NFL Week 5, Fastest 2 Minutes, Recapping A Wild Sunday, Deshaun Needs To Benched Plus Playoff Baseball
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Some spread. We start in Cincinnati where Lamarie Miss Jackson, as the outcast big boy Derrick Henry get up and got out of overtime with a bunch 52-yard run to make the Bengals one and full real. Zay bouquet of flowers show the world that the Bengals defense smells like poo, poo, poo, like poo, poo, poo, after the Ravens put up 41 large ones.

Joe Burrow versus Wade had a nice run, but then was overturned once by the Baltimore defense, and that was all it took. The Ravens 41, the Bengals 38. In H-Town, Nico Tom Collins was shaken up after a big touchdown, adding some extra sour lemon juice to the Texans' offense upon his exit. Webcam acres exposed the Bills' D as only fans of the Texans got aroused.

The Bills turned the lights back on with their offense when Neon Coleman scored a big touchdown cutting the lead to three. But it was too little, too late. Though Sean McDermott had to take his hat off to the leadership shown by C.J. Stroudy Arabia and his attack against New York's team. The Texans, 23. The Bills, 20.

In Chicago, where Caleb Williams hit DJ Mandy Moore on a walk to remember to start the scoring as the Panthers took a page out of their owner's book, burning down the house with business decisions. Andy Dalton went into his old roadhouse and learned that no one ever wins a fight, especially when the team you're fighting took all your draft picks and good players. Bryce, you're the man.

Forever young. Made an appearance in mop-up duty still looking like a little kid sitting in a sand pit. Panthers are a depressing drip. Forever young. Bears 36. Panthers 10. And now we head on overseas for our foreign correspondent memes in London.

Source, trust me, bro. Quincey Williams Shakespeare wanted some accountability after the game.

To ayahuasca or to not ayahuasca? That is the question. Happy Stefan Gilmore said the price is wrong, bitch, after sealing the win for the Vikings. Vikings 23, Jets 17. Ah, and now, thank you, memes, from London, we go to Foxborough where Henry Lockwood's on the scene.

Over to Gillette Stadium for the AFC East Poop Bowl. Ramondre 3000 Stevenson told the Dolphins D they weren't as fresh as him as he broke a fresh and clean, clean 33-yard scamper for a first-quarter TD.

Jason Bernie Sanders added three field goals and taxed the Patriots' Rich D so bad they wished they invested their money in gold. Alex, that is, who scored a go-ahead touchdown in the fourth quarter. Jalen James Polk answered with what looked like a go-ahead TD of his own, but the refs say he annexed his feet out of the end zone. Dolphins win 15-10. And if the season ended today...

the mighty New England Patriots would be on the clock. Whoa! Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. Over to Denver, where the only Colorado football game this weekend had Celine Dion Sanders left singing, My heart will bow on, as SEAL Team Knicks sank the Raiders' hope of the ship.

Gardner, it's raining Minshew, danced around. But it looks like a green new deal as AOC, Alex O'Connell, took over and had a couple really nice cannons. The Broncos were wearing their throwback blue helmets as Sean Spaten made sure their team from the infertile desert won't be having any playoff berths. The Broncos, 34. A-r-r-r-r-r.

Raiders 18. Out west in Seattle where Rashawn Leroy Jenkins said, fuck this shit and returned a fumble 100 yards to start the scoring. Darius got Slaytanic on the Seahawks defense going for 122 and a score. But after Michael Jackson, Smith, and Jigba moonwalked to the end zone late, the game got tight.

The Seahawks lined up for a game-tying field goal only to have the kick blocked by the law offices of Bryce Ford and Wheaton as Isaiah Ben Simmons is different this year after his summer workouts returned it for a touchdown in the win. Giants 29, Seahawks 20. Oh, and we have playoff baseball with Max.

It was looking like another rough night for the fans in Philadelphia as Shark Viento said, smile you son of a bitch as he launched a bullet into the seats to take an early lead. However, for the first time in forever, Ice Harper hit a frozen rope to deep center to get the Phillies back in it. But then just like that, Brandon Limo gave a ball a ride as he escorted the Mets to a 4-3 lead.

But thankfully, the great Stott cleared the bases while reaching 80... Oh, fuck. My phone just died. My phone just died. Oh, no. Oh, no. Boom. Boom. Get out of your phone, guy. Boom. Boom. Unacceptable. Reaching 88 miles an hour. And then... And then... And then... And then... And then... And then... And then there was a deep line drive to the left field and...

Nick Cassiano's won the game. And I don't know if Max will be putting on this headset again after this showing. That was a first in fastest two minutes. Standing on the corner, Jameis Winston, Cuyahoga, such a fine sight to see. It's the Browns, they suck another left hand up. The commander's asking, who are we? Deshaun's no runner. He's such a bummer.

How can anyone root for such a pervert comer?

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okay week five in the books while we wait for a stupid ass lightning delay we'll talk steelers cowboys sometime at the end yeah i i was just saying when was the last time somebody got hit by lightning just get out there suit up and play like when america was great and then big cat just told me that martha stewart has been hit by lightning five times four times i believe martha stewart lightning uh

Four times, I believe. Martha Stewart still. Still looking right, by the way, boys. After the third time you get hit by lightning, you got to stop going outdoors. Lightning. Martha Stewart three times. Sorry, three times. It's still three different times she's been hit by lightning.

That's crazy. That is what also the guy that was playing Jesus during Passion of the Cross. I think he got hit by lightning. He did during the filming. Yeah, dude, getting hit by lightning. Would you tell if you got hit by lightning and survived, you would just tell everyone like the first moment.

You met him. Oh, yeah. Anytime there was like a cloud in the sky, like, oh, that reminds me of the time I got hit by lightning. Yeah. And I beat lightning. Yeah. I beat lightning. Mono e mono. I would have a lightning tattoo that was visible. Yep. I would probably become a Chargers fan. Yep. Or Harry Potter. Yeah. One or the other. I never read Harry Potter or watched the movies, but I think that's what happened. Did you get hit by lightning?

He got hit by a curse. Oh, a curse. Same thing. And it left a lightning bolt scar on his head. Got it. Okay. Good. He survived, though. He did. The boy who lived. Well, I would assume he survived because you had to write the books. It was a death spell. Right. Like, if he didn't survive, the book would have been one page. Yeah. So. All right. Week five. In the books, except for that game, which we will get to. It's pretty short to get hit by lightning.

Yeah. Was he, was he, he was a baby. I always thought it was a baby. What was his mom doing? Just hold them up to the lightning. She died. No, she got hit. Oh, she got hit by lightning and he got hit by lightning by the spell. Oh yeah. Right. That's right. He actually hit by lightning. We already lost the plot two seconds into you explaining it. That's how quickly you're way more likely to get hit by lightning than I am. Big cat. Yeah, that's true. Statistically. Also more likely for like, you know, a promotion, uh,

Yeah. To be swiped right. Was it swiped right? Yeah. Swiped right. To dunk a basketball. To dunk for people to respect me. A lot of those things. I don't know about the respect part is still that's up in the air. I think that's a height thing for sure. Did you guys think that you could get hit by lightning if you showered during a lightning storm? No. I did. I always just thought I was safe in the car because the rubber grounds you. That's why Hank doesn't shower.

Yeah, that's a fact. And he's never been hit by lightning. This is our preamble. Lightning delay. That was our lightning delay to talk about week five. Let's get into some football. That was an awesome, awesome Sunday. It was a great weekend of football. We'll talk college football on Wednesday, but...

The whole weekend was like, man, I love football. I feel like this was one of those weekends where it's like, what do people do when they don't watch football? And then you step outside and you're like, oh yeah, it's actually also a really nice weekend outdoors. It was a beautiful weekend. I think that as good of a weekend as it was outside for non-football fans...

I think it was as good for football fans. Yeah, zero regrets watching all the football this weekend because it delivered time and time again. We had an incredible witching hour. We had some shootouts. We had some big... I mean, the early slate was really where it was at. And we only had six games because we had the London game to start everything off at 8.30 in the morning. The Vikings 23, Jets 17.

God damn, does a London game always suck. When do we have a really great London game? I think there was a tie. I want to say maybe the Redskins tied the Bengals at some point. It really is. The London game always just proves that whenever they give us football, we'll watch it no matter what.

like the quality of it because this game was, it, it started with, uh, well, both defenses played well. Both quarterbacks didn't play well. Uh, Aaron Rogers threw three picks. He looks old as fuck. He looks angry as fuck. Uh,

They still almost came back and won the game if it weren't for his third pick. And I feel like so I walked in here on Sunday mornings. I usually bring my kids to the office so they can run around the gym and everything. So I walked in here at like 9 a.m. And I had my two oldest and memes are sitting by himself in the gambling cave screaming at the TV. They were having they were laughing their butts off.

Listening to memes go crazy. Memes kept apologizing. I was like, dude, you don't think this happens at my house? And they were giggling. They're like, who is that? Who is that guy? Yeah, it was a tough game for Jets fans because in the first half, it looked like it was going to be another Vikings blowout. Yeah. And I guess we got the question answered, like, can the Vikings win a close game?

Well, and can the Vikings win without Sam Darnold being awesome? He had his worst game of the season by far today. I think he completed like 50% of his passes. Yeah, he didn't look good, and he also got banged up. But the Vikings' defense is for real, for real, for real. And that's the difference because they didn't play a perfect game, and they still won. They're definitely engineered to play with a lead because their defensive line will get after you. It'll be interesting to see if they play a game where they have to come from behind, how their defense holds up then.

But here's an interesting stat that I read about Aaron Rodgers today. And the Jets. Did you know that he has as many three interception games with the Jets as Zach Wilson had in his 11 starts last season? Wow. That's kind of interesting, isn't it? Wait, is this his second one? This is his third. His third one? Let's see. Maybe second? Yeah. Is it second or third? Third.

Anyways, it's tied with Zach Wilson. Yeah, he is. I mean, he's not an interception thrower. So this is he looks bad. He looks old. He looks angry. Memes, from your point of view, it feels bad right now, doesn't it? The offense feels bad. Everything feels bad.

Yeah. Yeah, it feels really bad. And then we had Quincy Williams afterwards in the locker room said, people got to start taking accountability. So that's where we're at with the Jets season. People have to start taking accountability. What does that look like? I think it's probably Robert Salah saying, I'm in over my head, guys. Nathaniel Hackett saying, hey, I know that you keep giving me a dummy headset. Just keep doing that. Rogers maybe saying, hey, I'm going to try to be a nicer person.

And, yeah, that's probably it. And Hasan Reddick coming to the team. Hasan Reddick coming to the team. Hasan Reddick needs to take accountability. And Joe Douglas being like, hey, you know what? I'm going to take accountability. I am going to trade for Devontae Adams because it won't solve everything, but it does feel like their offense doesn't have – their offense isn't inspiring. Let's say that. So for me, it might be –

Everybody on the Jets front office, all the Jets brass, as Adam Schefter put it. Correct. The full brass saying, I don't know if it was a great idea to mortgage our entire franchise for a shadow GM that's going to come in here when he's done taking drugs and then try to run the team. Correct. And also he's 40 years old. Yes, he's 40 years old and he's starting to look 40 years old. I know he's been dealing with a knee issue. I think he turned his ankle. Tottenham turf sucks. Yeah.

But Aaron Rodgers, like the Jets are obviously we have the Browns who will get to. But the Jets are the second team in my advanced analytics. Bad vibes team. Yeah, they're a bummer. They are. They've been a bummer. And as bad as they are, they might be. I think they might be the second best two and three team in the league. Yeah, no, they're still. I still think they're going to probably go to the playoffs because Aaron Rodgers is still too good, even though he is. He's not peak Aaron Rodgers. He hasn't been for a while.

But you thought you wouldn't get three interception Aaron Rodgers. There was a moment in the game where it felt like they were just showing. It was like Robert Salah, then Rodgers, I think Hackett maybe for a second, a Jets fan, and everyone had a big frown on their face and looked like they were having a horrendous time. Yeah, Robert Salah does not look happy on the sidelines at all. It's not that he's mad. I would actually like it better if he got mad.

But he never really turns the corner to that emotion. He's just always got this look on his face like, I can't believe I have to fucking deal with this shit. Yeah. And it's tough to watch. But I think that if the Jets can beat the Bills, Monday Night Football next week. Ooh, that's a good game. Big game. I'm going to say it's a can't lose game for the Jets. I think it's a can't lose game for both. Because they got two teams in the division that are obviously not good.

Correct. Right now, as they stand, who knows what's going to happen when Tua gets back. But right now the dolphins and the Patriots are not good. The jets and the bills aren't great, but you could convince me that either one of those two could win the division. Yes. And here's a positive for you memes before we talk a little more about the Vikings. Uh,

Aaron Rodgers doesn't hate Garrett Wilson as much as we thought because it felt like he was force-feeding him. It felt like he saw everyone say, hey, does Aaron Rodgers hate Garrett Wilson? He's like, no, I don't. Here's how much I don't, and I'm going to throw him the ball a bunch. So that's good. Memes? That is positive, and I found out today they call three plays at a time for Aaron Rodgers. Oh, okay.

Is that why he was doing that clip is not did not look good when he was just motioning to the sideline to get the play in faster. It was that one in him crawling on the ground that were just again, bad vibes for the Jets overall. They're a bad vibes team. Yeah. I mean, he did battle back from what I think everybody thought was like a season ending leg injury.

Yes. When he got hit, his foot got pinned underneath the guy, and then he was out for a little bit. It looked awful, about as bad as it can look for Jets fans, but then he came right back in. So, Memes, his knee is okay? Yeah.

His knee is okay. His knee is okay. His knee is okay. The crazy thing is, memes, as bad as today was and last week, so it's like a culmination of these two games, if you look at the AFC, the AFC is kind of bad in general outside of a couple teams at the top because with the Bengals being one and four, we'll talk about next, it's just like the Jets are right now in the eighth spot.

And ahead of them are the Chargers, the Ravens, who are very good, the Broncos, the Bills, and the Steelers, who, like, you could make an argument that the Chargers, Broncos, Bills, Steelers...

There's a chance one of, if not a couple of those teams don't make it and the Jets have a spot to... They'll be fine, I think. If I had to go gun to my head, I think the Jets are still a playoff team, but it's just bad vibes. Yeah, I'm looking through the records right now. Here are the other two and three teams, if we're doing two and three power rankings. Oh, okay. We got the Dolphins. They're two and three. Yeah, bad. The Raiders are two and three. Bad, bad.

We've got the Colts are 2-3. Bad if they go back to Anthony Richardson. And then we go to the NFC. We got the Giants at 2-3. Surprisingly...

Feisty. Feisty. Feisty. We got the Cardinals and the Niners. Also feisty. Niners good, but bad record. Yep. And then, yeah, that's it. That's all we got. So you're going to be okay, memes. You just got to figure out a way. Hank's just kind of smiling here, Hank, because, I mean, your team is bad, but you've got to love the fact that memes, they're all in.

Yeah, I feel bad. I want the best for memes and the Jets. It's unfortunate that in such a down year for the AFC, they're still losing to these bad teams. Well, I guess not the Vikings. Yeah, the Vikings are a good team. I feel like the Tom Brady experiment in Tampa Bay really threw off the –

idea of how good it is to try to get a 40-year-old quarterback at the end of their and turn the entire franchise into like their little science project yeah because tom brady obviously worked very well for the tampa bay bucks um aaron rogers it seems like he's not moving around as well right now he also would have got davante adams no question who brady yeah like if brady wanted him yeah so is rogers what i'm saying like brady has rogers lost his fastball being able to get a player

That's a good question. I think so. That's actually a good take. Yeah, that's a great take, Hank. Or do you want to take no for an answer? Yeah, so memes, looking at the schedule, you have the Bills and then at the Steelers, and then you play the Patriots again. So you have to go 2-1 here probably. I think we have a good chance to go 2-0. No, no, that was three games I gave you.

