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What's going on besties and welcome to this week's episode of pillows and beer I'm joined by mr. Craig Conover who's chilling at his house in Charleston, South Carolina Nick Norris We need to make up a new joke about where where Nick is because I know where he is and that's not fun I can't make fun of him. He's in Virginia and we're all here hanging out with you and What's going on y'all?

I feel like Nick's more of a West Virginia person. I know he is. I know. But like, we've made that joke so many times that like, I know that he lives in Virginia, so I can't even make fun of it. So we just got to figure out, or I have to figure out where, where Nick is going to live now in my head. Yeah. We're back second week in this new season or whatever it may be of a pillows and beer. Austin and I got to see each other yesterday. We had our,

Photo shoot. Got to catch up a little bit. It's always funny in the off season how our relationships are. And I hope, you know, I see TV evolving a little bit to follow. Like, I don't know. I just think it's different now. And it's, I don't, I mean, would I be wrong for saying, Austin, that

like a fourth wall show would be awesome to see us like doing yesterday you know like all you get to see from yesterday is like the videos that come from it but like it was a production in itself you know like who's gonna be there whose times overlap like hair and makeup what are you gonna wear like i think all the boys picked their suits out like yesterday like that's funny to me yeah

I've, I've, I've always thought that like a fourth wall show would be funny because the behind the scenes drama is super dramatic. And it's funny that you say that, right, Craig, because you and I talking to a lot of people that I hadn't talked to in like a while, you know, chit, chit chat and, you know, with them. And I was like, well, I'm going to see Craig, you know, tomorrow. So, you know, I'll just give him like a high five again, passing and probably talk to him later.

But it's fun to see like our counterparts, you know, from NBC and Bravo, like the network is like, we've come up with a lot of people over the last 12 years that just have jobs on the other side of the camera or from like the corporate office. Like there's thousands of people that go into making these shows happen. Well, thousands a lot, but it might be, but hundreds at least. And so to see everyone like,

on the corporate side, move up the ladder, you know, the corporate ladder and like our interactions with some of them make me laugh because they're different than someone just starting the show because someone's starting the show. Like if they run into like, you know, one of like the VPs or the head of this, like to them, they're like, oh my gosh, that's that person. But to us, we

We know them from when they were like just starting out as like a rookie. So you're like, Hey, what's up? And everyone's like, it's, it's like a big family. Like it's, it is neat. Like that's my favorite part is seeing, you know, a lot of the same people that were at Andy's 15th anniversary party. Like it's going to be like, I, it's like your coworkers, but like,

um, it's just a side that a lot of people don't get to see and I think um, I like talking about that a little bit because I think We've reached this point in television Where like it's very real what we're filming. Um, but that doesn't mean that there's not a life outside of that, right? It's not a 24-hour Uh show and sometimes how the pudding is made is actually pretty interesting or sausage whatever I think

that it is very interesting. And what's funny is that as you were saying that it made me think, right, you were like, you know, thousands of workers. And then you're like, well, thousand might be like an overstep or an overstatement.

And I thought that way, by the way, about Bravo Talent, Craig. For the very first BravoCon, I remember being like, oh man, there's thousands of us. And then they came out with the lineup or whatever. And I was like, wait, there's only like 150 of us or less than that? I was like, oh my gosh. So the fact that there's only like 150 of us, I mean, yeah, man, there probably is like a thousand of them, Craig. And them being workers at NBCU, at VVP,

Bravo at Peacock. I mean, a entire village to make 150 of us go round. Yeah, it's wild. It is wild. And I personally... Wild's my word of the day. I know they... It's wild. Our drama with them sometimes is, yeah, tops. Yeah, exactly. There's just other people there working and you're like...

you know like say Shep treats them like a certain way during like something that he's filming and then they come to us or like I yell at them or you yell at them and they're just like oh Shep's on one today I mean yeah like I mean we spend so much time with these people for you know like the the like film you know duration that they know us better than we know ourselves you know sometimes

A fourth show would be awesome, Craig. I think you're onto something. We should call Whitney maybe and get something going. It would be like that Spider-Man meme when they're all pointing at each other because then there would be a camera crew filming our camera crew. Like a show about the producers would, to their credit, be almost better than our show. I think so too. I think so too because I wonder what life is like when they go back to –

you know, their, you know, village, that's what I'm going to call it. Right. They're, they're, they're like Olympic village. Right. Is there like, you know, incest, like, are they all, you know, sleeping together? Are, are they feuding? Are they fighting? Like they meet up and drink together in, in like each other's rooms. Like that is a show. Like go like that red team wants to be with us that day or yellow teams like, no, no, no, no. I don't want to fucking go deal with like them or like,

You know what it would do? It would break our hearts, Austin. It would really, really hurt our feelings. Everything that we think about ourselves of being like, they love us. We would watch it and be like, I'm going to go jump off.

