Rowdy protests, angry Republicans, a contested election. On this week's On the Media, we revisit another make-or-break moment in American democracy 24 years ago. Everybody is starting to lose patience with this election. The process seems doomed to work its slow and painful way through a series of courtrooms no matter what happens.
The punch hole is called a chad. It is attached to the ballot by four threads. Two corners of a chad had to be pushed for a vote to be considered. Now, the standard's been relaxed to just one, or even just a dimple. Republican demonstrators stormed the hallways and demanded access to the recount room. It certainly leaves Florida in a sort of legal state of limbo.
What can the Gore v. Bush fiasco teach us about partisan politics today? That's coming up after this.
From WNYC in New York, this is On The Media. Brooke Gladstone is out this week. I'm Michael Loewinger. It's mid-May, and as we head towards November, with the knowledge that at least one of the candidates is a sore loser, the fear of more post-election chaos looms large. To distract ourselves from all that, let's go back in time to another make-or-break moment for democracy. ♪
It started on the night of the presidential election, November 7, 2000.
when the national television networks called Florida for Vice President Al Gore. An important win for Vice President Al Gore. NBC News projects that he wins the 25 electoral votes in the state of Florida. This was roughly an hour after polls closed in the more Democratic voting peninsula, but 10 minutes before they closed in the Republican counties of the Panhandle. So, a reversal. What the networks give us, the networks take it away.
NBC News is now taking Florida out of Vice President Gore's column and putting it back in the too-close-to-call column. Later, they announced that the state had gone the other way. CNN declares that George Walker Bush has won Florida's 25 electoral votes. But later still...
All right, we're officially saying that Florida is too close to call because of a recall. In the early hours of the next day, Gore called Bush to concede, only to call him back to retract the concession when his advisors told him how close the count was in Florida. That evening's drama put in motion a series of events that would leave the United States without a named successor to Bill Clinton until December 13th.
To tell the story of what happened in the fraught intervening weeks, we turn to Fiasco, a podcast series known for poking at the conventional wisdom of a historical moment with deep reporting and firsthand accounts. In season one, host Leon Nafok tells the story of the Florida recount.
As Nafok explains, Florida law mandates a statewide machine recount whenever the margin between two candidates is less than one half of 1%. Bush's lead was just 1,784 votes out of almost 6 million cast. That's three one hundredths of 1% of the overall vote total.
After the recount was completed, George Bush led Al Gore by just 327 votes. So close. Gore's team demanded a hand recount for votes that couldn't be read by a machine.
The so-called undervotes, where a voter's ballot didn't record who they'd voted for. The punch hole is called a chad. It is attached to the ballot by four threads. If it had been detached by only one thread, it would not be counted as a vote. Before, two corners of a chad had to be pushed for a vote to be considered. Now, the standard's been relaxed to just one.
or even just a dimple. And the overvotes, where more than one candidate received votes on the same ballot. The butterfly ballot had candidates on the left and right side columns, but only down the middle were the punch holes.
Al Gore's name was second on the ballot on the left-hand side, but to vote for him, you punched the third hole. And many voters said that it was confusing, that they ended up voting for two people instead of one. The recount would take place in Miami-Dade, Broward, Palm Beach, and Volusia, four of the biggest counties in Florida with a total of 1.9 million ballots. Leon picks up the story from here.
In the weeks after Election Day, an overwhelming majority of Americans said they were closely following the Florida recount. But staying up on the latest developments could feel like cramming for an exam. The procedural debates between the two parties and the intricacies of Florida law could be a bit much.
So the judge says the 5 o'clock deadline stands, but it's not that simple because the judge also says if ballots... Natalie, all of what John Zarello just explained was complicated, but it did seem to be a little bit consistent. But there was more, and it was murkier.
There were just so many names and subplots to keep track of. There are so many claims and counterclaims, so many numbers flying through the air. Well, we hope you all have your scorecards out because this one's getting more complicated all the time. And no one knew how long it was going to take to resolve. Everybody is starting to lose patience with this election. The process seems doomed to work its slow and painful way through a series of courtrooms no matter what happens. It certainly leaves Florida in a sort of legal state of limbo.
The worst part might have been how impossible it was to talk about the recount without using all these horrible bureaucratic phrases, like certification deadline and canvassing board and advisory opinion. This deadening jargon was not just a problem for journalists trying to make the recount story exciting or at least legible. It was also a problem for the two campaigns. Both of them needed to frame the churn of the recount on their terms and to do so in ways that had at least some emotional resonance.
Democrats found that emotional resonance early with the butterfly ballots in Palm Beach. It was easy to comprehend how terrible it might feel to know that you wasted your vote in such a close race. But about 10 days after the election, the Republicans found an emotional rallying point of their own. And they found it in something exquisitely boring sounding called overseas absentee ballots.
