel like every fan has this list of questions that when art has affected you so deeply and to your core in the way that the quality of art that Hosier makes, you have a specific list of questions that it's like, if I ever met them, this is what I would ask them. And I would be cool. And I would be, you know, I would stand out because I'm a real fan and I want to know these deep introspective questions. But what I've learned about Hosier

hosting and being an interviewer and and

both a mixture of my instinct as an interviewer and what I want to know as a person mixed with what does the audience want to see? You know what I mean? And you have to marry the two and mix them in a way that is entertaining from beginning to end. And it satisfies, it checks a lot of those boxes for a lot of different people. It's a difficult endeavor, but it helps if you are a true fan of the person. So sitting down with Hosier was this

It was this daunting task, but at the same time, not hard at all, because I've known the questions I've wanted to ask him for damn near five, six years. So compiling this list of questions, sitting down, I wanted it to be a mixture of

Making him feel comfortable, you know, getting sort of accustomed to my sense of humor because it's not – it's a goofy sense of humor. And if you're not a goofy person, it's a little off-putting. But at the same time, if you're a secretly goofy person, my hope is that I draw that out of you, right? That's the whole point of royal court is I put you in this incredibly stupid setting where I make you wear a cape and I make you wear a hat and all this –

just insane decoration around you to immerse you in this world. I shine the light in your eyes, we do this, you know, and then it's a serious line of questioning at the end. It is perfectly engineered like that because it's completely based off of my thought pattern of if I was a guest on a show, this is how I would want it to go. You know, you can't off the bat be

serious and then try to make it silly. It's like, well, we're here now. We're here in this space that's very serious and very, you know, I want to get to know the heart of you and your work and your career and your artistry and your life and your personality and how your mind works. You can't pivot from that to like, okay, penis, epic sauce. You can't do that. You have to follow the flow, you know, and I'm sort of at the mercy of the guest. Anyway, when I interviewed Hosier,

I know because the true hosier girls know. He's a silly little goose. He has a very, very silly sense of humor and he's very witty. Because of course he's witty. Because you have to have that love. When you are that smart, you're quick. But at the same time,

He takes his time to answer a question in a meaningful way and you can be very, very vulnerable in your lyricism and be a bit shy in person. You know, I think that art is the way that it helps people process those emotions that are difficult to convey those emotions in just a conversation, you know, or in a very eye-to-eye direct manner.

It's way easier, and I say easy in quotations, to take those feelings, bottle them, mold them like pottery or clay into a piece of art that is beautiful.

bit abstract. It's a bit more digestible because it's this roundabout way of talking about what you want to talk about. You know, you go into writing a song or a poem with an idea of this is the emotion I'm feeling. This is what I want to convey. What metaphors, what imagery can I use that

will summarize what I want to get across. And in Hosier's case, it's a lot of biblical imagery. It's a lot of mythological imagery, you know, like Greek mythology, Roman mythology. So that connects with me and so many other people, obviously. But the beautiful thing about someone like an Andrew Hosier Byrne is that he takes that mystical, you know, floating a little bit above your head sort of imagery and

and pairs it with a fantastic guitar riff or a fantastic drum beat, an incredible vocal performance. So you don't even have to understand the lyrics. The lyrics are an added bonus to the sonic wonder of his music. So I feel like, you know, from the release of Unreal Unearthed, his album that just came out last year,

It's obviously put him back on the map, but for me, he never left. And I'm so happy because we, I've moved past this point of like, I want to gatekeep my favorite artist. I want everyone to experience what goes on in my head when I listen to him and the way that I connect with him. I obviously everyone has their favorite artists for different reasons and whatever, but I feel like his music has felt a little inaccessible maybe for some people and

But now with Too Sweet being number one and him on tour everywhere. And another thing I love about him is...

he's going to share the stage. You know what I mean? He's going to bring Brittany Howard and all of these sort of up and coming, not to say Brittany Howard's up and coming, but these other up and coming artists that he collaborates with on his albums that he has open for him, Alison Russell, all these people that he is fans of. Who's Madison Cunningham, all these people where it's like real recognized real, but

He understands the importance and the significance of putting someone on, you know, of he brings people up with him. When I saw him in Dublin, which was crazy because it started to rain and I was there with my Irish friend, Emily, and my friend, Katie. And it was so, I was off the edible. It was a religious experience for me because here we are in Ireland and he gives this beautiful speech about,