Yeah, I mean, of course, of course, I have like opinions about us and they're not all fucking sunshine and rainbows, you know, I mean, because sometimes we film something like super tough and super raw and super, you know, or when you get angry and so emotions are flying all over the place and they're probably, you know, leaving like, fuck those motherfuckers.

You know, I mean, I get, I get, you know, I tell people and I want to talk a little bit more on this podcast for now on, like I do it, like my meet and greets at the store because, um,

You know, we have a long leash, but that's because we're very respectful of the process and stuff. But we understand that the viewers are part of this, like, family and world, and they're not, like, stupid. Obviously, there's work that goes into this stuff. But I tell people that one of my favorite parts about filming is the crew.

because we've known them for so long and like there's overlap. Like we get to see them when we would film Winter House and Summer House and here, like the camera teams and the sound teams, like, you know, producers have a different job to do, but we love them too. And so it's fun. Like, it's like being back in college. And then anyway, when they leave, this was, I actually was asking Austin a question and he just got up from the thing anyway. I think he took it until he had to leave.

I was going to say that it's sad when we wrap filming because you spend every day with these people and these people, I mean the crew, and then they just leave. And then part of my part is they go to another show and you're like, so you're just going to go hang out with like people on Vanderbilt rules now every day. And they're like, Craig, we have to like go to our other job. And I'm like, yeah, but you're my friends.

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Oh, you besties. Austin, I was in the middle of asking you a pretty long question and then you just got up and like, I thought that you were, I thought that you were monologuing on your way to a break. And so I was like, okay, man, this is perfect. You know, Craig is about to talk and then be like, okay. And with that, I'm taking a quick break. No, I was going to say, are you sad when they leave? And I said, I get jealous. Cause I'm like, so what? You're just going to go hang out with like Vanderpump rules people now every day instead of us. Yeah.

Did actually hear that. And, and I think it's like a two with yes, of course you become close with some of the people and you know, you're like, damn man. I, I think it's funny because I grew up.

in a construction household like my dad owned a cleaning company that turned into like a like a natural disaster company that turned into construction we i mean i worked for the company i consider myself a worker we used the word worker in the company i didn't know anything

about of it. But my sewing down South team does not like that word. They're like, you're not your workers. We are your employees. And it's like a big, isn't that the same thing? Not to them. And so like, it's a funny joke where they're like, remember when Craig used to call us as workers and I'd be like, but you're like, so no, I guess it's not like a, like some, like some people don't like the word workers, I guess. Yeah.

Okay. Wait, how did that, wait, where did that come from? Because you said there's a lot of workers that go into our show and I'm laughing because I agree. Like to me, I'm a work, like,

I didn't know that worker isn't like that there's an opinion about it now. Like some people don't like that word. Okay. Okay. Noted. Noted by the Gen Zers. Same thing. You know, I grew up doing construction since I could walk. But I mean, that's kind of weird. I've never, because when you introduce someone, you say they work for me. They're not, and I'm not their employer.

Like he works for me. I don't know. It was just funny. Cause I, I was like, see, I knew I wasn't the only one that said like white collar versus blue collar. Yeah. Okay. All right. See, and like you learn these little things, Craig, um, from the younger generation who tells us what we're supposed to say and not supposed to say, okay, well I still like, you know, worker, unless someone thinks it's like a derogatory term, which I don't think it is.

Yeah. They'll have to do a poll. Would you be offended if you're caught a worker by the boss of your company? I mean, I wouldn't introduce you and be like, hey guys, man, this is my worker, Craig. I don't think I would say that. So what's the poll, Craig?

Just would you be offended if you were called a worker by your employers? Okay. Like you were referred to as a worker instead of employee. That's what it is. All right. Okay. Austin, how was all-star weekend down in Texas? Yeah, man. Honestly, shout out Travis Matthew, who we all love and,

um they are great to us and and um i forgot my headphones are not connected to my board right now so i see i was like record scratch yeah record scratch sorry i love you too and they um

Yeah, so we did not go to the All-Star game, but went to the Home Run Derby, which arguably stole the show because...

of the national anthem. And that says almost everything that needs to be said about it. Now, people kept on asking me if I saw it. And honestly, I think that I was either trying to find my seat still or I almost texted you and was like, dude, did you just hear that after I found out that it wasn't what I thought? The answer is no. The answer is no. I didn't hear it because I think that I was moving around within the stadium. I wasn't at my seat yet. Right. You know, to take off my hat and to