The postmarks come from all over the world. Votes usually overlooked. This year, they could determine the election. More than 6 million Americans live overseas, which is roughly the size of the population of the Commonwealth of Virginia. Just how many of those absentee ballots are out there still to be counted? And who will get how many of them? Overseas absentee ballots were used by American citizens living abroad. In recent presidential elections, the state of Florida had received between 1,500 and 3,000 of them.
In a normal election, that was not a lot of votes. But in 2000, when it became clear that overseas absentee ballots could determine the outcome of the race, they were thrust into the center of a bitter confrontation between the two campaigns. There are battles going on in county offices all over the state. We've heard reports of county officials screaming at each other as Democrats and Republicans go to the mat for every overseas absentee vote.
The process for tabulating overseas absentee ballots in Florida followed its own special timeline, one that was intended to compensate for the fact that mail coming in from far away takes a long time to get where it's going. Here's Mark Herron, a lawyer who became an expert on overseas absentee ballots while working with the Gore recount team. In Florida, you could continue to receive and count overseas absentee ballots until 10 days after the election if they had been postmarked prior to
The voters who used overseas absentee ballots tended to belong to one of several distinct groups: American diplomats working at foreign embassies, American Jews living in Israel, expats in general, and U.S. military personnel stationed abroad. The Gore team expected many of the overseas ballots to come from this last group and that they would overwhelmingly favor Bush. The military people were generally more conservative in terms of their viewpoints on the world.
than Democrats, and I guess the thinking would be that the military folks would vote for Bush as opposed to Gore. As overseas absentee ballots poured into Florida's 67 county canvassing boards, the Gore team worried that their opponents would try to take advantage of the system. There were reports and rumors that planes, military planes, were flying into Panama City, stuffed with overseas ballots that had not been postmarked prior to Election Day.
No evidence of such organized ballot stuffing ever emerged. But at the time, anything seemed possible. So higher-ups on the Gore recount team asked Herron to do some research and write up a detailed memo. Under what circumstances would it be appropriate, according to Florida law, to challenge the validity of an overseas absentee ballot? The intended audience for Herron's memo was a network of Democratic lawyers helping the Gore campaign around the state.
When Florida's 67 counties started going through their overseas absentee ballots, these lawyers would be responsible for challenging incomplete or illegal ones.
They could use it when they appeared before the canvassing boards and say, hey, this one here can't be counted because it isn't signed. This one here can't be counted because there's no postmark that indicates that it was mailed or transmitted prior to the close of Election Day. Or it has a postmark that's after Election Day and therefore it can't be accepted.
In its first paragraph, Herron's memo specifically mentioned members of the armed forces, along with other citizens of the United States who are temporarily residing outside the country. The memo went out to a group of Democratic Party lawyers on November 15th, with the expectation that it would stay among friends. But less than 48 hours later, a copy made its way to Bush headquarters in Tallahassee. The Republicans instantly recognized it as a major opportunity.
Here was a Gore lawyer providing instructions on how to disqualify votes sent in by American soldiers.
the indignant TV appearances practically booked themselves. — The vice president's lawyers have gone to war, in my judgment, against the men and women who serve in our armed forces. — I'm tired of hearing Democrats saying, "Including Al Gore, count every vote." And yet they're all over the state of Florida challenging thousands of our military votes. — The Bush team pushed the story to every news outlet they could and organized press conferences to publicize the issue. — We are concerned that a targeted effort by the Democratic Party
sought to throw out as many as a third of the overseas absentee ballots received since Election Day. Many of them, the votes of the men and women of our United States Armed Forces who are serving the cause of freedom throughout the world. — The Herron memo, as it came to be known, instantly broke through the static of recount coverage. And if you're wondering how the Bush communications team turned a phrase as cumbersome as "overseas absentee ballots" into a hot issue,
The answer is they didn't have to, because they could call them military ballots instead. The Democrats have launched a statewide effort to throw out as many military ballots as they can. Democratic lawyers had been given guidelines on how to challenge military ballots, and the wife of one sailor spoke out. It was the first that he had heard that his ballot was one of the votes that did not count.
I don't think it's too cynical or unfair to wonder how the Gore team didn't see this coming. But Herron really thought that all he was doing was summarizing this corner of Florida election law so that Gore's lawyers on the ground would know what they were dealing with. Now the campaign was being accused of trying to disenfranchise men and women in uniform. By using the Herron memo as the basis for a PR onslaught against Gore, the Bush team wasn't just trying to score points on cable news or win hearts and minds. They were generating pressure that would make the law work to their advantage.
Believe it or not, one of Al Gore's most effective advocates in 2000 was his running mate, Joe Lieberman. During the recount, while Gore strategized with his lawyers behind the scenes, Lieberman appeared on TV as something between an attack dog and a cheerleader.
