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IT is we are in IT.
What is IT like? I when you listen to this .
october something yeah, it's not that right now, but it's that right .
now was super deeper .
and that was deep right now. It's like sometime in september and that's still spooky season.
It's it's preoccupy it's preoccupy, but now it's october. If you ve .
a do we and we .
you know what IT feels .
a little like Christmas because we got some delightful gifts from we. We went to our po box, the poll box, the pull box, and you guys always send the cool shit really. We have a decorating our pod lab all the time because you're awesome and you're so fucked and talented .
that IT makes me sick and me you you make me sick and it's so nice of you just still like send us yeah drink its that you make like use .
your skills to give us a good thing because like really .
cool you talk about the first thing you receive because I think it's one of the coolest gifts.
So i've I forgotten in my life. I'm just like in all this so it's from there it's from I want you to listen to this you can go look at up on at sea because IT is slow her show up uh it's a gingerous party peppi ah and it's what's the ginger peppery 到 com and it's papery P A P E R I E ginger that so this lovely, lovely lady I don't know if he wants us to say her actual name, but not i'm not going to me SHE made us the most beautiful, customized journals like scrap booky kind of journals that are so pretty, very specific to us. We SAT there this morning and went through every fucking page, every little piece of paper, every detail. They are the most beautiful things I have ever seen you.
so talented. And every like couple pages there would be like an insert where you would like pull out even more paper yeah and like, just k IT little yeah, there was just cool like little articles, cool poems. Cool like easter from like vintage ad.
Yes, like ash got like a bunch of vintage like, like hair styling yeah and I got eventually like old pharmacy ads and like a perfect stuff. And like, there was like an old, like this ancient, looking to tell, like science textbook page I was in there.
So cool. I put a acquire in mind. He put his stickers in the back.
Honestly, just the coolest, most of gift who's really sweet really made our day.
And you can order off of her at this shop and like, customize your journal with her, like how our initials on the front.
yeah, amazing was so, so much. So thank you so much. Yes, you're amazing. That was just so fucking and .
cool IT really was yeah and then we got this really cool piece of artwork. I I think IT came with a card or like the card got lost somehow. But it's this framed peace and it's a it's like a cross ge, no, it's not that. I don't think that is a cross ge.
It's like bees IT is there are they almost look like little rain stones, a ship and it's a it's a drawing of mean, elena standing back to back only has got black on and I have White and a black skirt and we're standing in front of this circle. And IT has keep IT weird, morbid. And it's so cool.
And if you so cool, you're the fucking hit. Yeah, that was really cool. Name yourself.
name yourself. Show yourself.
Because this is cool. It's going up on my side of the world, excited literal perfect spot for IT. That's the thing I happened to have the .
perfect spot so I said, can go. My thought of wall is like diamond yeah because it's just like it's like glitter to when you put IT down.
all my papers are .
going to go that's a really .
fucked and cool yeah it's really pretty and I I hello, I am so tired.
I'm sorry this is .
a windy no, I don't even know what .
I was going to say .
yeah just like speechless oh, I oh going to say I wanted know I don't know if this person who made IT if this is like they are original drawing because i've seen a sticker with that too.
which is such a cool .
one cool so if you drew IT, I love you post your picture IT .
I don't know you guys like just rule.
you're just awesome and so many people sent us cool books to read. And sometimes people send books for like the kids, which is really sweet preciate. All of you just appreciate you so much. You don't have to send us anything.
Oh, oh, that's another one. Before we get into process, we're going to get into IT. But do you have I would like to shower you with love.
I do. Okay, gold, so I got a really cool one from a, let me see the store. Her like little places, bricks by penalty, bricks by penalty.
And SHE takes bricks and SHE paints them to look like books in shit. And he got me a brick and painted IT to look like the butcher in the rain. I'm going to to take a picture of IT because it's so fun.
Kin, it's so cool. I went right in the bookshelf, like right there. You would never .
even know that it's a brick because it's so smooth, smooth and beautiful. And just like the details, like because obviously the button in the run cover has like the eyeball and there's something in the eye ball is so, so impressive.
IT is so fucking cool. I just what a banner day Better. And we needed at this morning because both both of us got our flu shots oh my god. And I think we are just exhausted. And like, you know, you're fine after a flu shot, but like sometimes you your immune system immune, you know.
which is good, my immune stem immune so yeah that I want to find that I .
just didn't sleep well last night because I was just like uncomfortable and feel great your arms so we were just a little tired this morning, just not ourselves. I was gna ah yeah so IT was a nice little like IT was a nice thing because miki came in like fucking in old saint nick with a with a big sack.
We said, oh good, I is really stroking his beard like some wood so .
it's so you guys really killed IT and we appreciate you. You're going to .
post someone because it's just really cool.
You guys are so .
cute and you are sweet and your lovely .
for but by the time this comes out, people would be like, what is that? And people, the rend is very, very time with but i'll never I .
think people speaking a very cute, I very mindful um I think by the time you hear this is can be like what october seven, three, five.
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So hold on, I just have to I need you to i'm going on a speed here. okay? I need you to watch cigaret lives of morman lives on who?
But you told me I might not be able to.
No, I think I think I decided because I was thinking I so I watched IT in two days. I started IT on saturday morning and just watched IT while I decorated for halloween. Ve watched at the next day.
Drew even got into IT and I was thinking about some of the other things that happened. And I don't want to exploit IT for you, but you just you have to watch IT. It's so good.
