The History of Tess & Claire (Ask Us Anything!)
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Welcome back to Write Answers Mostly, a podcast on what you didn't learn in history class, but you really wanted to. My name is Claire Donald. My name is Tess Palomo. Welcome back, Writers.

Welcome back, Rammies, new and old. It feels like we're about to go on summer break. Which we are, but very short. Yes, but more like the essence of, you know, what that feels like, the excitement, the nerves, the, you know, what's to come. My energy this morning has been out of control, so we'll see how this episode goes. Well, we recorded yesterday for all you premium members, you know, and the episode was so intense. We both just cried the whole episode.

of crying. My fiance texted me from the gym and he was like, guys, this episode's really a bummer. He's like, I got on like the treadmill. I was really excited and I was just like, oh, we're just crying. But you guys have been like, I love seeing the comments because if you're a premium member, you get put on our close friends list, which you also see our hidden post. And so people can comment on that. And also because of what I talked about on premium, I was like, fuck, I don't want this person to hear. And so I was like,

It's like Fight Club on premium. We don't talk about what happens on premium. We don't talk about it. Exactly. And I think we've scared the premium Rammys because we're like, you guys won't say anything, right? You promised. No talkie. Be a good girl. And everyone's been so sweet and supportive. Validating. If you want to know what we're talking about and if you want to get to know us better because we spill all of our personal tea...

Join Premium. It's in the show notes. And when you miss us when we're gone from the main feed break, this is a great way to get new episodes every month and just stay connected and stay on our close friends list because we're going to be traveling and stuff. So we'll be posting on there. We're going to be traveling. We're going to be going to prison. Always. Yeah. It's going to be busy. It is. Busy June. How are you, Tess? I'm great. I'm just so excited to, you know, I love an Ask Us Anything. I know. Twist my arm. Don't make me sing. Yeah, don't make us sing.

Let's talk about ourselves for an hour. God, we hate that. This is when the little sibling energy is like the strongest. Truly. And we did some like fun things for this. Ask us anything. Claire got really creative. And one of the questions she ended up doing some journalism. I did. You reached out to friends and family, you could say. To third parties. I really did. And I followed lead. And so we have some like outside sources that will help us with some of the questions. Exactly. And I do have to kind of address an elephant in the room. I think I'm going to do it. Is it? It is. It is. Yeah. Yeah.

stop looking at our feet also we're not posting feet shit for you weirdos who are commenting on our youtube yeah sorry and like we don't mean to yuck your yums but we do because like as a woman the fact that i can't just like show up wearing these like freaking cute madewell sandals that i just got i think if we were in the space of feet stuff thank you that's one thing but we're not this is

Clearly a podcast. It's a history podcast. We're not mentioning anything. So, like, please stop asking us for shoe play. I didn't even know what that was. What is shoe play? Oh, it's like when you, like, mess around with your shoes on there. And you guys know, so I don't appreciate it because you're taking what we're doing and putting it into the context of your fetish and we're not asking for it. No, we're not asking for it. And I would like to just, like, be able to wear...

Open-toed shoes. Loud and proud. Yeah, you know, there's a lot of things you can't do as women. I don't know if you've heard about it. Yeah. I'm coming in really hot. No, I'm with you. But all of the comments you guys last time, if you're watching this one, which kind of makes me feel weird.

stop it right now or like send us like a Venmo or something yeah that's actually fine we have a paypal and we can put our information in the show notes if you're gonna comment in it at least pay us $25 let's do it okay then we'll be happy god you just never know what you're gonna get on an episode of right answers mostly do you know and now I'm like we've I don't know if we're gone too far

No, no, no. I needed to address it. It's fine. I'm not feeling weird about it. No. Stop it. Stop it. But anyway, yeah, so I just had to address that. Are you feeling less manic, more manic, just as manic? Just as manic as ever. Love it. Shall we get in? Should we just like jump on in? Let's get into it. Also, guys, some of these questions, if you've listened to previous Ask Us Anything, because we do this once or twice a year, might be repetitive, but they will always be a new. Yeah, you never know what's going to pop up.

Exactly. And there's a lot of new questions that we haven't answered before. So if you're new, we're going to give you all the tea. That's right. If you're an OG, stick around because there's fun, juicy questions. Exactly. Also, we asked all of this on our Instagram at Right Answers Mostly. You can follow us there and on TikTok at Right Answers Mostly. Show. Show. Show would begin. Let's begin, Claire. You take it away. Claire. Claire.

Should we do like Ram personal advice? Yeah. Ram personal advice. I think so. Claire broke it up into categories. She's an organized queen. I was doing this last night. I smoked a joint and I was like sitting on the back porch and I had like two hits off this joint. But you know, guys, sometimes if you're a week early, you'll take two hits off a joint like a normal day and then it will surprise you. Well, you know I'm sensitive to your joint. I don't.

You're sensitive to edibles, though, I feel. Really, I mean, like, it doesn't take a lot of drugs for me to... That's a gorgeous thing, too. It is nice. But I was like, oh my God, I am so high. And I was like, just keep adding to it. But then I had to take a break. No, that's a lot to do. Yeah, it was a lot to do high, that is for sure. But anyways... Okay, so we're going to start with a Ram-centric question. A little bit more work, a little bit more of the pod. Right. Claire, who is the person you'd most love to gossip about history with on your podcast? Yes.

I'm going to go like celebrities. Yeah. Because obviously there's people in my life that I would love to gossip with. And you're my number one. Thank you. Likewise. This is why we have this podcast. But I actually thought about, okay, well, one, Chelsea Handler would be amazing. Just like her political commentary is like how we fell in love with her in the first place. So I think she'd be so funny. Someone from our episodes that we've covered that I would love, Andre Leon Talley. Okay.

I feel like he would be so knowledgeable about things and he would like bring the shade. He would comfort us in ways that we don't even know. I think he would just be so funny. Agreed. So Andre Leon Talley or Chelsea Handler are my answers. Oh, those are great, great.

Great answers. Thank you. Check out our Andre Leon Talley episode. I feel like that's like a slept on episode. It really is. It's a gorgeous episode. I should have looked at these more before we got started. I was absorbing it in my high state. No, that was smart. Because I'm like, oh, God. I would love, okay, first thing that always comes to mind. Okay, you know what I'm going to say? Who? I'm going to say Alana Glazer. Oh.

And she's been on your heart lately. She's been on my heart. And she's just such an amazing writer. And she just speaks to me in a way. Loved her from Broad City. Her new movie, Babes, is a great movie about female friendship. And it's just so sweet. And I just think she's like a girl's girl, but she's also just a raunchy little thing. She's so funny. And she's smart. She's very smart. Well, if you're funny, you're smart. Exactly. Humor is intelligence. That's what we said. You heard it here, folks. Yep.

So Alana, I would love to gossip about. And then someone that we have covered. Oh, my God. Can we get Alana Glazier on? Glazier or Glazer? It's with a shish. We're shish. Glazier. Alana is Glazier. I would love to get her on RAM. We should try. We should try. Oh, my God. We should. Maybe she's a WME girly. Or no, maybe she's... I think she might be CAA. Oh. Brittany. Brittany. Get to check for us. Call her. And then someone from history that we've done. Oh, my God. Oh.

I mean, Gloria Steinem. Oh, my God. Gloria would, like, give it to us straight. Check out our Gloria Steinem episode. All right. I swallowed a sun chip a little bit. I knew this would happen. Yeah, well, you were munching on some sun chips before you guys showed up. Yeah, Gloria Steinem just because, I mean, iconic. I would just, like...

try to shut up. Try. It would be hard. It would be a hard interview because like, how do you even talk to her? I don't know. I mean, the fact that she's like on Watch What Happens Live, like that's why Watch What Happens Live is such a great show because you can have Gloria Steinem on there. Exactly. With like James Kennedy right next to her. Exactly. And that is like us. It's us. That is us. That is Ram. Okay. So a personal. Personal. Oh my God. The

Okay, the first personal question that we have to answer, have you two ever hooked up? Bestie thing. This one, we sent a screenshot of it and we were dying. Because we've always been like, I wonder if the Rammys are like wondering if we've ever hooked up before. Yeah, you guys have been, yeah, curious if we've had any curiosity with each other.

