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EP.65 - DREAM SYMBOLISMS, THE RAT KING THEORY, & HOW LOVE CAN KILL

2022/2/13
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Gavin recounts a vivid dream where he experiences a high-definition, emotional journey with friends, culminating in a near-death experience with a bus driver.

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What's this story? Okay, yo, no, no, it's crazy. Because this is the first time... Like, I don't remember a lot of my dreams I had. Yeah. But this one was like 4K HD, right? And I was looking at my friends and shit in... Like, there were certain friends that I met that kind of contributed to the story, right?

Okay. So this is all in a dream. This is all in a dream. And this was right before we were about to record. No, no, this was right before something really bad happened to like the day after with you. Okay. So listen, listen, listen. Yeah. So I'm gonna give you the backstory. So before I had this dream, I was going through a lot of shit, right? I was, I was lazy. I was, um, my, my routine was so shit. Like I was sleeping at like 4am waking up at like 2pm, right? Not doing shit. So I had this dream, right? And I,

I only remembered the end of it. Okay. Okay. So it was me, one of my really, really close friends and his close friend, right. Yeah. In a bus with a bus driver with a gun. Oh shit. Right. So I don't know how we ended up in that position. Right. But the whole stream was the bus driver, uh,

kidnapped us and he was gonna kill us one by one right so so he called me up first right yeah and i was i was in my dream crying we were all crying so before i went up to him i went up and looked my friend and i one of my closest friend i said here i wrote it down you you remember the whole book yeah yeah so i wrote it down it's a full feature film fam i dapped him up and i said i'm gonna see you in my next life so don't worry

Okay, okay, yeah. So, boom. That one is my really close friend. And I always say that I was supposed to meet him in this life. So, I go to the next one. I don't really know him that much. So, we just dapped up and hugged. Yeah, yeah. And we were just crying, crying. So, I laid my head on the bus driver's lap. And he had the gun to my head. Right? And at that point, I usually wake up because I'm about to die. Yeah. But this one, I was like, why the fuck am I not waking up? Like, I'm about to die. Yeah. And I'm waiting, I'm waiting. You hear the click? It's over.

White. Oh, shit. And usually, after the gun click, you wake up. Yeah. I was two minutes pure white. Whoa. What the fuck? And I was like...

Is this the afterlife? Like I'm not waking up from this dream. You went to like purgatory. Exactly. Yeah. Cause I'm like, what is this white? And then boom, after five minutes of white, I find wake up 4am in the morning. I'm like, what the fuck? Oh, you wake up after the whiteness? Yeah. It's like, it's like I, I, I got out of like some, I was supposed to die, but then I woke up out of it. Damn.

Damn. So you could have died in your sleep. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yo. I know. It felt so real. Like the gun to my head, it felt so real. Yeah. And now this is the crazy part because I thought that was an omen that something bad was going to happen to me. And the day...

We went to Mr. Beast Burger Mr. Beast Burger Mr. Beast Burger right Here it is It started snowing like crazy The roads were shit right I dropped you off I dropped Josh off Me and John Were going down this hill A car was turning left

I couldn't break. Oh, like the break was getting jammed. Yeah. The funny shit is, John is like the most, uh, nonchalant. So, so, so we're gonna crash. Yeah, yeah. And he goes, oh no, this is a crash. Yo, that's John, that's John, bro. I'm like, what the fuck? Like, you're not telling me to swerve, no, nothing. He's like, oh, this is a crash. I'm like,

No, that's exactly how he did react, bro. But then, yeah, but that happened. But I swerved last minute. Oh. Like, I swerved. The brake was not working. It was one of those ones where it's like, like the brake. You had to pump it. You had to pump it. Yeah, I had to pump it. Damn. And I was like, fuck, was that an omen that I was going to die that day? That's fucked.

Oh shit. Cause it happened. It happened just the day after. Yeah. So you think, did you have the same feelings? I know sometimes when you have a dream, you have a similar feeling in the dream to in real life. Just like when people predict things, they have like, not necessarily the whole setting, but the sense you have. You know what I mean? Like the gut, the gut feeling. I had a gut feeling. You had that same thing? That's why when you asked me, let's go out. And when it started snowing, I got worried.

Because I don't want to be driving on these roads right now. Damn. But do you think you start to manifest things like that? Because you could manifest bad shit too. I know. That's why. And that's why I searched it up. If I had a dream of me dying, what does that mean? Because I thought it was me, an omen of dying. But no, it's actually all your bad habits. You die with all those bad habits and your new person comes out.

And remember I told you that I was having a bad routine, bad everything. Yeah. Just before I had that dream, I was getting good. I wasn't getting lazy. I was editing TikToks in advance. You know? No, that's true. That's true. And I think that's always what it is. Whenever you have like a death, there's always an outcome. There's always an outcome. Right? There's always a silver lining to it. Because death to one life equals...

A new life becoming, right? And there's this really, really deep quote. I forgot who said it. It was someone like super wise. They said, no matter what, whether it's like a breakup, whether it's like a death in the family, something crazy that affects your whole life, there's always...

If you want to become someone else, you have to destroy the buildings that once were if you want to build an excellent. And that's so true because you can't have room for everything else if you want to start a new one. You got to let go of that baggage because like, okay, say one of the things that you don't do in a new relationship is bring up your ex. If you're always bringing up your ex, that new person is not going to like you. You haven't moved on from that person yet. No, that's fact. You should never bring up your ex.