We have a good chance of going 3-0. Oh, 3-0. I thought you said 2-0. 3-0. Okay. So you're fine. You're not even freaking out. We should be 4-1. Listen. Going into... Which one should you have won? The Broncos. Well, I don't know about this game.

Yeah, Sam Darnold wasn't good. I guess that would be the thing is like you played a game where Sam Darnold has been on fire the first four games of the season. The Vikings, we said this stat on Friday, they only have been trailing for two minutes and 36 seconds or something this season. The Vikings are really, really good. And you got a poor performance from Sam Darnold that you weren't able to capitalize because...

The Vikings' defense is very, very good, and they made Aaron Rodgers look old and slow and bad in the pick six and the interception to seal the game. The Vikings, I think, are like they're the most –

Besides the Chiefs, they're probably the team I believe in the most as of right now. Yeah, they look very good. Again, I want to see them play if they have to come from behind. I want to see what their defense does in a situation like that because they definitely are engineered to rush the pass or when they have a lead. And

And it's interesting because Sam Darnold didn't have his best game and Aaron Jones got hurt today. Yeah, that's a bummer. And they still were okay. Now, the bye week probably a good time for the Vikings. Yeah, great time. It's always a good time. Not as good as the Rams, but almost. Yeah, if you're undefeated, the bye week is usually a good time. Yeah, it's got to feel... We just got to regroup. That's got to feel awesome having a bye week undefeated. Yeah. But I was most impressed by the Vikings being like...

We knew we were excited for Sam Donald to play as good as he did the first four weeks of the season. We knew that there was probably going to be a game where he was –

you know, not great Sam Darnold. And can the Vikings survive that? And the answer is yes. And now you hope that great Sam Darnold comes back because he got that one out of his system. Yep, he might. Here's another interesting stat about Aaron Rodgers here. Did you know that he's 1-47 in games where he trails in the fourth quarter against a team that's above 500? Whoa. That's pretty crazy, isn't it? That is pretty crazy. 1-47 is a wild stat. It was the one win. I think it was two years ago.

I think it was last season at Green Bay. Okay. But I forget who it was against. Okay.

Yeah, because I was going to say the one that he got, he came back against the Bears 2018. That was opening night. No, I think it was... I was just expecting that to be like the one win was against the Bears. Because I remember seeing that stat, which looked a lot cooler when it said that it was 0 and whatever, like 0 and 35. Yeah. And then he gave up. He got one back. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, shout out Harrison Smith still out there doing it. Yeah. And all over the place. I mean, you don't...

Guys don't play the Lillard on defense. I feel like 35-year-olds. That's not normal. I think it's his long arm sleeves that he wears. Yeah. The ones that go up to the elbows. He looks fast as shit. It completely, yeah. It makes him look fast and also protects him. Yep. Yeah. All right. So Vikings 5-0.

Best team in football going into the bye week. You can't make an argument otherwise. Yeah, I mean, the Chiefs are the only other argument, and the Chiefs have not played yet. So the Chiefs could lose to the Saints, and then we would look like the smartest people in the world. I think the Vikings are very, very much for real. I believe in Sam Darnold. Yeah. Okay, next up. Ravens 41, Bengals 38. This game was awesome. Great game. Absolute shootout.

Probably one of the coolest plays in the Ravens coming back and Lamar Jackson, when he fumbled the snap, then stiff-armed Sam Hubbard. Twice. Twice. Scrambled around and found Isaiah likely in the end zone. I think they were down 10 at the time. This game had everything. It was like Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow were just both playing perfect football and it was back and forth.

And the Bengals are now one in four in a game that they absolutely should have won. Because here's the problem for the Bengals. Joe Burrow was phenomenal. And he made one mistake yesterday.

And he has to play perfect for them to win because that one mistake basically cost them. It was a great game. And Jamar Chase was incredible, unguardable tonight. Yeah. And yeah, it's tough for the Bengals. Joe said after the game, we're not a championship team. Yeah, I agree with that, Joe. Yeah, he was 392 yards, 76.9% completion, five touchdowns, and then the one interception.

is what killed him. And for a second there, I looked smart and Hank looked dumb. Now I look dumb again because the Bengals lost. But I did look smart

You were right. It went from 22-1 to 10-1 because he was playing so out of his mind. And I do think the Bengals, with how bad their defense is, Joe Burrow has to play perfect, and he knows going into every game he has to play perfect, and he was playing perfect. And then that happened. The one thing I don't understand, Zach Taylor, and so the Bengals obviously had a bad snap on the missed field goal in overtime, the Evan McPherson missed field goal.

That should actually not count as a missed field goal. I don't know if they can do a stat. It was crazy that he was able to kick that in relatively the right direction. The ball got put down about a tenth of a second before the foot hit it. My only qualm with Zach Taylor's coaching today was they get the Ravens fumble because Lamar Jackson doesn't see the snap coming in overtime.

The Bengals get the ball back. They're basically immediately in field goal range. He calls three runs. Now, I know that the missed snap and hold would have... You can't be like, oh, well, if they were closer. Because if it was a missed snap and hold, even if it was a 20-yard field goal, they'd probably miss it because it was that bad. But I don't know why...

When you've had the type of game that Joe Burrows played and he is your... You basically have to put the whole team on Joe Burrows' back. Why in that moment you wouldn't just continue to put the team on Joe Burrows' back? I agree. It was strange that he got very conservative with that because you do want to get closer. You want to make it an easier field goal attempt if you can. Or, I mean, the way that Joe and Jamar were working, it...

was not unlikely that they could score a touchdown. Right. Just be aggressive. Let Joe Burrow win the game for you because he's been that good. And again, you have to go into every game, and it's not fair to Joe Burrow, but he has to play perfect because their defense is an absolute mess and was getting carved up.

And it looked like the Bengals game plan was, hey, we're going to try to stop the run. Lamar Jackson was like, okay, fine. I'll just throw the ball all over the place and hit everyone. He looks so good as a passer. Incredible. Incredible. That Isaiah likely play was like play of the year so far. It was like, I think he dribbled the ball off the ground a little bit. I think he dribbled the ball, picked it up.

Two stiff arms scrambled across his body to likely just floated in there perfectly. It was a sexual play. Yeah. It was a very sexual play. And then Derrick Henry ran the 52-yarder in overtime to seal the game. He's getting stronger. He's getting stronger. He was kind of bottled up until that moment. But it was just an awesome game. And now the Bengals, I don't know. So I was looking at their schedule. I think they have four games coming up until they play the Ravens again.

I think they don't have any margin for error anymore. They have to win their games. They play the Giants and the Browns, which they should win, and then the Eagles and Raiders. So I think they have to go 4-4. That would get them to 5-4 going up against the Ravens. So this is a problem with 1-4. We keep saying, oh, okay, they'll be okay. They'll probably be a playoff team.

They can't have another, like, whoops, we slipped up and lost the game like they lost today, where they were up 10 with five minutes left. This is true life help. I am addicted to believing in the Bengals. I still believe, too. But you see what I'm saying? Like, if they have one or two more of these slip ups where they're

whether it be a week one game where they lost to a Patriots team that the Patriots might, that might be their only win of the year. Yeah. Or this game where they're up 10 with five and a half minutes left and they just like a comedy of errors to, to blow this game. If you do that any other time, your season could be over. Yep. And now Lamar is as a starter, uh,

He is 9-1 against the Bengals. Yeah, Jamar Chase torches the Bengals. Torches the Bengals. Sorry, you were saying Lamar is against the Bengals. But I was going to say Jamar Chase also torches the Bengals. I saw those stats. He goes like 200 every time. But Lamar, sorry, I say Bengals. Yeah, Bengals.

Jamar Chase. Jamar Chase torches the Ravens. Lamar Jackson torches the Bengals. Now, how about this? All right, I got it. For the Ravens. I got it. For the Ravens. My brain just stopped for a second. We've got an Instagram update via the Devante Adams situation. Okay. I think this is on Friday. Yes. He posted a picture of Edgar Allen Poe. We all know who he looks like. The famous author who moved to New York City at the end of his life. Did he? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah.

Wow. No, I just remember that he died on the streets and nobody knows how he did. No, from Baltimore. Yeah, from Baltimore. But wait, the team is named after him, but he didn't actually move to New York. I think he did at the end of his life. A lot like Aaron Rodgers. A lot like Aaron Rodgers. So a drug addict who moved to New York City. I saw Jets fans trying to use that. Our friend Tom Lay was like...

Edgar Allen Poe at the end of his life moved to New York City. I did not know that. He wrote The Raven. He wrote The Telltale Heart. Tom Lee might have also not fact-checked that. My fact-checking is just reading Tom Lee's tweet. And it was probably some guy online that he saw that said he moved to New York. I'm going to look it up right now. Because I thought that he died on the streets of Baltimore. Did I make that up? Maybe. He overdosed on ether or some bullshit like that. That's badass. Yeah, it is kind of a cool way to go. All right, later life. I'm going to look. Either way, does that feel like...

He was forced to move between several cities, including Baltimore, Philadelphia, and New York City. In 1836, when he was 27, he married his cousin. God damn it. These guys always just marry their cousins. It was real big back then. Yeah. Fucking Einstein did that shit. I guess you didn't meet as many people. I don't... Yeah. Communities didn't move that much, so it's like chances are you're going to be...

Was that the version of, like, your office wife? Is it, like, your family wife? Yeah, it's my family wife. It's, like, this is all the people I know, so I'm just going to start dating my cousin. This is my Thanksgiving wife. We always really get close during the holiday season. So, yeah. Yeah, he moved to the Bronx. So, yeah, maybe that's...

So who knows what part of Edgar Allen Poe's life that Devontae Adams was referring to. Yeah, his final home was in the Bronx, New York. If he does go to the Ravens, though, I feel like that's bad news for the AFC.

Yeah. That's bad news for the AFC. Good news for the Ravens. Very good news for the Ravens. Good news for Stavi. The Ravens are really, really good. And their defense did get gashed today, but here we go. Full circle. Jamar Chase does own the Ravens. That's true. You've always said that. I've always said that. Not the Bengals. He definitely doesn't own the Bengals because he can't get... Paul Brown would not sell any of them. Yeah, he can't get any money out of them. I'm going to look up Jamar Chase versus the Ravens. This game rocked, though. That was so much fun. Jamar Chase versus the Ravens.

He owns the Ravens in the last couple times. Oh, no, he had 193, and that was today, 193 and two touchdowns. He had a game where he had 201 and a touchdown. That's owning him a little bit, 125. The Bengals' defense is a big, big issue, though. Oh, it's so bad. It's so bad. They should just do, you know what they should do? The old coach's trick of, you know what, we don't have any more starters.

Every position up for grabs. When you just say that, it sounds like you're trying something. Bring in the Cincinnati basketball team.

Who are they? I just like, they're usually, Oh, this university. Yeah. The university of Cincinnati basketball team. Bring them in for open tryouts. They're always tough as fuck. Yeah. They always say they can't shoot and they rebound. Yeah. That's you got a football team. Yeah. Just bring them in and just do that. That's the, that's the old, uh, you know, college coach would be like open tryouts. We want the basketball team to come in and try to play some football or other way around. Get Mick Cronin back there for just a little bit to coach your defense. Yeah. Give me some effort. They're there. They are bad. They're bad. And the Ravens are good. Um,

Anything else? Yeah, my brain broke for a second there. I apologize to everyone. Got hit by lightning. Yeah, I got hit by lightning. I still can't get over that hold and that snap. Yeah, so every time I see something like that happen in a game, I think about the position of being the holder.

To me, that seems like it's one of the hardest things to do, but they're really, really good at it at a high level. So you don't really hear about fucked up snaps and holds that much. And when you do, it's a massive thing like Tony Romo. But it feels like getting that snap and putting it down within like a quarter of a second and spinning the ball is a lot harder than we think that it is. Yeah.

It takes... No, actually, you know what? I'm sounding like a loser right now. I could do that job. I'm built different. I could do that job. It's the easiest thing. You catch the ball, you put it down. How hard is that? It was funny. In the gambling cave, people had the Bengals, and there was some blame going around for the holder wearing a wedding ring.

Yeah, I'll listen to that. We're like, why the fuck does he have a wedding ring on? That had to have affected it. You want eligible bachelors as your holder. Yeah. I also kind of like my holders wearing receiving gloves. Yeah. I don't mind that. Not a wedding ring. Yeah, not a wedding ring. Since Winter Punter's married. I don't know. If you're a Bengals fan, it has to feel so weird to...

having such an explosive offense and a team that has been in this hole before. So you have to tell yourself it's going to be okay, even though,

It might not be okay this year. So if you're a Bengals fan, I'll give you a couple silver linings in all this. One, you'd much rather have an explosive offense and a terrible defense than have a terrible offense and a great defense. Correct. It's way more fun to watch. Two, you're probably an Ohio State fan, so that's fun. You get to have a good Saturday. Big game against Oregon. Have a great Saturday. And then three, you're not the Browns. You could be a Browns fan. Yeah, that's true. And four, Kentucky basketball is back, maybe.

Yeah, these are all big things. You have to look at all the nice things that go along with Cincinnati. You got Coach Cal fired. It is bad, though, for the Bengals. This game specifically, losing this to the Ravens, because you obviously, the way the NFL schedule goes, you play another division, and you play the first-place schedule, the last-place schedule. The Ravens beat the Bills.

And the Bengals lost to the Patriots. That's a tough swing for their AFC East opponents. Yeah, it's not good. Yeah. So that's where it's like, God damn, you can't have those. I don't think the Bengals are going to make the playoffs, but I do think that they'll be sniffing around. They'll be in that graphic. I'll say it. They're going to make the playoffs. Fuck it. I might try to bet it on DraftKings. Make the playoffs. Let's look it up real quick.

Let's figure it out. I mean, if you do it, I have to do it because I am addicted to still thinking. Yeah. They'll figure something out on defense. You know what? Why don't we just... Why don't we bet them to win the Super Bowl? Soupy? You're thinking soupy? What are the odds? So quick of they're dead. Probably pretty tasty. To now... Fuck it. We're value hunters. They're 30 to 1. This is like buying penny stocks. They're 30 to 1. Why not? This is...

Yeah. I might have to do it. I might have to say, fuck it. We're going to believe in the Bengals. What are their next games here? They're playing the Giants and the Browns. So they should win both. They should win both those. Although the Giants are feisty. Now, do you think the bookmakers are smart enough to also know what their future schedule is? I think they probably took a look at it. Yeah, they probably took a look at it. Okay. Let's go to the next game. Texans 23, Bills 28.

another great witching hour game. It was all Texans to start. Then Nico Collins got hurt, and their offense basically lost all of its explosiveness. They scored 14 points in the first quarter, nine points in the last three. Josh Allen was bad. It was probably his worst game he's had in a long time. I think it might have been his worst game ever. Rookie year, he had a couple that were real bad, but he was, yeah, like it was,

He completed nine passes, I think. Yeah, nine for 30. Nine for 30. And their offense... That has to be his worst completion percentage of all time. It's hard to get worse than that. It is hard to get worse than that, but I remember his rookie season was a lot of, this guy is really bad. People were shitting on him. He was bad, though. And it's now a two-game stretch of being bad that...