I'm into I keep just saying like what's going to happen a mom talk? Is this going to destroy mom talk? And i've seen so many people like so many of our listers like i've posted stuff on instead, they've been responding to IT.
And I just wanted to say i'm having the best time. I love just talking about mom talk. And more than what I know.
it's so good. Oh, I love one of my favorite things is with, uh, our listeners are all like we're all enjoying the same thing. yes. And then like we'll post about IT and I get a messages that is like riding with that. And i'm like, I love this because he feels like king and out .
with a bunch of people.
big hangers. Sure, I love that. Let you get to everything. Now, before I begin, john, I watching only murder in the building, and it's really good. So at the west, couple .
seasons, I .
say how many .
seasons .
going go? So cking so good.
Yeah yeah. I watched a little bit of season one and I for no reason I just fell off of IT.
And I you know what, i'm going to talk you about some cemetery because today, because I zy, I suppose I think there so I have a wild cemetery wild IT is the westminster ring grounds in maryland ah IT is a cemetery at the westminster's spratley an church which is now not the church anymore it's called westminster okay um and they IT was created in seventeen and eighty six. The burial ground that is .
going back quite away. It's old. IT was .
actually made before the church was even erected and the church was erected over IT, which made some canoes happen what yeah so so there's that's terrifying and this happens have a very famous resident .
does .
IT mister egan pow himself? I know him. You know him.
I've heard of his work. I love work and .
I love your work. He was actually initially buried in an unmarked grave because of his strange and of his life. Um but then they were .
talk about that.
don't worry but a later, according to morbidly beautiful 点 com, which is a very interesting website, a bunch of children from a local school raised money to get him a marker at the entrance of the cemetery. They called the founders iser pennies purpose. That's a little and adorable al. I remember learning about.
did you really yeah when we talked about .
that girl and yeah yeah, he was buried actually three different times and that cemetery.
that's crazy. I feel like he disturb any, but he's body not much.
Yeah, I mean, he's so Willy like he was Willy in life, he was Willy and death he still is. Now the marker that was made um at the entrance of the cemetery made with you know some of the raised funds. And I had this little like medan thing on IT with his image on IT and it's been stolen and IT was stolen and ended up being found in a flea market in Charles and west Virginia for because .
I guess that .
was one of them was like bronze or something in our copper, one of those. And then the newer one was marble, marble. And that showed up the market still grave that's things .
from anybody.
specially not from grave .
or but .
I definitely don't still from graveyard.
It's bold and brain.
Yeah so he's people that are also buried in that cemetery alone like near a ground pole um are his wife, Virginia cm pole and his mother in law marian poll climb? Well, you may be like weird that they have the same last names, but reversed and you would be correct. But that's because his wife was his cousin.
I always forget that troubled man. Then .
someone tells me that.
and I say, OK first.
yeah, I am pretty sure. okay.
And he was also Young. I remember .
that like he was like twenty six or something was or fifteen. He was a, he was a situation where are going to a restaurant .
where he drink in the sellers?
Yeah, he drink a lots IT was definitely that let's .
go drink in the sellers that i'd go. You go drink in the cellars with me, where i'd grow and drinks.
So I know it's real. So I know it's real. Well, people will see poo hanging out in this place off the cemetery. Yeah, the cemetery often just standing over his own grave, he would, he really would and he's always seemed like wearing a long black coat. He's wearing a black feda like a big one and he's always had a scarf covering part of his face, almost like he's trying to hide that's which is really creepy um people believe he may be feeling some you know regret for how his life pan out because like sure he's pretty famous now but like at work .
cost and he really wasn't .
when he was really wasn't as much yeah so his death was nearly and i'm sure he is even puzzled by IT still so ah so let's go on a long side here and let's talk about post mysterious death really quick that's.
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So i'm not gonna ll go to like a kind of generalize look at IT because I really would like to go into this a little further way.
I think you should do an episode, and I feel like that be good.
There's many theories about his death that I think would be very, I think, to go to because they range from like you know being beaten to death to carbon monoxide poisoning so I feel .
like there be evidence of the beat yeah versus if he died of carver proposing I think you should do that for maybe like.
maybe like hello mean, oh, there you go like I might be one and it's very interesting. I don't know if an epic comes out on hold. Mean, but but i'll give you, i'll give you a little general yeah so september twenty seven, eight hundred and forty nine, forty year old poll left philadephia business.
He was set to help edit a collection of poems. IT was gonna kind of a big deal. He was for a well known poet at the time. So this was like a big deal that he was going to edit them, but he never arrived and he never showed up and no one heard a downward from him.
He was supposed to be going back to richmond actually during that week for his own fucking wedding because he was engaged at the time to a Sarah A L ma royster shelton, because his other wife had passed away from consumption like he vanished for a full week, just finished. No one knew he was, didn't contact anyone. And then he was found on a tuber third a week later, eighteen forty nine, on election day. And he was thought a man named Joseph w. Walker was on his weight, gunn's hall, which was a polling station and like a local public house. And outside in the ali, he came across a man dressed like shit, smelling like shit, looking like shit and lying on the ground, basically falling in and out of consciousness and unable to move so he was like, wow, that's crazy and then he looked at him and he was like that at grand pou fuck um so he was like, can I call some for you someone for user like yok and good and by call I mean write a letter because the eighteen forty nine in poll was like, yeah you can write a guy named chose of snodgrass .
snodgrass .
who was apparently a friend, an editor um in possession of a really cool name and also he side hustle as kind of like a doctor ish medical person.
side hustle as a doctor ish medical kind of person. Imagine bringing your your new friends around your family and I like, what do you do? I am a doctor ish medical kind of muscle yeah .
you know IT was the eighteen hundred so that was pretty Normal giving doctor.
