NFL Week 4, Fastest 2 Minutes, The Vikings Are For Real, Do The Jets Have Problems, Joe Flacco Is Back And More
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We start in Atlanta where Kaderil Hodge brought the team on a pilgrimage to Mecca, a.k.a. the end zone, for six to start the scoring after Rashid Shaheed Wallace said, the ball don't lie in my hands. I don't want to be anyone other than what I've been as a running back lately. As Taysom One Tree Hill tried to get his team to an NFCW, but it was the Falcons with no timeouts left using the leg of...

Life is a young way. I want to kick it 58 yards long to seal the victory for Atlanta. Falcons 26, Saints 24. Whoop, whoop.

We go up to Wisconsin where the Packers got served a healthy dish of green eggs and Sam. As Donald said, I will only throw one interception today. I will throw three touchdowns past Green Bay. Justin Jefferson Davis said, you can't cover my entire route, treason. And the Vikings pass succeeded against the Packers depleted secondary. The Green Day Packers in the month two and two saying once again, wake me up when September ends.

The Vikings, 31. The Packers, 28. In Carolina, where Chupa Hubbard said, suck it, amigo, running for over 100 yards and a touchdown. The Bengals went to the ATM and took out their chase card for pay dirt as Jamar and Brown scored three touchdowns combined. David Lepper looks like he had all the Panthers' fingers and hands falling off as the Bengals win the Battle of the Jungle Cats. Bengals, 31.

Bengals 34, Panthers 24. And we head out to the air. We stay in the NFC South. The Bucks and the Eagles with our reporter Max Delenti. We head over to Tampa where the Eagles officially suck. Rashad W-H-I-T-E Goodman had the Eagles defense looking like average Joe's.

Eagles fans have had enough of Bryce not so tough as he once again had another game with no tackles and no quarterback pressures. Darius Flay got cooked all day and went on to Twitter to talk about how many fucking Pro Bowls he has. Nick Sirianni stinks. This team stinks. Bucks 33, Eagles 16. Oh, thank you, Max. That was great. Let's stick. Let's go to the AFC East with memes up in New York.

We head to Medlife Stadium where Zach Wilson wanted to soak in all the memories of days when the rain came with Robert. You can't coach. Hi, I'm Jaleel Sarah McLaughlin. Every Sunday, innocent Jets fans are abused, beaten, and neglected. And they're crying out for help. Please call the number on your screen right now to help a Jets fan today while I run all over your defense in the second half.

Great job, memes. We head over to Indy where Anthony Richardson came out looking a little grungy. And what's that sound?

Flacco, son, won't you come and wash away our pain? Flacco, son, you're not done. That was fun. Justin, how does it feel? Was like a rolling stone into the end zone scoring twice. Shane, the rise and fall of the third strike end, wins this battle of two teams that used to look up to Arians. Colts, 27. The Steelers, 24.

In Chicago, where Calibral Williams and the Bears offense got swift-voted as DeAndre had 16 John carries for 93 yards and a touchdown, DJ Moore, Moore, Moore said, how do you like it? How do you like it? As he scored to give the Bears a second-half lead, which was enough after Sean McVay went out like Moses, leaning on his staff for it. Bears 24, Rams 18. I should have said staff-ford-ord.

Bears 24, Rams 18. Out west in the afternoon. Henry Lockwood. We go down to San Jose. Jake Mad-Eye Moody. Hold up, hold up. I don't think you got the throat for that, Hank. He's okay, he's okay. He's okay. Power through, boom. Your throat's not built for it. Come on, boom. Jake Mad-Eye Moody showed he had aura in the first quarter, knocking down two field goals to get the scoring going.

Fred Kurt Warner bagged an interception, cleaned off the bone of a Jacoby Brissett throw, and he could go all the way for a defensive touchdown. Brock of House Party Knighted Sir Gregor Clegane Kettle with a mountainous dime in the fourth quarter in the end zone and the quarter of the end zone, quarter, corner, quarter. And Jordan Mason Ramsey, yodelay, yodelay, yodelay, yodelay.

His way into the end zone to cap off a 30-13 victory for the San Francisco Super 49ers. Great job, Hank. Down to Arizona where Jaden Danielson took on Cobra Kyler Murray as Mr. Jeremiagi McNichols swept the leg with two touchdowns. Bobby Wagner group might be a mercenary, but he helped the commies put a put in their ass.

Cliff King's member, Barry. Remember when he coached the Cardinals? Remember that? And then he put 42 on their head? Because I remember. Commanders, 42. The Cardinals, 14. Standing on the corner, Jameis Winston, Cuyahoga. Such a fine sight to see. It's Vegas, my lord. Don't peg us because we're sore. God damn, we hate the referees. It sucks because...

we let down old Crosby and our QB shares some trays with Bill Cosby the

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Okay, week four in the books. We're watching the fourth quarter of the Ravens-Bills game. Looks like the Ravens are all the way back. Big Cat. Yeah. I got two words for you. Yeah? You know what they are. Big D? Big D. Big D. Big D. That...

It's like a stiff arm out there, that big D. That's Skip Bayless saying, big D, Derrick Henry. Yeah. The Ravens we knew had an awesome, awesome rushing offense. Bill's rushing defense looks extremely suspect. Yeah. We kind of knew that a little bit, though, but they're getting big boyed. They're getting bullied around. Yeah, it's one of those, the Bills coming back down to earth, the Ravens ascending back to what we expected preseason after an 0-2 start. There also is just nothing...

more intimidating than the Ravens going all blacks in on a Sunday night game at home. It's just, it's something about it. Under the lights, the all black uniforms are amazing. They should never wear the all blacks in the, in the light of day. Yeah. It adds like, uh, five points of strength to every player. Yeah. There is like some studies that have been done that show, uh,

that teams that wear red are more intimidating. And like overall, they tend to win more. That might have been skewed because at the time the study was done, I think Man United was like rolling off six EPLs or whatever it was. And the Chiefs in Georgia. And the Chiefs, yeah, and Georgia. But yeah, the all-black uniforms, if they're on a good team, they make that good team better. Yes, I agree. I agree. Also, Lamar Jackson is good now that he's no longer a fat ass like apparently he was last year. Yeah, he's Slenderman.

And he's killing it. And yeah, Derrick Henry is, I mean, he's seven-yard touchdown. I did not think Big D had an 87-yard touchdown still in his bag. That's the crazy part is he weighs, what, like 250 pounds maybe? Yeah. And nobody could catch him. No one could catch him. No one could chase him down. It was shocking. Yeah. So we'll put a bow on it when the game goes final, but the Ravens dominate.

And it was one of those nights where Josh Allen was not... He wasn't fully Chris Josh Allen. And we had the disaster play where everything went wrong when they looked like they were going to get back in the game and they didn't. What even was that play? It was like he was out wide and then they lateraled it to him. They got cute with it is what they did. They got way too cute with it. They lateraled to him. He tried to bomb it. He got strip sacked. And then he also got a dome piece to the dome piece. Yeah, dome piece to the dome piece. All right, so... Let's start with...

hand up. I was wrong. Oh, Derek Henry just fumbled into the end zone and I don't know what the pile is. All right, we'll stop updating this game, but I was wrong. I thought that the Packers would win this game. Vikings 31, Packers 29. I am now officially ready to take the Vikings for real. I needed this win for them to take them fully for real and Sam Darnold,

Maybe he's just different now because the game started and he tried to throw an interception on like the second pass of the game. Someone just dropped it on the Packers. He threw it right at him.

And then from that point forward, I think he started like 10 of 13, 130 yards and three passing touchdowns. And they were up 28 to nothing in a blink of an eye. Yeah, he was doing this without Addison and without Hawkinson. He got Addison back. And having Addison out there makes a big difference for that offense. Yes. I actually think that the Minnesota Vikings are, I'm going to say it.

They're for real. They are for real. I heard a couple people. I heard some national, some talking heads, Teddy Bruschi, saying this is going to be a true colors game for Sam Darnold, where he's going to show his true colors and go back to being old Sam. He is anti-Sam-etic. I am not anti-Sam-etic. I believe in Sam. I believe more so I think it's a perfect fit for him. Yeah, the receivers are incredible. Sam Darnold is...

Mm-hmm.

Season end today MVP. Because going into tonight, it was like Josh Allen. It was Josh Allen, Nico Collins. I think you have to talk about Jaden Daniels. Jaden Daniels.

Jaden Daniels, that's why you did this. That's exactly why he did this. I didn't think about it. That's exactly why he did this conversation. Not true, but once I started going with it... I fell for the trap. Touche. Once I started going with it, I realized, wait a second, wait a second. It's completely... Well done. Listen, it's foreign to me to have somebody that I could say that about that wouldn't be considered utter jokes. So I'm not planning... I don't know enough about how to act like I've been there before because I've never been there before. So I'm not laying traps for anybody. But I thought...

But it's a good trap. It was a good trap. But I think Sam Darnold would be in that conversation. This is good because Max is starting to get a little angry. I think he'd be lower than James Daniels, though, now that you bring it up. Well, Sam Darnold... That's a good point, Hank. Sam Darnold is the first QB... It makes a lot of sense. He's the first QB to win, to start 4-0 and have at least two passing touchdowns in each of his first four starts. That's crazy. He's been playing incredible. Justin Jefferson is a maniac.

Not even the touchdown catch that he caught with one hand against his chest. The catch he made at the end of the game, I think it was late fourth quarter, along the sideline, Sam Darnold kind of led him too far.

I don't understand the guy. His body control is so out of this world to get that extra foot down. He's just so, so good. He's so much better than everyone else. And again, not taking anything away from Sam Darnold, but Justin Jefferson is just that special. And this game was, they jumped all over him. My question for you, PFT, is does Malik Willis win this game? So that's a good question, Big Cat. Thank you. Because I've come the other way around. Now I think that Malik Willis is the best fit for that offense.

Jordan Love, I think, came back a little too soon. Yeah. I think he's rushing himself a little bit. He probably saw Malik out there, and he's like, I don't want to lose my job to Malik Willis. But I'll tell you what, in terms of Jordan Love, I think we should turn it over to somebody who's actually been there before, walked a mile in those shoes to hear his thoughts, because Jordan Love got open-lettered after the game. Dear Jordan, just a reminder that one game, one play, or one pass doesn't define you. Way to show resilience today.

You have a long career ahead. Just keep going forward. Number four. Oh.

So he wore a Brett Favre jersey going into the game today. He also, in a touching tribute to Brett Favre, was the first Packers quarterback to have four touchdowns and three interceptions since Brett Favre last did it in 1999. That's amazing. That's pretty cool. That is cool. That's a touching tribute. And also, like Brett Favre, he wasn't looking out for his own welfare today because he rushed himself back too soon. Too soon. The...

Remember we used to joke about the Joshua Rosen stat line where he would go like 12 for 17 for 103 yards. Yep. Jordan Love and no touchdowns, no interceptions. Jordan Love had whatever the opposite of that is. He had the fullest day possible. He went 32 for 54, 389 yards, four touchdowns, three picks. Yeah, there we go. You felt him.

There we go. You felt his presence in the game. It was good to see him back out there. No, he got hot in the second half. I mean, the end of the game, he was red hot. The second half was all Packers. Yeah. It was all Packers. So the Vikings were happy that they built up, what was it, a 28-0 lead? 28-0, like instant. And then there was, was it a muff punt? So many muff punts today. Yeah. Muff punts left and right. But at the end of the half, the Packers got a score and...

Then it was all Packers after that. Shout out Matt LaFleur, who actually did the correct thing and went for two down 14. Yes, yes. He was big on the math today. So it was a closer game than we're probably making out to seem. But I still think that Sam Darnold, he's a big reason why this Vikings team is where they're at. They have probably the best weapons of any team in the NFC. But also, he's done a great job. And there's something about a quarterback that has to go through such absolutely shitty situations where...

where when they finally get to a place that's steady, they just love it so much more. And so Sam Darnold's seen some shit in his career. He's seen some real shit with Adam Gase, then with the Panthers, and then he kind of got nursed back a little bit. Foster home. He got foster home by Kyle Shanahan. Now maybe this guy's forever home. He...

I'm sure we'll have one game where old Sam Darnold will come back, but I do believe in Sam Darnold going forward. Yeah. I do. I do. I mean, they're playing great ball. Their defense is great. They blitzed to great effect against Jordan Love today. As for the Packers, yeah, I think you rushed Jordan Love back. You should have done that. You might have. Also, the Packers were down two great corners. They were. They were. And Jair Alexander...

He likes playing against Justin Jefferson. I feel like Justin Jefferson beats everyone. So that's not really a shot at Jair Alexander. But that was a big piece of the Packers playing really good defense in the first three weeks of the season under Jeff Halfley. But Jordan Love?

I hope he didn't find his groove. I think he found his groove. I think that fourth quarter he found his groove. That makes me scared. He looked better, for sure, in the second half. If the season did end today, I would say Kevin O'Connor will probably coach of the year. Kevin O'Connor.

Kevin O'Connell. O'Connell. O'Connell. You nailed it the first time. Kevin O'Connell coach of the year. Probably, yes. I'm trying to think. I think going into today, you could have made an argument for Matt LaFleur. Andy Reid, maybe. Andy Reid's still pretty good. Yeah, but that's the thing. You can't be dominant and win coach of the year. Todd Bowles. And they just had the refs. Maybe Dan Quinn. He's trapping us again. He's trapping us again. If the season ended today, would the Commanders be in the playoffs?

Yeah, they'd actually win the division. There you go. Isn't that interesting? That is interesting. Good fact. Okay, next game. Do we have anything else on this game? Oh, one thing I got right about this game was an offseason thought. Aaron Jones is really good, and I don't know why that triangle happened. Yeah, very strange. I said it in the time. I was like, I understand Josh Jacobs is good, but Aaron Jones is a really good running back, and he proved it today. He had like 139 yards total.

And, yeah, he's good. It was sad he didn't get to do the Lambeau leap because he was going to try to do it if he scored. I think he might have done it after the game, but that's a different Lambeau leap. How much is Aaron Jones getting paid? He's getting paid one year $7 million. And how much is Josh Jacobs being paid? Let's find that out. He only gets $7 million a year? Yeah, that's what I just saw. Running backs, man. Josh Jacob is getting paid $14.5 million. No, four-year, $48 million. So $12 million a year. I don't know.

Aaron Jones for seven? Yeah, would you rather have... I guess they didn't want to give him a long-term deal. Josh Jacobs are like one and four-fifths Aaron Joneses.

