"Keri Russell"
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Hello, listening. What we're in the middle of a song writing Operation here. Shop has.

We are three guys talking today. We one of us just might be there's .

just two times ah ah be none of the three of .

us you think that nobody knows which one .

of the three you know .

one of us is definitely gay.

Can you .

work at .

everybody? Five.

six? One of is definite.

well.

So I shown you're still .

in new york city.

yeah. Would you ever .

consider .

living their full time?

Funny you say that. No, because we gotten I had a long conversation about IT. It's we have the story person. yes.

This is what this is the rythm of the question.

Sitting in a chair, scope brings a couple pop. I about something. Yes.

right now, for the first time ever, i've been kind of getting used to, like I understand, I associate the city with work and work only because i've had as some extra downtime was like, oh, I finally get IT. Like, i'd never walked through central park. I walked through century park all the time. Now I got, this place is huge and is beautiful, by the way, you know what I do and I want, I started walking in central park at dusk, you know, and what I do is I flex my lats and hold my had a really high, because I can somebody, you know, to make myself appear bigger than I am.

So we'll do IT.

Yeah, you think I get your lads or skip?

Yeah.

it's like a cobra. You know.

you flare out the best trade. That's exactly right. You make your self something bigger.

Hey, I we got one ready with alive. Fuck you. crazy. Look at .

the lads on .

this guy.

The great well spec knows how to play out the role back with that.

When I .

get yeah, the blanket that draped over the the chairs behind you.

who did that? I did that.

You did that. You feel that. Then you drop IT.

yes. And did the .

rape as much nice. Yeah.

a pillow, you a pillow cradling.

sorry. Yeah, not. I don't care about a little.

but you're both around .

and .

pillows.

Yeah, that's not a museum. M.

well, this is little distance, but you know, it's shown as got you have nice things. Look at behind him there with sponges, with stuff on the bookshelves, are the books.

yes. Jb.

have you been to the apartment .

in new york? I asked you you had to work, but I said .

to you.

yeah.

yeah.

oh my god.

please come over.

And why?

Well, you've been in a couple times after guys got back from istanbul.

Did you go through there? I P, I P, I keep a few things there. Just exam there so much, do you really? No, I don't you. And wait, shan.

what do you just pull up? And framework is that that they're talking about with scotch is that apple juice.

Is apple juice so good, right?

With a lot of, yes, do you have a real I know I bet you a half a dozen max of our listeners know someone that drinks a glass of milk or three every day and apple juice on ice. I mean, you are, you are absolutely, you are mr. america.

A ah, not just that. It's like nineteen seventy three.

I have pop art.

No, we know slippers. And and then .

do you guys have I got J B.

I got J B apart. These.

yes, you did. Ah we've ve got a guest way.

What is sure we do? Ever guess I do you want to say that shown you are the first person? And now I do. IT years ago, he's working slippers and I go home. Man, are you wearing slippers at dinner? And he and he work them out and I kind of went like, I guess it's okay to wear slips out.

I've never done. I'm just going to my house to go sit down and eat and then go back to my house right?

Sweat pants is the universal sign for when you hit fucked, right, when you're .

wearing sweatpants outside everyday. So IT is a huge is a huge industry, athletic, a huge have never .

heard that before. yes. So when you see people .

out during the day, you're at the vacant center and they're working stretchy pants and a stretch up, you're like, are we we class together and you're like, no, I just walk around the world like this.

right? But it's so .

comfortable I know I know it's comfortable my fucking page but like what am I doing .

yeah for naked you're not a .

lot to walk around naked or not house yeah you don't get could .

never do IT. But I get like, I don't like genes are pants that are super tight you know that they're constricting.

Go anywhere.

I get, I get wanting to wear as as is the .

humble break thing needs a lot more room in there than I.

I just think that the whole I think that there's an entire segment of our population that is fucked. It's not even they think that it's appropriate to like, by the way, you know, I I wear shorts out sometimes in a teacher, but I am not like to.

Say, in how much longer do you have to go on the show weeks that IT can you believe in?

And then it's all coming on now is a beard and here at .

same time ah yeah over the course of two or two or three days, yeah.

because we're going to do, I can wait to see.

I know I can, i'm going to look so weird .

and this look.

look old probably. Do you think I look .

older?

right? Because because .

one one .

are guessed .

like that.

Yeah, seems like she's in a good mood.

She's in a very good mood. Let's get through SHE is ah so much because I want to hear what he has to say but you're face and and your beer come up and stuff and i'm really excited because I love having a good friend on here, especially I can old friends, friends somebody who likes to laugh and have a good time set up.

Do we all know?

Do we all know her? somebody? I don't know how well you two guys know. And i've been friends for a number years and you'll tell you why. You'll guess once I say why, but SHE is and I don't like you know, there's this thing now where people say in the world is, oh god, you're my favorite human that .

expression drive be it's almost .

is almost up their wins wearing fucking and stretch pants.

