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okay i was on hinge the other day and i was looking at this guy's profile and he you know the the oh you don't know this but there's a prompt that says recently in the shower i thought of and you're supposed to say something that like is kind of funny and his was the fact that babies don't drink water and i was like what am i i like read out loud to my friend she goes yeah babies don't drink water for like the first three months i'm like what i would have put a baby water immediately that would have killed it they only drink milk yes wait but why do hold on

I confirmed it with my mother. No, I've never seen a baby drink water. I've never seen a handheld child with anything besides milk going in its mouth ever. That's good they don't. Are they not dehydrated? We're your besties in your ear for another episode of Mean Girl Pod.

Welcome back to another episode of Mean Girl Pod. That's your new thing. It's like the arm. If you're on YouTube, which you should be because we're in a hotel room. It's like this like ommeter. Mean Girl Pod.

Do it, actually. You've been doing it. I don't know. I've noticed it because I'm always like, what? And then you did it again and I'm like, what are we doing with the arm? I like it. It's like a welcome sunshine. It's to get people to watch us on YouTube. The audio listeners don't know what you're doing with your hand. It's a bad tactic. I feel like you and I are both big hand talkers. We're always like, yeah.

Yes. Who the other day told me less hands? Why? I love hand talkers. I can't remember. Yeah, I know. I think you could find it distracting. I love watching people talk with their hands and they have a lot of jewelry on and they like make like, it's like ASMR with jewelry. And I'm like, I could listen to this all day. Let's talk about the one and only our favorite presenting sponsor, that beautiful pink vodka, Pink Whitney. How much do you love it?

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ASMR or do they love it? I feel like a lot of people have ASMR fetishes. Is it oddly satisfying? Yeah. I mean, it's never really done it for me, but there's like ASMR specific channels. No. Oh my God. You've never seen those? No. That would drive me crazy. I think I would hate that. There's ASMR porn. What does it mean? That's what I think I thought it was. What is ASMR? I don't know what it is, but it's anything where it's like ASMR. Yeah. It's like whispering.

i know it's creepy i have to know what it means like what the asmr means yeah hey siri what does asmr mean oh that doesn't she doesn't talk oh anonymous an autonomous sensory meridian response but but also do you see the first one this is the feeling of well-being combined with tingling sensations that is so asmr people get like tingling sensations from people whispering in

I'm getting it in the scalp, in the back of the, down the back of the neck. Wow. My background's Mykonos because I'm going to go there. Oh yeah. What are you going? I don't know. I'm manifesting it though. I love that. I'm like planning it. I love that. I'm also manifesting. I'll be going to Europe in the near future. I need to go to Europe just because I've never been. You gotta go. It's like, it is just knocking on my soul and I'm like, all right, okay, I'll go. Speaking of travel, guess what? I flew first class this morning. Did you really? Yeah.

I'm so surprised. Oh, well, have you flown first? This is a dead serious question. Have you flown first class since I met you? No, I've never in my entire life. This is my first time. What did you think? Well, what airline? Delta, I assume. Delta. I got upgraded for free. Random. Not random. Status. Yes. They do not randomly pick from the pile. No, I finally got. Everyone's dating.

Everyone's names in a hat. Random. Like Jordan. 12D, you're actually going to be 1A today. No, I finally got, I've flown so much this past year. I finally moved up to almost gold status or maybe I am gold. I don't know. So now when I upgrade, I was like, I'll probably get Delta comfort. And then all of a sudden my screen went or my boarding pass went red. And I'm like, bitch, I'm sky priority and first class. Did you drink on the plane? I did. What's your half?

So I don't know anything about first class. Like I'm so naive to this whole process. And I thought that you just got like one alcoholic beverage for free. So I was like, obviously I have to take advantage of it. So I ordered mimosa at 10 a.m. And then I had my headphones on and I was finished with it. And the flight attendant came by and I thought he was like, can I take this from you? Are you done? And I was like, yeah, thank you. And I like nodded my head. I was like, yeah, thank you so much.

I think what he asked me was, do you want another? And then I got another and I was like, wait a second. They're free. Unlimited. Oh yeah. I did not know this. People get popped in first class. I got drunk this morning. I was drunk. I,

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I wish I would have been on a first class flight where they like ask you your order and you can like actually have a meal. This was like an old school, small plane, like one seat on one side. Oh, were you the one or the two? I was the one. The one's the best. It was nice. You need first class to like Vegas on. Okay. I think the best thing in the world is first class to Vegas at like 5 PM. So when you land, you're going out and you just take full advantage of

Oh I love that And you just drink You drink the whole flight right Then you land And you're like I pre-gamed for free The best first class to get Is the automatic upgrade Not the one you paid for Oh never I would never pay for first class On anything other than Maybe an LA flight Because it's six hours from New York But definitely like on a broad trip I would consider it

I think a good way to look at it is anything over three hours and then the price to do it. Because sometimes it's insane, but sometimes they're like, for $150, do you want to upgrade? And you're like, for four hours? Yeah. If I was a big guy, I would always do first class. The space is impeccable.

it's impeccable and you get and if you have a connection or something you're off so fast yeah and you know your bag's gonna be able to go but like there is like that ease of it but otherwise so i didn't check a bag i just did carry-ons i was out of the plane immediately like i saved probably 45 minutes doing that oh man that's right up your alley yeah it was lovely it's really right it's efficient and i just love a mimosa i want a mimosa kick lately i've been having margaritas

that scares me i know actually we can say where we are right now we're at the one hotel because this comes out on monday and i'll be back in new york by then my friend told me the one hotel is the best margaritas this one well i think just the chain oh i've never had a marg at a one might have to ever i've never done that we're gonna go let's get i don't want to look at our list yeah alex and i've been doing this new thing i think we talked about it last week we're like let's just write down random things that happen to us then chat about them and they're the

It's the best. It's so much like better. It keeps us on our toes because we realized when we chat too much about the episode, it becomes it seems to be too. It's never scripted, but it seems too robotic sometimes. But this is like very like impromptu. I never know what you're going to say or what we're going to talk about. And I like doing all the ads at the end, too. Yeah. It's like we can just flow and talk because they care so much because you guys are so concerned when we do our ads. When we slip our ad reads in. Wait, let's talk about we're going to do in Nashville. OK. Yeah.

um well tonight we're going out yes i don't even know what we're doing you sent me a voice memo and honestly i was drunk so i just was like option number i was like door number one door one i know i was like okay door one i actually thought for sure you were picking two so i was like oh okay i don't care i gave you i gave i held the keys to the two options so i like them both i don't remember the two options i genuinely was like all i heard was rooftop and number one i was like door number one i don't remember what either of the options are

Did I, is it bad? Did I pick a bad choice? No. Number one is like rooftop on the end of facing the river on the end of Broadway. Okay. And number two was like a slight Uber. I walked it, but we, I think we would Uber it if we had like any type of shoe on other than tennis shoe to say an Aho, which people say is like the best Mexican here and the marks were fire. So it's just, it just depends what you want, what vibe you want. Wait, did you cancel the second one? No, I might.

We can do the bar. Okay. I might want the second one just because if you say best marks in Mexican food in Nashville, like I feel like I have to, I'll let you decide. We'll think about it. Cause you're, I feel like I don't, you know, which two op, like what the two options are. I'm like,

I have no idea. You know when they're both good options, but it's just a matter... Well, we'll do this later. Yeah. People are like, shut up. What? Okay. Okay. I'm going to just close my eyes and pick one of these. That's terrifying. Okay. This one. What did I put in my home? What'd you do? Paying because he didn't show up to breakfast. Okay. So... I'm going to mark these when we do them. That happened. So I was meaning to tell you guys this story weeks ago. So one of my friends, the...

I think that this is, I don't know how I feel about this. So she went out in New York city. She met a guy at a bar. They started talking and they exchanged numbers. Met a guy like was meeting a guy there or happened to meet the guy next door. Sorry. Very good question. Um, met randomly a bar. Okay. Like exchange numbers vibe the whole night. Um, I know they did not go back to each other's place, but he was like,

You know how when you're drunk, you make plans. You're like, oh my gosh, let's get breakfast tomorrow morning. Let's hang out tomorrow morning. And yes, I'll book that trip. And yeah, and I'm going to do all these things. And then the next morning you're like, I'm not doing any of that. Well, then you wake up and everyone should just know that whatever plan you made drunk isn't going to happen sober. You have to correct delete. But this poor girl. So she's talking to this guy and he's like, let's go to Bubby's the next day. Like, let's have brunch together. And they picked a time, a place, everything. And she was like, okay, I'll see you there. Let's just say 1, 1 p.m.

