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Launching AI products with Braintrust’s CEO Ankur Goyal

2024/10/8
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Elad Gil介绍了Braintrust公司及其产品,指出Braintrust是一个端到端的企业平台,用于构建AI应用程序,帮助公司高效评估和管理复杂的、非确定性的AI应用程序。Braintrust帮助像Notion、Airtable、Instacart、Zapier和Vercel这样的公司进行评估、可观测性和提示开发。Ankur Goyal分享了他对AI工具和编程语言新兴趋势、开源的兴起以及数据基础设施未来的见解。他还谈到了构建有弹性的AI产品、他作为CEO的编程理念以及初创公司初始客户群的重要性。 Ankur Goyal详细阐述了Braintrust的产品功能和发展历程,以及在AI产品开发中遇到的挑战和解决方案。他指出,AI产品开发中评估的难题在LLM出现前后都存在,且持续存在。Braintrust最初的原型虽然粗糙,但由于满足了市场需求,得到了用户的认可和使用,并不断迭代改进。他解释了指令微调和微调的区别,以及为什么大多数客户转向指令微调。他还谈到了开源模型的应用现状、数据基础设施的未来发展以及如何构建AI团队。他分享了他作为CEO的编程经验,以及如何与客户合作,并对Braintrust的未来发展方向进行了展望。

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Ankur Goyal, CEO of Braintrust, discusses the company's origins, its mission to help companies build AI applications at scale, and the challenges of evaluating and managing complex AI applications. He highlights the consistent need for robust AI evaluation tools across various stages of AI development.
  • Braintrust helps companies like Notion, Airtable, Instacart, and Zapier deploy AI solutions.
  • The company's initial prototype was quickly adopted by users.
  • The problem of AI evaluation is harder than it seems, requiring consistent and standardized methods.

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Today on No Priors, Elad is joined by Ankur Goyal, founder and CEO of Braintrust. Braintrust enables companies like Notion, Airtable, Instacart, Zapier, and Vercel to deploy AI solutions at scale by efficiently evaluating and managing complex, non-deterministic AI applications. Ankur shares his insights into emerging trends in the use of AI tooling and coding languages, the rise of open-source, and the future of data infrastructure. Ankur also reflects on building resilient AI products, his philosophy on coding as a CEO, and the importance of a startup’s initial customer base. 

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**Show Notes: **

(0:00) Introduction

(0:38) Ankur’s path to Braintrust

(3:05) Braintrust’s solution

(5:46) AI tooling trends 

(7:58) Instruction tuning vs. fine-tuning

(8:57) Open-source AI adoption 

(10:42) Future of data infrastructure and synthetic data

(14:45) Designing technical interviews

(18:04) Rethinking agent-based approaches

(19:34) Building out an AI team

(23:35) Typescript as the language of AI

(25:12) The shift away from using frameworks

(26:02) Vendor consolidation among enterprises 

(27:16) Coding as a CEO 

(30:16) Collaborating with customers

(33:00) Future of Braintrust and evals