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Theoretical & Creative Ecology (SCIENCE & ECOPOETRY) with Madhur Anand

2024/2/7
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Allie Ward: 本期节目探讨了科学与艺术的交叉领域——创造性生态学,并采访了理论生态学家、诗人Madhur Anand博士。访谈涵盖了Anand博士的科研工作、诗歌创作以及她对科学传播的独特见解。 Madhur Anand: 理论生态学通过构建生态系统模型来研究复杂的生态系统,利用数学方程式或计算机代码简化和总结生态系统的复杂性,从而理解其潜在过程。我的研究主要集中在陆地生态系统,特别是森林生态系统,旨在理解物种间的相互作用、生物多样性的形成原因及其受干扰的影响。为了更有效地预测和应对环境变化,需要将生态系统模型与人类行为模型相结合,理解人类行为对生态系统的影响。理论生态学模型可以预测森林火灾、虫害等事件的发生,并探索可能的干预措施以减轻负面影响。人类并非总是理性地根据经济因素做出决策,情感、价值观等因素也驱动着人类行为,这些因素可能有助于环境保护。在生态系统模型中,需要考虑人类的情感、价值观等非经济因素,以更准确地预测和引导人类行为。 Allie Ward: Anand博士的科研工作与她的诗歌创作之间存在着密切的联系。她的诗歌创作源于她在科学研究中遇到的挑战和感悟,诗歌成为她表达思想和情感的另一种方式,弥补了科学方法的局限性。她探讨了如何将科学的严谨性和艺术的创造性相结合,以及如何利用诗歌等艺术形式进行科学传播。她认为,传统艺术形式在科学传播中仍然具有重要价值,能够以更易于理解和接受的方式向大众传播科学知识。诗歌、小说等创作形式对未来的科学传播至关重要,它们能够使科学知识的传播更加民主化和普及化。

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Environmental models! Poetry! Scientists who are poets! Novelists who are scientists! Art + science =  an actual -ology. Creative Ecologist, climate scientist, theoretical ecologist, author and celebrated poet Dr. Madhur Anand sits on a porch with me on an island to chat about storytelling, narratives in science, forest beetles, carbon stability, human motives, hip waders, technology meets nature, absurdity, identity, overcoming writer’s or scientist’s' block, and how accepting ourselves can be contagious. Forecast: you begin jotting down poems on envelopes. 

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Buy Madhur Anand’s collections of poems A New Index for Predicting Catastrophes) (2015) and Parasitic Oscillations) (2022), and her book of prose This Red Line Goes Straight to Your Heart) (2020)

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