Tough call. That's why we're not – Aaron Jones is 29 years old, so that does complicate things. Like you can't – I think that was part of it is Josh Jacobs is 26. You can give him a four-year deal that you could probably cut him after two years. Aaron Jones, he probably wanted more years, and that's hard for a 29-year-old running back. Yeah, I still think – I mean, Aaron Jones, he was good last year. He's been good in Green Bay his entire career. Yeah. Okay, next up.

Falcons 26, Saints 24. This is a game the Saints are really, really going to be kicking themselves if they're sitting outside the playoffs at the end of the year because they held the Falcons to zero offensive touchdowns and still lost 26-24. Yeah. It's tough to do. The last time that a team lost a game when they scored 24 points or more and gave up zero offensive touchdowns, any guesses? Never. No.

No, it's happened before, but the last team that did it was in 1983. You have to go all the way back to 1983. Okay.

And it was the Saints. It was also the Saints. The Aints. And we've got a new big stats are for losers guy. Raheem Morris dropped a stats are for losers on the press after the game. They asked him how come Kyle Pitts didn't get involved at all, which he didn't. I don't think he had a single reception. I don't think he had a single yard. And he said, you know, in my opinion, stats, they're for losers. I honestly think, well, I love that, by the way. We always need more stats are for losers coaches out there. I think that

You could convince me that somehow Arthur Smith's game plan was left in Raheem Morris' office this morning. And there was just an old game plan from last year that he picked up. Because Bijan only had two rushes in the second half. Yeah. And Tyler Algier had like eight. Yeah, Tyler. They said it was a hot hand with Rock, so they kept going to him. Which he kind of was. It was seriously like last year's Falcons. It was like, what is happening right now? I was starting to buy...

And the Falcons won this game. But I was starting to buy into the Falcons are fun. This is different than last year. Like, this is going to be a lot of fun. It's not going to be a bummer. Kirk Cousins is a significant step up from Desmond Ritter. But, yeah, I was like, what's going on? Their offense just didn't look good today. But special teams and a pick six. Did it for them. I can guarantee you if Desmond Ritter played this game, they would have lost. Yeah, I'd agree. He probably would have screwed it up more than Kirk Cousins. Is he on a team?

Was he on the Cardinals? I think he was, but then I don't think he made the roster. Did he get cut? I think he was. That's never a good thing. Oh, no. Yeah, he's on the Cardinals. All I want to know from the Falcons, where was this performance? Where's this defense during Arthur Blank commemorative cup night? Yeah.

Seriously. Well, it was there. The Chiefs just stole it from him. You can't show up for your owner on commemorative cup night? This is a ball bounces game for me where, like, the... Or a ball don't lie. The Chiefs game, the Falcons probably played to a level they should have won. This game, the Saints probably played to a level they should have won, but the Falcons won it. So it kind of evened out. But now...

Who would you say... So, Bucs are obviously one. Yep. And they just played, but going forward, do you believe in the Falcons more than the Saints? I tend to think that. I don't know. I don't know. I think they're very, very even. So, when this game is played in New Orleans later on this year, I think the Saints... Right now, the entire...

series between these two teams it's now 56 55 for the falcons perfect so life finds a way i feel like the saints will win the next one but they're very i don't want to say they're similar teams but i think they're equally sneaky lucky good let me throw this out there for you uh saints hot start looked awesome have to compliment the two and oh the way they did it uh bryce young

Panthers, maybe one of the worst teams of all time. Bryce Young Panthers. Different team. Not Andy Dalton Panthers. And the Cowboys might not be that good. The Cowboys might stink. So 2-0. Can't apologize for 2-0. It was an impressive 2-0. But they just found a way in both these games, the last week with the Eagles and this week with the Falcons, where...

Their defense played well and they just couldn't find a way to win. So the offense that we were saying, like, holy shit, it's changed everything. It's like, where is that? After week two, we were crowning their asses. Oh, you have to. Yeah, it was a good two and oh, the most dangerous lead in hockey, though. Listen, if we're ever going to rename this podcast, it would just be the knee jerk podcast.

because whatever happened two hours ago is the thing that I think is going to keep happening for the rest of time, and then I'm shocked when something different happens. Yeah, that's a fact. So Kirk had the quote of the day, I think, after the game was over. They talked about the rivalry. It was his first experience in a Saints-Falcons game, which...

I saw like four or five videos of fights in the stands. Yeah. These were different fights. Yeah. There was head stomping going on. Yeah. There was like some brutal shit that might've been Falcon on Falcon crime. Well, you also have to remember that now that Arthur blanks name is up in the rafters, you have to put on for your owner. He's watching. You have to defend that house. God is watching. Yeah. Arthur blank is watching you fight and try to bash someone's brain in, in the 300 level of the Mercedes Benz. Don't. Yeah. So they, they asked Kirk cousins about the rivalry afterwards.

and they said, did you hear them when they were playing swag surfing? Yeah. And Kirk said, yeah, they're playing that song about the swag, the surf. I was like, this is pretty sweet. It's exactly what I expected. Yeah, perfect. Perfect answer from Kirk Cousins. There should be a travel show where Kirk Cousins just gets to experience like Atlanta culture and just watching him do it. Yeah, I would watch that every day of the week. Sort of Magic City. Who do the Saints have next week?

Let's find out. Let's play Whose Line Is It Anyway? Can you give it to me, Hank? Can you give it to me? You got it? Who do they got? Hank, you should just be on constant Whose Line Is It Anyway duty. The Chiefs. Oh, where? Oh, wait. No, they might have a bye. Oh. Their next game is against the Chiefs at Kansas City. I forgot we have byes. Monday, October 7th, bro. Yeah, Monday, October 7th, bro. Come on, bro. Bad math. At the Chiefs? Yeah. Saints at Chiefs.

Chiefs minus five. I'm going to say Chiefs. Oh, four and a half. Six and a half. Final answer? Four and a half. It's Chiefs minus five and a half. All right. I am actually surprised. When I said six and a half, I thought to myself, that's too high, you dummy. But I would think that it would be lower than that, given the injuries for the Chiefs. That's why I went five to four and a half. Yeah. Okay. The model.

Our advanced analytical model in our brains. Knowing these two franchises, I'm just going to take Chiefs Moneyline. Just let the chips fall with it, man. It feels like Saints might cover, but Chiefs Moneyline. Yeah, I can't. I don't think I can picture the New Orleans Saints playing in Kansas City. Has that ever happened in the history of the NFL? There's so many matchups that you obviously know, but this one is one...

Where it's like, wait, this doesn't make sense. Yeah, like have the Jaguars ever played the Giants? No. In London. Maybe, yeah. In London, for sure. Yeah, for sure. But yeah, the Saints at the Chiefs. I'm trying to think...

There's a game. Can you find it? 2016 was the last time. Whoa. Okay, well, I guess that makes sense. That's probably as long ago as it's possible, yeah. Yeah, I shouldn't have acted surprised. That's exactly how schedules go in the NFL. Every eight years you play at the other team's stadium. Okay, next game. What do you have, Hank? You had something for us? No, you're right. The eight years. Wait, 2016. They also won in 2000. Who are the quarterbacks? Was it Alex Smith and Drew Brees? Yeah.

Yeah, that was easy. Drew Brees, Alex Smith. That was a dum-dum thing to say. Okay, next up, Bears 24, Rams 18. Bears might be back. Congratulations. Thank you. Felt good. Yeah. I'm going to agree with you, Big Cat.

The Bears offensive line is bad. Yeah. It's bad. Really bad. So, Caleb, when he's dropping back to pass, he is having to make a decision within like half a second of whether he's going to have to run backwards, get rid of the ball earlier, or maybe, just maybe, they're going to hold up for enough time for him to hit somebody on a slant. It's pretty crazy. He had a clean game, no interceptions, had some really nice... The throw to DJ Moore was awesome. The throw to Cole Komet over the middle was awesome. He's...

69% completion percentage the last two weeks. Moving forward, 93.7 rating. My big thing is apparently during the week, players had a basically intervention with Shane Waldron and said you have to be more aggressive. Good. Caleb Williams, Mercedes Lewis, I think Cole Komet was there. Be more aggressive.

They had to have that with their coach? Their offensive coordinator, yes. Yeah, it's good times. Hey, listen. You have negatively affected my career in the following ways. Here's the thing, Hank. Put it into perspective, okay? This is all about perspective.

Our offensive coordinator hasn't had to leave the team and be fired slash resigned from the team. And then there's reports that the FBI is staking out his house, which happened last year with our defensive coordinator around this time. So these are baby steps. He's still here. Because I was about to say that. That's kind of a bad thing, though. No, it's a good thing. You want him. I do want him gone, but I don't want... I'd rather our coordinators not have to resign...

And be suspected of crimes. Big Cat doesn't want to have guys in windbreakers walking into houses. But if you could get him out on a crime, you would probably take it. Yes. Yes. I assume that depends on what kind of crime. Yes. Also, yes. He put me under the gun there. Yeah. That wasn't fair. But yeah. Because I was about to say, I'm glad they had the intervention because I think that Caleb might be reaching the point...

where he needs to just like take bad play calls and be like fuck this guy i'm not running this play he did that a couple times today yeah as a rookie it's hard to reach that place especially he wants to be like a good quarterback he wants to be somebody that's easy to work with so he probably doesn't want to fuck with anybody right off the bat but it was so bad at the start of the season that he at some point needs to say like we're not going to do what this guy says they actually do give him like like a lot of autonomy at the line and he's calling stuff and getting out of stuff um

The other thing is the Bears actually could run the ball today. DeAndre Swift turns out to make DeAndre Swift good again. We just had to have an entire week of the entire internet saying the guy fucking sucks. Yeah, bullying works. We got Reggie Bush's Heisman back, and now DeAndre Swift is running to open daylight. Yeah, he had more yards today than he had weeks one through three combined. And he had a nice touchdown run. Also, Shane Waldron realized that, hey...

This is where I say baby steps. He's learning from his mistakes. Last week when we had the abomination of goal line where we did a pitch play to the short side on fourth down and we ran everything out of shotgun and wildcat. This week, we actually ran from under center and

With our backup center running his fullback and Roshon Johnson, who's a big back, running it running back, and it worked. That was an awesome block, by the way. Yeah. Doug Kramer. That dude just took him out. Is he from Chicago? I think he might be from the Chicago area. Yeah. I mean, he was like... Basically, he doesn't get in unless there's kneel downs. He's like, I fucking just want to help the team. Yeah. He looks like a long lost... Yeah. He's from Hinsdale. He looks like a long lost O'Doyle twin. Yeah. Just a big dude with a big round face coming at you downhill. And I think...

The key to DeAndre Swift is don't make him change direction in the backfield on a cut.

If he can be hitting a hole going straight, in a perfectly straight line, through a hole, then he'll just outrun and take better angles than everybody in the secondary. But don't ask him to juke out a defensive lineman. He can't do that. Also, the Bears have back-to-back touchdown drives today. Progress. The Rams are very, very injured, and I kind of expected the Bears to win this game just because...

You had the kitchen sink game last week, and I gave that stat on Friday. Teams that come back and win a game down 14 in the second half, they're just terrible against the spread. So the defense stepped up and stopped Stafford with strips, a fumble, a pick at the end. I was just happy. It was fun watching the Bears win at home, and we haven't even gotten to the real MVP of this game, Torrey.

Torrey Taylor, who is a fucking weapon. That one punt, I think I clocked it at 85 yards in the air. He won this game for the Bears in the end because at the end of the game, when you have to, you know, we're up less than a touchdown and you're trying to get your, you know, you can't get first downs, can't run the ball, don't have a good offensive line. You need to keep giving them long fields and hoping that your defense will stand up. He had five punts.

three of them inside the 20, and then he had the one in the fourth quarter, a 66-yard punt to the eight-yard line. You can't go wrong getting a punter from Iowa or a tight end from Iowa. Yep. There's two things they do well there. Yeah, but he is an absolute weapon. Like, I'm...

I don't want to punt, but I'm excited to see how far he can punt every time he punts. And that punt that checked up was the thing of beauty, too. Yeah. The backspin on it. Put the English on it. He's a weapon. It was nice to watch. How do you like that, Hank? You got a punter now. What? No, I'll wait. I want you to finish. Okay. I was just going to say, Meme said something shocking to me today. He said, it's so funny.

Sean McVay can only coach well against Kyle Shanahan. Yeah. And I was like, wait, wait a second. It's the opposite. It's the opposite. And also, Sean McVay is a really good coach. Yeah. He won a Super Bowl. That aren't Kyle Shanahan. Yeah. Memes? He won a Super Bowl, memes. He's been to two. I know, but this season.

Oh, so if the Rams only two wins were against the 49ers this season, it would be very funny. Okay, so you should have said small sample size PFT, but it is funny that Sean McVay can only coach against Kyle Shanahan this season. He didn't have any more plays. He used all his plays last week. He used everything. The man was playlist. He had no kitchen. He had everything but the kitchen sink. Yeah. Or no. Yeah. He could restock the sink out of the socket and throw it out.

Sinks go in sockets, yeah. The only thing he had. Sinks are sockets. You plug in a sink? Sinks are socket-based. I said that on Thursday. I got a lot of people like, fucking idiot. Sinks don't go in sockets. Oh, the plumber's out there? Came after you? Yeah, no, he still had the kitchen sink. That's the thing. Yeah, but he had nothing else. The kitchen sink can't score touchdowns. Right.

You just wash your hands. Or piss in it. Hank, I finished. After the game, the Bears tweeted out, which I agree with, as someone who is an advocate for the double fist pump celebration. Oh, yeah. Did you see this? There was a clip of Caleb Williams walking off the field. He was doing the double fist pump. And I tweeted it. I've caught into non-Barstool AWL Twitter because people are like,

The guy can't even celebrate you're coming at him. But then a lot of people trashing him, saying this is like a yippee-ki-yay-ass celebration. Yippee-ki-yay. Your thoughts. As someone who roasted someone for the double fist pump, Sully. Yeah, for some reason it was cool when he did it. I don't know. It just feels different when he did it versus when you did. I see a commonality between the two.

Both winners. Yeah, winners. Winners. We wouldn't know about that because we haven't won anything. But yeah, Hank's all over that. No, it looked awkward. You can't do the double fist pump and not look awkward. It's impossible. It's kind of like a six-year-old. Yeah. A six-year-old. Hey, guess what sport? We're going for ice cream. People are watching the podcast right now.

