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Isn't It Ironic?

2024/11/11
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Mark Zandi: 欧洲对美国大选结果感到担忧,主要体现在贸易、地缘政治和乌克兰问题上。欧洲普遍认为特朗普政府会施压乌克兰与俄罗斯迅速达成协议,这可能带来短期利好,但长期来看存在风险,尤其是在北约安全和欧洲自身国防开支方面。欧洲对特朗普获胜并不感到意外,但其获胜的幅度之大令人惊讶。“氛围衰退”(vibecession)是导致特朗普获胜的部分原因,经济数据虽然向好,但并未被美国民众普遍感受到。“氛围衰退”在欧洲也存在,年轻人对未来充满担忧,储蓄率上升,消费需求不足,这与地缘政治风险和美国大选结果有关。大选后金融市场出现反弹,这反映了投资者对未来政策的预期,但长期影响仍存在不确定性。鉴于大选结果,美联储是否应该更加关注物价稳定而非充分就业?全球事件和社交媒体的放大效应加剧了人们对经济形势的焦虑。贸易谈判的不确定性将对企业投资和经济增长产生负面影响。 Marisa DiNatale: 特朗普赢得所有摇摆州的结果令人惊讶,其胜利的范围之广超出了预期。“氛围衰退”影响广泛,各个社会群体都感受到经济压力,这与民主党在信息传递上的不足有关。即使收入增长超过通胀,人们仍然对物价上涨感到不满,因为他们认为物价上涨是外部因素造成的,而非个人努力的结果。股市上涨是由于投资者预期减税和放松监管,这将提高企业利润和股价。尽管失业率低,但民众对物价上涨的感受更为直接,这使得宏观经济数据对他们而言缺乏说服力。哈里斯竞选团队应该更多地强调特朗普政策的通胀风险。经济学家在向公众传达经济信息方面负有责任,但公众对经济数据的解读存在差异。 Cris deRitis: 对特朗普获胜并不意外,但其胜利的巨大优势令人惊讶。金融市场反弹是由于投资者预期减税、增加支出和放松监管等政策,这将促进短期经济增长,但长期影响仍存在不确定性。股市上涨、债券收益率下降以及通胀预期上升,是多种因素共同作用的结果,包括减税、放松监管、并购活动增加以及潜在的通胀压力。哈里斯竞选团队在经济信息传递方面存在不足,但要解决通胀问题并非易事。特朗普政府很可能会实施其竞选承诺的政策,这将对经济产生影响。

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Mark Zandi joins from Europe to discuss European perspectives on the U.S. election and its potential economic impact. The discussion covers concerns about trade, geopolitical issues, and the surprising nature of Trump's victory.
  • Europeans are nervous about the U.S. election outcome and its impact on trade and geopolitical stability.
  • There's concern about pressure on Ukraine to negotiate with Russia and the implications for NATO.
  • The Trump administration's win, especially by a significant margin, surprised many Europeans.

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Mark joins the podcast from Europe to provide the European perspective on the U.S. election and how the outcome may affect their economies.  The team then dissects the reactions of the stock, bond, and cryptocurrency markets before turning to listener questions.  Marisa asks the group for their views on the vibecession, a term coined by Kyla Scanlon, to explain the disconnect between economists and the general public, and the integrity of economic data.  Cris's dog makes a special guest appearance.

 

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Hosts: Mark Zandi – Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, Cris deRitis – Deputy Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, and Marisa DiNatale – Senior Director - Head of Global Forecasting, Moody’s Analytics

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