So she goes the next day. He doesn't show up. And she texts him and she's like, where are you? And he was like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. Like, I didn't think this was actually a thing because what normal person, I don't want to be mean, but what normal person would, but he memoed her money and

To get food for herself. And I was like, wait, that's actually the sweetest thing someone could do. Okay. I'm... Okay. Or is it a cop-out? I don't know. It's not a cop-out. No one is showing up to Bubby's at 1 p.m. No, I mean, like, is the money thing a cop-out just so we just have to deal with it? No. No, I don't think you have to deal with it at all ever again. Okay. I think one...

why did she not text him or he text her beforehand that's what my other friend said she goes I never will go to a location until I confirm with the person that we're still on hey we still on for 1 p.m. he probably would have gone yeah but he because he because neither of them heard yeah so that's a wash but no I think if she's like hey where are you he's like oh my god there's no way I thought it was serious it could be over right then he didn't owe her a thing I think he must have liked her though and was like wait now I will say this what

With no follow-up. And then if they both showed up at 1 p.m., that's like a movie scene. That's like the cutest meet-cute ever. That's like, wait, we actually came? And then they could laugh about it. I knew you weren't coming. And then he's like, I mean, I knew you weren't coming. And they both went. What's that word? Destiny. I keep wanting to say cosmetic. Do you know what I'm thinking of? No. Are you trying to say like meet-cute or like... Where it's like the universe brings two people together. Yeah.

It's like, it's like cosmetic, but not cosmetic. Like if something happens, cause I can't pronounce the word either. Wait, I don't even know. I try to help with like, for example, me and my roommate, we're trying to move and we went and got dinner at this really good Mexican restaurant on the Upper East Side. And then the next day, the apartment we were looking at was right next door. And she's like, oh, it's coincidence. No. Oh, I was like, oh no. And she's like, maybe it's meant to be. It's so crazy.

I don't know the word. Oh my God, wait. It's so... Wait, okay. It's right next door. It's so...

I don't know. I can like hear the word in my head, but I can't pronounce it. Now that you saying that in that light, I think, I think I know it. It'll probably hit me tonight. Also, please don't DM us it. Don't tell us. Don't tell us the word. We'll, we will know it by then. If it exists. We will know it in an hour. Yeah. We're going to know it. Yeah. Check. Okay. I love that. I like that story. Thank you. Yeah. Can we talk about something quick? Yes. Okay. First of all, I was sitting in bed today waiting for you. And I was like, so strange that we get paid just to talk to each other. Yeah.

I was, because you ever think about that? Like, just like today I was in an Uber and I was like, it's so weird that we trust random people to drive us around. Do you ever have those thoughts? Oh my gosh. Yes. But then, then I think about, well, one, like,

no no she didn't no no i was like she surely doesn't mean the water wait how many mimosas did you have i'm not joking i was looking at this making sure it was still recording and i was trying to multitask and grab this because i didn't want you to think i wasn't paying attention she was trying to grab her water but it wasn't close and i was like holy cow this is water by the way no my most it was at 10 it's like what two o'clock now i'm sober now yeah yeah and showered oh you did oh i saw the room service yeah what'd you get

A Caesar salad Oh yum Okay Do you know what else I've been thinking about? What? Like okay So Uber never existed right Because there was like cabs And then somebody made Uber Novel Now we don't know I can't imagine Traveling somewhere

I mean, I know you take taxis all the time, but sometimes there's not taxis. Like Uber's made our life completely different. I was looking at like a liquid death water the other day and I was like, I'm so drawn to those. Like I'm insanely, I want a whole pack at home. And I was like, somebody just took a basic water bottle, put it in a can, slapped phenomenal branding on it. And like, it's worth millions, billions. It's like taking such simple industries and making them better. Every time I break down a box, I'm like, can someone, can someone,

Please unify this. Make it, you know what I'm like? And it is so, so to your point, it's so odd that we let strangers drive us, but I don't want to not let them drive us. No, it's even like when I'm moving, we're looking at one bedroom flex walls. I'm like genius. Whoever invented the flex wall. There's one company in New York who does it all. A flex wall. Yeah. Yeah. That is smart. I'm like, no need to invent something new. Just,

Make something that's already invented better Now I'm thinking What was the flex wall invented Or should we make it better I think we could make it better You know I'm always thinking about that Like the peanut butter and jelly That's my favorite example They had the Uncrustable Then Chubby came along And they took something every kid wants Makes it better Now they've got those healthier Lunchables I'm like people are You know what else is so crazy to me Sort of like the Uber thing Like the guy that let me up to your room Like he could also come in your room

Like we just like these people have these all access hotel keys and we're just like perfect. It's kind of weird how much we don't trust people and how weird we do trust people. That that's a bridge to one of my topics. Oh God. What? Well, I was, it's, so I'm reading this book and I,

Okay, actually, I'm going to go here first. This is an episode I was listening to. Okay. How when you have your, like when you're thinking, okay, we never doubt negative thoughts, but we always doubt positive thoughts. So I was like listening to this guy who studied Gandhi and

And he was saying, when you're depressed, you never doubt if you're depressed. When you're angry at somebody, you're never questioned if you're angry. You know, you're angry. You know, you're depressed. You know, you lied. You know, um, if you're anxious and you're always like, oh my gosh, like I feel these things so strongly when you're really happy. You're like, well, when's the other shoe going to drop?

You know? Or you're like, I love that person. I'm so scared of that though. Why am I scared of that? Instead of like, I hate them. You know you feel that emotion, but you never let yourself be like, I'm happy and I just love them. You're always like, I'm so scared of when that's going to fall off. That's so funny you said that. So maybe like...

I don't know, like five months ago when I was seeing that one guy more consistently. I remember one day, because I love sad music. I love listening to music. It makes me cry. I love to think about like old heartbreaks. I don't know. It's just something I love to do. But I remember when I was seeing him, I was like, wait, this music hits different because I'm not sad. Why am I happy? I feel weird being happy. And then today, I remember I was sitting eating my Caesar salad and I was like, I'm happy.

Why am I happy? This is weird. When am I going to be sad again? I remember thinking those exact thoughts. But when I'm sad, I'm never like questioning that once. I'm like, I'm sad. Maybe I'll be happy again. I don't know.

But you know you're sad. Yeah. Why when we're happy are we not just knowing that we're happy? Yeah. It's like so you said yeah happy angry honest all those things like we start to doubt and I was like wow we do. It's so fascinating. Yeah. And then okay the other thing kind of like on that that I was reading

Is I used to have it Okay how you appear Okay you know when you were in like middle school Or elementary school And there was like the cool kids let's say Let's say there's like three popular girls And they're all up for homecoming queen And they have three popular guys Like we've seen in a million movies And they will have a party But there's only six of them So they start inviting little ancillary people And they're like y'all can all come And we all go to the party But the three and the three are stuck together Right because they're the three queens And the three kings

And then everybody else around them is like pretending to have fun. And they're like, yeah, I'm here, but they're not, they're never in the circle, so to speak. And so the girl writing this book is speaking as the one that was always invited to the party, but never in.

Oh. And so she was like, it didn't matter how I really felt because how I really felt was I didn't want to be there. I would have been having so much more fun eating popcorn with my mom and dad, like watching a movie on the couch. But instead I thought I should want to be invited to this party. So I went because it's the cool thing to do. Then when I'm there, it didn't, it didn't matter how I actually felt. It mattered how I appeared to be feeling. So if I was having fun and I was cool to be invited to the party and then everyone looked at me and thought I was having fun, how you appear to feel,

Is how others perceive you. Yeah. Instead of just how you feel. Right. Like, well, I think there's two layers to it. Like one, you're already doing something outside of you. So there's that component. You don't even want to be there. But number two, once you're there, we'll take it as far as being like, well, act happy because we're supposed to. But then you say for what? Why do why do we act happy because we're supposed to? So everyone around you thinks you're having fun. Yeah. It's like this concept. I was like, oh, so how you appear to feel. Yeah.

Like I think I take it to certain stages of our lives where you're supposed to be happy or sad depending on what's happening to you and it's like or You could really be like yeah, these things that are happening suck I'm happy like I'm actually really happy and then but nobody will take that unless you appear happy to all of them and like their definition of happy otherwise if you're not living by their definition, then you're not happy and

Oh my God. Yeah. I think that's a story of my life. Like right now I I'm moving because I feel like that's my personality trait. Like finding apartments is the most stressful thing. It's a full-time job. But every time I'm looking at these apartments, I'm like, why am I moving?