Who the fuck brings up past relationships in a relationship you're in right now? A lot of people do, actually. Who does that? A lot of people do. But why? Why do you think that is? Because they still have that feeling. Like, especially the first. Yeah. I always say, like, you will never forget your first. How shit it was, how bad memories it was. You will always remember that one. Yeah, I guess. I guess. And maybe that's why you bring it up. Because it's so memorable and you just always have it in your head. Mm.

But I think you can move past pretty easily once you have someone new, I think. Yeah, exactly. But don't you forget shit right away? I think I forget shit right away. Forget shit right away. I forget bad shit right away. Honestly, yo, sometimes people will ask me, yo, do you remember that terrible thing that happened way long time ago? And then I think to myself...

nah, did we ever even do that shit? Yeah. And like, yeah, you were there. Like, I think I deleted that whole memory in my head just because it was bad. Mm.

So I delete my bad memories, bro. No, I only remember the embarrassing ones. Like, I could, like, in, like, JK or SK, I can bring up a time where I was embarrassed. Yo, okay, okay, I can agree with you there. But listen, listen. So I used to remember embarrassing shit from when I was in, like, really, really young ages. Elementary school, JK, whatever. And, bro, any time, I remember the Spongebob episode. You know where they're, like, burning the files and shit? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Where's the file? Where's the file?

So in my own head, I imagine, I kind of manifest it where I'm taking pieces of my memory in files and locking up in a safe. And right as I think about that, that memory gets locked away forever and I don't access it no more. Deadass. I'm not even making that shit up. Like, I actually don't remember it. If I really want to forget something, I really try really, really hard. What?

I swear to God, I swear. Really? Yeah. That's such a visual thing to do. Like, remember how you were telling me that you see the apples in math? And that, your mind works so weird. No, it's all visual. Just like conversations, you said it's like... It's a roadmap. It's a roadmap, yeah. It's fucking weird. I think that's just how it is, bro. That's just how it is. But going back to, going back to like, I guess regrets or thinking of past things, right? So,

So there was this, there's this site I was recently on. Oh no. So, so I saw this TikTok. It's called, what's it called again? It's called the... Unsent Project? The Unsent Project. It's called the Unsent Project. So what it is, it's pretty much...

Unsent text messages That were supposed to go to you Allegedly That's crazy Allegedly How do you even How does How do you even do that? Like So pretty much what it is It's almost like a Ask.fm So there's a There's a sense of Anonymous Mmm

Right? So you don't know who that person is. You don't, I mean, you don't know who sent that message. Okay. So I was looking at it, right? I was looking at it. Okay. You put your name in and I think what it is, it's just to everybody that's named Carlos, Carlos, right? So I searched up my name, Carlos. Okay.

I'm scrolling through there's some crazy shit in here. Like I was in love with you earlier this year. You had no idea like that There's some crazy shit here. Yeah, I want you so bad, but you never even answer my phone anymore Like there's some crazy shit, but i'm thinking most of this shit isn't towards me. It's towards another carlos Yeah, but then but then listen cut this part out, but like cut out the name. Okay, but they said Name fam. Oh, look look

So I'm like, I'm thinking, bro, maybe that one went to me or it was supposed to go to me. And then read this next one. This one kind of fucked me up because I'm like, nah, this one definitely went to me. Listen, whenever I see Cowboy Bebop, I remember you. Nah. I'm like, yo. Nah. That has to be towards me. And then look, and I see this one. You never sit right on your chair, but it's okay. Wait.

Okay, that one? That one might be. That one maybe. That one's maybe. That one's maybe. Because I do never say right or left here. That's so flagged. Wait, can you put... Is it only your first name or is it your last name too? I think it's just your first name. I'm pretty sure it's just your first name. You want to try? Let's try it right now. Let's try it right now. I'll put in Gavin. Someone is funny. The fact I want to kiss you right now. What? My mouth falls off. Why are there so much romantic ones towards you?

I have no idea. Maybe coloses are just menaces. But a lot of them are fucking... Look, are we drifting apart? What made you feel like there's some sad shit in here, bro? But if you think about it, all of these messages would come from people that have regrets or at least have...

Shit they want to get off their chest. You know what I mean? Anytime you had like a crush or somebody you really loved and never told them, it would probably go down there. Because you can't leave that shit inside. That shit will kill you. So is this only from Instagram or like actual messages? No, this is just...

This is like you write messages. I think it's like a forum. I think. Oh, okay. Because I was like, how are they collecting a database from all the Instagram unsent messages? I don't know if it's Instagram. Yeah. I don't know if it's Instagram or I don't even know if it's like text messages or whatever. Allegedly, it's text messages. That's what they're saying. That's fucking crazy. Okay, let's search up Gavin. Okay, man. There's going to be like a whole bunch of... Let's see. Let's see. I need a love letter. I love you, brother. I love your brother. I love your brother.

I love your brother. That's not me. I love you, but you don't know how to tell you. I don't know how to tell you. Whoa, Gav. That's my nickname.

Thank you for coming into my life. Love you so much, idiot. See, these are all like some sappy shit, you know? Yeah, I miss what we had. That's definitely my ex. No, there's a lot. There's hella. There's hella. Stop playing Apex and text me back. Okay, nah, I don't play Apex. See, most of it is like...

Unhash love. Yeah. Type of thing, right? And that's crazy to me because it just goes to show how many different storylines there are in the world, bro. Yeah. Wattpad story. Yeah. Have you ever had Wattpad? I never, I never used Wattpad. I never had Wattpad, but this girl was telling me like her whole life is based on a Wattpad story. Like how they met. What is a Wattpad again? So it's like a love story that is so crazy that it just ended up being real. Oh.