And it was as he was going in to sing Nina Cried Power, which is a Black Lives Matter song, to be quite frank. And it's sort of this protest anthem. And he goes into talking about it of just how disjointed the world is today and how the Irish people are.

above, you know, so many other groups of people understand the importance of true liberation and of oppression and of, you know, the struggle is not over. And the importance of voting, the importance of protest, the importance of making your voice heard. And he had this beautiful speech. I have chills thinking about it. He had this beautiful speech that

It united, you know, all of these sort of different and then he spoke about free Palestine as well, of course, because they're all sort of pieces of this larger puzzle of oppression and of when enough people gather together and use their voices, both, you know, metaphorically and literally together.

Beautiful things happen and change happens. True change comes from the people and it's grassroots. And he had this beautiful speech and it literally moved me to tears. And it does every single time because he always has these these moments where he's so eloquent and.

It just reminds me that, you know, you can love someone for their artistic worldview. You can love an artist for their performance capabilities. You can love an artist for a multitude of different reasons. But Hosier, to me, is every piece of the puzzle that you could want from a favorite artist. He is amazing.

passionate. He is savant level talented. He's a great performer. He is kind, kind through and through very generous understanding all these things that, you know, you want to feel there's this, this part of fan culture now that didn't always used to be there. Okay. Fan culture used to be, and still is very toxic, very toxic.

And it used to be, I remember this tweet from like 2012 or something like that. It was about Lady Gaga. Love Gaga. But it was this crazy fan account that was like, Lady Gaga could kick a baby and I wouldn't give a fuck. I love that bitch. Like I stan or something like that. And I remember reading that and being like, that's crazy. There are certain artists where people ride for them like that. And back then, you know, it's funny, but it was also this

unabashed, like I will stand by them through thick and thin, whatever. Because I don't know if it's their artistry, if it's their whatever that connected to them in that way that they would literally go through hell and high water for that artist. Now, and correct me if I'm wrong, but this is sort of my take. Now, when you stand someone, there is a pressure that you as the fan place on the object of your stand-dom,

Where it's almost this comparison of you want to prove to yourself that you're a good person by standing a good person. And when that person that you have put on a pedestal disappoints you or reminds you in some feeble way that they are human and they make mistakes and they are trying to figure out life the same way you are.

The fandom turns very quickly and the comment sections are some of the most toxic, disgusting, disturbing things you could ever see. Threats of violence, threats of doxing, threats to these people's families. How did it turn?

That negative. And I want to know when the shift happened. I think it was COVID, honestly. I think if I'm reflecting in my sociological brain, it was definitely COVID where this gap became very evident. You know, when Kim Kardashian rented out an island during COVID for her fucking family, but they didn't have to wear masks. And she went on Twitter.gov talking about how she's so blessed and fortunate to be able to do this. And it just really reminds you to be grateful for what you've

Meanwhile, people are separated from their grandparents who have died from COVID or their parents or their siblings or their friends that they haven't seen in months, almost a year. And here we have never seen more staunch of a wealth gap. Evident, okay? We've always thought it was there. But here, it's like face-to-face and they're being unashamed about it. So I think that's when the shift happened. Also, TikTok culture is just so toxic and weird. There is...

what I was saying, this comparison of, I want to make sure constantly that the way that some people do body checks on TikTok, like, do I still look good? Am I still skinny? Am I still thin? Do people still think I'm attractive and desirable? People do that. It's almost like a wellness check within yourself of, are the people that I look up to and that I idolize,

Are they a reflection of who I want to be? And when those people disappoint me, it's almost this mirror that you are turned back on yourself of how could I have stand someone like that?

I don't know when fan culture became so deeply ingrained in like your identity, you know, that who I am as a person is directly tied to if this fucking TikTok celebrity or this singer votes the way that I vote. You know what I mean? I think that it's important to talk about it because it's fucking important.

weird. It's weird. And while I understand it, of course I understand it. Okay. I am a child of the internet. I'm a child of fan culture. Of course I understand how deeply intertwined your identity can be with the things you love. Don't get me wrong. Of course I understand it. I can also point out from having lived through it and now being a subject of it sometimes how fucking weird it is.