So he did.
He wrote him, according to the in dark com, he wrote in on october third, eighteen forty nine years. Sir, there is a gentleman rather the worse for wear at ryans fourth ward polls, who goes under the cognomen of ega poo and who appears in great stress. And he says, he is acquainted with you.
He is in need of immediate assistance, yours in haste. Josef w. Walker.
he is in need of immediate assistance. So let me post on this. Send IT to you. Hope he gets to you soon .
enough but he did write yours in haste. Post takes on russian. He was brought he eventually he showed up and he was brought to make you know, gets a medical attention and he spent four days in and out of, you know, basically in and out of dying essentially yeah um he was in and out of consciousness and he died on october seventh. During that time he was fluctuating. He was going into bit bitch.
This episode comes out on october seven. IT happens again. IT happens again. And that's where because my key literally .
just told .
us that we wonder has always happened.
That's so weird. damn. I mean, for that to happen totally.
I got full chills about.
well, during this whole time he was halcon ating. He was gone into fits and he was screaming the name. And over and over to this day, no been able to determine who the fuck runs is.
And it's also documented that he was discovered in dirty old clothing that wasn't his. They were not his clothes. No one knows who these clothes belong to, why he looked like such shit, why he was hallucinating and why he was screaming the name runners and then he just died. That's weird.
I mean, sometimes when you're like about to die, you who listens? Yeah, talk to people that aren't there.
But he was like, really going through IT. I mean, he and he was so bad that he couldn't recollect to what had happened him.
Yeah, that's strange. So do you think there's like a possibility be that he just like one on a ender?
Well, that's the thing. So he was also supposed .
to be in a sober era. yes.
So doubly, tino, he was trying. And you know again, there's so many theories that go into this like there's something called cooping back then where these people on election day would like can nap someone like beat them and and dress them in disguise and make them go vote for who they wanted them to yeah and then release them again and sometimes they would like, keep them in a room and like, play them with alcohol and should like, make them do IT. There is a theory that like cooping was responsible for this and that maybe like, that's what IT.
which would be wild and just really .
fucking sad yeah it's like, it's fascinating and really tragic and found but like, I will go into IT at a later date, I think for sure. But just know the man had a strange troubles, you know, weird death, troubled life. So seeing him like contemplating his choices over his own grave after his died seems pretty fucked in poly to me.
I feel like that would make for the beginning of an awesome movie.
right? Just post standing .
over and then you just like delve into his life, your .
choices. I think he also shows up at the alter inside what was the westminster hall. Now, a lot like he'll just be walking around there at school.
And every year since then, this is just interesting to me, every year since the nineteen and forties and a steriolithography, its pose grave on his birthday. So I do this, which I think is january nineteen, i'm pretty sure. Look, and he leaves three red roses in a half.
Empty bottle of connection is supposed to be post favorite poison of choice. And then he toasts to him, and then just leaves every year, and apparently one year there, and he leaves, these people leave notes sometimes one year there was a note that said, ed, girl, I haven't forgotten you. In, according to america, haunted road trips, the original person who did this, like, started this whole thing, died in one hundred and ninety eight.
This proof of that only, but they haven't revealed to IT, is it's never been revealed. And then someone else took IT up after them after that person died. Someone else is taking in a problem themselves to do that.
That's the kind of lord that I won't going on in my grave site like B I saw my grave site. Yeah, and just be dark and leave me weird poison and roses.
One thing I would think he'd be pretty cacked about is after he died one, he became insanely famous. yeah. But to he, all his shit is so anonymous with like gothic culture and a spoke y rave and should .
like .
like the og god king yeah it's true. Like he was fucked up, which I think kind of I like he was fucked game obviously his like works are so gothic and wild and like, you know.
the deep.
deep lor of mr. poe. But that's a ground poking around. cool. There's also something that's called the screaming skull of cambridge there. Tell me all about that, which was initially actually brought me to the.
I would bring me to that because I said.
I said a screaming skull what he said, he was said and I was like, I bet it's not an actual screaming skull, notice.
fuck IT.
So yeah, because I was like, you're gonna ase me with this and then it's gonna something stupid. No screen school, apparently a minister, a local minister, was murdered nearby. And after he was buried, his skull kept screaming relentlessly all hours of night.
And people said the shaking would drive people mad, because I would not stop. So they dug him up. They get, this is like in the eighteen hundreds, they dug him up. They gag ged to the skull in casted in concrete, and then decapitated him in place, the concrete screaming skull next to his grave.
I sort of feel like there was a Better way to go about that.
probably. But I just screaming about wap, screaming, good.
I you exactly. You fucked up, I get louder.
i'm get winder and sometimes they can still hear screaming coming .
from there screaming skull you like give for its like I get asleep because I I get a sk because of meal as the minister their skull get to .
know get to know so really was that um there's also a few more stories like Lucia watts and Taylor SHE was a sixteen year old girl who passed away I know right and eighteen her ghost can be seen. She's very long dark hair because he's wearing a flowing stream SHE can be seen on very dark and foggy evening in in full body Operation and she's always seen nearing and praying over her own grave and her APP if SHE is that a real person in the cemetery, like you can find her grave and IT says her eyes tap, says, blessed to a peculiar sweetness of temper, a mind peer and exhaust heart pius and faithful SHE died beloved in lamented early, bright, transient, chased this morning due SHE Sparkled, was exhaust in, went to heaven .
that is so beautiful and I was like.
wow.
