"Gillian Anderson"
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Welcome everyone. We're going to start you off with with a couple of nice soft balls here brought you by hacky haze.

My wife asked me the other day where I got so much Candy. I said, I always have a few weeks at my slave.

what? what? Hang on, we got one more.

another .

one.

H I hate my job. All I do is crush cancer all day. It's so depressing.

I'm gonna smart less.

I went to go to a .

broadway show last night. china. I thought about you what you see? I saw all mary.

Oh, I did see IT. I've did the best. Okay, I was.

I was gonna commend IT to you. But you've seen IT.

Yeah, i've been. yeah.

Did you think what I loved that I thought .

was one of the funniest things that i've .

ever seen in my life? I was thinking about you the whole time thing. Oh my gosh. Hn gonna do this. But in mind on this.

I mean, IT seemed like he I mean.

I know he didn't, but IT seemed like he's watch you do a thousand of your funny bits in front of us and stolen the mall.

No, no calls in original. He's great cola, cola stars.

And so I was telling in march.

yes, guys.

well, was first I did.

I didn't go.

Have you not seen in yet? Well, you'll p in your pants.

So I was off broadway then.

yes. Now it's on a cola.

Cola plays mary tid lincoln, who an alcoholic want to be cab star and a lincoln, i'm lincoln, doesn't let her leave the White house so he hires an acting coach for her so he could just know, explore her, don't reveal anymore. Okay, that. But how about the end?

How funny was that? Is fucked and great to the whole thing is incredible. Yeah, well, you ve got to get on IT you to get yourself pose of system culture, you know.

get out of wait, Frank. see. IT SHE.

said SHE and I, we had a date night. I was great. Yeah, what did you got your hand on a bug there?

You point out I .

got three hands in his hair.

Dow right now. No, I had a more step on IT.

Make sure you step on IT like that.

You don't have to do IT while we're .

doing the try .

to hit your scalp .

or what you you could for .

you could save to that after we would know.

I forgot, take IT off this morning, but I need at the air .

get how was your more removal?

IT was good, painful. Yeah, I know IT wasn't painful, was just IT was big.

Man was home. So this was a result of age. Well, bet you went and you get yourself comed like like a cat you got for all your skin cancer. Yeah, yeah.

everybody y's gotto do that.

By the way, we're joking. But you know, get yourself in there and get yourself checked. If you, if you're of a certain age, a lot a lot of dam like yeah and then go head and vote vote .

at the place to get up by the way.

that'd be great if they did that while you are waiting. Yeah stuff like that where you can get bring back ship, you can to get a bunch of different shit down at once.

You get a how about just to clear election day a national holiday? And let me take something I know our surprise guest .

is a fee. Be a national holiday.

obviously should be a national holiday for all the obvious reasons. And but at the same time, imagine if you could IT on that day, get a bunch of stuff down. You could get, if you wanted to get a brazilian, you saying.

if whatever .

your thing.

go here and get you up and coach.

yeah. So that was all these, my body coach in the back. You put, you bring your pet, and they're to shame, pushed.

get your dark wash.

shame. Put the pens.

Now the pet will be the front.

the front place shown. Get ahead. Sorry.

whenever you order food from for takeout, like from a restaurant, do you sometimes order extra so you don't have to like as a grocery shopping kind of so .

like you like I just getting .

a brazilian and now you're talking about shopping the now you're doing .

about getting cash back when you get to groceries.

what's no, no, no. When you go, when you, what do you do and when you order, take out from restaurant, sometimes all ordering extra milor something put in the fridge, so my shopping, so that I don't have to, so that I just have a meal I could pop in the college.

What are .

you doing, man?

It's true.

What's that?

A grower, shopping.

go out and america. This is spoken nearby. Guy was got a full time chef. Yeah, okay.

So I don't. My full time .

chef is mean five days a week 在。 So is he offended at all that you're doubling up attention because you don't have confidence in her?

And I never know .

extra.

Is this your way because sometimes you feel back because you've ordered so much food so you justified by so it's for tomorrow.

something like that yeah wait.

shiny. Are you in new york? Is that in new york behind?