Because you don't know those people. And I know this is a conversation that we keep having in circles, okay? But it feels like it's not connecting. That you can love an artist and love a person for certain qualities they have. And yes, they will disappoint you. And if they haven't disappointed you yet, it's because you don't know that much about them. Because they keep it private, okay? Don't...

For don't ever think that there is one perfect person that is deserving of all the love and all the fandom, all the whatever. You just don't know that much about them.

Yet. You know what I mean? And that's a harsh reality that I think is a mixture of a generation being raised by the internet and a severe lack of being in touch with reality. That these people you idolize are just people at the end of the day. They wipe their ass. And it's a hard lesson to learn when you were raised in celebrity worship culture, where celebrities to you are more important than your day-to-day relationships.

Your relationship with that celebrity is way more important than anything else in your life. And that's just having your priorities out of whack.

And I think we need to talk about it more in a meaningful way that isn't just like, y'all worship celebrities. No, I want to get to the bottom of why. Why do we worship celebrities? It's because we think that the people in our lives have failed us. You know, we know too much about the people in our daily lives. We know their quirks, their flaws. And while they have good qualities, mm,

You're focusing on the bad qualities way too much. But here is this shiny celebrity, okay, that you only see the good things because their image is polished and crafted by a team of probably 30 people who work on their project, work on their image, say what they can and cannot be photographed doing. They don't run their own Instagram account. They don't run their own Twitter account.

These it's all fabricated and we've fallen for it. You know what I mean? I think in the same vein, and now I'm just sort of waxing, you know, philosophical here. The rise of relatable influencers is such a breath of fresh air. And I'm talking about this like I'm not a part of it. You know what I mean? I'm talking about this like a passive observer. I think that influencers are

Have become this breath of fresh air for a lot of people because here's a normal person. Here's a normal person that I just like to watch because either they're entertaining or they're funny or I want to look like them or, you know, I want to hang out with them. I want to be their friend. Okay.

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It's fuck that now. And now it's I want to be so-and-so's friend.

Which is a very sweet turn. It's a very sweet turn that the people we want to give our attention to, because our attention is a form of currency, the people we want to give that to are people that we would want to spend time with in our daily lives. But again, you don't know these people. And the people that you love online, some of them are fucking awful in real life. So the question then is what does a healthy balance of fan support look like?

And I almost wish that like, like I want to call my mom and talk to her about when she grew up loving Prince and Michael Jackson and Stevie Nicks and all these, the monkeys, you know, these people that she loved and,

So what was that relationship like? Because you can buy the merchandise, you can see them live, you can do whatever, you can watch interviews. But was it an idolization? Was it an almost worship? Or was it just, yeah, I love them. I really love their music and I think they're cute. You know, when did it turn? So I think the over saturation of like

access and information about these people changed everything even back to what i was talking about fucking an hour ago with harry styles and one direction the reason people are psychotic about harry styles is because one direction was one of the first we were all like young teenagers online and here we have unadulterated access to anything you would ever want to know about harry styles

We know the hospital he was born in. We know what time he was born. We know his big three. We know his entire astrological chart. We know this. We know that. We know, you know, his sister loves to do that. And his mom used to, his stepdad was, well, at what point is too much, too much? And it's a weird thing to reflect, you know, like as a fangirl, because I am a fangirl to my core. But the older I get, the more I can look back and be like, that was fucking weird. I am weird. I am a weirdo.

And I'm sorry. You know what I mean? I don't know. I just feel like it's so different with, back to Hosier. Here is a person who has a very private life, shares his very vulnerable lyricism with us and then performs it live, is gracious enough to do interviews. And some people just, you know, they don't know when to stop and they take it a bit too far. And

Is that part of it? You know, and this is it brings Chapel Ronan to the question, too, of that bitch makes some points. I'm team chapel. You know, you don't just because you have found this newfound success and love from a fan base doesn't mean you have to accept all the negatives of this culture. And she's threatened. I mean, I completely get it to be like, I'm going to stop making music.

Like I owe money to the label, but this shit is weird and it's invasive and it's disturbing and I don't want to be a part of it.