The answer is no. No. We've kissed on the lips like tons of times. Yeah, just like a friend kiss. Never tongue. No, we've never exchanged tongue. No. No. But just like a long... We have so many pictures of us kissing. Oh, yeah. It's just like... We just were kissing at the bachelorette trip the other weekend. Yeah, exactly. In our photo booth. Yeah. It's hot. Just kidding. It's like I could never hook up with one of my friends. No. There's just never been... The friend level is different. Exactly. Yeah. So, no, we haven't, but...

But who knows what's going to happen. But never say no. No, I just like really couldn't do that. Kiss her again. You guys know John Tucker must die, that scene. We've been saying that a lot. Kiss her again. Exactly. It's our favorite scene right now. It's so funny. So sorry. No, we've never hooked up. Sorry about it. Bestie teens. Claire, to the advice section.

God, and we just like go into it. I know. So here we go. I'm getting a little hot. I know. I don't know if it was a previous question or if it's this one. Could be both. What advice would you give your high school self with all the knowledge that you have now? God, this one's always so hard for me. Because I feel like a lot of the advice I would give my high school self is advice I would give myself now. So it's really hard to like, I don't know, like take that in. Yeah.

Do you have something right away that you're like, I know? It would literally be like if you don't want to be around someone, you don't have to. I feel like high school and college for me was a lot of like, well, I don't want to make things weird by hanging out with this person that's making me feel crazy or that I don't feel safe around. And it would be like you're allowed to establish boundaries.

With everyone and everything. Like that doesn't have to become a later in life thing. Like we kind of talked about that on premium. Like we did. I'm just like even right now boundaries with friends or people that you've known for a long time. It's okay to distance yourself. Yeah. That doesn't make you a bad person. And I think in high school like I had a couple friends where I was like you are just like not doing it for me. But I just didn't know what to do. So I would just like.

continue to try to like impress them and want to keep them close so like but like I would like really not like them yeah it's just hard people pleasing it's like a hell of a drug sure is and our friend Allison tested tick-tock that was like if you're such a people pleaser name three people who are like actually pleased with you right now and you're like oh shit yeah you know like it's a losing game for everyone it is so like just start those exercises and

early on in life I think boundaries boundaries yeah I think ultimately for me for high school probably would be well a few things one of the things that comes to mind is like that Dolly Parton quote that's like find out who you are and then go be it on purpose like I just think about especially early 20s how I really tried to change my personality for the people around me and like what would they think and like how should I react to this thing and it's like it's

It's so – you're going to find the people who actually like you and those are the special people in your life. Exactly. Gosh, I can't even imagine you changing your purse. Like when I met you, I was like you're the most like confident person I'd ever met. That is –

crazy to hear you say because that's like such a false I don't know that's how I felt like it's hard for me to picture you like thinking like oh I should be different in front of someone because you're so like grounded in who you are now well that's again like takes a lot of practice and like I think in high school I would also tell myself like don't be so freaking hard on yourself like I was so hard on myself just like as a young girl with like body stuff with like schools with everything and it's like just enjoy yourself also be nicer to your mom

high school girls like oh

Like, oh, they're trying their best to. And they're just individuals, humans, women as well. You know, I know. So those things. That's a great answer. And have fun. Like, just have more fun. You're in high school. Like, the stakes are so low. You wouldn't even believe it. Truly. That stress comes for later in life. Later. Literally, like the world is at your feet. So just like enjoy it. Agreed, Claire. Agreed. Go off, queen. Go off, queen. Or king. Okay.

Or like whatever. Or whatever. Or whatever. Truly. All right. Let's go to Ram. Okay. Oh, it's my turn. Is Ram y'all's main job?

Right now it is for me. It always hasn't. It hasn't always been, but right now it is. And it is for me too. I also do have a side gig. Like I do some freelance production stuff, which I have some things coming up and like help out with some social media accounts. But it is our main focus every day and what we, what takes up the most of our time.

Yeah. It is a, like, we've said this before, but it's like a seven day a week thing. Like, I mean, weekends, we don't really talk about it, but we'll still kind of talk about it. It's like, and Claire and I also had this goal last year to be like, we need to hang out and try not to talk about it. But it's hard.

But it's our baby. But it's our baby. But we really, I think it's a healthy boundary, but it's so hard not to be like, even if we try to like not on a Sunday afternoon, it's like, did you see this TikTok comment? Like, of course we're going to talk about it. Also, it's like we are Ram and Ram is us. And so it is hard to separate it. Ram is inside of us. It is. Like a fetus. It is our fetus. And so it's like, what's one to do? What?

What's one to do? What's one to do but talk about Rams. It's true. But yeah, this is like our main gig right now which is to be at this place and hopefully it's our main gig right now. It's a little stressful because you're just like trying to grow and try and make it. I think we'll always be like that. Yeah. But to be at this place right now is such a gift where it really is

Both of our main things. Yeah. We had some years before that were just like, oh my God, how can we balance everything? And I think that was hard. And, you know, like Claire and I do it all with the help of our new assistant, Maddie. Maddie, we are obsessed with you. We love you so much. She's just been a gift. And for the past few months, she's just been helping us with everything and anything. And that has just been amazing. But...

You know, it's like, yeah, we're doing, we're the CEOs, we're the social media people, we're the financiers in some way. That's terrifying. We're doing our, you know, what's it called? Our bookkeeping? Yeah, our bookkeeping. We are, you know, creative directors, like it's everything in one. So, yeah, it's not easy, but we love it. We love it. Yeah, we're the ones editing all of that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So, yes, basically. Okay. Claire, Death Row Meal.

I've said a few different things and like where I am right now, I think it would be like the most incredible sushi. Love. With the dirty martini. Love. Yeah. I think, I think, cause I always forget about sushi. I know. I always go to like Italian food or Mexican food, but I think sushi right now. That's a great answer. What about you? I would say, and this just came to mind, uh, last night, um, a really good grilled cheese with like, cause I just love like bread and butter and cheese. Yeah.

Or like a carbon, you know, like I love like a pasta just with cheese. A carbon cheese is just like there's nothing that beats it. So just like a really good grilled cheese. What kind of cheese? What kind of bread? I'd love some grilled halloumi. Oh, halloumi on a grilled cheese sandwich. Like let's fuck shit up. Wow. Just because I've been in a halloumi kick recently. The squeaky cheese. I love halloumi so much. The squeaky cheese. But usually it would just, I like a combo grilled cheese. Like I could do some like cheddar with Swiss, with Havarti I think would be good. The Havarti you all have at your house is so good.

So good. Costco. And then sourdough bread, really buttery and like brown and oily. And then a martini. Oh, my God. So we might go to something about her tomorrow if you guys are Bravo girlies, you know. I saw that Dani or I heard that Dani got a grilled cheese. Oh, yum. Okay. So maybe we try a grilled cheese or something about her tomorrow. I've been craving one. Perfect. It sounds so good. What's better? Yeah, nothing. Nothing.

thing. And then also like carrot cake. Oh yes. For dessert. And then for me it would be a pint of ice cream. I was just about to say salted caramel. It would be salted caramel. It could also be like oh I love cookie dough. I love cookie dough. Cookies and cream I love. So good. I love every type of ice cream in the world. Let's blow this joint and go get ice cream. Yeah. Fuck it. Bye guys. And come back for part two.

I'm like, oh, God. Okay, no, this is actually good advice. Moving on to our advice section. Tess, this is going to be for you. What advice would you give any couple before getting engaged? All right, Rammies, who's tired? Who needs a break? Whether you're taking care of your kids, you know we love our Rammie moms, a senior loved one, or juggling both, God bless, we all need and deserve a break sometimes. Care.com can help give you that break by helping you find trusted caregivers in your neighborhood.

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from the couch. Do it wherever you want because this is all about you. So here's what you're going to do. You're going to start planning at Zola.com. That's Z-O-L-A.com. You can thank me later. Before getting engaged. Because she's engaged. I'm engaged. Live together. Oh, that's such good advice. Like, yeah, you just got to do it because like,

We were long distance for a year and now we've lived together for two years almost. And like such different relationships. And you have to live with someone for, I personally think, like well over a year. Yeah. To like let everything settle. Because like there's the phases and there's like the honeymoon phase, the excitement phase, the stressful phase. Like let it all settle. Really like...