I, my apartment is, I mean, I live in a shoebox, but it's fine. It's cheap as can be. It's doable. But then whenever I think about why I'm moving, I'm like, well, I want to move because I want a nicer place. I'm like, why do I want a nicer place? Oh, because I want people to come over and be like, oh, she's not poor. Like,

When I think about getting a new place, it's for other people to think of me in a different way because I'm afraid if people come over and see how shitty my apartment is, they'll think less of me, which I know is such like weird thoughts because I have no friends who would actually think that. But I'm always like I'm moving. So other people perceive me in a different way. OK, that's interesting. Because when you see someone with a really nice apartment, your first thought is, oh, they have their life together. Oh, they're

Well off. Oh, they're so mature. Oh, this or that. But then, so I don't know, for some reason I look at my apartment and I'm like, this is how I feel like people will perceive me if they see my apartment. But I'm like, deep down, I'm content with my apartment. It's literally cheap and I'm never home. So it does its job. Oh, that's so fascinating because, okay. So I always think about hotel rooms or how we talk about boob jobs or things like that.

So I want the biggest hotel room I can get for the same price, right? If there's an upgrade available on my app, I'm like, you got to give it to me. I'm not, not so anybody can see it because truly I'm happier if I have space. Mm-hmm.

especially living in New York. That's for me, right? But I see what you're saying. Like, if it's the same boob job thing, like if you're like, I truly want to look in the mirror and just love my tits versus like, I mean, I just want that guy to think I'm hot. Yeah. And so it's like, I think you can always get still because there's not a right or wrong answer. If you want to move because, oh my God, do you want to see grass or you hate your bathroom and you're just like, I really want to, whatever it is, I think that's so valid. But I think if you're like,

I think it's cool that you can recognize like, I like, I'm fine in my apartment. The only reason I want to move is so people think of me differently versus I'm actually happier when I hit the door. Well, and also ask me how many people have come to my apartment in two years, maybe five. You've never even been there. Most of my friends have never even been there. Like people don't come over based off of where I live. So I'm like, why do I even care? My roommate actually said something to me yesterday that like really opened my eyes and

I'm trying to think if I can, I'm trying to make sure I word it correctly, but she was, her example was looking for new jobs because in her, like a, like a year ago, she was looking for a new job, which she has now. And her dad was like, never leave a job. Oh, what is it? It's like never leave something. Oh, I can't. Oh crap. I can't remember what it is. I have to think for a second. It was like, never leave something. That's more like never leaving to chase something. Only leave something.

It's something about like, don't leave a job because you're chasing a new one. Only leave a job if one that you want, like come something like that. Crap. I'm gonna have to text her and ask her that quote. Cause it was like a bit like a very monumental moment. I was like, wow, I really love this scope. And I can't think of it off the top of my head. I wonder what it is. I'm going to text her. Okay. What's that quote you told me yesterday? What was that quote? Um, I guess I have to hear the quote first to know what I think.

Yeah, I mean, she's going to probably take a year to text back, but we'll see. What's the quote your dad told me yesterday? That's what I just wrote. Told... What's the quote your dad told... I can't do anything these days. What's the quote your dad...

I told you that you told me. We'll come back to it. I'm getting my period, so I'm in that week where I can't, like, talk straight things straight. I get it. I get it. I totally get it. My period's been really bad lately. Like, it's coming later, and the cramps are worse, and it's like I'm not crabby anymore. I'm just tired. I have that to look forward to. Yeah, I mean, if I'm getting mine, that means you're getting yours. Oh, yeah, and we are. We are about four weeks from Charlotte. Yeah.

It's already been four weeks since Memorial weekend. Remember, remember how we were then we were cramping. I wonder if that was actually a really good episode. I was going to say, I wonder if people can tell where we're at in our cycles based off our episode, because like, I definitely have less energy really close to my period. So I just wonder if people like, yeah, that was like a lower energy episode. I don't know. I don't know either.

Oh, she texted me. Wow, that was so fast. Okay, what'd she say? She said, don't run from a job, run towards a job. So it's like, don't... Like for me, it was like, don't run from this apartment just to run. Only run from your apartment if you find... If your dream apartment is...

Like hitting you in the face. Okay. I was going to say I was going to have a really big problem with the original quote. Yeah. Because I'm not for, because I think it breeds complacency mentality. I don't remember what I said originally. It was something along the lines of like, don't leave one thing unless you for sure have the other. Yeah. But I think it's like, because then I think we get stuck. Oh yeah. No, this is what I meant. Okay. I can say it again if you want. Yeah. Say one more time. So hers was don't run from a job.

don't run from a job run towards a job love it so like for me don't run from your apartment run towards your apartment like only run to that next apartment like if the one that you actually want is hitting you in the face don't just like run from an run from something just to run right don't just run yeah yeah yeah I actually I like that because um Drake one time posted before back before he was successful he lived successful like he lived this life of

Like pretty grassy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was like, I always kind of had this thing going on where some of my friends would be like, you do too much or you live a little too large. And he was like, people would think I was doing it to show off. But he's like, I'm not. I'm training my mentality. I know where I'm ending up. And so he's like, I'm just already living my life. And I was like, I always think that's kind of cool. I literally...

It's so weird. I feel like everything you're saying, I'm like, wow, I just thought that today. It's like I'm living in the future. Yeah. But when I did first class, I was like, I was making a TikTok and I was like, I'm just training myself for my future. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. That's like, I think so many times people get, okay, so...

Sometimes people are like, oh, I'm so proud of myself because I hit a goal. And then sometimes I think it's funny that we don't think about that of more of like, you're so proud of yourself for what you were capable of. Yeah. Like, like, I'm glad you're proud and I'm glad you set the goal. Mm hmm.

but God damn, you should hit it every time. Like if you are capable for it, I really want, it's like, we're like, I hit it. And it's like, we're also not clapping that like you ordered breakfast. Cause like you are capable of all these things, but we think that there, it's like, we don't realize our potential. But I think by him living that way, he's like, no, I knew my potential and I just acted on it. I was, I was talking to a friend the other day who's staying for one month in like this really cool apartment.

And she was like, I love this place. And I was like, oh my God, one day you're going to get it. She's like, no, no, no. Yeah, no, for sure. And like, that was like, that was it. Yeah. And she just like knew. And I was like, oh, I love like thinking about things that way of like, I was also, I also heard today, like you make a, you, so you set a goal and sometimes we'll be like, it would be awesome if I hit the ceiling, but if not like right below, it's cool too. But it's like, instead we could think,

I'm going to hit the ceiling or above it. Yeah. I always say like, I mean, I want to be rich one day. I'm not gonna lie about that. And I always say when I'm rich, I never say if I'm going to be rich. I was like, well, when I'm rich, I'll do this. And my friends have been like, wait, I love that you said that. I'm like, well, it's going to come true. Like never say if you're going to be rich one day, you'll do it when you're going to be rich one day you do it because you're

What you start to tell yourself will come true. Like you're a true reflection of your reality. Yeah. And I even, and I think people should get like specific with it. Like, okay, so rich. Okay. So, um, I'm going to start a wine company, but then it's like wine company. No, but like not just start a wine, like a vineyard, like a global one. That's like the top selling. Yeah. So it's like, that's like the floor. And then you like build on it and people are like, I'm dreaming so big. And it's like, dreaming is a form of planning. Yeah. I was listening to Mel Robbins podcast yesterday.

I mean, I listen to podcasts like every day, but one thing she was talking about was you should write down five things you want every day, even if it's different every day. It could be you want a Chanel bag. It could be you want to get a million dollars. You want the most successful podcast in the world. And I do that every morning now. And she was saying it's like, because if you put that out there, your brain, something in your brain will start to activate for it to start striving for those things. And I'm like, I just wish more people would.

I mean, it's really hard to believe in yourself for all working on it and knowing your worth. But I just wish more people like believed in their potential and knew that they could do most things that they put their mind to. Could do like almost like seriously all of them. I don't know who taught us that we can't do what we what we put our mind to. With the exception of being like right now, I'm going to go to the moon. Yeah. Like that's that'd be difficult. But I mean, think about it. If X, Y and Z can start X, Y and Z, why can't you? Well, and they always will tell you when you watch the documentaries on them.