There are dogs that out rank you, but as far as humans go.

the people use that. You're my favorite human. Just say person. You want to my favorite people, you don't need to say human. But anyway, he is one of my favorite human. So i'm going to use IT breaking my own rule because my hypocrites throwing through and she's just such a wonderful person SHE so fun to to laugh with and talk to.

She's super smart and and when you look at so I want to say that I love her as a person and I also love in respect or as an artist, says a performer. She's so amazing. We she's been nominated for emptying emy awards, and she's one golden globes and critics choice awards for lots of different stuff.

You might remember her from you making mouse from the Mickey mouse club. You might know from honey eyebrow up the kid and he was named for a Young artist award for that gonna kill me um you might remember her from a lot of different things. You might remember from her two episodes of all that he did with heat leger back in the day. But you're definitely gone to remember her.

Definite a bother and on .

bother yeah you're definitely going to remember her from her show, which is going to a second season soon. The diplomat, you also know from the americans, you know from the list you guys.

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Oh my god. Hello, kerry .

Carry. Oh my god.

It's good.

Are busy .

so we got curry underside, understand but and I didn't even to mention Matthew because if I want, I say that the backwards and kill you're not going to kill me for the Mickey club.

I love that .

you on the Mickey .

mouse club .

with like gritty .

y spears and no way .

with them. You were on, all of you were on the same thing.

Oh yeah. Ask me anything. This is, I mean, gold. That first .

val Carry.

hi. So nice to see.

This is so nice to see you. So nice to see all of you.

And you, are you home?

I just got home. I've i've been filling in london, and I just got home just a few days ago. So i'm home getting kids ready for school. My teenagers helpme set this, all this .

stuff up. Are you good? Are you good at adJusting time, different time zones? Are you like your lunch at leg?

I'm just like, but I really love the early morning so even though i'm just still getting up for it's like such a quiet time in my house with so I don't I .

love just like Peter tell you something about Carry appreciate, which is she's so disciplined, it's crazy. You can just like do anything like what's what's the task? Okay, so we'll do this so i'll get up early and I do the thing like you just .

does a corn Carry. I'm not what are you?

I'm in areas that thing.

I about my own side really and .

you're well.

shocking the mom, my wife can come in here and break you down. My wife would ask you, you're rising in your moon.

I don't know any that but i'm into IT, but I don't I don't know anything that why.

kerrie, do you remember that one time this is like decades ago and you know i'm going to say you you were with an acting coach and you came out and I was going in and that's when we first met. This is like twenty five, thirty years, like a super long time. I got which acting coach, I don't remember.

But IT was, IT was her house. IT was this agent cultural house. And I was like a back. IT was like a guess house in the back. And you were coming out, and I was going and think of my careful.

because a lot of people listen to this IT.

Was that sheets like a really intense teacher that he did like Alberti and like that.

right? Maybe I don't like .

I was behind in her house, like, not Venus, but like kind jacket.

Yes.

should you don't remember her name either? I don't shi you wish some of those classes at stuck like you were .

some of them .

that would be so fun as some of that had worked you I mean.

I wish me and stuff like.

would you go in there with a specific set of sides for an audition that's coming to work first.

a monologue. I need a funny monogue in a dramatic monologue.

Yeah, Carried human. And what you were doing IT .

for where did no idea maybe a movie or something that I don't know? I mean, I did like once or twice.

probably I licit so I was .

probably like just once or because a friend of mind was going, anyway.

Yeah, now, now what about what do you will is threatening to move to a can keep up. It's either, it's either is usually england. I think now it's portugal.

But but he would like to live in, in, in england. I think I as what I I think what where did where did IT coming back from their level? I mean, would you go back?

So i've spent the past three summers filling there, which I know is you know a little bit of a unique existence like you have a nice place to live, you you working, you have a job, yes. So there are a lot of things that are extra nice. You know, it's not like you, but IT is london in the summer is until light and that is so like, breathtakingly beautiful. I tend to live north and like by the heat and I wake up early morning and I said.

he is such a great area to IT .

is so magic .

and and .

and I loved IT I really, really loved IT and actually I don't think well, I don't know. I don't think i'm telling tails at the school. But my last week there we had this so I I am on the show called the diplomat and it's about the investor in in london who's i'm friends with, the real one ambassage gene hardly.

who's just wow.

amazing and smart and cool and the last week he said we were a good, got a dinner before before I leave in so we went to the river cafe and that great actor, fuck what is name on the bear who plays the cousin eban joined us and we just had this like IT was such a fun rockers, dinner and roof soot who's on my show to and and it's just full of everyone who was everyone was at this restaurant that night. I was like one of those magic wild moments and so I love london. Could you see yourself if living .

their full time like IT with your whole family? Well.

