“The Democrats Have FIXED The Election - VOTE FOR TRUMP!” RFK On Rescuing American Democracy – SF472
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Hello there, you awakening wonders. Thanks for joining me for a very special Friday edition of Stay Free with Russell Brand. We've got a brilliant conversation with RFK Bobby Kennedy, the man who's changed the complexion of the election. How can you maintain the vote for the Democratic Party is anything other than a vote for the establishment now that Tulsi Gabbard and

Bobby Kennedy have joined the Trump campaign. Let me know in the comments and chat if you agree with me that this is an opportunity to disrupt the bizarre teleology of the beast, the serpent that has its sights set upon the whole world, this odd creature, this peculiar entity that seems set to devour us all. What's it going to take to oppose it? Unique alliances. And we want you to be a part of that unique alliance. That's why we are launching Break Bread with Russell Brand. That's starting

in from the week of the 18th, a live conversation on Locals that you will love, where we're going to pray together, meditate together, ask the difficult questions about God and ask the difficult questions about revolution and revelation. Simultaneously, the first episode available for Awaken Wonders is with Tucker

Carlson. You're going to love that conversation. It's absolutely magnificent, fantastic. You are going to enjoy his tucker like you've never seen him before. And remember, our conversation with Jordan Peterson is up now. This is Friday. You can go and look. Don't do it now. Watch this show. It's fantastic. Bobby Kennedy's coming up in a minute. But you can see me and Jordan Peterson talking about Christ, Christianity, and what the arc

archetypes are behind this current moment where wherever you are in the world there appears to be a conflict between nationalism and globalism is it possible for nationalism to become inclusive is it possible that it could become the fulcrum of new conditions of subsidiarity where we have new broken down i don't want to say soviets that's not a good word communities that are fully autonomous self-governing through electoral democracy can we change the world together and are we

at a pivotal moment. Let me know what you think in the comments and chat. For the first 15 minutes, we're going to be available on YouTube, but we can't stay there, for it is one of the heads of the beast. If you studied Revelations hard enough, you'd see the word alphabet or Google or YouTube in there somewhere. For these omniscient...

omnipotent organisations that censor and surveil according to their agenda are very much a part of the challenge that we are facing together. I've got a few things that I want to pick up on. Did you see Joe Rogan and Callie Means talking about the trivialisation of this election campaign when it's obviously super significant? Let me know what you think about this in the Awaken Wonder chat. Let me know if you're watching us on Rumble right now. Even if you're watching us on YouTube, where you better turn on the notification bell, or else you just won't know what we're doing. You've got to let me know

what you think about the trivialization of this election and the constant recourse to the idea that somehow what we're dealing with is a Nazi Donald Trump. Is that what nationalism means these days? A return to fascism and nationalism? Let me know in the chat. Is it possible to love your country and not be a racist? Is it possible that people from a variety of cultures and racial backgrounds can come together to oppose globalization? That is the question that I believe we're being asked in this, excuse me, in this election. And my prayer is that it is possible, of course,

That's why we're devoted to having conversations that educate us. That's why we're doing the Oracle series that's only available on Locals. Episode one, we talked about the pandemic with brilliant experts like Robert Malone and Pierre Corey. And episode two, Mike Benz got together with Kim Aronoff.

Iverson and Max Blumenthal to talk about the nature of the state and the deep state, excuse me, and war. You will love that conversation. There's a link in the description telling you how you can watch that Oracle season right now. But first of all, let's have a look at this. The trivialization and the accusations of Nazism that have surrounded Trump since he came down the old golden escalator. Is it true? Is he a fascist? Is he a retro Hitler or

Or is he really a bull in the china shop of globalism, preventing them from pursuing their agenda? I'm still trying to work it out myself in the midst of a hurricane. We have long known that Donald Trump has revered the Nazis. He has revered Hitler. Revered them? Revered them? I wonder what the claim is there. Like what the basis for that claim is. Like to revere the Nazis.

There's no way you can revere the Nazis. It was a dismal, dismal, murderous and insane project. He's read his book. He used to say he had it on his nightstand. Donald Trump has had a very sinister philosophy, wanting to be a dictator, absolutely dividing people up based on who they are, based on factors about them that have to do with their race in their gender, etc. And when he uses language like this, I don't think that it's a Freudian slip.

I think that the danger of a Donald Trump is that he would absolutely try to exterminate an entire group of people because he thinks that their genes are somehow different than his and faulty. And I say this with all the sternness that you hear in my voice.

That's so weird. They've gone so far with that idea. What has he done? That's so mad. Did he say that? Has he actually said that? It's so extraordinary. On one hand, there's the absolute trivialisation of this election campaign. Mad little anecdotes, stupid, dumb stories. And on the other hand, there's this kind of reprehensible escalation of the threat of ultimately an independent libertarian politician couched within the post-Tea Party Republican movement, forming alliances with other independents like Tulsi Gabbard and Bob

be Kennedy, which is obviously a disruption to the bureaucratic globalism that's been defining politics from Clinton onwards or Blair onwards in my country that was not interrupted by a Bush administration or successive conservative governments in my country. That's what the Uniparty means. That's what globalism means. That's what globalism was. But that's just what I

think why don't you let me know what you think in the comments and chat remember if you're still watching us on youtube turn on that notification bell there's no way you'll get access to this content otherwise just to give you a point around the trivialization of this thing this is a moment on colbert you surely saw it the other day where uh colbert where they sort of try and act like they're sort of gun toting guys when you first became the nominee and uh and named tim walls as your

Oh yeah, this is the bit where they're sort of talking about beer and stuff, but yeah, have you heard some of the crazy stuff? "I've got a gun, I drink beer." Your vice president, uh, nominee, uh, people are calling it the vibe election. Everybody, all the vibes were all good. But elections, I think, are won on vibes because one of the old saws is, "I, they just want somebody they can have a beer with." Uh-huh. So would, would you like to have a beer with me so I can tell people what that's like? Ugh! Ugh! Filthy propaganda! Okay.