Yeah, just like get to know each other doing nothing, get to know each other doing everything. Get to know each other hungover. Hungover. Sick. Sick. When Kunal first moved here, we were living in my old apartment.

He just lived there for like two months and it was a heat wave in July. And this apartment got so hot because it had this huge window in the front, which was perfect for natural light. But man, did that heat get trapped in? I mean, we used to record in that apartment afterwards. People are like, so you haven't hooked up. We'd get naked to cool off and we would just be my back would be like wet. Yeah. Like taking a shower, essentially. And so we moved in there for a little bit.

And bless his heart. And it was a small apartment and one tiny little bathroom and no dishwasher. And so getting to know each other in that space was like very telling. And then I got COVID for the first time.

For two weeks, I was down bad. Was that during Allison's birthday? Yes. You were in that apartment during Allison's birthday? Yes. It was right after McKinley's Bachelorette. Oh, right. But you stayed in the other guest room. I stayed. Yeah, we separated. Yeah. Just because I had it. Like, I was so sick. She was down bad crying at the gym. Crying at the gym. But literally didn't go to the gym for like six months after because I was just like, I, it was bad. And the way that Kunal took care of me.

In this really less than ideal comfortable environment. And then we had to house hunt like immediately after during that.

And we've been through a lot of things together. And so I just think it's like paying attention to how someone treats you when things aren't like the glitz and glam. But that's your Bitcoin boo. He steps up to the plate on things like that. He steps up to the plate. He really does. He is like so sweet. He is so sweet for like all the people in his life and your life. I know. He'll do that. He is just the best. Yeah. So yeah, just like get to know each other through it all. Also like, yeah, the boring times.

Yeah, the times where it's like we don't have anything to do for the weekend. Yeah. How does that feel? Yeah. How does it feel when we're just by ourselves? How does it feel when we're with each other's families? Yes. Like all of that. You can't escape each other. Exactly. So that's your big advice for – That's my big advice. Love that. Yeah. And I think just like try not to also compare to other couples. That's – yeah. Like –

Comparison is the thief of joy. You know? And, like, I think also we never really know what's going on with other people. You never do. And I think, like, it's easy to be like, well, should we be doing like this? And I don't think I've really had that with Kunal. But I've had that in past relationships before where it's like, why aren't we in this place yet? Or, like, you know, all of that stuff. So. That's great advice. Listen to your gut, ladies. Listen to your gut. And then maybe you can get a rock like Tessa's. Exactly. Yeah.

It's gorgeous. I just have to point it out every few seconds. We love it. Okay, Claire.

What's the story of Ram? And we've said this before on kind of like past episodes, but like we'll give you like a little brief rundown. Yeah. So Tess and I met, we met about seven years ago. Crazy. But we've known each other, we've been in multiple lives together, you know. A thousand. We've been in a thousand lives together. And we just like clicked instantly. Tess had a web series that was on Elizabeth Banks platform, ever heard of it? Oh, stop.

And I was like just making short films and like trying to do anything because no one was casting me in anything. So I was like, God, if I can do anything to be in something. You were just in a feature film. That's true. I was. That's true. But we had a mutual friend and he literally was like, I'm afraid if I introduce you guys, you're going to like I'm never going to hear from you again, which is eventually exactly what happened.

Truly.

And we did short films together, which is also on premium. Our short film, Marital Bliss, that Tess wrote. And I was and we were both in. So fun. It's on premium. We spent a pretty penny on that. Yeah, we did. We spent so much money. We did. And like the way that we made that happen. And I just want to like.

do another short film with you. Same. So bad. There's nothing more fun. No, eventually a goal of Ram, I think, is for us to have like a show or do a movie together. Yes. That it would, it's scripted. Like also doing non-scripted like The Simple Life would be so fun. But also scripted. Well, that's like where we both come from. Yes. We, you know, both actresses, writers, producers, all of that. So like that is like our

a big part of our heart. Exactly. And then, so then COVID happened and we were like sitting around smoking and Tess is obsessed with Titanic. As you guys know, it's our OG episode and she was talking about it and we were just going back and forth and then we were like,

should we just like make a podcast about this? And we were like, yes, we should. Yes. And then at first we were like, maybe it'll be Titanic with Tess. And then we're like, I guess we can't do, actually, I remember we were like Titanic with Tess and I remember texting you and being like, Hey, I don't want to step on your idea, but I would love to do this with you. Yes. Do you remember that? I completely remember. I was in bed. I was high and I was like, Oh my

I was like, oh my God, I don't want her to think that I'm like, I'm just going to do this podcast. No, but I was like, I would love to join you with this and we could do a commentary. Well, I'd never do anything without you. I mean, same. So then we got together, smoked again, and wrote down subjects that we thought were really interesting that we'd love to talk about. And that was Ram. Yes. And then the first time that my fiance, Kunal, visited, we were sitting around the pool. Sitting around the pool of the hotel that he was staying at because we were still not in a relationship. So he was like, I'll get a hotel. And I was like, yeah. Yes, I totally remember.

And then we were like, what should we name our podcast? And what were the original names? Do you remember? Guys. Guys. We're spilling the tea. Like, I'm so glad. It's so cringe. Oh, my God. It's so cringe.

Mr. T Purely, fucking call us We are begging for you They're not sponsoring us yet guys You will and we're going to look back on this video and be like that was cute right? When we begged and you guys didn't listen We ain't too proud to beg Exactly, so we had a list of like five different things Yeah I can't remember the other names I can't remember either

And then Kunal did really help us come up with right answers mostly. Yeah, because we were like, we're not historians. We're not even close. Like, we're not, we don't want to, we're not going to get everything right. It needs to be, like, very laid back.

And like, what a, sorry to toot our own horn, but can I for a second? Like, what a great name. Guys, the name is good. You have to admit, because it also allows us the space when people come for us. Yes. All you have to say is a response. And I hope that you guys do this in your real life too. If someone's just like, well, just be like, right answers mostly. Right answers mostly. Like, whatever. And isn't that the best you can do? We love that. Yeah. And then it became Ram. And then we have the Rammies now. And it's been a journey. And it's been the greatest journey of my life. It was us. It was us.

It's been us. It's always been us. It's the best, you guys. We have so much fun. So much fun. How tall are both of you? Oh, yeah. Someone who wrote the same was like, I'm also a tall girly. I think you guys have talked about that. Yep. Oh, I'm 5'8". That was Tess. No, you're 5'9". Am I? I think that you...

I think that you've always said you're 5'9". I think I've shrunk a little. It's all coming for us. No, I think you're 5'9". Yeah, whenever I go in, it's like 5'8 and a half. So I'll just say 5'9". And then this is Claire speaking, which maybe you guys know our voices or don't know our voices yet. The OGs definitely do. Yeah, they do. But I am 5'8", but I've also been told I've been 5'9". You're also 5'9 energy. Thank you so much. I wouldn't even think of you as 5'8". I'm like, ah! I am.

Not 5'8". Not 5'8". I love being tall. Same. Love it. I was about to say my shoe size. I'm not even going to bring it there. No, don't. It's not a safe place. Don't do it. I'm not going to bring it.

bring it there. So clear. But I, we are both tall girlies. We actually, most of our friends in LA are very, it's a tall group. Yes. We, I have, yeah, I have only a couple shorter friends, like maybe two or three in my life. Everyone else is tall. And I'm looking at you. Oh yeah. My like childhood best friend has always, like she's,

comes up to my elbow. Yes. She is. She's short. She's little. She's little and cute. We have our friend like Hannah G come around. She's so little. It is just like it's kind of shocking because we are a tall group of women. Yes. My friend McKinley like in high school she'd always just put her head on my bosom and I'd like hold her and that was like always the thing that we did for pictures. Comforting. But everyone else is like at least like

We're talking five, seven and above. Yeah. Five, seven is probably the median. I think so. So yeah, we're tall girlies. Love it. Okay. My boyfriend and I broke up Sunday. I'm so sorry, by the way, we're back to the advice. Claire, how do you feel now? A couple months post breakup? Great question. And we are thinking of you. We are thinking of you. First of all, sending all of my love. And I know Tess is too. It like, if you're feeling down right now, it's,

you're going to feel so much better in a couple of months. And this was one of the things we were crying about yesterday on premium. We kind of get into it because dating is a whole other thing, but I have not looked back once. This has been like the best decision for me ever.