I mean, they're always like, I mean, yeah, I just started doing it because they loved it. And then like before they knew it, it's like one comes to another. I would like to ask like Phil Knight or somebody. Who's that? The founder of Nike or like a Zuckerberg. That was my first guess. Oh, yeah. I'm like obsessed with him. Be like, did you know? Like you do, right? Because you wouldn't have maxed out all those credit cards like you knew in your gut. Well, they believed in themselves. Yeah.

they kept maxing out those cards because they knew one day they were going to create a successful brand. They maybe didn't know what it was going to be before they maxed out, but they knew they were about to create something so big where they

the reward would benefit them one day and it would pay back all those credit cards the gut feeling it's just like and i feel like over time i've gotten so much better at that but i just want to shake people when they even my friend the other day saying you can't have everything you want in a relationship or someone being like my dreams are to pick it's like no they're not and yes you can have everything if you just believe in yourself right i just want to shake people

Yeah. Like life is short. You literally live once. Why don't you just go for what you want? What's the worst that will happen? Oh, you'll fail. Oh, whoop-dee-doo. We all fail at things like suck it up. Or somebody will say no. Like I would so much rather somebody say no than me not ask. Like me being like, I'm not going to apply for that job because I'm not going to get it. You don't even have a shot at getting it if you don't apply. Literally, like I was talking to these two guys the other day and they were saying like, oh, when you go out, do you approach guys? And I was like, shh.

no, I never do. I was like, I literally was like, if I go out with Alex, she approached them for me. It's great. And they were like, well, why not? And I was like, I don't, I don't know actually. And they're like, you do realize like guys love when girls, um, guys love when girls approach them. Like also with everything that's happened with like sexual assault and me too. And some men are like very scared of approaching girls cause they don't want to come off as creepy. So now more than ever, men love when women approach them and,

And I feel like in all aspects of my life, I'm so okay with rejection and just shooting my shop. But with approaching people that I think are cute at the bars, I never do. And now this summer, my whole goal this summer is to just approach any guy at the bar that I think is cute. Because I struggle in that area. But I think I'll be a billionaire one day. It's the craziest thing. Yeah. No, I think though...

So tonight, if I see a cute boy, you better force me to approach them. I will. I will force you to approach them. I have this like very good feeling too about natural dissonance. Like I think it's just to be very one of those like fun. Have you seen that TikTok trend the last summer? Do you think I've seen the TikTok trend? No. So there's this TikTok trend going around called the last summer where single girls are, you should always go into, I guess you could use this in any aspect of your life, going into a season of your life,

training your brain that it's the last time you'll ever live this way so single girls are like this is my last summer ever single so I better live it up and then they go and have like the craziest summer of their life and it could I mean it could be you wanting to move to New York City next year so like this is the last summer I'll be in Oklahoma I better live up Oklahoma because I'll move to New York it could be about anything but I'm like

I just like you've been having that mentality and like good things are going to happen. That's a good, I like that mentality actually a lot. It's very highly applicable. Yeah. I mean, you could even use it. Like anyone can use it. Well, I could be like, this is my last time in Nashville. Yes, you could. Or like, but I want to come back to Nashville. So I'm trying to think of like how, well, you don't have to. Oh my God. I could do the trend every day for the next eight days. This is my last eighth to last day in my twenties. I could, I could milk that trend. Will you send it to me? I'll find it. Oh my God, Alex, you're going to be 30. Yeah.

In, well, actually a week and two days. Is that the timing? Next Saturday is the 1st of July. Yep. What are you doing for your birthday? NASCAR. Oh, yes. Yes, my happiest time of life. I will be in Chicago for the NASCAR race. And you're here for NASCAR as well. Yeah. Bar opening in NASCAR. Oh, yeah. We're excited about the bar opening. I think it's going to be really fun. Oh, my God. Yeah. It's, yeah, it's a great, great location. Yeah.

I just feel funny today. First class girly. We did that. I can tell you feel funny. I like love it. Yeah. Can you tell I feel funny? Yes. I can seem off. No, no, you know, you don't seem off to me. Like there's versions of us and it's like, we've seen them. So I'm like, I've seen this one. I just feel so loopy, like chaotic. Like I could literally, I, if you put them, if you put one plus one in front of me, I'd be like, I don't know. Maybe it's three. Like, I don't really care. And I promise it's not because I had mimosas. I've been like this all week.

It's kind of like giddy though. Even in therapy, I was like, something's wrong with me. And she's like, you're fine. No, something's wrong with me. I was like, I can't function. I was like, I get so fixated and I can't function. It's just like the weirdest thing. What are you getting fixated on? I get fixated on everything. Like that light. I could just stare at it.

and then be like oh wait sorry oh my god I have not noticed that light yet because I've been staring at the traffic like you could tell me like the other day my friend told me that she wants to move out of New York which is just so like don't even say that to me because I'll start to panic because I want to live here for a long time and then the whole day that's all I thought about and everything every time she brought something up big well you're gonna move so it doesn't even matter it's

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Maybe abandonment issues. Like I'll live here and all my friends and everyone I love will disappear one day. But do you feel it on a level of she doesn't like the city or she doesn't like you?

Neither I feel on a I'm so afraid of abandonment I'm afraid I'm gonna be abandoned one day So no matter where you lived you would think this Yeah Okay so it's a you level Yeah it's fully me Okay But I was just fixated on that thought the whole day And I'm like Jordan get the thought out of your head She's not moving for another two years if that She has a lease Oh yeah she's not going anywhere I know I get very fixated on futuristic thoughts that are irrational

Oh, okay. Hypotheticals. Yeah. Yep. We can't. We're. Yeah, I've not been allowing my brain to do those. I know. I, I, in therapy, I've been working on taking that thought and vanishing it because it's not helpful to overthink. Well, and it's not even happening. No, but it's like my brain's filled with all these thoughts constantly that I can't think straight about anything. It's just I've been in a weird headspace lately.

This past like week But I've been so like weirdly happy I don't know what's going on with me It'll pass I think it's because of my period Yeah I do think it's like foggy I have been in like the best headspace I've been in in probably this year Really? The past like four days yeah I had to I was like let's whip it into shape girl I love that for you Yeah I was like let's I did three therapy sessions

Um, but it was like untangling and then it was like peaceful. It felt peaceful. Like I felt at peace and like, um, less chaotic. I think like some, I think I would like to not go into it. Okay. Let's pick another one. Babies don't drink water. That's,

okay oh my god is that true yes the other day my okay i was on hinge the other day and i was looking at this guy's profile and he you know the the oh you don't know this but there's a prompt that says recently in the shower i thought of and you're supposed to say something that like is kind of funny and this was the fact that babies don't drink water and i was like what am i i like read out loud to my friend she goes yeah babies don't drink water for like the first three months i'm like what i would have fed a baby water immediately that would have killed it

They only drink milk Yes Wait, but why do Hold on

I confirmed it with my mother. No, I've never seen a baby drink water. I've never seen a handheld child with anything besides milk going in its mouth ever. Are they not dehydrated? Well, that's what I thought. I'm like, why can't humans can't go that long without water? Why can babies go that long without water? And also, if a baby was never fed water, would it be able to survive its whole life or just one day something just click in them and their systems like I need water to survive? I mean, yeah. What age did in the mom handbook does it say start giving them water?

Right? And no milk. Does milk have water in it? Is milk semi-hydrating? You couldn't drink milk for the rest of your life. You would have to have water. You would have to. What age? But I was mind blown. I was like, wait a second. So you're telling me biologically one day a baby can just start drinking water, but they can survive three months without water? Oh my God. Wow. They...

At six months, you can give your small baby small amounts of water. How does a baby survive six months without water? Humans don't survive, I think, more than like, what, six weeks without water? Can you Google that? How long humans... I can Google it too. Wait, I think there must be some sort of water-based formula. Infant formula. Breast milk. Is breast milk high? A human can go three days without water. Three days, but a baby can go six months? Okay, okay.

No, babies, they are hydrated off their mother's milk. I wouldn't be hydrated off a mother's milk at this age. No, no, no, no. No, you wouldn't. Because I think they must get... They needed at the beginning to have their bones strengthened. I don't know. That's a great shower thought. What's your answer to that? Well... You didn't pick that prompt. No, I did. It made me match with him. Oh, yeah. Wait, what's your answer to the prompt? Do you have that on your profile? No, I don't. Okay. No, it was...

I don't know what I think about in the shower. Usually dying. Yeah, no, I was gonna say, I don't have like, some people say their most, like their best thoughts come from the shower. Yeah, I actually have very creative thoughts in the shower. But then I don't have a piece of paper to write them down that I forget them. I don't have, oh my God, I recently realized that my AirPods were waterproof.

So I've been showering with like my AirPods in like jamming out. Oh yeah. They're waterproof. You can get them wet. I wash my hair with them in and I listen to music the entire time. And if somebody calls, I'm like answer. Boom. Headphones, podcast, shower. Wait, what series do you have?

I don't know. My dad washed his headphones and texted me. He was like, oh my God, they still work. They're waterproof. And I was like, boom. Wow. I need to try that. Yeah. You got to try it. It's like euphorical. Um, you know how I told you my astrologist told me that I'll meet my soulmate traveling like in a traveling way. Uh huh. Okay. So the weirdest thing keeps happening to me. You keep getting seated by cute boys. No, I've never sat next to a cute boy in a plane.