There's one that I read that my friend sent me. There was a guy and a girl, right? And every day before work, they always took the wrong exit. And one day, the girl let down her window and the guy was staring at her and they gave her a little nod. And then boom, they're like, oh, you want to get coffee? Boom, now they're married. That's a Wattpad story.

So it's like sappy like the blog type of thing. Yeah, like that's what it is. Like fate type shit. Okay. Okay. Okay. I heard this theory though that love, unhashed love or love that eats you up on the inside can actually kill you. Oh, yeah. I heard about that too. So I think love like it affects your actual heart. So that's why in every single symbolism of love, Valentine's or whatever, they always show the heart. B.

Because love indirectly, directly affects your heart, your heart health. It will affect the way you breathe. If you think about it, anytime you see someone you love, you get a little bit of, I guess, anxiety or excitement. Yeah, the butterflies. Yeah, that would change your breathing pattern or even your blood pressure. Maybe like you skip a beat, whatever, right? So, bro, a really, really bad heartbreak could kill somebody. How though?

I don't know. I think just emotional damage. Yeah, just straight emotional damage. Maybe even just the willingness to live. Yeah. No, that's facts, bro. Like for people out there, if you ever got this, if you ever got heartbroken, you can't like, you can't eat. Because when I got my heart broken, fam, I was trying to eat. Really? But I lost my appetite, bro. Damn. I couldn't eat. I think it's the opposite for some people though. Because some people eat hella. Oh yeah, like the ice creams. To feel better, to feel better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The ice creams. Mmm.

Yo, so I bring it back. I take this kind of idea and I take it to Attack on Titan. Do you watch Attack on Titan? No, no, I don't. So there's this one scene where this guy, I don't want to spoil anything. Yeah. But this guy, he kind of lost the willingness to live. Right? Oh, shit. And he wasn't able to transform into his Titan. Yeah. And I think that's such a deep, that's kind of like a metaphor you can use in everyday life. Real life. Like you can't be, you can't be the superhero you are. Mm-hmm.

If you have those feelings like deep down that you haven't hashed out. Yeah. Right. You agree. Do you think, do you think something like that, whether it be like a heartbreak, whether it be, um, the willingness to, to move on can affect how you flourish as a person. How though? Give me like, give me another example. Let's say somebody is a super, super confident person.

guys they just lose it you're saying or even let's look at Kyrie Irving when what's her name Kehlani cheated on him and he did shit right but then but he did come back so I guess it's just that little push cause there's always like what do you call this

The hill. Yeah. That you just need to get over. And if you get over the hill, you're blessed for life. Yo, yo. I've seen this funny ass... I've seen this funny ass video. So, there's this crazy win in UFC history. Okay, okay. Where George St. Pierre, he was getting backlash because they thought George St. Pierre was cheating. Yeah. Right? And then George St. Pierre, he came out with a video. Yeah. And he's like, okay, guys, I have to tell you, I was cheating. Yeah. And then he explained how he started cheating. He explained, right? Yeah. He said...

I actually, I hired, I hired somebody to kiss BJ Penn on the lips. That's too much. Right when he was walking into the octagon. And there's a video. No, that's too much. There's a video of BJ Penn's like walking in, like, you know, the walkout. He's walking in and then there's like a random guy that like kisses him on the cheek. Nah, that's too much, bro. And then GSP's like, at exactly that moment, he lost all of his willingness. Nah.

All of his will to win. All of his strength. Nah, that's fucking weird. You know what that reminds me of? You know the cheater? The how to catch a cheater? How to catch a cheater? Which one? When a guy or a girl hires another guy to go flirt with their significant other in the store. Oh, that's so dumb though. That shit is so dumb. You have to be so insecure in your relationship to do that. I don't know why girls and guys do that. Yeah. Why they hire another guy or girl in the first place just to go out their way to hey. To test it. To test it. Yeah, like what the fuck?

I think if you have to do that, that's already a deaded relationship. No trust there. But going back to what you said, like how you have to get over that hill and stuff and how you have to flourish type shit. Yeah. So like one of my friends, he owns a shoe store, right? And I always ask like these local businesses why they start. Why? Like what's their motivation? And it's always heartbreak or they didn't have money. It's either the two. Oh.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because like what you were saying, how you have to have a willingness to live, right? Remember in the group chat when I went through the heartbreak, I was like, guys, I don't know what the fuck to do, man. And then you were telling me like the number one thing, right? The number one advice to get over heartbreak, Carlos told me, is just if you can be okay with that your girl is fucking another guy, you're golden. And I took that. So true. I didn't want to hear that, right? But Carlos told me that and I took that shit to heart. And that's when I couldn't eat.

No, but it's, that's what, you have to face that reality. Cause if you don't face the reality of the really, really, really bad, then you're never going to get over it. Cause you're going to think everything sunshine, rainbows, like a, like a rom-com. That ain't life, bro. Your life ain't a rom- maybe, maybe by luck it could be.

But more times, your life ain't a rom-com. No, exactly. And that's what I can... I go off that. That motivates me too because what happened after I got heartbroken? I was designing. I was doing the stuff I love. Now, boom, look what happened. Yeah. Yeah, I think even arts,

whenever it becomes like into the actual canvas onto a movie onto like a piece of music that's where you hear the stories come out from bro it's from J. Cole getting his girl pregnant and then wanting to get an abortion that type of story in his song yeah

That's probably from real emotion. Nobody just raps about that shit for just cause. Real shit. Like you, it's so easy. It's so easy to rap about clothes you don't have, chains you don't have, grills, money you don't have. Yeah. But it's harder to rap about shit that actually affects you emotionally. Yeah. That's, no, that's real shit. Did you, did you hear about the artist that is only an artist in his sleep?