But then the question is, are you ungrateful? Are you this? Are you that? And why is it seen as being ungrateful when artists come out and are like, I actually don't like that you tweeted where my sister works. That's weird. Why am I getting shit on for talking about how weird that is? Like, it's this brain-rotted take on celebrity culture. And I really hope that the tide shifts soon. And I also hope that cancel culture shifts soon, too. Because then the question is, does cancel culture work?

You know, or is it just this feeding frenzy of everyone wants to be like, I never liked her. I never liked her. She was always a bitch to me. I always, just like, it's exhausting all the time. And it makes people not want to share their art for the right reasons. If people are looking to become famous for the sake of being famous or for the sake of making money, for the sake of signing a record deal, you're doing it for the wrong reasons. And you, that is a, a,

An empty and bottomless well that you will never hear me, never be satisfied. And I think it shows. I mean, these are like soulless people.

And I think Chapel is such a breath of fresh air where she tells photographers and she tells weird fans and she tells people that are so strange about her. And at the end of the day, she's a singer. She is a singer who makes great music and she's an incredible performer. And she's gotten the attention of so many iconic musical legends because she is a great performer and a great singer and a great artist.

At what point in that equation did she agree to be the subject of delirium? You know, to be okay with all the just, that's just Stan culture. That's just, you know what I mean? And I think that it's, she's caught in a lot of flack for defending herself and speaking out against it. And I really hope that this influences this new part of entertainment of people who won't enable that behavior.

And if being rich and famous, you have to deal with the fucking weirdos, I'd rather not be rich and famous. You know what I mean? Like if that is the take, then I get it. I completely understand. It's just so strange. And we don't call it out as being weird enough. We just accept it as part of it. You know? Well, you have to. You're ungrateful.

The fuck I am. I'm grateful for everything. But that doesn't mean that I have to be okay with people calling my fucking parents' house because they Googled our home phone number. Y'all are weird. Anyway, there are types of entertainers who handle it with grace and handle it very well. Hosier being one of them. Harry Styles being probably my most explicit sort of representation of that, of just never speaking an ill word.

Never having an altercation with a paparazzi, never having a negative interaction with a fan, none of it. He has such a squeaky clean image and it's because so many people work on his artist project. So many people. And I love him as a person so much, but understand that

He's signed to a label and he's signed to a management team and all those people are so important in crafting that image that we all know as Harry Styles, you know, and that we all love. And it works and it's great. I think it's just naivete as well, like kids online.

coming on and accepting what they see online as reality and just not questioning it, not whatever, not fact-checking, just taking what they see on TikTok and running with it. Do you know how many comment threads I've opened and been like, I don't like her. And then someone will respond, just about anyone, or I don't like him. And someone will respond and be like, I'm sorry, I'm a little late. What did they do? And then the comments will be like, it was some racist tweet.

And then the other comment will be like, well, what was it? What did it say? And then the original commenter is like, I don't know. I just heard about it. So fuck them. And it's like, anyone can say anything. Anyone can doctor a tweet. It's true. We live in fucking La La Land. We live in La La Land.

And I do feel the need to say, of course, that there are real racists and there are real sexists and real dangerous people who have platforms, okay? People like that who are truly, truly rotted don't deserve a platform. But fabricating things and trying to... Just because either you find them annoying or you don't agree with something that they... It's like...

convincing a whole community of people that this person deserves to die because you think they're annoying is a crazy thing. And then you see crash outs. You see crash outs because these people can't... We're just human at the end of the day. The human psyche is a frail thing. And it's this masochistic game of how far can you push it until they freak out. You know what I mean? It's just sad. It makes me sad because...

I have such fond memories still, I mean, to this day of being a fangirl and the community that you gain from loving the same artist, you know, amongst girls, amongst women, amongst anyone, that it's a shared point of connection. How beautiful is that? That someone's art is something you can connect on with a complete stranger. Wow. How did it turn into this? How did it turn into this weird connection

bullshit that we all have to deal with online. It's just strange. And it makes you not want to share your art anymore. And it makes you want to, you know, shove your head into the sand and disappear. Okay. Sorry for ranting. I love Hosier. I love his art. Okay. Back to the Hosier interview. Yes, yes, yes, yes. When I asked him some of those questions about, you know, God and

the intersection of religion as a man-made institution and then the potential and hopeful existence of a godlike figure, of the universe directing your path and having faith in it, whatever. And he gave such a good answer about acknowledging some of the flaws and abuses within the church of the country he was raised in. You know, the Irish Catholic Church is evil, can be evil.

recognizing that as the flaws of man and wondering where does that leave you at the end of the day with your spiritual walk? And his answer was so good. It was just illuminating. And we balanced it with some references from his past, some funny references and some funny questions and humanizing him. That's the goal that I really prioritize is humanizing some of these people in my show.