I keep meeting guys who don't live in New York City it's becoming a joke with me and my friends where they're like this is your this is your brand like I went on a few dates with that remember the guy I stayed up till 5 30 a.m with he doesn't even live in New York he's moving to New York eventually but he doesn't even live in New York he just is here for work all the time match with this other guy in in New York he asked me on a date tells me later on he actually lives in Connecticut oh I'm

I'm like, what is with me meeting all these money? Because you know me. I meet a guy every time we go somewhere. Yeah. In New York, every guy matching with on hinge doesn't live in Manhattan. I'm like, is this like the universe telling me that like this is actually a real thing or is it playing games with me or do I just attract people don't live in Manhattan, but it's driving me insane. Well, I think it's good to not attract people live in Manhattan because I didn't realize until last episode. I think it was Ashley. I thought the way she painted the picture of like

Guys that live in Manhattan don't really traditionally, unless they did just move there or something,

there's like 20 of the same person yeah but I want my like future boyfriend to live in the same city as me I think it's long distance I think it's very possible that he could move there like life could bring you together but I think your astrologist is right you're not gonna find him like planted in New York living there currently yeah I'm just like getting to the point where I'm like I can't one more man I'm like you need to live in Manhattan yeah but think about all the ones you dated that have lived in Manhattan that is that is there one of them that you would want to

Copy paste? No, there's not one ex of mine that I would want to copy paste. I'd rather eat my left arm than ever redate anyone.

Yeah. So I think, I think your astrologist is right. Like you could meet them. I could see you meeting somebody that lives at, let's say Nashville, for example, because we're here and he's very like fluent in his job. It's like, I can actually live anywhere. Goes to New York a couple of times and he's like, okay, I never thought about living here. I really like it. And then he moves there because like you live there, but I don't necessarily know that he's like decided to move there randomly as a single guy and then is out on the town. Yeah. It's hard meeting people who don't live in New York, like live in a different state because I feel like

With New York it's not one of those states where people are like Yeah I can live there it's like either I Will live there or I'm never living there It's one of those states it's zero or a hundred I've never met someone who's like Yeah maybe they're pretty like definite With their decision yes unless Because I did have a for income Visit and we were like walking around Like a different You think New York is Times Square And you're like I could never live there and then you Go to a Soho and I Think people are like wait a second

I could do this Or Brooklyn even Hoboken A lot of people could identify with a lot of different things Yeah New York has a place for everyone But you're sorry everyone just assumes like Oh it's Times Square And it's so expensive and I would hate it The people and it's like

You got to go. It took me honestly until recently to like love and understand where I wanted to go in New York and like walk and all of that. And I mean, that's almost two years. That's true. I know I got really lucky where I live. I absolutely love it. And I think if I was planted in a different neighborhood or borough, whatever people call it, I would not like New York as much as I do.

yeah see that's where I'm at right now too I'm like I can't leave now I'm like I love mine and I'm like I can't leave it you're gonna stay in your borough I think so what's your borough I'm just kidding tell the world say your street name I can't picture you living anywhere but your little borough no I could go to one of the neighboring ones yeah I can I know that I can walk to them all and I've like learned my streets but I'm like this is it I mean I could I could

See you being a Tribeca girly one day I would love that yeah so eliminate that I don't live there now nope that's not the one I do like Tribeca I like I'll show you I'll tell you a couple places I like um all right let's see number um what I was gonna say I have I do have something that I've just been wanting to really argue with recently okay what you know what's I'm just like really getting sick of and I actually think it's one of the most what I was just wondering like I was looking at the four hours is it going down

No, it's at 27 minutes, I believe. Yeah, it's going up. Okay. Yeah. I don't know what the four is. Nick's going to see this and be like, what the fuck? Four hours and 27 minutes. Those girls are struggling today. Talking. You know what I'm really getting sick of? Like it's to the point where next time I see it, I want to rip it out of someone's hand and throw it on the ground. Vapes. Yeah. I've had enough of vaping.

I think it's the most disgusting habit. And I'm not talking about the casual drunk vaping. Like I do it all the time. Okay. I was at the gym the other day and no, it was not at the gym. Don't worry. I was looking out the window and I see this guy. He's probably like 45 suave as can be. And yes, I'm stereotyping right now. He looked very handsome. Very, very cute. He's walking down the street. All of a sudden he whips out something. He starts to suck on it, blows it out. It's a vape. And immediately I'm like, you're disgusting.

I'm like, I can't handle vaping. I think it's the most disgusting habit in the world. And...

I mean, it's definitely triggering because I've dated people who vape, but I just like, I'm sick of it. I'm sick and tired of seeing people just suck on these things all throughout the city soberly throughout the day. Okay. And we're going to break it down a little bit. I don't want to break it down. You got to break it down. I'm with you. I, I, but I got to know what drives you so crazy about it. It's just gross looking. Okay. It's gross looking. Or do you look at it and you're like, you're harming your lungs? No, I could hear less what you do.

about the lung thing so you're literally just think it's gross looking I think it's so gross that someone can't control themselves where they can't not suck on this little plastic thing for two seconds like this person's dressed up in a suit ready to go to work and he has to suck on a vape to go or you see people with their friends they have to like quick suck on a vape at dinner it's like can you not just go five minutes without just like sucking on this little plastic toy that gives you a hit of whatever

Yeah, but I think I'm just, I have to take the other side here. Okay. I get it. I get it from a health standpoint of like, sometimes I see somebody smoking. Like I have a neighbor that, that's clearly goes outside like all throughout the night to smoke. And it, I like my heart breaks. Cause I'm like, you're so addicted. Like, I hate that. They say smoking is one of the hardest. Like, I'm just like, and I, you're inside. Like, I truly am sad about that. The vaping thing, if it's, if it's not a health thing,

I'm you know I'm paralleling it to in my head texting like can you not sit through dinner and not pull your phone out yeah easily no but I'm saying like but a lot of people can't oh and if I see people do that I'm like you're you know what it is I actually think I can't handle people have no self-control that's what I think it is I think it's more of that I don't think it's like the vape because I see guys huck loogies

all the time I'm just like grow up I'm like can you could you not yeah maybe it goes back to that maybe I'm just like on the verge of like can anyone just have some self-control and like motivation and motivation what if they got off cigarettes and got onto vaping and they're like highly motivated motivating isn't a good word um just like self-control I guess I don't know and maybe I'm triggered because of the past you guys I've um talked to seriously had tobacco nicotine

addictions but it just I'm just like see this really hot older man walking and I'm like

Oh, there's him sucking on his vape at seven in the morning. And it just grosses me out. Yeah. I don't care if you do when you're drunk, like whatever, if you just hit it here or there. But if I can't, I couldn't date someone who vapes regularly. It's a, it's an absolute no for me now. The first thing I ask people, like not first, but when I'm on dates, we buy like, we'll ask them, do you do drugs? Do you vape? I just have no tolerance for it anymore. Yeah. And I think the drugs thing is because of what it does to them. But the vaping is so fascinating because you don't care what it does to them.

Not that you should care, but I'm just trying to figure out where it's coming from. Well, yeah, because that's funny because if someone was smoking cigarettes, it would be because I was worried about what it does to them. Maybe it's because vaping, there hasn't been anything like major come out where it's like vaping is so bad for you like cigarettes or drugs. Right, like cocaine could be laced with the drug and it could kill you. Like it's like, okay, that seems bad. Like we know vaping isn't good for you, but there's nothing where it's like

That's for sure. Yeah. It's not like cigarettes where it's like you will, if you smoke, you will die. Direct link. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you're more like control yourself, please. Yeah. I don't know. It's just, it's gross. Yeah. Something's probably getting triggered to me. But when I saw him the other day, this man, I was just like, you just ruined it for me. You're like, no, you're not a, you're not a hot dad anymore. You're a gross dad. Yeah. Have you, um, okay. So I'm sweating cause I have an outfit on underneath. It's hot. I'm hot. I also have a full, I'm fully clothed underneath this for like, like the day. Yeah.

Oh my gosh. So I packed extremely light. So I, all I brought were my going out clothes. That's very smart. Actually. I support that. I mean, I'm here for like 35 hours. Yeah. And then you just want to hang out in the hotel room. Honestly, other than that, like I've been a hotel warrior this trip. I mean, my flight is at 8am on Saturday. Yeah. But you have, I mean, you have today and then tomorrow during the day. Yeah. You're making it seem like you leave tomorrow morning.

The dramatics of this. I do. I leave tomorrow morning. Okay. So I was at dinner with these people and one of them was talking about. Yeah. Okay. On Tuesday night or whatever night. And one of them was talking about how he had a guest bedroom. So he's gay. So it's like him and his husband. Right. So think like they live at the house and one of their best friends from college came over. Okay. And the guy like left and his husband actually his boyfriend's boyfriend text someone is like, um,

did you hook up with somebody while I was gone? And he was like, no, why? And he was like, because I found lube in the guest bathroom. And he was like, Oh, that's not from me. Like I had my college friend over that must be from him. And they were like, isn't that so weird? And I was like, wait, why would it be weird to like travel with lube? And then they were like, no, he put it in like a travel sized container and labeled it like lube. Like, like, you know how you can pour your larger shampoo into it. And I was like,

Well, one, he could just literally use like the lotion that's like supplied from there. But I did think at first I thought, no, it's fine that he traveled with his travel side lube. Then I thought it's quite odd that he did take the time to pour it into a travel size container. Also, why does he have lube out at his friend's place? Is he using it to jack off or was he just setting on the counter? Like I need to know, like, was this lube just set on the counter? Was it used? What I need was used. It was used.