I think give yourself time. That's the worst. It's the best and worst advice ever. But like time really does heal everything. Yep. It does. So like you have to let time do what it does and pass.

surround yourself with your friends. For me, I feel so incredibly lucky to have a strong group of girlfriends. Journal if you haven't started journaling. I cannot recommend journaling enough to people because it's a space where you get to be completely honest and say whatever you're thinking and you'll discover things about yourself that you didn't even realize were there. And also,

Have fucking fun with it. Yeah. Oh, start watching shows like Sex and the City. Yes. Things that inspire single, fun, sexy life. Yes. Exactly. It doesn't even mean that you have to go sleep with people, but just get in the zone of like, I'm a hot, independent woman. Yes. And also take this time to just be with yourself, learn about yourself more, and then go out. Again, go out and be that on purpose. Feel all the feelings. Don't try to rush it.

And how I am a few months out, like, great. Yeah. I'm great. That's great advice, Claire. Thanks. That is great advice. Thank you. Tess, you also are, like, great with relationship stuff. Anything to add? I think all of that is perfect. The only other thing I'd add is do not stalk on social media. Oh, such a good point. The way that that, like, extended my heartache post-breakups for so many things, it probably made things, like, six months behind because I could not get off of, like –

Looking at stories, even though I'd say I wouldn't. Looking at the tagged girls that would be in things and going down that rabbit hole. So, like, you think that it's going to make you feel good. And it's not a natural way that we live our life. Like, 50 years ago, no one is, you know, looking at their ex. No. You know, and being – having all of that, like, access. So, no social media. Don't do social media. Like, if you're not – And you're good with that, too. Well, it's –

Circumstances are just so different. Like this breakup was different than the breakup that I had at 19 where I was completely heartbroken. And like if you're in that space right now, like I wish I could just give you a hug because it is like –

Time moves so slow at that point. And you just feel like you're never going to get out of it. But again, like doing things for distraction. If you don't feel like blocking them on social media, at least hide them. Yes. Like you need to do things not to see them. Yes. And have the other thing I would say is have something to look forward to every week. Yes. Doesn't have to be a big thing. Doesn't have to be expending a lot of money. But even if it's like the girls are going to come over, we're going to have wine, plan an activity, be like, it'd be fun to do.

paint together. It'd be fun to watch this movie. Like always have something. And if you can plan a little trip, that's always really helped me. Even like I used to do staycations to Palm Springs. Yeah. Two hours away. I would just be like, I just got to get out of my space. We went to San Diego like the next weekend after my breakup. Oh my God. That's right. And it was great. That's right. Yeah. Also just like try to see this, be like that unbearable main character energy for yourself and see this as like, this is a new adventure beginning and everything

is working for me. This might sound really woo-woo, but I'm going to go here. Like the universe wants you to be happy and to find what you're looking for and just know that and go forward with that mindset. Yep. Someone that is, doesn't have to be like your next person or your soulmate, but someone, the next person you date, you are going to look back at your old relationship and be like, oh wow, I'm so much better now that I am in this new relationship. Yeah.

I just, like, love you, Rammies. Like, the support that we get after, like, premium episodes because we have a premium episode talking about this. And I feel like we're just, like, all on this road together. I know. We love you guys so much. We love you so much. You guys really comfort us and, like, support us in ways that we can't even express. Love you guys. And on to Ram. And on to Ram. Do people think that we're sisters? Yes. Yes.

It's like the greatest compliment of all time. It really is. And Claire and I have had like hair journeys. And when we both like, cause we've been both pretty blonde at the same time and pretty like have Claire didn't highlight her hair for a little bit. And we were getting like, literally our moms were like, which one is which one time? My mom, uh, that short film saw like a screen, uh, a still of the short film. And,

one of my ex-boyfriends was in the short with us and Tess is, it's a scene of them in bed together. And my mom was like, was that awkward for you thinking that it was me? And I was like, that's not me. It's not me, mom.

So even our mom sometimes can't tell us apart. And that's also when I had like a bob, if you will. I know. I know. Yeah. When Claire and I met each other, I was like pretty blonde, blonde hair. And it was like above my shoulders. I was also pretty blonde. But my hair has been like the same pretty much length since we met each other. I've never known you with short hair. You know I like the little rocker moment that you did. Oh, my God. I know that you're triggered by it. No, guys. I actually had like a mullet at one point. It was like not okay because I went to this one salon called Salon Benjamin, which is like the very inside.

That's what's funny. It's like an upscale, like, edgy salon. And the girl got her scissors out and she was like, can I just? And I was like, go for it. And, oh, honey, those early 20s, like, what a time. You know, you're taking risks. You are taking risks. And, like, to me, I'm always like, take a hair risk because, like,

It's so fixable. It is so fixable. It's fun. I mean, like, I've been all over the place. Same. All over the place. But yeah, people definitely think we're sisters. We're not even related. But God. It is an honor. You are my soul sister. Soul sister. It is an honor and a privilege when people say it. And that way we are sisters. Exactly. Okay. Okay. Here we go. Oh, I'm scared. The big event. Okay. I'm like sweating. The question is, what were y'all like in high school? And I was like...

It's so hard to describe yourself at any phase in life. Same. When I saw this question, I was like, how do you say? What do you say? So I have the idea. And I was like, I'm going to text two of Tess's best high school friends. And one of them is like, well, I love both of them, obviously. Molly, I love you too. But Alice is, you guys know we talk about our friend Alice all the time. So I've texted Alice and I've texted Molly and asked them, what was Tess like in high school? I'm terrified. And should I just read it? Yeah, yeah, just read it. Okay.

So this is from Alice. She said, well, first she went, oh, my God, this is going to make me emotional. And then she went, I mean, mostly exactly. This is about Tess in high school. I mean, mostly exactly the same and like her sense of humor and being so sharp and witty and extremely loving and caring about her friends. She said we had so many inside jokes and used to write like notes to each other and stuff like that in class. And then she said, I started drinking and smoking first. And I remember being worried that she might be a little judgy. And I'll be honest. I think she was at first. Yeah.

And then she goes, but then once you got going, we had a lot of fun at theater parties, just making out with everyone and taking our shirts off. It's true. It did take me, I didn't drink or smoke weed until end of junior year. And I was a little bit behind other people. And I did feel like I didn't like not being included, but I also didn't want to start yet. So it did come off as judgment. It's scary when you're in high school. Totally. And I think my other girlfriends too, and like a different group than theater also thought that. But then once I started, I was like, Oh, this is great.

This is fun. When she started, she couldn't stop. Exactly. She then goes on to say, but yeah, very much the same person. Always someone who you could giggle with. Sorry, you could giggle with, but also just talk for hours. We used to be on Facebook messengers for hours after school, even though we'd just seen each other. She got best personality as superlative for a reason. And then she sent the picture, best personality, where Tess has the skinny scarf. Iconic skinny scarf. I love that scarf. Oh, so iconic. Oh, Allison.

So that was Alice's. Now let me find Molly. Molly, we love you. I love you so much. Like, okay, where is, I have like a message from solid core. I'm like, I don't need you guys right now. They're like, come back to us. Where is Molly? What's Molly? Oh, I was about to say, what's Molly's phone number? Okay. Here's what Molly said. Okay. She said, oh my gosh, I love this. In short, she was the coolest, most popular theater nerd. Oh,

She said, I feel like she had a lot of friends in a lot of different groups, so definitely very social and well-liked. But also, we did not drink or get invited to parties and would dress up like Little House on the Prairie for fun, which is so iconic. She said, also, she didn't have the right contact. This is so funny.

She didn't have the right contacts or glasses prescription for most of high school. So she was show blind. So if someone was waving in her direction or walking towards her, she would just assume she knew them and wave and say hi. And then often realize the person was not talking to her. I am not okay. I completely forgot about this. She goes, LOL could go on, could really go on forever. If you want any more detail, I feel like Leonardo, the Leonardo DiCaprio obsession also needs to be mentioned. It was extreme. Yeah.