Yeah. It's raw emotion. That's what it is. You can't control your body. But that's raw emotion usually looks bad. Like when you do something that is very... Well, it looks bad if you're an athletic. Usually when like a cool guy does it. When you do something that's very like animalistic, it's usually not a good thing. Yeah. The thing about it is it's the jumping into the double fist pump that looks awkward. The double fist pump, that's a cool move. Anybody can do that. But when you take like a leap in

into it and then in midair you start doing the fist pump. It looks a little weird. It needs to basically stay like you're using shake weights. Yeah, where it's like a almost a flex in a double fist pump but when you go like that

Yeah, and PFT's right with like jumping and extending at the same time. Which is what you did as well. Maybe if you thought about next time you try to dunk, just think about jumping and doing double fist pump. That might work. Hey, I got a question. Yep. Question of the week. Question of the week. Actually, you know what? Roback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com. Promo code TAKE. 20% off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback dot com. Promo code TAKE. 20% off your first purchase. Why don't you talk about dunking anymore?

Oh, good question. Thank you. I'm training. But why haven't you brought up dunking? Because you were very much gung-ho, I'm going to dunk, and I haven't heard you have any sort of confidence in like three months. Did you think we'd forget? I have not forgotten. I have trained. Max, please, roll back question. I have a question as well. Yeah, yeah. Go ahead, Max. Roll back question.

At what point do we start to think about shooting? Oh, because what was the thing you had to do to shoot? No, I'm still thinking about dunking. I've trained four days a week for the last five weeks. I forget. It was like 25 threes in a row. Hank's had really bad takes about shooting recently, Max. Yeah, true. I did an evaluation at my gym at the end of August, and it was bad.

Not as much progress as I had hoped, so I said I'm going to keep my head down. I've trained hard for the last five weeks. I haven't checked since, but I'm still going gung-ho. I still plan to dunk. I'm still training as if I'm going to dunk. I have not stopped. Just because I haven't talked about it, I have not stopped. I still think I'm going to do it.

PFT, rollback question, extension. Yeah, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Hank, PFT commenter, part of my Take Podcast. You had alluded to this being the time of year where if you weren't making the progress that you wanted to, you would turn to the dark needle of steroids. Have you begun doing that or is it something that's in your imminent future? So, again, I haven't talked about it because I don't... Talk about steroids. I don't want to get ahead of myself.

I mentally had a bad evaluation at the end of August. I've gone hot for the last five weeks. I'll probably check again in the beginning of October. And then depending where I'm at is when. So the steroid decision is coming in the next two weeks. Okay. Just look at the calendar. Big guy, this might pertain to your question as well. It's September 30th on Monday. 30 days have September. It is, in fact, October this week. Correct.

So we're moving that timetable up. What are you talking? I just said I. You said a couple weeks. In the next couple weeks. Big cat. Robot question. Robot question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com. Henry, when you say the words, I had a bad evaluation, how far away are you from dunking? Six inches. Oh. That's a big six. Yeah. Six inches. Six inches from dunking or six inches from the rim? Six inches from dunking.

You think I'm six inches from the rim standing up? Six inches isn't that big. He's a beast. Six inches. So six inches in three months? Yeah. Oh, boy. Hopefully I've gotten two. Oh, boy. We got to get on the steroids. Hopefully I've gotten two in the last month. It's got to be steroids time. That was at the end of August. Can you touch the rim? Yes. Yes, you can. You can. I've seen it. I've witnessed it. Okay. Oh, boy. Can you even fucking jump, dude? Yeah, man. Yeah. That's about me. Hank, you...

Raise your hand next time. Yeah, raise your hand. Max, is that a triple XL or a quad XL? Oh, shit. You're fucking swimming it. If it's a triple or a quad, make sure it's rowback.com. This is a two. That's mean, Hank. This is a two. I mean, did you see the shirt he's wearing today? It's an oversized. Stand up, Max. I want to see it. Hank, don't. It's an oversized fitting shirt.

Oh, that's not bad. It's a big shirt. It's like a muumuu. Hey, don't talk about what you think the last thing that he dunked was. It's a 2X. You want to see it? You want to come and look at it? I believe you. Yeah, you want to see the tag? I believe you. All right, so are you going to start shooting? No, not yet. Okay. I'm going to dunk. I'm going to dunk. I've never trained harder for anything in my life. Golf?

I was going to say like SATs or like then I realized no chance. I cheated on my SATs. Yeah. How'd you cheat? I was in my homeroom. I knew the person that was moderating at the teacher, so I knew he wasn't going to like bust me. I couldn't focus after the first like whatever hour, two hours was so fucking long. And I knew the girl that was diagonally in front of me.

She was way smarter than me. I had like enough time and I wasn't worried about getting like caught in trouble because I knew the guy at worst would just be like, hey, you know, put your head back down. So I was able to just read her whole test and I made the decision. I was like, I'm pretty sure we have the same test. I'm just going to copy all our answers for the Scantron like multiple test part. And if I'm wrong, I'll do the SATs again because everyone else usually does them multiple times.

I think 1,500 was average at the time. I got a 1,450. Was perfectly good with that. Never did them again. Was there a writing part? Yeah, but for the multiple choice...

Like, I just got, I couldn't do it anymore. And I was just like, was able to read all of her questions. I was like, I'm pretty fucking sure we had the same test. Think smarter, not harder. Yeah. When did they change the fort? Just kidding, Mom. Because I feel like, oh, yeah. It was just a prank. And so was the steroids. That was a prank, too. Yep. This is actually the Roback prank section of the show. All right. Just got gronked. That was our bears. There's going to be people who are going to see the timestamps and be like, fucking talked about the bears for so long.

Actually, half of it was just steroids and Hank. It's a good win, though. Yeah, it was a good win. Feels good. Feels good. And we have some schedule...

I'm not going to say schedule wins. It's hard to win in this league. But the Bears have some games coming up that they should potentially win, most notably Panthers, Jaguars, no longer Commanders, and then Cardinals, Patriots. So four out of the next five, they should be able to... This should be a three-and-two, four-and-one type stretch, hopefully. I think that's realistic. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

Colts 27, Steelers 24. Joe Flacco. Flacco's back, baby. Flacco's back big time. Before we get to Flacco, who was good, big third down throws. Like, Joe Flacco just a third down, like third and 10. Give me Joe Flacco. Mm-hmm.

Is Shane Steichen trying to get Anthony Richardson hurt? So what happened was he got injured the play before he got injured. He got injured with a hip oblique, came out for a couple snaps, came back in, and Shane Steichen was like sick.

Yeah. For a guy that gets a lot of credit being a great play caller, that seemed like it was, it was like a little bit intentional. He came back in for a QB run, took a shot to the head. Was it a concussion that put him out? I know. I think it was a hip oblique. Oh yeah. Oh, the concussion after. Yeah. The second hit that he got. I don't know, but I think there might've been a conspiracy to have Joe Flacco in. Um,

which I'm for because Joe Flacco should be playing in the NFL. Joe Flacco said after the game, very funny, he said they asked if he thinks that Anthony Richardson thinks he's cool. He said, I'm eight days older than his mom, so there's no way he thinks I'm cool. Yeah. A little perspective for you. I like that. Joe Flacco, in my opinion, he is cool. Yeah. Joe Flacco is the coolest. He looked good. He still has that arm. And if you're a Browns fan, what the fuck are you... The Cleveland Browns have run...

Joe Flacco going out there and winning this game, Baker Mayfield being dominant at the exact same time. If you're a Browns fan, you're watching this early slate, and you're like, what the fuck? Yeah. Why did we keep doing that? Why did we... And you have Jameis. Yeah, you got Jameis. And you have Jameis. But yeah, Joe Flacco like outs...

Obviously, the RPOs are big for, and Anthony Richardson's legs are a big part of his game. But in terms of the deep bombs, Joe Flacco. Flacco uncorked one today. It almost hit the roof. I think it might have touched the roof. Granted, it was underthrown by like three yards, which was kind of the Joe Flacco special. He had a couple of those deep underthrows.

where you draw past interference. But this one that he threw, it came down with a teardrop of God on it. It went so high up in the air and just arced down. It's a beautiful thing. He's aged like a wine. Yeah. It's beautiful. And it was tough for Anthony Richardson because he actually came out, and his first drive was really good. Like, I think he went right down the field on the Steelers and then got hurt. But, yeah, I...

I don't know. The Steelers' defense I talked about on Friday that I feel like we've maybe crowned them a little bit too early. They're very good, but they also played some not great quarterbacks, and now they have to play Joe Flacco. He won a Super Bowl. He's elite. He knows the Steelers. He knows the Steelers. So in a weird twist of fate, Justin Fields, who I think has played well in the first three weeks—

Maybe not incredible, but the defense carried him.

This week, the defense faltered and Justin Fields had his best game. Yeah, there were some times when he did not look that good. He was like really, really, it was patchy for him. There were some times when he, like around the goal line when he can just run and knock one dude over on his way into a touchdown, he's still very good at that and he still can make more throws, I think, than the Steelers have seen recently. Yeah, I mean, he had 312 yards. Yeah, but there were some stretches of the game where it looked a little bit dicey for him. He was like double clutching a lot.

Big windup, taking too much time in the pocket. But overall, he was not the problem today. I think the Steelers' defense, I want to be careful with how I say this because we like T.J. Watt, and he's a dominant player, one of the best defensive players in the NFL today.

He loves to just go immediately to where he thinks the quarterback's going to be on a five-step drop. Yeah. Like, he leaves a pretty big gap there sometimes that you can just exploit and run through. Oh, wow. JJ is going to be happy with this. I said this to Jersey Jerry. No, no, no. JJ Watt. Oh, JJ Watt. You say you don't know ball. Two JJs are going to come out. He's going to say, yeah. You're going to get double JJ. Listen, I can take on JJ Watt, maybe not Jersey Jerry if he's pissed off. But TJ, he leaves a big gap there sometimes. Yeah, I think he bought a gun.

J.J. Watt? No. Jersey Jerry. No, he didn't. Yeah. He's got a red dot on it. Put a red dot on it. He's got the red dot going. Yeah. Also... So one of the weirdest things to just walk in and him just being like, yeah, I got a gun. Yeah. Okay. He was like, if I just showed it to Jack on a stream, do you think I'd get suspended? Yeah.

And I was like, yeah, maybe. I'd rather not have a handgun on the stream. Yeah, but he's got permits, so it's all good. Also, George Pickens had one of the dumbest fumbles I've ever seen. He just kind of twisted around, and he kept the ball outstretched for no reason. It got knocked out, easy fumble. He also extended the ball at one point on, like, the 25-yard line as he was being tackled. He'd already gotten a first down by a significant margin, by, like, 5, 10 yards. And he extended the ball to get, like,

extra yard in the open field as he was being tackled. Yeah. With Pickens,

He also had a bad drop, but it's reached the point where I would not be shocked if at some point in his career, George Pickens made like a one-handed leaping grab, got turned around midair, sprinted the wrong way, scored a safety, and then got a taunting penalty celebrating before he realized it wasn't a touchdown. I wouldn't put it past him. He just does crazy shit every week. He's fun to watch, and he's just... He's an insane talent at wide receiver, but this guy is nuts. Yeah. So...

Do you think the Colts are going to roll with Joe Flacco for a while?

They might be. Listen, Joe, I said he's like a nice wine. Not in that he's aging, but even if you don't like whites, you have to admit he's cool and he's refreshing. Yes, he's very refreshing. I would like to have Joe Flacco play a little bit, maybe get the Colts to play. What if Joe Flacco just, like the last half of his, or last three years of his career, he just goes to random organizations and takes them to the playoffs? That would rock. Are we going to have a...

Andy Dalton Joe Flacco matchup at some point this season let me look I do not think so that would have been awesome that would have been so good that would have been that basically like just we're just going in a time machine yeah at that point that's an excuse for us to be like see we're not old yeah Joe Flacco and Andy Dalton still going at it yeah throwback yeah just watching 2012 2013 Russ was dressed out again

And he was not active. Wearing eye black. Yep. He wore the eye black on the sidelines today. Russ is just... That was the only thing I was happy for for Justin Fields. They lost the game, but it was not his fault. So they didn't have to... The Russ stuff doesn't start happening. Because Justin Fields is better than Russell Wilson. He is. I think so. Maybe Russell Wilson, you can make the argument, better...

pocket passer at this point, but even still, we saw it in Denver. It wasn't... You can't throw it over the middle of the field. I think Russ... Chesterfields can't all the time either. So Russ... I'm making the case. I'm making the opposite case. He might get a chance to start at some point in the not-so-distant future, just as a spark, because I feel like the Steelers, they win games on defense. They win games by not turning the ball over. And if you have a real bad offensive...

performance you might just want to see what the offense looks like with a different person there yeah and I don't think you could get a more different person than Russell Wilson yeah Justin Fields yeah

So I think there's a chance he gets out there. And if he doesn't, he might end up being just the best investment of all time for the Steelers where you sign him for a million dollars and then you can trade him to a team for a fourth-round pick. Remember, he took a discount. He took a discount, yeah. Yeah, even though he's getting paid a ton of money from the Broncos and that was the best deal that was given to him. Selfless guy. Yeah, team first. Team first guy. Okay, let me do a quick ad before we get to the next game. Game time. Game time.

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Great place to get your hair cut and very quick. Okay, Bengals 34, Panthers 24. Are the Bengals back or did they play the Panthers? I think the Bengals might be back. I don't think the Bengals are back. I think they might, but it's the Andy Dalton Panthers. Yes, but the Bengals defense...

Is not good. Very suspect. I think Trey Henderson got hurt. He got a stinger. And Cam Taylor Britt gave up another touchdown where he looked like he was diving as Deontay Johnson scored a touchdown. Nice to see Deontay Johnson. He just needed Andy Dalton in his life. He's doing some work, yeah. The Bengals offense is elite.

The Bengals' defense is a problem. I have to think Lou Amarumo is going to figure it out. Does he have the guys? Sometimes they say it's not Jimmys and Joes. It's not X's and O's. No, it's not X's and O's. It's Jimmys and Joes. They don't have the Jimmys and Joes right now. They're missing a lot of guys. They're missing a lot of Jimmys and Joes.

That Jamar Chase touchdown was so fucking awesome. They can't touch him. He threw the ball to his dad in the stands afterwards. I like that. You saw Brock Purdy saying, hi, mom, afterwards. More players need to be like, hi, dad. Yeah. Yeah. Agreed. What were you going to say, Max? I have a question. Do you want the Bengals to be good because you think you want to justify the win? No, I want the Bengals to be good because I like Joe Burrow. Max might be wrong to something.

I just wanted to ask that question is all. No, their defense is a problem. It's not. I mean, the Panthers had 375 yards. They were 50% on third downs. I guess what you could say for the Bengals being back is the first week, the concern was the Joe Burrows injury, that weird video of him grabbing the water bottle. You're like, he might still be injured. T. Higgins sitting out. Jamar Chase sitting out. All that stuff.