Day after day, he defended the Democratic line and calmly predicted that when all the votes were counted, he and Gore would be victorious. We think we won. If we think if all the votes in Florida are counted, not only will we have won the popular vote in America, Al Gore and I, would have won the election. Maybe our opponents think that too, and that's why they don't want those votes to be counted. With Gore facing intense criticism over Mark Herron's memo, the campaign looked to Lieberman to come in and play the enforcer.
On Saturday, November 18th, Lieberman was briefed on the Herron memo over the phone. And the next morning, he appeared on Meet the Press with Tim Russert. Senator Joseph Lieberman is with us. Welcome back. Morning, Tim. Still a senator, not vice president. Russert brought up the Herron memo almost immediately. And people are very, very concerned. They point to a memo written by Mark Herron, a lawyer who...
assist the Gore campaign, telling Democratic lawyers, this is how you knock out ballots from military people overseas. They don't have a postmark right. To the Gore operatives in Tallahassee watching Lieberman's appearance on TV, the answer was obvious. He was getting pounded, and the answer should have been, we're for counting all votes that were cast on before Election Day. This is Nick Baldick, one of Gore's top lieutenants in Florida.
You know, there are procedures to make sure that illegal votes don't come in after, and those should be upheld. That would have been roughly the response I would have given. It was not the response he gave. Instead, Lieberman took a trip to Waffle City. He didn't even try to defend the campaign.
or make the argument for enforcing election law in the way Herron's memo had suggested. Again, Al Gore and I don't want to ever be part of anything that would put an extra burden on the military personnel abroad. My sense is, as Joe Lieberman said this morning, count those... Baldick watched in disbelief as Lieberman threw Mark Herron and the Gore campaign as a whole under the bus.
Here's Baldick again.
I mean, I remember screaming at the television, being very angry when lots of people working with me, young people, volunteers, had been across 67 counties trying to uphold the law and make sure the ballots from Maryland and ones that were sent were
Obviously, after Election Day, we're not counted illegally. And they were screamed at and called unpatriotic and had batteries thrown at them. And Senator Lieberman sold all those people out by just caving on that morning. Herron, who was also watching the interview from Gore headquarters, did not take it well. It was like I'd been kicked in the stomach. I was quite sick, so to speak. And at that point in time, I had to leave the building and walk around Tallahassee for a while.
I just couldn't believe what he had done. Lieberman told me in an interview that he still remembers meeting with Gore after his TV appearance. And it was actually, as I recall, the only time during the whole campaign when Al seemed to be disappointed in something I had done.
But Lieberman maintains he did the right thing, the patriotic thing, the morally defensible thing, by distancing the campaign from the Heron Memo. We Democrats believe in the franchise, and in fact, in other parts of Florida, we're fighting because we're alleging that the Republican officials prevented some people from voting. Setting aside the legal merits of the Heron Memo, Lieberman says that he was concerned about how the campaign would look if he stood by it.
What if Democrats ended up winning the White House and American soldiers believed that their own commander-in-chief had tried to disenfranchise them? Lieberman wanted the campaign to commit to its count-every-vote mantra, even as he saw Republicans making contradictory arguments of their own. Because both sides were being...
The Republicans were calling for technical adherence to the law in some parts of the state about cutting ballots, but they were saying, oh, you got to go a little easy on these soldiers. We were saying in some parts of the state, you got to go a little easy on these voters, particularly minority voters, and not exclude them from voting. But in this case, we were saying, this is the letter of the law. So these absentee ballots can't be counted.
After Lieberman's appearance on Meet the Press, other Democrats joined him in calling for a lenient standard on military ballots. — That's the order from Florida Attorney General Bob Butterworth. — Among them was Bob Butterworth, the Democratic Attorney General of Florida. — Saying no man or woman in military service to this nation should have his or her vote rejected solely due to the absence of a postmark. — It was not exactly a legal victory for Republicans, since neither Lieberman nor Butterworth had authority over any aspect of the recount.
But symbolically, it was devastating. The public relations fight over rejected overseas absentee ballots. On NBC's Meet the Press, Joe Lieberman supports giving them, quote, the benefit of the doubt. While the Gore campaign tried to play defense on overseas absentee ballots, the hand recount of regular old domestic ballots was continuing in fits and starts. The four counties where Gore had requested recounts were all at different stages of the process.
Palm Beach and Broward had been added for several days. Volusia was already done. In Miami-Dade, on the other hand, things were about to get turbulent. Coming up, Republican protesters stormed the offices where the recount is taking place in the now infamous Brooks Brothers riot. This is On The Media. This episode is brought to you by Progressive. Most of you aren't just listening right now. You're driving, cleaning, and even exercising. But what if you could be saving money by switching to Progressive?
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This is On the Media. I'm Michael Loewinger. Before the break, we heard that things were not going well for the Miami-Dade recount. Here's host Leon Nafok. The logistics of the recount in Miami-Dade were pretty much the same as in Palm Beach. After going through a 1% sample of the overall vote, approximately 6,000 ballots, the canvassing board debated whether or not to conduct a full manual recount.