Who? Who's this? You didn't know this? Okay, I'm going to tell you this. So there's a theory that you're actually smarter in your sleep than when you're awake. No, how? Okay, so there's a video on Infographic, right? Yeah. And there's a guy that proves this, that you can have some special abilities while you're deep in sleep. Okay. So there's a guy called Lee Hadwin, right? Yeah. And during his sleep, he creates like Mona Lisa masterpieces. Oh, shit. But when he wakes up, he has no creative talent at all. What the fuck?

Yeah. So he just loses everything? Yeah, exactly. So he's like, is he sleepwalking? Yeah, so he has a habit of sleepwalking, right? Yeah. So there's a sleep specialist that tested him, right? So they put, before he went to bed, he put a bunch of blank canvases around his bed and art supplies. Yeah. When he woke up, there was a body of painting already there. Damn.

yeah and this is the crazy shit too because he like uh when he's awake yeah again no creative ability his highest mark in the art class was a d oh shit yo i'm pretty sure there's a there's a famous pope yeah a lot of the the church hymns came from him in his sleep like he would just be humming and he would set like a tape recorder to get his humming yeah so that's how they made all of the songs it's just

Like in his bed, bro. This guy was caged. Holy Lord.

You know there's an app for that? Is there? Yeah, so I wanted to download the app too, but low-key, like, there's some creepy shit that on TikTok of people, like, saying stuff that... Oh, it records you whenever you hear something, right? Oh, my God. I don't want to hear that shit. I don't want to hear that shit either. What if it catches something that's not your voice? It's like, Carlos, wake up. Some next fuck, like, demon.

Nah. Wait, have you ever woken up at the middle of the night just randomly? All the time. All the time. You know what I found out too? When you randomly wake up, it's our body... Like our body gets a sense of somebody staring at us. That's why we woke up. Did you know that? Is that why? Yeah. Oh, shit. Or like you have a sense of someone staring at you. That's why I'm like, what the fuck? I think it has a lot to do with anxiety though. Yeah. I think that's why I always wake up. Just because it's the...

Anytime I set an alarm in the morning, I wake up before the alarm. So I have like an automatic body clock that I can set up myself. So I'll set up the alarm for let's say 1030. I'll wake up at like 930. I'm like, bro, how did I wake up early so easily? I have those too. And I think it's just your mind already knowing what time it is outside of your body. Do you think that's possible? No, that is. That's why we wake up like on a stop right before we get off, right? Really? Really?

Yeah. So your body has a sense of like outside when you're asleep? A hundred percent. Damn. Interesting. Cause you know, I never got like, why, why do I sleep on a public transit? Like it's very dangerous, you know? Oh. And there's a thing called, um, um, the first night effect. What is that? So it's like your body, uh, when you're in new like environments and you're trying to sleep, you don't sleep that well because your, your brain is trying to protect you from what?

So just because you're in a new environment, so there's new dangers around you. Oh, so anytime you go to like a hotel room and shit? I was going to say, because one time I couldn't sleep at like, when I was a kid, Great Wolf Lodge. Why? Because I thought like those animatronics at the front would come and get me in my sleep. That's why it's the first night I couldn't sleep at all. You're scared of animatronics outside Friday night? I was so scared at five nights. That's one of my like deepest fears, fam.

Why? I don't know. It's like clowns. Are you actually scared? Are you scared of like mascots? Mascots? Because you're scared of clowns and you're scared of animatronics. Are you scared of mascots? Yeah, when I was a kid. Okay. Not right now? Not right now. I can push it off. Let's test that. There's like a mascot behind me. That would be crazy. That would be crazy. Comes out the washroom.

No, but going back to feeling like a heartbreak and shit. Okay. Or feeling something in your heart. I heard this. This was on Discovery Channel when I was a kid. Okay. Do you remember this? There was somebody that had a heart transplant. And when they got their heart transplant, they were able to speak like six different languages. Yeah, I remember this.

They were like vegan all of a sudden. Yeah. They wanted to go exercise all the time. And before then, they had nothing to do with that. But it was just the fact that they had somebody else's heart in them. Yeah. Because on that recess, everyone is asking the question, if you had anyone's heart, who would you replace it with? Oh, I remember those talks though. I remember those talks. Okay, who would you replace it with? Anybody's heart? Yeah. Damn. Okay, like somebody I know personally? Yeah. No, no. It could be a celebrity. It could be anyone's. Probably just someone...

Somebody that's healthy, bro. Somebody that likes eating carrots all the time and shit. To live longer? Yeah. Now, anybody that doesn't have high blood pressure or something like that. Yeah, that's true. That's what I try to avoid. Yeah, that's fair. You ever watch I Want to Eat Your Pancreas? Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, you watched it. That was sad as fuck. Yeah, so the theory is that if you eat somebody's pancreas,

They will take away your like disease. So let's say you get a, you get a, you get a transplant. Right. Yeah. So this is the whole concept of the anime is this girl was going to die. Yeah. And her best friend at the time, he was like, I'll eat your pancreas for you. So when you eat it, it's supposed to dismiss the toxins in that person. Yeah.