That was a concern. That is not a concern at all. The Bengals could probably go toe-to-toe outscoring shootouts with almost anyone. Their defense is not what the Bengals' defense has been in the past. Yeah. I just have to think that they'll get better at some point. You know, healthy? They'll get some guys back.

The Panthers were the best medicine right now for the Bengals. Yeah. So at least now they believe that they can win. When they played against the Chiefs, they played good enough to win that game too. Yeah. This is what we see all the time from the Bengals, though, is they start out slow. September's a bad month, and then they get hot. Yeah. And I think that's what's going to happen again. Now, we should have known this game was over from the pregame because they broke the drum. They keep pounding drum. Oh, no. And this time it was— Serper? No, no. This time it was John Beeson. Oh, no.

Last year, I thought the story sounded kind of familiar. They did it last year, too. Mike Tolbert beat the drum, broke it, and they lost that game.

If you break the keep pounding drum, you can't keep – you have to stop pounding. You have to literally stop pounding. Yeah. Yeah. So that was – we should have known right then. Right then and there. Yeah, but Andy Dalton – I love the Andy Dalton tour where it's just watching him go out there and look good for a little bit. Again, it makes us feel a little bit younger than we really are. But this is the perfect Andy Dalton game if you're the Carolina Panthers because you lose, but you look competent while losing. Damn.

Dave Canales, you can tell, like he's having, even in a loss, was having more fun being like, I have a quarterback that can actually do the things I need him to do. Mm-hmm. Which, it's got to suck being Bryce Young. Bryce Young just should not even dress. Is he? He was dressed today? He's a backup quarterback? I'm sure he'd have to have been, right? I didn't see him at all today, yeah. Well, it's hard. That's true. Behind everyone. He's a little guy. Yeah. He's a tiny little guy. It's just...

That'd be funny if they got him like a little drawer. Yeah, just tuck him in there. Yeah, so he doesn't have to watch the game. Yeah, put a straitjacket on him. He can just hang out. So Bengals back. You say back. I don't know if they're back yet, but I predict that they will be back. It was a must win for the Bengals. I'm going to wait until next week when they play the Ravens.

To declare them back. They can beat the Ravens. Okay, I want to get ahead of that. They might not be back. Okay, because one and four is tough. Yeah, I see them. Crystal ball, I see them. One and four. Yeah, so if they can beat the Ravens, I think they're officially back because it softens up a little from there. But right now, I'm not ready. They're half back. Are the Bengals back or did they play the Panthers? That's the question. That's a fair stat for them, yeah. Okay, next up.

Broncos 10, Jets 9. What a game. What a game. So before we get to memes, I would like to say...

The Broncos defense looks very good, and I know there was weather, but we have to put respect on the Broncos. Patrick Chretan, who we did put respect on last week, is one of the best cornerbacks, if not the best cornerback in the league. He had 60% of Garrett Wilson's snaps was against him, and Garrett Wilson had two catches for 22 yards. The Broncos defense played very well in this game. Bo Nix...

Let's just say this. Bo Nix threw a touchdown pass. Everyone's on the board. Let's go, Bo. All the starters are on the board. He also had a first half of 7 for 15 for minus 7 yards. That's very, very hard to do. Very, very hard to do. I don't think he completed a pass that went past the line of scrimmage in the first half.

Weather might have had something to do with it. I'd say probably more than likely it was just Bo Nix being Bo Nix that had something to do with it. But they won. Maybe Bo Nix is just a winner. Have we thought about that? Well, I was going to say... Have we thought about, like, okay, stats are for losers, Big Cat? I haven't... Maybe Bo Nix just goes out there and he wins fucking football games. I have a stat to back it up. Okay. Bo Nix is the first QB to win a game in which he averaged fewer than 2.5 yards per pass attempt. Minimum 25 attempts. Okay.

Bo Nix just made history. Bo Nix won a game in spite of bad quarterback play, which was done by Bo Nix. Yeah, it's like Tim Tebow. He's T-Bo Nix. Yeah. This is exactly what he used to do for the Broncos, too. Credit to Bo Nix. Yeah. Overcoming yourself sometimes can be the hardest opponent of all. Bo Nix did the impossible. He won a game with Bo Nix as a quarterback. Yeah. That first half was...

I don't know how anybody watched that game. If you're a Jets fan that made the trip to the Meadowlands, nobody had a worse day than you. I don't think anyone had a worse summer than a poor Jets fan, probably sat in traffic for an hour and a half, you would say, probably, to get out to the Meadowlands. Yeah. More. Yeah. With rain? You were in the rain, in the cold, in the wind. You watched nine points from your offense.

and then you got rained on more. Then you left. Then you had to get into another, probably an Uber that you thought it was going to be decent size, and it was like a 2007 Toyota Prius, and you and your three friends were stuck together in the back seat. Then you had to sit for another hour and a half in traffic,

as you were thinking about the loss, listen to post-game radio and make your way back to New York City. That is an all-time bad after. I would rather be in jail. I would rather spend that time in jail. Yeah, the four hours? Or the ten hours? Yeah, provided that jail had a television. With the quad box and another television with another one. It's basically who had a worse day, a Jets fan or Diddy? Just a day, just a worse day.

They're trying to make... I saw a report. They're like, Diddy's in a jail that's horrific. It's like, yeah, dude, it's jail. It's jail. It's jail. Do you want us to feel bad? It's jail. Better than the Meadowlands. Yeah, this was a perfect commercial for football's the greatest game to watch on your couch. Yep. It is built to watch on your couch.

Going to games, the tailgater is fun when the weather's okay, but everything else, the couch is just perfect. Memes, your thoughts. I guess you want questions first or you want thoughts? Why don't you go thoughts, then we'll question. I'll go thoughts. We had nine days to prepare for a team with a rookie quarterback, playing back-to-back away games, playing cross-country away games. Yeah.

And we laid an egg. Defense showed up. Robert Sala after the game made sure to say the defense showed up. Saying the offense didn't. Meanwhile, you're the head coach and you're in charge of everything. Now, Mims, he is a defensive head coach, correct? Yes, but that doesn't matter. You're the head coach. I would say, would Aaron Rodgers be kind of in charge of the offense? I'm not even going to include Nathaniel Hackett here. Yeah, is Nathaniel Hackett a problem? It feels like he might be a problem.

Nice guy. Really nice guy. Had a great time on Pardon My Take. He's a really nice guy. Loves Blake Bortles. He's a way better guy than he is football coach. He's not even close. Better human being. It's a blowout. Nathaniel Hackett is not smart. But dude, he watches the Goldmember. There's certain times like there was one moment in the game, it was second and one, and then they just ran three pass plays in a row.

Well, two pass plays and then Aaron Rodgers. In the wind and rain. In the wind and rain, Aaron Rodgers gets hurt. It's like, how haven't you learned your lesson? Just run the ball, put Braylon Allen in, get the extra yardage, get a field goal, get out of the game, grimy, win. Credit to the Broncos defense, though. They did a really good job of shutting down your running game. Breeze Hall, what do you have? Like .4 yards per carry? The Broncos defense deserves credit.

I'm putting some respect on the Broncos. They do, but when Brees Hall wasn't doing well, they should have put Brown Allen in because he was doing well. And he's 19 years old. He's fucking sick. Here's a question for you. Are we at the question time? Yeah. Hank, will you please get a question ready for me as well? Do you think there's an issue between coach and quarterback?

Because there was a quote afterwards that Salah said that they need to dial back the cadence. And Aaron Rodgers said, that's one way to do it. The other way is to hold them accountable. Thoughts? There might be a slight problem, but I don't think there's a problem. So when I was telling Big Ken earlier that Caleb Williams should take that next step and just say, like, fuck this guy's play calling.

I don't have a single doubt in my mind that Aaron Rodgers does that. Maybe every single play. Yeah. Nathaniel Hackett, they might not even plug in his headset. That might be why Aaron Rodgers... They might give him a dummy headset. It might be why Aaron loves Nathaniel Hackett so much because he's like, I will overrule this guy on every single play call and he won't say shit. Yeah. They could have... They probably have a headset. Nathaniel Hackett's on a headset with...

Like he's just talking to no one. And they're like, yeah, go stand over there and call your game. And they're like, hey, Aaron, he still thinks he's talking to you. You just call the game. He's just got like Nao playing in his headphones and he's out there like trying to call a game. Memes, I have a question. Yes. Have the Jets posted the final score yet? I don't believe so. Oh, that's a no-no. It's back-to-back losses. Even the guy put the burrito up his ass.

Did he? Yeah. I saw it. It was very funny. I saw the picture. It was horrific. How did it go up there? He just basically held it in his asshole. And then he did... So he did that.

He took the picture. He had a mask on. He had like a shirt on. It was just his ass with a burrito up in it. Then the very next tweet was, oh, fuck, my wife saw the picture. I'm screwed. And then later on in the night when Alabama was up whatever, 28-0, he said, if Georgia comes back and wins this game, I'll do a face reveal and ruin my whole life. Oh, my God. And so he had a moment where he was like, I've done it again. Back-to-back weeks. It's all over. Oh, my God.

So shout out that guy for actually putting the burrito up his ass. St. Bill Snyder. Henry. Memes. Yeah. After last week's big win against New England, what percent chance did you think that you were going to possibly lose this game was? Five. Five percent? I also did that because I bet them. Well, even to the last quarter, I thought we were winning the entire time.

Yeah. I mean, he lost to Bo Nix. Missed a kick. Yeah, but Bo Nix, remember, Bo Nix is such a winner that he won the game in spite of Bo Nix. That's hard to do. Listen, Bo Nix beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the New York Jets, and himself twice. Yeah. And he's got four wins in the last two weeks. It's Bo Nix. One of the best quarterbacks in the league, allegedly. Yeah. Oh, we're getting legends going on. Does Aaron Rodgers look all right?

I'm not talking about his play today. Does he look healthy? He looked healthy until he got landed on. Our boss, Dave, has a theory that he's got a goofy helmet. He's got to figure that out. He does have a goofy helmet. The way that it's strapped in looks kind of awkward, but he looks gaunt. He looks like he has scurvy, like he's on some weird diet where he's not allowed to eat vitamin C. Oh, you're saying not playing. You're just saying.

I'm just saying in general, he looks a little scraggly. Looks skinny? Yeah. Yeah. Does he have something wrong with him? I don't know. He's your quarterback, buddy. No, he's fine. Sure? Yeah. Okay. Good to hear. Also, memes...

Explain to these guys what you're telling me about the taunting penalty. Did you guys see this? No, but I'm already fired up hearing your tone of voice. So Ronald Torbert's crew is the fucking worst NFL crew in the league. It sounds like a narc, doesn't it? You know that you're a Jets fan who's very mad about a game because you're saying Ronald Torbert. Let me start with Ronald Torbert. When you see this guy's face pop up on your screen, you're going to see him every five minutes for the rest of the game. Yeah. Okay.

So the Jets are driving. Oh, yeah, I know Ronald Torbert. Yep. The Jets are driving. I see there's the last. Inside of the 20. We're watching it now. He does a casual point, point. The ref runs over to Ronald Torbert and does this. Double points? Double points like he was just shooting guns into the air. 15-yard penalty all the way back. Also, this TV's not on. I don't know if you thought the TV was on. Wait, can we see it? Yeah, can you turn that on?

I want to see the double point. I just searched Ronald Torbert to see what he looks like, and one of the first tweets I saw was, per TMZ, NFL official Ronald Torbert is dating A-list actress Margot Robbie. So good for him. Wait, that's got to be a joke. Yeah, no, it's a big time joke. Okay. But it's very funny. It's a very funny joke to tweet out.

Yeah, so what happened... He looks... He's basically Mike Tirica. He looks like Mike Tirica. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I'm familiar with old Torbs. He's dating Margot Robbie. Yeah, so what happened was the receiver did the double guns after he tossed the ball up, and then the side judge or whatever ran up to Torbert and was like, Torbert, he did the double guns. Pay lines. You can't do the double guns. Yeah, we're in the greater New York area. You can't do that. Yeah, they suspended Plaxico for less than that. So it was...

It was a bad taunting penalty to call. And we've been an anti-taunting podcast for quite some time. Anti-anti, yes. We think players should be able to taunt. I've got two solutions for it. Two solutions. Because we've got to be proactive. We can't just complain about it. Solution number one is whenever the referee announces a taunting penalty...

Everybody in the stands, even if it's in favor of your team, has to boo. Like it's Roger Goodell opening up the draft. Yep. Everybody just boo the ref. Make them feel shamed. Second way to do it is if coaches start declining taunting penalties. Ooh. Start declining all the taunting penalties. A gentleman's rule. A gentleman's rule. Y'all do it together. If it's a soft-ass, bitch-ass taunt, decline the penalty and say, no thanks, we'll strap it up like men. I fucking love that. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, you basically... It's mutual combat when you show up...

Before the game, the coin flip, you shake hands, and you either agree to declining of all taunting penalties or not. Yeah. I think Dan Campbell would be the first to sign up for this. God, that would rock because people would just be taunting left and right, and the game would be more fun. Yep. But you know someone will break the truce. If you really need it. If you really needed 15 yards, you would definitely break it. But then they should be shunned. Yeah. Yeah.

Absolutely. They should be taken out of the coach's picture. Yeah, beat the fuck out of them before the coach's picture so they look like that MMA fighter. Yeah. Meme, so what's your panic level? Because this was supposed to be a win. It's supposed to be a win. Panic's still not high just unless we play in rain.

Okay, so no rain for the rest of the year. No, but I also said that about Zach Wilson, so it's just the same. We're kind of in the same spot. We just need perfect weather conditions. Why don't they have a dome? Why don't you have a dome? It should. It's a swampy area. And it's also like you don't have – that's not a remarkable stadium that has any type of – there's nothing special. It's new and it's also like void of any type of character. Yeah.

Yeah, no, I'm with you. They should get a dome and they should get grass and then just maintain it. Okay, I'm with you. You play the Vikings who Sam Darnold revenge game. He already had that. But this one's in London. Nah, but he already had that. But it's the London Sam Darnold revenge game. It's technically a short week. Yes, it is technically a short week. Robert Sella sucks at preparing more than seven days. Does it rain in England a lot? It does. Are they playing in a dome?

It's a shorter week for the Vikings. But we play better on a shorter week. But they're even shorter. How do they play on a shorter week? Because they have to travel farther. No, I'm saying, how do they play? Oh, I don't know. But they're also one time zone behind you. Yeah, it's a shorter week for them. It's even shorter? Yeah. They have to go an extra hour, basically a flight or two hours of flight. We're not a time zone podcast. No, we've never been. It is technically one hour shorter in the time zones.