I don't know because I wonder if it's, you know, I love coming back here to you fall in new york is yeah so I worked.

If she's in new york, live in this, in live.

where are you shown where? Where are you .

looking birds if you take a left at the plain vehicles but if you, if you, if you lived in london, I don't know if you could because first will match .

a welshman no Matthews .

at the pub and then also said before, it's all over in a fight with a bunch of of english men, right?

Ah there there's definitely arrive really. He loves london.

but course me, what about your teenagers? Have they have done some time there?

They have yeah .

they think they like that.

I mean, but they kind of like you guys but you know they travel whether we work.

So yes, so in the summer they can be with you yeah and they were they like because I i've got a twelve year old and seventeen .

year and they just have exactly the same yeah yeah ky.

you wow. But they're like, you know they're they've got their lives, you know and they ve got their friends and theyve got their places like to go like, great, i'll see when you get back, mom, finites right. It's harder to get them away. Or or do you really want to disrupt them?

His name, your quick.

sorry, I fun game.

This is a fun, but IT, by the way, Jason and some, have you guys? Have you guys spent like near ham? He like a area .

I ve london.

But blow your mind, I would shift everything you think about living in onda ham dad, because it's like, it's like, it's like a massive I want to say park it's kind of doing IT a deserves by calling in a park, but expect that is that super and it's got a much like little lakes and its stuff. You can swim wild. It's wild. It's like a wild park.

O, D, you live there.

I really have. I I know we shot there. You, when the strike happened, we had to make up for things. So we shot there over the winter. And it's different in the winter. Now it's it's because in new york in the winter, it's even if it's snowing or it's freezing, IT can be Sunny and you Debray ing and you can still a bite, but it's raining every day. And rain all day is different than in cold.

right? Kind of all that gets into your bone even as a canadian like become freezing .

yeah so I do love IT and so lush and so Green and the people there's a wheel I don't know it's IT does have a different culture than we have.

But just what did you start? where?

Where did you grow up? I moved around a lot. So I was .

born in california.

Then I, then I grew up. I spent thirty years an arizona and then colorado. And then my parents detect us. So I I move was .

the first place. He said.

za .

canford a former.

Then.

yeah, are you getting an email coming into SHE said, IT, like a second ago. wait. So Carry. So you group. And so and I knew that about, I always think of you, I always associate you with colorado.

And that was my high school, high school yeah. And probably that I dated a hockey player for, have a second from corner.

That's probably what you remember remember to, you know, I remember all the hockey stuff.

and we will be right back. And now back to the show.

How did IT happen that you um became part of the Mickey mass club? Yeah so I was a .

dancer and like with all my little dance friends in colorado, you know protein teenage years and that was my sport at all. I did. And a bunch of my friends went to like a giant casting call. And we stood outside of the denver conventions dinner with thousands of little kids in their lives or something, and we just stood line. Some do like said, hey, you want to read a little script of a mermaid brushing and teeth .

and chocolate or I was part of .

the addition or just roll the window down.

I was willing to do IT. And yeah, no, so and that's what I did and they they call me back.

wow. I mean, that is really, first of all, that gives a lot of hope, I think, to people who are like, I should I bother going for that thing? And thousands of people, you could end up being Carrie, russia, I am can be carrell. But I mean, you've you've built an incredible life with really impressive credit. You've done amazing things with that decision.

something you wanted to do or you did your parents tell you about .

that I wanted I am I don't think I knew what I really was. I just went with a bunch of best friends. Pales who are you know, going they're let's go do this thing by the way, I can't sing. I D had never rarely been an actor. Yeah so they said, do a little dance like, do your us get and seeing a little song and .

because I .

think they want .

to kids .

who weren't so I don't like IT no way in to hear .

it's no way .

to hear friends or friends like .

years later like you don't even want to go. I was the one that one I was the one I wanted ask you something .

care because has to do with how will introduced you which is like you do when you you just came out and you .

weren't mark mark when you came up, by the way.

you haven't been mark l martial for .

a minute, by the way. I, T and well I but but .

your .

energy and your work ethic, and you're like you do have so much energy even talking to you now and with the kids and working and travel and getting up at five in the morning and working fortunate, like where do you get that drive? Where do you get the energy?

Youth, it's youth.

Yeah, you do have to find IT.

You do have to find IT. Even though you're tired.

you have to find that. I think one number one, I don't work all the time like I, I like long breaks, and I I spend a time of time on my own. I like to be alone, that I have amazing friends, a group of core friends that I love.

And we do stuff all the time. But other than that, I work. I spent, I have a ton of downtime. So for instance, the diplomat at i'm not going off to do right you ons of movies in between or you know and a broadway show or something to I that's my time to just be home and like wonder and read books and yeah yeah that's what keeps me same but but he .

is a good question because I know so Carry. I did this show with with the great years ago. I called running wild, which was, and we had a lot of time, that's how we got to know each other. And IT was crazy. We were trying to make this thing happen.