Oh, my God. I love you, Molly. I love you, Alice. I think on our – if they don't mind, on our carousel, if we can post this picture of you, Molly, and Alice. It's amazing. It's iconic. I love those answers so much because I just really feel like with my girlfriends in high school, like, I didn't date in high school. I was, like, boy crazy, but I wasn't, like – didn't have a boyfriend, like, senior year. Yeah, now I kind of want to hear, like, from your experience. Yeah, I mean, like, I feel like I'm very similar. Like –

Kind of haven't changed at all, probably. But...

very just like friend centric and theater centric. And like Molly always was like, Oh, what did we call you? Molly theater adjacent, a theater Jason. So she would like come to parts and be like, God, you crazy kids. Cause I had my theater friends, which Alice was in. But then I also had my like other core group of girlfriends, which was Donna, Molly and McKinley. And they got both groups. Yes. Both groups. And they did cheer and I did theater. Um, but we just were like, not afraid to be like nerds too. You know, that is like,

what I hope that this generation, even past Gen Z, but also Gen Z, like I hope y'all are dressing up like Little House on the Prairie on the weekends and like making up weird dances and making weird videos. Molly and I made up a dance to Miley Cyrus' The 7 Things I Hate About You. We did that too. Claire, if you're listening, and Lindsay, I don't know when to say y'all's last names for privacy, but we did the same thing. We did that when we were end of junior year going into senior year. Like

I think we really kept... We didn't care what people thought about us in that way. We had fun, didn't drink till later, didn't start making out with boys until later. And I just love that so much. High school was just all about the girls. It was so fun. Also, Alice sent me another yearbook picture.

picture and it had like some people on it and I was like I already know who like half these people were and then Alice said that I was like honorary Pali student and I'm so honored you wore the Pali pride shirt for quite quite some time I love that freaking green shirt I love it so much it's everyone's favorite shirt yeah um but yeah I think that

I think that sums me up well. I was also just like – I was a fine student, but I wasn't like a perfectionist at all. That's like how I am now. Kind of I'm like, yeah, it's fine. So like – It's good enough. Probably had like a 3.5 GPA. Like nothing like crazy. So you did theater. Did you do any other –

extracurricular I did theater and then I was vice president and then president of the best buddies club so that was like best bodies I was like go off girl no I don't think I exercised until like end of college like truly I don't think I ever I think that's a normal thing I thought about this the other day because a lot of kids do like sports I was like how did I like get movement in you did emotional movement with theater I didn't really go on walks or anything

I was like, what was I doing? So yeah, Best Buddies, which would connect students with other students that had Down syndrome. And we would go off and do different activities and events throughout. You were president of that? Madam President. Yes. So those were my two main things. And then out of school, I did piano. Oh. You were moving your fingers. Oh, that's true. I was burning 10 calories a day.

But I will say, like, if you guys don't know, we say this, we've said this on episodes, like, Tess is a connector and, like, it still remains and you hear it from her high school stories. Like, she's someone that you just gravitate towards and just, like, you immediately feel like you're her best friend. Oh, well, that is very sweet. You guys probably feel that through the episodes, too. That is very sweet. I really loved high school. Oh, that's good. So...

So on to Claire. Oh, God. I'm scared. So I asked Claire, or I asked Claire's two best friends from high school, Emma and Morgan. My childhood friends. Childhood friends. And yeah. Babies. Yes. They go way, way back. I love both of them. Oh, God. And we're going to start with Morgan. Okay. Okay.

Hi, I love this. Claire was definitely a cool girl in high school. Oh, stop. I fucking knew it. She set style trends while the rest of us were struggling with awkward phases. She was always a beauty queen. She was on homecoming court twice at two different high schools. She transferred schools after sophomore year. Everyone knew Claire, but we were lucky enough to be her besties. And she also was such a good student. Beauty and brains. We're concerned.

Isn't that so sweet? I'm going to die, Morgan. Isn't that so sweet? And guys, we all know. Everyone listening is like, we're not surprised that Claire is popular and cool. That makes me want to die right now. I can't. Emma said... Oh, God. I'm going to take out one thing that's a little bit more personal, but I'll share it with you after. Okay. Because it's very sweet. Oh, Emma. Um...

They're fine that I'm reading these, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I guess I didn't ask them. No. I think it's fine. Emma says, fully agree with everything Morgan said. Claire was a cool girl and we were riding on her coattails. Oh, stop. But she chose us. Manicure emoji. Yeah, she was voted on homecoming court literally like two weeks after transferring to our school and she was dating a popular football player. So I feel like they were the it couple.

She was a cool girl, but also a good girl. I was a good girl. She wasn't crazy like a lot of high schoolers. She was a nice church-going Southern Christian.

I was. This kills me about Claire. Like, she was, like, the popular girl that was, like, but in the South, though, like, if you guys know, like, it was the cool thing to go to church. I was very religious. Yes. Which is crazy. Hilarious. And this made me laugh. She said, also, she worked at McAllister's for, like, one day, a sandwich chain, before switching to work at a clothing store, which was way more her speed. But I'll never forget. She did the program where you could work your senior year instead of having to take a full day of classes, always hustling even then. I know.

That's right. I was like, I'm leaving school early. I got to go to work. So those are very sweet. I did. If you guys know McAllister's, I worked there for like literally a week. And on my first day of the job, I picked up a plate that had a sandwich on it. And I turned around and the sandwich flew off the plate. And I was like, maybe this job isn't. You're like, I go into fashion. It didn't for me. Yeah. So then I went to work at this clothing boutique called Mason's. And they have like citizens and seven jeans. Did you get a discount? I did get a discount. How much?

30%. Yeah, it was like something like really not bad for seven jeans back in the day. I know, but I was saving up to move to LA. So it's like we weren't buying much clothes. She always had Hollywood on her mind.

We also sold Toms. Remember the shoes Toms? Claire, do I remember? Oh my God. It was whenever you knew the people that were coming in to buy Toms and it was miserable because you had to get 17 different sizes because people were like, these don't fit. And we're like, it's supposed to fit like a sock. I had red Toms in college that I wore all the time. Red Toms. I had herringbone Toms. What is that? That's what it's called, right? The black and white pattern. Oh, yes, yes. This makes sense for both of us, I feel. Totally.

Totally. It totally does. What would you... Would you agree with them? What would you say that you like? How did you identify in high school? I think they're giving me way too much credit. No. I think that they are. I did...

Yeah. I was also, I told Tess, I was like, I was very sad in high school. Like high school was hard. Like I said, I was like, be like gentle on yourself. But I did have fun in high school. Like, especially I did cheer for a little bit. And then when I transferred, I didn't do cheer and being in the student section was so fun. But it was very like Friday night lights, like dating the football player, like all that stuff. She wears short shirts, I wear jeans.

I'm not even saying that we were excited. I'm overwhelmed. It was, yeah, it was fun. And I had to work very hard at school. Like, I wanted to be a really good student because my sister was very smart. And so, like, I, but I also, like, cheated for sure. Like, I had a friend that was very, very smart. And we were in all the classes together. And I would, like, bully her into letting me cheat. Sorry about it. But, yeah, it was, I had to work very hard at it. And, yeah. Yeah, I could have worked harder.

I admit it. But I also think I just was like, high school is for socializing and theater. And that's all I can think about. And that's gorgeous. And like, really looking back? Yeah. I think I was like, I wasn't that hard on myself in high school. That's a good thing to have. Yeah. In some ways. I was in student council and then I like, but I wanted. What were you? I, I.

I think I was like secretary or something. But I wanted to be president so bad. Did you campaign? We didn't like campaign for the school. I think it was just like within student council. Class council, I think people did. Oh, yeah, yeah. Because they were like different, which is weird. And then this other girl got it. And I have a diary entry about it, which we're going to read some diary entries on premium next month. And I'm literally like, Blank thinks it's a... Someone needs to tell her it's not a dictatorship. Like I was...

Would you swear in your journal? I did not swear until like, I did not swear. I did not swear. Clutching my pearls, literally. No, I was like such a goody goody. Actually, that is like worth mentioning. I didn't get drunk till senior year prom.

Yeah, so we were like a year behind each other. Yeah. I also swore like a sailor, even though I was very good with like everything else. But I'm making up for lost time. I also think it's like a thing of like growing up in California versus growing up in like the South. That's true. Like my parents swore. Yeah. So I was swearing in like middle. I mean, I wasn't like, it wasn't courage, but. Yeah, I couldn't say crap.