Yeah yeah oh um how .

come on to hanging out?

What's going on? Because you work every day for seventeen thousand hours.

But if you're j be how you are you in the weekend in the city? J first week you've been there for.

well, I don't i'm not crazy bad because I feel like missing, you know, my wife and my Youngest daughter back in L. A. I should have gone back and picked up maple from a farm camp or so he was living at farm camp for a month. Up in northern california is sleep and outside in a tent .

and taking care. And by the way, I think the farm campus is amazing. But you imagine going back hundred and fifty years bring somebody from the from the past and they come and they go, who working on a farm and quit system. This farm camp IT is a bug from in new york. They don't .

know .

what coming here .

to play firm.

These kids are living away. Did you go to school? Yeah, when at school all the way was .

nine you know .

the far farm you guys .

we got to get to us. She's just something here. Listen to us wasting or fuck.

And so you're going to love this because yet she's done a lot of iconic stuff on TV, stuff that I can't mentioned, even stuff that was my favorite. But she's got a lot of theater. She'd been nominated for a bunch of Olivia.

She's done SHE had planned to bind three car to great to claim in the, well SHE sort of british kind of was raised there. Then move back. And I was lived there .

again for years.

but but born in chicago.

sean, do you think you might have a story about maybe something crazy that .

happened on something Better get ready.

Better get ready with the story .

with remember about you and you, good hines in chicago. And then so she's won all these award, should be nominated for all this stuff. She's on dozens of films, but I love her in in that amazing, serious the fall.

But I also loved her in the amazing series the crown. But I also loved there is and everybody else is amazing. FBI special agent dana scully, guys.

please.

is illian did you .

say special? I think you .

know what the notes gave me? I made the question, but they sent me that.

hello, jelly.

my guy. You guys are various. Oh my god, you guys are. So.

thank you so much for being here, joining us on this, on this blessed day.

I been such a .

fan for so long. I know you hear there's all the time. I like all of your work, but you know when you're .

a Young one that really disappoint.

So no, just when you're a Young person and a end stuff stays in your DNA, the x piles the state has is part of me. So therefore you are a part of mate. So thank you. Yeah.

know the truth is so .

I woke up this morning feeling like I was part of you.

What the questions .

that what are the .

questions that you weren't ask about x files when .

you you I remember one time being after the awards standing back stage, you know where they take you back stage and you've got that that the tear of um tears of prospect they are in the backroom somebody said, do you believe in aliens which of course, by that point I been asked everything about my life and I think I might have said, are you fucking kidding and I put IT out of my mouth. I was like, really, that's what you're gna fuck to ask me. Oh my god.

Shon you do though? right? absolutely.

Do you believe there's .

probably something out there? IT probably doesn't look like the egg pad, but it's probably some .

sort of anytime anything is on T, V about is there? Isn't there? I watch IT and am all right.

you and what is that on? You're just you find IT like interesting. You find that exciting. You're hoping you want to get you trying to get off this globe.

Yeah no, I just think it's fascinating that the whole concept that we come from something we don't know. So and I think there's answers there that that what you got and life .

you get abducted like they've revealed themselves in and then they started to like murder you you like I thought you'd fun and interesting.

but are you saying that you think that alien life form shown might be responsible .

for the start of my japan?

I believe, I believe that that mankind .

came from a higher sort of more complex life form of of sort of aliens and stuff posed to the aliens and mankind coming from sort of like a god like creator. Open, we come from the alien i'm open about.

But I lean towards the alien thing only because did you see prometheus, did you see the movie matheus.

I think so. Hollywood feature. When I say star wars, how much of that is what you about .

finish with?

He's got the .

answers, guys.

So like watch .

ancient aliens. You have watch ancient aliens. And we watched all the time and all these theories about all the higher gliff ics that show engraved into the walls about like things, they're all looking up at these sauces, flying things, and they're all kind of similar.

Twenty of our episodes, two of our two hundred and twenty episodes were .

about those guys yeah I .

and how how far how far your house from the news's library do you think? Hey, anyway.

jillian, welcome.