And, um, and, but I saw so much about it obviously, uh, thereafter and then that she posted and said, so is this girl, is this girl like, had she been a country singer for long? Like, is she young? I don't know any of the details about her. I've never heard of her before, but that's not saying anything. Cause I'm not like Mr. Country. We're not very hip. Yeah. Do you know anything about this girl? Okay. Yeah.

um because and so for everyone listening what happened was basically it was a terrible terrible rendition of the it sounded like someone made out of the fans right and it wasn't like stylistic like the person was just like all over the place and so it's red glare you're like what what is like so she came out and brought it on her

that she was like, look, I'm not even going to lie to y'all. I was hammered drunk last night when I went out there. Clearly, I have a problem, so I'm checking myself into rehab. And then she said, I hear rehab's pretty fun. I'll let y'all know. I have an issue with that. Oh, okay. What's the issue? I think she's taking a lot of time to rehab. My spider senses tell me that it was sarcastic.

And if she does go to rehab, then power to her and I will give her all of the props in the world and be like, that is incredible. I feel like it came off a little bit like a cop out. Do you actually think that she's going to rehab or you're saying that you don't think so?

I, I'm saying this in, in, in a, in a respectful way of saying, I hope that I'm wrong in thinking that she just said that on her story. So no, my inkling is that she, she kind of just said it. And in that moment might've been like, fuck, I definitely need to go to rehab, but I don't think that she actually liked it. Okay. Okay. Because it's funny that you say that.

Because I feel like we've all at the end of like a long ass weekend, you know, whether it's like a bachelorette weekend or like a particularly fun ass wedding weekend, you know, you're like, all right, guys, you know, deuces. Like I'm checking myself into passages, right? I have said that joke.

repeatedly, right? Like, like, oh man, what a, what, what a wild weekend. I'm taking a break forever. See, I'll never. So you think that she said it like in that manner, because I'm pretty sure that when she wrote it, she was like, I have decided to check myself into a facility, which sounded very like, no, no, you're,

I understand what you're saying. I'm not saying she said it as a joke. Okay. I'm saying that in that moment, she probably felt that, but it's something that you shouldn't say unless you're actually going to do it. And I get the sense that like, I think it was said in complete with, I think she was genuine when she said it about being like, wow, I just had this like opportunity of a lifetime and I was drunk. She made a joke at the end of it.

I think they left the door open to be like in a couple days, which we have friends like this, in a couple days, all of a sudden the guilt wears off and you're like, okay, I'm just going to make sure I never do that again. So I think if you say that you're going to go to rehab, I think you should follow through with it. That's what I'm saying. I don't think she said it as a joke. I just am like, I don't – like the joke at the end I get, but I just –

I don't know. Nick, do you like, do you know what I'm trying to say or no? I get what you're trying to say. She, if she sees it through good on her, if she goes for like two days or something and says, all right, I'm good. And then I know she's canceled the rest of her tour. Okay. So like, well, it was on tour. So like, she's a touring country artist.

I'm just saying if you use rehab in your apology, yeah, if you use rehab in your apology, it's going to have such an effect because it was. Every headline after that was then country singer blah, blah, blah said she's going to rehab. I just feel like you should see it through. Here's another. Next year, like partying in Nashville or something. Yeah. Right. And here's another layer to it that it just kind of came to my head and

And, and, and I'm, you know, doing this to spark a conversation amongst us, but do either of you think that like either of this, because you never know what you like, what you can become fucking viral for these days. Right. Like, is this some, some sort of thing where she's like, okay, like I bombed this.

And then, you know, now my name is on everyone's tongue. But you think she did it on purpose? Is that what you're trying to say? I don't know, man. The fucking hot cup to a girl is all over the place. I think she blacked it out. And when she woke up, she was like, holy shit. Like, this is bad, man. That's why I'm being like.

I think she was serious about her apology, but if you're going to throw out the rehab word, I think you have to go. That's, that's, I guess what I'm saying. I, I would bet. And I would imagine that she's going, she's going to rehab. Yeah.

because that would be, once again, it'd be wild. It'd be wild if she didn't go. Because we deal with this in our personal lives in Charleston is what I'm saying. And so maybe me and you or I have a lesser of patience for people being like, hey, I'm going to go get help. And then two weeks later, you see him out partying. So I'm hoping she's not like the typical person in our friend group in Charleston. I see, I see.