Don't do it! Don't do it! Think of your integrity. Think of the middle class girl that you once were with aspirations and ideals. Think about God. Think about truth. Don't pretend to have a beer with Stephen Colbert.

This was...

Now, we asked ahead of time, because I can't just be giving a drink to the Vice President of the United States without asking. You asked for Miller High Life. You were at Miller High Life.

What do you think we should have? Say Miller High Life because it's appealing to this blue collar Democrat. I'm just curious. Okay, the last time I had... Oh no, she can't open it. I hope she's not like that with that handgun she's revealed she owns on Oprah. Wait a minute, I'll shoot you right out of the coconut! Beer was at a baseball game with Doug. Okay, so cheers. There you go.

Now I can do this, I can be normal. This is... I'll just have a drinky of the old normalcy. Here we go, I'm a regular person, I can bloody well do this. Put that in there.

Go baseball! That's just a regular presidential candidate there. Meanwhile, Donald Trump's being accused of being a Nazi. Meanwhile, we hover on the precipice through giddy brinkmanship, teetering on a preposterous apocalypse. Ooh, that tastes like the beautiful city of Milwaukee, Wisconsin. The champagne of beers. There you go.

What a terrifying spectacle it is indeed. A spectacle is the right word. You'll be familiar, of course, with the work of Guy Debord, who said that what we're living in is a set of illusions anymore. You can't feel reality or truth. You can't feel a visceral or spiritual truth because they're masking that. They're changing it. Here's a conversation between Callie Means and Joe Rogan. This is all before we get to Bobby Kennedy, by the way. This conversation with RFK is amazing because I believe what I love about RFK

This is authentic. Have a look at this conversation between Callie Means, who's done more than anyone to help us understand the horrors of big food and how big food, in a sense, tees you up for big pharma, and Joe Rogan, who's done more for independent media than Joe Rogan. Anyway, in this conversation between these two, I would argue, brilliant men, we get an insight into the trivialisation of

of the electoral campaign while we hover dangerously close to personal and maybe even global death. Trump wants this to be a generational issue for him. And I just want to say something. I think we're at a big moment here. We're debating trivia. I think the two most existential issues are nuclear war or what's happening to our health. And whatever you think, and I used to be a never-Trumper.

watching him care about this issue, watching what's happening with the RFK, watching what's happening of how that's resonating with voters. I posted the other day on X how many people have never, never dreamed they would vote Republican are considering it just because of the fear and threat of globalism and because of the mad masquerade we're watching unfold. What the hell happened with Joe Biden? What's he doing now? How did Kamala Harris become the candidate? What's going on?

with Nancy Pelosi? How's she making all of this money? What is Tim Walz? What is he even? Why does he look like that? They can't form another government, can they? Of course they can't. The reason that they seem so peculiarly powerless, odd vassals and empty ciphers is because the power is coming from somewhere else. You recognise that, don't you? You know that this is...

Spiritual warfare. It's not the first time you've heard that phrase. You're hearing it all over the place, aren't you? You're sensing it yourself. You're feeling it. Let me tell you live from the middle of a hurricane before we get into this RFK interview that this is a spiritual moment. This is an opportunity, I believe, to change course. I'm not saying...

that Bobby Kennedy and Tulsi Gabbard and Donald Trump, J.D. Vance, Vivek Ramaswamy are going to bring anything like perfection. But at least there are people that are explicit and open, believe in free speech, care about health and generally speaking are anti-war. And I pray that it can become total anti-war as the total policy for that new movement. It's got to be better than the sort of sub three, like the free letter agencies below them, FBI, CIA,

They're not going to be marshaled, reined in under a Kamala Harris presidency. And the bizarre bureaucracies above them, I'm talking about globalist bureaucracies, specifically NATO, WHO, WF. They're not going to be opposed by that Democratic Party movement. Think about the pandemic. They're part of the confluence of that funnel of dark power. That's what I just that's just what I think, though, of course. Let me know what you think in the comments and the chat. Seeing Smalley, you know, from my small vantage point inside, there is tremendous uncertainty.

connection of these two men and moral clarity of seeing what's happening. And my question is this, and to anyone kind of considering voting in this election, Trump is going to say stupid shit. He is Trump. We know who he is. There's two important questions to ask. Who sees this corruption and institutional capture that's going to destroy our country, I think, to an existential level?

And who is willing to suffer that blowback? Who is willing to go up against these military industrial complex, the healthcare industrial complex, the education industrial complex that's making us a non-competitive? Like they are ready. Who is going to appoint? This is a question I have. Who do we believe is going to appoint people like RFK, people like Elon Musk to stir stuff up?

Who is going to do that? Like that to me is the foundational question. And I do consider this the most important election of my lifetime watching these two men because it is so genuine. And there is like a genuine desire to truly transform, to see our broken corruption and institutions for what it is. And really, truly, I think prevent nuclear war and dramatically reverse the

our health crisis. Trump has said that his one big mistake last time was personnel, was that the pharma and the ag slithered in and gave him the list of names. Everybody should ask, do you think RFK is going to have an influence on those names based on what Trump has said?

