In today’s episode, Erik Torenberg sits down with Auren Hoffman, CEO of SafeGraph, to discuss all things data business like building around products, selling horizontal data, second party data sharing, and much more.

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SafeGraph: https://www.safegraph.com/

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(00:00) Episode Preview

(01:09) What ties Auren's businesses together

(03:00) The importance of market share and declining CACs

(03:39) Challenges & types of data businesses

(05:00) Selling horizontal data

(05:40) People, places, organizations, and products

(10:12) Methods for sourcing and verifying data

(14:48) Potential of building data businesses around products

(16:21) The nuances in recommendations for people and products

(26:46) LinkedIn’s success and disappointments

(33:09) Windfall data and net worth

(34:27) Reputation and bias

(37:32) Challenges & potential for social recommendations

(42:10) Improving the user experience of LinkedIn

(47:12) Crossbeam & second party data sharing

(49:14) DSL Co-op & aggregating general ledger data

(50:41) Building a reputation database

(51:50) NDA network

(53:01) Software businesses masquerading as services businesses

(55:24) Incubators & structuring ownership

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