I see. There's no way she did it on purpose though. I don't know why I bought that one. As much as we live in viral moments, that's the wrong kind of way to go viral. Well then, here's a question for you, Nick. Okay. So we've decided that no, it was not a publicity stunt.

Do you think that when she comes out of rehab that she's bigger than ever? Because people are like, comeback story, like, you know, viral moment. But I don't think she was a very good singer, but I guess she could be hammered. That could be part of the problem. But there's plenty of rock stars that were on drugs and they're great live. Yeah, but we're not singing the national anthem.

No, but yeah, like we need help, you know, but I'm just saying like, if I never went nuclear and said the rehab word, if I did, I would have had to have seen it through. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

Okay. I feel like you're going to rehab. I do think that's a bold statement to say, I think you go to rehab and you mean it and then you come out. If you're going to like announce it on your socials and you're going to like, you know, exclaim to the world and know that it's going to get, you know, picked up all over the place, then yes, that, that is a, that is a seen through, a must see through thing.

thing that it's a hard stop to criticism that's the thing like you're playing your card like that card is going to stop people from talking about you which good for you for playing that card i just think it's a card you have to see through that's all because

I just, yeah, I don't want to like blame. Well, she'll, she'll, she'll absolutely men see it through. Cause I like you just said it too, but like her publicist will not let her not see it through. She's like, are you kidding me? Like, this is what we talked about and this is what you're doing. And this is what is going to, you know, revamp your career and you're going to come back bigger and better and for it. And if she, and if she hears this by whatever chance, she's,

you're fine people are going to forget about this pretty quickly just don't do it again you know like that's the thing like you're gonna be everybody loves a phoenix yeah a thousand percent absolutely as soon as you get out of rehab you have your publicist book you

Nick, listen, you have your publicist book you somewhere and you absolutely do one. And then you hire a film crew to film the whole thing, right? I mean, you don't have to be like a crew.

What? You didn't ruin, like, she didn't ruin her. Fergie didn't need to, dude. Fergie was already, like, mega famous and mega fucking everything. She just, like, sang it in a weird ass way. The second worst rendition of the National Anthem. Okay. Well, she just sang it in a weird ass way. Like, she wasn't hammer drunk. She didn't, like, you know, pee her pants and then sing the National Anthem, which this girl, man, Borderline did. And so what she does is that she, she,

you know, books like a videographer to, you know, have her sing in it and then you mash it together. And then it's like, and this is where I've come. Boom. You know, life is, you know, on the up and up and that's what you do. Okay. To close this out though. Do we give her props for, I was surprised to see the story. Do we give her props for admitting that she was drunk or someone was like, uh, admitting you were drunk is better than people just thinking you're a bad singer.

Yeah, I would agree with that. It was, you know, admit that you made a mistake. Don't let people think you're a terrible singer live. I think that, yeah. I mean, I wonder what that behind the scenes looked like for her and her team where she

Maybe like she actually, man, came out of the blackout if, you know, she had a blackout and was like, whoa, I'm like genuinely fucking terrified. Or if yes, or if, you know, her team was like, look, to spin this, like we need to do this. Also like shame on the friend that let her go out there. And I know people are going to be like, dude, you guys have tried to control drunk friends before too. But like,

Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. It's like asking a friend for their keys, right? You borderline have to fight them. Back in high school or something, you're like, give me your keys. And it's like, no, I can drive. And you have to wrestle them to the ground. I mean, imagine what that would look like, a girl walking out to sing the national anthem at the home run derby. How do you wrestle your friend to the ground? No.

let them go sing they're like crazy i'm fine unless they like visibly weren't when she was walking out yeah she should have been pretty it should have been noticeable then you see all of these like singers that don't go out on stage at night at their shows and you're like god their managers must have the tough because the manager is the one that like pulls the plug you know the bigger singers

But we're rooting for, what's her name? Ingrid. We're rooting for you, Ingrid. And we will, I have a, I have a feeling that we'll end up at one of her shows one day if it works out. You guys say you don't know anything about her, right? Like you hadn't heard really of her. No. But now a lot of people do. Yeah. All right. Well, we're going to take another quick break, but then I want to hear,

to hear about how many hot dogs that Austin ate at the All-Star Game. I would like to talk to you about one of our sponsors, Timeline Nutrition, and one product in particular, MitoPure. MitoPure is one of the first products to offer a precise dose of urolithin A to help upgrade your mitochondrial function, help increase cellular energy, and help improve muscle strength and endurance. I've started taking it recently and I've started to tell that there is definitely when I work out or I'm active.