Yeah, it's some like next superstition. Yeah. Some next superstition. But I'm starting to think, do you think certain things with the heart? Because we see so many symbolism, right? So much symbolism with the heart, with the soul, all of that. Do you think it really affects our physical body? What? Like seeing hearts? The spiritual side to it and the physical. To be honest, I don't know.

what do you think so recently um remember how i had crystals here yeah um my my cousin's girlfriend she's she's like uh oh she's like a quote-unquote i guess like a witch right yeah yeah and she can heal she can cleanse crystals all of that i was having trouble with the crystals that's why i took them out in the first place yeah yeah and then i asked her um can you cleanse them for me can you cleanse them for me make them good yeah so she did that and then right away when i got the crystals back she

She told me like be careful because it could be a stronger energy. Yeah, my blue crystal. You remember that one? That one is supposed to open up your throat chakra. Yeah, right and it's supposed to make you a better speaker all of that So right when I took it out of the bag, I got like a massive headache. Oh shit Like my head was like pounding. Yeah. Yeah, and I was like lying down right here literally right here and I had it right here And I was like this I was like damn, it's like it's like hurting my head. Yeah. Yeah, and

And over time, I want to say like 20 minutes in, guess what happened? My throat started to, felt like it was closing on me. Deadass? Closing, not opening. Closing. And I'm like, what's going on? Yeah. Because it's supposed to open your throat chakra. And it felt like, it felt like hands were around my neck.

You never told me this. I'm not even lying. Like, this is real shit. You never told me this. So I'm starting to feel something. I'm like, what is this? And then, you know that feeling where you kind of have like a clogged throat and you can't talk? Yeah. Not COVID, but like, you know what I mean? So I'm getting this feeling and I'm like, okay, I'm going to put it away and then just relax for a bit. Yeah. And it was still there. It was still there, right? It's still there. I did a little bit more research into Google. Yeah. And yes, those crystals do open up your throat chakra. Uh-huh.

But maybe it's because my vibrations is too high already. It might mess it up. But anyways, I went back. I gave the crystal to my sister. I'm like, okay, test it out. See if it affects you. She's like, oh, I didn't even really feel nothing. I'm like, oh, damn. Interesting. So I brought it back. I brought it back to my room. And then all of a sudden it was cleared.

nah yeah all of a sudden it was like i felt normal and i felt like i really wanted to talk like i really wanted to i really wanted to like hop on the pod right away and then that same day the next two days i recorded for my next podcast so i just back to back like boom i need to talk i need to talk that's fucked

no no but back to the symbolism it does i feel like it does like relate to what's happening actually in your life because remember when i told you that um before i seen i had that dream and before i was going to a bad routine yeah what number did i always see two through four oh four four four four remember and that that means that you like you're on the right path oh and i was getting to that right path yeah yeah getting a good routine getting a thing so i don't know if it's real but it did it did in

like inner yeah it did make me want to do it more like go to bed early yeah do my bed that's good that's good even if it's even if it's just a placebo if it helps you for the better who cares right but i'm gonna tell you this okay okay okay i actually avoid the number four why

So the number four in Asia is actually really, really bad luck. No. Yeah. Because it's actually, I think it's the same symbol as death. The number four is the same symbol as death in Chinese. Really? Something like that. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. And the number four, if you think about it when you write it, it happens.

It has 1, 2, 3, 4 N's Okay So it ends 4 times Okay So the very lucky numbers in China are what? 8 Yeah 7 Right? 2 N's 8 Infinity Infinity Yeah Well 4 ends in 4 ways

So anytime you see like a really superstitious Asian person, ask them about the number four, they'll tell you, yeah, that's like an unlucky number. Anytime they get a phone number, they try to avoid the number four. Really? Yeah. When I went to Pacific Mall, I was getting my phone plan and we're like, okay, let's get a good number, like a good fortune. And there's...

All the ones that had 444, 444, whatever. Yeah. Those were still there because nobody wanted them. Okay. But the ones that had like, for example, my number has hella sevens. I'm not telling you what my number is, but hella sevens. Oh shit, I didn't even know that. Yeah. That's fucked. Because it's a very lucky number. Yeah. Even in a rolling dice. Mm-hmm.

Seven is the highest outcome. Or like it's the highest possible outcome you can get. Yeah, yeah. Or... Yeah, that's what it is, right? Like you can get seven more odds than you can get like a nine, than a five. That's what I'm trying to say. Okay. And I know in Chinese New Year, red is lucky, right? Yeah, red is lucky. I always thought that red was...

A bad number. Or bad color. Yeah. Because it's like related to blood. Like that's the first thing you think about. Shit like that. Red? Yeah. I never thought about it like that. I never thought about like two. But I was like. Something that just was in my head. I don't think there's any. Unlucky color. Because. There's colors in the whole world. You know what I mean? And I don't see any. Maybe black. Black.

With black cats. Oh, black cats. With black cats. I know. Yeah, okay. Going back to fate though, because I was researching some stories. Yeah. So there was this girl, right? I think she was in Connecticut. And she had a bucket list. You have a bucket list, right? Or do you have like... I have one in my head. I don't write it down. Okay, so this girl had like a little bucket list that she wanted to complete before she died, right? Yeah. So one of them was like kissing the rain. One of them was like fly to Spain, right? Yeah. And she did all...

those things but the last thing on her list was to save a life oh and she didn't complete it cuz she died oh I know this is going remember they cross the street yeah and then the car hit her right but she actually did save the life cuz she pushed her friend out the way oh

Is that where you thought it was going? I had a whole different plot twist in my head. I was like, oh, she probably got in a car accident and she was dying. And then she was a donor and used her heart in another body. So she saved a life after death. Because they were walking across the road. It was supposed to hit her friend. Yeah. Moved her out the way. Damn.

She saved a life. So that's why I'm like writing shit on a piece of paper. It's very powerful. It's very powerful. Very powerful. Saying shit here is very powerful. And I think what's more powerful than just putting like the words or just putting the symbols and shit. Yeah. Is the actual feeling. Mm.