And I think he is. And I think people like Elon are going to be involved. I think there's this coalition of people that are coming together and Trump's going to put in power and listen to. And this is a bipartisan issue. And no matter what happens, we have to solve this issue. But I will say this so clearly with the most conviction I can. We will win.

be on the verge, I think, of a health population collapse, societally destabilizing event, unless true executive leadership sees this corruption and this issue for what it is, and

and says we need a radical transformation in how we see agriculture and how we see health, our two largest industries. I think we have to have that. And every single member of Congress I meet with, including Democrats, say that in order for this issue to get done, we need a president to make this the priority to talk because that gives us air cover and there could be transformational change if a president does that. So that's what I've seen from being in this. And I can tell you, President Trump has kept every promise to RFK.

and deeply cares about this issue. - Well, that just seems like common sense, doesn't it? A matter of prioritization on the brink of war, you need to reevaluate and reassess your position and your conditions.

I believe this is a pivotal moment. I believe this is a pivotal moment for all of us individually and, of course, for us collectively. And as I've said many times, the reason that I feel optimistic about this election, more than I have for a long while really, is precisely because Bobby Kennedy is someone that I know personally. I know him to be authentic, a man of integrity. And I can tell you this, if the Democratic Party hadn't become a hollowed-out vassal for corporatist, globalist and deep state power, they would have made that decision

dude, their nominee. That's what he wanted. He was an anti-establishment candidate like Bernie Sanders was way back in 2016. I know, I can hear you. I don't even need to read the comments, although I appreciate you getting into those comments. I really do. You better believe that. What I'm telling you is,

Anti-establishment, anti-big business, anti-corporatism, anti-globalist candidates can come from all over the place. As long as they're not talking about centralising the power of the state, facilitating the power of corporatism to the degree where it becomes globalised,

globalist power, i.e. corporations are transcendent and big enough to maneuver and control whole nations. And if you want an example of that, look at the Ukraine-Russia war and look at who's benefiting from that. Look at Halliburton's role in it. Look at BlackRock's role in it. Look at where power might truly lie. If you want to oppose that, you've got to start thinking independently. If you want to oppose that, you've got to start thinking spiritually. But that's just why I think, why don't you let me know what you think in the

comments and chat. If you're watching this on YouTube, turn on the notification bell. It's the only way they're ever going to let you know that we're here because they're part of this globalist machine. That's why there's any antitrust lawsuits going on all over the place. They have to strangle true free voices and thinkers like you. Okay, guys. Now, I'm so excited to introduce our guest today.

Bobby Kennedy, I believe, has the power to change the course of history, certainly when it comes to this election. And this is the most candid conversation I've ever had with him. You will enjoy it. Stay with us to the very end. See you in a second. Bobby, thanks so much for joining me for Stay Free with Russell Brand. I'm so happy to be here with you, Russell, as always. I want to thank you personally, I suppose, because I'm convinced that we are in a pivotal moment.

That totalitarianism now is veiled and more dangerous than it has ever been. I've been speaking about it a lot. That the bureaucracy indicated by, say, Kafka or Huxley and most obviously Orwell is being augured and introduced. That the continual threat that we are presented with by we, I mean people who consume media, is that we have to be wise and aware of the militaristic dictator, strongman archetype emerging and

seizing a stranglehold over an enthralled population beleaguered by charisma. But I've felt for a while that there's this banalization, this bureaucratization of culture, this desacralization about like a person with a cultural background that I come from, a person that's like,

you know, love Martin Luther King or Gandhi or Malcolm X. And even people that I'm so struggled to put in the inventory, knowing some of the people that will be watching this Che Guevara. I know, I know, I know like all of the people, all the people that get iconoclastically attacked for their obvious and many failings, but nevertheless somehow represent rebellion and standing up to the establishment. It's been very hard for me to sort of learn over time that this is a very important and significant moment.

election, when you were running as an independent, it was clear you were making a great impact for the many, many people that feel that the nationalistic aspects of the MAGA campaign were off-putting, even though I personally can understand why nationalism would be a response to globalism. It's pretty obvious why that would be the case.

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You joining Trump's campaign, supporting Trump, overcoming the many evident and

Moses propose obvious differences has meant that I now know what my Junior and peripheral role is is to advocate for an anti-establishment movement that has a chance to disrupt something that I feel that if remain if it were to remain uninterrupted could bring about an unprecedented level of control and

What kind of personal challenges have you faced in making this movement? And what now is your message to the many, many people across America, if polls are to be believed, that supported your independent candidacy? Yeah, let me begin by just commenting on something that has puzzled me because my whole generation...

grew up reading Aldous Huxley and George Orwell and Arthur Kessler and Solzhenitsyn and Robert Heinlein and all these other, I would call them almost philosophers or political philosophers, who were warning us about the advent of this kind of system, that this would happen one day. And we all looked at that and said, yeah, maybe in 200 years or something like that.

But that generation that grew up with me, the baby boom generation, who are very well educated, is before we discontinued civics lessons in American classrooms. We all grew up reading that. We know better. And the extraordinary phenomena to me is how the capacity for critical thinking has been so...

overwhelmed and subverted in that entire generation that they are that they're not seeing any of this stuff happen they went around along with covid which was just this looked like in many ways a psyops program with orchestrated fear using to disable the capacity for critical thought and then now those same mechanisms are being used to

to get them to support Kamala Harris, a person who was not elected, to get them to ignore the fact that the Democratic Party abandoned elections. There was a palace coup against Joe Biden. First of all, Joe Biden's group disabled the elections to make sure that people like myself could not run against him, so there was no Democratic primaries.

And then the kind of faux election that took place, of course, he won all the primaries because they had fixed them in very, very obvious and undeniable ways. But then he then had a palace coup against him. And Kamala was put in there without any pretense that she was ever elected. And yet the Democrats are able to tell themselves that they are

destroying or abandoning democracy in order to save it from the much greater threat, which is Donald Trump. And people who support Kamala Harris rarely do it because they support any of her policies, which are still unknown. She's never been forced to articulate them. They're supporting her because of the terror of Donald Trump.