Has the bills questioning. Did they make a mistake? Was it really addition by subtraction, getting rid of Stefan digs? Because it feels like the bills don't have any, especially with Shakir hurt. The bills don't have anyone who is getting open routinely. And Josh is not finding any rhythm and he's, he's been missing guys as well. And their offense just,

When they've stepped up in class because their first three games weren't against the best opponents. They've stepped up, played the Ravens, played the Texans, two of the best AFC teams and did not look good. Yeah, I think I've found maybe a problem with CJ Stroud. Okay. I think he hits his guys on explosive long touchdowns so frequently that he injures them. Yeah.

Because they're burning guys with their deep speed. They're making these catches. They're sprinting in the end zone, trying to get away from the last cornerback. And then they get an injury like a hamstring. Yeah. So, CJ, maybe stop being so good. Yeah, you're too good. You got to check down more often, CJ. You're too good. Josh Allen did have a 6-for-15 game his rookie year, and then he also had an 8-completion game his rookie year.

But either way, really bad game from Josh Allen. Maybe the Bills got to get back to letting Josh do design runs. There was. Ground and pound. They did have one. Two tight end sets. They did have one. Well, that's the other thing is Dalton Kincaid. We have two tight ends that we've heard so much about in the NFL. Kyle Pitts and Dalton Kincaid.

I feel like I'm just waiting for them to do some cool shit. Yeah, just go heavy. Go heavy sets if you're the Bills. They can run the ball. James Cook is awesome, but their offense looked so bad today outside of Keon Coleman's huge broken play kind of touchdown. And the only thing that kept them in the game was the Texans just kept on trying to give them the game. There was a pick. There was a fourth and one that they didn't convert.

And then you get to the end of the game where people are going to go after Sean McDermott for his play calling. So it was... I don't really know. I'm still thinking about it, and I don't know if I totally disagree. You're talking about when they got the ball back pinned deep. They got the ball back with 40 seconds left, tie game on the four-yard line, and the Texans had all three timeouts. Yep. So...

Under normal circumstances, you'd say, yeah, run the ball, go to overtime. The problem is, if you run the ball, the Texans are going to use all three of their timeouts, and if you're not running it, trying to get a first down, you're just trying to run out the clock, they're going to have a chance to kick a field goal, which they ended up doing. Sean McDermott decided to pass the ball three times, which I don't hate the idea, but give

given how their passing game was working it felt like it was a losing proposition yeah so if if they had tried to to run the ball three times you burn your three timeouts they punt they probably the texans get the ball back with what like 25 seconds left yeah enough certainly enough time to make a few yards around midfield probably yep and then that's definitely enough time to make a few yards and kick that same field goal that they ended up kicking yes so yeah i at the time i wasn't

I guess I was a little confused when they ran it on first and second down. But then I started thinking about it. You mean past. Oh, yeah, we passed. But then I'm like, yeah, this is no-win situation. And McDermott took blame for it afterwards. He's like, yeah, that was my call. Kind of a shitty position I was in. But I'll take responsibility for that. Well, yeah, you should take responsibility because you're the coach. But I don't think it was like a big colossal fuck-up. I thought it was a fuck-up just because I thought they were going to get safetied. Just go play action.

They think you're going to run it. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I guess running it and then making them burn all three of their timeouts. But the other problem is, Kymie Fairbairn is incredible. He now has eight 50-plus yard field goals, and it's been five weeks. He has...

eight 50 plus yard field goals and it's been five weeks that's the most ever through five weeks it also there's only four kickers last year in the entire season who had eight 50 plus yard field goals

It's crazy. It was a 59 yarder to win the game. And it cleared it by, it looked like it was close to 10 yards. It landed. I think it hit the net. Yeah. I think maybe even a fan might've caught it. Yeah. It was incredible. So you're like, yeah, you're, you're kind of stuck there. I think I'd probably lean running the ball and trying to let, make them burn their timeouts. And maybe you can break one with James cook because again, it's,

It's not as much like the idea of passing to try to be aggressive and get a first down so you can go to overtime, I get. But the way the Bills' offense looked passing the ball was so bad that you have to think that you have a better chance of getting a first down running the ball in that situation than passing. And good news for the Texans, you didn't commit a single penalty, I think, in the first half after we had Laramie Tunsell on watch for the most holding penalties ever. I don't think he had a holding penalty today. Okay.

I don't know either. I tried to bet on it. You can't bet on penalties, but I figured he'd have a penalty, but maybe he didn't. What are you going to say, Max? Nothing. You're just leaning towards the microphone. I thought you were going to say something. Here's the crazy thing about the Texans. I don't think the Texans have played their best game, and they're 4-1, and look, for real. For real, for real. Today was a perfect example. First quarter, lights out.

Like, holy shit, this is going to be the Texans' day. They're going to dominate them. Nico Collins gets hurt. Their offense kind of sputters. It doesn't feel like they put together a full four quarters yet, and they're 4-1, and it feels like they can just keep going up and up from here. Yeah, this is a big step, too, I think, for C.J. Stroud.

The Bills, I don't think, are a bad team at all. I think that they've got some question marks, but being able to hold them off in the fourth quarter as they mounted a comeback, I think those wins and the win that he had against a not-so-great team, the Jaguars, he's not just blowing teams out. He's doing it in weird ways where he has to kind of engineer victories. Yes, yes. So...

Yeah, I'm high on the Texans. And I guess if you're a Bills fan, I think the best thing you can do is say, well, we just played the Ravens and the Texans, who are two of the top three teams in the AFC. So maybe we're not one of the top teams in the AFC, but you also have to put perspective that they're still a playoff team. Right. So next week, when it's going to be Bills and Jets, it's too easy to say loser leaves town.

But it's like loser... Loser feels really bad leaving town. Loser, go get your passport. Where's the game? Where's the game, memes? MetLife. MetLife, whose line is it anyway? Brought to you by DraftKings. Hey, pull it up. I'm going to say it is Bills minus two and a half. Memes, can you pull it up? My phone's dead. Your phone's dead? Yeah. How's your phone dead? How's your phone dead? I don't know. It just died. It's Sunday. You got to always be on top of it. I've been here all day, yeah. What are you going to watch on there? That's something that's... You don't...

Can't have your phone die. I'm going to say Jets minus two. Who? PFT was right. Oh, Bills. What is it? Bills minus two and a half. Let's go. All right. So then. Over under. I got to take the Jets, I guess. The Jets are wearing their throwback jerseys. Are those good or bad? No. Fuck you, dude.

You know what ones I'm talking about. That was a real fuck you, dude. Oh, man, was that a real fuck you, dude. It is the Mark Sanchez, Chad Pennington, Vinny Testaverde ones. Oh, boy. A lot of good memories. I love those. Two AFC championship games. Yeah, exactly. Let me see them. They should have never changed. Let me see the throwback jerseys. They're shiny, right? Those are the shiny green ones. The Jets are... Yeah, look how shiny those jerseys are. You know, there are certain people that...

Like, if you close your eyes, you can't remember if they have, like, a mustache or if they wear glasses or something. Like, we were like, I think they have a mustache, but I'm not sure. That's kind of the Jets jerseys. Like, if you ask me to...

remember their throwbacks like i think i remember them it's weird because i because i think you and i are old enough to see these jerseys and then remember when they would wear their throwback yeah right which are way more similar to their jerseys now right well their their jerseys now are the throwbacks oh okay yeah see all right so that makes sense so they're wearing their so they're not wearing their throwbacks they're wearing their new jerseys this is this is throwback

This is their in-between throwbacks? In-between throwbacks. And we're currently wearing the throwbacks. What were you going to say, Max? These look like their current jerseys. That's what I'm saying. That's like when you close your eyes, you're like, wait, does that person have a mustache? Can't remember. That's the circle logo. I look at these, I'm like, oh yeah, those are the Jets jerseys. What are the current Jets jerseys?

Yeah, these are the most uninspiring throwbacks. What do you mean? Because I wouldn't know. If you had not said anything, I would have been like, those are just the Jets jerseys. See, it's like a... Is it the circle in the helmet? That's what it is? That's the current. But those are the throwbacks. The current are the throwbacks. The ones that they're wearing this year are their throwbacks to before they had their throwback jerseys. Right.

So next week they're not wearing throwbacks. They're wearing their new jerseys. It is a throwback. No, it's their new jerseys. They look like the same jerseys, just the lines on the sleeves are a little different. No, memes, you're not getting it. Their jerseys that they have right now are their throwback jerseys. The ones that they wore in the mid-2000s to late-2000s, those are their new jerseys. So they're going to be wearing their new jerseys in New Jersey. Yes.

These are their new jerseys that they're wearing on Monday, not their throwbacks, because they wear their throwbacks as their regular jerseys. I mean, they technically will be new jerseys. Yes, where MetLife is. Right.

This was also the best week of jerseys of the year. Oh. All around the league. Bengals, we didn't even talk about. The Bengals' pants today were awesome. Yeah, the Broncos. The Broncos should never wear anything else. That's, yeah. Yeah. I saw Bo Nix go out in pregame warm-ups, and I was like, he looks so much like John Elway that I think he's going to think that he is John Elway. Yeah. I saw him in warm-ups, and I was like, this guy, I'm going to have to wait a half, but then he's going to arrive. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I thought. Okay.

Okay, a timeless tradition lives on the classic. That's not the classic. You're wearing the classic. This is a classic. It's not. No. Did you just point that out just because it says the word classic on the graphic? You were like, look, it says classic. No, and feeling nostalgic. No, you don't feel nostalgic. I guess you feel nostalgic all the time. What was Joe Namath wearing? The ones they're wearing now, I think. When you look at that, the font that they have on classic is...

Like, that is a classic font, but when you compare it to the jersey, it doesn't match the jersey at all. The jersey's new and futuristic. Now, those are classics. Yeah, and that's their jerseys that they're wearing now. Oh, but that has a circle. I'm now confused. Kind of like a hybrid. Yeah, this fully confused me. Max, you raise your hand.

No, that was like a... What are we doing? I don't know. We're just doing the show. No, no, no. That would be like, what are the Jets doing? They just have the same jersey every time. It's just different iterations of the same jersey. Can you just show us? Can you Google the history of the Jets jerseys? Oh, yeah. Give me a timeline. Well, the most recent ones before now were trash. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those were trash. It was the worst. Oh, yeah. When they tried to do like the black...

And green ones that were super shiny helmets. Along with Adam Gase, and they lost every single fucking year. Unlike all the other Jets years? No, the classics. Good memories. Okay. All right. The Jets have just had the same jersey. Yeah. From 1965, that's the same jersey. It's the same uniform. Like, the only helmet that's... And the 1960 ones were the ugly ones I was talking about. Yeah.

The blue ones, right? Yeah. Yeah. All right. So throwback night. Throwback night. Is it? No. No.

It's classic. Are the Bills wearing their throwbacks? They should. That would be cool. They have some good throwbacks. I feel like they wear them every week now, though. These ones sucked. Yeah, those ones did suck. Those ones were bad. They were the only ones that were different. They tried to switch it up, and then they sucked. They sucked even harder, yeah. So then we need to go back to we got to run the football with just the same jersey. That's not even that big of a change, though. We're just going to make the shoulders look 20% sleeker.

This is good Jersey talk. All right, so Texans are really good and Bills might have some problems. Yep. All right. Next up, Commanders 34, Browns 13, PFT. Yeah, I said on Friday's show that if we won this game, I am going to say some reckless shit.

Then I saw that we're playing the Ravens. And I feel like that's my reckless shit game. Yeah. Like if we beat the Ravens, I will get so abnormally reckless with it that nobody will want to listen to the show ever again. I can say what I was going to say. Well, save it for the Ravens. Okay, I'll save it for the Ravens. Yeah, so you don't want to...

I think we should talk. Give us one thing. Don't say all of them because you want to save some of it. And you're not saying this. No, he's not. I'll leave out one word. Okay. I think that Jaden Daniels is the blank best quarterback in the NFL. There's a word. There's a word that's missing there. Blank best quarterback in the NFL? He is the blank best quarterback in the NFL. Unanimous. Eighth.

No, it's not 8th. That's why I'm not saying it, because it's not 8th. It's not 2nd. Undisputed. First? No, undisputed. Third? No. It's around... Fifth? I think it's third. Eighteenth. It's right in between what Big Cat and Max said. Fourth. Fourth.

Here's the thing with Jaden Daniels today. He finally didn't have like a – like his last three games were basically perfect football. He didn't have a perfect football game, but he still made just awesome big-time throws and third down he just completely befuddles defenses. And he wasn't really doing it as much with his legs. He had good numbers rushing in the other games. But in this game, it's like he got out of the pocket, scrambled, had a bunch of chunk plays with his feet.

He didn't have his best game with his arm. He had that bad interception in the first half. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. Like, it's almost...

It's almost better that he, like, obviously you want to be perfect all the time, but in the back of your head, you're like, he can't be perfect every single game. So having a game where he wasn't perfect but still really fucking good has to be comforting. And I think his whole stat line looks a lot better if Terry gets into the end zone on that first bomb that he threw. That was incredible. Where he just sprints away from the pressure and uncorks one. It was like a Josh Allen type play. Then he had that great touchdown pass to Brown at the end.

Yeah, Jeremy Brown, that was a sick throw. It was a sick throw. Yeah, I'm still not sold on the Warthog as being his nickname. I tried it out once today. Yeah. Che had to point out he doesn't have any warts. That we know of. That we know of. That we know of. That we know of. I don't know what his full medical panel says. But the Warthog, I'm struggling to come up with that one. I tried out Jesus. Okay. Jesus Christ. Yeah.

Maybe. That's a little too confusing. It might be a little confusing. But it was mostly today was about the defense. What about his name just being cool? Yeah, Jaden. Jaden Daniels is just a cool name. It is a cool name. I don't think you even need to do a nickname for him. So the defense the last two weeks has looked good. Now it's against the Cardinals, who I don't think are that bad offensively. I think that they're okay. They're...

When they can't run the ball, they're very bad. And then when they can run the ball, they look good. But you guys get credit for stopping their run. Yes. Right. But I will get way out of pocket if we happen to beat the Ravens next Sunday, which is not going to be flexed. It's going to be, I think, in the noon slate. I don't think they flexed until later anyway. No, they wanted to flex it. Oh, really? CBS protected it. CBS Dikembe swatted them. I did see...

Florio, they were trying to basically burn time during the weather delay, and Florio did a weird FaceTime interview with Jayden Daniels.

And was like, have you heard people chanting MVP yet? And J.J. was like, no, I have not. Because he's a humble guy. Yeah. And Florio basically was like, get ready to learn MVP, buddy. I don't like that. Florio, stay far away from my quarterback. Hey, Florio. It was awkward. Florio, stick to Aaron Rodgers, buddy. Yeah. Stay in your lane. But yeah, the Dan Quinn defense is starting to round into shape. Yeah.

Uh, the Browns were one of 13 on third down until garbage time. Deshaun Watson has to be benched. There was a moment in this game where I was like, Holy fuck, how is this guy still playing? And that was, I think it was like fourth and short, maybe fourth and three, fourth and four. And, uh,

And Stefanski was looking out on the field, like, calling in the plate, like, we're going to do this. We're going for it. Deshaun just started walking off the field. And Stefanski just put his head down and was like, what the fuck is going on? He doesn't want to go for a fourth down. Jameis Winston, say what you want about Jameis, but there has never been a fourth down that Jameis did not have to be dragged off the field. Competitor. He wants to stay on the field forever.

His teammates, Deshaun's teammates look like they're fed up with it too. Yep. I don't think it's Stefanski's call at this point. No, they're... I feel like it's probably above his head because he wasn't the guy that wanted Deshaun Watson there in the first place. He didn't make that trade go through, that sign and trade. I don't think it's...