And we were shooting just crazy hours out on long island and and Carry, remember, we were legitimately that the first couple of weeks we were shooting like sixteen hours a day trying to get these action, you know, get the thing after ground, which and I remember Carry like going either before work or after work to the gym. And SHE had a little kid at home. He had, like a three year old at home and doing other thing, and had all this dialogue, doing all this stuff.

I was like, IT. IT was so impressive. How hard, how dedicated SHE was to get up like like I said, like she's just a duer in this way that jb I can see the smile a jb is face he's just like, yeah because .

you are as well as that he's a machine .

sounds like sounds .

like you like it's either going and really trying to accomplish a ton or just total power down being by yourself just like daring at the wall, doing something really in a um and refilling the tank.

I I just clean out closet I listened to my little nerdy news broadcast no.

he goes, he watches TV and he locks the door and nobody y's love to bother and you can be not clumpy .

but but I will .

food yes yeah nobody can talk to you and he's not interested in anything but the question is Carry um so you so you the the disney stuff and then that leads to what you how long that's like three years I want to say a teenage years.

Yeah teenage years. And then this seriously is the truth. Like whatever the girls look like, they were having sex.

They were like, good that one out of here. And the boys stayed to the twenty five. They are like, that one.

She's out. wow. So really .

seriously.

SHE looks like a greater yeah.

get yeah, yeah, exactly yeah.

And but I was so fun. I mean, IT was, IT was so cheesy looking back, but IT was so fun and all tangible .

like like uh or was IT just a great thing to have in your resume? You just can started to do more for traditional additions.

And yeah I mean from that like because you're under this old school like disney contract, I had to do some movie like the second honey I blue of the kid which was a so .

that was part of your deal for interesting like the old .

school system, like we hired you under this umbrella. So if you record an album, if you make a move like they were, are you .

yeah like .

like the kids now, like all those .

other kids and .

whatever yeah yeah, whatever, all those new disney shows?

No, felicity was quite some time passed up, but that was also one. A, B, C was under the same umbrella. That was part of the same.

That was, I was on A, A, B, C. Was, was that I remember.

because that was their big hit show, and they were a Young network. And then over some, they had a hit. A, A legitimate and IT was.

And that's where you met the great, our friend, the great. J. J, yes, I was J.

J. show. And my guys created. You guys made that network way.

kind of amazing.

You legitimize them because IT was a great show. J, J, got heralded. You got heralded.

Did I mean, everybody kind of went like, Carry Russell? You were exploded on the scene. I remember you .

guys remember every man.

man.

yes, that has been even .

though you've been doing that for a while since you were a teenager, having that kind of thing happened must have been startling. I don't want to put wards you .

and an age where it's pretty, things are chAllenging already at that age, right? And like figuring out who you are.

The reason the show was so good, what J. J. Met did IT was so I was so sweet. IT was like such a sweet little something of a show.

And IT was there are writing that was so good yeah but yeah for luckily I mean, I can't imagine the kids now with all of the social media yeah back then I was just occasional pop ali, we are not you know but yeah I I am sort of a nervous person anyway, around people I don't know. So that only made that worse. And I I that was hard.

but people coming up to on the street that, yeah.

well, I mean, people were generally pretty nice to me. But I I just think if you are an an person IT doesn't help like yeah having more people looking at you all the time. So I think that was something to sort of navigate a little bit. But then IT all worked out because after that show ended, I took a big break and I didn't act anymore. I didn't think that's what .

I wanted to do anymore. A conscious .

decisions. yeah. And where did you think you were going to go?

Well, I thought I was gonna back to or go to school because I hadn't gone to school and because I graduated early from high school, because I was like, mass club yeah so yeah, because when you're on to make a mass club, like if you are kid, you're toured on set so you can not finish as quickly as you can.

I miss the ben.

Yeah, we know about that sometimes there .

buses to do that too and then but so got IT most kids, me in part of IT um like as soon as the the kid show is done there's a panic like, okay, what's the next show going to be? Like what what's my career gona be now that i'm kind of like almost an adult? Yeah and you're dying to get another job and get back into that television series cocoon you know, the safety of employment. You were the opposite. You were like, not only do you not want to work, I don't even if I want to do this occupation anymore.

Yeah, so doing that show that was back in the old days when we would do twenty two episodes. Now, you know, the nature of television is tends to be like eight or thirteen episode des, but we were still doing network twenty two episodes. And especially back then, we were working because matt reeves was one of our first directors and set up the show.

We were shooting IT like film. We were shooting on film in the beginning. But yes, we were working, yeah, we were working eighteen hour a day, you know, five days, weeks.