So I remember when I was doing a reading Sasha did a reading for me before Yeah And then when she was doing a reading She said Okay Carlos You have to really like feel Yeah Right And I did I like waited to feel something Yeah And like shit Now Now And I knew I knew exactly when to like For her to put the cards down Yeah And the reading I got was mad accurate But

But who knows? That's the thing. Cause you never know if some of this stuff is all just in your head or if there is like an actual presence there because of vibration. Yeah. Cause I'm, I'm such a hypocrite to that because whenever I heard girls talking about like, Oh, four, four, four, one, one, one. Yeah. Like shut the fuck up, man. And then I started, but now you're mad superstitious. Yeah. Yeah. No, I feel like, like you said, once you get into it, then you really start to see it. Cause before you're not paying attention to the signs. Hmm.

But now you're kind of paying attention to the signs. I think for me, I only got into it because it was too obvious. Word. Because, for example, the 33333. Yeah. I still see it like everywhere. No matter what. Everywhere. I still see numbers. And when I had my first reading, I was dead ass disrespecting the art. Like, I was like, okay. I was sitting down like this. I was like, I don't care. That shit's not true. And then when it actually started, like, she started asking me questions. I'm like, wait, hold on. So do you think it's valid? You think it's valid? I think it's... I think it's...

I personally believe some of that shit is real. Yeah, some of it is real. Some of it. But there's also general stuff like, oh, boom, you're going to make a lot of money. Yeah, you can say that to anyone else. That'll just motivate them to go make more money. I think what really affects...

a reading like that is when you can hear something that they know about you but didn't get to know you yet I think that's when it's different that's why my friend said whenever you go into reading never answer the questions that they ask because they can easily twist it so you can feel like they actually know you so when I went there I just say yes or no not like oh yeah my mom knew a ghost

or some shit like that. Oh, because they're going to run with it? They're going to run with it. Oh, yeah. That means you're going to have more spiritual shit in your life. Like, no, bro. Yeah.

Yeah, because I swear the first ever, you know, the crystal ball readings. Yeah. I'm pretty sure they were all just a finesse. Yeah. That was the most fire finesse too. And there's now there's more easier way to make money. Do you know there's you can match make online and you can make money from that. Wait, what? So you can take two. You can like on dating apps. You can take two people and match them and you can make money from that. What do you mean? Like match them, like find people you think will be together. And you can actually make like $35 an hour making that money.

- What? - Yeah. - Who's paying you?

Who's paying? The website. Interesting. Yeah. And did you know that you can, there's something called rent a friend. Oh, I heard about this one. I heard about this one. Yeah, where you actually rent a friend and you do fun stuff for like an hour and you pay them like money. No, there's a guy in Japan. He's actually, he's actually kind of introverted, but to force himself to go out more, he would, he would put himself up for hire for just to hang out and he wouldn't talk much and he wouldn't even do much. He would just be there just, just for company. Yeah.

So, you know who actually hired him? Who? Were criminals, murderers, people that were cheating on their significant others. Just people that needed to kind of going back to the unsent message thing. Yeah. Just getting shit off their chest. Yeah.

Right? They had all of this... All of this stuff built in... Inside of them. They're guilty for it. Yeah. They had to let it out. They were just giving him... Everything that was holding them back. Yeah, that's true. I really want to do some... Some spontaneous shit like that. Just putting myself out there... Going out and exploring this year. I think it's just because... We were in COVID area. Yeah. But like the number one... Like Wattpad story... That I always have in my head... Is one...

that me and some shorty are stuck in like this snowstorm and we just have to talk it out for an hour and shit like that. Oh, that's like Bart and Gio in JK. That's exactly what happens. That's a Wattpods. Or there was this video that they asked a stranger out on a dating app to go fly with them to a random country for one day. And that was like their first date. I always thought that's so fire. Yeah, that's pretty sick. If I can find a chill enough shorty to do that with me.

Let's go to New York. But like flying out, flying out, that shit happens on the regular low key. It does? Rich people fly out girls all the time. That happens on the regular nowadays. Yeah. But I'm talking about a regular person like me. Just regular people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh,

Yeah, people get flown out. I swear. No, that's like a LA thing. They'll fly people out from Canada, Toronto, whatever. Yeah, but that's like blue face flying out models. No, not even just rappers. Just hella rich people. Really? Yeah, if you have the bands for it, you'd probably do it. You'd probably do it, yeah. But that's the ultimate goal of mine. You want to get flown out? No, I want to fly out with a random person.

That I don't know And just like Have a good time What if it's someone you don't like? No obviously Obviously that's why You have to look at their profile And shit like that And ask Yo you wanna do this? For me What if you're stuck with somebody That you do That you like despise bro Like right away Like just terrible vibe And then you're stuck With them the whole trip That's why you kinda text first And then you get the vibe Right? And then you go Cause for me When you get catfished You've been catfished before No I haven't I've never been catfished I've never been catfished

The real jumpers know. Oh, that story? No, that's crazy. You could. You could get half-ish. Who knows? There's a story where one of my friends was on a dating app. Yeah. And then the guy was actually like 4'11", but on the dating app, he was like 5'10", 5'11". Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when they got to the coffee place, she was looking around, looking around. She was like, oh, you're him? Ah, damn.

Okay, okay. What do you think about people wearing those risers? The risers on their feet. Like if they're short and then they wear like the gel pads. In a girl? On a guy, on a guy. On a guy. Because girls already do that, man. Girls already do that. Girls, I don't care. Like they're already like... But guys? But why don't guys have the same thing? Why can't guys do the same thing, huh?