I think that's probably the owner. Yeah. I think that's probably where he's either not allowed. Two theories. One, Stefanski is either not allowed to take Deshaun out because the owner says not to. Or two, Stefanski is so mad at the owner for making him take Deshaun. He's like, no, you want Deshaun? We're going to keep giving you Deshaun so you can see how wrong you were. The Browns are so unbelievably fucked.

That's really the only way to explain it because Deshaun is so bad. I think even, I think Deshaun's so bad, even like the last bit of Deshaun defenders being like, oh, the offensive line, oh, this. No, he's not.

He's just bad. He holds onto the ball so long. He takes sacks all the time. He gets lost sometimes. He gets lost. He misses throws. He's a bummer. Then he gets in front of the... I don't know if you guys saw his post-game press conference, but he's like, yeah, we just got to keep taking what the defense gives us. What? You haven't done that once. Yeah, the defense...

There was no taking involved in that. No. You just stink at football. There was a tweet from Benjamin Solak. He said, I'm confident I can name 100 active NFL quarterbacks, XFL quarterbacks, college quarterbacks, and retired quarterbacks who would be better at quarterbacking the Cleveland Browns than Deshaun Watson is right now. 100. I think that we should just try to name the worst quarterback that you think would be better on the Browns right now than Deshaun Watson. I have a name, and it's disgusting when I think about it. Peterman?

Peterman, definitely. Definitely would be better. Yep. You don't think Josh Rosen would be better? No, I don't think. I think that's probably where he might be. I think he's in business school now. One of the first ones off. I think that name for me is Desmond Ritter. I think Desmond Ritter would be better. Tim Boyle?

Yeah. Gets the ball out on time. It's any other... Yates of hell? Oh, Field Yates. Yeah, for sure. I mean, not Field Yates. TJ Yates would fucking dominate. Yeah, Field Yates. Also, Field Yates might too. Yeah. He could be better than Deshaun. I'll tell you what. The guys would... His shoulder's fucked up. The guys would like him more. Yeah. That's a fact. Like, that's part of it. I...

It's just crazy the Browns are in this situation where they're so unbelievably fucked because if any other quarterback was playing like this, he would have been benched. And they aren't going to bench him. And it's crazy because, like you said, the owner's probably putting pressure on Stefanski. Stefanski's in the worst spot ever. He's a really good coach, and he's just stuck. There's a big enough body of evidence out there for Stefanski to say that he's a much better coach than this. Yeah. They were a playoff team last year with Joe Flacco. Yeah.

It's crazy. How many of the names on the back of that sad Browns jersey, how many of those names do you think would be better than Deshaun Watson? Let's assume at the peak of their powers. Okay. Or maybe the average of their career. Okay. Johnny Football? Johnny Football I'd take. I'd take him. Oh, man, this is a... Hank, who's the worst quarterback? All right, Ty Detmer, Spurgeon Wynn.

Doug Peterson's on there. Is he really? Yeah. Matt Schaub. Kelly Holcomb. Jeff Garcia would definitely be better. Yeah. Trent Dilfer better. Charlie Fry better. Also, Kelly Holcomb was not bad. No. Brock Osweiler. Derek Anderson better. Ken Dorsey better. Brady Quinn better. Oh, Gasowski way better. Yep. Colt McCoy better. Jake DeLone better. Seneca Wallace better. Brandon Whedon, meh.

Maybe. He had a couple flashes. Kevin Hogan. Yeah, they're all better. Brandon Whedon's probably like 70 now.

Yeah, he was old. He was old. Connor Shaw. Yeah, I remember Connor Shaw. South Carolina legend. Yeah, South Carolina. I was like, damn. Deshaun Kizer. Maybe that's it. Deshaun Kizer. Yeah. Hoyer. Kizer's probably, yeah. Kizer's probably it. I would say Kizer, Josh Rosen, not as good as Deshaun Watson right now. It's so bad. It's so bad. It's so bad that Terry Bradshaw said on Fox during one of the game breaks that he would put Deshaun Watson down. Yeah. Yeah.

Put him down. Now he a little bit misspoke there because Howie Long was like, do you mean take him out? Like bench him. He's like, yeah, I meant bench him. But putting him down was...

It didn't sound crazy when it came out of his mouth. Bring the tarp out onto the field. Yeah, I think that how he saves him, I think that Terry meant, yeah, just like, you know, he's an old dog. Just put him down. He's a dog. He's an old dog. Yeah, the Browns. Yeah, and also we saw that picture with Mike Vick and Jaden Daniels this week. Yeah. What does the rest of Deshaun Watson's life look like? Let's see. Like, does he just go into hiding? I don't know. Might buy an island somewhere in the Caribbean. Yeah. What do you do? You think Deshaun went to any diddy parties?

don't know they I think the Browns probably are hoping yeah they'd be good to be good for your your if they could figure out a way to implicate him do we have our Johnny Fanta video one of my favorite this one's got to be a doozy so we don't watch these until I think it was like three minutes which that's fine with me because I love Fanta but he's got to be at the end of his rope here oh he's got the Halloween set up in the background

I bet Fanta goes all out at Halloween. He definitely gives out full-size candy bars. He's got the sickest front lawn decorations. Yep. Okay.

Guys, I've got to tell you about the best way to spend your Sunday afternoon. It's called the Circus of Insanity. This is a brand new autumn activity in which you can spend 100 minutes on a Sunday afternoon watching someone try to do the same thing over and over again, believing that it may change one of these Sundays.

Even against the National Football League's worst pass defense. Yes, worst pass defense in which for a half of football, not 70 yards were amassed. When will it end? If it hasn't ended now, it shouldn't end. Because at the end of the day, professionals are not...

You all have jobs out there. You've worked on a project with other classmates. Or surely you've done something with your family in which everybody has to participate. And you know if there's someone on your team or your group that you simply can't count on. Sure, there's a lot of people in the Cleveland Browns organization right now. In fact, everybody, everybody except the punter. But Horkis doesn't deserve to get looped into this. Everybody deserves some level of blame.

But this is a quarterback league. And if you don't have an answer at that position, you're not going to do anything productive in the NFL. Especially when the other team that you're playing has capable quarterback play.

You could sit here and blame the defense. They came ready to play. They came out and got a couple of stops. They came out with energy. They got an interception at the goal line. They tried to open your window of opportunity a little bit more. And instead, when your offense steps on the field, it is dark storm clouds. Why? Because the quarterback can't play. He doesn't have it anymore. And the Browns won't rip the Band-Aid off. And if we can all realize it...

All the people in that locker room realize and know it. Okay? I'm not that smart. And it doesn't take someone smart to know that what the Browns have is a guy that's supposed to be a leader, a quarterback supposed to be a leader of a football team.

And what that guy has done is totally, totally dissipate, shred away all of the momentum that you had 267 days ago when you were in a playoff game. In less than 270 days, your Cleveland Browns have gone from a playoff team with a loaded, talented roster to back down.

to being the pumpkin of the NFL. We brought it all together. Pumpkin of the NFL. We're back to being the joke. And all you can do is laugh. I'm past being ticked. I'm just chuckling. Oh, enjoy your Sunday. Maybe find a pumpkin patch.

Oh, he's done. He's past being ticked. He's just chuckling. Yeah, all you got to do is laugh. And it's sad if you're a Browns fan. There's no hope this season as long as he's the quarterback. There's just none. And he's, yeah, man. Like, don't even bring Chubb back. Let Chubb heal up entirely. It's crazy that the Browns felt like they were going in the right direction there for a second, and now they're just...

And it sucks even more that the Lions have figured it out. And you thought, what, like four years ago, five years ago, if you said who's going to be in a Super Bowl first, the Browns or the Lions? Like Browns all day, and now it's just...

It's just sad. Even a couple years ago, it was nice seeing the Browns and the Lions come up together. I know. They just went right back to the slums. The Browns couldn't get out of their own way. Yeah. PFT, if the playoffs ended today, you would be the number two seed in the NFC.

That's wild. It's pretty cool. It's crazy to think about. I'm definitely thinking Yoffs. You have to. Four and one. Four and one. This season honestly couldn't go any better for me. I'm so happy. The weird sad part about, as we talk about the Lions and the Browns, these are two franchises that have been beaten down into shit over the last 30 years or so. I have almost imposter syndrome for having a good quarterback.

So I wake up in the morning. I refuse to believe like this can't be happening. Something bad is going to happen.

Chaps the other day was telling me, like, hey, congrats on Jaden. And I feel guilty. I feel like I have to be like, you had a good quarterback too. I have to, like, lie and be like, yeah, no, it's not that great. Like, I'm not having that much fun. No, I'm having the fucking best time ever. And I'm not sad about it. But I do have this, like, lingering guilt in the back of my head when I hear from fans of other teams that are like, I'm happy that you're finally tasting joy. I'm like, I can't think of it that way because –

I know exactly what it's like to be stuck in a shithole. Right. And I feel bad for people that have to deal with that situation because I lived through it for so long. And I'm reaching a point where, number one, it's awesome to watch Jaden play. He brings me so much happiness in my life just watching him play out there.

but also every single time somebody hits him or when he runs out of bounds, you get scared. I think what the fuck? No, not again. And there was a moment today where I had some very, very dark thoughts for about half a second. When he ran out of bounds, his knee jiggled a little bit and then he reached and he grabbed his leg as he did like a somersault on the sidelines. And my life flashed before my eyes. And I was like, this is,

This is my worst fears coming to fruition right now. So I'm dealing with it. I'm learning how to enjoy having a good quarterback. Yeah, you got to block that out. And I don't know... You're going to just end up being...

Like someone who doesn't go out of their house because they're scared they're going to get hit by a bus. I'll be agoraphobic. Yeah. Yeah. You can't live like that. I'm trying not to, and I'm working on it. I'm working very hard. But yeah, this was another fun Sunday for me. I mean, he makes me so happy. Yeah. Four and one. He's my special guy. Second seat overall in the NFC right now. Top of the NFC East. It's awesome. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm loving it. Things have gotten, I am starting to also recognize there are red flags that should be going up when you're enjoying something too much. Cause I did surpass one of those. Um, when you buy a alternate Jersey for one of your like third string players, I reached that point in Jaden's career arc today with Luke McCaffrey. Okay. I got an Arctic camo, Luke McCaffrey Jersey. That,

But you had to buy that. But I think that's going to be safe. Your hands were tied. I think that's going to stand up. You see that jersey, you have to buy it. You have to get that one. They make that. When they sit in the NFL shop, they basically make that because they're like, at least we'll sell one. Yeah. I want to see a breakdown on the NFL, like on Fanatics or on the NFL official site where it shows what percentage of their worst –

pieces of merch get purchased by me. Yeah. Cause sometimes I think they put things up there just for me to buy. Oh yeah, definitely. And you try to get, you try to buy it for us. I might be wearing one of them right now. Actually. Yeah. Looking at it. Yeah, absolutely. All right. Let's take a break and we'll get some more games. We are brought to you by our friends at game time. Oh, Hank's phone is dead. PFT. Can you look up the saints chiefs game? Yep. What the prices are. So game time, the exclusive ticketing partner of barstool sports.com.

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Okay, next up, we've got Jaguars 37, Colts 34. Another Sunday thriller. First of all, happy birthday to Trevor Lawrence. It was his birthday today. Yeah, I was upset that we didn't know that going into it. Well, I...

So I thought the Jaguars would win this game because, like I said, I thought it was Trevor Lawrence's slump buster with Gus Bradley's defense that he knows well. He did play well. It feels like he got out of his slump. He had 371 yards and two TDs. Also, Doug Peterson, we've talked about his quotes, and he's basically like just the this is fine dog every single week.

I'll give him credit this week. He said, there's a weight off everybody's shoulders. I bet there is. That's really nice. Because that was a game that you had to win. They almost Jaguared it in the end, but you had to win that game, and they did win that game. That's really nice. And so now this is 10 years since the Colts have won a game in Jacksonville. So there were a few things. The Colts hadn't won there in forever. Trevor Lawrence's birthday and the Tom Coughlin Ring of Honor. Correct. This was all, this was a stars aligning. What's it called when the planets all get together? Uh.

An eclipse? Yeah, an eclipse. Yeah, it was like an eclipse down in Florida. And they still almost lost this game. They still almost lost it. They almost got flackoed. Flacko looked pretty good again today. And at one point when he took off for the football,

He ran faster than anybody on the field. Flacco ran. They said, well, here's where I'm staying a little bit woke on the Amazon next gen stats or whatever. Yeah. They said Joe Flacco ran 18 miles per hour. Yeah. That's really fast. Imagine being on a treadmill and you turn it up to 18. Yeah, that's really, really fast. I don't think he was going 18 miles per hour. I don't think he was going 18. It also, while it was happening in the moment,

It was the same feeling I had like when my kids took their first step where I was very proud but also very nervous that there was going to be a really, really horrific accident and like a fall or something was going to happen and we were going to lose Joe Flacco. So I was like clapping and I was like, wait, get down. Please get down. I had just never seen this. Yeah. It's been years. It's probably been like seven years since I've seen Joe take off like that. For me, it was more like seeing your teacher in the supermarket.

Yeah. It's like, you're not supposed to be doing that. Yeah. What are you doing right now? That's not your game, Joe. It was the, uh, stat hole sent me the, the stat. It was the second longest run, uh, for the oldest. So Vince Evans had, I think he was a little bit older. He had a 23 yard run in 1994 for the Raiders. So this was, uh,

The longest run for the oldest player since then. Since 1994. Yes. That's pretty good. So, I mean, listen, Kevin Durant put it perfectly. He said, put Flacco anywhere and he's going to hoop. He's going to hoop. That's really what it is. Joe Flacco is, I don't know how the Browns didn't keep him. I don't know how other teams didn't call. I know that you have to put Anthony Richardson back in because you're hoping that he becomes the future player.

But Flacco's the best, and it's so much fun watching him. And he actually has a ton of weapons, and he was spreading the ball everywhere. He threw over 300 yards, three TDs. He's just the best. It's so much fun when Flacco's playing. In Flacco's last two games against the Jags, this one, and then also last year with the Browns, he's thrown for 670 yards and six touchdowns. As an old man, old man Flacco has their number. Old man Flacco.

And representation matters. Good job. We learned he's an 85 January baby. Yeah, 39. 39 years old. The Jaguars, good for you. Yeah. That's the best thing I can say. It's good for you. Defense didn't look good. Trevor did enough. But good for you getting a win. Yeah. Good for you. Can we do that thing now where we show the circle of parody in the NFL where every team has like a link?

Oh, no, because I guess we've got undefeated teams. So we can't do the circle parody just yet, which is like this team beat that team, we beat that team, and then you make your way all the way through the league, and you're like, wow, that's wild. Yeah. And he fell as king. Yeah. We finally popped the champagne. Not yet for that because you have to wait for the Chiefs and the Vikings to lose.

No, I was going to say pop the champagne for the Lions and the Browns' defeated teams. Yes, yes. Or I guess it would be like a Schlitz or something. They're going to go undefeated? Yeah. Crack open the Mad Dogs. They get to keep it. They get to keep it. The Jaguars have won a game. Yeah, I was happy the Jaguars won a game. Feels like the locker room needed that. As for the Colts, I...

It is kind of a tough thing because they do have to go back to Anthony Richardson, but Joe Flacco is... He's still got it. The guy's still fucking got it. You got to say that Flacco gives you your best chance.

Yeah. But then you have to go back to Anthony Richardson. Right, because you're not. What if he gives us our best future chance? Right. And also you spent, what, a fourth pick overall? You can't be like, oh, no, we're not going to play you because Joe Flacco gives us our best chance. You're not a Super Bowl aspiration team. You're a team where if Anthony Richardson becomes what you hope he becomes, then you're a Super Bowl aspiration team. So you have to keep him. And also you have to pay him $100,000 for every win.