So my friday, as a twenty one year old, would end about five in the morning, and then I would started again at five on monday. And I love that job. And IT was great. And I I am so thankful, still really close with a few those people.

But in many ways, IT was the life arresting, like, I, I, I wanted to know, be with girlfriends and and, you know, whatever kiss boys are you like, do simple, stupid things that I knew I was sort of missing. So when IT ended, I had no time to spend any money or doing that. I took the money I had saved and rented amazing apartment, one bedroom apartment in the village, which was really great still back then, yeah.

And and I had no furniture. I moved to new york with two giant boxes of books. I got mattresses. I put him on the floor and I did all those things I wanted to do. I had two really great girlfriends there and we would go out dancing and get drunk like walk home, drunken the snow and we would watch the bachelor and each city food ah and like I IT was I was everything yeah I wanted IT to be and I got to just fuck and be a and yeah and I think that's what I wanted.

Did you going to school? I didn't.

So I thought that's what I was gonna and that's probably what I should have done. I still think about IT, but I think I just sort of did IT myself like I just read what I wanted to read about and and took all that time off. I took, I think, a couple of years and then just slowly started inching my way back.

And I took a job where I wasn't the lead I took. I was like a part of a family. And actually we shot in london was my binder, and I was just a part of these sisters. And joe Allen .

was the little.

And I was like.

was that the upside of anker?

Yeah and I was like, you know, she's cool and smart, classy and if I can watch her, if she's managing her life, okay, you know, maybe it's possible. And and SHE was. So then I slowly talk with IT.

what was the other industry that you were thinking about maybe going into?

My god, I I don't know. I think I just wanted to learn. I think I wanted to just go to school.

I think i'm interested in every. I, I, I feel like I could do IT lot of things, right? You know, I am curious, you know, but but i'm generally agreeable. You know, i'm curious about a lot.

but you didn't like start like one particular created. You're thinking, maybe I wanna go to in then like that was kind like it's not that great and then you went back to acting, yes, you don't really, really did anything.

okay? You can get like microplate tics or anything. That's a big industry.

It's everywhere. Yes, I Carry this is coming to Carry N. J, because I was interested. IT cares about people start performing when they're Younger and are able to sustain IT when you are doing making mass cover. Or jb, you are on various shows when you're a kid.

Were you cognition of the people? Talk among gs, you and your your peers and your friends or your families like, hey, how can we make the jump to adult actors? Can just how concious were you that there's a sort of a bar there that there's a separation between being A D actor? And then making IT a life in a career. Were you yeah you aware of that?

I wasn't. Were you?

I was scared shitless that had transition. Yeah yeah. I thought there were no one's going to, you know, you are a kid actor.

So why would anybody want to see you do adult acting when you're an adult like you got start over? Not gonna be an easy transition. And and IT wasn't there. There was all through my twenties, was just just A A burn waste field.

And that's why you shaved your pupils to your twenty two.

And I did for different reasons.

Yeah feels nice.

Guys, I could still play Young.

B, check IT out. I don't even have pute. Thank you.

For that is really funny. Wait, so, very so you go. You do just wait.

Have you read? Because I actually speaking of the creepy kid actors, which, by the way, IT all, all kid actors. The whole thing is so creepy. But there is an amazing book that someone gave me, which I loved. Do you are you familiar with sea Polly at all?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Now she's a director. But, you know, kid actor SHE wrote this book called run towards the danger, which is a collection of stories. And it's sort of unraveling her time in the kind of understanding what that was all like.

And I think you and .

and a lot of other things, but I I do think that affects you and speaks probably to a little bit of what will is saying. Like what he's seeing is like work ethic. But I just think when you're a kid actor, you know you you have to show up that you're not allow to have the flu. You're not allowed to. You've fuck and show up when you do IT and you do you .

know you don't complain to you.

You jb.

jb taught me a lot of I this is truly and I mentioned this a couple of times early on. We were doing a rest development in the first season. And at one point I was like, I got to the point, I didn't take long way as like, hey, what are we are raping today?

Like, you know, I got an early in the day thinking, like, what time I had here and Jason turns me, goes, we got you for the whole day, right? And IT really that is unlike that, was the timing of IT was perfect. I was amazingly shitty and IT was perfect and hilarious, and IT broke me. But also the truth of IT was yemen, you're here to do a thing, and you got this like that.

You're doing the thing you wanted to do.

And IT really, honestly, I never forgot IT. And I Carry IT with me for the rest of my to this day, my working here, which is like, i'm there to do the thing that I ve got to do not to fucking and get out and I feel equally off yeah I feel equis off with people .

when they're like trying to get out ah that .

you sign up for we'll be right back. All right, back to the show.

So care you what about the the anxiety thing because I have a little bit of that too. I'm much Better at IT, you know but how do you do to okay, I mean, sometimes these guys know IT comes up quite up, yeah. But how do you deal with IT? Like you have tools that you you go to tools.