People really .
love to I was gonna what I loved.
like woman, Young woman, like, have such a beautiful in grieving. And also, I would have been, hello expensive.
very expensive. But it's just like that, like what that's a beautiful epeat, a beautiful .
that really is. They also just knew how to say SHE Better back.
They really did. But I was like, SHE sounds like A I seriously cool check.
But then you wonder, i'm like, why is SHE praying over her grave? I know, I hope black. I hope he did make IT where he wanted to.
I know, like, I hope IT wherever IT is, you're happy. You know maybe you're just i'm hoping like a residual thing is actually but there's another kind of creepier story that is from the cat comes because there's catechise here because the church was built right over the cemetery that is yeah too much and cases there's a story of a woman named leonor wealthy SHE was a woman from a local asylum who said to be so mad that they buried her in her straight jacket to keep her restrained in death.
unnecessary. Yeah, that's what I say, not to me or not mine.
not done at all. And people say they can see and feel her following them around and you will laugh in your ear maniacally good.
which just was a guy. Probit went, I would do the same yeah .
um when also the ground keeper from long ago named old .
violence is the graves.
the grave digger and the groundskeeper. He'll chase your ass out of there. If you fuck around in there.
Well, fuck around. You find out you .
have the rounds perfectly and he will not tolerate and and against good. And when he chases you out, he'll do so with a shovel. So it's just that goes coming out at old baLance, ghost running out you with a shovel.
Go get out of.
And apparently, there are rumors of a lot of premature barriers that happened here. Qual, yeah, you heard a right premature because I was in the time when a lot of that would happen often, like they didn't have all the technology to know when was actually dead, which is why they had all those, the bills and the other things where they could like you yeah, grave of alarms. Essentially this happened a lot.
So I mean, that's a perfect recipe for a ghost if you have solution IT is and the category are especially haunted down there because of this yes, because they are some of the old descries ah there was also a lot of grave robbing down there, especially in the category worst kind of individual, yes. Truly worst body snatching as well because this was the time there's a um there's a medical college nearby and this isn't it's an old medical college. IT was in the times when students or people hired by medical colleges becomes, natch, cadavers to use the deva labs.
Yes, so that's not great for the people who are buried there. no. And also bodies were just moved into different areas, or grave stones were moved in, just left like bodies in different places because of like code violations in ship when they were like redoing this whole place. Oh wow.
So they have actually like there's rumors that they found bodies like other walkways and ship oh my 有 right。 That's really yeah. So it's nearly you know, in these streets eight times IT do be. But when the church, and this is just, uh, what i'll leave you on for this one, when the church seized being an actual church around one thousand and seventy seven in the nineteen eight, late one thousand nine and seventies, early eighties, local school children would use the graveyard as a playground because I didn't do that. There were reports of people witness, think, kids throwing around human skills.
And I don't have a lot to say about that yeah and at the same time, so much to say about that that's a that's a fucked up kid. That's that's a lot. If if I was a child and somebody through school at me and leave.
I believe.
I believe I, I believe ever was I T.
I, mom, can you pick me up? I'm scare. Yeah that would that would not be something I would engage in.
I was. And I would hope my children would have something say about that Better human skull. One of my kids, they would not just catching and go about their days.
So like they be like, why do you do that? If you at one of your kids, we'd have to have a serious talk with you i'd said, john, john, it's i'm on my way gone too far china, on my way we going to talk to .
this is through human kui want to my kids they be like this doesn't feel right yeah do you know I feel I have and confident and also be on site. It's true, just think it's true. But yes, so that's westminster hall in burial ground in bolt more maryland. wow. yeah.
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Sure can do. Now this evette happens to be the oldest one in all of cook county. The first burial on record there took place in eighteen thirty four.
Yeah, long time ago. Altogether there's about eighty graves on site. But let's get a shot on a crazy bark either.
Sydney black was like that wrong.
He was like that.
There's about seventy eight. O, K.
don't you dare round up?
Don't you round up? I don't know.
Major dog, others.
they became southern. One of them is blench the baLance dever.
no, you know, but the thing is, a lot of these graves have been dugger up, vandalised. Ed, like this place is descartes, and people treat that like shit.
People get IT together.
So that's what if just creating grave? Yeah, you're going to go visit this place. I felt differing opinions on whether or not it's open to the time I don't know risk but only if you're there to be nice yeah and respectful yeah if you're there to steal headstones I don't know you and I don't like and you know what.
you're not listening to our podcast because our listeners are respectful exactly.
I turn this off. If you're not, turn this off. But anyway, the cemetery most likely gets its name from the bad shelter family who settled there around eighteen.
twenty.
Now IT is, now is, over time, the spelling of the name probably changed depending on the source. And eventually, when the family no longer on to the property, there is a group of single men who moved to the area. And I was like, four, five single men, like my bachelor group.
That's why they started calling with that. Now, eventually, otherness transferred over to the fault family around the early one thousand hundreds. IT seems one of the Youngest fault s buried in the cemetary ais.