So there's that. Joe Flacco, yes. That's true. Jim Irsay looks at that and he's like, I could pay Joe Flacco or I could buy one of Willie Nelson's harmonicas. Yeah. Yeah. So I think I'd rather have the harp. Tough choice. I'd rather have the harp. Tough choice. Yeah. Good job, Jaguars. You won a football game on Tom Coughlin Day. Pretty good. And now you're going for your extended stay in London. Are they playing back-to-back? I think they are. Pretty much a home game for the Jaguars. Yeah. Yeah.

So the Bears play them next week, but then I think they stay for two weeks, which that's got to suck. There's no way the guys like that. I would almost rather stay there for two weeks than just go over and then come right back. Yeah, true. I guess that's true. But it's still like every year you're like, all right, now we got to go to London for two straight games. Oh, no, maybe they aren't. Oh, no, they are. Yep. They're playing the Bears and then the Patriots. What are their travel plans? Are they going over there early in the week? The Jaguars have to have...

The travel plans to England locked down perfectly. They have to have the best, right? At this point, there's no excuse. Yeah. Get on Shad Khan's yacht and sail across the Atlantic. There's no excuse for them not to just have it perfected for how much they go play there. But then again, it's the Jaguars. It is the Jaguars. But the Jaguars won. And Trevor Lawrence, birthday. That would have been the worst birthday ever if he just continued to suck. Yeah. Yeah, that would be bad. That would be really bad. How old is he? 25? Trevor Lawrence, 20. I'm guessing 25. Is he drafted 20...

There also were multiple times during this game that, yeah, he's 25 years old, that Chaps, our good friend who's a Jaguars fan, just kept on saying, that's Jaguars football, and it was always for the worst things. Yep. And it was just like he kept on saying. The Jaguars also wore some sick throwbacks today. Yeah. Real throwbacks. I like those. Those are real actual pre-Bortles throwbacks. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, real throwbacks. All right, next up, Bears 36, Panthers 10.

That was a really fun game. I don't know what else to say. Caleb looked awesome. The Bears' defense continues to be really good. I'll say something nice about Matt Eberflus. The Bears have allowed 21 or fewer points in 10 straight games, which is the longest streak in the NFL. And, yeah, this was the... Obviously, people were like, well, it's the Panthers. I don't care. Good teams are supposed to destroy bad teams. That's what the Bears did today. This was a must-win. What did you say, Hank? Did you say something? Oh, yeah.

He was awesome. The touchdown throw to DJ Moore was incredible. He had two touchdowns passing, a touchdown running, and yeah, it was fucking awesome. He looked like he was having fun. It was so much fun. So much fun. I was having fun. Yeah, he had a lot of fun. Also, credit to Matt Eberflus, the Bears are now on a league high. Is it eight-game home winning streak? Yeah. That's pretty cool. We keep winning games at home. We keep winning games at home. Also, he didn't have a touchdown running. I forgot it got called back.

Okay. Yeah, yeah. But then we ran it in. Because there was that moment after he got in and scored where he spiked it so hard that he fell over. Yes, yes. We've got to work on our celebrations. Caleb threw a couple dots today. He looked really good out there. And, yeah, big double win for the Bears. Yeah, people want so bad for him to suck, and I just – I'm not going to – I mean, I know they're going to say Panthers. I don't care. And the Panthers – the fact the Panthers had Bryce Young in there was just insult to injury at the end of the game. I'm wondering if we've –

If Andy Dalton is turned back into a little bit of a pumpkin here, he might have. I mean, the Bears defense is very good, but he's just Andy Dalton. Yeah. And we had no negative plays, no interceptions. I think Caleb only had one sack when he had some time. Shane Waldron also like he's actually calling some good plays. We're learning how to run the ball in a heavy set on goal line after the debacle in Indianapolis two weeks ago.

I said this was a must win going in and they, it was a laugher. It was nice to have a laugher. I feel like the players confronting Shane Waldron actually did some damage. Yes. He was like, okay, I get it. I'm sorry. That's the thing is like, I know the limitations of this team offensive line. The play calling has been suspect at times, as long as they keep getting a little bit better and it looks like they're not just like, well, we are what we are. I'm happy. And Caleb Williams has gotten better every single week of the season. Uh,

everyone's going to yuck my yum. I don't care. I'm as happy as I could be. You fucking looked awesome. DeAndre Swift looked good. I do have one question for a person in this, on this show. Okay. It could be anyone. Yeah, it's a draft question about the Bears and a player that was taken by another team. Okay, it could be anybody. Are we ready to have the conversation that Gravon Dexter is better than Jalen Carter?

Are we ready to have that conversation? I don't know who that is. Okay. Well, he has significantly better stats than Jalen Carter. I'm just wondering if you want to have that conversation now or you want to wait. We have no edge rushers. Okay. He gets doubled on every play. All right. So you know what? We'll save the conversation. Jalen Carter gets doubled on every play. We'll save the conversation. Max, your answer is no. We're not ready to have that conversation. You're not ready to have that conversation. That's fine.

The Bears' defense has been monstrous, and Dexter has been a monster. But we are not ready to have that conversation. We should have it at some point, but we don't have to have it right now. Just say Phillies. I'm looking at Nick Cassianos on the TV right now. So you don't want to have this conversation? Look at Nick Cassianos. He's got no water. Because it would be a shame if our second-round pick from that draft...

was better than the guy that you try to sometimes say that we passed up on. When's the last time I said that? That's you projecting. When's the last time I said that? Probably recently. I haven't said that in a year. A year. I think you sometimes look at me when you say Jalen Carter's so good, and then you look at me. You give me a look.

Well, let's just learn who Dexter is, and then we can have the conversation. Okay. Just say Phillies, Max. I'm looking at Bryce Harper. There we go. I'm just kidding. Jalen Carter does get double teamed a lot. I do not think that...

Dexter's just been really good. I just wanted to shout him out. The Bears, as opposed to what we know about the Jaguars, the Bears are all over the travel schedule next week. Yes. They're leaving tomorrow. Yes. Getting a full week. Smart. Getting acclimated to that clock. Bears know about sleep schedules. Yeah. Smart move. Also, shout out DJ Moore. And I have a new take on DJ Moore. I think he's just a little bit of a loner.

He might be a loner. He also has bad body language when things are... He's a bad body language all-star. But, okay, so my good friend Mark Silverman, who I do my radio hits with, Waddle and Sylvie, he does... He is part of the broadcast team for the radio. And he took a picture of DJ Moore after he scored a touchdown sitting by himself. And he's like, look, like we... Everyone's like...

you know, psychoanalyzing what DJ Moore thinks. He's just kind of a locked-in loner guy on the sideline. Even in a good moment, he's sitting by himself just, you know, doing his own thing. Well, that might be the case. It also might be that he knows that he's not a guy that needs to be around other people when he's not feeling good. Yeah, but that was a moment where he was feeling great. He had an awesome game. He tore up the Panthers.

Yeah, Caleb had some absolute darts that he threw, too. He's moving around. He also passed up the seam. He also was extending plays like he did at USC. It looked awesome. I couldn't be happier. And I know people don't want me to be happy. They don't want anyone to be happy on this show. That's okay. If we're being honest. But that's fine. Hank? Big Cat, you know what? Big Cat, he can't exist. I can't exist.

I want you to be happy. I want the Bears to be good. Yeah, I know you do. But do you agree people don't want us to be happy? No, that's fine, though. Yeah, that's just the internet. I get it, too. Because I don't want Max. Well, actually, I do want Max to be happy. I want Max to be really happy for a little bit. Yeah. And then very happy. And then no comment. Then no comment. Then no comment. Then no comment. Because I want him to be happy right now. Yeah. Same. Yeah. The Panthers are back to just, yeah.

Yeah, if you're David Tepper, just stop going to these games. Because basically you're a giant target for every fan base to yell things at you, and you want to pour drinks on them. Yeah. You really want to, and you're going to feel bad if you don't pour drinks on them. So you're just, you're tempting yourself by exposing yourself to all that negativity. Yes. Just stay home. Yeah.

Don't ever leave your house. Although Bryce Young was 4-7 for 58 yards. Yeah, Bryce, when he was in, didn't look as bad as he did at the start of the season. Yeah, it was garbage time. The whole second half was garbage time. I guess if I only had one critique about the game, it felt like the Bears took their foot off the gas. They came out 3-0, and I was like, God damn it. And then Chubba Hubbard had that big run.

But then they scored four out of the next five drives touchdowns. And then in the second half, they're just like, this game is over. You know what we did this week in Big Cat?

We took care of business. We took care of business. We took care of business. I'm serious. It was bad teams, but you know what? You got to take care of business sometimes. Killing bad teams still counts. It's the NFL. It's hard to win in this league. You're never as bad or as good as you think you are. They pay those guys to play, too. That's what I was saying. All right. Next up, Dolphins 15, Patriots 10. Yeah. I guess we'll start with the Dolphins. Good job winning a game.

running the football. It looks like that's their new plan. Jalen Wright, who was hyped up, like, oh, the Dolphins got another fast guy. I think because A-chain got hurt, Jalen Wright was a stud. He had 86 yards on 13 carries, and it looked like the Dolphins were like, hey, let's just try to run the ball instead of playing like we usually play where we don't have a quarterback. So good job. I also think Mike McDaniel needed this win very badly because I don't know if you guys noticed,

He has been just like so sad to look at. Every time they show him, he has the biggest frown. Oh, yeah. He looks like at the same time depressed and also very confused why it's not working. Yeah. Like he doesn't get it yet because two is not playing. Right. That's a pretty simple thing to figure out. I had an obstructed view for this game because of where the TV situation was. This is bottom right. I only heard about this game through people yelling at Hank to pay attention.

So, Hank, can you give me your rundown that you got also secondhand? I was watching. You watched the whole thing? What did you think? I was sitting right behind you. Oh, you watched the whole game? Yeah, he was there. He was there. I didn't know he was there the whole time. Yeah, he was there the whole time. Hopefully he didn't say anything bad. Hank, question for you. I'm confused, too. He was there the whole time. Okay. Yeah, he was in the back. Question for you. I think you got to just put in Drake May.

Why? This makes no sense to me. And I see Patriots fans saying that as well. I just don't. It doesn't make sense to me. Did you see the report that there was a potential mutiny in the locker room? That just seems like Boston media going. But this is when you have a guy who's better than the other guy, that can happen. They're looking and they're like, we don't have a chance. We're not competitive with Jacoby Brissett. But we really...

We almost won this game. We did win this game. Jalen Polk was in the end zone. His feet were inbounds. So you're counting it as a win? I'm counting it as like we didn't get blown out. If we were getting absolutely torched every week, that'd be one thing. Okay, so here's my follow-up. Why wouldn't you put in Drake May? Injury risk. Injury risk. Okay, so when will your offensive line be better enough to not have the injury risk? Next year. That's crazy to me. I don't know why you'd sit him for an entire year.

I mean, you can play him at the end of the season. But the injury risk would still be there, what I'm saying. But there's less games to get injured. Got it. You're minimizing the risk. I kind of agree with Hank that you don't need to put in Drake May because you... What if you lose the locker room? Well, you could lose the locker room because the guys that are catching the passes, blocking, running the football, they see a guy that's not that good and they're like, well...

this is affecting my paycheck now. Correct. The fact that we can't do anything. Well, the guys blocking aren't going to be getting many more paychecks, I don't think. That's a valid point. That's a valid point. I just don't know. But as a fan, Hank, I kind of agree with the fact that you don't,

You don't necessarily need to win games with Drake May this season. No, you don't. I'm not talking about winning games. I'm talking about getting Drake May. Like, wouldn't you rather Drake May play this year, take some of his lumps, learn the NFL game so next year you can hit the ground running? Yeah, then give him three games at the end of the year. Okay. I think, you know. Put him in blowouts maybe? Week five, week six. Because now, and this is loser talk. Oh. But. Go on. We're not going to win. We're not thinking the offs. We're not going to make the playoffs. Okay.

Can't be the best at the actual game of football, but it's nice to go on a website and see your name at the top of a list. So if you go to the NFL draft order right now. Number one. Wow, look at how this has changed. This is crazy. Hank, tell me about your big board right now. Since you are on the clock, if the season ended today, anything can happen. Not looking at Tankathon for this season has been so nice.

So we've just done a Freaky Friday switch. So who do you want, Hank? You're on the clock. I think you probably got to go with the best player in college football. Travis Hunter. Yeah, good point. Yeah, that makes sense. He had a bye week this week, but we don't forget that he is the best player in college football. That's a good point, Hank. Or Hank, are you thinking trade? Belichick would trade. What about Shador? Would you take Shador? No. Why not? We got a QB. What about alignment? Why wouldn't you like trade? Trading and getting alignment is definitely an option. That's a Belichick move. Yeah. Yeah.

You don't want Shador because Shador is kind of a Travis Hunter merchant. You know? Yeah. Travis Hunter is so good that Shador can't help but be awesome. But I feel like you get Shador and then you trade Drake May before he starts. If you play him a little bit. Yeah. No, I trust in Drake May. It's a process. It's a process. We can't. You know, Romo isn't built in a day starting in week six and him getting smoked. So when did you find this tank-a-thon? When did you find out about tank-a-thon?

I just Googled NFL draft order. I don't even know what tank. Oh, okay. You got to go on tank. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Look at our boy. He's all grown up. This is tank. It's on right here. Yeah. Take it on. Number one. Well, the Bengals. Oh, no, I am looking. This is the website. This website. I was on. Do we really overrate that week? One win for the Patriots.

That's crazy. That is kind of nuts that you beat the Bengals and you're one spot ahead of them at one and two for the draft. Yeah. Yeah, this mock draft. New England Patriots, Travis Hunter. Wow. Because he's the best player in college football? Yeah. That would make sense. That makes sense, yeah. The Scouts know. I don't know what the Dolphins play. I mean, someone had to win this game, right? Kind of, yeah. Technically, you could have tied. Yeah. Yeah.

Did you take the over in this game? No. Yeah. That was crazy to think about. Hank, has the thought crossed your brain that the Patriots have not won a home game since you were the keeper of the light? Oh, no. Is that true? Regular season, yeah. No, it hasn't. Has it now? It has now. Shit. Yeah.

Also very funny in this game when the Patriots kicker missed a 33-yard field goal. It was never even a chance, and Hank just goes, that's when you should have known he was there. He's like, it's windy there. And then they showed the replay, and the flag couldn't have been deader. Just limp flag. It was a tough game to watch. Yeah, it was ugly. I mean, I was watching, and I don't know that I was paying attention the whole time. Yeah. The stands were full? According to...

The app I was looking at before said it was a sellout, 66,000 people. Wow, good sports time. There you go. Hank, have you watched any of the Aaron Hernandez show? No, just the clips that you've sent.

it is I have to watch it is it all out it's not all out yet no okay so how many episodes I think we've got it's on FX Hulu yeah I think it's on Hulu but it comes out like once a week but I think we're up to like five episodes now how many episodes total don't know when's Kirk's episode the last one okay judging by Hernandez timeline I would guess the last episode yeah they're gonna do him dirty they're who Hernandez no I think they're gonna do Kirk dirty probably yeah so it's one of my favorite shows it's awful it's

really really bad but I can't stop watching it because it's so fucking funny how they portray like people that we know the actor they have playing Belichick is laugh out loud funny the actor they have playing Robert Kraft I think they just got a guy and they said we're gonna just spray paint your hair white and then we're gonna spray paint your

You sent us that clip. That was incredible. And the on-field stuff is so funny when they have these actors that don't play football trying to play football. And I'm going to guess that the guy they have playing, Hernandez, who's not a bad actor, but he runs, conservatively speaking, probably like a 5.840.

and they have him repeatedly running the 40-yard dash, it's one of my favorite shows in the world. I love it. Okay, so episode six, that's the one Kirk's in. I think I might just watch that one. Just the last one? Yeah. Yeah, no, you should watch the whole thing because it's Kirk for the listeners. Kirk Manahan, yeah. So he's on the IMDb. He's our colleague and friend, and he's going to be in the last episode because...