After some hesitation, they decided to proceed. Miami-Dade County, under pressure from the Gore campaign, decided that it too will recount ballots by hand, meaning that heavily Democratic Florida counties will be recounting more than 1.7 million ballots. The recount began on Monday, November 20th, two days after the big Florida-Florida state football game. And at first, it looked like they might actually get it done.
This was a very happy development for Al Gore. As long as ballots were being counted, it meant he still had a chance of picking up new votes and eating into Bush's lead. — Al Gore has picked up a net gain of 18 votes, but there are 614 precincts total that must be recounted. — The next night, just before 10 o'clock, the Gore team received even more good news, this time from Tallahassee, where the Florida Supreme Court had just issued a ruling.
Good evening. My name is Craig Waters. I'm the spokesman for the Florida Supreme Court. I'm now going to read to you a statement that was authorized by the entire court. The court holds that amended certifications from the county... At this point, the manual recounts Gore had requested were being threatened by the Florida Secretary of State, who was refusing to accept what she called late vote counts. A few days earlier, the Florida Supreme Court had stepped in and blocked Catherine Harris from certifying the election results until they could weigh in.
Oral arguments had been held on Monday, November 20th. The central question at hand was whether Katherine Harris had acted improperly by refusing to accept late vote totals from the three counties still conducting hand counts. And now the seven justices of the Florida Supreme Court had handed down a unanimous ruling. They were siding with Gore.
The court saying hand counts in three Florida counties must be included in the state vote totals. This was a huge and potentially decisive victory for the Gore campaign. The court holds that amended certifications from the county canvassing boards must be accepted by the election canvassing commission. As part of their ruling, the court set a new certification deadline of Sunday, November 26th at 5 p.m.
thereby giving the canvassing boards in Miami-Dade, Palm Beach, and Broward five more days to count ballots. The ruling further specified that if the Secretary of State's office was not open on that Sunday, the counties could turn in their vote totals on the following Monday morning at 9 a.m. Until 9 a.m. on November 27th.
But that wasn't all. In addition to granting the deadline extension, the justices also ruled that hyper-technical adherence to voting instructions was less important than the intent of the voter. The fundamental purpose of election laws, the court wrote in its opinion, was to facilitate and safeguard the right of each voter to express his or her will.
Gore celebrated the ruling as a major victory. The Florida Supreme Court has now spoken, and we will move forward now with a full, fair, and accurate count of the ballots in question. Our democracy is the winner tonight. The Bush side was apoplectic. As they saw it, the Florida Supreme Court had just retroactively changed Florida election law by pushing back the certification deadline.
To the Republicans, that looked like a violation of the U.S. Constitution, which said that election laws had to be in place before the voters went to the polls, and they were to be drafted by state legislatures, not state courts. Just before midnight on the night of the ruling, James Baker, the head of the Bush recount effort, offered some pointed thoughts at a press conference in Tallahassee. It is not fair to change the election laws of Florida by judicial fiat after the election has been held.
It is simply not fair, ladies and gentlemen, to change the rules, either in the middle of the game or after the game has been played. Bush's supporters and media surrogates moved swiftly to paint the Florida Supreme Court as a biased institution run by Democrats who were trying to swing the election toward Gore. Charles Wells, the chief justice of the Florida Supreme Court at the time, remembers one remark especially vividly. I had read a comment by...
Congressman at the time, Joe Scarborough from Pensacola, and his comment was, tonight the Florida Supreme Court declared war on the rule of law in Florida. Seven radical Democratic lawyers have chosen to ignore the clear intent of Florida's legislature and executive branches. It's a political war they want. It's a political war they should get.
Lost amid all this heated rhetoric was that the Florida Supreme Court ruling actually came with a major silver lining for the Bush campaign. Specifically, the part about how voter intent matters more than strict adherence to technical requirements provided Republicans with a perfect weapon with which to attack the Democrats on the issue of overseas absentee ballots. Prior to the ruling, Bush's lawyers had been having trouble persuading canvassing boards around the state to accept overseas absentee ballots that lacked signatures, proper postmarks, and so on.
a total of 1,420 ballots had been thrown out as of November 17th. Now, it seemed possible that hundreds of those ballots would be back on the table, and the deadline extension for certifying the election results gave the Bush lawyers time to make their case. To the Gore campaign's chagrin,
There was another way the Florida Supreme Court ruling turned out to benefit Bush, one that had nothing to do with overseas absentee ballots and everything to do with the ongoing recount in Miami. Because while the intention of the Supreme Court had been to give the counties more time, the Miami-Dade Canvassing Board had been banking on getting even more. In their initial estimate, the board had figured that the work of reviewing all 650,000 ballots in the county was going to take them until December 1st.