Amma fulton, who's only one years old when he passed away, come back later. So but according to go city tours, everything was going pretty well for quite some time while the cemetery was under the fault and family. But around one thousand fifty, the I think it's the middle sian turned back IT was rewound ded and the and bachelor's growth became an even more rural area than at once was okay. So the turnpike used to like like I was a good in travelled road, but when they relocated IT, the old turnpike didn't really have a use anymore. So it's like.
really real now. happy. yeah.
Now since I was out of the way of all the hustle and bustle for the city of the city, IT was the perfect place for the sixty teens to get .
their lovers s lane vibes. Oh.
hi. Oh, of course. And of course for party animals, they can have their woods parties. They could get drunk and go crazy in the cemetery. They could get that exactly, but unfortunately, that came along with a lot of vandalism, including grave digging.
Again, I say, get IT together.
Get together.
Get together. I was not out here. Gravity, no.
I was a team ever. Grave dog, and I never.
ever know. And you are a pretty reckless team and you are grave to.
this is true. I party in the woods, but we just party in the woods. I didn't fuck anything up.
You came across the grave. You left to be I king of the party. Leave to be like, we shouldn't be here.
This is followed ground. This is disrespectful, but this is not the only time this thing is this. The next thing that i'm going to talk about has happened. But in one thousand and seventy three, the chicago tribune reported that seven teens were quoted, quote, seized, while they were in the middle of trying to dig up a grave.
What the fuck was the purpose like?
That's Willy. They they do tell us the purpose. The police said the youth arrived wednesday night, got out and are to resume digging. When the policemen announced themselves, the youths told the police they were doing IT as a lk.
which just .
like work, just like a .
fun little. They were.
do IT for laws.
Yeah, just doing IT for .
the plot.
Super dupr funny. It's plot.
Who are you? Yeah, that's the thing. They got in trouble. I think most of them, like had to be bailed out and like to come some community services.
Are you bAiling about ably the mat there? I would if I was my kid. I really like you just dug up a grave. Why do you think about your .
fuck in life just created a grave. You think about your fucking .
in life and think about paris. But police president definitely became more regular once they realized how bad the vandalism was becoming, because they got really bad to the point where people were just like knocking over headstones, stealing headstone stones. That's become such a frequent thing that there are so many graves that are just unmarked.
I hope that they are so fucking haunted. Yeah, like those people. And I hope they are being driven mad. I hope so too. I truly. Do you steal a grave thrown out of a graveyard, or you knock one over intentionally, like or like when lize one in? Anyway, I hope you have the the hunting you deserved.
I agree. Because what are you getting out of that? Yeah, so far can to go to a rage room. Yeah.
I just don't get. Take a walk what you do, sit down my day, so peaceful, just take a walk. Yeah, fucking headphones on and transport to another time in place. What do you do in knocking and share?
I don't get IT. But because the vandalism was rapping up, police presence definitely became a more frequent site. But even as recently as two thousand and nine, there's been vandalism discovered with people literally spray painting the team stones, like, get a life yeah really.
But some people also say the cemetery became a very popular place with settings, worshippers and even the wow, the more of yeah obviously, before police presence, Scott, little happier there yeah, but there is a swamp. P behind the cemetery. And IT said, after they took people out there, you know, to kill the mob style, they just throw their bodies into the swap.
Yeah, I mean, what are you going to do you .
know day and that's crazy. Some mob shi is some mob. Um and then as far as the seti ic warship engages, police say that they found chicken heads littering the ground and trigger warning dead dogs on the property is fucked up, which you know lends itself to say tank worshipping with .
self to ask whole behavior, I agree, is what IT does I agree.
Yeah one of the paraNormal researchers that they had on the ghost ted s episode because ghost venture, ghost adventures episode. John Stevenson, he was one of the paranoid researchers and he said he remembers being up the cemetery when he was Younger. And he said he actually saw what he assumed was some kind of settling ritual going on, because people are dressed in these black robes, like standing around a fire, chanting things at the same time down. Let's very great.
It's pretty satanic. Could be fires and champing robes, robes together.
together.
Community vives. I just been. Witches could just been so which is very big.
to be honest. One of the most famous go sightings and my guar favorite go citing and bachelor's growth is the woman in White or the maDonna.
as she's called.
I've seen this one, this picture.
oh god, in a few books, and I was always fascinated by the picture.
It's so be beautiful.
Yeah, I remember because I was one of those kids. And look at unting books like all the time. Yeah like obsessively in pictures like this like the Brown ghost or something like that which is like and it's like A A photo of this like spector coming down the oh in on the staircase.
It's like it's it's like the Brown lady or something like that. I think she's ppos be and like a Brown now, fit or something. But IT looks like a fuck and terrifying. I know the one you're talking. I was so obsessed with that picture.
but IT fucked me up. I also think wall, if IT fucked you up and it's still, as I think they debunk to that one, I think they debunk to that one. Yeah.
I was like.
somebody like, put something on the like lens of the camera, or something like fuck with the negatives.
I'm gonna a look this up because I been hold on to that firm.
I know i'm .
sorry to have you, but know what this picture you're about to talk about is another one yeah that I remember just obsessively staring at this photo just being like, is this fucking real because just couldn't comprehend .
IT they haven't debunked IT. They haven't debunked IT nobody. He's been able to.