They're an hour apart. It's the most East Coast game that you can possibly play. But is it all time the same? Now you're freaking me out. Oh, man, that was heavy. That's some Aaron Rodgers shit right there. What the hell just happened? No, man. They have to. So, memes. Let's just say hypothetically it was the same distance from London, right? New York and Minneapolis. Yep. Minneapolis would have to leave one hour earlier on the clock than the Jets would. Correct. Correct.

That day that they leave for travel, that's going to be one hour shorter. If they left at the exact same time, the Jets would leave at 1 p.m., and the Vikings would technically leave at noon. And then they would get there at the same time. No. It would still take longer for the Vikings. And they would have to leave earlier, so they're on a shorter week. They have to leave home before you do. I think you're right. Yeah, I know I'm right. So there goes your short week, buddy. But we still play better on a short week.

But it's not. You're on a long week compared to the Vikings. Get that extra hour. We got him back. We got him back. We got him back. You're in the matrix right now. Yeah, have some. How do you like that now? I don't like it. Yeah, no one does. So does Salah, he sucks at coaching in the rain? Or your quarterback sucks at playing in the rain? No, the Jets suck in the rain.

Yeah, the Jets suck in the rain. We had two good games in the rain, one against the Texans last year, smoked them, and then one against the Bears. But your quarterback was... Was it Bajan? No. Three years ago, Mike White game. Oh, oh. McCown. No, was it... Oh, no, we started... Shit, who did we start in that game? What year was it?

Was it Seaman? Yeah, it might have been. Yeah, I think it was. No, it was Trevor Simeon. I think it was Trevor Simeon. Stud. That was bad. Yeah, Trevor Simeon started that game. Yeah, but those are the only two good Jets games. Like, last year we played the Giants and barely won. It's just bad. Okay. You can't play in the rain. Salah needs to wear a hat in the rain. Okay. The shiny bald head is distracting. Yeah. He has to feel every single raindrop all over his head. He also needs to just, like, show...

You know what? Get... Is gold member Mike Myers? Yep. Is it Austin Powers? Yep. Just get him stuck in the bowels of MetLife with a car going back and forth. That's not a bad idea. That's what you need to do with Nathaniel Hackett before the game. That's a good idea. It's like, hey, Nathaniel, can you park my golf cart real quick?

And then right before kickoff, be like, hey, just put that over there. And he'll just get stuck. Because it's going to be an issue for Nathaniel Hackett in England having to listen to all those accents. He'll just think it's hilarious. Yeah. He'll be like, this entire country is like gold members. He's going to think he's living in the movie. Yep. Like the year when the coach gets stuck. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Brickma. The ice is hot. We heat up the ice. All right. Next. Why don't you keep the mic on over there? Box 33, Eagle 16.

Maxie. So Eagles are bad right now. No, they're bad. Oh, oh. So I bet the Bucs right before kickoff because I saw the stat that Lane Johnson was out. And since 2013, the Eagles are 97-59-1 when he plays, which is 62% winning percentage. And now without him, they are 14-24. That's significant.

That's pretty crazy. That it is. It's like 40% of winning percentage when Lane Johnson's on the field versus when he's not. Also doesn't help when you're only two receivers on the roster are also out. Yeah, and I thought for a second that there were two receivers on the roster. You have more receivers than that? Nope.

Yeah, I'll name one. Britton Covey? Britton Covey. IR. Okay, I'll name another one. Jahan Dotson? Not good. Not a receiver? Not a worthy one. Okay. How much would you give up in a trade for him, hypothetically? What do you think he's worth? A lot less than a third rounder. What about Dallas Cotter? He's good. Yeah? So you had that. Who else?

Saquon Barkley got 12 touches. Okay. Wait, 12 catches? Touches. Touches. So including his rushing attempts. In the whole game. Correct. He got 12 touches. That is correct. Do you want me to say it again? Yeah. Did you hear Sirianni's explanation for why they didn't get more involved earlier? I don't want to hear anything from him.

Okay. What do you say? I want to hear it. Would you like to hear it? Yeah, I'd like to hear it. So a reporter asked him how come he wasn't more involved in the opening three series of the game. I think he got two touches maybe on the first three drives. That's more receivers than they have on the active roster. Yeah, that's a good point, Hank. So Sirianni said...

Well, in those drives, if you look at them, we got to third down on all of them and went three and out. So on third down, we weren't going to run the ball. So really, it's just two plays per possession that we weren't getting the ball at. So you have to bear that in mind and take three of those plays out. And now you're only stuck with nine plays. Or I guess that'd be six plays to get him the ball. And they got him the ball a third of the time. So that was pretty good. Oh, yeah.

But maybe if you got him the ball more, maybe then you wouldn't have been in third and long. Stuck in that. Max, you guys have John Ross? Yes. I didn't know he was still in the NFL. He was in the practice squad. He's the fastest guy in the world. Also, I think he wears 37. Is that the slowest number? 38. But he's not the slowest. That's actually smart by him because he's so fast and he wears a slow number, people would be deceived.

That's genius. No. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Like if you were number one or 11. Yeah, dude. He's a I remember John Ross when he got drafted. I was just like this guy's going to be a game changer. He's so fast. He's going to end up on the Chiefs and then we'll look like morons. Yeah, he will. You probably will trade him to Chiefs. He'll be incredible. John Ross had a catch.

Yeah, I don't know. What do you want me to say? Were there any positive things about today? No. Okay. What about the blocked extra point you guys returned for two points? Sick. I mean, the game was over in a second. It was instant. It was also like as soon as they went down, they didn't have the guys to go on a run. To get back. Yeah. It's tough. It's tough in the boots right now. Your team sucks too, Hank.

Yeah, Baker Mayfield, nice bounce back from his game last week. And the Bucs... Baker was incredible. Yeah. He had a bad game against the Broncos, and he bounced back. And the Bucs look like they're still the class of the NFC South. I think there's a chance that Sirianni doesn't make it through the bye week. Oh, no. Is he sick? No. Oh.

There's two guys out there. I got one. There's two guys out there. It should be Vrabes. Dominic. Belichick. Or Belichick.

That both would kill Hank. Both would kill Hank. Vrabel would kick the shit out of people if he was the coach of the Philadelphia Eagles. Vrabel would be awesome. You want a leader of men. Wait, but you're not going to hire an interim. Yeah, why not? Yeah, I guess why not. You're right. You're right. All right, so you're really down on a two-and-two team with a lot of injuries.

Like, the injuries are going to get fixed. They did not show up in the slightest today. They had no interest in being on the field. It was too hot. And then there's...

There's a problem between coach and quarterback. There's a problem between coach and player. And whenever the coach gets behind a microphone, he sounds like a fucking idiot just like me, but I'm not the coach of the fucking Eagles. That's true. And Darius Slay is a fucking asshole. Oh, yeah, so tell us this story because we missed this. I want you to tell me. What happened with Darius Slay? He got burned? Darius Slay, bad game today. Yeah. Very bad game. And then what did he do? After the game.

Goes to Twitter almost immediately. X.

150 pass breakups and counting. 28 picks and counting. Six-time Pro Bowl. All pro. When you talk bad about me, don't forget to mention the greatness of me too. Oh, okay. Mention his greatness. And then he immediately... Hank, are you taking notes? Because... What? He got roasted and then went private. Listen, seriously, be a man like everyone else and don't even tweet any of that. Just do a screenshot of the man in the arena speech. Yeah.

Shut up all the haters. Hank, you need to do that when you can't dunk. You'd be like, I'm going to dunk. Producer for number one sports podcast for the last eight plus years. Rode on the float with the coach of the Celtics. Keeper of the Lighthouse. Keeper of the Lighthouse. Didn't look that bad bald.

Didn't look that bad bald. That might be number one. 5x lottery ball winner. 3x in the new studio. What's the last line of it? Remember my greatness? Mention my greatness as well. That's such a loser thing to do.

You can't do that on Twitter. And then he went private. Yeah. That's bad. Yeah, Philly got it. How come when people criticize me, they don't also talk about how great I am? When you talk bad about me, don't forget to mention the greatness of me, too. Well, that wouldn't be talking bad about him. Correct. Bucks, I do think, are the class of the NFC South. I think they're very good. It was good to see Baker bounce back because I feel like with these quarterbacks and Baker's

extended periods, but like a Sam Darnold Baker, I think is better than Sam. But if they have one bad game, I'm always worried that it's going back into a pumpkin. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I don't know. I hear you. Did they figure him out? Yeah. So I just get nervous so that it was good to see Baker have a good bounce back game on

I think it's a little bit different with Baker because he had success when he was in Cleveland. Baker's not the same. Tom Brady was just unloading the clip with stories today. He said that the Bears were a secret team for him in 2020. I remember that that was floated. It might have been just Mike Florio said it to bother me and to get me a little excited. The boy who cried goat? Yeah, he dropped that.

I don't remember talking about it that much. Obviously, he was going to go somewhere else, but I don't remember the Bears being a serious...

I feel like we would have had more serious conversations if that were true. I think it was just like a dark horse team that was mentioned a few times. He took his free agency tour kind of under wraps, if I remember. Because he had that one... There was like secret meetings going on with the Dolphins. And then that whole thing blew up. And then there were some other teams where it was like, oh, he might go to this team. But this is the first I remember hearing concrete Tom thought about going to the Bears. He would have hated it because that was...

2020, I actually think we might have gone to the... Was that the year they extended the playoffs? When they made it seven teams? There was COVID, right? Yeah, I want to say... Tom Brady won the Super Bowl. We went to the... I think that was the game the Bears lost to the Saints. There was Heineke. Heineke covered against the Bucs. I think that was MVP year. Was it? I think that was Mitch winning the MVP. That sounds right.

I think it might have been. So would you rather have Mitch or Tom Brady? First ever MVP? Well, I guess my point is that it wasn't crazy. It sounds crazy to be like, oh, he would have gone to the Bears. But the Bears that year were a playoff team with Mitch Trubisky. Yeah. Yeah, I'm right. That was the MVP of the year. Do you think they would have been better with Tom Brady? The little four-year.

when he kicked. Yeah. Do you think they would have been better with Tom Brady? I think they would have probably been better with Tom Brady. They might have. So the big question was answered today. Are the Bucs having more fun this year than they did two years ago? Yeah. So there was a quote. I don't ever remember talking about this on this show, but apparently Baker said on the Casa de Club podcast, the building was a little different with Tom. It's House of Club.

House of Club? Did you just hit the SAP button by accident? No, it says on this website. No, that's the name. Oh. I was translating. Oh, you were translating. I guess you didn't know. You hit the SAP button. The House of Club. The building was a little bit different with Tom in there. Obviously, playing-wise, Tom is different. He had everybody dialed in, high-strung environment, so I think everybody was pretty stressed out. They wanted me to come in, be myself, bring the joy back to football for guys who weren't having as much fun.

Got him.

Or win a Super Bowl. I'd say this is the old Lane Johnson when we got him in trouble. Yeah, that's true. When we basically put words in his mouth. Is Tom Brady not fun? No, Lane Johnson said that. No, we led him to say that. We definitely did. I remember we basically put it in his mouth. Yeah. Put it down his throat. We put it in his mouth. We did put it in Lane Johnson's mouth. I think Tom Brady might not be a fun hang. But he wins. But he wins. And is that fun? Yes.

Yeah, he's just like the finance version of like, we don't have fun here, we make bank. Yeah. Having fun is actually for losers. Yeah. That might be true. It kind of is. Winning is the most fun you can have, right? Yeah.

Yeah, it's the most fun you can have while having no other fun. Right. When you win, that's the peak of fun. What it takes to get to winning, not fun. That part sucks. I actually think losers have way more fun than winners. Yeah, they just hang out. But then if you lose too much, then you're not having any fun on that side too. The key is to be an unaware loser. Yeah.

Because then your life is just awesome all the time. To think you're a winner. Yeah, you just lose and you're like, well, I don't care. Like maybe if you just do a podcast and you get on this podcast all the time and you talk a lot of shit about people that have accomplished a lot in their chosen field of athletics and you make fun of them, you're a loser, but you're unaware that you're a loser. Correct. So you would probably have a lot of fun doing that. Right. Hypothetically. Have a lot of fun. Hypothetically. Okay. So, Max, season's over.

I mean, we could make a change. Oh, so with Nick Sirianni season is over. Current mindset is that. Yeah. And Jalen Hurts is addicted to turning the ball over. Oh, no. Are we about to have this conversation? Let's wait. Let's wait. Let's wait till Lane Johnson comes back and AJ Brown. I think because I don't want to have this conversation that we've been dancing around for a while. I think AJ Brown is going to make a big difference. It sounds like you're having the conversation in your head, though.

Let's wait. But are you... We're not going to have this conversation. Has the conversation occurred in your head? Yes. Okay, that's bad. Who's winning the conversation? Is it Angry Max? I'm not asking the question. Is Angry Max winning the conversation or is Cool Headed Rational Max? I think Angry Max. Angry Max is angry. Tough to argue with. Always controls this brain.

Do you think depending on what you eat, it goes... Like, if you eat a salad, it goes to calm, Max. If you eat a meatball, it goes to angry, Max. I don't know. The more Italian you eat, the angrier your angry brain gets. Like, oh, I'm well-fed now. Max, can I give you some good news? Max also... Congratulations to Max. He completed his wedding finale this weekend. Thank you. Four weddings in five weeks. Gauntlet. Congrats, Max. I am...

I'm fighting for my life right now. Yeah, I can tell. You did it, though. I can tell. It's an impressive stretch. Here's some good news for you, Max. You have the bye. That's good. Make any changes over the bye. Maybe get healthier. After that, the Browns. After that, the Giants. After that, the Bengals. And after that, the Jaguars. Oh. Is that even a thing where teams bring in coaches from the outside in the middle of the season? No, no, no. So why are you even floating that out there? Why not?

Because it's not realistic. Are you talking about an interim coach? No, he's throwing out Belichick and Vrabel, but that would be unprecedented. Has that ever happened? I don't think so. So early. You hired just an interim coach for hire? Coach O would be great at that job. Yeah. Yeah. He's not doing anything. All right, a boy can dream. A boy can dream. Yeah. Well, you said that that's your solution. How do we fix, turn the season around? Let's do something that's never been done in the history of sport. That's a bad spot to be in. It's a really bad spot to be in.