Okay, here are three things. I'm done with my rant. Thank you for listening. Here are three things that I've been really into lately that I want to talk to you all about, okay? Number one, there is a station, and it might be just Los Angeles. It might be something else. I don't know. Called K-Mozart. And it just plays. It's an FM radio station. And it just plays classical music. That's all. It's K-Mozart. And I wonder if it's in every city. I mean, every city around like the 89.9 sort of area.

range in the FM spectrum plays classical music. I'm so into that. When was the last time you bitches just let it be quiet? And not this scary quiet of sitting with yourself and being like, who am I? No, no, no. Driving to classical music, cleaning the house to classical music, okay? Working to classical music. It's been so transformative because

It's just a lot, you know? To listen to your favorite artists or try to keep up with what everyone's listening to or this, did you hear the remix dropped of the... Just to sit in the car and not have a single thought in your head is nice. It's nothing to sing along to. It's nothing to, you know? I've enjoyed learning about the different composers and the different artists behind... How many times am I going to say fucking artists in this episode?

the artists behind some of the most famous classical music. Because, of course, we know Beethoven, Mozart, you know, whoever the fuck else. Wagner. One half hour to a half hour. And it's cool to have some of these, like, radio jockeys, disc jockeys, talk about it and the year that it was composed and the reaction to it and if it was scandalous and all this. It's cool. I enjoy it. The second thing is...

National Geographic has a YouTube channel and they post what are called mega episodes that are four hours long.

And it's a combination of like four or five, six different episodes. And the one that I've been obsessed with recently, I've watched it like two, three times, is the treasures of Rome, the treasures of the Roman Empire. Because, and here's the thing, okay, I have so much to talk about and I don't know, I wish, I need to start making Cornell notes before I do these podcasts. Because I always watch them back and I'm like, damn, I should have said this.

The Roman Empire, I think we forget because it's become a meme, right? How many times do you think about the Roman Empire? And these men are lying if they say every day. But when I say it, I'm being for real, okay? The Roman Empire, we forget, lasted for centuries and spread from England to Africa, all the way east to what? Tanzania?

It was massive. And what have we learned about every time an empire rises, it will fall. And there's a very famous series of four paintings called, I think, The Path of Empire, The Course of Empire. God, I'm so smart. The Course of Empire by Thomas Cole. Okay. I love Thomas Cole. Fuck you, bitches. Oh, is it five? Oh, it's five paintings.

Based on his experiences as an observer of historic ruins in Italy, Cole painted what he believed to be the different phases or stages through which virtually all the empires that had emerged in the West over several millennia had passed. It is a fascinating composite work with the particularity of having a very pronounced didactic aspect since any observer can learn something about history simply by looking at it. Okay. And then it goes through all the different, uh,

stages of the course of empire. Please blur that. Thank you. Now, the first time I saw this, I think I saw one in person at some museum. It stunned me. It stunned me. This is an incredible series of paintings, and it's very relevant to what I'm talking about, of

There is a clear path every time a Julius Caesar type character, Nero type character rises of here is someone who thinks himself a god. He thinks himself larger than life, above the law. He structures society around his whims and his worldview and his dogma, okay? I find it very, very interesting.

Because I'm reading this book series called Red Rising that's about, essentially, it's like Hunger Games in space, way in the future. And it's very based on, you know, the idealistic Roman society and how deeply flawed it was. But how, to their core, they thought this is as close to godlike living as

as has ever been conceived. You know, they truly think that there was nothing wrong. And it's so, so interesting. Okay. So it sparked this sort of interest and because a lot of the character names and planets and moons and obviously all of that is based on Greek mythology and Roman mythology and Roman history. So going back and watching some of these National Geographic specials is very fun. And it's very interesting because

I recognize some of the names. And how funny is that, right? Like a lot of us know about Greek mythology from Percy Jackson, from Hercules, from, you know, all these movies and series that have, it's clear that the creators of that IP did their research into Greek mythology, but I don't know jack shit about it. And in fact, it kind of bores me. So how do you go back and experience it in a real life eye-opening way? National Geographic, okay?