We'll post the picture because SHE was captured, though the madona of bachelor's group was captured in a now famous photograph. That's so what we're talking about. IT is stunningly, hauntingly, breath take kingly beautiful. I will never be over. I honestly want to get a print for this .
room and honestly, I agree it's a gorgeous photo is so it's like melancholy but was beautiful and spoke it's very, very beautiful yeah in the .
photo she's got this long Brown hair and she's wear a White flowing dress and she's sitting on top of a checkered tomb kind of looking off into the distance and parts of her like translucent yeah.
it's and they haven't been able to debunk that one this one yeah yeah no. That I was looking at up. I know I haven't found any evidence.
No, not this one. yeah. But other people claim that they've seen this woman wandering around the cemetery, and they say he seems to be looking for someone, something or someone.
Sometimes she's seen leaving flowers on other graves. In early citing, SHE was seen holding a baby, but in more recent sightings, SHE doesn't have the baby anymore, which is interesting. Now there's a grave in the cemetery, and its headstones just says infant daughter. So some people think these two things are connected, like dona and the infant daughter OK. Um something super creepy but sweet is that people will now leave baby toys at that infant daughter grave site.
Oh my g yeah.
Now IT seems that the first reports of the maDonna bachelor's group came from a radio radio show in the seventies where someone called in with a sighting. But there are two main theories as to who the woman could be, and they both actually come from the same family. So there is Katherine.
I think it's vote fault and then luela fault. Rogers, and they were sisters in law back in the one thousand nine thirties OK, according to grunge dot com. The infant daughter, marker marker could be the grave of marsha may, who was Katherine daughter.
Apparently there was like some turmoil in the family around the time that marsha passed away because, oh, come, obviously, he passed away when he was a baby yeah. And for whatever reason. Katherine's parents wouldn't allow their grandchild a filton to be buried on vote land HMM. So when caffeine passed away, SHE wasn't buried in the fault plot, but somewhere far away. And some believe that her spirit rooms all the way back to bachelor's growth were marsha ended up being buried to, like.
check in on her daughter. And okay, yeah, yeah.
Now others believe that the woman and why is an actually caffeine? But her sister in law, luella, unfortunately, luella a died at right near bachelor's growth on the week of her sixty at birthday. SHE died in a hitting run accident, and SHE happens to be buried in bachelor's group cemetery next to her sister and a fault.
Now, M. S. Headstone was stolen from the cemetery by some as hat. And because this happens so frequently, the stone wasn't handed back like wasn't put back in the cemetery. Instead, IT was handed over to tiny park historical society for safekeeping. Ah they don't want people to still like go back and steal IT all over again. But those who believe that the woman in why is luella point to a photograph that there is a striking resembles will post IT, and they say that she's most likely wandering around looking for her sister's headstone.
Oh, my good. yeah. Like.
breaks my heart. I know i'm not sure which one I believe like I I feel like either could .
fit and makes sense.
Yeah in either way, it's really fucking .
out SHE seems she's lost and like very unsettled and .
they care for the baby like and it's interesting that whoever the woman in White was was Carrying a baby for some time but now isn't that is really interesting yeah now another paraNormal uh, happening that's been reported on four decades at this point with many people saying the same thing is the disappearing farmhouse.
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It's also called tell me the magic house and the phantom house arent still that shit because i'm in the chicago tribune wrote. The site also has a disappearing house. At night, people see an old one story farmhouse.
It's been spotted on both sides of the dirt road as you enter. The people who don't know each other all draw sketches of the same house, even down to the lamp, burning fatally inside. There's flab gassed to know there's no house there.
what.
So people all say, like people really agree on, like most of the details, they all say that the house is a White Victorian era house with a porch, a swing and a White picket fence.
What 的 fuck。
The only thing that really varies about the story that people will give is where they see the house. And whether IT looks solid or translucent, people say that looks like a legit house that is just there. And then other people say it's like almost translucent. And then every in every story, the house either shrinks the closer you get to IT or IT just completely disappears.
Oh my god. I want to see though there .
is also no evidence that a house ever existed on the way. no.
So like no hello no, that's ber razing spector spectable house. And the thing the other thing is that like people .
will go in the experience that like will see the house, it'll disappear and string, and then I will go back with somebody else, the ability I have to show you this, unlike they hope that happens again. Most people have never seen IT twice. Love is another thing.
So bad once in a lifetime, shit. Now, another paraNormal citing is the blue light phenomenon, and this is the most reported one from bachelor's group cemetery OK. According to research done by Peter, I think it's created a he's the founder of bachelor's growth cemetary, an settlement research center, and his a ton of writing about the different hunts here.
So definitely check check them out. But he said, the first report of this seems to come from jack, her man si back in one hundred and seventy. Jack was out in the cemetery and he said, saw this blue light, he said, as he watched at the lake, quote grew as large as a basketball, blinked to intend to. Twenty second innovations in rapidly changed positions.
who.
so the sightings differ in opinions about, when excited, also differ. Some people say they see IT during the day, but other people say that only comes out on clear.
very moonlit nights.
I love that some people have been chased by this light. They claim stop. Some people also say they felt compelled to follow IT and have started to follow IT in, have made IT pretty far. And then they'll be startled when IT appears right behind them, like you will be like leading the way and then you'll like you'll lose track of IT and you'll turn around. It'll be right behind you and you are like.
what do you want? What's what's up?
What are you trying to tell me? What do you need .
that's going on?
Also says that they were pushed to the ground by the light, but I don't personally think the light would be that road.
yeah. I need to like the light.