- I don't know. - Why not? Why not? Why not? Right? If girls can have heels, why can't guys have risers? - That's a double standard type thing. - Yeah, they double standard you. - It's just like, it's such a norm that the guy is more, it just has to be taller than the girl.

yeah i think it's just been normalized in society that for most that that girls don't want to date a smaller guy i don't know why i don't know why i think it's just the like the subconscious yeah of um survival instinct somebody bigger stronger yeah exactly this small doesn't mean masculine like you can have a small masculine guy right you know what those small people they're they're the most survivable what do you mean you know that

Like tall people die earlier than shorter people. Did you know? That's a thing? Yeah, you didn't know that? No. Like Yao Ming's not going to last like long. Why? Just because genetics? Hopefully he does. But yeah, just taller people in general, something with like their brain to like their heart distance, something like that. I forgot exactly. You guys have to look into it. But taller people actually have shorter lifespans than smaller people. Yeah.

And even goes with dogs Okay So bigger dogs They'll live maybe like I wanna say 12 years Something like that Yeah My Chihuahua

His lifespan is like 16 to 20. Yeah. 16 to 20 years. That's long. That's fucking crazy. Right? Yeah. So it's probably the same. It's probably the same thing. I know. There was something where the month you were born determines the day you die or something like that. The month you were born? There's certain months that live longer than other months. I don't want to hear that shit, bro. I don't want to hear that shit.

I don't know. But November was one of the ones where it was like we lived longer than others. When was yours again? I forgot. I don't want to hear that. Oh, the earlier? You're the earlier months. Shut up, bro. Shut up. Obviously. Okay, but...

Anyways, anyways. Do you ever hear about the Rat King Theory? The what? The Rat King Theory. No, I haven't. Rat King? Rat King. It's not a show. It's not nothing like that. Okay, okay. No, I haven't. So listen. So in early middle century, like middle ages, there was this thing that was like, it was a sign. It was a sign of really bad shit about to happen. Okay. So if you saw this. Yeah.

You better prepare. Okay. So what it was is called the Rat King. And what it is, it's pretty much a rat with its tails. I want to say like eight rats with its tails like entangled. Yeah. I'm going to show you. Okay. So check this out. Check this out. So see how there's like...

10, 12 rats with their tails entangled like that, right? Yeah. So this was a really, really bad omen that we're going to see really bad misfortune, disease, something bad's going to happen in the world, right? Fuck yeah. So this was called the Rat King.

And how this happens is when rats come into a small area, they become crammed during very harsh environments, cold environments or whatever, natural disaster. Yeah. They're going to get to that at some point. But it's very, very, very rare. And...

recently yeah i think just like last month they caught a rat king on video no yeah where they caught a rat king on video hold on of a bunch of rats like in yeah yeah but but it's really um it's graphic okay so they weren't able to show it on this tiktok okay okay but it's something like this but to a to a worse effect like this is nothing compared to what the actual one was yeah yeah yeah

So like their feces, whatever, makes them stick together and they get stuck. And it's called the rat king. So there were kings, I think in England, that their whole bloodline fell. Yeah. Because of the rat king. They saw a rat king in that time. Yeah. And what's happening right now in this month. I know. Some crazy things happening around the world. You might see like World War III. No, stop. Don't say that. Don't say that. No, that's not.

that don't say that yo because there's some talks man there's some talks a lot of crazy stuff happening that's scary like the omens like you get like the black cat remember i told that story about the filipino uh with no head oh yeah yeah do you know about the the doll oh what's that that scary tower that in disney where are you tower of terror tower of terror yeah there was um an omen like you get an omen if you don't say bye or good morning to the doll at the end of the

- What? - Yeah, so all the employees before and at the end of each shift have to say goodbye, whatever his name is, or else they will, like, that's an omen for bad luck. - Damn. - They'll get bad luck throughout the day. - That's some Annabelle shit, bro. - No, it is. - That's like, it's actually cursed? - Yes, it's a thing at Disney. It's at the end of the ride, you walk out, it's a doll sitting around all these like dirty things. - Damn. - And they have to keep it there or else like the whole thing's cursed. - Oh, something's gonna happen. - Yeah.

Has anybody died at Tower of Terror? No, I don't think so. But actually, I don't know. I haven't searched it up. I'm pretty sure there's some, like, ghost stories there, though. I heard, like, ghost stories about that. Do you know one? I don't know any personally. Because they changed it ever since. I'm pretty sure the one in Hollywood, at least. Okay. They changed it into, um... What do you call it? Uh...

Guardians of the Galaxy. Okay. So they completely renovated. But maybe the reason they renovated was because of the curses. Word. You never know. There's a lot of shit at Disney, bro. You know the first water park at Disney got taken down? Why? Why? So I think, do you know the Tom Sawyer watering hole or whatever it was called? I know who Tom Sawyer is. Yeah, so that was the first one. So that whole river, right? They thought that a lot of people were dying because of the

a brain eating bacteria oh like an anobe or what do you call it anobe amoeba amoeba something like that and they were like there was either that killing people or there was no explanation of why people were dying oh shit but

But they completely took it down because obviously you don't want kids swimming in an infectious pool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure, for sure. Eating their brains like... Bro! That's fucked. Okay, speaking of Disney. Okay. Have you ever heard the Monster Zinc Theory? I've heard a lot. There's another one? No, this one's crazy. This one's crazy. So there's a theory that in Monster Zinc, you know how they use scream energy...