So welcome jillion jillian. Speaking of a the one thing I do when to ask you is at what point? Obviously, x files play a huge part in the early part of your career, and you've gone to do so many amazing things, and I think of so many different things. But I wonder .

around it's one .

of those things. And sure, you can kind of know what this is. I can, Jason, you do to when you do something that that is such a sort of hit that crosses all demographics eeta at a, at a Young age, when you look back on your experience with export, is that, is that a positive feeling? Are you like? H, that was the greatest thing, or and did IT open all these .

millions of doors, or always, this is what i'm using as a planner.

IT. You know what happens when you you're on a long running show is everything becomes so in mention and not incestuous, but you literally feel like you're living and breathing. This know the entire crew, the entire experience.

And so I think by the time we were done after, you know, we did nine years, and I think I was well ready for IT to be over and IT took me a while to to properly think of, I think I departmentalize ed that I I so wanted to get off IT and start doing the things that I thought my career was going to be before I said yesterday that job. So I, you know, I imagined i'd be doing, but every film I imagine i'd be doing all this, you know. And so I really wanted to, on the one hand, forget that that happened and and bounce off IT to the stuff that I really wanted to do.

But then no, was probably about five years when I said, because when you're doing something like that, all anybody says, oh my god, the show, oh my god, is the most amazing and you don't want to hear that anymore. You don't, you don't. You've heard IT so much. And then I suddenly got what they were talking about. Like, five years after the show ended, I was kind like, yeah, that was kind of cool.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was on this really cool show.

Yeah but that is interesting .

how like the things that that sort of like landed all four of us with a career are things that i'll bet you none of us would have said this would be the exact thing that would condition the audience and the industry to the kind of person and career I want to have. And it's like you basically is not take what you get, but your appreciative of the job at the time. But then by the time you're done with the job, guess what? That's who you are now. And now what what do I do with this? And this is this is I hope I don't like i'm complaining at all because I could not be more appreciative of you know and i'm sure you guys would agree where where we're at and but you tack towards what you're now identified and labeled as and and build on that or or or or try to offset that a little bit and have a little bit more of a of a different kind of career with.

It's like but you need time to reckon with that. You you need time and space to be able to figure out what that actually means to you because for the last however long, you've hearing what that means to everybody else and you but we have .

those of people on here all the time just that that have unfortunate gh to do what you do, which is you actually have gone on and created a whole identity for yourself as an actress, as one of the leading voices and actresses in in the business.

And export just happens to be one of the jobs you ve done as most of thing I did to take IT.

IT takes a while. IT takes both because IT takes you saying not a lot of stuff for IT also. Um I I remember at the big one of the first things that I cause after the the series ended, I I didn't know if I could be on a set again.

I didn't know that for myself. I just felt like I knew that I just needed to get away from los Angeles and that so I I had grown up in london. I moved back to london and I and I the first thing I did was a play, but the second thing I did, I was offered was in a british BBC, a short series of a of bleak house and, you know, costume drama.

And and when they offered IT to me with without an audition, I literally in the meeting with the producers, I said to them, what makes you think I can do this? Because I I know I could do IT, but I just spent ten years doing exactly the opposite of that. And yes, I was so curious.

what did you see in .

me yeah that I yeah I feel like maybe has been lost or that no .

and I said.

remember ah i'm sorry we .

thought you were.

Like to watch people fail.

Yes, I can remember what they said. I mean, I think that somewhere in the work that I didn't expose, they gleaned that I could, you know, that I could act. I supposed to. What I felt like I was doing was not news, but of course I will. I mean, what you know, we got to we learn how to be actors during that very design, right?

We'll be right back.

And now back to the show.

Where did you grow up in chicago by the way we go?

Well, I I I didn't. I I was born there six months later. We moved to pororo because my um story goes that my my dad wanted to go to film school and he said to my mom, I want to go film school.