And this is, you know, that he is going to become a dictator. It will be the end of democracy that, you know, the republic will be destroyed if he gets in there. You see this again and again and again. And it's created this atmosphere of kind of violence against him. But also there's this extraordinary phenomenon where Democrats have walked away from their core values, which were when I grew up.

And the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party was the party of civil rights, of constitutional rights, freedom of speech. The word liberal is derived from a term meaning freedom of speech. My uncle, my father loved the fact that our country was not scared of debate, that the policies that we embraced were policies that had been annealed in the furnace of debate and then triumphed in the marketplace of ideas today.

We were the party, the anti-war party, and my father ran against the Vietnam War. My uncle said that John F. Kennedy said that the principal job of a president of the United States is to keep the country out of war. His term in office was one of the first time in modern history that we never sent anybody, a combat veteran, a combat troop abroad to fight war.

He resisted his military industrial complex and intelligence apparatus, their pleadings, that he go into Laos in 1961, that he go into Cuba in 1961, that he go into Berlin in 1962, checkpoint Charlie crisis, that he go into Berlin in 63, or that he send combat troops to Vietnam, which he refused to do. And this was the history of the Democratic Party. We were the anti-war party.

And now we are the party of war. It is the Democratic Party that created the Ukraine conflict, which is a war that should have never happened. And where now you have this weird situation where Dick Cheney, who was the greatest villain to the Democratic Party, he was the guy who gave us the Patriot Act. He gave us the torture regime. He gave us extraordinary renditions. He gave us the

the censorship and surveillance state that came out of the Patriot Act. And he gave us the Iraq War, which was a war that was built on deception and pretense. Everybody knows that now. We said we'd never do that again. And it was the worst foreign policy cataclysm in American history. And now Dick Cheney and John Bolton, the people who gave us that, have endorsed Kamala Harris.

And 225 other neocons have the people who were driven out of Washington because, you know, because they were so discredited after Iraq have now endorsed Vice President Harris. And they're not endorsing her because they've changed. They still think all those were good ideas. They are endorsing her because the Democratic Party has fundamentally changed. That party has become corrupt.

The party, which when I was growing up, it was the party of cops, firefighters, labor unions. It was the party that stood up for little people, working people. And the Republican Party was the party of the rich. And today, it's the opposite. It's absolutely an aversion. The Democratic Party has become the party of big tech, big ag, big pharma companies.

Big bankers, big Wall Street, the military industrial complex. And in fact, the inversion is so stark that in 2020, roughly half the people in this country voted for Republican and a half Democrat. The half voted Republican own only 70 percent of the wealth in this or 30 percent of the wealth with half that voted Democrat own 70 percent of the wealth. Oh, you've had this complete inversion, the Democratic Party and Democrats.

A lot of it, and the alliance now between the Democratic Party and the intelligence agencies is something that I could have never believed would happen. I think you had 50 CIA agents endorsing Vice President Biden two weeks ago, and she gave a very belligerent imperium speech at the

at the Democratic Convention calling for U.S. hegemony around the globe, which is completely on Democratic impulses. She was preceded immediately in her speech by a former CIA director, Leon Panetta, who spoke before, and that is something that could have never happened at the Democratic Convention. You had military generals speaking at that convention. Oh, it's become the party of the neocons, and a lot of that, I think...

If you ask individual Democrats who are my friends, people I grew up with, family members, do you think, you know, the Democratic Party is doing these things? They will not answer the question. They'll just say, yes, but Trump. Yes, but, you know, we got to stop Trump at any cost, at any cost. And it's very disarming. It's very troubling to see people who are rational people you've known your whole life

who are now embracing these ideas that we would have called fascistic. The term fascism means a merger of state and corporate power. And that seems to be the general theme of the Democratic Party. And I'll just say one other thing. I love what you said about

nationalism being a rational response to globalism. And I think that's absolutely, and you're seeing this, you know, populism now around the world. And I think populism is a good thing. It can be a bad thing too. And, you know, my father was a populist and populism has...

Two potentials. One is a very idealistic potential, like my father demonstrated. And the other is, you know, populist movement can be hijacked by demagogues and be used to serve very, very dark purposes. But it's a natural response to the globalism that's happening because people want local control and local democracy. And they feel that.

at their decision, their sovereignty is being taken away from them. And we're seeing now, you know, in Europe has changed dramatically. There is no freedom of speech in Europe anymore. We saw the head of Telegram, Pavlo Derov, torn out of his airplane when he stopped to refuel in France. And, you know, Thierry Breton,

who's the chairman of the European Commission, threatening Elon Musk that if he interviewed Donald Trump live on X spaces, that he would be prosecuted criminally and civilly. We saw three weeks ago Brazil

censor Twitter and censor a lot of other social media sites. So you're seeing this rise of censorship of totalitarianism all around the world. And, you know, I'm just, I think the only hope for to prevent that in this country is Donald Trump. If Kamala gets in there, this is what's going to happen.