Was there another person involved or was it just him? It was just him. So you used it to jack off? Yes. And he had to do that at his friend's... I could never masturbate at my friend's guest bedroom. The larger takeaway here is that... Wait, I never even thought about that. I just thought, I was like...

And everyone seemed to just think the oddest part was that he brought the lube like with him, like traveled on an airplane and poured it into like a travel size container. I'm literally like this out of the camera. Oh my God. Get in the camera. Sorry. Would you... Okay, so that like no. Well, I mean, yeah. If you were going somewhere and you knew you were going to have sex, wouldn't you just...

Like maybe maybe it's a lube that you can't just buy anywhere. Like maybe it's like a really nice kind. OK, so that's that's nice. Because, you know, like so many people have like all these new flavors now and like maybe maybe he's sensitive and like this one is really good with his skin or maybe his partner that he's had sex with before likes a specific lube. Like the only lubes you can buy regularly are like the cheap KY ones like CBS. Yeah. But what if it's that? And would you think that was odd?

or do you think he could like okay let me ask you this is it weird to travel with condoms no he's coming prepared maybe he doesn't have time to go to cvs i actually like it smart i don't know like travel with condoms but maybe he was like planning on having sex maybe he's hooking up with some exes while he's on this trip what if he's for sure that he's not going to that's why he brought it wait he's for sure not for sure not gonna hook up with somebody so he brought it for himself

What bothers me here is that he's masturbating in his friend's guest room. I think that is so strange. Okay, let's go there. So would you ever, and wait, why would you not? I think you ought to come a little closer. I don't know. I feel like that's someone's intimate room and it's like I wouldn't have sex in someone's guest room. Would you? No. No. I just feel like that's, it's disrespectful. Like that's their space. Yeah. Yeah, I see that. I never, ever, ever thought about that. Like,

that you would just wouldn't do that like you would do it in a hotel room fine that's a communal area so to speak i know gross on the bed but that's actually a really good point like that maybe is the largest takeaway he definitely didn't feel weird about that part though the owner of the house i feel like that's such a guy thing though they don't care about that stuff right at all but yeah that's the first thing i thought was is he jacking off at his friend's guest room

Oh the first thing I thought was So he poured it in a travel size I mean I respect that Like that's nice You like would Do you use travel size things Yeah of course I do But like Like you don't buy Small shampoo You pour your shampoo Into a smaller little Reusable I do both I buy Like little shampoos And lotions But like

like micellar water, makeup remover, I'll pour into a little travel thing. Wow. And like take it back and wash it out and like use it again. Oh my gosh. But that's also because I hate checking a bag. That's true. So I've just gotten used to it. Doing little things. Or like,

Sometimes if I'm visiting a man, which I haven't done in a long time, I'll buy like my favorite stuff in the travel side so I can feel clean and smell good still. I think that's very smart. So you can't just pack all your stuff. That'd be a whole suitcase. I know. I do pack all my stuff. I got to get the little things. Every time I get the little things, I leave them there because I'm like, yeah, but it's worth it. Like when I was seeing that one guy in Texas, I bought all of my like a packet of all my favorite things.

It was perfect. Because then I could... Because you know sometimes when you travel, if you're gone too long, if you don't have like your own stuff, you start to feel like dirty. Yes. I didn't want to feel that way, especially if I was like going to have sex with a guy. So I brought all my favorite things. You wanted to feel clean. Yeah. I like that. And also I knew that guy wouldn't have a clean shower. Or a girl's stuff in his shower. No, never. Not stocked. I had to come prepared. You had to come stacked. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Um...

What are you gonna wear to the disco cowgirl party? Oh your birthday party. We're not calling it that we're calling it just the disco cowgirl party I'm calling your birthday party. I'm having two though. So I feel weird about that too. I'm having a nascar one where chicago Oh, okay. I was like, excuse me. I didn't get invited. It's not you're telling me you're not invited to my birthday This is me. I just thought I would tell you in front of everyone I just thought I'd let it I I would never have the new york birthday party if it weren't for the intern and can I tell you?

The bane of my existence would be having somebody come over every day. I think it is the best thing that's ever happened to me. I don't know. And I mean, it's the nicest way possible how you're going to function when she leaves. No, I think I will cry. I go to her for your schedule. I needed her. Like, not even in the sense of like I needed somebody to like do this shit for me at all. Because I clearly like functioned slightly before.

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When she started, I told Graham, I was like, my biggest thing is I want her to always feel comfortable coming over. And like day two, she's like rolled inside. And I was like, oh my God, good. Because you don't want, you know when somebody comes over and they're like, I don't know where to sit. And you're like, please, when I say make yourself at home, actually make yourself at home. Because then you feel so much less stressed, like when you're hosting. And I wanted her to do that and she did it instantly. And so there was like no pressure on me. And I like loved that. But what she's cracking me up is she's 21, living in New York. She's like, I don't know.

has like these hinge dating she doesn't have a list of people she's a spreadsheet it's so funny like she went on a date the other day with this guy that wore a salmon Chino pants I don't know what that

I don't know what that is. They're like, I'll show them to you. She has a spreadsheet of all the guys she has dated or that she is currently dating. That she has gone on a hinge date with. So she can look back at the end of the summer and be like, these are all. And there's stories about them. So she doesn't forget. Wait, that's so funny. I saw, there's a TikTok where like these young girls did that. And then they like made a wall of like pictures of the guys. Like the thing. And then they went back and were like. No.

I'm like, that's so... So I have a list. I love... I know. I was like, Jordan has a list. She was like, we have a shared spreadsheet here in our roommate. And they pulled it up and I was like, no. And they were going to add headshots. And I'm like, that's so smart because you guys...

Like we moved to New York so much later. They moved there. I'm like, how did you even have the wherewithal to know you wanted to go? Yeah. And then to live in this, like the city so carefree. Well, I mean, to be very transparent though, like they're not living like a normal person. They're in like they're, they're college kids still. Like they're moving and having their parents like help them. And they're only here temporarily. Like they have to go back to school. She's staying. Yeah.

What about school? She can do her semester online. Oh, and that's what I like about her too. She's like, I knew I'd get to New York. Manifest that I did it. Like I knew I'd have a job. And then she's like, I know I will have, like I know I'll stay. I know I can pay my rent. I'm like, you go, like go girl. Yeah. I think a lot of people though, like they don't do things like, like I wouldn't be able to move to New York until I was 26. Cause I didn't have the financial means. Oh, right. Like, but, but,

You could be their age And still say like A lot of people We went to lunch Or we went to dinner with some And it's like You could still graduate college And say I'm going Like I'm moving to New York Yeah Easily At 21 or 22 I don't know where I would have lived But I could do it It'd be crazy But like you could do it Yeah And it's like I didn't even have the It wasn't even in my realm Of like thoughts Yeah

Until later in life. It was always in my thoughts, but I never thought I could do it. Yeah. Because it's scary. I didn't think I was capable of it at that. Also, I had a boyfriend that was holding me back from it. I love that she's dating, though. I love that she's dating. And I love I'm like the subway. Like there's so much stuff there that's scary at first. So she coming from.

She came from OU, but like lives in Texas, like from Houston. Still? No, I'm like, no, I think anybody, this whole, I love the interns, even the Barstool interns that come to New York. I'm like, you guys...

There's no other city in I think America that can teach you what New York can teach you in an infinite or a finite amount of time. You will grow up real fast in that city. Especially at their age. And you're not going to know anybody. You're not at home anymore where you're like, oh, hi, so-and-so. Remember on college campuses you knew so many people and then to get so far outside your comfort zone I think is like invaluable. Well, and also too like moving after college, I went back to Minnesota where I had all my friends.