Do you wanted to be last you want to move to los Angeles or london and he said london and so they didn't have any money to move to london and so we have left the apartment apparently moved porter ico, where my dad's parents were living. And we basically slept on the sofa for a year and a half so my parents could save money and we can move to london. So I only got like six months there.

Remember where you were born?

Yeah, at six mary's hospital and cook county like I actually ended up back there because when I went to college, I moved to like a wka park bucktown area before IT was weaker part button, still a low income about families.

And how long are you in in england?

A until I was eleven. So from about year .

to the film, also when you were in in london, and you day will see an editor.

Is that right? No, nobody. He wanted to be a camera. He wanted to be a director, filmmaker and after, but then we, they fell in love in london. We were always going to stay.

We eventually, you know, could afford to rent a decent to Better apartment. And so so we stayed. And he got, you know, various jobs working in various places. And and then he got a call from A A film school friends and a fellow american who basically said, I am starting to make industrial films, come to grand rapids, michigan and get rich quick and he said.

okay, yeah.

i'm going to do that so you were and we ended up moving to go, went from london to gram up its michigan wow.

And there you stayed until .

until I went to college, which was to the government dator school.

So so then your sort of your Spark was kind of lit by your father's interest in in business know I think .

I was think the high school and I went to in gramm rapids um there was an an english teacher. We didn't IT was an academic high school and I mean, I I said I said there's so many times, but the only reason I got them was because I I had an action and know I know other Normal circumstance. Ces, I don't think I I would have made IT into the academic high school, but so I got into that.

And there was no theater department of sports, so anything. And so but there was an english teacher who a couple times a year or semesters whatever he would direct to play, that would be put on in the lunch room. And at one point.

I town and I played from .

the election, some medicine, whether they're theater or food related, either either flying with.

But I remember asking for another sandwich so I could take a home IT for another meal. I remember I school .

yeah anyway so I think .

that was probably what ended up um getting me interested and then I started auditioning for a community there wow.

I I love the good one thing I did to play there few years ago. It's so great.

but and what was the first gig that you got that you are like, oh, you know what? I can really do this. I think that not I can do this, not that I have the ability, but this is gonna. I can have a life doing this. I can have a career.

I can make a live, but I think one of one of the community, uh, shows that I audition for and was cast in, you know, was the first time that I was properly doing something professional. No, and there must have been end. So you know, I think I I suddenly felt like, oh, I can actually do that, like, I can do this. There is something I can do. And and IT really changed my .

life around. Do you .

remember what I was? Yeah, I was IT was overnight. And girl sang, IT was a british, I think, a world war two play. And but anyway, you know, the place or whatever got to me how? sixteen?

anything? Wow, sixteen. That's Young to have that kind of.

well, all over sad. You know, before that I was sitting on the back steps with the, with the you smoking weeds in my lunch break and not doing my home work, and suddenly that's something in that, in the inspiration and feeling like suddenly I had a purpose going to shift to everything around. And I started doing Better in school, and I was voted most improved student.

I wish a back in a component.

Yeah, when the only way is up yeah you know what?

You're not an idiot. But the woman, that is because, like jb, you grew up doing this. So you always knew that I was a viable thing. But for people like us who don't come out, who who weren't born into IT, there is that moment. So I don't know. I asked you the same thing, which is that moment where you're like, I think there are plenty people who I grew up with who never thought that I would ever be, make a life out of doing this, you know, have lots of good friends to go yeah, you could put a lot of people like, yeah, nice try. It's a big fucking scary.

I mean, I think when I started to addition theory schools, I mean, the for one, I didn't occur to me that I wasn't gna get in like I didn't have that base, so I didn't for the government, there's go. Meanwhile, they only take know twenty people every year.

I didn't I don't know what I would have done and if I didn't get in but anyway but my dad SAT me down and said this is impossible career to get into and you've got ta have a backup and he he he was trying to convince me to study word processing because he knew that computers were gonna like be a thing and um and that I could always get a job on the side when I wasn't acting or able to act or getting hired, that i'd be able to teach people how to do what I know to help them on their computers. Which is a fantastic piece of advice for somebody else. I just, you know, there was no way in hell that I was gna never I would.