So I've been watching these mega episodes about the Roman Empire and about how massive it was, how rule it was, how hedonistic it was. Okay. And there's this one episode. I don't know if it's the one I'm thinking of, but...

They talk about the Colosseum and about the Roman amphitheaters and how the same sort of buildings that you find in Rome or around the immediate city of Rome, even two hours north, three hours east, whatever, there are strikingly similar, almost exact versions in the UK.

And I think I just never really sat down to think about how expansive the Roman Empire was because I don't know that much about it. But learning about it through this lens of it being the oppressive system that it was, where it was either submit or die. OK, you assimilate or die.

And it was amphitheaters built for the soldiers to enjoy. Amphitheaters built for the pleasure of men. And this is the thing about the Colosseum. Okay, let me teach you about the Colosseum. The Colosseum was built by, what's his name? It starts with a V. Roman emperor that built the Colosseum. Vespasian. Vespasian. He built the Colosseum, or I guess commissioned the Colosseum to be built

And the whole structure of when you would enter the Coliseum on the outside, you know, on the arches that go all the way around it, there are numbers above each entrance, similar to like a concert venue today. And you had a ticket that when you go to the Coliseum, you literally had to show your ticket and it would show you where your seat was. You enter.

the immediate, like right around the sand pit, or it would be converted sometimes into, they would fill it with water. Crazy. Okay. And they would have ship fights. They would have, I mean, it was a,

what they could do. It was truly a feat of Roman engineering. And don't even get me started on the aqueducts, okay? Roman aqueducts that still stand, incredible, amazing, amazing. On the immediate seating sort of around that, the emperor had his little box. It was the best view and it was the best spot to be viewed, okay? Listen to me when I say this, the best spot to be viewed because the Colosseum at its core was a show of strength and power. And

And it reminded Romans of the stratified levels of their society and that you stay where you are and I stay where I am. Okay. So around the immediate sand pit where the gladiators would fight, where they would release the animals, where they would have ship fights in the Colosseum.

Nero or whoever the emperor was had his little box immediately behind him, okay? And that like just one level up the hundred section if you will Knights very famous Politicians, you know Friends and and collaborators of the Emperor all men all men never women in the hundred section Okay, 200 section that would be sort of workers. Okay, just your average Roman citizen men and

And then in the very highest sections, nosebleed would be slaves, women, children. Okay. I did not know that it was, it was stratified like that. And it makes complete sense knowing, you know, even the baseline about the Roman empire. And so knowing that that was how the Colosseum was built. Amazing. Okay. Very fucked up. When you think about it, women and children have to be at the very top. Oh, it sucks.

Okay. Then you go under the Colosseum. There are very, very primitive solitary quarters that the gladiators would be kept in, that the sacrifices would be kept in. They would sacrifice Christians to be killed until who was the Constantine? Was he the one that was like, we shall not kill any more Christians. And in fact, everyone's got to be Christian now. Wasn't that Constantine? And then they turned it into Constantinople. Yeah.

Yep, first Roman emperor to convert to Christianity, A.D. 306. Also, did you know that Pompeii happened in A.D. 89? So Colosseum had like just been built when Pompeii happened. Okay, anyway. Oh, okay.

under the Coliseum, right? And this is very baseline knowledge. Go watch any documentary on the Coliseum and it'll tell you all this information, but it's very interesting if you've never heard it before. Under the Coliseum, the gladiator sort of locker room, if you will, there would be special holding pens for some of the animals they would release, as exotic as you can think, from zebras to lions to giraffes to anything. And it would be for sport. They would kill these animals for sport.

And they would be conquests and prizes that they would find from the farthest reaches of the Roman Empire, okay? From Africa to London, whatever. They would bring them all back to the Colosseum or to any of these amphitheaters. There are so many amphitheaters that they would do this in. But the Colosseum is most famous, of course, because it's still standing. A lot of them are buried under dirt and rubble because they're simply 2,000 years old, okay? It's bound to happen.

