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201: Listen Now: Kill List

2024/10/8
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Annie Elise: 本期节目介绍了一个名为《死亡名单》的播客,讲述了一个黑客发现暗网雇凶杀人网站上的一个“死亡名单”,上面列有数百个目标人物的详细信息,包括姓名、地址、照片和谋杀指令。当一个看似自杀的谋杀案与名单上的受害者联系起来后,黑客联系了一位调查记者卡尔·米勒寻求帮助。由于当地警方行动迟缓,他们不得不自己采取行动,警告那些生命受到威胁的人。 Carl Miller: 在调查过程中,我获得了这份‘死亡名单’,它是一个包含姓名、地址、联系方式和照片的电子表格,照片看起来都来自社交媒体。名单上的人们对即将面临的危险毫不知情。名单中还包含了雇凶杀人的具体指令,例如绑架、谋杀、伪装成意外事故等,这让我感到震惊和不安。处理这份名单是一个巨大的道德挑战,既要避免造成更大的伤害,又要阻止潜在的犯罪。我最终决定报警,将信息交给警方,尽管对警方的反应并不乐观。整个过程充满了压力和不确定性,我必须在保护自己和保护潜在受害者之间取得平衡。 Carl Miller: 这份名单让我意识到网络犯罪的严重性和隐蔽性,以及普通人在网络世界中面临的潜在危险。它也让我反思了个人在面对重大道德困境时的责任和选择。我坚信,揭露真相并保护无辜的生命是至关重要的,即使这需要付出巨大的代价。

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I'm the host of the True Crime Podcast, Serialistly with Annie Elise, and I'm recommending a podcast that truly captivated me. It's called Kill List. One night, a hacker breaks into a dark web murder-for-hire site, uncovering a chilling cache of documents called the Kill List. It

It details hundreds of names around the globe, complete with faces, addresses, as well as payments and instructions for their murders. When a murder disguised as a suicide shakes a quiet suburb, a hacker connects the victim to the kill list.

With local police slow to act, he turns to an unsuspecting investigative journalist to help. His name is Carl Miller. When law enforcement decides not to investigate, our team is forced to take matters into our own hands, a decision that plunges us into a high-stakes race to warn those whose lives are in danger. And it turns out, convincing a total stranger someone wants them dead is not that easy.

I'm about to play a clip from Kill List. Follow Kill List on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, you ready? Yep. It's a Thursday afternoon, and I'm on a call with one of my producers. The road outside my house is almost totally silent. On my computer, I open Chris's document. Oh, wow, there's a lot on here. Yeah. Chris has run me through the orders, but this is the first time I've got my hands on the Kill List itself.

It's a long spreadsheet of names, locations, telephone numbers. So how many do we have? It looks like there's 85 on this list. I scroll through the list. A man from the US, a woman from Russia. Alongside each name, there are contact details, workplace addresses, details of their movements, and in most cases, there are photos.

The photos are the thing that strike me first. A few dozen people staring out at you as you open this document. In one, a middle-aged man stands surrounded by his family. His light blue eyes twinkle with a deep and joyful pride. In another, a woman tilts her head as she smiles shyly at the camera over rimless glasses. She's somewhere glitzy. She looks relaxed and happy.

The thing that's so striking about these photos is that they look like they've all been taken from social media. They look like kind of mainly Facebook profiles. So they're the ones that you decide to put on your profile picture. Yeah. They're nice photos. Yeah, and it's, I mean, it's just a photo, but they all just sort of have this, you know, they just don't know. And this is just sort of looming over their head and they have no idea, you know. Man, this is awful.

This list looks like any other Excel spreadsheet. It's innocuous, boring even, until you read the instructions listed against each name. There's one fucking guy and I only have his name and the city he lives in. How can I hire a killer to kill him?

These are the messages written by whoever paid to have these people assassinated. Their specifications for the hit.

Can you kidnap silent and erase without a trace? Kill a nurse in Taipei. I guess we don't know the backstory, but like a nurse? I want her to be killed. It should seem she is dead because of accident, not by murder. Kidnap family in Hong Kong. Can we save 15 Bitcoin for a hit with a car and ensure fatality? Mother needs to die. Someone wants to kill their mom. Kill an unidentified woman in Ottawa. Kill a woman who permitted sexual abuse. Moscow. Women, 45 years old.

Jesus, man, this is terrible. Just like, these are really possibly 85 really serious crimes just staring back at us. Yeah. I mean, this is conspiracy to commit murder. Ethically, this is the hardest...

thing to cover that I've ever tried to do. And for sure, I mean, this is a ethical bomb waiting to blow up in our faces if we don't do this correctly. Yeah, I don't know, man. It looks like a big Pandora's box that we're opening. And once you open it, it's open, man. I don't think we can put it shut. The thought of what could go wrong if I meddle with this is terrifying. But so is the thought of what could happen if I do nothing. So I start with the obvious step.

I'm quite nervous, honestly. Like, I wasn't able to sleep that well. I don't know why. It suddenly makes it a lot more real and it's just a spreadsheet at the moment and it's about to turn into a crime. I'm about to phone the police and hand over my information. Chris might have struggled with law enforcement, but I've worked with the police before in my reporting. I'm confident I can do better. After all, this is a credible threat. How hard can it be to get them to take it seriously?

All right, should I just do it then? Follow Kill List on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to Kill List and more Exhibit C true crime shows like Morbid early and ad-free right now by joining Wondery Plus. Check out Exhibit C in the Wondery app for all your true crime listening. A Kia SUV is capable of taking you far, but when you use it locally to help your community, you go even further.

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