But MitoPure does more than just help with my muscles. It can help with health stand as well. I want to be one of those granddads one day that you see in the video of him swinging his grandkid around. I want to rely on myself for as long as I possibly can. One way to think of MitoPure is that they are in your cells, chomping up the damaged mitochondria that makes you feel old and tired and helping to recycle it into new healthy ones.

Mitochondria, our cell's power generators, are one of the key influences in how we age. However, as the years pass, mitochondrial efficiency naturally declines, representing a large gap in the quality of life we expect in our later years and the one we experience.

Taking two soft gels a day for two months and you could see significant improvements in your cellular energy, muscle strength, and endurance. After four months of taking Mito Pure, you might feel yourself getting stronger, recovering faster after a workout, and experiencing less inflammation, all part of your healthier aging routine, which is honestly amazing.

Timeline is offering 10% off your first order of Mito Pure. Go to timeline.com slash pillowsandbeer. That's T-I-M-E-L-I-N-E dot com slash pillowsandbeer. These statements and products have not been evaluated by the Friedenslug administration. These products are not invented by no street pure company.

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Get your first month free at greenlight.com slash pod. Greenlight.com slash pod. What's up, besties? This is Pillows and Beer. I'm Craig Conover, joined by Austin Kroll and Nick Norris. And I can't wait to pick up with Austin and how many glizzies that he ate at the game.

Oh man, Craig, I did eat some glizzies. Actually, I ate one Mondo glizzy, but before we get to that, somehow you made it even worse. I was just about to say, I was just about to say, how are you feeling about the word glizzy until I threw the word Mondo in front of it? And now I just really ruined it. But one of our friends was listening to our podcast about glizzy, shout out Tulane, he

He was on a little road trip with his wife and he was texting me. He was like, okay, Glizzy is 100% a Glock, right? And then he's like, but... And he just began to give me the whole rundown about how...

Big pun, made it big in 2000. And then it began to be talked about as a hot dog in like 2013, that it's totally fine and acceptable to refer to one as a hot dog as a glizzy. Now, that doesn't mean that it doesn't give Craig the ick still. And that is perfectly fine too. But let's see, Craig, when I got on the All-Star game, the first thing I did was find a glizzy. And that's probably why I missed the national anthem.

And I found a like foot long, ridiculous fucking hot dog with like onions and chili and like Frito lays on it. And I was like, I have to get this like absurd, you know, hot dog. Like I have to get this. This is like a ridiculous thing to sell. But of course, I mean, Texas, you know, everything's bigger and more gaudy and everything in Texas. I saw that Bloody Mary. That was good on Shep's story.

Bloody Mary. Yeah, it was like the coolest Bloody Mary I've ever seen. And Shep was like, no for me. And I was like, of course, something that I think looks good you are hating on. We've had this conversation before. Do you like a lot of stuff? I probably wasn't with him. I

I love all of it. I probably wasn't with them for it, man, because I would have absolutely gotten it had I seen it. I like all the accoutrements because I dipped them into the Bloody Mary mix. Totally. Yeah, like just a piece of bacon, some celery, and that's it. Yeah, this had like shrimp and stuff. I was surprised that it wasn't awesome. That totally tracks for you, brother. That totally tracks that you are –

Nick, the least interesting drinker in the world. Are we going to try to play in the softball game next year or no? I mean, I think that I would kill it in the softball game. I'm not going to lie. Which brings me to, I saw West there and West did play in the softball game. West from Summer House. And

uh he said that he had a blast he was like it's so much fun man and now like i'm hanging out you know with all the guys from it and stuff i was like what the freaking heck man he texted me and said if you have a chance if they ask you to do it do it i said yeah i mean i feel like that's makes sense and um

I saw that he had an inside the park homer and this and that. And I was like, hey, that's awesome. And that is cool. And you slid in headfirst home. I love that. That was like a baseball move. And then you got up and

I mean, you hip checked like a teammate. I was like, but you were reaching for it, man. It's like, you didn't wait for it to come to you. You reached for it and hit it. It doesn't matter because the result was the same, but I had to critique a bit as if. Did you, did you guys have a good, how long did you guys hang out? We hung out, man, prior to the game a bit. We had like a beer together, right? And then I was like, all right, man, you know,

We have to jet, you know, this way and he had to jet that way. And then we met up in the game because a bunch of the people that participated in the all-star game had a box and he was like, y'all should come up here. And so we went up there towards like, you know, the back end of it. And then we hung out for another, like, you know, 30 minutes or so. Do you have his number now? I do. Nice. I do. Yeah. Been texting a bit.