My brain just doesn't work that way. But it's a great piece of advice. Yeah yes. And the kids of things that i'm saying to my sons right now, you know, I I have .

a contingency today.

Yes, this part of people's lives, i'm surprised there's not more stories about or or movies about our TV shows about because like there's tons of movies and TV shows about like falling in love or decided to have children or grappling with mortality. And here comes death, and somebody y's got a terminal but diagnoses. No one ever does anything about like that moment where every Young adult has that scary question about, what am I going to do with my life?

Who I gna be.

who am I going to be? Is IT going to should I pursue something that i'm passionate about to the extent you even know what your passion about yet at that age? Or should I pursue something that's going to give me a path towards Price .

but doesn't not feel like an idea from the nineteen and eighties or something these .

days is different. I guess IT is. But there's always jumping off points and everybody has a different height from which they're jumping off.

There's more different risk. And choosing what that lane is, what the industry is looks like IT is so important. It's like one of the biggest folks and anyone life what you're going to actually put your weight behind and choose to study in college or take that first job after college before or during project have got a seventeen year old and twelve year old and like they're dealing with that right now. Well, i'm sure you know your new boys are thinking about as well as like it's like a big, big fork and you go let .

right and god is god .

is going through IT but like it's not .

something people talk about a lot.

you know is true. We all go through his parents. We all enjoy that with.

But I would say the Younger you figure that out, the higher success rate, right?

Younger if end up being the thing that you do. It's like I always say, like a lot of stuff happens on your way to something else. Like if you just driven and motivated to do something, it's okay if IT doesn't end up being that, but at least your your feet are moving forward.

Yeah, yes, tally. yeah. I remember.

I remember moving to new york when I was twenty and just and I didn't not know a single person in new york and I just thought.

fuck IT like.

fucking go. I was in college and and I dropped out. I I just have not nobody has any real direction.

Um they're getting really good at being a being a senior sixty or senior seventy year, senor.

whatever is. I'm glad of great people. But but at the same time, I just like factors a whole world out there I want to get in .

IT I want to get, but that's a thing that I think a lot of teams these days are the the the thing of the whole world as an oyster in a way that obviously that's very privileged perspective to have。 Um but 不是， i feel like kids these days, that's not necessarily the perspective that that they have IT doesn't feel like that is what is on offer anymore. There's something there's so and I don't .

know what the degree .

is no harder. So many kids are funding right now. So many tears are just are Young because of you.

Yes, IT IT IT is on the one hands.

You're seeing the world out there because everybody's posting them in their holidays on the other son. Is that the other? But IT feels so unreactive and so you know it's actually has the opposite effect.

I think for a little kind of don't agree .

more in in this idea that, that you can kind of go your phone and lose yourself into all four courts and you're not really experiencing anything. You're getting the my double mean hits itself. There are lots of books about IT right now. But at the same time, you're not actually getting that real world experience that we all have the privilege of getting.

And while you're looking at you're sitting next to your friend not having a conversation, while they're looking at somebody like to an obvious ly, there's times of books about IT.

But I A really serious problem today as you can. I nerd out on the fall. I love that shows so much and I wish it's one of those shows that I wish I could watch IT again for the first time because I found IT so in growing IT was so gripping and and what was that process like? Your counter is very intense on that show.

Well, IT was, I mean, the premise is great. So in the show, dear you, with the the serial killer for an equal amount of uh a screen time as you are the superintended detective who is tracking him, which is me and I I think that was the first time. I don't know what the first time, but I was I felt quite unique, you know that felt quite unique at the time and I was so I started, you know I started where I was brought a script and um i'd been in in the in the process of producing something myself that I couldn't just I couldn't get there. There was I was really, really struggling with the writers and and um and the other producers to get the script to where I needed to be.

And then this script landed in my lap and I was like, not that is that is writing and I was so spare no IT was just IT was like, and i've spoken about this before, I felt like when I was reading IT at my experience of the character at almost despite the fact that that was so spare, IT felt like my fusion with her was almost out make. And because there wasn't a lot to go on in a typical american way of reading a script where it's all disco, all the descriptions are in the directives in between, where you get so much information, you feel like IT was slightly treated like an idiot. But this was really a beautifully, beautifully spare.