Yeah. Cindy does not like crap. It's okay. But she's grown to love. You've grown to love us, Cassie. Yeah, you like it, right? You think she's disappointed in me? No. I'm sorry. She could never be disappointed.

Sorry. Oh, what a fun question. I could just go on and on about high school. Oh, great idea, Claire. Thank you. Like, where the hell are we even? Advice. Oh, it's like, so do you want to do like, do you want, this is yours. Okay. Yes. So advice going through a friendship breakup. I'll keep it short and sweet because we're talking, we talk about this a lot on premium and we also talked about this in our last ask us anything because it was fresh as hell last time. Fresh as hell. It was like a month out of a huge friendship breakup I had.

I would say take the self-judgment and shame out of it. I think with friendship breakups, it's really easy opposed to romantic breakups to be like, well, like, you know, they did this and I did this and like, fuck them. Like, I think with friendship breakups, it feels a little bit more delicate. You feel almost guilty for having any other feelings to your friends that aren't like warm and fuzzy. Yeah.

And that can then equate to self-judgment. And I think just take that out of it because, like, I know you did the right thing to have boundaries. And I don't know if, like, if you were the person that decided to do it, if it was mutual. I think I'm talking more like if you are the one to decide to take that break or to break up or to, you know, just go in different directions. Just, like, know that you're doing an act of self-love. Stay strong about it.

I'd say also, like, kind of treat it like a breakup of cutting off ties on social media, not texting, you know, like. People just don't talk about friendship breakups enough. Like, it's really not. And it's, like, feels almost like this other level of betrayal on either side. If you're the one getting broken up with or you're the one doing the breakup, it feels like betrayal because it's, like, these are the people that are supposed to be here with you through all the other breakups. Exactly. Through everything. Exactly. It's really, it's not easy. I think you just have to, like.

I don't know. Like, I think I had a really hard time like that first month after of like kindness to myself. Like, I just was like, oh my God. I think you're still having a hard time with that. I think I do. I think I'm like in a little bit of a better place. I think now there's more just like the pains of like nostalgia and like life moments of not being able to share it with a girlfriend that you have always thought would be in your life and stuff like that. But I think at first I was really like...

You start to get in your head about it. Like I was just watching the Jill and Bethany friendship breakup season. And then when Jill's like, wait, now when I talk to her, I'm like, fuck, did I do this? Should I have done this? It's a lot of self-doubt. I felt that similar way. And I think you just have to stay strong and be like, you know what? Like some girlfriends even that you did love and cherish are not healthy people to be around. We were not adding to each other's life.

Focus on the friends that give you – lift you up, give you more energy. You don't feel drained when you leave them. You trust them. There is safety in that. And just like a romantic relationship, friendship seems to have all of those core values too. How you feel when you leave someone – I remember like my therapist telling me that one time. It's like so –

It tells so much how you feel when you're leaving someone. Are they going to be, you know, like you just don't want to feel like that with any friends. No. Like this world is so hard. It is so hard. You just need people that you're like,

There is trust. We are good. Especially as you get older, like your friends become your family in a lot of ways. So exactly. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, that's, I said short answer. And then of course I ramble about it, but I also ramble about it. This is like so helpful. Yeah. I think treat it to like what Claire's advice was with a romantic breakup. Like when I went through that and I've been through like multiple friendship breakup, some it's just fizzled out, but some it's been like, we need to not talk. And those are so painful. Treat it like,

Get your girlfriends together that you still love and care about. Do fun things. Have things to look forward to. Don't look on social media. Don't. Journal about it and, you know, know that, like, time does heal. It can take a little longer, I think, sometimes with a friendship breakup. So also, like, don't rush the process. Sure.

Because it's not the same thing as like, oh, someone's now going to replace with an ex. It's like a romantic breakup. You can get distracted and even hookups and stuff. Exactly. And it's not like that with friends. Friendship, there feels like for a while that there is just a piece missing that won't be able to be replaced. But that feeling does...

It does go away with time. So we got you. We got you if you ever want to talk about it. Yeah. Just DM us because, yeah, I could talk about that for a long time. I really could. Tess is great with advice. Thank you. For real. But, yeah, we're thinking of you. We are.

Okay, Ram. If Ram had a signature cocktail created, what would it be? I mean, to me, it's just like a dirty martini. It's of course a dirty martini. Gin. Hendrix for me. Hendrix for me too. Hendrix dirty gin martini. Extra olives. Extra olives. Like that is the Ram cocktail. Ice cold, even a little bit of ice chips floating on the top. I love ice chips. If you're going to make it at home, please keep your gin and your glasses and your shaker in the freezer. Yeah.

Please. Please. And just a tiny bit vermouth. You guys know that like you just wash. The vermouth is just a wash. A vermouth rinse. Like we're not adding it to the mixer. It's a rinse and then you dump it out and then it's a. It's straight liquor. Exactly. We don't need anything else. No, it's just gin and olive juice. We might be getting a martini after this. We are. I mean, we're going to be an early martini. Yeah, it is. Whoopsie.

That's us. You can't drink all day if you don't start early. Exactly. Thursday. We love a Thursday. Love a Thursday. Okay, Claire. Mm-hmm. What's our best night out story?

God, I love this question. And we do have like a lot of good ones. Yeah, we do. We were talking about one on the way over here where we are both working on this music video for this artist, Leon, who is like so underrated. She's incredible. Incredible and so nice and so beautiful. And it was downtown and we got done working at like 10. Yep. We'll post the video because it's a great music video. Yeah, yeah. Claire was like a producer on it. I was like her assistant. And she was like, you can have producer credit. And I was like, thank you. Yeah.

That's the way that we live our life. Always just like riding on each other's coattails. And then we went back to Venice, which if you guys don't know, that's like very far. And then we went back downtown to this like warehouse party. And we were just like being young, wild and free. It started, the party I think started at 1230. And then we stayed for a few hours and it was just tons of people in LA dancing. So fun.

fun and we were having a good time also the night the night that we've titled best night of our lives or whatever when we were just bopping around Venice to different house parties and we went to the beach yes it was very like what you picture your 20s being like in LA with like a bunch of friends yes and yeah and then there's that woman on the intention walk at like two in the morning on the beach that came up to us and she's like I'm on an intention walk and I was called to talk to you about it

We're like, okay. Our night out, first night out in New York was really fun for Watch What Happens Live. There's a vlog about it on Premium. Oh my, I could watch that vlog over and over. We got shwasted. We did. And then we had to go on national TV the next day. It makes me have a pit in my stomach. How much I miss it. I miss it so much. Watch What Happens Live. Please call us and have us back because I need to redeem myself. That was literally one of the best...

like weekends of my life it was same like top three what a gorgeous way to kick off we spent so much money guys we did not take the subway how much money we spent you'd be shook to your core we'll talk about on premium yeah it was not okay but it was so fun it was so fun i'm trying to think of another one um our first trip to austin i think we had fun night outs i was like chasing this man that we tried to like find online remember evan it was fine the find evan campaign i

I totally forgot we were drinking those Spice Capri Suns. Yes, and we went out in Austin and went bar hopping. Find Evan. I forgot about that. I made out with this guy and then this girl came up to me at a bar and was like, get off of him. And I was like, what? And she was like, he's my wedding date. And he looked at me and was like, sorry. And I was like, you are a pig. I had no idea. But then I was like, but he is so hot. So hot. So we tried to find him on social media when we got back to LA. I was like, is that okay? I was like, kind of taking it to another level.

Listen, when we're dating, we're dating. We're dating, honey. We're dating. What other fun nights have we had? That one night on, again, it's like the nights where you don't expect it and you just party hop. Like that Christmas night where we went to the mustache party. Yes. That was very fun. Love in LA, like December, because there's a lot of house parties going on and there's a lot of work parties that you can just go to. Yes, and go crash and just crash an open bar. Yeah. That was very fun. Well, Camp Claire. Yeah.

Was one of the best parties that Claire has ever thrown. And it was for her 25th. My 25th birthday party was I loved. I went to the summer camp growing up called Camp Onamaka. It's my favorite place in the entire world. And so we did a summer camp theme for this birthday. I like separated everyone who was coming in cabins and like.

Then we just, we partied. The detail that you put into that, I was like, you'd be like a wedding planner. No, summer camp is just like, that is where I thrive. We had shirts made. Yes. So like we were like the camp counselors. It was so fun. One of my favorite nights out too was this past Christmas. We went to this old, it's this old school Italian restaurant called Dolce Vita that Frank Sinatra originally opened. It closed, they reopened it.