I don't want the light to be that room. I don't think IT is yeah. Now on ghost adventures, they actually did see a blinking light off in the distance.
It's fucking clear as day. I couldn't tell if I was blue because of the night vision camera. yeah. But they captured IT and IT like moves in everything. spooky.
Now, one of the .
more rare reported sightings is the yellow man.
Yellow man Peter crep a wrote .
that the first written record talking about the yellow man sitting was in october of one thousand and eighty. The chicago son at times reported that researcher, Normal. But cee, I think IT is, saw the Operation and took a photo using A A thousand speed film.
Norman was still told them. A month and a half ago, I saw an Operation standing by a tree that was a yellow figure of man with a hat, probably in his forties now. So that's like what got reported.
But apparently that night, Norman, in a group of paraNormal researchers, including deal kasbah, I think as I you say, that is the president of the ghost research society and he also, I don't know if the time who's responsible of for its somebody in that society that took that famous picture of the White woman, the woman and White, oh, 是, but he was also camping with Norman, and they were all, you know, doing research. But IT was one of the other researchers, supposedly ly, who saw the yellow man. And there actually wasn't a photo taken.
And they were also shaken because after the Operation disappeared, they saw red string lights and watched in disbelief as a single tree began to shake. Forensic is not fuck in terrifying. And I saw that they .
packed up and the fuck out, I agree. But another woman saw .
the yellow man Operation while he was investigating the area. SHE was actually getting bored because he wasn't experiencing anything like SHE went here with these hopes of, you know, seeing the house, catching the lady and why nothing was happening yeah and he was thinking, like i'm onna packed up and had out of her seen like nothing has happened and that's when he saw the Operation oh yeah so the Operation was like, right, you're going to something.
Now the crazy thing about this experience is that he was there with two other people and she's the only one who saw IT. That's weird. But SHE literally saw IT and just started running.
SHE left. SHE was so scared, like, fuck that. no. Another woman who was investigating the cemetery, na jingoes, I was distracted in standing by one of the grapes in a lot when he saw something out of the corner of I.
And at the time, he started to feel really dissident, light added, he said, but obviously shouldn't want to miss the opportunity to photograph whatever this was. So SHE whipped around to take the photo, and SHE realized that her camera was on a completely different setting than the one shead put in. SHE said, once I started feeling DIY, IT was almost as though I was surrounded, somehow was surrounded and being guided to take this photo.
When I grabbed my digital camera, I notice that that I was turning on and off by itself. And IT was on a different setting than the one I had choose an earlier. That's weird.
yeah. Now other haunts include people seeing phantom old timmy cars like still driving on the road, all the versions of the blue light. There's also people I see like red lights too. okay? Some people have seen a phantom black dog either sitting at the entrance or running along .
the paths of the a lot dog.
I do too. And guess what? One of our listeners has been to the cemetery, of course, in reduce, a captivating tale about multiple experiences theyve.
So this is lady's tae hello. Ladies says, hey, all lavie here. I love you in your podcast so much. And I benched nearly everything in about three weeks. I haven't heard bachelors growth brought up before until now, lady, until now.
And just wanted to share a few of my experiences from back in the day when I wasn't as much of a little bitch about spooky things. All of these stories took place in the years of two thousand and five to two thousand and seven while I was a teenager. So they're probably less dramatic than what really happened.
But there are things I will also never forget. I also apologize that my broke asses writing this on my phones since I don't have a working computer, all names have been changed. So they were bachelor's growth as a hunted cemetary, an illness.
Y it's pretty informal for many reasons, including producing one of the clearest pictures ever produced to a spirit. There are many fascinating tales about this place, and I have a few of my very own, which are probably, which probably aren't going to be exactly what you're expecting. I have three scarious experiences and an ending palliser that's relatively funny. To set this up, in order to get to the cemetery, you have to park at a forest preserve across the street and walk a trail that's about a half a mile along the entrance to this trail has a he has a chain across with a sign saying no trust passing.
So i'm assuming it's closed and say maybe that gives a which .
naturally no one gave a shit about, but the forest preserve parking lot would close at some down. So there was also a long backtrack where you would need to park in neighborhood and walk a few blocks to the forest stage where that trail began. And eventually IT meets up with the main trail leading into the cemetery.
Everything about this place is straight up creepy because of all the stories rounding the cemetery, and naturally brought out flocks of teenagers like, like to go there at night. And I was also a place to party. Thankfully, we never party out there.
And a few times as we went during the day, and we clean up garbage leftover from other people. Now that is, from the first time I went there, I had a respect for the area. The graves were over a hundred years old, and this was a sacred place that others abused, which I do regret taking entertainment from IT.
However, i'm glad had these experiences because theyve stuck with me all these years. So to get to the juice, my first experience came out about nine P. M.
On a summer night when I was sixteen. My best friend, magi, and I decided to go to the back trail. Since all our plans fell through, we walked a few blocks and came to the street.
That leads to the back trail. We were joking around, being kind of loud and annoying. We got to about a block away.
My friend grabbed my ARM and just stops me. Maggie says, what the fuck? And points toward the entrance of the trail.
There's a massive buck standing in the entrance. Now, dear, a very common in in an in illinois. So this isn't unheard of.
However, this dear did not move and IT wouldn't take our its eyes off our faces. We stared at IT for a minute and I said, focal, let's go. Magie had to wait a minute since it'll just move.