I think he said that he was, he's a, he was, he works for Barstool. Now he was a radio host in Boston at the time of the Hernandez stuff. And he had the report that Hernandez might be gay. And then Hernandez, uh,

committed suicide like two days after and so i think what the fx thing is going to do is try to like put it on kirk which will be bullshit but i think they might i yeah i don't know but most of the show is just about how gay he was okay i'd say oh so then they won't probably not i'd say 60 of the show is like hernandez liked to smoke a lot of weed and because he was gay okay

All right, I got to watch it. I do love cheesy, terrible television. Yeah, and they got this dude playing Urban Meyer that is a cartoon character of Urban Meyer. They got Arnold Schwarzenegger's son plays Tim Tebow. Okay. He does a great job just pretty much the entire time being like, coach is right.

Oh, man. All right, I'm going to watch it. I'm going to watch it. It's not good. Yeah, no, no. I like bad television. It's bad, but it's really, really good bad television. Yeah, I love bad television. I mean, I'm our good friend Rob Lowe and doing the Drew Peterson. Yeah. You know why they call me Big Daddy? I thought you were saying you're Rob Lowe in the stands wearing a hat that just says TV. Bad TV. Yeah. I do love bad TV. Okay, so don't start Drake May.

Not yet. When will you tell us when? Double digits game of the season. Okay. Jacoby Reset does... I'll say one thing about Jacoby Reset. He gets fucking killed. See, that's why I think that they're having him play is because he looks...

I want to say like somewhat competent. Yeah. He understands the – I almost said he knows the offense. I don't know if somewhat competent would be what I would say. He understands the offense, and he's a big guy. So when he gets hit, he's not getting broken in half. So if they were to put Drake out there, they might be like, Drake is a little bit smaller, not built to absorb those hits.

I feel like he understands the offense in the sense like he could, if you tell him a line, he could repeat it back. But then if you asked him to write down the full offense or execute it, it's just not, it hasn't been good. It's not good football watching at all. It's a pretty big bummer. But you've got the right mindset, tank-a-thon. Yeah, and at least it's much worse for Dolphins fans because...

They look terrible, and all they did was lose a QB. Yeah. Like, if you would think with, you know, Mike McDaniel, boy genius, all these weapons, they could string together some wins. Boy genius. But they look bad. Yeah. No, it is true. I'd rather be the Patriots than the Dolphins. Oh, that's bold. Wow. Right? I mean... Even with the mutiny? It depends on if the Dolphins end up getting a new quarterback. Yeah.

it seems like they still have enough talent to be good, but their talent's getting, their talent be like a year older. I don't, yeah, you might be right. Cause I feel like you're doing a full rebuild. Cause the dolphins feel like,

I don't know if Tua will, like, is Tua going to play again? And then if he plays again, is he going to get hurt again? And then it's, are we going to do the whole thing again? I think Tua wants to play again. I think he's, his intentions are that he's going to come back and play, but I'm going to, the entire time he's on the field, I'm going to be like, please don't get hurt again. But it does feel like the Dolphins are kind of stuck. They are a little stuck. And the Patriots, if there is in fact a mutiny, then that might actually impact like the full rebuild.

Because you're not going to fire Jerry Mayo, right? I don't blame the mutiny. One person's mutiny, that's another person's patriot. You would want the mutiny, though, to be on the side of your rookie quarterback. That's the one good thing. That's true. That they are galvanizing around him, team leader. Maybe they'll just fire everybody that was on the mutiny. That would be hilarious if there was actually a mutiny. Yeah. And they're like, you're not the coach anymore, Mayo. Drake May is the coach.

You think they'd go straight to May? Yeah, just change one letter in his office placard. That's true. Yeah, just scrape it off the door. Yeah. Okay. Afternoon games. Cardinals, 24. 49ers, 23. This was the quintessential, you're never as bad as you look and you're never as good as you look because...

The 49ers kicked the shit out of the Patriots last week. The Cardinals got their ass kicked by the Commanders, and the Cardinals walked in and won this game. And their defense was incredible in the second half. Shout out Jesse Lukita, who had not played a single game and was the guy who punched out the ball for Jordan Mason, which basically changed the game because the 49ers were going to score. They stopped in the entire second half. And Kyler's running.

That fourth down throw Kyler made to Marvin Harrison was awesome. Yeah, Kyler's looking good. He's looking good. Was it the first series of the game that he took off for that touchdown? Yeah. And he knew he was gone. He's like, nobody's catching me from behind. See ya. I'm out. On the other side, Brock Purdy feels like he's got a lot on his plate right now. Yeah. I feel like the Niners have taken an offense that was built around –

having a sick-ass, beautiful running game, and then Brock Purdy not screwing things up and being like, Brock Purdy, go out there and have a sick-ass, beautiful passing game, and our running game won't screw things up. Yeah. I don't think that's the formula for the Niners. Yeah. They did get Brandon Ayuk going in the first half, so that was good because that was the first time he felt like it was like, oh, shit, yeah, this is Brandon Ayuk again. But, yeah, I agree with you. I think we're also at the point where it's like,

Jordan Mason's been good, but Christian McCaffrey is Christian McCaffrey. And then you have these moments where the fumble happens.

And just the game of inches where Christian McCaffrey is special and losing a special player like that, you lose games like this. And at the goal line, when they're having him do some of the stuff that Christian McCaffrey used to do, don't do that. Just give him the ball and let him run. Instead of splitting him out wide into the slot and then having him do those little option routes that McCaffrey does so awesomely, don't ask Mason to do that. Just hand the ball to Mason. Yeah. The good news is...

For the 49ers. First of all, the Cardinals, I feel like this was a huge win. It was the first time they beat the 49ers in a few years. It was also a huge win just because the Cardinals felt like they were teetering on the, oh shit, this season is going to really suck. Winning this game puts it back to, oh, maybe we could do something here. They're kind of fun. The 49ers, as a 2-3 team,

Still good, and the NFC West is completely in flux. Basically, you're not going to get the one seed, but you can still very much win the NFC West. The fact that the Seahawks are only a game ahead of you, and you play them on Thursday. I have the Niners as my top two and three team in the NFL. Top two and three team. And then the Jets probably... Well, the Cardinals just beat them. Yeah, so the Cardinals feel like...

I still have the Knights at him. The Cardinals literally just beat him. But I'm talking about in terms of just total team. They played him, and they beat him. It was hot. It was really hot. But they beat him. It was really hot. The NFL wouldn't let them wear their white jerseys. That was the difference. They decided who...

Who is better on the field? Yeah, but they wouldn't let them wear their white jerseys. The Cardinals is better than the Niners. This might be controversial. So it's interesting you said that because like seven hours ago, I had the Cardinals as a better two and three team than the Niners, but they flip-flopped after the game was over. Got it. Yeah. But yeah, the Niners wanted to wear the white jerseys in the 100-degree weather. The NFL said, no, you got to let us know before the season starts if you want to do that. So the Cardinals got to wear it.

And then they had, you see, Kyler on the sidelines had his two guys whose job it was to just hold a portable tent over his head at all times on the sidelines. That's good work. That is good work. Also, if you're a 49ers fan, Kyle Shanahan teams have, I know recently it feels like they've started fast, but here are his records in each quarter of the season. Kyle Shanahan, games 1 through 4, 17 and 15. Games 5 through 8, 10 and 18. I guess that's 10 and 19 now.

games 9-12, 17-11, games 13-16, 20-8. So the teams get better. Yeah, the teams get better as the year goes along.

But still, bad loss. They were up 13, and they didn't score in the entire second half. Bad loss. Kyle in the red zone, he was just calling some weird shit tonight. Yeah. It was really strange. I feel like, I don't know. Kyle needs a guy. He needs to have a full-time coach that just stands next to him and says, run the ball. Yeah, run the ball. You're on the one-yard line. Run the fucking ball. Okay. Okay.

Broncos 34, Raiders 18. The Broncos jerseys, they should wear only those jerseys. They were so nice. And Bo Nix has arrived. Yeah, Bo Nix is fun. I still don't know if he's good or not, but he's fun. Bo Nix is fun, certified. Yeah. Stamp it. And when he wears the throwback uniforms are awesome. I don't know if you saw this. Did you see the throwback injury card?

No. They had a throwback injury cart that had the giant Broncos blue helmet on it. That's awesome. And it was also like an old school, looked like a bullpen cart, kind of like a Buick type body frame. I love that. It looked like maybe an old Bel Air, but it was sick. It was just a good look.

And they also had another throwback today, which was they had, I believe, the first white cornerback to get an interception in 22 years. Whoa. Since Jason Sehorne. Whoa. And it was funny because Minshew threw a pick to Riley Moss and then Minshew immediately got benched after that. Yeah. So that's the line. I was going to say, is that the most depressing quarterback controversy ever?

I don't even know if it's a controversy, but Gardner Minshew and Aiden O'Connell? Yeah. That's just a bummer. And I love Gardner Minshew. I think Gardner Minshew should just... Don't make him start too many games. It's not fair. You have to know the limitations of what someone can do. And him starting a bunch of games, don't do it. Because here's the thing. You can't get a spark from Gardner Minshew if he's the starter. Yeah.

And you can't get a spark from O'Connell if he just comes into the game. He's not a spark guy. Right. The only way you can generate a spark is if Gardner doesn't start. Then you put him in. Guess what? You just got a spark. You just got the spark. So you can maybe tell AOC all week he's starting. And then, I don't know, day of the game, be like, we're going to give the ball to Gardner. Right. And then you got a spark. Right. And the spark happens. But yeah, it's just...

It feels like they're asking too much of him. They might be. And he also got caught maybe eating his boogers on the sideline. Did he really? I didn't see that. Yeah. He went straight from nose to mouth. That's a bummer. Nose to mouth. It was as clear as day. What was it? The raccoon that they found? Yeah, there was a raccoon, a rally raccoon before the game. Nice. He was climbing up the stands, looking spry, looking chipper. But Bo Nix, I don't know. Do you think he's good or do you think he's just fun? I think he's...

Can I say neither? You don't think he's fun? No. I think Bo Nix is a little bit fun. I watched too much Bo Nix in college. I think he was fun early at Auburn. Then he was kind of just... He's like good-ish. Yeah, but I don't know. The way he runs around out there, he actually looks like he's on cocaine. Auburn Bo Nix was very fun. Oregon Bo Nix was more...

But these guys can change. He's more buttoned up than he got married and he just threw the passes that were there. Remember Brock Purdy? Guys can change once they get in the league. Yeah. Listen, he had a good game. You have to give credit. And the Broncos' defense is – we've been hyping it up, but the Broncos' defense is a very, very legit unit. Patrick Stratan is incredible. That 100-yard return was awesome. Their defense will keep them in a lot of games, and they could be a sneaky –

playoff team. In the conversation. They're in the conversation. That we're having right now. If they keep those throwbacks, they're more in the conversation. But yeah, the Broncos defense is legit and it feels like

As long as Bo Nix keeps progressing, the Broncos, for the first time in a long time, probably since Peyton Manning, have a little bit of hope. Yeah. And that's good. Yeah, and Javante Williams is sick. Yeah. He's one of my favorite players to watch. Yeah, they got a big one against the Chargers next week. So that will be who can be basically who can be the Chiefs pitch.

It's a big battle to win. But that's a great prize to get. Yeah. If you're the team in that division that everyone else is always disappointed for not beating the Chiefs, that's a good place to be. It could be the passing of the torch. Yep.

Go shit. Now it's the Broncos. Watch out for them. But yeah, I'm pumped for the Broncos fans. Like the throwbacks were great and the end zones were cool and their defense. Awesome. And Bo Nix had a great second half. He had three touchdown drives. So good for them. Brock Bowers also is sick and it's too bad because he doesn't really have a quarterback. Yeah. But when he caught that pass in the first quarter, that was nice. Also, Max Crosby should just win defensive player of the year because he's doing it like

on a bad team and just keeps wrecking everyone i think he has after he has a sack in 10 straight games or something i read it i don't know yeah and i also feel like max is one of those guys where if he's a game time decision and he plays he has one of his best games yeah he had two sacks today he's a fucking beast he's an absolute beast um okay should we take oh yeah that was great there was a moment where uh bonex was talking to his offensive line

audible-ing and max uh crosby just stood up and said bo speak up they don't fucking know can you can you play the audio i love max crosby damn that's gotta be so emasculating yeah your opponent is coaching you up yeah because you're being too timid at the line yeah

Speak with your chest, Bo. You're a rookie. Come on. They should wear those uniforms every week. Every single week. Fans should get to vote on this. Where it's like, hey, this is the uniform that we're just going with. Yeah. What was the other thing you said about a fan today? Was it on that kickoff where they had to get a guy out on the field to hold the ball? Yeah. So we had that. There was a moment. What game was super windy? Yeah.

Patriots. No, it was Bills played in a dome. I can't remember which game it was, but there's a new rule with the new kickoff rule. If it's super, if it's super windy and they, you know, try to tee it up and then it falls off. It might've actually been the Bears game. Uh,

a 12th guy's allowed on the field to hold it and then he has to immediately run off the field. Yeah, you've got to hightail it off because if you don't, they can penalize you. And this would be a wild scenario. Like if the guy that's holding the ball, he's not an actual player on that play. He's just kind of like a piece of equipment.

So he's helping hold the ball. If that guy were to actually make a tackle on the kick return, the refs could throw a flag and award a touchdown. Right. And say this is unnatural to the game of football. We're going to step in. We're going to count it as a touchdown. So this is actually an idea from our good friend Sam Schwartzstein because he created this new kickoff. And when I think it was over the summer, he texted me. He's like, hey, I think they're going to do this where you can have a 12th guy.

and they should make it so that a fan can win a contest. And it would be incredible. Imagine if one of us were just fully padded, running out onto an NFL field just to hold the ball. Problem is we'd have to hold the ball. Yeah, well, I'd be really... And if we fucked that up... We already talked about that. We'd be really good at holders. Mm-hmm.

It'd be sick. Really good. I'd wear gloves. Would never drop that. I'd wear gloves. If they had the mascot do it in the full mascot uniform, that would rock too. That would be sick. Or they should make the owner do it. Yeah. Virginia McCaskey would never get off the field. Yeah, some of them can't get off the field. It would be so great.

David Tepper just running out there, having to see his face, his team face to face. They say that you can't, you know, if you make a tackle as that player, then it could be a penalty. What about hitting that guy on the way off the field? You should be able to. Just absolutely light up David Tepper. God, that would rock. Yeah, it'd be cool. If we had fans out there. All right, before we do the last two games and talk Steelers, Cowboys, Pifty, you want to do a couple ads? Yeah, before we get to these last games, they're brought to you by...

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The Giants kicked their ass. Yeah. From start to finish, the Giants were the much better team. The Seahawks looked bad on offense.

The Seahawks look bad on defense. Daniel Jones played one of the better games I've seen him play recently. Yes. The Giants were just very good today. Yeah, no, it was a bookend of crazy plays because we had the Giants have a 94-yard drive to the one-yard line, fumble at the goal line, Seahawks pick it up, run it all the way back to start the scoring, and then to end the scoring, the Giants...