The new deadline of November 26th meant they had five fewer days than they'd budgeted for. And so, the morning after the Florida Supreme Court ruling came down, the canvassing board held a public meeting to review their options. The supervisor of elections was audibly anxious about how the recount process could be sped up. We could not, given our best efforts of this board, the best efforts of the county, the best efforts of all these people sitting here, complete...
The manual recount, the way we've been doing it, even adding more tables, adding more staff. After some discussion, one of the board members proposed an idea. What if instead of counting all the ballots by hand, the board did a recount of just the ambiguous ballots that the machines couldn't read?
By separating out the roughly 10,000 ballots that had not officially recorded a vote for president, the so-called undervotes, the board could focus their energies and their time on ballots that required human attention. And so the board voted unanimously to ditch the results of their two-day countywide recount and focus on 10,000 undervotes. And count the undercounted ballots approximately 10,750. It was a little before 9 a.m. when the board members decided to give the plan a whirl.
After explaining to everyone gathered in the counting room what they were doing, the three of them headed upstairs to a private area on the 19th floor to separate out the undervotes and start examining them. The Republican observers who had been helping with the count reacted to the board's announcement with profound suspicion. There were slow grumblings that, you know, wait, what? They're doing what? This is Lena McConkie Peltier. In 2000, she was a young lobbyist based in Washington, D.C., and like many of her Republican colleagues on Capitol Hill,
She flew down to Florida to lend a hand with the recount after the Bush campaign put out a call for volunteers. To take it, you know, behind closed doors and say they're going to finish the count, just, it stunk. ♪
Word spread quickly that the canvassing board was throwing some kind of curveball. The decision eliciting an angry response by Republicans. This is the most brazen attempt by the Gore people and the Democrat machine and the thugs in that building to hijack the American presidency. Outside the Clark Government Center, a crowd of Bush supporters had been protesting the recount for several days. They led chants of, no more Gore, waved American flags, and held up signs that said, sore loserman. Clark! Clark! Clark!
Overseeing the protest was a Republican operative named Brad Blakeman. He was huddled inside a parked RV in the plaza outside the Clark Center. Previously, Blakeman had worked for the Bush campaign as an advance man, basically a high-level event planner. Generally speaking, for W's presidential campaign, I was in charge of major media events. So I was in charge of the convention. I was in charge of the debates. I was in charge of major rallies. Once the recount started, Blakeman knew how to make himself useful. We saw a three-legged stool.
And we knew that this battle would be fought in the courts. We knew that this battle would be fought in the recount centers. But the leg that was missing was the public relations. Although the voting had ended, the campaign had not. When Blakeman caught wind of what the canvassing board was up to on the 19th floor, he got worried. The recount in Miami had already cut Bush's lead by about 150 votes. Who knew how many more Gore votes the board might find among the remaining undervotes? Blakeman decided to make a move.
When we found out that they were going to go to an expedited system and that we could very possibly lose the momentum and Gore would be ahead, we had to figure out what are we going to do? What are our options? And one of the options I thought of was, why don't we do what Democrats do? I said, let's do some civil disobedience. Let's have a sit-in. Let's create a ruckus.
When the canvassing board went up to the 19th floor, a procession of Republican protesters, mostly young men, streamed into the Clark Center and piled onto the elevators. All right, just to add a little more drama to the situation, Republican recount observers had a little scuffle with police this morning. Republican demonstrators stormed the hallways and demanded access to the recount room. And, you know, first we had to get permission. Spoke to the sheriff and the people that, you know, what we're going to do, why we're going to do it.
that we're not dangerous. A lot of us are lawyers. We're not going to be arrested. We're not there to be disrespectful. But we feel like we're being taken advantage of and that the system is not working and that this is something that we need to do, to send a message. Upstairs, the protesters join McConkie Peltier and the other Republican observers in demanding to be let into the counting room.
We're joined now by our Frank Buckley. He's on the phone with us. Frank, it sounds like you're in the middle of a prison riot. I mean, are you getting the feeling that this is out of control? Clearly, this is a raucous crowd. It was a raucous and confined crowd on the 19th floor with people trying to get into the room where the canvassing board was going to commence operations.
The people who came out to protest were wearing, you know, button-down shirts, tucked into khaki pants, and got probably in those days braided belts, if we could zoom in enough on the photos. This is Nicholas Kulish. He was covering the Miami-Dade recount as a 25-year-old reporter for The Wall Street Journal.
And he was on the 19th floor of the Clark Center when the protesters arrived. You definitely had the impression that these were the people who did not protest in college and that they didn't really necessarily know how to protest. That they're sort of winging it for the very first time. Let us in! Let us in! Let us in!
as the protesters pounded on the window leading to the tabulation room, Coolish felt the atmosphere change. And what I remember very vividly was they were pounding on the glass and...
On the other side of the glass, there were municipal workers and some deputies. I mean, people were really fired up. The rhetoric that they were using was very much of a stolen election, of democracy being undone. And I couldn't judge to what extent it was sincere or cynical, but there is something that can happen where people can start to fall under the spell of their own rhetoric.