And yet you just got who he was, what the world was, who the different voices were in, and IT was. So I was really special, and, you know, I, I, I met them. And you know, that produces in the draft or and and IT was a fantastic expert.

I just come off if I don't know which version of which hollywood thing I had just finished doing, but all of a sudden I was in belfast shooting this little series and IT was a real collaboration you know, I was I went from from being on something where I was so detached and so not part of the creative process to all of a sudden being with these guys in belfast and really immersed and included in the conversation and um you know in the end got to make notes on the edit and all that kind of stuff. So I was the first time that I was being allowed into that part of IT and know if I wanted to go back to london, you know, I was a matter of texting the travel coordinator, as opposed to sending an email to somebody of fox. A month later, they tell you that, yes, you, you can and cannot take that place. So I felt like the whole experience of IT was like, this is, this is, this is the real thing.

This is what I want to do.

This is what I want to do. This was an extraordinary character I felt for the before I aid, when I started to do press, I remember saying to the press who had really seen, yeah, you know, they do or they don't watch the screeners that they're I kept thinking she's really good for a woman like he needs to be out there. There's something about her I think that is going to be incredibly uh, empowering for for women. And I don't think we've seen someone like her before on this Green. I had the .

same of impact to me as D. C. I tenison from prime suspect there.

There are a lot of similarities. Very, very strong. I mean, you bring a lot of trends to your characters. You played the one of a bunch of various strong characters throughout your career.

You including market thatchers, going to say you kind of go from that to not directly, you do stuff in between, but then you do. The playmaker is feature, which in the crown to greater claim. And really just a wonderful form, incredible perform. And I just think like that must bring with IT its own set of risks and chAllenges and burdens. And you invite tremens amount of criticism, right?

The thing is, those kind of things come along and you, you, you cannot say, yes. I mean, you can. You know, I mean, I I think I always you have to say yes to those things and then deal with your fear afterwards almost. And you know it's the same thing with doing Peter is is saying yes, two things that are terrifying.

And then at some point when you're half way through rehearsal, you know, you like, what the fuck was I thinking? Like what made me think that I could do or that I shouldn't know? I'm stuck and I gotta do this in front of a thousand people every single night.

Like what is wrong with? Or then it's over and you've crushed IT and now you've got the confidence and now you're ready to take .

on even something bigger. The thing you can say yes, because yeah.

that's what I always thought, that the confidence about stuff lives on the back side of actually doing IT know it's completely appropriate that you're fearful beforehand and you shouldn't worry about the fact that you're not confident going into IT because confident lives on the back side .

of actually you have done and .

then IT gives you courage enough to say yes to this thing next time. That is even a bit screen or a bit, or you don't .

worry about the result and you just do the work.

A man, brother, thank you.

I think for .

thatcher was a bit of that, which is okay. I'm GTA. Do I going to do everything I can to try and succeed with this? I'm gonna stop working on a here in advance.

I'm gonna study everything, what everything, and you show up and you just do your best job. And you don't know until the afterwards whether people I go, oh my god, did you see that peace? Like, what was he thinking? Yeah.

we'll be right back.

And now back to the show. Do you remember .

the first day i've been there with the hair and all of IT? And here we go. Fucked this Better fucked and work because I am out on this mother.

Fuck can look amazing. I passed just, you know, I was first .

you would agree with the wardrobe that was.

yeah I can but the thing is you see her siller wet, you see you know the minute that goes on and and you get into costume and you see the the silla alone. I couldn't talk like deafy duck. Had you been at art, been living .

in in, in england for a while before you started doing that?

Yeah, I, so we finished tax files and two thousand and two, and I moved to the u. Back to the U. K. We were always gonna ve back again, and I was a kid, and we just never did.