In their universe, right? Yeah, yeah. It's a sense of like clean energy. They only use the screams of kids. Yeah. So the theory is that there being a clean energy has to mean at some point they were using a dirty energy. And what is the dirty energy? What? As we heard in many monster stories before. No, in many monster stories before, as we know, monsters what? They eat and kill kids. Oh, fuck. Yeah.

So maybe the dirty energy is the kids. Is the kids. I hundred...

I 100% believe that theory though. Right? Yeah, because why would they want to keep that little kid around with them? It's almost like a twist on the regular monster story. Because OG monster stories were always about, oh, that monster is going to eat you. That monster is going to take your blood. Yeah. Right? And there's even darker theories how the kid's blood and the screams is like a metaphor for what? Adrenochrome. That's so funny.

That's crazy. You know, I'll add on to that because I heard a theory that Luca was actually a monster. Luca, the Disney movie? Yeah. Because what does a human go forming into a monster? What do you think that is? Do you think the monster took like that soul of the kid and now it's just like transforming everywhere?

Oh, shit. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think there's another short one. I think you know about the... How Moana actually is dead. Moana? Moana. How do you say it? Moana, Moana. Moana is actually dead in the whole movie. Oh, I heard about that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I think...

on the boat right? where she was on like that's when she died the craft she made herself right? yeah and then that symbol that she was trying to get that was her trying to find a new life right? yeah yeah cause when when she fell or when the wave crashed

She didn't save herself. It was like the waves that picked her up. But that could have been a hidden meaning where she actually died. And then once you went on this whole adventure to see Maui and see all these magical things. And try to capture the thing. Yeah. It's just all of the dream or all of her in like a coma state. Yeah, that's true. It's weird, man. Her being the hero. Yeah. Right? I know. And you can take that type of sense to any cartoon. Like, oh, they were in a dream the whole time. Yeah.

Caillou. Caillou, yeah. It's kind of like the Pokemon. You know the Pokemon one? Which one? The Pokemon one where Ash is in a coma. Like that classic one. But there's another Pokemon theory I heard. Okay. This one's kind of crazy too. Okay, okay.

that in so in the og pokemon games fire and red red and blue right yeah if you think about it the whole what's the end goal in that game is to what all the leaders yeah and catch me too right yeah catching catching me too is like the the final step yeah yeah right so listen bro okay if you really take it in throughout your journey in the game you go ahead and like

Fight Team Rocket. You get in trouble with Team Rocket a lot. Team Rocket is everywhere in your journey, right? Yeah, right. So why? Why? Now, if you take it in, Mewtwo was made by who? Team Rocket? Team Rocket. Now, listen, listen, listen. Yeah.

So the theory goes that Mewtwo is actually taking revenge on Team Rocket because Mewtwo is what? Mewtwo is psychic. So he might be controlling you as a person to go ahead and collect all these Pokemon. Yeah, yeah. Fight Team Rocket. Dismantle Team Rocket. And then once you're worthy enough, be captured. And then you go fight. And then, yeah. And then come to Mewtwo. And then you're worthy enough to capture Mewtwo. Oh, okay.

That makes sense. Because if you think, what does a kid have to do with Team Rocket? Why the hell would a kid want to take over Team Rocket? Yeah. There's no backstory. I don't remember any backstory of why Team Rocket was a thing. Yeah, no, no. It's just like they're the criminal organization. It's like Swiper. They just ran up. Exactly. But it has nothing to do with the main character himself. The main character just happens to be in all these situations where Team Rocket is at. And if you take it in, the first time you ever see Team Rocket. Yeah.

You're right beside Cerulean Cave And that's where You catch Mewtwo That's fucked up Nah that's

Right? Yeah, that's fucked. You know the funniest thing in Pokemon? Yeah. It's like, why are there just random people standing around wanting to fight a kid? Nah, that's like the premise of the game, though. It's like, yo, I want to battle you. I don't know where. The mechanics, it's like you walk straight and if you're in your line of eyesight, then it's like, oh, let's fight. It's on smoke, bro. Anytime they see you, they want to battle.

Imagine that was like in real life though. It's like if it was in real life. I think I would be a single Yeah, I think that would be a thing But the only problem is do you think? No, for sure for sure if Pokemon were real we decided we'd be settling beefs with Pokemon. Yeah, just straight just straight fighting Yeah, Loki it would probably be like world peace. Yeah, okay settle everything in battles, man

Nah, but you know, there's a thing going around on TikTok where you pass by a guy with like your same fashion sense and in your mind, you're always like, damn, I want to beat that guy up. Oh, yeah, you hate them or some shit? Yeah, why do you think we get that? Because I know in thrift stores, when you see that guy who's like stylish, you're like, ah, this guy. Oh, I only do that. Okay, backstory. Backstory, I only hate on people that look like me in the thrift store just because backstories

Back in high school, anytime I was at the thrift store, I was there to hustle. Yeah. I was there to like get clothes and then resell. So anytime I saw somebody that like, oh, they know what's up. Yeah. Fuck. They got everything I wanted. For sure. You see the guy in the car heart. Oh, he's going to get everything. Yeah. They can get all the nice clothes. Because they're the hunter gatherers. Exactly. Exactly. Oh my goodness. But if it wasn't for that reason, why do you think we, in our subconscious mind, if someone looks like us, why do you think we, we...

hate right away. Like our first one is like, I want to punch this guy in the face, fam. Cause I get that a lot. I get that a lot. Like seeing somebody that looks like you or like resembles you. Yeah. Resembles me. And I'm like, bro, like, I don't know. Do you think it's a, it's a thing of this is deep though. Okay. Of you disliking certain attributes of yourself. I wouldn't say that. No, but that, that, you know, that's a real, that's a real dilemma. