Thomas Haines was a 50-year-old industrial supplies local sales manager, while his 47-year-old wife Lisa was a preschool teacher at Lancaster Brethren Preschool. The couple had a 20-year-old daughter named Maggie who had just completed her sophomore year at Bucknell University where she was studying biology and a 16-year-old son named Kevin who was a sophomore at Manheim Township High School. The family was a loving one, with the parents willing to help their children in any way they could. The family of four was enjoying the start of summer break but little did they know, a killer was lurking nearby who had an evil plan he was about to unfold. Join Cam and Jen as we discuss ‘Motiveless Murder: Haines Family Massacre’ on this episode of ‘Our True Crime Podcast.’Listener discretion by @octoberpodVHSMusic/EP by @wetalkofdreamsSources: Book: Kreider, Tim. Refuse to Drown.https://web.archive.org/web/20131012070538/http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news%2Flocal&id=5398048)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightmare_Next_Doorhttp://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0%2C%2C20214203%2C00.html[https://lancasteronline.com/news/local/alec-kreider-never-revealed-motive-for-killing-his-friend-friends-parents-in-brutal-2007-stabbing/article_cf578904-e195-11e6-80c1-5f1fae40c6f7.htm](https://lancasteronline.com/news/local/alec-kreider-never-revealed-motive-for-killing-his-friend-friends-parents-in-brutal-2007-stabbing/article_cf578904-e195-11e6-80c1-5f1fae40c6f7.html))[l](https://lancasteronline.com/news/local/alec-kreider-never-revealed-motive-for-killing-his-friend-friends-parents-in-brutal-2007-stabbing/article_cf578904-e195-11e6-80c1-5f1fae40c6f7.html))https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killer_Kids[https://web.archive.org/web/20070929083554/](https://web.archive.org/web/20070929083554/http://images.lancasteronline.com/local/205764snbaffidavit.tif))[http://images.lancasteronline.com/local/205764snbaffidavit.tif](https://web.archive.org/web/20070929083554/http://images.lancasteronline.com/local/205764snbaffidavit.tif))https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evil_Lives_Herehttps://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/01/father_of_triple_murderer_post.html[https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2244585/](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2244585/)) Unusual Suspectshttps://people.com/archive/rage-to-kill-vol-70-no-2/)https://lancasteronline.com/news/local/alec-kreider-commits-suicide-in-prison-was-serving-3-life-terms-for-brutal-manheim-township/article_91ad8c82-e183-11e6-8051-af868aee3ec1.html