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CI/CDagger

2024/12/6
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Ship It! Cloud, SRE, Platform Engineering

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Autumn Nash
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Dave Rosenthal
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Gerhard Lazu
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Justin Garrison
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Kurt Mackey
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Dave Rosenthal: Sentry 正在努力实现全应用健康监控,将日志、指标和错误监控等数据整合到一个平台,通过 Trace ID 关联所有数据,方便开发者调试和分析。这将提高系统的可调试性,方便开发者分析和解决问题,并能够检测到更多类型的错误。

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Key Insights

Why did Gerhard Lazu start the Ship It podcast?

Gerhard started Ship It as an extension of the work he was doing on Changelog, focusing on infrastructure and the process of taking applications to production. The podcast was a way to share the insights and experiences gained over years of working in this space.

What is Dagger, and why might someone want to use it?

Dagger is a tool that allows teams to replace YAML and scripts in CI/CD pipelines with code they are familiar with, such as Python, Go, or TypeScript. It helps scale automation for teams and makes it easier to share and reuse modules, reducing the need for templated YAML or Jenkins files.

What are the key features of Dagger that make it stand out?

Dagger's key features include the ability to write automation in familiar programming languages, shareable modules, OpenTelemetry integration for tracing, and a shell for interactive discovery of automation. It also ensures consistent execution across local and CI environments.

Why is documentation crucial before implementing automation?

Documentation provides a blueprint for understanding inefficiencies and ensures that automation is built on a solid foundation. It helps teams avoid mistakes and provides a reference for future changes, making it essential before any automation is implemented.

What is the future vision for Dagger?

The vision for Dagger is to become the standard for automation, similar to how containers revolutionized application packaging. It aims to make automation more consumable, shareable, and documented, reducing the need for repetitive tasks like downloading and validating packages.

What challenges does Dagger face at scale?

At scale, Dagger faces challenges such as managing distributed caching, ensuring reliable pipeline execution, and optimizing costs. Running thousands of CPUs for testing can be expensive, and the tool must balance performance with cost efficiency.

How does Dagger compare to traditional CI/CD tools like Jenkins?

Dagger allows application teams to own their CI/CD pipelines by writing automation in their preferred language, unlike traditional tools where DevOps teams often drop in Jenkins files. This shifts the responsibility to the application teams, making CI/CD more aligned with their workflows.

What is the significance of Dagger's modules and how are they used?

Dagger modules are shareable packages of automation code that can be written in various languages. They allow teams to reuse and combine functions, making it easier to build pipelines without reinventing the wheel. Modules are self-documenting and can be discovered and used by anyone.

What role does OpenTelemetry play in Dagger?

OpenTelemetry in Dagger captures detailed traces of every operation within a pipeline run, providing insights into execution times, caching efficiency, and step performance. This data is visualized in Dagger Cloud, helping teams optimize their automation workflows.

Why is the portability of Dagger important for modern development?

Dagger's portability allows teams to run the same automation locally and in CI environments, making it easier to test and debug pipelines. It also enables teams to choose where to run their pipelines, whether on-prem or in the cloud, based on cost and performance needs.

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Dave Rosenthal, CTO of Sentry, discusses the future of application health monitoring, emphasizing the integration of various telemetry data sources using a trace ID to provide a comprehensive debugging experience for developers.
  • Integration of various telemetry data sources (logs, metrics, errors) using a trace ID.
  • Enhanced debugability through a richer, interconnected data model.
  • Ability to analyze and slice and dice data based on various parameters (e.g., operating system).

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Gerhard Lazu joins the show to discuss how Ship It! started and why you might want a general purpose language for your CI/CD.

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