They looked horrible today. Yeah. It's just bad vibes. The vibes haven't been good in a year. Well, it's the booing against everything. Oh, the booing? It is. It's booing against everything. You're right. Hey, Phillies.

That's going to end. Why? Why? What is wrong? I don't know. I also got bad vibes for that. What? What? I'm just a little. Go ahead. You're almost there. No, no, no, no, no, no. Finish the thought. We have more football. You got a playoff run coming up. You can't think losing, dude. Finish the thought. We got to think winning. I'm scared. Ranger Suarez all of a sudden sucks. Oh, no.

I'm scared. Well, Max, I just looked this up here. In 1978, the San Diego Chargers head coach, Tommy Prothrow, resigned four weeks into the season, and the Chargers got Don Correale from the Cardinals. Yeah, shut up, Hank.

Unprecedented. In your face, Hank. Don Correale. Suck it, Hank. Learn ball. What do you know about Big Don? Big Don. Somebody said this. I didn't see it with my own two eyes, so I might be spreading fake news here. Did Big Don participate in the post-game coach's handshake?

I don't know. That would be funny if he... I didn't stick around. If Nick Sirianni's been emasculated so much that Big Dom, like, holds the back of Nick Sirianni's hand. Yeah. And they shake it together. Yeah, let me bring my consigliere back in. I want to make sure that this man doesn't break your hand. I have to protect you at all costs. Okay. Okay.

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Okay, Texans-Jaguars. Texans 24, Jaguars 20. CJ Stroud game-winning drive. Jaguars look like they might be...

Okay, get off the mat. And then they lose. And it feels like things are starting to spiral for Dougie P because he was asked after the game about his status. And he said, my status. I mean, no kind of a strange question, but okay. Yeah. Yeah. Like he hadn't thought about that at all. There was another part of his postgame press conference that stood out. And I think a lot of people didn't pick up on it. But if you're Jaguars fan, you probably know exactly what I'm talking about.

Doug Peterson has not said publicly that Press Taylor is the play caller. He's their offensive coordinator. Doug Peterson's in charge of the offense. He's called a lot of plays earlier in his career, and people were speculating that maybe he was calling the plays now for Jacksonville. He said in the press conference, just out of nowhere, he goes, Press Taylor called a great game today. Number one.

I don't think Press Taylor called a great game today. But he threw that out there, and then right after that, he said, listen, if you're going to point fingers, point fingers at me. So what Doug Peterson just did was...

throw his offensive coordinator under the bus very subtly by letting people know that it's Press Taylor that's calling these plays. So, Shad, if you're watching this press conference, if you need to ax somebody, I'm not calling the plays right now. It was like a little bat signal. Yeah. That's kind of shitty. He also was like, they got to make plays.

Yeah, kind of throwing it back on the players. That part, if he was not intending to throw his offense coordinator under the bus, which he might not have been, maybe he was, but if he was intending to do that, he did a nice subtle job of doing it. If he didn't, then you can still say, well, then right after that, you said that our players need to go out and execute because we had a great game. Now, Trevor, I don't think, played poorly today. He had like a couple overthrows. That one deep one that was, I don't know who it was, was wide.

wide open. You could definitely say that Trevor missed two touchdown passes today. Yeah, that was bad. But he also made some really good throws today. He needs to cut it out with the spin moves to nowhere. Yeah, spin moves to nowhere are always bad. I don't understand. So the Jaguars did a pretty good job of running the ball today. And then when they got the ball back, or sorry, they got the ball with like 350-ish left in the game.

Up three, they decided to run the ball on first down and then pass-pass both incompletions. Kicked it back to the Texans with more than enough time for CJ Stroud with timeouts in his back pocket. Go on a game-winning drive. I don't care...

If you want to say, well, we got to stay aggressive, we got to stay aggressive. In that situation, under four minutes, you have to try to give, if you're going to give the ball back, it has to be with as little amount of time as possible. And was Etienne hurt today? Did he get injured early on? I don't know.

We were going back and forth. I do not recall. We were watching the game in the PMT studio. I do not recall. Couldn't focus on all of them at the same time. I do not recall. As we got hurt and then came back. Yeah, I thought I heard that he got hurt because everybody was like, why the fuck isn't Etienne running this football? Yeah, I mean, that was just a – I don't know why they weren't running there and trying to burn clock and then CJ Stroud happened. And I have a question for you, PFT. Mm-hmm.

Is Nico Collins a top three wide receiver? Because it feels like he is. He's awesome. He's so good. CJ Stroud, watching this game, it was basically like any time they get in trouble, just hit the Nico Collins button. Yeah, they got it. And he'll make a big fucking play for you. The Texans have some serious weapons. It's like them and the Vikings that have the two best weapons. I'd like to see those teams play. Yeah. It better be a shootout. Yeah. But they're... Well, unless...

One team fumbles. That's true. And that changes the whole scope of the game. That would be against the 49ers. So C.J. Stroud is just, he's entering that conversation where it's like if you're within one possession at the end of the game, C.J. will figure out a way to get it done. Yes. I read something interesting about him this week, actually. Did you know that he moved his barber to Houston?

He had a barber. Power move. He had a barber. I think he met him at Ohio State, and they became good friends. And then he gets drafted, obviously, by the Texans. And then he flew his barber out a couple times a month, got him some nice haircuts. And then he was like, you know what? Fuck it. Why don't you just move down to Houston? I love that. That's such a good move. I love that. Because having a good barber is like a good therapist.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Especially maybe a little scalp massage. Wow. We shouldn't do that with Texas. Yeah. Watch out. Yeah. The last therapist that got flown out there didn't. Yeah. So kindly. But yeah, CJ Stroud is in that category of if you made a list of guys with the ball in their hands with two minutes left and need a touchdown, he's...

Top five of, yeah, I feel confident. Just the poise he has is just always insane. Yeah, but Nico Collins is, sometimes we forget about Nico Collins. I don't. He gets lost. I'm on all my fantasy teams, not to brag, so I don't. But he's really good. He's really fucking good, and it really does feel like anytime they get in a jam, they just hit that button. This just is a vibes thing, but there might be a stat to back it up.

Is Laramie Tunsil going for the record for flags this year? He might be, but counterpoint. I have another question for you, Big Cat, to answer this question. Do you remember the name of the other first overall pick who's on the Jacksonville Jaguars from, I believe, 2022? Josh Allen? No. He might be the most untalked about first overall pick in the NFL.

Oh, yeah, no, Josh Allen was not the – it's the guy from Georgia. Joshua Hines Allen. Yeah, he was drafted, I think, the same spot that other Josh Allen was drafted. No, it's the guy from Georgia. Guy from Georgia, Trayvon Walker. Yes, Trayvon Walker. People don't remember they have that guy as a first overall pick too. They do. And he might be a holding merchant.

Yeah. Because he got, I think it was three holding penalties that he got against Tunsell today. Tunsell's trying to break the record. Yeah. I really feel it. I don't know if there's a stat to look it up, but he had the triple false start last week. I think he had a couple more this week.

I kind of like it. I'll say right now, Laramie Tunsil, I support your aspirations to break the record for most flags in a season. And also, if you had a quarterback that was getting hit a lot, wouldn't you rather have your offensive lineman just hold the guy and prevent him from getting clobbered? Yes. Also, if you're Laramie Tunsil and you want maybe the Google results to not be the bong mask, breaking the record for most flags

penalties in a season would be pretty good. That's true because I think if you Google Laramie Tunsil holding, it doesn't auto-populate to holding a gas mask bomb. Yeah. Yep. Okay. It's not even on the list anymore. There you go. So good job, Laramie Tunsil. He's going to break the record. I got to find out how many he actually has. I got to look this up real quick. Laramie Tunsil. That should be a defensive stat too.

What? If you draw an offensive holding. Yeah, I'd agree. It should be half a sack. Yep. Penalties. Which I think is what Tunsell had in that bong. Mm-hmm. It's kind of funny. I just love his name. It is fun to say. Laramie Tunsell, I'm seeing right here, says 15 flags so far this year. That's crazy. See, I would not mind that if I was C.J. Stroud. Oh, no. Ten penalties through four games for Laramie Tunsell now. That's awesome.

I think he's going for it. Go for it.

I want that. Most penalties by any player through week three since 2000. I love that. Yes. It does feel like... It needs to be like a Sosa-McGuire thing. Yeah. Where we do a flag watch. Yeah. Who else would be up there for holding penalties? I don't know, but I want Laramie Tunsil. I want a flag watch. I want them to break into a playoff baseball game to just be like, and we break in live to Houston, Laramie Tunsil with another hold. They just show the replay of the hold, then they get out of there. Yeah, red zone for holding. Yeah. Yeah.

Every drop back. I was talking to Arian the other day, and he was telling me about what a deep part of the Texans culture Andre Johnson still is to this day. Do you know what his title is? No. Because he still is... Director of Vibes? He's working for the Texans. His title is being Andre Johnson. Oh. So Arian saw him at a game one time. He was like, hey, good to see you here. He's wearing the shirt and everything, the Texans polo shirt. He's like, what are you doing for the team? He goes...

I'm just being me. They just pay Andre Johnson to hang out and just be himself. I love it. Which is important to do, I think, if you have a guy like him that played for a bunch of shitty quarterbacks and was still really, really good. Just keep that guy in the building. Yeah, Jerry Reinsworth did it with Scottie Pippen where he just made him ambassador to basketball. There you go. Sorry about not paying you, Scottie, earlier. Yeah, here, sit on the sideline. Here's $50,000 a year to hang out. Yeah, pretty much. Pretty much. Okay, next up, Commanders 42, Cardinals 14. PFT, are the Commanders just good?

I think they might be good. I think so, too. I think I might have a good, fun team. I think they're good. I think they're good at football. It's crazy to think about that. Now, I will get to some Jaden Suckfest stuff in a second, but I feel like the most impressive thing about the commanders today, two things, actually. One, our defense. Our defense was perfect.

Pretty good. Yeah, I would say that they were good today, which is crazy considering that if you asked me a week ago what I thought about their defense, I'd say probably the worst in the league. I feel like they're getting to a Dan Quinn competency level. Yes, like a baseline Dan Quinn, which is all I'm hoping for like they don't make mistakes. I never said anything beyond y'all's but if we have a good defense if we have like 20th ranked defense, I

I'm thinking a win in the offs. I'm thinking maybe maybe vision a weekie. I'm thinking maybe that team today look like they could be in a soup. I know. I'm thinking if our if our defense is that was a soupy team. If our defense is 16th in the NFL right better as a defense than Dak Prescott is his quarterback. I would say that we could lose the NFC championship game to who?

Anybody. That's kind of our ceiling this year, I feel like, if our defense is just kind of, if it's average to a little bit above average. But I don't think that's going to stick around. I think that's soupy. And our offensive line has really turned a corner, too, which is also another thing that I thought would be a weakness. But our offensive line and our running game looked awesome today. So is it soupy? No, I'm not thinking soupy. He's a rookie quarterback, and we have a lot of work to do with our roster.

But he's different. Yeah, he's very good. He's an 82% completion percentage. It's crazy. So I have a couple. What's the opposite of insult stats? I don't know. Incest stats, because I love that brother? Yeah, that works. Jaden Daniels, his completion percentage, 82.1%. And that's through his first four games playing in the NFL. 82.1%.

That's the highest of any four-game stretch in the regular season since the NFL merger. Wow. Like, of all time. Second place, Peyton Manning in 2008, 81%. Third place, 2007, Tom Brady, 79.2%.

Elite company. That's pretty sick. Good company to be in. That's pretty sick. He's completed at least 85% of his passes in two consecutive games. He's the first quarterback in NFL history to have two consecutive games of at least 85% or higher completion percentage. The first quarterback. That's pretty sick. It's weird. It's weird being so happy with my team.

And I was thinking about it because I'm still getting tweets from people being like, PFT, I'm very, it's so fun, so cool to see you happy. I'm glad that you're happy watching football, which I appreciate because I've had some pretty bad teams that I've rooted for.

That, I think, might turn around in the next couple weeks because people are going to get sick of me being happy pretty quick. No, I was saying to you before, I think it's just that if Jaden Daniels has a bad game, people will definitely be like, hey, you said that you would only trade Jaden Daniels for Patrick Mahomes. They would say that.

But I don't think they'd stop being happy for you. They would just try to dunk on you for that. Maybe not. Which you shouldn't apologize for. I won't apologize for it. You get excited. I'm very happy. My mom texted me during this game when she was watching, and her text was just, I want to have Jade and Daniels over for dinner. Oh, nice. So that's nice. We'll try to arrange that. Yeah, we'll see. But no, I'm not thinking soupy. But today it was encouraging and also just having a fun team. It's...

It's wild. I don't know what's happened. Yeah, it is very fun. Yeah. It was my fun over today because I remember we were talking about it that they...

They were responsible for our happiness in the afternoon. Yep. And it was. It was fun. You called the fun over. I called Commander's money line back in August. Yeah, that's true. Oh, yeah, you cashed your bet. I cashed my bet. Terrible line, but you cashed it. That's fine. That's fine. Max is, I think, already starting to not be so happy with me. Well, because Jalen Hurts, he's having angry Max conversations about it. Yeah. Max? I was telling you that they're good. Commanders are first in the NFC East.

Correct. Yes. They were first in the NFC East last week. They've gone another week of being first in the NFC East. Correct. Have they held the NFC East crown for the most weeks? I think so, yeah. Sure. Yeah, no, I think, yeah, no. Eagles had it week one, right? Yeah, you won the game in Brazil. And then what happened week two with you? They lost. You lost, but we won week two. I think you held it for two weeks. No, I think you were still week one.

Oh, damn. We got to get that stat. No, no. Week two. Because week two, you beat a... Oh, yeah, you beat the Giants. Oh, yeah, it's true. In the division. Yeah, so you've had it for the most weeks. That's true. I got the credit. Wow. That's pretty huge. But at one point today, I told Max that the Eagles should put Kenny Pickett in. Not because...

Jalen was, or Jaden, now I'm getting my J's mixed up. We're not talking about the Eagles right now. Not because Jalen wasn't playing well. I just thought that you don't want to get him hurt in this game. And then Max flipped out and was like, you've been good for one week. Actually, three now. That was before that game. Three weeks. That was before that. Giants.