I decided I did not want to be gored by a dear that needs are refused and said, no, I have the keys. Let's bounce. I like that of yeah, that's smart.
A as we went back and forth the cards of past this year and IT didn't move, IT kept staring at us. And that image still haunts me. We started walking quickly to the car and turned back a few times, and the deer never moved.
After walking a few blocks, we lost side of the entrance, thankfully. But once we turned back, there was a dog sitting in the middle of the street just looking at us. If IT was the deer, I would have literally come.
Stated in the midst of the street, you're not just to run from a potential predator, but we just booked at the remaining few blocks to my car. Not weird. That's creepy.
So like I feel like there's like spirits like in the animal working out for this place. Now second cookie, at this time, my mom and stepped, had an amazing dog named George R. I P.
He was a huge rock wire in german chabert mix. He was the best dog of ever met. He was extremely friendly and well trained.
The only time he would ever get aggressive as if you were playing that way, or if he came across other dogs. And even then I was out of excitement. I never saw him act aggressively towards other people for no reason.
One day in another friend, AManda and I decided to go to bachelor's group of and take rocky with us. I think the dog's name was rocky, but I got missed up at the first part. Okay, since IT was during the day, we parked across the street, one to the cemetery, walked around a bit and left after about an hour just hanging out.
During this time, we pass multiple people, and in a few of them even came up to rocky in petted him and did small talk in hindside. It's kind of weird of people do hiking banter when trust passing in a cemetery. Anyway, you know, rocky was so happy since he loved the attention in the forest.
Walking the short trail back to the car, a large man wearing a black leather trench go was walking the other direction toward the forest. Not really weird. And we initially were not scared because there were people in the cemetery.
So we weren't necessarily alone. When we were about thirty weet feet away. Rocky just stops. I immediately got freaked out because he usually tries to approach people, and I usually have to hold them back.
But rocky then stood in front of me and started growling, told this guy I had a kneel down and wrap my arms around his chest to keep him from attacking that guy. The dude didn't even look at us. He walked straight past us to nearly ran into the dog.
Since he didn't even move over, he never looked back. And after he turned towards entrance of the cemetery, rocky, calm down enough for me to keep him walking to the car. So that was weird.
So that was weird. Final, spooky. In the last time I have ever been to the cemetery, amand. And I had to sleep over and being the degenerate teenagers we were, we set up all night and thought I would be really cool to go to the bachelor's growth of that, since we've never done that before.
So with summer still, and we got there about five thirty am, and the sun is rising, IT was a little foggy near the ground, but clear outside. Luckily, the forest preserve parking lot was unlocked, so we could take the short trail. We got to the entrance of the trail.
And for some reason, I just immediately felt, read, I don't know how to explain IT. IT wasn't like a fighter flight or fight thing. IT was just an intense sadness.
But I just ignored IT, and we start walking. We never talked this whole way, which I didn't realize until after the fact, every step that I took felt heavy. My whole body felt like I was fighting to push through the space in front of me just to take a step.
All the while, the drug is growing. I even feel kind of light headed. About halfway down the trail, I stopped.
AManda also stopped and looked at me, and we just turned around and started walking back to the car. Now my fighter flight kicked in. We went back to the car and shared that we both felt similarly.
IT was terrifying. I've never felt that intense feeling of dread ever again, and I really hope I never do. I literally never went back after that day, and I never .
only should.
which that had to be like such an intense fear.
yeah. Now.
for a relatively funny story, a few weeks before my final visit, a huge group of us, rody teenagers, decided to go to the cemetery to hang out. Because why not violate a peaceful place when you're bored and have nowhere to go? Just so we were talking about as long as you're not tip in headstones yeah.
So I was completely darker and we needed to take the backside. The lock was fine, but we were super loud. We get to the cemetery, an, we break off in the groups and walk around.
After about ten minutes, another group shows up, running in terrifying and said, the thing all teenagers thread the fucking cops. Are the everyone books IT in different directions? Keep in mind, this is not a maintained for forested area.
So outside the short main trail to the cemetery is a fucking forest. So me, and like three others, trudge into this haunted hill forest, trying to find a path to the stress. So we can just walk back to the car after about an hour of using our nokia phones for light, we finally get to the street.
So I am a five, three petite White as girl. And let me tell you what people saw walking out of this haunted hill forest. I was wearing black shorts in a dirty White tantot, and I was torn all up from the thorns and branches.
I had small cuts all over my body, including my face, that we're just dropping blood at this point. Anyone driving past at that moment saw a child walk out of this haunted forest, covering in blood all over my body, and no one stopped. Anyway, you guys are great, and I hope you come to deal chicago one day. Stay weird. Thanks, lady.
Holy ship.
Interesting cemetery. That semey .
sounds nearly.
I want to go to there.
I want to go.
I want to go to there. And I want to see the madona, and I want to see the disappearing house. Yes, I think we should go.
Chick is not even not far. Let's go. I A family in chicago. High time. Greg.
here you go. Hi Tommy. Greg.
we love you. We do.
They love you so much. I love them. love. There's so much love here. So I think we need to go.
We need .
to see these broken cemeteries.
Let's go see some, some matters.
I want to see the westminster bering .
grounds.
but that's just in .
maryland, not even that far.
Roadtrip bitch is just gonna bopped around the cemeteries. Until then.
we hope you keep listening and we hope you .
keep IT.
S P E C T.
For lee. I know what that means. The cemetery.
Oh my god. That was great.
Oh my, oh my god.
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