It was like very hard to get a reservation. We started drinking martinis very early. And then we just, we went and rode a bull. Actually, I didn't ride the bull, but I think just Allison. Oh yeah. Cause we were wearing, oh no, you were in jeans. But I was wearing a top that like. Oh yeah. And I had a tiny dress on. Yeah. One little slip would be. A nip. You got to pay for that. Exactly. Just like the feet pics. Yeah.

So that one, that night was also, that was so fun. And this wasn't a night out, but just like a little night out story. I'll never forget being at Winston and, um, Dennis Quaid came barreling up the stairs and Tess was standing at the top of the stairs at this place. And Dennis Quaid and his leathery skin and his leather jacket just came like crawling up the stairs, like a monster, like a monster. Like the little people in, um, what's that movie where you, if you hear, um,

Oh, A Quiet Place. A Quiet Place. He looks like one of those creatures. That was literally Tess. Or that was literally Dennis Quaid. And then Tess is just standing at the top of the stairs, like, frozen. And then Claire and I just both look at each other and we're just like... Is that Dennis Quaid? That was Nick Parker. LA is a crazy fucking place. I love those kinds of stories. But we've had good. We've had so many nights, haven't we? We have. Haven't we? Well, now it's just...

We did Dream Guest. No, I guess we didn't do Dream Guest, but kind of. Yeah, we did that one. Yeah. We skipped that one. Yeah.

Oh, any episodes you've started your research on but then had to bail? You had one recently. Yeah, Jack the Ripper. Because we were going to do that with Jake Shane. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. It just like was super intense, right? It was very graphic and very like triggering and yucky. I still would be like curious to do that subject because I don't know anything about it. So I'd be curious to hear about it. Yeah. But with a guest, it's just like. It's just the stuff that he did to women, like to women and then even after they died. Like, I don't really like.

hearing about that kind of stuff. Yeah, it's tough. It was really tough. Yeah. So yeah, we won't do that. I stopped and there's been a few that I've just been like, I can't. Oh, the Challenger. I just wasn't really feeling, I was feeling real, it was so sad. Everything about it was sad.

Yeah. What about you? I don't know if there's been any that – there's been some that I've wanted to bail on, like UFOs. I hated researching UFOs. I know, but I love that episode. It's so fun. That's a deep cut episode of Ram, I feel. It is. But I don't think that there's any others. Can you think of any that I've started on and then I haven't? No, you always carry through. You're good at just being like, I'm going to do it even if it makes me uncomfortable. I think I'm like – No. I freak out. It's like, what's the point? What are we doing here? I freak out. I freak the hell out. Yeah.

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What percentage based on the procedure that you're doing? Yes. And we test. We've both gotten facials there. I just got my Botox and my lip flip there. They are there. It's an office full of women that we love aesthetic MDR. It's just so chic and clean and just like so comforting. So we love them that we sent you. Tata Harper is what I've been using for serums and moisturizers. Same. It's the only thing that you need. And cleanser. And it just like you feel so rich when you're using them. It smells so good. It's clean.

It's clean. It's clean. It's so good. I've been really curious to try Drunk Elephant. Same. Very excited. I used to have the Drunk Elephant face skincare in like 2018. I got it gifted to me. I want to try it. And it was really nice. My big thing for skincare is like,

And I actually haven't done this as well as I'd like to because of dating, if you get what I'm saying. But always take your makeup off at the end of the night. Oh, yes. Always take your makeup off at the end of the night and wash your face. Even if you're like, I am wasted on the side of the road. Take your makeup off because, like, it's just... It's just sitting there. You're going to get a breakout. Yeah, exactly. You're going to get a breakout. Exactly. Um...

Also, like, spray tans always help. We love a spray tan. We do. And we really love Ilia. Ilia has been kind to us and sent us a bunch of stuff. That's true. I've only used the Ilia, like, liquid concealer for the past, like, four years. Oh, yeah. Like, the serum. Yeah. I've been using NARS...

tinted moisturizer as like my base and I love that love yeah something light something yeah just like do whatever you want but I love the look of like a like it doesn't look like you're wearing too much makeup I love to like do my eyes up a little bit like I love a cat eye same and like a thick brow but I don't like to do like much on my face yeah and I can tell right away when I've done too much but also like some people's skin is different like some people can take it that's just for me personally yeah I can't yeah wow

Was it hard to adjust doing the episodes on video? I love it. Guys, what a cute question. I know. I appreciate this question. I was like, that's really nice to ask. That is so sweet. I love doing the video. At first, I was like, oh my god, this means I have to like...

Yes. Do you like figure out an outfit? And now it's really fun to have the motivation once or twice a week to go into an office, get dressed. Yes. And like look cute. So it's fun except for the feet comments. Yeah. Literally except for that. It's great. And I also like love making the highlight reels and stuff. And it's just, yeah, it's fun. It feels like a different level of connection being able to be on video. Yes. So I love it. Your legs look amazing. My legs? Yeah. Gorgeous. Thank you so much. Look at those calves. Sorry guys. Catch us on YouTube. Yeah.

Maybe I am doing foot play now. God. Your legs do look just gray and so tan. Oh my God, thanks. So you guys know I'm a San Tropez girly, but they don't carry it at the Sephora where I go to, Marina. And so I tried, what is it, Isles of Paradise? Yeah. I love it. I love the face drops. That's like all I use for a long time. Wow, I love it. The smell kind of brings you back to a dark place, but that's for another time. Oh my God, I woke up this morning and I was like,

I've never smelled worse in my entire life from the self-tanner. Like, I just let it bake a little too long. Let it bake, honey. Let it bake. And it was ripe. I understand. Yeah, it was tough. I understand. Let's see. Go-to coffee order.

It depends on the weather, but it's always like a cold brew with half and half and a little Splenda or a hot coffee or latte with whole milk or half and half and a little Splenda. Which one did you have today? I had cold brew, whole milk, Splenda. Gorgeous. Yes, I just like to dump it all in there, you know? Why not? Mine's like the complete opposite. I know, we have literally opposite coffee orders. I'm just a hot Americano, like black. Do you like...

How long did it take you to adjust to the taste of black coffee? I ask my brother this all the time. I just watch him drink it, and I'm like, do you like it? I love the way it tastes. You love it? But Adrian likes Starbucks coffee. I don't like Starbucks coffee. He likes Starbucks and pizza. No. He's like, I don't want to go to a fancy. No. To me, those beans are burnt, and they actually do burn them to keep them consistent. I like a nice medium to light roast coffee.

Yeah. It took me, I just gradually, because in high school I would have coffee with the Coffee Mate hazelnut creamer and two Splendas. Yep. So it was really sweet. And then I was like, it was delicious. And then I cut down to like one Splenda. Yeah. And then like just the creamer. And like I slowly just like went down to it. So it's like a quiet taste. Yeah. It just like took a minute, but I love it now. Guys, I just can't do it. I don't think I can do it. You would just like, you kind of train yourself. I know. But now it's like, I can't.

I don't think I would like it. Like the sweetness? Yeah, exactly. Damn. Because, yeah, even if I have just black coffee, I have to put a packet of Splenda in. But that's fine. No, I know. I mean, Splenda's not going to kill you. No, I know. But people will come for us and say that I did. I was in a group of people one time, and they were like, oh, my God, I can't believe they're putting Splenda in stuff. Babe, I have Splenda. Two packs of Splenda in this iced tea right now. Nice. Nice.

Yeah, I think people that drink black coffee are like adults. Like I'm like, that is like European. It's chic. It's just like so easy and consistent and cheaper, even though not that much cheaper. Oh my God, coffee these days. I know. But like $4.50 is the average for like an Americano around here. That makes sense. Maybe one day. Maybe one day I'll try. But hey, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. That's true. That's true. Tessina, you pick the next one. Would you guys ever do more than one episode of Ram per week?

Not like research like this. There's just no way. Unless like also a network picked us up and we're like, we will pay you all this money to be able to do. But still, I wouldn't want to do two research episodes a week. No, it's just so much. And it's like the way that it works is like if Claire's hosting...