It is indeed a global phenomenon, transcendent of national sovereignty. Our country is at a different inflection point in the United Kingdom. I mean by that having just elected Keir Starmer, another authoritarian bureaucrat, fancy that, who is similarly governing in a

banalizing way advocating for war somehow a kind of unperson transparent only in so much as there's nothing there not from clarity of ideas uh legislator moral clarity i mean the the blatant freebies that he's taking from you know from wealthy classes and when when when he's

imposing austerity on the rest of Britain and predicting that the economy is not going to get better any time in the near future. Extraordinary things. Stephanie, what I want to say is that the reason there is a plasticity and mutability around the principles is precisely because there's nothing to prevent that. There is no skeletal structure undergirding it that would be required in an idealistic movement. Now, the reason I mentioned at the beginning of this, I believe I did all well, Huxley,

Kafka et al. is precisely to acknowledge that we are facing something darker than two political movements opposing one another. But a type of spiritual warfare is what I would like to allude to. And a lot of people, I think, are suffering from a degree of vertigo from this vacillating changes we're all being forced to

undertake in order to augur something sensible to oppose this gargantuan beast slouching towards us now with its thick and heavy thighs, Robert. Now, what concerns me is that, at least initially, what it appears that we're dealing with is an alliance between four mavericks, all of them in their own way flawed, being human. You...

A brilliant and magnificent man. And I've said it's you that has acted upon me as the agent of change that has made me recognize that in order to oppose establishment power, I have to have a different perspective on Trump and the MAGA movement, which I'd already become accustomed to, to a degree, because, you know, I hate I hate snobbery. I hate it.

I hate haughtiness and superciliousness in particular to working people because even though I didn't have a great time growing up, that's where I come from. And when people talk about baskets of deplorables and speak condemnatory language about ordinary working people, they're talking about the people that I grew up with. And I've watched it over years, the stranglehold, and I've seen this sort of the reflux,

induced by that esophageal grip in the form first of brexit and the rise of trump two simultaneous events that amounted to the sort of belching out and shirking off of the imposition of authoritarianism you say about populism and i too believe that a kind of an engagement of the

a revivification of politics, a libidinization of people is precisely what's being felt and formed and opposed. You know, you, Tulsi Gabbard, Elon Musk, Trump, this peculiar quadrant that I feel has to be framed and enshrined and presented to the electorate as the alternative to this sterile and sterilizing project that we're being understated

to vote for maybe like a quartet of mavericks

And you could see from the way that you're being treated in the media, it's hard, I think, with Tulsi Gabbard, war veteran, so dignified and elegant. You know, Trump, my God, he provides them with so much raw material, doesn't he? Elon Musk, another unusual maverick. But you, precisely the kind of president I would have thought the Democratic Party would have craved. And clearly their appetite for hollow ciphers of differing degrees is...

can never be quenched precisely because they need to provide a conduit for the real power. I noticed one of the times I watch most, you know, watch as much of your stuff as I can, but you sort of said that the Trump campaign were never hostile, were never vindictive when you were running. And the Democrat Party went from trying to get you

off of ballots to ensuring that you remain on ballots because a kind of confusion and disorientation now is part of their campaigning against you. How important specifically is it, Bobby, that people ensure that they vote for Trump now in order to prevent this kind of globalism and totalitarianism that we're discussing? And how do you advise those people that have supported you and probably, you know, in fact,

Wouldn't you have assumed the biggest demographic of Bobby Kennedy supporters would come from God? All the people that have been observing the risks you've taken around the subject of health. All the people that are anti-establishment but...

Can't bring themselves to vote for Trump because of some of the clumsy stuff he's said. People disenfranchised and disenchanted by a democratic party that's clearly been captured by corporate interests and is now the party of war. How are you going to guide them and what appeal do you make to them to ensure that when it comes to this election, they vote for Donald Trump?

Yeah, I mean, that's a really important point, Russell. I'm in this kind of paradoxical position that I don't think any politician that I recall has been in, which is I'm urging people when they see my name on the ballot not to vote for me and instead to vote for Donald Trump. And the only way that I'm going to get to Washington, D.C. and actually try to start fixing these problems, which I will do if they let me in,

is if people ignore my name on the ballot and vote for Donald Trump instead. Particularly in a couple of the battleground states like Michigan, where I fought very hard to get off the ballot. I actually won the case in the Court of Appeals, and they ordered the Board of Elections to remove me from the ballot. The Democratic Party, which had been trying to keep me off the ballot for four months,

then pivoted and now is sued to keep me on the ballot because they knew that that would confuse the electorate. Yeah. Oh, you know, it's a deliberate anti-democratic imagination. And, you know, I'm urging people not to fall for it. I don't want to be on the ballot and I don't want you to vote for me. I want you to vote for Donald Trump because that's the only way that I'm going to get to Washington and fix the food system forever.

fix the pharmaceutical system, unravel this corrupt merger of state and corporate power that has turned our agencies predatory against the American public, and hopefully rescue American democracy so that then we can begin actually promoting democracy around the world, not at the barrel of a gun, but through the power of example.

One of the things I've enjoyed about you campaigning alongside Trump is the clarity of the messaging, moving away from rather diffuse, inane concepts like joy, the Kamala Harris campaign, simple thing, or turning the page. It was pointed out to me earlier that Kamala Harris is on the page that they're turning and on this woman, she's in government. She wrote the page. That's our page. That you brought to the forefront, health,

ending war and free speech. These seem obviously to be pressing and important issues. What in particular, in the event that there is a successful campaign and that you are granted the authority to do so, will you do about big food and big pharma? I was watching your video about the cereal the other day, you know, and like they're sort of, someone said under there, like, would people don't, you know, I'm guessing this would be like, they,

I'll check you, man. I'll tell you. They go, well, you don't have to buy that food. You don't have to buy that food. It's only an option. I was thinking, how can a liberal, democratic person make that argument? Do you know what addiction is? Addiction is the overriding of...

your compulsions the overriding of your Voluntary ability to choose whether or not to do something. I'm going to say this as an addict in recovery I know you're public about your position You know you're a recurring addict as well You know that if our food has things in it that take away your ability to choose whether or not you're eating it anymore and that's happening at scale and being marketed as a

at children. These are the sometimes I think when we're caught up in the culture war, you know, and it's easy to get caught up in the culture war. There are evocative issues around identity and who cares more about anything they care about themselves these days. You know, like there are actually quite fundamental things being discussed, like the potential for war, the potential for war. And additionally, food and pharma, pivotal, fundamental issues. F***