If I wake up in the morning and I do something immediately, like, you know, I do hopefully like something outside, even if it's called that some kind of physical activity really helped me even if, you know, sometimes it's just overtakes and you like, look, here I am. You know what that happened? What really helps me, one of the first time is absolutely true.

Write the beginning of policy times. Before I had ever had to do any that stuff, I had to go on a talk show. My first talk show was rosie Donald had a talk show back, I think was a good daytime talk show.

I had never done anything like that. I kind of in the nervous person in that situation. Anyway.

that's orror me and and it's .

like it's a lot of energy coming toward you in the stage and the .

people and I got back .

there in the stage manager is, I come over here, come over here and I was like, it's overtaking me here IT comes and the stage manager was told rose down, who was so lovely, like, she's nervous so he came back and was like, are you nervous?

And I like, no, no.

And it's like, win out this really, absolutely true. I going out. She's being completely nice. But as I was answering questions going, yes, i'm from colorado, a tear and .

I I watched the ever.

i'm smiling and I just gently, why put away colorado but i'm having a full like panel. I I go back to the hotel, which was, know they sow you in new york, do a double thing and I locked myself in the bathroom, and I was just modified that i've done such a bad job and was so embarrassed and and beating up on myself and my awesome friend, canadian friend, we learn that would love. We had gone up for drinks after, or like maybe the next day.

And I remember along, IT said, I said, oh my god, I had such a bad job on this thing. And you know, I was so bad. And SHE, you know who I just saw on David leman? Km basinger was on David leman.

And SHE was so nervous. And I remember I liked her so much, cause I thought I would be nervous on that thing too. Or IT made me like, stop hating the nervousness about myself so much. I i'm nervous like, what are going if I can do like, and people who are like. So no offense to everyone who is so funny and but you know, because you guys are so good at IT is so good, but not everyone is so so good at .

the little, little crete is that even even the the flashy, sort of funny sort of, I don't seem very nervous person is fied need. They just have this flashy coping skill that is basically acting. They're just able to ask twice, right? Yes.

well, you are very .

easy though in front of people you are very .

but he so says of fuck and mess inside right now, just like I am a fucking in disaster inside and so we should we're not not job crazy. You and you just figure out different ways to fake IT and then and then you get comfortable with that. And that kind of becomes a party. Your personality, too, like the little suit that I put on to kind of deal with IT, is also just kind .

of me get i'll get real with you so so my version um I through a lot of kind of work and exploration over the last few months, this toy oh is I first went a way to boarding school when I was twelve.

I to .

go and all boys, i've been canada and I went to all boys school. I'm going to give .

them the benefit .

of the .

era scope people.

Yeah, a little east of moscow. A O north of Peter. Bro.

that's time to come. Pick you up again, right? Yes.

but south south of finland falls, right? So you could just a narrow done like great years stony late. But i'm not going to say where so um so there .

you are so there .

I is eight twelve and I think that wants that yeah and in one of the things about that is when you a Young, you're that Young, I can imagine my sending. Can you imagine? No, I can in seven when they go.

My roommate first year when I seventh grade and I was twelve, my my first roommate, he had just come from england and he'd been at body school since he was seven. So we've been there for five years. I mean.

I know way of life, but can you imagine.

yeah, you know and and he was very, by the way, he was a very sort of troubled kid and I felt badly for him. But my point was at that age, and I I don't know, is this similar from from, you know, being at on your own, working at that time, I learned to how to cope with being you with not having my mom and that around and how to manage certainly in a situation um with other basically other boys my age know there's a lot and it's kind of very learned of the in a lot of what that bad but know what me I do yes so I think that that skill or whenever that thing that I put up I serve in my life, yeah I think that's what IT is I do. I ve had have been spending a lot of time breaking that down this summer.

which has been, well, whatever is I .

like IT done.

I am bad enough that I didn't .

are crying. So 大家。

so so so Carried。

So you do you do all that and you think you're going to quit and you think you going to do IT and then you go because you have not only do you Carry over from from, uh excuse upon from being a child actor to then having success in your twin, but then you decide that you're gonna maybe shift gears or not do IT anymore or whatever go to school, you're try something else and then you end up having a third act, which you're in right now, release successfully, which is you start doing a bunching of films and you have two really successful television shows. It's really unusual uh, to be able to sort of Carry that on in all these ways. And I would say that you too and pointed Jason and Carry you guys are very unique in that way that you manage to Carry that on.

Yeah, what what was what was the .

thing where you want like? Okay, now i'm in here. I want to start doing more. And kind of what was there a job was a particularly thing that kind of fired up.