The demonstration reached a climax when one of the Republicans on the 19th floor accused a Democratic Party official of trying to steal a ballot. At one point, they charged a Democratic attorney. It turned out to be a sample or practice ballot. The three members of the canvassing board moved back downstairs to get away from the chaos.
Eventually, the 19th floor quieted down. Later, the incident at the Stephen P. Clark Government Center was nicknamed the Brooks Brothers Riot. And in its aftermath, there was a lot of debate about how volatile and dangerous it had actually been. One Bush lawyer claimed at a press conference that there had been little kids and babies in the crowd and that there was, quote, in some ways, a holiday atmosphere. Lena McConkie-Peltier didn't go quite that far when I asked her about it.
So I would say that there was an element of anger, but not violence. I mean, come on. I'm standing there in a Liz Claiborne dress. I'm not going to be taking anybody out.
Regardless, the three members of the canvassing board seemed rattled by what happened, and they halted the undervote plan in order to regroup. We've been listening to a hearing down in Miami-Dade canvassing board, this ongoing dispute about the hand count, exactly what they will count and what they will not. A few hours later, they reconvened for another public meeting to make an important announcement. I do not believe that there is time to carry out a complete full manual recount.
that is accurate and that will count every vote because of the limitations put on this board in terms of time. -I do agree with Judge King and Mr. Leahy that it is not physically possible to continue with this task. -The Miami-Dade recount was over. None of the new Gore votes that had been discovered would be counted in the final vote tally.
That is the unanimous decision of this canvassing board that we will not be proceeding further with a manual recount and that the certification of November 8th, 2000 be accepted by the Secretary of State for the valid cast votes of Miami-Dade County.
All right, the Miami-Dade County canvassing board taking a vote to end the recount there. There will be no more counting of votes in Miami-Dade County, the largest county. The Gore team watched in horror as the canvassing board announced their decision on live television. The main reason they gave for stopping was that there just wasn't enough time to finish before the deadline. But what was different at 1.30 p.m. compared to 8 that morning, when completing the count had still seemed feasible?
Common sense seemed to suggest that the protesters had intimidated the canvassing board into abandoning the recount. The whole tone of things had changed as...
And it was certainly the biggest thing that happened between when they were counting the ballots and when they suddenly decided not to count the ballots. You know, you're on an election board and like your job is to ensure like a free, fair, you know, an impartial election. And the idea that sort of people chanting and chasing partisans from the other side, you know, around and threatening people, you know,
causes you to stop counting votes, it seems like almost as undemocratic a thing as you could imagine, right? After the vote, one canvassing board member told reporters that the protesters' concerns were a factor in the decision, that when it became clear that the board's workaround to the deadline problem wasn't going to fly, they were left with no other options. This was perceived as not being an open and fair process, the canvassing board member said, and that weighed heavily on our minds.
Once again, the Republicans appeared to have outmatched the Gore team through raw political strength. Brad Blakeman told me that he was astonished that it had been so easy. Gore made a conscious decision that he would fight in the courts, in the recount centers, but not publicly on the streets. And it was as if it was a total sterile environment and that we were the only ones there who seemed to, you know, fight for what we believed in. We fully expected to be overrun, quite frankly.
Because we said the Democrats are going to be out in force. And they never showed up anywhere. In fact, early in the recount, there were some organized protests in Gore's favor, particularly in Palm Beach, where Jesse Jackson led rallies criticizing the butterfly ballot and calling attention to the alleged disenfranchisement of Haitian-American voters. But Al Gore worried about the spectacle coming across as unseemly, and he put out word to Jackson that he'd prefer it if he left town.
Coming up in the final part of the story of the Florida recount, the Democrats fumble the PR war. This is On The Media. This is On The Media. I'm Michael Loewinger. We're listening to an excerpt from Fiasco Bush v. Gore, the story of the Florida recount. Here's host Leon Nafok. Wow.
While the battle over hand recounts raged in South Florida, the Bush campaign and their allies tried to gain an advantage in other parts of the state by continuing to hammer Gore on the issue of military ballots. Those rejected absentee military ballots. Hundreds of servicemen's ballots were initially tossed out statewide for, among other things, missing or late postmarks. Ballots Republicans have been beating the drum to have counted. As you'll recall, the
The controversy around military ballots initially played out at the level of public relations. For the first few days after Mark Herron's memo got leaked, Bush's people seemed to be mostly focused on making Gore look bad. They're having people like Senator Bob Dole, military heroes, speak out. They went on TV. They gave press conferences. If they're going to count a dimple...
Then they need to count a vet's vote. They even got retired General Norman Schwarzkopf to issue a statement. Just not fair. It's a sad day for this country when our military people on the front lines don't get their ballot counted when there's a selection of the commander-in-chief.