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I've had the feeling that these interests are so entrenched, Bobby, that, you know, even if you're actually in government, you kind of can't do it. You know, see, when you see Biden capping like 10 drugs or whatever and saying we beat big pharma this year, you think, why is the president in that kind of dynamic with pharma companies? If you're the president, aren't you just able to go, hey, stop,

Stop marketing these unnecessary drugs. Stop introducing new drugs that are essentially a rebrand, a white label. So I get the sense that there are some pretty deep state and global corporatist powers in there. How do you oppose them things, Bobby? Let me make a point just and answer that. That suggestion that people have a choice. All of the institutions of our government have been corrupted to remove the choice from the American public.

And it's done in a series of very powerful, you know, in some of them subtle ways, for example, just not informing the public that there's poison in their food. Creating, making the food addictive so that people don't understand the impact that it's having on them. They don't have an informed choice. As you know,

During the 1980s and 1990s, the tobacco companies were the richest companies, some of the richest companies in the world. And they came under tremendous pressure from the government that was then suing them. A bunch of the states, not the federal government, a bunch of the states began suing them. Glass action suits to reimburse for Medicare bill. There was education programs to educate and discourage people from smoking. And they saw the writing on the wall saying,

So they went out to diversify and they took all that money and they bought up all the food companies in our country. And they brought in thousands of scientists who had specialized in addiction, in creating addiction in tobacco. They brought those scientists into companies like Kraft and the big food company. The two biggest food companies by the end of the 1990s in the United States were

Philip Morris and R.J. Reynolds, the two biggest tobacco companies. And they brought all their scientists who were making tobacco more addictive and hooking children. And they began making chemicals that addict you to foods. Monosodium, glutamate, but all chemicals

hundreds of chemicals that are addicting and make food so that it that it doesn't satiate you so that it actually keeps you hungry even when you're full and These were chemicals that did not occur in nature. They were manufactured in labs. The human body has no way to process them They're not actually food. They're food like substances at the same time. There's tremendous economic pressure for people to eat these foods, for example, and

We, tens of hundreds of billions of dollars that go to the farm program every year. Those, that money, 90% of that is going for three items, corn, soy, and wheat. And it makes those, crop insurance, all these other programs, it makes those substances very, very cheap. And they became the feedstock. So GMO corn, GMO soy, and wheat became

which are heavily laden with pesticides, and became the feedstock for this new processed food industry. And because they're so cheap, they're government subsidized. We spend only about 2% of the farm program goes to fruit and vegetables. Most of it goes to these big GMO, heavily pesticide laden and intensive grains products.

that then become put through extruders and other processes. They're filled with sugars, which themselves are addictive. You know, sugar is, Mark Hyman has shown, it's as addictive as crack. And that became the basis for the food program. So it's the cheapest food.

In many neighborhoods in our country, particularly poor neighborhoods, there are food deserts. You can't get a hold of foods anywhere near it. The only food that you have access to is these kind of foods, these processed foods. And that's why black Americans and American Indians have the highest chronic disease rates of anybody in the world. And they had the highest death rates from COVID because it was actually chronic disease that was killing people from COVID.

There's other mechanisms, too. The food stamp program, which is $70, $80 billion a year, most of that, about $70 billion of that, goes to processed food. So if you're poor, it's the food that you're encouraged and the government pays for. And then the school lunch program, which for many kids in this country, the only decent meal they're getting every day is

is school lunch. And that now, about 70% of that is processed food. Yeah, you can say they have people of choice, but they don't have choice. It's like saying they had a choice to vaccinate during COVID. They did have a choice. You know, you could go into isolation and, you know, and you could lose your job and you could, but there were a lot of penalties built in to coerce that choice. And there are economic penalties built

They're physical and cultural. And then advertising, as you say, is meant to overwhelm free choice. Oh, you have all these mechanisms for overwhelming free choice, and people do not have a choice. Most people don't have a choice but to eat this stuff. People don't want to eat it when they hear about it, but...

particularly if you live in a black neighborhood in this country, you have to spend a lot of your resources and a lot of your time trying to avoid those kind of foods if you're educated about it. And there's no education because the government is telling you, yeah, it's great. And by the way, they've not only bribed and captured the agencies, the Congress, the press, which is dependent on food and pharmaceutical advertising,

But they've also captured the NGOs. So some of the biggest contributors to the American Diabetes Association are sugar drink companies. And probably the biggest contributor to the NAACP is sugar drink companies. To keep black people from complaining that 10% of food stamps are used for Coca-Cola and other sugar drinks. So Coca-Cola gives millions of dollars to NAACP.

which is the National Association for Colored People. I mean, it's the primary frontline organization standing up for civil rights historically. But it's been completely bought off by Coca-Cola Company, so that if you say out loud, if you're a politician and you say out loud, we shouldn't let food stamps be spent on sugar drinks. We are poisoning all the poor people in this country and giving them all diabetes.

The NAACP will condemn you as racist because they say that's the only food black people can afford. And you're trying to cut off their choice to live as they want. You know, and it's it's all these contrived and fictitious and convoluted arguments that, no, it's not racist. The racist thing is poisoning all the black people in this country and poisoning American Indians themselves.