The Colosseum is just one that's been the most, it's been the most carefully preserved. The Colosseum, okay, underneath, there are ramps that have also been filled in and they would use these ramps to bring the animals into the Colosseum, into the fighting floor.

They would have posts that they would strap some of the sacrificial people to. Not funny. I'm just saying like a crazy, crazy that an engineer had to sit there and be like, okay, yes, and this is the post that we'll tie the fucking Christian to and then the lion will eat him. Crazy that the emperor's like, and you, sir, are going to figure out how to get this fucking giraffe into the Coliseum or I'm going to kill you. Crazy. Okay? That's the Coliseum. You can take a tour of it. Crazy.

Now, do you know how half of the Colosseum is, it looks like it's at a slope and that's kind of the famous shape of it is it's stood upright on one side and then it slopes off into another and it looks like it's been added on. It's because that marble or that stone that they used to build the Colosseum later on, and I'll have to look up the specifics, people would steal it

To go make other stuff with it because the Colosseum was out of commission. It was old. No one. It was just this eyesore in the middle of Rome. They would go and hack pieces of the marble off and use it to make other stuff. How crazy is that? Let's see. Let's see what that was all about.

From the 14th to the 19th century, people continued to pillage the Colosseum of its bare materials. Stone was stripped from the amphitheater's interior, and the bronze clamps, which held bits of stone together, were hacked off the walls, leaving scars which are still visible today.

So it lost its stone due to a number of things. Oh my God, earthquakes as well. Earthquakes are a huge part of Roman history because so many... When you talk about the seven wonders of the world, the ancient wonders, one of them is that statue that stands over...

I feel like my grandmother when I'm trying to tell something. I'm like, it was a guy who was on that lake. Oh, God, what was his name? And he died. He died. And there was an earthquake and killed everybody. And now all you can see is feet. I mean, like, Mimi, what are you talking about? One time Mimi asked me, she said, how's your friend? I said, which friend, Mimi? She said, Malone. How's Malone, your friend Malone?

Are you talking about Post Malone? Yeah, how is he? Post Malone, you know what? He's good. Post Malone is great, Mimi. Thank you for asking. He misses you. What, Mimi? Let me Google. Seven wonders of the ancient world. Colossus of Rhodes. There we go. A statue of the Greek god Helios that stood for 56 years before being destroyed by an earthquake. Colossus of Rhodes.

Oh, crazy. Yeah, this is like a reimagination of what it must have looked like. And so when you've sailed into this harbor, you had to go under his gooch. Okay, you had to go through his gooch. You had to go through his open legs. Check that shit out. How do you even build that?

Okay, this is a reimagination of what the Colossus of Rhodes looked like, okay? This, again, was destroyed by earthquakes. Earthquakes were massive in this area. I'm not sure why. Actually, let me think about it for more than five minutes. Lots of volcanic activity, lots of tectonic plate movement. Italy must be on a fault line somewhere. I don't know, but it was massive. Okay, so other reasons the Colosseum lost stone.

The Colosseum has been damaged by earthquakes throughout its history, including a major earthquake in 1349 that caused the collapse of the South Side. The Colosseum's foundations are especially vulnerable to seismic damage because the South Side rests on waterlogged sediment, which amplifies seismic shocks. Now that is tea, okay? The Colosseum was plundered from the 14th and 19th century. Like I said, they pillaged it. The stone was reused in other buildings, such as palaces, churches, and hospitals.

The Colosseum has also suffered from general deterioration and pollution over time. The Colosseum was originally covered in marble, but much of it was removed over the centuries and used in other buildings. Some marble still remains on the top tier. Today, only about one third of the Colosseum remains. However, the Colosseum is constantly monitored and reinforced with modern methods and is safe to walk in.

Crazy, very, very crazy. So interesting to me. And so they're finding this National Geographic show I was watching, they're finding and uncovering with archaeology teams, some amphitheaters that are popping up all over what used to be the Roman Empire, which is all over Europe, even parts of Africa. So very interesting to me. Another thing that I wanted to highlight is in, not Roman at all, but in Renaissance Europe,

Androgyny was actually the peak beauty standard. It was considered divine, okay? I just wanted to bring that up. I thought that was very interesting. So when Michelangelo, when Da Vinci, when all of these incredibly famous Renaissance artists are painting, you know when you look at a Renaissance painting sometimes and you're like, is that girl or boy? I don't know if that's girl or boy. That was on purpose. And...