But then, on November 22nd, the same day as the Brooks Brothers riot in Miami, the Bush campaign raised the stakes by bringing the issue into the legal realm. Bush's lawyers filed suit in 13 Florida counties, seeking to have hundreds of rejected overseas absentee ballots counted, many of them from sailors and soldiers serving abroad. Bush filed suit against more than a dozen Florida counties where overseas absentee ballots had been disqualified because they lacked postmarks, signatures, or other elements required by law.
The lawsuit accused the Gore campaign of pressuring the canvassing boards into rejecting ballots that should have been counted. Republicans sensing that Gore is vulnerable on the issue of military ballots. The lawsuit didn't end up having legs, but it didn't need to. Before a judge had even made a ruling, six of the counties named as plaintiffs in the suit agreed of their own volition to reevaluate the overseas ballots that they had earlier rejected. It was postmarked in the United States, but I see no reason not to include this vote. Here again is Mark Herron.
And so all these canvassing boards decide they're going to meet again and review what they had done previously, okay? And so they start accepting ballots that do not have any postmarks on them. To me, those ballots, from a legal point of view, should not have been accepted. But again, this furor over the issue
led some people not to show that they had backbone to follow the law. It was a case of perfect synergy between legal and political warfare. By creating public pressure around the issue of military ballots, the Republicans were able to shape how the law was interpreted and applied.
By the end of the week, canvassing boards around the state had agreed to accept 288 ballots that had previously been rejected as illegal. Those absentee ballots inched upward all afternoon for Governor Bush, finally handing him 108 more overseas votes at a time when, Peter, every vote mattered. With that, a PR misstep by the Gore team had been converted into real gains for Bush.
It didn't matter that in order to make that happen, the Republicans had been forced to stake out two mutually inconsistent positions on ballot standards. So what if they were calling for a looser approach to ballots that were likely to benefit Bush, while calling for precise adherence to the law in counties that went for Gore? Unlike the Democrats, the Republicans weren't afraid of looking like hypocrites. They were afraid of losing.
Let's turn now to Palm Beach County, where the canvassing board is trying to beat a deadline of 5 p.m. today for completing its hand recount. On Sunday, November 26th, both campaigns were bracing themselves for the arrival of the new certification deadline for vote totals. Remember, according to the Florida Supreme Court ruling, the counties had until 5 p.m. to turn in their numbers, if the Secretary of State's office was open. If it wasn't, they'd have until the following morning.
In Palm Beach County, the manual recount was still furiously underway. It had been going well, well enough that Charles Burton and Teresa Lepore, two of the Palm Beach Canvassing Board members, had decided it would be okay to take a break for Thanksgiving. This turned out to be a grave mistake. By Sunday at noon, the prospect of finishing the count on time no longer looked so good.
The Palm Beach canvassing board still had about 5,400 ballots to get through.
And since the Secretary of State's office was open for business, the deadline was 5 p.m. — Catherine Harris, the Secretary of State, is inside the administrative building here, inside, at work today on this Sunday afternoon. — Around half past noon, Judge Burton organized a press conference and read a letter out loud to Catherine Harris, pleading for more time. — It says, "Dear Secretary Harris,
Harris's office informed Burton that the 5 p.m. deadline was non-negotiable.
The Florida Supreme Court had said that if they were open on Sunday, then 5:00 p.m. was the deadline.
Well, they were open. And that meant 5 p.m. was the deadline. Getting confirmation out of the Secretary of State's office here in Tallahassee is told the vote counters down in Palm Beach at the extension for that deadline will not happen. Quite a blow to Judge Charles Burton, to Commissioner Carol Roberts and Teresa Lepore, the three members of this canvassing board here who have been working now since 8 o'clock yesterday morning with maybe just a two hour... Burton was devastated.
And at 4.15 p.m., he held another press conference, this time to announce that after 10 grueling days, the recount in Palm Beach had failed. So the Secretary of State has apparently decided to shut us down with approximately two hours, perhaps, left to go. We believe there are approximately 800 to 1,000 ballots left to count. So unfortunately, at this time, we have no other choice but then to shut down the Supervisor for Elections...
Up to that point, Palm Beach had discovered a net of around 200 new votes for Gore. But now that no longer mattered. None of those votes would be counted, and there was nothing anyone in Palm Beach could do about it. Ladies and gentlemen. Hours after the 5 p.m. deadline passed, Catherine Harris presided over a certification ceremony at the state capitol. As the state elections canvassing commission...
We are here today to certify the results of the election that occurred November 7th, 2000. Because of the great interest in our actions, we're meeting publicly. The ceremony was just that, a ceremony, because everyone knew that it wasn't actually going to end the election. Gore and his team had already indicated that they would be filing a lawsuit to contest the official results, and that meant the beginning of a whole new stage in the process.
For now, the final tally stood at 2,912,253 votes for Gore and 2,912,790 votes for Bush. Gore would be entering the so-called contest phase of the recount, trailing by just 537 votes. I have to admit, I was pretty flabbergasted when I learned about how the hand recount in Palm Beach ended. And for the record, I went into this project not knowing anything about what the Secretary of State's office really did or didn't do during the recount.