And so IT was always a dream of mine to at least be, you know, part of my life to be back there. So I went back and I did to play, and then stayed. And so i've been living there since two thousand .

and two wow and was the extra pressure playing mark thatcher being a resident now like because you know being in america, you can play markets thatch and maybe if if you did go sideways, you'd get A A little more space between you.

those who might, I think because, you know, most of the theater work that I was offered as a Young person was were british place know I did the philanthropic adapts and friends on problem. I did all I kept because my, because of my accident. That was basically my first way of speaking was with a british accent.

So that was easy for me. And so I was in living in the U. K. They've kind of adopted me from quite early on of being back there as a professional person post expose, as being a now theyve taken me on as being one of them anyway.

playing somebody that has that iconic history they are in that particular .

SHE is such a divisive character. I mean, people feel really, really strongly about mark thatter. And not all of IT is positive. So in playing her period there or from over, you know, whether we shouted in the states to be air there, IT would be the same reaction. The people that hate her so hater, and the people .

that injian just to transfer.

Second, it's quite a responsibility being the person who asked .

the the .

second person on the I want to talk you about your book want and and I want to ask if IT came post doing your show sex education or prior to have that all yeah IT came so .

so in sex education I play um it's in netflix series. We did four seasons I play a sex therapist and um in the process of or during the the period of time of being on that show know my character's house is filled with sex parthenia and pictures of vagina and penises and all kinds eat ten tric stuff on the walls and I kept taking pictures and so I kept waiting to post these pictures and the girl who does my because I don't post things myself. The dance, my instagram, you can you can't post IT this is like a peut that they're not going to let instagram, not going to let you post a penis.

So is that true?

That is not true.

I can tell you that is untrue.

Anyway, I started posting them anyway, and I would do like a unique of the day, or penis of the day. And people would sends me pictures of penises ronis in nature, like a pootle with, yeah, start this kind of thing, penis of in nature. But anyway, so my professional life started to mix ingle a little bit with my personal life in the next, an example of anything to do with my.

Personally, I don't ever pose personal things, but so there was a, you know, across pollination that was happening there and so I I people would talk to me I may not in a therapeutic way but I A lot of stuff that came to me was since then has been part of that bigger conversation about sexual well being and um and particularly for for women and so in the seventies, Nancy friday, I wrote a book called my secret garden and SHE did the introductions to chapters and he invited women to send in letters to her about their sexual fantasies ies and IT was a book that so anonymous letters from women, particularly mostly in america, writing about their sexual fantasies and IT was like a number one but all of us sudden everybody want women were Carrying IT in their process but IT was a real insight into you know what women think about when they think about tax and we thought we discussed doing a modern day version of IT to see whether know in the age of sorry. Funny pornography and and you know shows like x education or ephori or you know where everything is out there all the time and you have access to what degree have fantasies, particularly for women, changed over time? And so I put a call out about year and a half ago, two women around the world to, right to me, anonymous ly, bloom's reset up a porto so that they could do IT.

Anonymous ly. And we collected about eighteen hundred women, started writing letters, and we end about eight hundred of them, finished them. And then we've put about one hundred and seventy .

four of them in the book. Wow.

that's wild. So some of them didn't finish. I'm just going some of them .

didn't finish.

great.

Now, did you did you notice a big difference between the, the, the content of of those sexual fantasies are now versus years ago in the original book?

But the most interesting thing to me is the degree to which there are so many rules today about what is appropriate and what is not, whether back then animals show up and um wow I think .

that would .

be the opposite. Yeah you think that would be the opposite. But um we've got the most extraordinary letters is from you know Young teens who have yet to have sex talking about their fancy to mothers of many children, single parents and what it's like trying to do the same old, same old with your partner to you know twenty some things in the dating world and how what exists in their head is different from what they experience out in the real world to you it's a real it's really interesting and we've got letters from literally all over the world so there's we also ask the woman um you know we also invited um the trans community and gender quare people and um yeah IT IT feels quite a galley arian IT feels it's how does .

that word mean equal h oh yeah IT feels like it's an .

equal opportunity for anybody to pitch in and to talk about their experience and and IT does IT I heard .

you'd like thousands of letters and AManda a from us. Angeles, this is unconfirmed, very unsatisfied.