Who is the guy? Ford Wheaton, I believe, jumped over the center, perfectly timed it and blocked, basically ate the football, blocked the tying field goal. And then Isaiah Simmons picked it up and scored a touchdown. And it was like Giants did in all three phases. Yeah, it was sick. So on that last field goal, I went back. I watched the replay of it. You know what happened on it?

They did a very smart play. It's technically not legal, but it's smart what they did. After the snapper snaps the ball, you're not allowed to block them. You're not allowed to push them. There were two guys on the Giants that were pushing. One guy was pushing down on the back of the center that snapped it, the long snapper, and the other guy was pushing down on the back of one of the guards, keeping them low, and then they jumped over their head and

blocked the kick, and it got returned. Because if you touch the center, it's a penalty. It should be a penalty, yeah, to touch the long snapper. Within, like, I think a second or so of him snapping the ball, maybe even longer than that. But, yeah, they did a very smart thing that wasn't called. It looked like when you fuck around in Madden and you just go off sides to just be like, fuck it, I just want to block this no matter what. It looked so easy that I thought to myself, why doesn't every team just do that? Right, and it also, it was a quintessential...

play that if you're a Seahawks fan, you watched it and for at least three minutes you're like, so they're going to throw the flag, right? Yeah. Like the flag has to come out. This can't be how this happened. Yeah. It was a wild play. And this also, now we've got a trend in the NFL Big Get. Have you heard about the trend? No. The Lions hangover? Oh. So yeah.

I love these. I love these. Okay, so the Rams, they played the Lions, then they lost to the Cardinals, 41-10. Right? The Buccaneers, they beat the Lions, and then the next game they lost to the Broncos, 26-7. Yep. The Cardinals...

lost to the Lions, and then they lost to the Commanders 42-14. Now the Seahawks lost to the Lions on Monday Night Football, and now they lose to the Giants. Wow. So Lions hangover. I think it's a real thing. So it sucks that they're on a bye week. Because we can't follow this trend right now. We can't follow the trend, but we should remember it. This is an old trend that would happen with Alabama. Actually, Brett Bielma's team in Arkansas, I would play this trend because they would just...

play like cement mixer games where they would just beat the fuck out of teams and then they would just be so beat up the next week yeah you'd go against them you got no kneecaps left after you played yeah and this is where i hank can you put in a reminder can you try to do that sure yes who do the lions play next week let's look that up on the old schedule oh yeah and then find out and then we gotta you have to remind us against them against them the week after the two-step process you got that hank

You feel good about this? So the Lions play the Cowboys next week. Okay, and then the Cowboys play. And the Cowboys play. Cowboys play. Fuck, they're on a bye. Damn it. All right, so I'm not going to count that as being part of the trend. God damn it. No, you can't.

So then they play the Vikings the week after. And then we'll have to bet against the Vikings the week after that. If the Vikings are on a buy, I'm going to fuck them. They're not. They're on a buy this week. Oh, yeah. That's right. No, then the Cowboys play the 49ers.

Yeah, I know, but the Cowboys have a bye in between the Lions and the 49ers to get healthy from playing against the Lions. Got it. It's like the Vikings are off this whole week because they went over to England. They're giving the Cowboys that whole week off because they just had to play the Lions. The Vikings play at the Rams short rest Thursday night football. Love that. Wow. Hank, please remind us to hammer the Rams. Hammer the Rams on October 24th.

Hammer. I might put that in now. Hammer. We got a look ahead line. DraftKings does have some look headlines. I don't think they have that far look ahead, but hammer them. That might be one like Cooper cups back. Puka. Yeah. Hammer. Yeah. Good for the giants. This was the first time the giants had a 100 plus passer rating for a quarterback and

100 yards plus rushing, 100 yard plus receiving receiver in the same game since 2014. Damn. Damn. It's been a minute. That's a long time. And it should have been worse because I think the Giants scored a touchdown on that fumble return. Yeah. I think the ball was on the line when it was knocked out. But for some reason, some stadiums just don't have sideline cams and show you down the goal line. I don't know. Tyron Tracy was awesome running back.

Big 10. He played for Iowa and Purdue. But he was filling in for Singletary, and he had 129 yards. Giants just had a good game plan. Dable could still coach. Did you see the funny video after Dable shutting down the Instagram live in the locker room? I did see that, yeah. It's like, that better not be posted. Yeah, that better not be live. Yeah.

Yeah, that's exactly what it is. Going live in the locker room is just such a weird move, too. It is. Especially because there's this new... What's this whole fight that's happening? So that was going to be my Who's Back of the Week. Okay, let's save it. Save it, save it. Yeah, and as for the Seahawks, I don't know if they're bad or just super, super injured, but their defense was gashed and their offense couldn't really get going until the very end. I don't really know what to make of the Seahawks. I don't think that they're bad. I think they just played the Lions. Yeah.

Yeah, but their defense is getting gashed. I mean, the Giants are not like an explosive team, and the Giants were able to move the ball up and down the field. I still don't think the Seahawks are a bad team. They have a lot of injuries. They have a lot of injuries. They have a lot of injuries. I know that. I know that for a fact. I think Seahawks are going to be in the mix. Yeah, I would agree. It's just, I don't know. Maybe when, like, it's like...

You have a guy like Gino or Sam Darnold. There's always just like a nagging piece of you that's just like, what if they're back to that version? Yeah, you're going to go back. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. You just can never get it out of your head. And I don't think Gino was – he was under pressure instantly almost. I think he got sacked seven times. And he was incredible the week before against the Lions. But there's just something in the back of your head that's just like –

don't know because we saw a lot of it yeah we submit but it fucks you up mentally yeah because like again he wasn't

I think he wasn't great today, but it was also he was pressured like crazy. And they just felt like they never had the ball in the first half, never got into a flow. DK was kind of shut down by what's his name? DK looked kind of weird today. Deontay Banks played really well. One of those weird games. But yeah, there's just something in the back of my head. I can't shake it. If either one of those guys walked out wearing their old Jets uniform, you'd be like, get them off my team. Yeah, right. What the fuck?

uh okay uh last game packers 24 rams 19 now i know the packers won and i know jordan love looks great in the second half that pick six was so fucking funny and i loved i loved it so so much it was a great one wasn't it it was it's a gunslinger it looked like he was playing for tennessee titans

Oh, I know what you're saying. Yeah. I was going to say, look, it was, it was far of ask. Yeah. But he just, he avoided getting safety because the, that was, that was also just, uh,

Perfect encapsulation of how much new rules suck because the defender didn't want to hit him too hard because you never want to get a penalty. Got bounced backwards and then just threw it up into the other defender's hands for a pick six. It's like he got knocked off balance. Yeah. It was very, very funny. He was like horizontal when he threw that too. But then he did bounce back and the backers looked very, very good until the very end when...

Somehow the Rams snuck back in this game. Yeah. You can't get rid of the Rams. The Rams are number one needed to buy. Yeah. So they got the bye week. They're one and four. They have a ton of injuries. They need to get healthy. They needed to buy very bad. I also hate to compliment the Packers in any way, but Xavier McKinney probably should be defensive player of the year if he keeps this up because he has an interception in every single game so far.

Yeah, crazy would have any good defense for you. Nuts. But the Packers deserve credit because they don't usually go out and get free agents, and they got him, and he has been very, very good. And I think, yeah, the Rams are just – it just shows like they can lose all this talent, but if you have a good quarterback and coach, you can always be in these games. And like Stafford wasn't even that great today, but –

I don't know. If they get healthy, they could maybe start rattling off some games. I'm happy they're my pinky team. Imagine if it was the Ravens. The word I would use for the Rams would be pesky. Yeah. They're pesky. You got to be ready to go. Yeah. If you let them hang around. They're a professional football team. They are. They're very much a professional football team. But yeah, the Packers, I think Jordan Love is going to, as fun as that pick six was.

I think he's starting to get warmed up and the knee injury is... He kind of did the same thing last week where the first half he wasn't looking great.

And then he got warm and everything started to get a little easier. He made some big throws. Tucker Kraft happened. That pass to Jayden Reed was sick in the first half. That was a great throw. I can admit it. I'll say it. I'll say it out loud. And they got a tight end. Tucker Kraft was very good today. Yes. Yeah. So good games all around. Just a fun football Sunday.

Fun football Sunday. Max, you want to talk baseball real quick while we wait for the Cowboys and Steelers game to finish? It is a pretty uneventful day. All right. Here, a Roback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com. Promo code TAKE. 20% off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com. Max, you're back alive. Alive. We have a pulse. So Saturday sucked for you because you were on the stream in New York.

Company man flying all the way there for just stream. By the way, after performing with Mount Joy on Friday. Oh, yeah. You guys rocked. That was sick. That was fun, Max. You guys were awesome. PFT is just as good a guitarist like anybody. That's not true. I don't know. You were just ripping it. Stevie Ray Vaughan, PFT. Yeah, that's what they say.

Max took his hair down and when he let his hair down and started headbanging, that freed me up, Max. Yeah. We fed off each other. I was like, I'm free to rock and roll now because Max is leading the way. The Mount Joy guys came by during the day. Awesome dudes. Awesome dudes. Awesome, awesome dudes. And

amazing concert like yeah if you any any awls out there go to a mount joy concert great fall music so i i wasn't able to be there because i was going up to madison to have dinner with some friends but i was listening to mount joy on the way up because they are great road trip fall music but i saw the clips i watched all the clips biggest smile on my face because it's just great seeing the boys fucking rock i think they're probably my favorite philadelphia sports fans

Yeah, and they're such cool dudes. They're the nicest guys in the world, yeah. Also, I heard a little story. Now, in Chicago, you hear about the Dave Matthews Band dumping the shit on the boat of people that were going underneath the Kedzie Street Bridge, right? Yeah, on the Chicago River. I feel like I have to educate people about something that I learned. The fact that it wasn't actually Dave Matthews' tour bus that did it.

It was their violinist tour bus that did it. And Dave Matthews, being a stand-up guy, has taken the blame for it for all these years. But it was Dave Matthews' band. His violinist had his own tour bus. But he's in the band. He's in the band. He's in the band.

And Dave probably at the time couldn't say, you know what? It actually wasn't me. It was my violin player. That would have seemed kind of weird. That guy would have been in a lot of trouble. But the fact that he hasn't said it over the years and has taken the blame for it, stand-up guy. That is a stand-up guy move. Also, full story, they emptied their septic tank on the bridge and it went on to the architecture boat tour. Yeah. Yes. I know. Yeah. Oh, memes want to reset. Yeah.

For people listening, like the fuck story. I feel like the Dave Matthews Band tour bus story is like Pete Webber. I didn't know about it until Chicago. Yeah. Until I moved to Chicago, I didn't know. It was 800 pounds of shit and piss. Yeah. The gray water. That fell onto tourists. Yeah. Terrible. I can never fucking... Terrible. Yeah. But you're Phillies. Congratulations. Yeah. Sorry. So playoff baseball. You know what? Let's talk Phillies last. Yeah.

Cardians killed the Tigers, but I think Scooble's going Monday, so they should have a chance there. Yankees struggle with the Royals, but won game one. And then we have the Padres-Dodgers series, which has all the bad blood that I love. Dodgers won game one. Padres hit 1,000 home runs game two. Fans were throwing shit onto the field. Yeah, this series is going to be awesome. Bad Sports Town? Yeah.

Max, I'll step in for you. Imagine if Philadelphia did that.

I was trying to look up who the probable pitcher was for the Tigers. What were you saying? Dodgers fans were throwing shit onto the field. That's fucked up. If that was in Philly, it would have been a disaster. But then Padres fans were throwing it back, or Padres were throwing it back, which was awesome. I like that. Yeah. They should be allowed to do that. Absolutely should be allowed to do it. Absolutely. I saw another thing. Yeah, it's Scooble on Monday. Okay. I saw a tweet. Someone said it was like,

People in the Dodgers were throwing shit onto the field, so then the Padres just started hitting home runs at the people. Yeah, yeah. It's a good one. Yeah, that is good. That also might be what I meant by throwing it back, because that's what I read the same thing, and I thought they were literally throwing it back. Oh, okay. That's probably what I was hearing. I think that's what it was. That makes more sense. I don't think they were actually throwing shit back. But it was a weird, like, long delay. Yeah. Yeah.

Who's the Padres left fielder pro far? He was talking shit after he robbed that home run, which is awesome.

And also, kind of a – Smoltz, I think, said it on the broadcast. If any fan there was wearing a glove, wouldn't happen. Yeah, good point. So you should be wearing a glove. If Harbaugh was there. Yeah. He was on a bye week, right? He was. Harbaugh's got a glove. You should have brought him to the game. He should have been there. But, yeah, and then we have the Mets and Phillies. The game one, Max, I was watching you on that stream the whole time.

It was painful to watch you because I think I saw it in your head when Schwarber hit the home run to start the game. You were like, this is going to fucking rock. Well, yeah, because in the NLDS last year, we just hit so many home runs. Right. And you were like, this is going to rock. This is how it's going to be. We're better than them. We're going to fucking hit. We're going to mash home runs. These aren't the Brewers. I think that was your exact words.

But then the light started to go out of your eyes as the game got longer and longer and Wheeler was dealing and you just weren't hitting any more home runs. And I think you knew deep down, you're like, this is setting up to the worst. And that's what happened. And then tonight, I actually think, Max, tonight might have been the shift in the series because the Mets did what they've been doing. Did I see the stat? They have 44 comeback wins this year? It's insane. Yeah.

The Mets did what they do. They were down 6-4, and they tied the game in the eighth, and you guys still, or was it the ninth? They tied in the ninth. The ninth. We had two outs to go. It was going to be like, oh, here are the Mets. This is a team of destiny. This is what they do. But you guys might have killed that.

because you staved it off and won. I don't know if we killed it, but I think that we showed that we can also be resilient. You can also be a team of destiny? Not destiny, but like... No, no, no, no, no. If you beat them, you're the team of destiny. You might have stolen destiny from them. You get team of destiny. You can't be a bi-team and be team of destiny. Yeah, you can if you beat the team of destiny.

If you beat them in a Team of Destiny type fashion, which you did tonight. That way we can always have the Team of Destiny win and we can say, hey, look, we were right. Team of Destiny. See, this way, if the Mets come back and they beat the Phillies, then they just took the Team of Destiny back from you guys. Right, and if you beat the Mets in this series, you're now the new Team of Destiny. Then let's say the Padres beat you. Now they're the Team of Destiny. I can see them being Team of Destiny too. Then they get to the World Series and...

Yankees. Guardians beat them. Guardians were always the team of destiny. See how right we were? I think really the only team that can't be the team of destiny is the New York Yankees. Yeah. I'm done listening about this. Or Dodgers. Or Dodgers. Dodgers can't be the team of destiny either, yeah. But this game was awesome. The Phillies were so dead. Like zero life on any one of that team. And then Bryce Harper hit the home run, and it was incredible. The whole team started to hit as soon as Bryce did.

Cassianos was amazing. Yeah, Cassianos, absolutely. Two drives to left, right? Well, he hit a home run. A home run. And then the walk-off single. That's what I'm saying. How did Jimmy Carter survive two deep drives to left by Cassianos? That's insane. Crazy. Nothing can kill this man. Also, earlier in the game, so Philly fans were very pissed, as you could imagine, after scoring basically one run in a game and a half. Yeah.