I haven't gave him some advice. I know that some of y'all out there are like, "What the hell do you know about giving someone advice?" But it was funny. It was funny. For him, did you meet my buddy, Matt James? I did not meet Matt, no. I don't know where Matt was at. I was actually planning on bringing you up to him though if I did, but no, I don't think I did. No, I did not.

Man, remember one of the highlights and then we're going to move on, man, from this, but they were selling beer out of a baseball bat, Craig. So like the beer was in like a 22 ounce, you know, hollowed out like plastic bat. And when I saw those, I like ran to find Shep. I was like, Shep, come here, come here.

Cause I knew that Shep would love that shit. And we got one of those souvenir baseball bats and it was, I don't know. It was awesome. Like, I don't know why I think cause men just like are simple creatures and it just like really got me going. I was like baseball bat beer. I mean, for God's sakes, it was like a Miller light just being served out of baseball bat, but it was awesome. And I was like, I exclusively want to drink beer out of a baseball bat from now on.

He, Wes and Jesse from Summer House did this video explaining Summer House or Southern Charm. So we'll have to watch that before the next episode. But Peyton was like, did you watch it? And I was like, I have a hard time watching videos about myself. Sure. What did she say? What did Peyton have to say? She said it was funny. She was like, you're weird. She was just like, oh, it was fine. Speaking of people in the entertainment world, but way...

More accomplished than us. We had Amanda Seedfried and her team at the store this week, which was really fun. Yeah, tell me about that. And thanks for the invite, but you know why I couldn't come. Yeah, you were in touch. Yeah, it looked like it was awesome. Yeah, her team...

her team marine and anne are great and so one of her childhood best friends lives in charleston one lives in delaware near my parents and then amanda lives near us in the city so it's all very serendipitous but they uh they have a company called make it cute and

And it came out of COVID where one of the partners had gotten a refrigerator, a new refrigerator. And so their kids turned it into a fort and they were like, all right, well, we can't have this like cardboard box in our living room anymore. So they went to throw it away. And I remember as a kid, when my parents got a new refrigerator and I cried when they threw the box away, cause I was like, how could you, you know, like we'd cut windows in it and all this stuff. And so they were like, there's gotta be a way to,

to make, you know, those forts cute basically, uh, and presentable and do it in a like resourceful, renewable way. And so her and her two best friends made collapsible, foldable cardboard forts basically that are like really neat looking. And, um,

They don't have, but you know, the kids love to nap and do sleepovers in them. And that's kind of where we came into the picture with pillows and blankets for that. So we all got along swell. Amanda was great. We had, we don't have closed door events at the store too often. So all these people were out front.

you know, taking pictures. And Amanda was like, oh, does that happen often? And I was like, I mean, it's kind of like, you know, thing we're on the main street. And she was like, you know, and usually I would go out and take pictures with everyone, but you never know other people's vibes. Like you don't, you know, want to assume. And she was like, well, why don't we go out there and take pictures with everyone? And I was like, oh, hell yeah. I was like, okay, so you're like, cool. Like, thank God. And so we went out and man,

like, I guess some characters, I'm pretty sure it's mama Mia and stuff impacted like young girls lives because they were all crying. Like girls were coming up to Amanda, like bawling their eyes out being like, you've like helped me through this. You helped me through this. Or like, we played your character at our school play. Like it was pretty cool to watch. So, um,

And then that's awesome. Yeah. Like it's nice when you see like a Hollywood person be nice, you know, to like that they're nice, you know, it just, it sucks when people suck. And fortunately Amanda didn't suck. That is awesome to hear. I have to impart something that struck me. So make it nice, correct? Make it cute. Make it cute. Make it cute. One of the,

So I used to babysit my sister because I'm eight and a half years older than her. And one of the things that we still talk about is this one time I made her a fort out of boxes and we called it fucking box town.

And, and it was like, you know, tunnels and all this stuff. And like, and like, we literally put, put like a lamp in there and, and we made like a main Ford area and it was just been out of boxes. And like Katie always wanted me to babysit her growing up and make her box town. And that's so funny that that is what,

Amanda did. I mean, she straight up just made a company out of it. And that is so smart. Cause obviously man, ours, you know, it was ugly as shit. And I'd be like, Hey Katie, man, here, here are like, you know, markers. And you know, she would start coloring on them, but you know, they didn't look as cute by any means. So many memories. Yeah. Wild. Well, yeah. So now you can like leave it out or put it away. And so we had all of our friends with kids came like Brooke brought her kids and like my college friends and man,

the kids had needed no introduction to those things. They ran right for them. And there's a backdoor because the parents needed to like drag their kids out of it sometimes because they didn't want to get out of the fort. But it was funny because

my college friends came to support and, uh, my buddy, Sean, who's my old roommate who was on the show a little bit. He remembered that me and Amanda and him had hung out 14 years ago when they filmed dear John here in Charleston and Rodrigo actually had hung out with her because they lived on queen street, uh, near the filming of dear John. Yeah. And so I was hanging with the guys of that movie. Like Scott Porter was great. And, um, he,