There was a run on stamps in our in our local police office.

A man, where are you going? I'm running to post .

jack letters. And really, well, cool. It's a really .

interesting.

I would have thought that poor showed up a lot more in the fantasy is is a lot of there's a lot of women, no matter how intense the fantasy gets at the end of the day, just wanting to be seen for who they are, just wanting to be held, wanting care, wanting somebody to look in their eyes, wanting or or you know, the opposite woman who by day are in charge of five hundred employees, and to see of this that in the other, and they just want somebody else to be in control. So so you know and so it's just it's it's fascinating.

Well, why are you crying?

Well, not me. What is going? I'm just saying, hold me jelly maison, you have been more than generous with your time on what I imagine your day off.

And so thank you so much. Thanks for everything. Been such a thousand .

years .

for the longest time yeah and .

and and your new book .

is good.

baby.

You do you read .

the so I .

rote the introduction .

to each charter and I read the introductions. But then there are women, are other women .

who made. Don't I can't at the hang of the reading, it's up the bottom left.

Hi.

and thank you. thanks.

Thank you. So nice to meet .

guys I found .

of your show. And yeah, thanks. alright.

Enjoy the rest of time.

Thank you. Thank you. And Anderson.

well, nice guest.

Yeah, good guest. right?

Yeah.

yeah. She's a talent. She's a talent. She's I mean, but it's interesting because he did denis cui as we put IT out her a character that everybody knows massive hit global, not just one of those .

huge big and came .

back huge globally came back. They made a couple movies in the intro. But to be able to kind of step out of that and then step into a and not just step into one more iconic role, but step into like three or four other eight or ten great roles continuously and recreate, reinvent or yourself. Yes, super, super tough to do and super adverb .

super and by the way, it's always while we talked a little bit about IT, when you associate somebody so much with the character that made them famous ah and then you see them in interviews outside of that world, just her having that t shirt on the wooden plan shirt and talking about her kid you just see her as and then mark t toucher, of course, and all the other stuff you see.

Here's a completely different human being. Yeah, then he is a total chill, cool, really smart, interesting person.

We can revisit shaan theory on evolution. Yes.

I love. Yes, yes. So okay, spaceship planted.

So the spaceships, so do all the humans come out of the spaceship, or just just two of them. And then like, sort like an adam, eve.

they come down. No, no. We we .

have to .

have.

we have to have .

cat come .

from somewhere, right? Somebody or something made us right. But we're not the only planet in the entry have this nonsense .

about the big bang, right? All the .

science stuff know all that, but i'm just saying we can't be the only species. So because we're not the only species and and there is intelligent life, like if you don't think there's a more intelligent life.

no, we all good. That's not in dispute. But where I think people are saying that perhaps these other the alien life form also came from what was originally a sort of, uh, created with sort of this big bang and and as response for the bang, I don't you're suggesting that maybe the aliens let that views correct?

I don't know. It's a hoo as much as I could be a what I could, but i'm able to anything .

big exhaust stem A O E yeah something like so .

but you're saying .

you're saying at some point somebody from came here .

that's right, right?

That's not from nao because give .

me a break now right?

But definitely suddenly from comino entirely they came .

to you about jack. Note that sorry .

jack jaco you know jack ah not about noble male you know it's funny my cousin he's from my cousin from he's from alderman .

and he i'm sorry, i'm sorry about his passing.

They bloop at the planet.

They bloop the whole planet.

Don't know stuff about IT ah stop knowing should none of it's .

real ready. Member.

so if you know everything shown, then what would you call someone who's got dual citizenship like he does you know she's from she's got england, she's .

got amErica and by it's .

not coastal, it's not back to the microphone. He would be, by what?

By what mean?

Anything but coastal? Mother fucker, it's two countries. Bro.

by lingual? no. By one is the speak english?

No, I don't know the answer, but I want .

to .

Better .

than by postal.

You guys, you guys are at odds right now. And I want you to be in the world, I want you to be more in sink, and I want you to be bye bye .

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