And let me give you just one example of, you know, how this is genocide. That is a term I do not use lightly. But the American Indians, more than any other race in the world, have been subject to genocide, deliberate genocide, as much as Jews have. Systematic genocide. Most of them, you know, were deliberately exterminated through war and weaponry, through isolation on reservations.

today that genocide takes place is being completed through what on there and i spent 20 of my uh my career working on it with american indian issues tree on treaty negotiations and litigation against big polluters um that were you know in in making incursions onto the reservations and but what on the reservations there's a term called white death which is white flour white sugar and white grease which is crisco

And the American Indians have the highest chronic disease rate in the world. The Pima Indians in New Mexico and Arizona have the highest diabetes rate on earth, 90%, because they're getting these foods. They're being systematically poisoned. The Pimas were some of the healthiest, longest-lived people in the world prior to the advent of processed foods.

the pima indians in mexico right across the border are slim they don't have diabetes they don't have cardiac disease they live long they're extremely healthy they're very durable but right on the u.s side of the border where they're all being systematically inundated with these uh processed foods there they are dying at a younger age i think that the average lifespan is 47 years

And it is a genocide. It is the continuation of this systematic genocide of the Indian people. And during COVID, we had the highest death rate of any country in the world. We had 16% of the COVID deaths in the United States. We only have 4.2% of the world's population. We were dying from COVID at a rate of 3,000 people per million population yesterday.

In Haiti, Nigeria, they were dying at 14 people per million population. We were told by Bill Gates and Tony Fauci, we got to get the vaccines to Haiti and Nigeria to save them, or they're going to be wiped out from COVID. Guess what? Only 1% of them were vaccinated. 1.3% in Nigeria, 1.4% in Haiti. And yet their death rate was 1 200th of American blacks who were fully vaccinated. And Indians...

had the highest vaccination rate of any population in the world, 100%, because they were being paid $1,000 apiece to get the vaccine. And they had by far, far, far the highest death rate from COVID in the world. And it's because they were sick. CDC says the average American who died from COVID had 3.8 chronic diseases. So it wasn't COVID that was killing them. Healthy people did not die from COVID.

The only people who died were people who were already sick and it was chronic disease that was killing them and that's caused by their food.

Mass poisoning this generation of kids. It's interesting to consider COVID not as an aberration, but a fulmination and culmination of processes that have long been in place and were requiring, I suppose, a third act of that magnitude and that nature to sort of

as the denouement almost, with the comorbidities and such, just to execute the final plan, not to use, I don't want to use sensationalist language. But Bobby, an earlier example you gave was the proposal that there'd be restriction on food stamp usage that people might, and with some legitimacy, regard as authoritarian if it were to say that certain foods can be purchased on food stamps.

And for me, that sort of strikes as the kind of superficial measure that prevents the excavatory work required from being undertaken. When you describe these barren food deserts, and when I think of the highly managed environments that I occasionally move through, the...

that I sometimes suspect that globalism wants the world to resemble where your every move is surveilled and measured, where the food that you eat and the sounds that you hear are all curated and controlled for you.

wonder if the or not the an alternative but the necessary opposition might be a when it comes to say just to the to your point about food and food stamps a decentralized and localized system of agriculture and when i think of what the alternative might look like it's basically

The mind boggles at the amount of institutions and institutional interests that would have to be challenged, opposed, brought down, decimated and destroyed to imagine the alternative where people were eating food grown locally and naturally, where people were...

participate in in their cultures and democracies directly where people understood to sort of paraphrase burrows this idea that people understood what was on the end of their fork both physically and literally but also in terms of the information that they're consuming to challenge like interests like big food to imagine the type of power we're discussing i can't see it just as inert i'm starting to see it and i i i try not to yield to hysteria as best i can it's like it sounds

sort of occultist that that amount of power could be practiced and to imagine the opposition to that kind of power to enable people to like to, oh, if you're on food stamps, you'll be eating organic grass fed vegetables.

You'll be eating food grown near to where you are. When I think of the interests that have just collapsed, just to try to augur that, it's like a different economic, agricultural, environmental reality.

You know, I can imagine people sort of sanctioning, you're not allowed to spend your food stamps on sugary foods, you bloody idiots. Eat food. But what I can't imagine is we are going to take on big agriculture, big pharma, big food to the degree where people eat food that they understand grown where they're from. We're going to end transporting food around the world. We're going to have a diet

this in harmony with our environment we are going to because ultimately aren't we talking about consciousness aren't we talking about an awareness be aware of the information you're consuming it may be deceptive be aware of the person you're voting for they may not have your interest at heart be aware of these media organizations be a food of the be aware of the very food that you're eating like when i imagine once you know my prayer is that you are elected as part of this movement my like you know even just being in this city man terrifies me i see those big block buildings and their big

blockchain capture. I feel frightened. I feel frightened here. And God knows what it must be like with you, your history. I can't imagine what you say and what you do to prevent Coca-Cola having that power, Kraft having that power, Pfizer having that power, Raytheon, Northrop Grumman, all of those. And maybe even those things are just visible logos of something far more insidious and deeper. And on a practical level, what is it that we're saying on day one?

Well, here's the thing. If I get in there, and you know, one of the things that Robert Redfield said to me, you know, the former head of CDC who made this extraordinary endorsement of me this week. Yeah, I can't believe that. How did that feel? Because you wrote a lot about him in The Real Anthony Fauci. I was bowled over. But then I met with him. And one of the things he said to me is that he said, you're the only one.

Who can fix this problem at HHS? Because everybody who goes into HHS gets captured there. First of all, they are... To get appointed head of the HHS by any president of the United States, you already have to have been approved of and co-opted for a lifetime. Yes. As part of this corrupt...

So people don't get into HHS unless they're pharmaceutical lobbyists or whatever. But President Trump is an unusual guy. And he said to me, oh, you know, the pharmaceutical industry is going to go nuts if I bring you in and give you power. And he said, I'm going to do it because I don't care. That's what he said. And I think he's the only guy who really doesn't care. He doesn't care.

