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Rachel Maddow on Trump, Biden’s Dilemma & America’s Fascist History

2024/7/15
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卡拉·斯威舍是一位知名的媒体评论家和播客主持人，专注于科技和政治话题的深入分析。
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Rachel Maddow: 美国当前面临的斗争是与怀有威权主义意图的人的对抗。这场斗争与历史上美国与法西斯主义的斗争有着千丝万缕的联系。她认为，美国需要通过民主手段捍卫民主制度，对抗那些旨在建立反民主的美国并愿意使用反民主手段的人。她还指出，威权主义者通常利用民主手段获得权力，然后从内部瓦解民主制度，这需要内部人士的协助。反民主势力会潜伏起来，然后再次出现，美国缺乏对反民主势力进行彻底谴责的传统，导致他们能够不断卷土重来。她认为，忘记历史上的坏人会让他们再次出现。 Kara Swisher: 她提出了拜登总统是否应该退出竞选的问题，认为这是一个存在性问题，这引发了媒体和民主党内部的激烈辩论。她还关注了最高法院关于总统豁免权的裁决，认为这为总统杀害对手提供了途径，并且最高法院的裁决是共和党关于行政权力理念多年来发展的结果。 Timothy Ryback: 他指出，希特勒在自由公开的选举中从未获得超过37%的选票，而如今美国的民粹主义候选人却获得了接近50%的支持率，这引发了人们对美国极右翼势力根深蒂固程度的担忧。

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Rachel Maddow discusses the current American struggle as a moment where the country is questioning whether its democracy can defend itself against authoritarian intentions using democratic means.

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As unlikely as it may seem, until this episode was recorded, Kara Swisher and Rachel Maddow had never met. The two sat down for a riveting conversation that connects America’s unsavory and under-told authoritarian history with the unprecedented political peril we find ourselves in today.

After addressing the increasingly desperate calls for President Biden to step down from members of the media and his own party, Kara and Maddow turn to her latest project: the podcast Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra). It focuses on far-right extremism and Nazi propagandists in American politics during the 1930s to 1950s. It’s a story that she connects to the country’s present existential crisis — and one she looks to for guidance, as well. We ask her to explain. 

Please note — this interview was recorded prior the the assassination attempt on former President Trump on July 13th.

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