You know, she's researching the week before. The other person then kind of takes a little bit more like administrative stuff so they can focus on that because it does take a full week of research, like minimum. Like minimum. And then that week, then Claire's editing the episode. She's doing highlight reel. She's doing social like stuff.

everything and so it's just nice to we need one person kind of like on deck for other things with the other person's researching so there's just just too hard if you want more episodes so we're on premium you can get two more episodes a month yeah exactly and all the catalogs of the other episodes exactly and like on premium once in a blue moon we'll do like a historical thing that someone um suggests so just check it out yeah but we would not it's just i i would love to do like i would love to like

chime in with you guys every day but like I couldn't do historical stuff every single day your babies are expressing their boundaries yeah we are we are um what's what let me oh I think this question's really funny on a first date do you do the fake reach for your purse yes I do of

God, we're not monsters. And also, I do expect the first date. Sorry. You guys know we are so not old-fashioned on most things. But on that, if you're asking me on a date, wine and dine me, honey. Exactly. And if I ask you out on a date, I'm totally...

It's totally fine to pick it up. Yes. But if you're like, I'd like to take you here, you're fucking paying for that. Yes, exactly. And like, but I'll always reach for my purse. Same. And then like, if they don't tell me to stop, I will put my card down for half. But not happy. Not happy. Not happy at all. No. That's such a funny question. And like, be real about it. Take the shame out of that. Come on. Exactly. It's nice to, we have to go, women have to go through a lot of stuff. We really do. Like, it's nice just to get the check, you know? It is. To not get the check. It is. Also, like, think about all the work we, yeah, we put in for the date. Yeah.

The spray tan. The makeup. The new outfit. The hair. The mental torture. The exhaustion and anxiety. You can pick up the tab. Please. Please and thank you. Claire, how do you stay motivated in your life? That's a great question. You're a very motivated person, though. Even in high school, they're saying that you're motivated. Where does it come from? The high school thing, I'm still like, God. Where does the loneliness come from?

cut to our other Ask Us Anything. That was so funny. I was like holding a piece of paper. I was like getting really into it. I was like, I want to interview Claire like I am Diane Sawyer. It was so funny.

I think we're both motivated people. I think you have to be motivated to start your own project, your own creative project. We've always been entrepreneurial. I think if you love something, like it's easier to be motivated, but not every day. Like there are still times where I'm like, I don't want to do that. Like even getting through highlight reel sometimes, I'm like, how am I going to get through this? And like, I think taking breaks and honoring that and honoring your mental health with that. How do you stay motivated? Yeah.

Um, I think like similarly just like having a day like having a rot day per week. Yes, which my friend Christina has rebranded it to having a ripening day, which I love. I love that. And like it's just a day for me that like sometimes it can be on a Saturday, sometimes on a Sunday, sometimes like midweek if I'm just like don't have a lot to do and I'm just like, you know what?

I'm just going to like veg out, watch some like house, like kind of like not care about anything. I'm going to veg out and rot in hell. Rot in hell. So yeah, just have a day where you just like...

Don't have to do really much. Also being motivated. Okay. Or just like be lazy once a week, twice a week, whatever you need. Like it's really good for you. Being motivated. Also like watching things and like seeing other people do really well. Like that is motivating. Yeah. Cause sometimes I get a little competitive. Oh, for sure. For sure. It's motivating. Also like free shit. Like I would love some more free shit. So I'm going to be motivated, work harder. Yeah. We do have some Rammys that send us some free stuff. So if you're a Rami that works for a company and you want to send us stuff,

You just DM us. Please do it. Yes, please, because we love that. We scream. Yeah, we do. Just to wrap up a few. Yeah, I think we're getting to the end. I think so, too. Don't want to go on too long. Yeah. I think this is a good one, though. Like, what cliche do you think is bullshit and what cliche do you think holds truth? I know. You know what cliche I think is bullshit? What? Everything happens for a reason. Yep. I think that's a very...

unfair phrase. Yes. I really do. It is very unfair. It's what privileged people say that have never been through shit. Yeah. I think that some things actually can just be shitty and it's not like I think you can always grow from shitty situations. But I think if someone were to get really terrible news to tell someone, well, everything happens for a reason, that's not

fair it's not it's not universal no life can just be shitty and like we have no control of what's handed to us that's my belief anyways I agree and I think if that's helpful to you that's great but my opinion is like I don't think everything happens for a reason I think life just can sometimes happen that's yeah I totally agree with that you know like that quote that you see everywhere that's like I think it's the odd happen um happiest girls are the prettiest girls

I literally hate that more than anything because we are sad girlies most of the time. And we're gorgeous. You can just tell us if you think we're attractive. We're sad girls. I mean, please be kind. Yes. Yeah. I just can't with that. Like, the smile. Like, life. It's like, no. You can be in a depression and still be, like, a good person that's, like, attractive. Yeah. You can be depressed and sexy. Yeah.

No, for real though. It's just that that's such a toxic quote. It's so toxic and I hate it. That's more of a quote than a cliche, but that's just what comes to mind. No, for sure. No, that is a cliche though. Just like, just smile and be happy. Yeah. Yeah. Like enough. Enough. Taylor Armstrong, enough. Oh, and then also like kind of like with relationships of just the idea of like, where are they even going with this? I know a relationship cliche. Kind of like...

I don't know how to explain this, but you know when there's like, we have to be together all the time or like, you know, if you love someone, you're like, I don't know, just like be independent in your relationship. That's just like what I'm trying to say. Yes. And also another relationship cliche I think is never go to bed angry.

I agree. Let it settle. Sometimes I can't bring myself to it. Like, I can't bring myself to be nice before bed if I'm in a fight. Sometimes you just need a good night's sleep and then you wake up being like, what was that? Instead of, like, picking at it and picking at it, like, let each other feel. Truly. God, what bad sleeps those always are, though, you know? You just have a pit and you're just, like, dreading the morning. It's all circumstantial, of course, but I don't think it's, like, never go to bed angry. No, I think that you should listen to your

what you need and your bodies are like I'm not ready yet yeah go to sleep you don't need to like deal with it no and you can be angry whenever you want to be angry like that's a real emotion totally what's a good cliche it's a good cliche that holds truth um laughter is the best medicine I mean yeah that wow are you good at these I'm like haven't been saying cliches this whole time I'm like I like this one quote no but no that's a quote too though yeah no no that's true um laughter that's

one Claire yeah and it is so true it is that one is like a cliche but it's real like what does cliche mean yeah just like stereotypical stupid stuff I think so I think yeah it's like so cliche but yeah yeah that's good yeah that's all I can think of a good good uh question that is a great question

Do you think we should end it there? Yeah. I mean, I think so. I think that's gorgeous. Guys, this was so fun. This was so fun. I hope that you guys got to know. If you want to know even more about us or if we've said anything, and I know we've pitched this so much, but, like, we just want to connect on premium. Yeah. It's, like, really starting to form into something, I think, that, like,

we even didn't expect. Like, it's just really raw and vulnerable and we're connecting with other people that we don't know in such a beautiful way that has just, like, completely, like, made...

our lives. There are just some things that we can't say here because it's public, but we can in a private setting. Like if you thought this was personal, premium is times a hundred and there are tears, there's anger, there's laughter, there's more detail about everything that we even just talked about right now. And I did, we did get a question about like, you guys just want to know a little bit about like more of my relationship and engagement story. Um, that's,

we have an entire episode that Claire created and like curated all on premium about it. It's a test special. It's a test special and it was the sweetest thing ever and so you can you can hear

You can hear about it on there because I love talking about it, but my fiancé is a little bit more private. Yes. So we just like honor that and we keep it there. Yeah, exactly. We will be back on June 17th. I know the subject that we're coming back with. Do we say it? Let's say it on premium. Okay, we're saying it on premium. Sorry, guys. We have to do this shit because we also have to honor like what we told the premium kids. That's true. That's true because you get to know the subjects ahead of time. But you've been asking for it. And I'm excited.

I'm excited to dive in. I have no idea. Me either. I'm like, what the hell? I still don't understand. How? Yeah, same. Literally, how? How? So we'll miss you so much. Follow us on Instagram at Right Answers Mostly. Same thing on TikTok. Tell your friends about Ram. Please tell your friends about Ram. Yes. And we will miss you guys. But happy summer break. We love you. Be safe out there. Bye. Bye.