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The Menendez Brothers (with Jesse Weber)

2024/10/18
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Elie Honig: 本集深入探讨了梅内德兹兄弟案,该案发生于1989年,审判持续到90年代,最近因Netflix纪录片和社会媒体的关注而再次成为焦点。案件涉及两兄弟因杀害父母被判一级谋杀罪。Honig回顾了案件的背景,并对案件中涉及的法律问题,特别是关于不完全自卫和性虐待证据的讨论进行了分析。他认为,虽然兄弟俩可能遭受了虐待,但这并不构成他们杀害父母的法律辩护,因为缺乏迫在眉睫的危险。他还讨论了第二次审判中排除大部分性虐待证据的决定,以及该决定是否构成错误。最后,他探讨了新的证据以及这些证据是否足以推翻兄弟俩的定罪。 Jesse Weber: Weber详细介绍了梅内德兹兄弟案的经过,包括1989年父母被杀害的事件,兄弟俩随后的挥霍行为,以及埃里克向治疗师坦白杀害父母的经过。他解释了兄弟俩在第一次审判中提出的不完全自卫抗辩,以及陪审团无法达成一致意见的原因。他还描述了第二次审判中性虐待证据被排除的情况,以及兄弟俩最终被判一级谋杀罪。Weber还讨论了最近出现的新的证据,包括埃里克写给表哥的信件和梅努多乐队成员的证词,这些证据进一步支持了兄弟俩遭受虐待的说法。他分析了这些新证据对案件的影响,以及它们是否足以推翻兄弟俩的定罪。他认为,虽然同情兄弟俩的遭遇,但法律上很难证明他们的行为不是谋杀。 Elie Honig: Honig详细分析了梅内德兹兄弟案中不完全自卫抗辩的法律问题。他指出,持续的性虐待并不一定构成迫在眉睫的危险,而且母亲并未直接参与虐待,这使得兄弟俩很难满足自卫抗辩的条件。他还讨论了在第二次审判中,法官正确地排除了不完全自卫的抗辩,因为缺乏迫在眉睫的危险。他认为,即使兄弟俩遭受了虐待,但这并不构成他们杀害父母的法律辩护。他强调,法律上需要区分同情与法律要求,以及滥用证据可能造成的危险。 Jesse Weber: Weber对梅内德兹兄弟案的法律和事实方面进行了全面的分析。他讨论了第一次审判中陪审团无法达成一致意见的原因,以及第二次审判中性虐待证据被排除的影响。他认为,即使新的证据支持兄弟俩遭受虐待的说法,这并不一定意味着他们的行为不是谋杀。他解释了为什么即使兄弟俩遭受了虐待,他们仍然可能被判犯有谋杀罪,因为他们有时间逃离危险,并且他们的行为是预谋的。他认为,虽然兄弟俩可能遭受了虐待,但这并不构成他们杀害父母的法律辩护。

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The discussion delves into the Menendez brothers' case, focusing on their claim of imperfect self-defense and the challenges they faced in presenting their defense during the trials.
  • The Menendez brothers were convicted of first-degree murder for killing their parents.
  • They argued imperfect self-defense, claiming they believed their lives were in imminent danger due to alleged sexual abuse by their father.
  • The first trial resulted in hung juries, but the second trial excluded much of the abuse evidence, leading to convictions.

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On a special episode of Stay Tuned in Brief, Jesse Weber, anchor and host at the Law & Crime Network, joins former federal prosecutor Elie Honig to discuss the criminal cases of brothers Lyle and Erik Menendez, who were convicted of first-degree murder in the ‘90s for killing their parents. Did they have a legitimate claim of imperfect self-defense based on imminent danger? Should evidence of sexual abuse been fully admissible? And should the emergence of new evidence prompt a reevaluation of the convictions? 

This conversation is part of a new series of episodes that will be exclusively for members of CAFE Insider. Each week, Elie Honig and special guests will tackle one major legal or policy issue, helping you stay informed. To become a member of CAFE Insider and never miss new episodes head to cafe.com/insiderpod). You’ll get access to two full episodes of the podcast each week and other exclusive content.

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