S20 E1: [Preview] S20: Becoming Brody
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Oh, it's publicly listed on the internet. It's not because my phone number is a brand new phone number. Oh, is your privacy important to you? It's important to all your victims too. Okay. You have no proof that I did anything. I have so much proof. It's insane, baby girl. So I'm sitting there at work and I get this message request on Instagram. I open it and it's literally a whole ass book talking about

someone using my pictures in Iowa to catfish girls. And I was like, you're kidding. I don't believe this for one second. And they're like, no, it's, this is real. I had to tell her three years into the relationship, quote unquote, with Brody that I've been talking to this guy I haven't met and she's terrified for me. I wanted to fly there because he was in the hospital and she just had the worst feeling about it.

I feel like the reason she took so long to tell me was because deep down she knew something was not right. From the moment Lauren met Jess, I thought that Jess was birdie. Did you tell her that? Yes. Yeah, I did. I was laying in Jess's bed. I was crying my eyes out. She's rubbing my back and playing Christian music, hoping that I can get through this.

He said, "This sounds like a true crime documentary waiting to happen where there is someone obsessed with another person and they ultimately end up dead." I never thought or never could fathom it getting worse or crazier or weirder because it was already so bizarre. And then I'm on the phone and we connect the dots and it's like 10 steps way worse.

I met quote Brody in July of 2019 and then Jess only a month or two after. I don't know that Jess could be physically that close to Brie and Brie not realizing that as she's sending texts, Jess is responding. So there has to be somebody else. There has to be somebody else in this picture, right?

Jess was screaming at me and just basically saying, I want nothing to do with you since you think I'm a fake person and played it till the very end. I'm like blowing their phones up. Like, please answer the fucking phone. Finally, Brie's roommate picks up and I'm like, has Brie ever met Brody in real life? And it was like a deadpan silence. And then I just hear her like scream, cry. It was horrible.

That's when it truly sat in that I'm dealing with a sociopath that I welcomed her into my home. She has this crazy twisted mindset. She somehow manages to somehow have this web of knowledge for all of the people she's talking to and all of the stories that she has to keep straight.

I genuinely had the purest of intentions and it's so sick and cruel how someone can keep something going like that. Especially your best friend, who you do everything with and you live with and you confide in. Backstabbing. I didn't know she still had access to that camera in our common space.

He was just very angry with me. That was the first time he scared me. That's when I tried to get away. And the first time he had overdosed, ended up in the hospital. I hear bang, bang, bang, bang, bang right on the window. I run upstairs. I grab her son. I grab the dogs and we go upstairs and the person is shining their flashlight in my bedroom window. I'm freaking out, calling the police, crying, but also completely frozen. Like I couldn't move. All I could say was, please hurry, please hurry, please hurry.

The suicides, everything was exactly the same. And it was just like a scary, insane movie. And for all these years, she was friends with both of them and kept them so separate. They were like, let's just take this to social media. I'm done. Let's just expose her.

I watched the first one and then I called her and I'm just like, what the fuck? She is still doing this and we were jumping up and down, freaking out. I cannot believe that she is still doing this. And to this extent, the similarities are so crazy. Her thought process and her games and manipulation is all still the same. It's all heightened to this expert level.

Bree's like, oh, there's another victim. There's this victim. Adding more girls, we're getting more stories. This Brody time period of my life was the lowest I've ever been. I was in a very, very dark place. It takes a special kind of sick individual to do this to one person, let alone the 20-plus. It's criminal, and she should be in jail.

Unfortunately, based on the evidence that we have, Jessica Pauly has been doing this for 18 years. I'm not surprised by that. I am working on a case and your name has come up on it. So I was wondering if I could reach out to you for comment. What case? Who is it in regards to? Jessica Pauly. Um, oh.

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