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The Trump Campaign Continues to Spew Lies about Springfield. Plus, Support for Political Violence Is On the Rise.

2024/9/20
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Brooke Gladstone和Michael Loewinger：特朗普竞选团队关于俄亥俄州斯普林菲尔德海地移民的谎言导致了现实世界中的暴力威胁和恐慌，学校和政府建筑被迫关闭。对特朗普的暗杀未遂事件也突显了美国政治暴力日益增长的趋势。 Macollvie Neel：作为《海地时报》的特别项目编辑，Neel讲述了斯普林菲尔德海地移民面临的种族主义和歧视，以及他们遭受的暴力威胁和袭击。她还分享了她本人因为报道这些事件而受到的骚扰和死亡威胁，包括被恶意报警（swatting）。 Lilliana Mason：约翰霍普金斯大学政治学教授Mason的研究表明，美国对政治暴力的容忍度正在上升，这与政治言论、文化和激进的共和党联盟有关。她指出，政治领导人的言论对公众对暴力的态度有重大影响，并强调了负责任的领导在减少政治暴力中的作用。 Matthew Dallek：乔治华盛顿大学历史学和政治管理学教授Dallek认为，政治暴力是美国历史的一部分，并指出许多美国总统都曾成为暗杀目标。他分析了历史上的政治暴力事件，以及政治领导人如何应对这些事件。 Joshua Kaplan：ProPublica记者Kaplan报道了“美国爱国者3%”（AP3）民兵组织的情况，该组织在1月6日事件后吸引了更多成员，并参与了边境巡逻和选民恐吓活动。他指出，该组织内部存在关于是否以及何时应该使用大规模政治暴力的激烈争论。

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The Trump campaign's promotion of false claims about Haitian immigrants harming pets in Springfield, Ohio led to a surge in threats against the town and Haitian-Americans nationwide. These lies, despite being debunked, continue to fuel fear and incite violence.
  • The false claims about Haitians harming pets originated from a Facebook post and were amplified by neo-Nazi groups, J.D. Vance, and Donald Trump.
  • The city of Springfield experienced numerous bomb threats against schools, government buildings, and homes following the spread of these rumors.
  • A Wall Street Journal investigation revealed that a Vance staffer inquired about the rumors' validity before the presidential debate, despite the city manager confirming their falsity.

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Lies that immigrants are eating pets in Springfield, Ohio have inspired dozens of threats against the town, and toward Haitian-Americans across the nation. On this week’s On the Media, hear how public acceptance of political violence has grown. Plus, how January 6 became a recruiting tool for one of the country’s largest militias.

[01:00] Host Brooke Gladstone speaks with Macollvie Neel), special projects editor at The Haitian Times, to talk about the recent wave of rhetoric and threats aimed at the Haitian community in Springfield, Ohio, and why Neel and other reporters saw it coming. 

[13:29] Host Brooke Gladstone interviews Lilliana Mason), Professor of Political Science at Johns Hopkins University, about the growing acceptance of political violence in America, and the reasons behind it. 

[27:14]  Host Brooke Gladstone sits down with Matthew Dallek), a historian and professor of political management at George Washington University, to look at the history of political violence and presidential assassinations. 

[37:32] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Joshua Kaplan), reporter at ProPublica, about how one powerful, but largely unseen militia avoided scrutiny after January 6th. And why a day that led many members to quit, turned into a call to arms. 

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