I can't imagine moving to a new city fresh out of college and restarting then. Like, I don't know how I... I don't know where I would have began. I know. And they have this young, like, go-getter, but do everything. Like, I want to sit in the park and drink wine. And I'm like, that is so fun. Also, your intern... She has a name. I just don't think we want to say it out loud. We can say Amory. Okay. She's very, like, good at being... Like, she...

is on like if you say something like she's on top of it like I've told her things and she's like yep I'll make sure it's done like I've like told her things about our schedule and your stuff and she's like yep I'll do it and I'm like I actually believe you will and you will

The amount she would happen. Oh my, my dad's, my father's a present. I like wasn't there on Sunday. And so I texted her and I was like, Hey, when does the gift get in? And she was like, it's going to arrive Monday. I paid for express shipping and I know she did because I saw the receipt and she was like on the phone right now with UPS trying to get you a refund. Please tell your dad it's my fault. And I was like, okay, I voice, I I'm learning a lot too because I, I voice noted her back and I'm like, I need you to hear this cause it might not come off right over text. Um,

I don't know that you understand what you just did by falling on the sword. Like let's, we don't need to get in cahoots about the father's day present. Right. But there is a level of somebody working for you that you want them to be like, yeah, it should have been there on time. Yeah. And to have the wherewithal to not be like, Oh my God, UPS to just be like, it's not there. It's my bad. Yeah. And it's like, and you did pay for the right amount of shipping. And it's like somebody just taking, like, I think we see this a lot, people that don't work hard. So when somebody does, you're like, um,

People taking responsibility for their actions. So hard to find someone working hard. So hard to find. Like I have such bad trust issues. Yes. Like it will take me months before I, before I can hand you over a task and think you're just going to do it. Well, and to, and to know it's so much easier to,

There's so many like things I give her and I'm like, it's just easier to not do that. It's a little harder to do it. Yeah. And it's just like every time just being like, no, my name's on that. I'm doing it. Yeah. She's been great. She's been great. Is she going to stay your intern throughout the rest of the school? I was going to say college year, school year?

Discuss it. Okay. I hope. I think you might just need like a little bit of a personal assistant and just in life in general. I just love her. It's just been really nice for me to have someone that I can text when I need you to know when something is. She's just great at that. I know. Literally. She's like responding to emails and like things are arriving. She's like, you got these flowers. I'm like, from who? And she's like, this hair care company. And I'm like, huh? Where did that come from? Stick your email. And I'm like, nice. Nice.

So yeah I love that I love her But back to Your birthday Oh yeah Oh yeah What are you doing In Chicago Since I can't go I need to know NASCAR cowgirl party Okay so you're having Friends from home School like Just my brother And his girlfriend And my friend Nugget Are they all coming To Chicago then Would that be fun Well my brother was like I He's like I don't know What's going on With this NASCAR thing But like you clearly love it What are you doing For your 30th And I was like I'm going to the NASCAR race And he's like

And I was like, do you want to come? And he was like, I would love to see what's going on. And he's got friends that live in Chicago. So it like worked out perfectly, but I'm glad that he gets to have a little taste of my love. I love that. Are you guys going to be there over the 4th too? No, I don't know where I'm going for the 4th. Okay. Where are you going for the 4th? I'll be in the shore. That's why I can't go to NASCAR. Oh, that's right. You're going to, I forget you're going to the shore. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. The world's kind of my oyster from Chicago. And let me tell you what, it's only until July 11th. It's it's, there's a gap I can get to Mykonos. I'm looking at it. No, literally the other day,

I don't remember exactly how the conversation went, but Barstool gives us one week off. One week where we actually don't have to work. It's 4th of July week. I don't know why we get that week off, but we do.

Most patriotic company ever. And we are double recording, obviously, the week before the 4th. So our producer does not work because he does not have to work on a company holiday. Correct. We'll obviously still do things, but we don't have to record an episode. And Alex was like, so does that mean I can flee X, Y, and Z dates? And I go, no.

I was like, you were like, can I flee the 28th through like the 16th? And I go, you can't be the 28th because your birthday party is the 28th. And no, you have to be back the 11th because we have to record on the 12th. So you're telling me I can leave New York all of July. I have identity theft. I checked my credit score because I want to open up this credit card. And I was like, let me just check my credit score. It should be fine. Why are you so calm? Well, I've, I've, I've filed a couple appeals and,

somebody when I was when I was seven years old opened up a city card and yeah I owe like three grand on it and so my score is like a C okay I have a few questions what one do you know this person is no two why did nobody tell you like don't you think your bank should have contacted you been like you owe three grand but it's not my bank shouldn't your financial guy be like you have a shitty credit score

Yeah, I do think somebody could have told me. No, they definitely... My financial person has told me that. Do you have a bad credit score? No, I have a... Oh, I was like, you probably have a perfect credit score. I do have a perfect credit score. No, they keep... I remember when I went out with them, they checked it immediately. And they check it to make sure I'm paying and stuff. And my accountant, too. Yeah, I don't know. I have a bad one. I have a bone to pick with somebody on your side of the household. I know. I was like...

I got on like credit Google credit score dot com and then like I was on it and I was like oh no. Wait so what does that mean? I don't know. I submitted an appeal. It got actually declined. So then I submitted another one. It's just not me. I'm like I don't even know how to lot like I was seven years old. Shouldn't they have flagged that like how the hell is a seven year old. Well this guy who this girl or guy that's that has

That has access to the card. It's odd. Sometimes they're like paying off parts of it and things like that. It's active. It's highly active. It's not me. Obviously, it's not me. I'm sorry. That's like very stressful. Yeah. I was like, okay, that's not going to affect your Mykonos trip, is it? Well, no, but I would be nice to fix that before my Mykonos trip. You've been talking about you're up for...

months you need to go i think i'm gonna go in the fall you gotta scratch the itch when you get it i know i think i'm gonna i think i'm gonna go in the fall i i have this like weird you know how you told me you have this weird feeling you're gonna go in the summer i have this weird feeling i'm gonna go in like october when like where would you go um i would go to italy greece um

What were the five? I had five. It was, well, it was, uh, Positano's, Mykonos or San Trini. Um, I, I feel like I would kind of have to like London, um, South of France. And I don't know what the fifth one was. I just really want to go to Greece, Italy and, um, South of France. I was going to say one or Tuscany. So I was like, St. Tropez, I'm going to South of France. Like I was like, I know that's where it at. So I started planning it. That's, oh, that's France. South of France. Yeah. Um, Spain. That was the other one.

Barcelona. Yeah, that's the best one right there. I started doing the whole Saint-Tropez thing and I was like planning it and I was like, this isn't for me. So I was like, no. So then I was like, well, where else do I go? So Croatia was overwhelming to look at. So then I was like, okay, I'll look at Greece. And I think you would love Santorini and the vineyards. But I was like, it sounds like I'm a Mykonos girl. Wait, not that anyone listening cares, but now I have a question. So...

Santorini is more vineyards versus Mykonos? Yeah, so Mykonos is a little bit more, it seemed like, clubby vineyards.

I'm not going to say party-ish, but more like you basically get hotels, beach, the local area, shopping, and clubs. Santorini, I think the best way is you do them both, right? You can do the best of both worlds. Santorini was like, they called it the romantic city. There's vineyards. Exactly. I was like, you would love Santorini. And then San Tropez, that was too vineyard-y for you too? No, there was no vineyards there. It was just very like...

What else are we going to do here? Okay. Okay. I'm glad you said that because I think I'm more of a Santorini girl then. I think you would love it. Um, question. Do you like for a listener question? Um, okay. You can read it because I can't read. Oh, okay. Listener question. Breakdown dating a sober guy. Love the pod. Three years in trying to date women who drink a good amount and will be curious your take on the concept of dating a sober guy.

Which is great because obviously you're married to a sober man. Married to a sober guy. And I think Graham is uniquely sober because when we met he was not and now he is. And we actually touched base on this the other day because he was out with a group of friends. He went back home to San Diego and he, which is where he went to college, and he was with a guy that he hadn't seen in a long time and he brought friends and they all went out to dinner on Friday night. And the guy ordered like a round of shots and like puts one in front of Graham. He's like, you're going to love it. And Graham's like, oh my God, I haven't drank in four years.

And he said the table was kind of like, oh, and Graham was like that. It's so funny because most 95% of the time being sober has only pros, but he was like, my biggest fear around it is telling someone and it killing the mood.

Yeah. And then being like, oh, like now I can't have fun. And so I never thought about it from that. Like, I think I was so quick to always push optimism on him. Like, yeah, but imagine how you feel the next bottle. And he's like, right. But I still hate that moment. It's sad that we have that stereotype around people. If you don't drink, you're just boring or awkward.

You know what I mean? Yeah. It took me or buzzkill a buzzkill. You're automatically a buzzkill or goody two shoes or like, Oh, some people even go as far as like, Oh, that guy doesn't drink. Yeah. And it's like, let me tell you, you can hardly even start to imagine most the time why someone doesn't drink. Right. So I, I think for a guy that's, that's going on dates with girls that drink a good amount. Well, I think the first question is, does he care? Cause there are some people that don't want to be around it. And there's some people that don't care.