A lot of these artists were gay, and they kept young boys around them as their assistants, as their muses, as their models. And for that reason, a lot of the figures in Renaissance paintings are, they have this androgynous, youthful look.

kind of boyish charm to them, you know, where it's the long wavy hair and the features are not distinctive in any one way. And I always noticed that and I wondered why. And I just figured, oh, well, a lot of these painters just use the models around them, which happened to be young men because not a lot, women couldn't really be sculptors. Women couldn't really be, you know, artists. They weren't commissioned by the church. They

I always just figured that was the case. But come to find out, androgyny was a desired attribute. So interesting to know about that. And I think it's very interesting, too, as we see beauty cycles, you know, beauty trends are cyclical in nature. What was popular in the 80s came back in like 2009. What was popular in the 60s, 70s came back, you know, a few years later. So it's all these like 90s grunge came back in 2014, 2015.

It's very cyclical. And I think that it's honestly very cute. So beauty trends are cyclical in that way. But also during the Renaissance and during, I want to say like

1300s to like 1600s. Actually, let me Google it. Okay, this is something that if you've never heard of this, very interesting. Where are my big forehead bitches? Where are my big forehead bitches? Five heads in the chat, W's in the chat for the five heads. People have been plucking their forehead hairs since the medieval period, okay?

Women would pluck their foreheads to achieve a high forehead which was considered especially beautiful. This was especially common among well-born European women in the late 15th century. Highborn women would tweeze their hair and wear wigs in ancient Egypt. They also used substances made from lemon, sugar, or beeswax to remove hair from larger areas. Ancient Rome, both men and women were expected to be hairless and use tweezers or razors like objects made from stones.

Even into the early 1900s, Gillette created the first razor for women, the Milady Decolleté in 1915. Depilatory cream ads also became popular during this time.

So it's always been, not always, but I don't know when the shift was from high foreheads used to be a symbol of beauty to now it's, you got a big fucking forehead, girl. Hook noses also, even something like what's called the Roman nose, like just a strong nose, noses with bumps in them right here. This is what I'm always going to preach this on this podcast. The way you look and the features you have are a result of generations of people

attraction and a shared affinity for those facial features and for those body types. Do you know what I mean? And that's not the case in every fucking, you know what I mean? Have some nuance, have some nuance in these conversations, please. But it remains to be said that these beauty standards and these things that we are taught to hate about ourselves make us unique. They make you unique. And if you change your face,

Your life is your life, okay? But if you change your face, you lose your uniqueness and you lose those qualities that connect you to everyone that came before you, your family lineage. You know, you may have the same nose as your grandmother or the same forehead as your great-grandfather. It's like these things are what make us so human and they date back thousands of years. Why would you want to get rid of that? That's my take, okay? Do what you want to do with your body, but...

My take is that the more you learn about history in this way, and when you can pinpoint when women were taught to start removing facial hair, body hair, to start, you know, squeezing their waist as tiny as they could get them, those things, it's like it makes you resent ever wanting to do that because I'm not a Barbie doll. I'm a human. And if those same things are not placed on men, why do I have to do it? So...

Okay, so as I continue to sort of dive deep into the Roman Empire, I'll keep you guys updated because this shit is crazy. Roman bathhouses, if you've never been into that, look into that shit. That shit was nutso. The way they used to bathe themselves, they had these tools. Before you go into a bathhouse, okay, which are heated from the floor, it's like these big saunas with these, like,

fire and they would make it out of copper so it was heated. And then it was, some of them were luxurious, some of them fucking stunk. Like the marble on the wall, if you were in a rich bathhouse, would be painted. They'd have statues, snacks, servants, whatever, okay? Crazy. Before you would enter a bathhouse, you would exercise to work up a sweat. Then you would put oil on your body, okay? Then they had these

devices that looks a bit like a butter knife almost, like a curved butter knife, and you would scrape the oil and sweat off of you before you get into the bath. How interesting is that? Okay, that's how they used to bathe. Now, did they stink? God, yeah. I bet it smelled like ass up in there. Bad. Down. Ass house. Roman ass houses.

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