The Cardinals offense is It feels broken to me They just forget about Marvin Harrison Well it's not even that It's like they either have a drive That looks like they're the most explosive offense in the world Where James Conner's running through people And then Kyler Murray scrambles and hits a deep shot Or it's three and out It feels like there's nothing in between Like they just They had two drives I think it was maybe their first drive And a drive in the third or fourth quarter

where it looks like no one in the world could stop the Cardinals. Every other drive looks atrocious. Yeah, but when they were driving, it's like, this is the formula, stick with it. And nobody could guard Marvin Harrison Jr. when they throw him the ball. And then they just... It's like for complete quarters, the Cardinals forget to pass the ball to him. Yes, yes. But yeah, PFT, I think the Commanders are going to... I came right down and I was just like, I think the Commanders are a good team. It's not a fluke, because...

The Monday night game, you always had it in the back of your head. Be like, all right, we caught fire for one game. Yeah, that was cool. But no, they're just a really good team. Jaden Daniels makes every single moment of my life better. I'm happier all the time because of him. That makes sense. And I don't want anything bad to happen to him. That makes sense. Why would you say that? I want to protect it because it's always in the back of my head.

The pumpkin thing. The stagecoach turning into a pumpkin at midnight. That's always going to be in the back of my head. Yeah. Don't let anything bad happen to him. Don't. He's awesome. And I'm thinking Yoff's win. I'm thinking maybe Divisional Weekie. Love it. Divisional Weekie. Divisional Weekie.

Also, if you want to hate Jaden Daniels, I have an easy way why you can do that. I said during the game, like, hey, Stephen Che, do you have any terrible nicknames for Jaden Daniels? Like how he used to call Justin Fields Justino. So credit to Stephen Che. He followed through on this assignment and sent me a list of nicknames that I can yell at the TV. Do you want to hear them? Yes. This will make you hate Jaden Daniels. JD, kind of like Jay-Z in parentheses, he says.

Wouldn't J.D. Moore be like Jack Daniels? Yeah, that's a good point. Or J.D. Vance. Yeah. The J. Danimal. Ooh. Cinco de Daniels. Ooh. And then he just said any bomber plane that you know of could work. What? So if I want to call him like a B-2 or a B-1. Does not work at all. That could work. Yeah. Also the Warthog. I don't mind the Warthog. The Warthog's not bad. Warthog's pretty sick. The Warthog's not bad. Or the Warthog. Warthog.

Anyways, I'm happy all the time because of Jayden Daniels. That's awesome. I'm happy. You're happy. Hank, would you like to talk about the Patriots? Surely. 49ers, 30, Patriots, 13? We have the worst offensive line in the history of NFL. Oh, is that it? Defense played pretty good. Our offensive line stinks. It completely makes the game impossible. Yeah, it sure is. Short drives. Defense is on the field all game. They get tired. It's impossible. Defense, I don't think, is the problem, but...

When you have no offensive line, it's impossible to get anything going. Yeah. And when drives go three and out, you have two or three three and outs in the first quarter, first half, and it's like, this game's over. We can't. We're not going to score, and it's over. Yeah. And you're in a weird position where with an offensive line like that, probably not the best idea to start your rookie quarterback. Right. But he would be the only thing that would make it half enjoyable to watch football. Correct. Yeah.

So you're in a real conundrum. Yeah. Now you're just kind of resigning yourself to a season watching bad football. Yeah. Yeah, which was kind of... I knew it was going to be the case going into it. We had the first week, you know. Fred Warner's pick was so fucking cool. Yeah. He jumped so high and then ran not that fast, but all the way down the field for a touchdown. Also, Brock Purdy at one point had nine completions for 199 yards. That's crazy. It was just...

Everyone was getting big plays. Did you see that catch that Kittle had? Yeah. Touchdown catch where he jumped over three people to haul it in? Yeah, Juwan Jennings is just also a stud. Yeah. It's crazy. Somehow Juwan Jennings, like, don't really miss a beat. Nope. They're just... Yeah, I mean, that was...

We said it Friday. This was the get-right game. Yeah, Trent Williams got very right. Yeah. Trent Williams was just steamrolling people. He was getting right all day. Good news if you're a Niners fan. Christian McCaffrey is expected to start running on hard ground soon. So I don't know what he's been training on. Sand? What they have in Germany. But maybe sand? Maybe doing underwater treadmill like Blake did when he was recovering? Dude, Germany's so far to go to the doctor. Yeah.

Yeah. Like, think about how much it sucks to go to the doctor and you got to go all the way to Germany. I just got my first physical in like six years. Oh, I need to do that so bad. There's doctors that live right down the street from me every place I've been. Yeah, I need to do that. I need to get one. Or even their offices are right there too. Yeah, I feel like the Niners are going to beat up the Cardinals next week. So they're going to get right after their get right. They're going to get real right. They're going to get so right. Hard right. Yeah.

uh maybe like Kate in the case race looking right Raiders uh Browns wrapping up Raiders 20 Brown 16 the business decision game it worked uh

Antonio Pierce had no Max Crosby, no Devontae Adams. He got crazy with it. They had, I think, six dudes run the football. At one point, there were six guys who got carries that only have two running backs. And they just did kind of a mini kitchen sink where they just threw everything at it and won this game. And I don't know...

The Browns might be one of the biggest bummer teams out there right now. They're big time. But like Amari Cooper wants out. Yeah. He does not want to be there anymore. Who caught that long touch then that got called Amari Cooper. That was Cooper. Okay. So if you're a Browns fan, you have every right to complain about that. Yeah, it was. It might have been by the letter of the law, a penalty, a block in the back.

But it was not enough to throw a flag on my opinion. And I don't know how Deshaun Watson... Look, you take sacks, I get it, but like fourth down for the game on the line? You have to throw the ball somewhere. You have to. Yep. That pick was not his fault, though. That was actually a great pass that he threw that bounced off his receiver's hand. But they just have... It feels like their offensive line issues with injuries and everything, they're just...

Maybe Nick Chubb fixes a lot of it. I don't know. He is fun to root for. At least you get that back if you're Browns fan. He is on his way back. If you can't get Jameis in the game, a fun guy to root for is Nick Chubb. Yeah. Yeah, the flag was bullshit on the Murray Cooper. So yeah, the Browns should have won this game, but still they're bad vibes. Also, credit to the Raiders. I know the business decision thing, but they probably had the opposite of players only meeting this week. Yeah. Where it's just like coaches, you have to listen to all the coaches talk to you all the time. All the time. And it's...

It paid off for him These are the kind of games That Antonio Pierce Will have your team win Yeah Like the real ugly ones I loved it I give the Raiders A better than 50% chance In every 50-50 game Mm-hmm Agreed Do we have Johnny Fanta?

Oh, yeah, Fanta. We saved this. We started PFT and I were sitting in here by ourselves and we started to play it and then we're like, you know what? Let's save it so we can react with the people. This is becoming one of my favorite Sunday night traditions is just pulling up John Fanta's Twitter and seeing how he reacted to another heartbreaking Browns loss. This one is two minutes and 14 seconds. Okay, that's fine. Listen, you give me two hours of Fanta, I'll take it. Okay, I'm just letting you know. Okay.

Also, someone messed around with this TV. Oh, so it's not working? You're just seeing yourself, right? Yeah, we see ourselves. It's kind of nice. But you can't see? No, can't see anything. I just want to hear Fanta. Yeah, let's just hear him. I'll use my imagination. He looks like Fanta. I'm doing a deep fake inside my brain. Sad and sickened. I'm ill.

For the Browns fans who spent their hard-earned money and ventured across America to go watch that. They're in Vegas. And a 1-3 team. A team that comes out every Sunday and, like clockwork, can go right down the field on their opponent. The Cleveland Browns scored a touchdown on their opening drive. They then went and scored a field goal. From there, the offense produced nothing. Not a thing. Nothing.

It's not Deshaun Watson's fault on this Sunday. It's not. Thought this was one of his best performances as a Cleveland Brown. 176 yards. And I think that that just makes you feel how much more painful about this loss because...

It's across the team. 260 days ago, this organization was in a playoff game. Oh. And as we sit and talk right now, they're 1-3 with losses in back-to-back weeks to the Giants and the Raiders. Oh.

It still feels like they're trying to feel everything out on offense. There's more organization on the Las Vegas Strip at 3 a.m. on a Saturday than there is with this team in-game offensively. They can't score. They can't score. They have failed to reach 20 points in a game. One and three. A lost season. I'm sad and I'm sickened. And now you think to yourself...

What are the consequences about to be for this organization as this year goes on? Because it doesn't feel like they have leadership. It feels like they're soul searching. Defense, you made a big effort in the fourth quarter. I can appreciate that. But you're losing the Giants and Raiders. You were in the playoffs 260 days ago. I'm ready for playoff baseball. End of Sunday.

I love it. Fanta. I think he's pretty level-headed about this. That can't score! That can't score! He put on a Guardians hat. Oh, he did? Good. I love it. He feels bad for the fans who spent their hard-earned dollar. I love that. Nobody watches out for the fans' dollar like Fanta. Also, Vegas, like, not a bad, you know, you went to Vegas for the weekend. Maybe a lot of those Browns fans made money. Yeah. They probably did. Yeah. That's a good point. Maybe they bet against the Browns.

Would have been a great point. Business decision game. Also, the Raiders did this without Max Crosby. Yeah, Max Crosby and Devontae Adams. Without Devontae Adams. So the Devontae Adams, it felt like a weird announcement of his injury, right? It was back-to-back. Anybody else get weird vibes about that? On Wednesday, I believe it was, they were just like, oh yeah, these two guys are out. The best two players on the Raiders. Yeah, and to win this game, that's the Antonio Pierce factor. Memes definitely thinks Devontae Adams is getting traded to the Jets. Wow.

100% he thinks that's happening. Yes. And for what? Son Redick. Oh, I don't hate that. Yeah, the Raiders would have a dominant defensive line. We would get a dominant receiver. Three great pass rushers. He would just still throw it to Alan Lazard. Oh, he'd still throw it to Alan Lazard? Yeah. Well, no, Devontae Adams is just, you know,

A souped up Alan Lazard. It's still Rodgers guy. You're right. He's still one third. Would you trade Devante Adams for Garrett Wilson? No. I mean, Devante Adams is more accomplished. I think I was older. I think I would. I think I'd like saying the contracts are equal. It's clear that Aaron Rodgers does not like Garrett Wilson. That is clear. Yeah. Yeah.

So get him a guy they like. I think maybe the Raiders have thrown a pick. If they traded Hassan Redick, I would like that move for the Raiders to get that guy because they would essentially be building an entire defense out of just pissing off Patrick Mahomes. Like, we're going to build our defense just to beat the fuck out of this one guy. It would work. I think you've got to try to get Devontae Adams to go all in. You're in an all-in mindset, Memes. You're right. You're right. We should just get him.

Get Hassan out, not out of the building, just off the team. He's not in the building. Yeah, I correct myself. He's never been in there. Yeah. He literally doesn't even know what you guys look like. You had a question, BFT? I had a question for Memes. Memes, do you still have Super Bowl aspirations? No, because Robert Salah can't prepare for more than two weeks, so we would just lose. But Super Bowl's in the dome.

It's in a dome, but he has time to prepare, and he can't prepare. It's too much time. It's too much time. Too much time. If we won the AFC Championship on a Sunday and played on Thursday, we would win. Yeah, that's fair. True. Unless the other team was coming from a different time zone. That's also true. All right, last game. Chiefs, Chargers. Chiefs, 17. Chargers, 10. The Chiefs own the Chargers. The Chargers have never beaten the Chiefs in L.A.,

The Chiefs have beaten the Chargers 11 straight times on the road. That's pretty crazy. 11 straight. And Justin Herbert was, you know, he played, he gutted it out. No Joe Alt, no Rashawn Slater. It was pretty clear the Chargers offense was hampered. Couldn't really do anything after the first quarter.

And then we had, obviously, Patrick Mahomes, a big story. Patrick Mahomes threw an interception and then fell into Rasheed Rice's knee, and that looked bad. Yeah, so Rasheed Rice is going to be out for a while. Andy Reid said, doesn't look good. I don't know what the MRI is going to show, but probably nothing good for the Chiefs offense.

And now they basically have Travis Kelsey and Xavier Worthy. Xavier Worthy, Travis Kelsey, and Noah Gray. And Noah Gray and Carson Steele. Doghouse. Crocky J. Doghouse, Kareem Hunt. No, yeah, Carson Steele's Doghouse. He fumbled again. Oh, yeah, that's Doghouse. It was his second fumble in the last three games. He's Doghouse. Doghouse. Where do alligators get put in when they fuck up?

I don't know. Pair of boots. Pair of boots. Yeah, pair of boots. He's in a pair of boots. Yeah, it's P. Ryan and Kareem Hunt until he gets out of the doghouse. So they got to figure out what they're going to do at wide receiver, though.

Devontae Adams. Devontae Adams. They would never. The Chiefs would never. What if they got Chris Jones for Devontae Adams? I don't think they would do that. Probably not. But Chris Jones was a beast today. Yeah, he's a monster. Whatever blocking scheme the Chargers dialed up to try to take care of him, it was one-on-one, I think, for the most part. And he was just fucking their lives up at the end. It's also pretty clear that these Chiefs are just going to win every game, but it's going to be ugly. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. They were down 10-0 very fast this game. Yeah. Oh, should we get this? Are the Chiefs frauds? They haven't beaten any really good teams. Ravens. That's right. They beat the Ravens. Not frauds. And the Bengals, who do you think are back? But they weren't back when they played the Chiefs.

They were not dead, though. That was those Bengals, not these Bengals. Yeah, no, the Chiefs, I think, are just they know how to win territory. Yeah. So speaking of which, Patrick Mahomes just had his 100th career regular season start. How many wins does he have out of 100? 82. 82.

Close. Oh, I was going to say, I think Hank's right. 78. That's pretty good. Pretty crazy. 78-22. That's nice. That is very nice for Chiefs fans. That's a lot, a lot, a lot of wins. He's so good. If it's a one-possession game, the Chiefs are winning. Yeah. That's just how it goes. If they're down at any point in the game, he's winning. I actually think I saw that stat that he's the only quarterback to have a winning record overall down. I've got to find this stat. It was crazy. Down 10-12.

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I got to find the better one. I think it was like he's 13-12 now, I think, when losing by 10. And there was a stat where it was like Tom Brady was –

20 and 60 when losing by 10s. Like, it just, it doesn't matter for him. Yeah, he's the best. And he hasn't had statistically his best season. No. And that pass to Xavier Worthy was sick. Stats are for losers. That pass to Xavier Worthy was, it was just back-breaking if you're a fan of any team but the Chiefs who might play the Chiefs in the playoffs. Yeah. Because you're like, we can't guard this guy. We can't deal with that. Uh...