I was aware of Harris's reputation, and I understood that Democrats generally believe that she made decisions to benefit Bush. But I was prepared to find out that the truth was more complicated. And then I read about this thing with Palm Beach, about how Charles Burton begged Katherine Harris for a few more hours so they could finish counting, and how she wouldn't allow it no matter what. And what I saw in this story was Harris making a decision that was transparently and unambiguously motivated by a desire to stop the recount.
Yes, the canvassing board had made a truly short-sighted decision to take time off for Thanksgiving. But the Florida Supreme Court had said that having vote totals come in on Monday at 9 a.m. would have been fine. Why couldn't Harris have just given Palm Beach the extra couple hours? What possible reason could she have had other than wanting to protect Bush's lead? I asked Harris about this during our interview last spring. And to my bewilderment, she remembered the story completely differently. In Harris's mind, she didn't cut the Palm Beach recount short.
She thinks she actually extended the time they had. They said originally Friday. And we said we'd stay open until Sunday to give people more time. No, I think they said Sunday or Monday. This was the beginning of a pretty drawn-out debate. No, they said that the votes have to be in by Sunday at 5 p.m. if the Secretary of State's office is open. Or if the Secretary of State's office is not open on Sunday, they can come in at 9 a.m. on Monday. I remember the 9 a.m. on Monday, but I also clearly remember that
Because we wanted it to be finished. Everybody argued, let's do it Friday, let's do it Friday. And we said, no, we're going to stay open. So I'm not—maybe I'm not remembering that exactly. I do know about the nine, but I thought that we had to certify at five. It said you shall certify. If you're open. Yeah, and we chose to stay open so that they would have the time.
So you and I disagree on that, but I can go back, you know, we can both go back and check. But I clearly, in my mind, it was my understanding that we had a choice of Friday or Sunday. I don't know what to make of this exactly. Other than Harris really, truly remembers doing everything right. Right according to the law. Right according to the principles of democracy. Right according to the duties of her office. And to be honest, that's true of pretty much all the people I interviewed for this show.
Everyone remembers acting impartially and honorably and fairly, but that doesn't mean they remember it correctly. Good evening. From the beginning of this extraordinary period of time... Seven minutes after Katherine Harris presided over the vote certification in Florida, Joe Lieberman was once again asked to go on television to represent the campaign. Lieberman addressed reporters at the Hay-Adams Hotel in Washington.
It was three days after Thanksgiving, and the interior of the hotel was already decorated for Christmas. This time, the would-be VP said exactly what he was supposed to. This evening, the Secretary of State of Florida has decided to certify what by any reasonable standard is an incomplete and inaccurate count of the votes cast in the state of Florida. We have an opportunity here.
And we have a responsibility to ensure that this election lifts up our democracy and respects every voter and every vote, no matter what the outcome. And that is precisely what Vice President Gore and I will seek to do in the days ahead. George W. Bush gave a speech that night too. He called on Gore to drop his plan to contest the election and to concede instead.
He also asks President Clinton to formally open a transition office for his new administration. Good evening. The last 19 days have been extraordinary ones. But now that the votes are counted, it is time for the votes to count. I've asked Secretary Cheney to work with President Clinton's administration to open a transition office in Washington. And we look forward to a constructive working relationship throughout this transition. Together, we can make this a positive day of hope and opportunity
for all of us who are blessed to be Americans. Thank you very much, and God bless America. Just after Katherine Harris' certification ceremony, lawyers from the governor's office rushed to prepare the documents that would officially seat Florida's 25 Republican electors. The Bush camp was concerned that the Democrats would try to subpoena the documents and prevent them from getting filed.
So, out of an abundance of caution, the lawyers transported the documents in an unmarked police car and mailed them to Washington from an out-of-the-way post office where no one would be expecting them. In the end, none of it turned out to be necessary. The Democrats didn't even try to interfere. After an appeal by the Bush team, it was the United States Supreme Court that finally called a halt to the Florida recount, handing the 25 electoral votes and the presidency to George W. Bush. Good evening.
Just moments ago, I spoke with George W. Bush and congratulated him on becoming the 43rd president of the United States. And I promised him that I wouldn't call him back this time. The rest, as they say, is history. This hour of On the Media has been an excerpt from the excellent fiasco Bush v. Gore. Go listen to the rest of the series on the luminary channel of Apple Podcasts, and you can find more fiasco on Audible.
That's it for this week's show. On the Media is produced by Eloise Blondio, Molly Rosen, Rebecca Clark-Calendar, and Candice Wong. Our technical director is Jennifer Munson. Our engineer this week was Brendan Dalton. Katya Rogers is our executive producer. On the Media is a production of WNYC Studios. I'm Michael Loewinger.