And... Cassianos was getting a lot of shit for swinging at balls in the dirt. Yeah. And he laid off of one and the crowd erupted because it, like, mocking him. And the camera cut to him and he was just shaking his head and saying, these fucking guys, like, talking about the fans. Yeah. And then right after that, he had, like, the best game of his career. That's all up. So all the Philly fans are being, like...

bullying works last year it was Trey Turner that you guys willed back through rounds of applause right yes this is the opposite no you applauded for him though yeah I guess it was it wasn't a it was a mocking applause yeah but still Philly applause it gets the job done

And then Max delivered an all-time showing on the stream too because he just got closer and closer to the TV to watch as the game went on. And he was just sitting crisscross, just looking like a big baby. Yeah. I mean that in like...

you're a baby. I mean, literally looking like a big baby. You're sitting baby style on the ground. Yeah, it was great. You look like a three-year-old sitting down trying to keep your attention while they do colors. Yeah, we should stick with that baby style. Baby style. That's good for you, Max. And,

People love it when Max gets like this. We haven't seen him like this in a while, but when he gets so excited and happy that he actually gets mad. I don't know if you know this about yourself, Max, but your natural reaction when good things happen to you is you get mad. You get angry at... I don't know who you get angry at. You have to be angry at somebody. Oh, he gives the hardest high fives ever. And you get the scowl on your face. He tries to hit through your hand. Yeah, you're so happy that you're extremely upset. Yeah. And I love it. Baseball is just...

There's so many moments throughout a game, and it's really tough. It's tough. You fought. Yeah, today was a good one. Today was a good one. I mean, it's still any one series. Got to take one in New York. Got to take one in New York. Well, you literally have to take one in New York. Literally, yeah. Like, if you don't take one in New York, the series is over. All right, so next game, must win. Yeah, actually.

What do you mean, actually? You lied about the other one? Sounds like you lied about it. Well, yeah, because we didn't win, and it's not over. We told you that, though. Yeah, I thought it was must-win. But now... This one's must-win. Who's on the bump? Who's on the bump? We have Nola on the bump. Oh, let's go. Is he good again? Yeah, he's good. We switched him. He normally would be our second pitcher, but our third pitcher is really bad on the road and really good at home.

So we had him pitch second at home, and then Nola. Got it. Trust Nola to go. And who do the Mets have? Mims said he thinks Minaya. Oh, okay. Max, I'm confused, though. When you said that it turns out that game one wasn't a must win because then you can come back and win another one, wouldn't that be the exact scenario that we're talking about going into this game three? No, but, like, Ranger Suarez has been pretty bad in the second half, and Nola's been good, so...

You don't want to rely on a situation where they think Rangers-Shoros will probably only go four innings, and then it's a bullpen game, and our bullpen's been really bad. So that's why tomorrow's must win. Got it. Yep, it's Nola versus Minaya. Okay, got it. Okay, we just finished the Steelers-Cowboys game. The weather delay game, it's past midnight. That was going to be the most Steelers win ever.

when who was it who knocked the ball out? That was one of the coolest goal line tackles. The linebacker, Troy Palomalo. Troy Palomalo with the haircut. One of the coolest tackles I've ever seen, but then Dak clutched up and won the game. I would say Dak clutched up twice. He clutched up by recovering that fumble. True. And then he unclutched for a second. He unclenched when he skipped that ball in about five yards short of Tolbert. Hit his receiver in the nuts off the ground. Yep.

The Cowboys took a timeout in part to let Tolbert's nuts recover. Correct. Because he was not able to walk out there. And then, yeah, found him in the end zone. Crazy ending. But, yeah, that would have been the perfect Steelers game. And it feels like the Steelers play games like this every single week where they do nothing on offense. They have, like, one or two decent drives. Yep. And their defense just plays their lights out, and they get one or two huge turnovers and win the game. And you're like, are the Steelers good? Well...

Oh, shit. Jordan Lewis, Cowboys cornerback, said Pittsburgh needs a receiver. George Pickens weak because George Pickens did try to fight the other team after the game, which was pretty stupid. Pretty standard for George Pickens. Yeah, but this does feel like the good vibe. Steelers starting 3-0. Justin Fields looked good. Kind of fell back to earth tonight because the Cowboys came in with a bunch of injuries. They were underdogs. Steelers are...

Ready to go and a winnable game that they just don't have enough offense for. Yeah. Again, couldn't run the ball. Justin Fields was not what we saw in the first three weeks. And he didn't play, like, terrible, terrible, but their offense just was tough to watch. It looked like a lot of Steelers games that we've seen. Right. It looked like a ton of Steelers games. And the Cowboys might have saved their season because if they had lost this game...

Not only would they be two and three and two games back from the Commanders, but also you would have had an entire week of C.D. Lamb, Dak Prescott discourse after C.D. Lamb. I think he yelled jump ball, jump ball after Dak Prescott discourse.

Red CDs route wrong possibly and threw an interception in the first half. And then CD lamb basically went 25 minutes without getting a target after that. Yeah. That's all we would have talked about this week. All we would have talked. And it, it, it almost went in it twice in very, very Steelers fashions. The first time when, uh,

Dak ran out of bounds at like the half yard line. Yes. And then we almost got the fumble through the end zone touchback rule to end the game. That probably would have been a more appropriate Steelers ending. Yep. Because it would have been just like a little bit weirder. But yeah, the Cowboys, they did what they had to do. Mike McCarthy wins his homecoming game.

Who was it? Was it Damian Woody that said last week, should the Cowboys start tanking? I guess not. I guess probably not through just the end of September. Are the Cowboys better without Micah Parsons? They might be better without Micah Parsons. They might be better without Micah Parsons. But it did feel like, especially because the Cowboys have coming up the Lions and the 49ers, this was a game they had to have because Lions and 49ers, especially if the 49ers get desperate, Lions off a bye, then at 49ers.

you could have been staring at a 2-5 record. Yeah, especially because then you have to play the 49ers after you played the Lions. Correct. Correct. Oh, no, that's the bye week. It's the bye week. Yeah, that's the bye week we talked about. Did you see George Pickens' eye black tonight? No. No.

Oh my God. All right, so George Pickens, he's one of my favorite players to watch in the NFL. He really is. I don't know if he's one of my favorite players, but he's... Definitely not one of my favorite players. He does just crazy shit every single week. Yeah. And this week, they zoomed in on his face for a second, and his eye black said, open fucking always across it. Oh, man.

Not always fucking open. It was open fucking always. Okay. And when I look at that, I think to myself, why did he write it like that? I think he knew that when you look at yourself in the mirror, that you're supposed to be able to read things backwards. Yeah.

So he wrote the last word first, but he didn't write the letters backwards in them. Got it. So it was just the last word first, then fucking right across the bridge of his nose. Then always. I would imagine he had someone write it for him. You don't think he put it down and then wrote it with a marker and then took the eye black off the adhesive? Maybe. That's what I think he did. Or someone on the equipment staff. But yeah. Yeah. I don't know if any team employee would have written that on his eye. They'd probably have been like, hey, Mike.

Am I allowed to write this? I think if George Pickens asks you to do anything, you probably just do it. Yeah, probably. But yeah, that's aggressive eye black for a game where I don't know what. I don't think he did much at all. It feels like George Pickens just they take a couple shots to him and either all of them miss or one of them will hit. And they're just like, holy shit. He's awesome. Yeah. Three for 26. Yeah. He also got a face mask after the end of the game.

He grabbed the Cowboys guy. He's going to get fined. Yep. That will be a fine. Also, good job, Chris Collinsworth and Mike Draco for staying up. They mentioned that like seven times. Oh, man, all the coffee that we've drank.

It's like maybe an hour later. It's football. It was an hour, hour and 15 minute delay. Yeah, you got to watch football tonight. You're fine. It was a perfect ending to a great football weekend, though. I feel so satisfied with football. Listen, we would never complain about having to stay up late. It is 1210 right now. I could use a game right now. If you told me there's a game right now, I'd be like, let's do it. I'd watch it all nighter with the boys because there's just something about a good game. It wasn't a good game, but it was a exciting game in the end.

ending where you just have that moment where you're like, fuck, I can use some more football. I could always go for another double header. Oh, guess what? We got one tomorrow night. Yeah. And we have one the next day and the next day. Yeah, that's right. 55 days.

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The NBA preseason is happening, so he has been getting his first minutes of NBA experience. Yep. It's not going well. What do you mean? And this could just be my algorithm and my anti-LeBron life that I've lived. But I saw a video that went pretty viral of just breaking down how bad he was just in the first preseason game he played in terms of spacing, passing, etc.

court everything so everything he was doing was was was bad and yeah I mean he's not an NBA player but he's on an NBA yeah I know that's it's crazy I agree with you yeah like it's it's he's bad really really bad yeah

They had a moment where they stood next to each other when they both got in at the same time tonight. It was James and then James Jr. LeBron went up to him, stood next to him with his jersey. He knew that there were cameras behind him. Yeah. But probably a pretty cool moment for LeBron. Yeah. Very cool. Does he have those moments now and they're going to get rid of him? No, he's definitely staying. How long can you keep that up? As long as LeBron's on the Lakers. It would be very funny if LeBron traded his son.

Who would trade for him? Yeah, good point. A report came out that said the Warriors wanted to take him but didn't out of respect for LeBron. Which I'm guessing came from LeBron. I think it was also LeBron saying if you draft him, he won't play for you. No, Hank's right. It was LeBron saying because he wants people to back off on the idea that he wasn't going to get drafted. So he's just going to put it out. Yeah, that was definitely LeBron reporting that. I want to see him play.

It'll be fun. Yeah, me too. Yeah. Especially if he costs him a game. That'd be crazy. That'd be really crazy. Yeah, and if LeBron controls JJ like they're saying, then that conversation is going to happen. Yeah. By the way, Hank, I know we talked college football Wednesday, but congrats. Thank you. Huge win. Thank you. Big upset. Yeah, I mean, it's always good to be the defending national champion. Did you watch it? No. But it was a big win.

It was a big one. Yeah. Your Huskies. I'm happy for my Huskies. Is there a moment that you get into college football or no? No. Okay. That's fine. I thought maybe like sometime in like when golf ends.

Yeah. Probably. Okay. No. It's been beautiful weather. It has been. It's been gorgeous. I think it's going to take the sun. You have Belichick coaching your team. If Tom Brady's son was the quarterback, then you get into it. Yeah. That would be your team. All right, PFT, your who's back. My who's back of the week is attacks on the First Amendment. Oh. Because they're trying to limit freedom of the press. The NFLPA. Yeah.

is trying to tell the media where they can and cannot go, and the place that they cannot go is in the locker room anymore. Don't we do this every few years? So it says, over the past three years, the NFLPA has tried to work with the NFL and the Pro Football Writers of America to move media interviews out of the locker rooms.

However, there has been little willingness to collaborate on a new solution. Players feel that locker room interviews invade their privacy and are uncomfortable. This isn't about limiting media access, but about respecting players' privacy and dignity. The NFL's current media policy is outdated.

We call on the NFL to make immediate changes to foster a more respectful and safer workplace for all players. In the meantime, we encourage each player to ask for interviews outside locker room during the week. So basically what's happened over the past three years is the NFLPA is like, hey, can you let us put our pants on before you interview us? Yeah. And the journalists are like, no.

Absolutely. That's when you get the good stuff. Yeah.

And so the NFLPA is now just saying, hey, if you're a naked player in a locker room, tell all the writers that you'll talk to them after you put your clothes on. Got it. Outside of the locker room. Got it. It is kind of weird that in sports we just send journalists into locker rooms when players are literally naked. And they're like, hey, now is our time to interview you.

Like, imagine if we interviewed somebody naked on part of my take. Yeah. I mean, they're not naked. There's people in the background that might be naked, but guys aren't naked. They have towels. Yeah. Towels covering them sometimes. I don't think reporters go up to them when they're naked. I think it happens. I don't know about that. I think it happens. Fully naked? I think it happens, yeah. I honestly... Part of me obviously understands, yeah, it's weird that the reporters are in there, but...

I also think that those usually get the best quotes and the raw reactions in those moments. That's true. Where it's like you'll – if everyone can compose themselves, I guess it falls on like which – what are you looking for? Are you looking for cliches and guys being able to have like 30 minutes to collect their thoughts?

Yeah, I guess that would be fair to the players, but I also kind of like when a player says something crazy right after a game because that makes for the best stories, and that's what we get to talk about. Yeah, when they're furious after a loss. Right. Or when they're very, very happy right after a win. Yeah. You get better stuff, for sure. I just think it's strange that there are people that are actually nude in the locker room, and then the reporters are just walking around them. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of people in those locker rooms, though. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I couldn't understand the debate when I saw it. I was just like, what's going on? Are we going to? Because it feels like, are they going to stop it or no? Well, they're telling all the players, if you feel uncomfortable, tell the reporter, I'll do my interview later. Got it.

But I don't think that there's any change. So the reporters still can go in there. The reporters can still go in there. And I also think, don't they give them a little bit of time before they open the locker room? I think they do. So it's not like instant. I think they give them a little bit of time, and then that's when most of the guys actually shower. Right. And then they come back from their shower and get changed. Got it. Yeah. All right. My who's back, because I didn't have one, is that I just always, I don't know, do you guys do this on Sunday nights when we leave and finish? I just look at next week's slate right away. Yeah.

You want to look at it real quick? Yeah, let's do it. All right, so we have another perfect setup of London game and then six games early and four games late, which I love. Not the best slate, but I want to point to a couple. Bucs Saints. Also 49ers Seahawks on Thursday. 49ers Seahawks Thursday. Bucs Saints. Commanders Ravens early.

Lions, Cowboys in the afternoon is going to be awesome. And then Bengals, Giants will be fun because Bengals are fighting for their life. I like that. Yeah. My who's back is always just more football. I do that every single Sunday night. I just go look through the next week, maybe even look a week ahead sometimes too, just to get excited about it. Texans, Patriots, Hank, that will be big. Huge. And then, yeah, Bills, Jets next Monday night. Get right game for you, Max. Yeah. Eagles, Browns. Baseball.

Phillies. Phillies. You Phillies just got to do it. I'm focused. Focused. Confident. My voice is also good. Yeah, you got to take a day off. You have a day off. You have a scheduled day off right now. All right. Great show, boys. Football. What a fucking week. What a weekend of football. Can't wait to talk to college football on Wednesday. Shout out, Vandy.

Shout out, Vandy. What a goal post. And that slate. I was just looking at that slate for this weekend. Oh, yeah. This is the best-looking slate of college football games maybe I've ever seen. Yeah, no. I think two weeks from now is even better. Is it better? I believe so. Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, Texas.

That's pretty good. Ohio State, Oregon is going to rock. But yeah, this, I mean, but that's the thing with college football. This week was supposed to be a bad slate and it was incredible. Yeah, this was the best weekend so far. It just went nuts. Everything went nuts. Yeah. Wait, no, that's not two weeks. That's, that's, is it two weeks or no? It's, I'm looking right now. Let's look at it. This is fun. Just looking at future football slates. Oh yeah. Oregon, Michigan.

Ohio State, Penn State. Is this where the Bama? I don't know. Ohio State, Penn State is November. I don't know what means. Here we go. October 18th, we've got Georgia, Texas. We've got Miami, Louisville. We've got Alabama, Tennessee, Michigan, Illinois, Georgia.

That's a good slate. Good slate. I think this upcoming weekend is the best slate, though. Yeah, it's going to be great. It's going to be great. All right, numbers. Five. Seven. PFT and memes, you ever gotten this? No. Eleven. No. Three. Memes hasn't gotten it anywhere, and that's not talked about enough. That's a good point, Matt. That's not talked about enough. Yeah, that's more impressive. No, you've never. What's the guy's number that got the big hit tonight? Stott? 99%.

I don't know. That's all right. Numbers are stupid. I'll go 23. Hank, what'd you guess? 747. Dang. See everyone on Wednesday. Love you guys.