This interview felt more like two friends and medical professionals sitting down to coffee than a podcast interview. We talked about our Wayfinder coaching program we're in, we chatted about our burnout stories (and Jillian turned the mic back on me to ask what my own pivots looked like) and we demonstrated a coaching tool on Jillian's thought that she didn't have enough money to sign up for a coaching program.

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Take-home points from the interview:

Burnout signs may include apathy, not caring as much about doing a good job or disordered eating, physical complaints like not sleeping or headaches or anxiety.
Grinding through/showing grit is a societal expectation. Burnout is your Essential Self begging you to rest and recover
In order to take time off, you'll come up against a lot of beliefs and thoughts about not being able to afford to take the time off. It's important to dissect these beliefs and see what's true and what's a thought error. Byron Katie has a method called "The Work" that helps you question your thoughts.
Identify your support systems at work and home. Is your job a "people first" type job, or is it all about churning out productivity?
Use therapists or coaches to help you see other options because when you're in the midst of burnout, your brain can't come up with any viable options to get you over the hump.
When to consider therapy: If you've had trauma or grief and haven't addressed it. Consider coaching if you're functioning but want to function better- we'll teach you the tools for forward momentum
Learning how to feel things in your body is huge because it allows you to identify which thoughts are helpful and which thoughts are causing pain
Often our stories about ourselves aren't embedded in reality. We feel shame based on false beliefs. Like, "I'll be fired/perceived as weak" if I admit I'm burned out.

Kevin MD article: Recovering from Burnout, a permission to pivot

Books mentioned: The Way of Integrity and Finding your Own North Star (both by Martha Beck)

Byron Katie "The Work" (these are the questions we refer to in the session)

Dr. Jillian Rigert's website

First episode with Dr. Jillian Rigert

#104: Part 2 with Dr. Jillian Rigert gets even deeper into burnout, with both of us sharing our stories. We also do an impromptu coaching session over the common thought "I don't have enough money" 57:42 Share

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#104: Part 2 with Dr. Jillian Rigert gets even deeper into burnout, with both of us sharing our stories. We also do an impromptu coaching session over the common thought "I don't have enough money"