Well, the americans was just, the writing was. So I have to say, even in the beginning, I was a slow burn. IT was, you know, I really think the show became good about episode five in the first season. And then I started becoming the other thing, which was really this dirk, kind of unravel of of a marriage. And I always thought the spy stuff was just a way to push and pull the marriage, like sleeping with other people.

So so when you went into IT, then you you were thinking you were going, we're going over here and you ended up kind of going over here.

Yeah, I didn't know. I was like, first, why do want me like to play like tough? Why don't you want like rocky's wife that like ladies .

with a short black hair? Yes.

me what I like. Oh, god, what?

I I am getting dragged with my friends walking in this. Now what you i'm still hung up on that image of you and your friends drunkenly .

walking down seven guys IT saved my life. I really did. So 也 that was just a lucky total luck just getting to do that show and and then meeting that you and all that know that was just good writing so fun to be a part of something that yeah was well received。

And then and then I took another long break. I feel like that's what keeps me in IT. As I go in and out, I take little pockets where then I just home doing laundry and you seeing .

my friends and take to the americans after the americans and it's on the americans that you met Matthew and the great Matthew we've had on the program.

who is just an absolutely love yeah.

Matthew. So I just I always, I just love seeing his face to meet a nice place for them about .

a year ago with Christian.

with our music. Yes.

equally is great. Oh.

my god. equally.

Oh, god delight for yeah .

and there was a lot of fun. And so you meet Matthew and you guys or on the show together and then and then of course, that makes sense. And you guys, that makes sense to me.

by the way yeah, he's great. He's really, really great.

And you guys had not had never met before the show we had met.

which he reminded me about, which I don't know if he told you guys on the share of witty.

I think, remember this.

yeah, we we had gone to fight training or something in the first week. Well, we screen tested everything, did the fight training. And so I ve known him just like that now. And then we were having lunch after some kind of crazy fight training.

And he said, we've met before and now, yeah, I remember that yeah and he said, we, you know, we were that kickball party and rested canyon, and we were the last people at the barbecue, whatever. And I was trying to get you to stay. And so I was trying to open a beer with about a beer he tried to do with this thun.

And I know exactly. I said, oh my god, of course I remember you like to drunk a message, my machine. And I was moving to new york that day and so it'd ve been .

ten years .

had past and then and then game.

So so I don't feel so bad that he didn't remember seeing you in the garden of the thing. Teacher, didn't member? SHE.

didn't member, remember? OK, I get, I get, I get. I have one of those faces, but I love a good, I love a good love story. So to the exchange, you feel comfortable. What changed from the, you know, when you when you try to open the beer for you?

Yeah, the .

kickball.

Do you do a lot of other hipster stuffed parties like playing kickabout games?

no. But like what what change for you? Ten years later, that didn't Spark the first time.

who knows? OK, trying to think.

trying to think, no.

you have a haircut. Matthew.

is haircut Better? Number one, you know, I don't ever want to go back to my twenty. I am not saying there are certain things about in our bodies now as they are aging.

But I like who I am so much more. Now you like, I look at my girlfriends. I think they are so beautiful. Now I don't even want to come back to twenty. I just I love our age now.

And I think I think in our thirties, or when I met him again, which would have been in my mid thirties about them, I just was a different person. You know what I mean, I was, and I wanted something different. I also think they're Carry.

And this is a kind of its Carry to you, Carry, which is that like you probably don't remember because you you're not enough that person and I don't think that like I think you'd remember somebody if you actually had a real conversation.

you really connected .

and distracted by shy moving objects at all. You're you really a real person no.

i'm distracted by shiny.

anything, frosting.

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Things are nice to.

but mission impossible. Credible.

impossible. Do IT right? So I think what.

you never know what the rabbits foot was.

Never knew what the rabbits foot. But I like, I want to be like, no turn out. IT was it's colling never ending story. Did the movie end?

It's sure did.

yes.

So I mean, class action love you much. I mean.

but I love, I love that. And then when you were, when I was revealed that was you in in star wars, I mean, I was blown away like that was the sorry.

I ve IT. I mean.

I was watching and and even something like, who is that I recognize your voice, but I couldn't because we didn't see your face. I was like, did you ever reveal yourself?

I don't think you well jji never wanted me to revealed my face. I never wanted to reveal the face. And then at the a certain point, I think that was a studio or something said you have to show your face.

And jj, like, no, it's I had ideas. It's like, I was like that girl, there was some cartoon with a girl on a motorcycle from when he was a kid who always had a helman on. And then he was like, well, what if we just show her eyes? And so that was, but I think they .

wanted me to take the home.

And that was such a kick as amazing.

I must have. And just knowing, shown that he was from andella. I mean, that must have been for you, right? Knowing that how many .

moons and IT was .

a way was like from that you must have been like just an an paying attention to a kid's story must be so cool for you.

I love, I like and then I haven't seen cocaine AR and I really, really want. I see. But I heard it's great and it's been out for a while.