He wanted to go to like the college bars and we went to like, yes. And so what's funny is when I walked into the dollar with him, everyone was like, Jason street can walk. And I was like, what's that about? And he was like, he's like, I play a character in a wheelchair. And I was like, oh, that's funny. And so Sean, and then Amanda was like, wait, I think I was with you guys. She was like, wasn't it Halloween?

And Sean was like, it was Halloween. And she's like, I'm pretty sure that I went with you guys to the bar. And then we all went back to Channing's house who was having a big Halloween party. And it was just kind of like a funny, like 14 years later. Did you, did you do that? Yeah. Yeah. It was like all of us started. I feel like I've heard this before. I feel like I've heard this before, maybe from you. Right. Or like Rodrigo or something talking about Channing.

But we just, so it was really cool. And then we did a beach cleanup the next day on Isle of Palms with earthday.gov. And fortunately, shout out to Isle of Palms. They keep a pretty clean beach. So like I was walking up with two of my employees, shout out to May and Gracie. And it was nine in the morning and we're like, had just parked our cars. And they're like, I can't believe we're here with, like, we were all just kind of like, it was early to do a beach cleanup and,

And then we won. Like, I think one of the girls said it, they were like, you know, this beach is pretty clean. And I was like, yes, I'm well aware that we're going to clean up a clean beach. So it was kind of funny. It was almost like a treasure hunt. Probably. You're like, I found something. I found something. Yeah.

They're like, Craig, that's a seashell. You're like, no, no, no. It's trash. It's trash. I'm doing my part. Shark teeth and sea glass. That was really fun. I am a fan of Julia and Julia or Letters to Julia. Have you seen that movie? Letters to Juliet, I think. Yeah, Letters to Juliet. That's what it is. Julia and Julia is like a cooking show. Yes, and she was a mean girl. That was like her first big role, wasn't it?

i think she didn't go to college because she got mean girls i'm pretty sure like that was during the time when they all how big is she craig what what i mean by that is how how you know tall is she is she like five she's like eight years she's like okay um so she's like a small girl i always thought she was taller uh well she's my describe pages

- Yeah, but she's small, right? - She's five, three? - Yeah. - Who? - According to Google. - Don't always believe what you read on the internet. - Paige is five, three, I think. - Okay. - But letters to Juliet, they go to like Italy and there's like a whole thing where you put like love letters in this wall and like these older Italian women hand through the letters and like her mom. It's a cute love story in Italy, but she was wonderful. Her team was wonderful and we look forward to working

was make it cute this holiday season that's a little bit of a sneak peek um according to google craig pages five six oh maybe i don't know i don't know i feel like her uh that's a little sound that sounds tall google also pegged me at five eight at one point yeah and it said that i wore like a size eight shoe and that i was like a hundred is this wikipedia or five pounds

I don't know. But like when you Google it, I'm going to go to Wikipedia and change some small things around. Yeah. And Craig's convinced that it was Madison that I think it was Madison that trolls Austin through his Google demographic and was, yeah. And I got a lot of DMS about it. People were like, wait, I just Googled your heights. You're five, eight. I was like, oh geez. Um, all right. We're going to take a quick break and, uh,

When we come back, I kind of want to tell you guys about the addition to our family. We'll be right back.

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Right? Isn't it Daphne? Yeah, but I didn't name her. Well, dude, isn't that what you have sewed on the pillow? No, Penelope. Oh, Penelope. Okay, okay, okay. I thought it was Daphne. No, Paige. I was like, oh, man. Bullshit. I haven't said this to Paige because, like, it's fine. And, like, I know her reaction would be like, it's my cat anyway. But it's our cat, you know. And...

But she was like, I'm going to name the babies. You can name all our animals. And I want to be like, what happened to that rule? Because I had no part of naming this animal. Where were you on that one, dipshit? You were Paige. I mean, she's in New York right now. But no, I mean, she's Paige's cat. Is she going to come and talk to her when she visits? Yeah. So, you know, eventually. So...

So I have been thinking about this a lot, actually. And I went and looked at some cats not too long ago, like a month or two ago. And I looked at two of them, actually.