Do you think... Oh, he's 12-0 in games where they go down by exactly 10 points. That's crazy. Yeah. How is that possible? Because then he scores a touchdown, and then your defense or your offense then feels pressured, and then you punt the ball back, and then Harrison Bucker kicks a field goal from 60 yards. Also, that was a gymnast stat, and he was wrong. Okay. But it sounds good. 18-14 overall when trailing by 10-plus. That's crazy. Mm-hmm.

8-5 in games trailing by exactly 10 at some point. Also crazy. Yeah. So it doesn't matter. Can Rasheed Rice go to Germany? They have the Autobahn over there. It is kind of like if anyone else does that, it's not a big story. Yeah. Patrick Mahomes throws an interception and then takes out his best receiver in the same play. That's just Patrick Mahomes doing Patrick Mahomes things. You have to admit that. It's Patrick Mahomes stepping in when Goodell wouldn't. Yeah. He's doing shit that no one could even think of. Yeah. Yeah.

Blame the lumber. All right, so...

Should we talk real quick about Monday Night Football? We had a doubleheader. And this one, I'm very happy we have a doubleheader because if we had Titans-Dolphins alone, we would be in a world of hurt. Yep. A world of hurt. So, any thoughts? I think the Lions are going to be good. They're wearing their all-black uniforms. That's all I need to hear. Yep. I like the Lions, too. And the other game, I don't have a fucking clue who's going to win that game. Tyler Huntley, if he plays, maybe the Dolphins. Yeah, scoop.

Is that what they call him? Snoop. Snoop. Snoop Huntley. Who knows? Like, that game stinks. So, interesting fact here. Will Levis, so he's had some crazy Jameis slash full-blooded Josh Allen type turnovers where he makes, like, really insanely athletic turnovers and does it in only ways that, like, a good athlete could do it, but they still look ridiculous. He's only had three turnover-worthy plays this year.

Oh. That's kind of weird, isn't it? That is pretty weird. So Will Levis might not be... What determines turnover? Nerds. Nerds that watch the game and then log in on a spreadsheet. I think at Pro Football Focus. I think they're the ones that do it. Yeah.

It's like Sam Donald had a turnover-worthy play when he threw it to the Packer at the beginning of the game today, but he just dropped it. So, like Hank, Patrick Mahomes is actually really good historically at throwing turnover-worthy plays that aren't turnovers. And it might be because the defense is so surprised that Patrick Mahomes just threw them a possible interception. Yes. They freak out and they don't catch it. But I get the feeling like Hank doesn't believe in any of that. No stat. It's kind of the same. Turnover luck. No. Doesn't happen. Okay.

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Might have jinxed them on Friday after winning 5-0 Thursday. They lost 5 on Friday, tied it up, but then we dominated Saturday, dominated Sunday, won the President's Cup. We're the President's Cup champions. Hell yes. Can we say world champions? No, because we lost Ryder Cup.

Yeah. We're half of the world champions. We've got to hold both cups. What is the President's Cup against? Who is it against? Internationals. Everybody except Europe. Asia? Asia, Australia, Canada. Mexico? I think so. South America? I don't think there was South America representation. Was Vijay there? Did Vijay show up? Vijay's not there. Vijay's on the senior tour. Vijay. That guy's a fuck.

Baller. He practiced so much. Did you see Max Homa's shot today? No. He eagled the first one. Homa had an eagle on one. Fuck yes. He was sick, yeah. That's what Max does. Then he was slamming brewskis on the course afterwards. Hell yes. Guy's guy. So, not the Ryder Cup. Ryder Cup's next fall. Confirmed. You confirmed it. Well, yeah. I just kind of made up when I thought the President's Cup was. That was wrong, but I know for sure. And then the next year, 2026...

Medina, President's Cup. Love that. Oh, nice. Now, why did the president decide that we're going to go up against NFL Sunday for his cup? I don't know. Because I think they teed off at noon, right? Yeah, that was dumb. Saturday was nice because they had it on in the morning and the afternoon. So it was just on all day. And then I was hoping Sunday it was going to be like a wake up.

8 to 12 golf and then football, but they didn't start till 1140, which was not the smartest. I know there's no good way to fix this, but it is kind of bizarre that golf has golf on at the exact times that people want to be out playing golf. Yeah. I've always thought that should be night golf. Yeah. Night golf. Like your built in fan base. Tiger tried to do that. He did. Didn't he do a dual indoor in the desert? I want to say dual in the desert.

Well, they have the golf league coming out soon. Duel in the Desert. Is that the one with Liv where they have the partnership in place? No, this is the indoor thing. Yeah. You and Rory's company. It's going to be great. Sick. Cool, Hank. Golf's back. No, just America. Oh, yeah. I think I was right. Do you have any pride? What? Do you have any national pride? I don't care about beating... I don't care about beating...

And what are who else? Australia, Canada. No, we got to be Europe. That's where the fucking, those are the guys that we have bad blood with. I want to beat. I want to beat Rory. There were some very rude spectators this week at the golf. One guy said something disparaging about Scotty Scheffler's wife. What? And then Scotty Scheffler's caddy got up in his face, had him kicked out. Stu Feiner will fuck that guy up. He'll, he will. Well, first he'll lick your butthole. Then he'll lick a clit. Then he'll fuck you up. Yeah.

Oh, it was Monday Night Golf. They did Monday Night Golf from 99 to 2005. They tried to do this. Tiger did. And they did a bunch of Monday Night heads-up battles. Battle of Bighorn. Sounds like... Is that... Game of Thrones? No, I was going to say that's Civil War. It's an actual battle. Yeah, yeah. Battle of Bighorn. Yeah. So why don't...

Why don't they do night golf but on an actual outside course and use like a glow-in-the-dark ball? Yeah, they should. Probably tough to broadcast. Cosmic golf. Cosmic golf. But then you got to worry about if your tiger semen on your pants. That's true. Black lights. Black lights show a lot. Okay, PFT, your who's back. My who's back of the week. I have a Monday reading for this as well. Oh, okay. Dumb rule changes. Nice. And this fits into Monday Night Football where we have the Miami Dolphins.

who are not playing so well right now. I don't know if we talked about this on this show, but this was a Reddit post from two, it looks like 273 days ago. Oh, is this the tragedy? Yeah. Yeah. Did we talk about that on this podcast? I think we did, but we could read it again. I'll rehash a little bit. Should the Miami Dolphins kill five of their players to trigger a disaster draft to improve their roster? Yeah.

The NFL disaster draft is a contingency plan to be used when five or more players on a team have died or been dismembered.

In the draft, the team whose players died will be able to draft the amount of players from other teams equivalent to how many they had lost. Other teams, though, are only allowed to protect five players from being drafted, but many teams have good six men that are available. With the Dolphins having bad contracts on underperforming players such as Xavier and Howard, but they could also just kill backups or practice squad players to fill out those five kills to get the disaster draft. Also, according to Roger Goodell, the team would also get the first pick in next year's draft.

Listen...

Bears could do it for some offensive linemen. The entire line? Yeah, I mean, I love these fan loopholes that they find. Disaster. Like the former ring around Steph Curry guys. Yeah. The Reddit geniuses, there is something. And when your team is in a bad spot, sometimes you just need to start writing fan fiction for yourself. Yeah, I mean, this obviously was probably put in place for like an airplane tragedy or something. Yeah. But it's...

We ended up with just fans being like, what if we just killed some of our players? I think it is interesting that they have a disaster draft. Yeah. That's a contingency that they have in place. My other who's back of the week is Soupy. It's soup season. Nice. I had soup twice this weekend. Hell yeah. Ramen and pho. The weather's starting to change a little bit. October's here.

I'm thinking soup. Yeah. I'm just eating soup. And I might go back to the soup and salad diet every day, which is a great way to lose weight. I love that. Eat soup or salad for every meal. I love that. Soup's so good. I'm in with you. Soup is delicious. What's the weather tomorrow? Forecast is soup. Okay. I'm in. I got two who's backs. One is well-

We just need to... We're going to talk college football on Wednesday, but that Georgia-Alabama game was so fucking good. And Ryan Williams was literally in the Matrix. Some of the moves he made were insane. His spin moves are the complete opposite of Trevor Lawrence's. I've never seen anyone... He had his back to the defenders. Like, he was playing post-up pickup basketball in an SEC football game and still just did a quick move and then got out of it. Yeah, credit to Georgia for battling back because...

A lot of teams would have quit at that point down to Alabama. The dogs. The question has to be asked about...

DeBoer are the Crimson Tide better without Nick Saban. Was Nick Saban holding Alabama back? There were two gentlemen sitting on this couch to do our college football preview and they laughed at the idea that Alabama could be really good with Jalen, Jalen Milrow and Kaelin DeBoer's as his coach. I like Jalen Miller a lot. He's grown on me a lot. And he's, he's dynamic. Yes. I, he,

You shouldn't be able to run sideways in an SEC football game and get away with it. Yeah. And he does it multiple times a game because he's that fast. Yeah. Carson Beck tried to run sideways a couple times. Didn't work. No. No. Oh,

I have a theory on Carson Beck. I think the tattoos are too much for a quarterback. That's just not a quarterback's look. You sound like Jerry Richardson, but I agree. It's not. If you have tattoos on your throwing arm. Right. The sleeve is... That tells me that you definitely took at least a few hours away from practice. Correct. Correct. All right, and then my other who's back is our dingers only league because...

Tomorrow, we have the Mets-Braves doubleheader, and the Mets-Braves doubleheader will be huge because it decides if they split, they both go to the playoffs, so they should do a gentleman's agreement. If one team wins both games, the Diamondbacks will join that team who's won both games in the playoffs. But right now, our

Our dingers only is set in the fact that Max is so, so bad. He was 40 home, almost 40 home runs in last place. So Max will be pitching. We'll be doing a video. Max will be pitching, trying to get six outs against a college baseball team. Reach out. Reach out. Hit us up. The worst part for Max is that he's not going to have Max in center field for him. Correct. Because Max was the star of last year's. Correct. And then second place is the catcher.

And right now, PFT is in second place. He's up one on me. But I have Marcel Azuna playing in a doubleheader tomorrow. So we could tie. Or I could win. You could win. Or I could lose. Or you could lose. And it's all on Azuna. Yeah.

I would rather lose. And what terrifies me, he's a much, much better baseball player than he is a human being. Yes. And I don't want to catch again. Yeah. So I think that pitching is better than catching. Yeah. Big time. Hank, do you agree? You seem to nod your head aggressively. You're a catcher or a pitcher? You are a pitcher. Okay, nice.

Yeah. Max, do you still bring the heat? No, never did. Oh, okay. I like this, Max. That's fine, though. He's just subdued with like a he's just got a hangover sitting on top of his brain. And he's like, you can see him get angry, but his brain is working so slow that he can't fully get there. Yeah. You just hit the nail on the head. It's great. I don't know. It's like I wouldn't want it all the time.

But it's like we almost have a lobotomized Max. Yeah. Basically. Max, are you going to train for this? No. What? No. Because you might have to throw a lot of pitches. That's fine. I've thrown a lot of pitches in my day. Okay. You got this, Max. Yeah. I'll get smoked, but it'll be fun. It'll be fun. Yeah. It doesn't sound like it's going to be fun. No. It was fun last year, though, when Max was in center field.

Yeah, I could be out there for a while. Yeah. All right. Let's wrap up numbers. Five. Eleven. Forty. You want to talk Carl Anthony Towns quick? Oh, yes. Thank you, Mims. Good call. So on Friday, it was reported that Cat is going to be traded to the Knicks in exchange for Dante and who? Julius Randle? Julius Randle, yes. Yeah. So, Mims, you're a fan of the Knicks. Yes.

Was your initial reaction like mine, which is basically that Cat could not be a worse fit for this team? My initial reaction was good, and then the follow-up tweet was Dante DiVincenzo was in it, and then I was immediately sad. Yeah. But Dante DiVincenzo apparently was like the...

the out member of... He was the fourth member of the Nova Knicks. Yeah, but he was just such a stud last year. Such a solid piece. Do you think Cat is a bad fit just because New York is just going to eat him alive? I think Tibbs is going to eat him alive. But he already had him as a coach. Yeah. That was more Jimmy Butler. I guess.

I just don't see Cat fitting in with this Knicks team. Maybe I might be very wrong about this. I do think New York's going to need him a lot. I've had much worse sports takes in my life. No, I mean, I agree that it was weird when I saw it, but then I was reading there was some report that was like Dante DiVincenzo kind of wanted it because he was...

He was basically, he had this incredible run last year at the end of the season, and then he was going to get bench minutes. He wants to go be the guy. And everyone's going to be like, Nova Knicks, Nova Knicks. He's like, I don't really want to do this anymore. Is that true? That's what I read. I think that is true. Maybe Nova teammates aren't as tight as some people led us to believe. I think the Josh Hart, Jalen Brunson, and... Dante also had kind of beef with Josh Hart at some point during his tenure at...

They said that they squashed it. Josh Hart, Jalen Brunson, Mikhail Bridges. That's the three. That's the Nova Knicks. Dante is on the outside. So when you say that New York is going to eat him alive, what do you mean? I think Knicks fans are going. I mean, they were really mean to Julius Randle. And like if Kat, I just don't. And he dominates. Oh, is that true? Dominates Kat. Oh, that's nice, Maxie.

That's nice. Yeah, the numbers are crazy. That's nice. What are the numbers? I think Embiid is 8-2 against him, and he's averaging like 30-something a game, and Katz averages like 21. Like, it's not. Let me pull it up. That's nice. So, Memes, your thoughts?

After looking at the lineup, I think we do match up well against the number one team in the East, which is the Celtics now. And that's the goal of the trade. You match up against the best team, see how you fit, and go from there. We should ask Hank first. That was a bad job on my part. Hank, how do you feel about this trade? I don't think it affects much. I think New York's going to eat Cat alive, to Big Cat's point. And I don't see them, you know, solid team, great. Embiid will probably take his knees out as well.

And I'm not worried about them in the playoffs. They're eating the cats in New York City. Yes. I mean, he's... Carl Anthony Towns is a really good player, and he does... I would say the spacing probably should work a little bit better for Jalen Brunson. You'd think, right, Memes? Yes, you would think. We currently also don't have Seneca's and B... You know, Twis' knee. Ah, hmm.

Embiid twisted his knee? Yeah, he twisted his knee. And you guys lost Hardenstein? Hardenstein's on OKC. Yeah, the Thunder. Did Embiid really twist someone's knee? It's a contact game. All right. Good call, Memes. Numbers. 5. 40. 11. 29. 3. 99 per. PFT and Memes, you ever gotten this? I've not gotten it. 21. 74. No.

See everyone on Wednesday. Talk baseball. Love you guys.