Yeah. So like, uh,

So the curious on your take... I can't read. Curious... Wait. Would be curious on your take of the concept of dating a sober guy. So I will be very honest. You've always said this. I could never date a sober guy. I even had a friend actually a few weeks ago. She showed me this like a very attractive man. She was like, he is your type 2T. He is so hot. I was like, this man is so hot. But she goes, I just want to let you know he is sober. And I was like...

I have to pass. I'm sorry. And it's not to the point where I can't control my alcohol or I need a drink to have fun. It's just I appreciate wine. I love wine. I need my... If I could even date a guy who hated wine. And I also love the idea of

to a nice restaurant and enjoying cocktails together. I'm never one to drink alone. I never will drink alone. I don't drink alone. And I just know myself and I wouldn't be able to do that. And it's nothing against people who are sober. I'm not saying I need alcohol in any way, shape or form. This isn't like, I don't want people to like, like come for me. This is just how I feel. And unfortunately, like I could never date a sober guy just because I value so many fun experiences that you can do with fun cocktails and wine and this or that.

And I don't think, okay, you saying you would never date a sober guy. I don't even think you need to back it up because sometimes we'll go out with people or I'll meet a girl and I'm like, what's your type? And she's like, he's got to be Jewish. And it's like, okay, you know that that's like a massive value for you. Yeah. Fine. Somebody might be like, listen, if he's not a voracious reader, like he's just not going to be my guy. Maybe you'll be proved wrong one day. I have no idea.

Yeah. But I think with this guy, I have so many girlfriends that'll have like a glass of wine or two and then like they're good. Yes. Equally, I've got a bunch of friends that are like, let's go out tonight. Like I'm really craving a fun time. That might not be his girl, but he might be the, he doesn't need, maybe he doesn't need a sober girl, but like he could do a girl that's like, you know,

yeah I like to drink on occasion like if you don't care that'd be great yeah and I have so many friends who are so content with dating a sober guy and like I could even date someone who's like I don't like to drink that much but I'll have a nice glass of wine here there it's just I don't know for me as part of your life is fun yeah that's I think that's I think that that's

Okay, maybe he could somehow... Like, I'm wondering if these girls are having a problem with him not drinking or if he's having a problem with them drinking too much. But I'm... Okay, I did just get, like, secondhand anxious thinking about this. Walking into the date to sit down on a Friday night and she's like, what do you like to drink? You know, like, I'm gonna have a margarita. So...

He's like, I don't drink. And then it's buzzkill. Well, one time one of my friends went on a date with this guy. She didn't know he was sober, which I think you should be very upfront. If you're like on a dating app, you need to let them know that you don't drink. And she didn't know they went on the date. He's like, I don't drink. She's like, that's fine. Do you care if I get a drink? He's like, oh my God, please get a drink. Which I also think is if you are sober, you have to be okay going on dates. People who drink, if you aren't open about it. Yeah. So he's like, yeah, I have a drink. And she had like,

three or four drinks because obviously when you're in first date you're nervous and she thought the day went so well she never heard from him again and now she thinks like maybe i was just like a train wreck i had four drinks he was sober i can't imagine being around someone having four drinks so like she was like i can see it being very obnoxious for a guy who doesn't drink to go out with girls who are just like oh my god yeah like but you know how we get when we have four drinks in us so

So I can see it on both sides. I could never date someone who drinks a lot if I was sober. No, no, no. And I think it's good to know that.

Like, okay, being married to a sober guy, I'll say there's more, there's a ton of pros. He always knows what happened. He can always take care of you like any hour of the night if anybody calls him. He knows what's going on. He's got wherewithal. They say, like I did read a lot about it and the further you get away from it, the more your brain, like even after you've had one glass of wine, your brain chemistry changes, right? So when you stop doing that, that's really healthy for some brains, right? Yeah.

And then I think about, so that's all the pros. Then I think about being at dinner and you're not drinking. And let's say I had three glasses of wine. We're on, simply put, factually put, our brains are now firing differently. If yours is always firing from a place of not, what's the word? Not uninhibited.

Not altered by anything. And then I've had three glasses of wine. I do sometimes think the next morning, he's like, okay. And I remember, of course I remember everything I said. But he's like, did you mean that? And sometimes you don't always mean what you said after three glasses of wine. So I do think that could get a little bit like...

Yeah. You do. Cause then, because then if you're dating somebody that also is having bottle of wine, bottle of wine, then you're both like, okay, how fun. We're both having a bottle of wine. But if you remove that from it, you do. I think it's healthy that you think about that. Cause that's thing about that. He's always sober. And you all, the speed of the relationship will go at different paces for both of you. Because if,

If I feel like for me, at least when I've dated guys and we're drinking, the relationship tends to speed up because like you get more comfortable with each other. You get intimate sooner, physical, all that stuff. But if he's sober and she's not like he might be here and she might be here thinking like this is how this is how serious it is. But he might be like, no, no, no, I don't.

really when we've been going on dates we aren't like getting deep at all but in her mind she's like we're having the most like the great conversation we're so deep and like we've been like all this stuff so i feel like the speed of the relationship could go at different paces for both of them that's very i think that's like very true i mean think about the guy went on date with till 5 30 a.m if we were sober that never would have happened but since we did i feel i feel

feel like, which I probably don't, but I feel like I know I'm 10 times better now. Yeah. You feel like you bonded. Yeah. As opposed to, let's say you went on three coffee dates in the morning. You really bonded probably with that person actually more, but we think like you love a night out. You have those friends you love a night out with. Yeah. I do think this too, though it's different. Cause I didn't start dating Graham.

He was drinking. But like imagine your first hookup or something and you're both sober or you're both drunk. Like if you're both drunk, you're like, let's just we're spoiled sometimes as humans because you don't have to feel that anxiety if you have been drinking a little. But if you haven't in one hat, I mean, imagine that that's hard, too. Yeah. So I guess the biggest thing with him is I'm curious if he's having a problem with girls drinking too much or if the girls are having a problem with him not drinking.

I think he could okay I think if if the girls are having a problem with him I think if he really feels this he could come at it from a place of like okay I don't drink you're gonna have a blast tonight we're gonna go out and just to let you know to like one date we are gonna do like a coffee date or like I'm gonna take you to do something kind of from my world yeah and then I'm gonna come into yours all the time too and like I'm gonna learn your favorite drinks and you know like I think he could make I hate this I hate this

But I think Graham feels it too. The sober person has to carry the burden of making the person that drinks feel comfortable. And I don't know why that is. And I really don't,

Like that. But now that you and I both know somebody that doesn't drink like Graham, right? If we encountered a person at the table that doesn't drink, I'll always say why or how long? That's actually so true because I've all, we've all had friends who do like sober September, dry January or whatever. And I know when I go out with them, I'm always kind of like, are they having fun? Are they having fun? Right. Are they, are they, are they getting away with us? Cause we're all drunk and they're not. Are they having fun? That's so true. And Graham says this all the time. If he's at a table with people and he's like, Oh no, thank you. I don't drink.

people are kind of like awkward. And he's like, I would love it if somebody was like, what's your story with that? Or have you always not? Yeah. And why are people so like, I'm a nosy Nora and I will always ask, but like so many people are like, well, I don't want to intrude. It's like, just ask if they don't want to tell you, they'll say, I don't want to tell you. Yeah. Or like that's personal. Some people are proud of their story. Yes. And they want, and they want to share it. Yeah. Yeah. That's hard. I feel like he just has to make sure he's very open. And like, he needs to know that there are girls out there that,

don't want to drink or don't drink. There's somebody for everyone out there. Well, and I think he's unique. I think he'll find the perfect... I think he's got a better shot at finding Miss Perfect with this little additive because he'll figure out really quickly who's like, that is so... Maybe he goes on a date with somebody. My dad doesn't drink. Yeah. You know? Like, I think that is so cool. Or I actually don't like to drink. I just always felt pressured to. It's so great that you don't. Now I don't feel pressured to drink anymore. Yes. Yes.

I've always wanted to know. I mean, like, I think that there's more silver linings that come out of this than not. So stick with it. My guess is maybe he should start trying to date different types of girls. Maybe he's like sticking with the same type. I mean, like we all have a type. Sometimes that type is not good for us. He's got like a little additive thing where he could mix it up. Yeah. I like that. I think he has an exciting road ahead of him. Yeah. Good. It's a good, it's a good thing. Yeah. If you're listening, keep dating and maybe just pick like date just different types of people and be open about it in the get go. I think we should.

It's me today. I'll tell him. I'm going to DM him back and be like, hey, we talked about it. Yeah. Because I'm excited for him. Okay. Like, comment, subscribe. Do what you do best. Sorry. Start over. Go. AB, do what you do best. Like, comment, subscribe. Follow us on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, Snapchat, Facebook. And leave us a five-star review. And make sure to watch us on YouTube so you can see all our hand talking. And the thing at the beginning. And me probably not even half of the class.

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