Oh, but and what Redfield said to me, who was and just so people know, Robert Redfield was the head of CDC during COVID. And in my book, I bash him and his record. And and I said to him, you know, I really was unkind to you in my book on Fauci. He said, I know, but I have a thick skin. He came out of the military. He was at he was in he was part of Operation Warp Speed, but he always was a voice of slight dissent.

He was telling us things, you know, that herd immunity probably did work better. And these things that everybody else was trying to say, no, they don't work. So he always had this little...

part of himself that was ethical, but he said, "You're the only one who can do this because you need somebody in there who's indestructible, who has already, you know, stood the test of being defamed and attacked and has withstood it because most people who go in there are going to be, you know, at every level of those agencies."

have the capacity to commit these little civil disobediences that will, you know, turn off the electricity, create a measles epidemic, do all these things that will embarrass the president and discredit anybody who actually tries to genuinely reform the system. But for me, I've been thinking how to do this for 40 years. I've sued all these agencies. And when you litigate against them, you get a PhD in corporate capture. And how...

to dismantle it, how to unravel it. And I know the names of people in these agencies who have to be moved or the troublemakers. For example, when I sued Monsanto, we came across emails that showed that the head of the pesticide division at EPA for a decade had been secretly working for Monsanto and fixing studies, making sure that to bring in these phony mercenary industry scientists, we call them biostitutes,

create studies that you know that protected monsanto that hid the the cancer signals in those you know from people using roundup so um and i know the names of those people in many many of the agencies and i know you know what to do with them and how to get rid of them we have to get rid of anybody in fda who has anything to do with food a lot of it is by changing personnel

Some of it is going to be by opening up databases. There's a hundred things that I'm going to do in the first week. We also now have the example of this awesome power that the government took during COVID of declaring an emergency and saying you can do things that everybody believed were impossible, and we can do that. But the most important mechanism that I will have at my disposal is the scientific research capacity at NIH.

NIH gives away $42 billion a year to 56,000 scientists at universities in the United States, Canada, Britain, elsewhere around the world to do research. And the research since 1980...

The research has been really about new drug development. So most of those guys are basically partnered with the pharmaceutical industry. And the individual scientists at NIH can actually collect royalties of $150,000 a year forever on any product that they developed at NIH. And that is then sold to the pharmaceutical industry. So it's become an incubator for pharmaceutical products.

and study gain of function and infectious disease to create more pandemics. If I go in there, I'm going to change the focus and say, what we're going to do now is actually make people healthier. We're going to figure out why has autism gone from one in 10,000 in my generation to one in every 34 American kids today, one in California, one in every 22 kids. Why did that happen? Why has diabetes gone from

When I was a kid, the average pediatrician saw one case of diabetes in his lifetime. Now, one out of every three kids who walks through his office door is diabetic or pre-diabetic. We spend more on diabetes treatment in this country than our military budget. I'm going to say, what's causing this? What's causing the obesity epidemic? What's causing all these autoimmune diseases? And we're going to take all those scientists and we're going to say, we want you to work on those. Now, the reason for that is

is that if we have, you know, one of the big offenders is high fructose corn syrup, right? That's why one of the reasons Americans are so sick. It's in everything. And it comes from corn and from subsidized corn. There's millions of farmers who have been hooked on this system. So they're an impediment to changing it from above. You could never say, the government could never say, we're going to get high fructose corn, get rid of it. Because Congress is owned by Cargill, Monsanto, the companies that are making it.

There's a million farmers who are grassroots army for them. And Congress is given money by all those companies and the regulatory agencies are controlled. So you can't just declare it. But here's what you can do. I can do 20 or 30 studies, a mix of all different kinds of studies and studies, animal studies, epidemiological studies, observational studies that show the connection between

between high fructose corn syrup and diabetes or obesity. And then what happens is the lawyers are going to come out of the woodwork and they're going to round up millions of clients who have diabetes and they're going to sue these companies. Now, right now, you can't do that because the science does not exist to allow those lawsuits to go forward. But once we create that science, the marketplace, you can't change it from above through a centralized system.

Through decentralized attorneys suing in court locally, you can change the system because you can impose costs. And that's what we did with glyphosate, which was part of Roundup, which everybody said, you'll never get rid of glyphosate. We brought, you know, I had 40,000 clients, me and my partners.

who at all were home gardeners who got non-Hodgkin's lymphoma from using glyphosate. And we tried those cases one at a time. The first case, we won $289 million. The second case, we won $89 million. The third case, we asked for a billion. We got $2.2 billion. And then Monsanto came to the negotiating table and said, Uncle,

We don't want to try any more cases or we're going to go bankrupt. And they settled the entire group for $13 billion, and they agreed to take glyphosate out of home gardening products. That's how you fix the system.

Bobby, it's very exciting to imagine you and pray for you to receive the kind of power that you've dedicated your life to coming into alignment with. I pray that the rest of the campaign goes well for you, and I pray that you are protected, because I believe that you are doing such incredible and important work with such valor and such grace, and surely that's what we require now, nationally, internationally. Thank you. Thank you, Russell. Thank you for your courage and for...

you know being the the philosopher of the leading philosopher the reigning philosopher of democracy that left on the globe what does it come to that such a thing must surely be true um hey um remember the important thing your real take home here is if you see bobby kennedy on the ballot

you must vote Trump. That is the message that we're here to convey. Thanks for joining us. We didn't talk about free speech, but the very fact that you're on Rumble is an advocacy for free speech and we know where we stand on war. Thankfully, end all war. Peace. Thanks once again, Bobby Kennedy, for joining us today. Thank you. Thank you, Russell, for having me. Thank you very much.

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