It's so stupid and crazy and nuts. And margo Martin deal is, I mean, you guys, what is it's ridiculous in wild and it's such IT was just an antidote to cove IT and everyone being stuck in their houses and IT .

in the greatest banks.

And my friend was making, we love me .

and you guys were in ireland.

I was pitching me this completely other legit, serious, really good idea for this limited series. And we're just long with these writers and having these serious conversations and then text exchanges. Or i've got this.

do you like .

this crazy movie called coke very? You want to read IT like asia? And I told my girlfriends, I have these few girlfriends in york here, and I was up in the mountains with them, and they said, I told them, I pitched them the idea for the story.

And they said, if you don't do that movie, what am I going to be? And IT was so fun. Jesse tither, ferguson, marter, Martin deal and I tripes around ireland out of control. We were out of control having .

the time island.

because the covin members were down, right? And because it's an island, I guess, and because it's a good match for that forest we were .

looking for margus one of those people see. So um years ago, he wanted to since I was doing a movie and he wanted her for this before, like the .

the .

the to in .

place, he said and so I said to margo, I said, hey, john krinsky wants to get touch with that OK so he talked to some and SHE come SHE goes i'm going to do this fucking out i'm going to do this before you a Better work out because you Better not a fuck you put me on with this fucking SHE literally like kind of my suda threatened me and like, I was like, I just put you in touch with them is not my you didn't .

have to get next day text being IT just as mark and he says, are you fucking in doing this movie? I was like, you think this movie, but I was like, now i'm definitely .

doing this movie in one of the hardest, one of the hardest laughs i've ever had in my life is doing that series. The Miller is with margo, and we did this episode effort. He was this thing where both bridges with doing the same, this thing.

And mark, I start up and he got me laughing. I couldn't. It's the first time of my life like I don't think i'm going to recover from.

I don't think we're gona get IT. I don't think I can do this. I think it's a rap. I have to go and I couldn't look at her SHE had me laugh me so hard.

He's I care. What are you excited about that coming up going to .

do the rest of the day? I be honest, I stayed up late too late last night, so I woke up in the morning. I had left over indian food. IT was fucked and delicious.

I'm telling a beer with IT.

yeah.

And I love that. I'm gonna. We made our first kind of chilly here in new york this morning, our first fire and IT.

And you want a fireplace? Yes, no, sorry. That's that's fun. One of fun is so the rest of day you going to be a of.

see my kids, my kids starts school for the first day tomorrow, so i'm getting everyone going to make a nice dinner, family dinner, early dinner ever and early bed. what? Yes, i'm gonna make skirt steak and unch of vegetables and rice. And .

yeah, I love that. Yeah, I love. By the way, i've never been a brooklin. I, I want to, I to.

I have you. We could have you.

I my around Carry.

i'm coming to new york in a .

couple weeks for will remember .

when I ran into the .

street with shooting. I was like.

well, dude, I was shooting and there's a hole like the crew we're .

doing in shooting one of .

the one of those niner turtle movies. Yes.

he just blue right by the lock up on. Now I know we are .

showing right on the river overlooking the city. Yeah, here comes Carry, of course, stops. No way the crew w stops her, because they are like, I Carry is Carry, rustle, just walks through, basically walk through, set to go.

Hammer, just walk in home.

walk at home, I know, but I was going to say him coming in a couple of .

ways that have dinner and of me and matter.

can you god Carry? I wish you would just hang out for we will.

I I would love to see you. We have chance in encounters from neutral people, satellite people. But I would love to see you .

OK well .

Carry and just brightened .

up our day. It's so seeing you, it's always a delight.

always to see .

each other. The force.

please do. I would .

love .

to love.

Okay, I .

here.

I just .

a delight, just a Sunny delight.

I SHE just is .

sunday afternoon. She's just just drink a beer, drinking a beer and eating some indian left over indian food because she's little hung over SHE.

Seems like one of those people that everybody wants to be friends with.

She's so fun. When we did, we did run well together and we uh SHE would be we had so much fun. She's a kind of person doing her off camera would be throwing shit at me.

which like a super easy fun hang really.

really fun, really prepared, really in IT, really just disciplined and professional, but cool and real. You could laugh with her and then yeah teller er you know SHE and I am both with times we were both going through stuff in our personal lives and we were and SHE was such a good friend to me and we were talk about stuff and are really just I love IT and and by the way.

he drives her entire career like SHE makes the decisions and but speaking of driving, anyway, I said you guys a video when we were in new york of a of an uber driver. Do you remember that?

Oh, I do remember .

that that and he was, he was really kind, and he was from china. And his real, true, this is a true story. His real name is called B, A, I Y I. And I gotten the car and I asked him how you pronounce IT, and I sent IT to you.

But it's well .

IT again. B, A I.

Y, I, A.

and how would you pronounce?

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