And I was like really, really thinking about it, right? Because I feel like I'm gone too much for a dog and I want to make sure the dog has a good life and all this stuff. And I just thought that I couldn't get a dog yet, even though that I want one because I love dogs. And I just thought that a cat would be better because they can fend for themselves and more so.

And, um, yeah, so I actually looked at him and I really want an orange cat. What is Penelope? Penelope? Uh, no, no, sorry, Daphne. That's funny. We should just call her that. Daphne is a rag doll, which is actually, she has been true to her breed so far. She is acclimated so well in three days and she just like loves lounging. Like if you're lounging, she's going to jump up and lounge with you. Like if you're doing something else, she's going to go like explore and be playful, but

They like come to the door when you get home. Like they're very cuddly, but she's a rag doll. What's an orange cat? What's Garfield? Okay. So Garfield guy, that would be funny. Yeah, dude. I think that an orange cat fits me amazingly. So an orange cat is kind of like, is kind of like a goofy goober. Yeah.

I think that some people would describe an orange cat as being mean or dismissive. And I just think that an orange cat has more of a personality than any other cat. And to me, that is hilarious. And I've heard that. So you go out of town, right? And then you come back and an orange cat will just ignore you because you were gone for a week. They've got an attitude. They're like, fuck you. I love that. They would.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I, and I love that. Like they love you, but they're not going to tell you that. And I bet that like a lot of people out there would probably be like, well, that's kind of the same thing with any cat and that, and that might be true. Might be true. You know, we're all cats are sassy and I kind of like that. Um, so yeah, I've, I've actually thought about, uh, not to steal your thunder Craig, but I've actually thought about the cat too. No, that's, that's great. I don't mind at all. I

I think everyone could get a cat. It's a Persian tabby cat. Persian tabby is what Garfield is. A tabby cat. You know, it's funny because everyone says like, and I actually was talking to Amanda about this because she has some animals, but I was like, this is our cat.

Our first one and Paige did it in a funny way because I knew that she was getting close. Like she's been like, I, it's time, like I need an animal. And I was, you know, completely fine with it. And I was just like, you know, we're going to have to be able to travel with whatever animal we get because we, you know, I don't want our travel schedule to change. Like, you know, going up there and down here.

And so she sent me a picture and she said, meet Daphne. And it was like the, like, and it was serendipitous. Like I've used that word twice here. Uh, a family was supposed to get Daphne and her brother and went to pick them up and said that they had changed their mind the day before. And they only wanted the boys. So Daphne was left by herself and page happened to call that day and say she was looking for a rag doll. And, um,

They were like, we have one for you. Yeah. And so there was a fucking point to that story. Anyway. Oh, the point was, you know, people always say, once you get an animal, you can't imagine life without them. But, you know, before you get them, you're like, I just...

I don't know. Like, I don't know. And now it's only been a couple of days and pages. Like, I don't know what I was doing before this. Like she like is like, I really don't understand what I was like living. Like, I don't want to speak for her, but like, she can just be like, this is everything like her, her,

They have both taken to each other very well, I will say. I wimped out so hard, right? Because I was like, oh, wait, is it right? Is it right? Is it right? And the answer is yes. I think it's right. I think it's right.

for me at this point. So in the next, like, you know, six months could maybe see myself kind of pulling the trigger on something too, but that makes me happy because I just think that cats are a lot of fun. And when I tell people they're like you with a cat, I'm like, first off, fuck you. Second off, anything is possible through God. And, um, and yeah,

Sorry, that's an always sunny thing. But I love that and I really want to meet Daphne because I think cats are super funny and I grew up with one my whole life. And I thought that that cat was going to live freaking forever. I don't think I knew that you grew up with a cat. I had a cat and a dog. My cat's name was Skitskat. Oh my God. I do. What?

Sorry, I don't know if I should say this or not, but I got... You definitely should. And I just like Googled my name and it popped up and it says Paige Deboer cheated on Craigzer. And I was like, oh God, this is news to me. Jesus, Paige, what are you doing out there? I was like, it's a Chinese website.

And it's from when Taylor, the description says, Craig's co-star Taylor has accused Page of cheating on Craig from last year. But the headline comes up in the last 24 hours, you know, and I was like, oh, what is the story here? But anyway, that just caught, that was a little bit of a, what's it called when something pops up, a jump scare. All right. Well, why don't you say bye to our besties, Austin?

All right, besties. Well, once again, thanks for hanging out with us. Hope you're enjoying Craig and I being back because we are. And I don't know. We'll be back next week with all sorts of fun stuff to talk about. Until then, love you all and peace. Ah, the sizzle of McDonald's sausage. It's enough to make you crave your favorite breakfast.

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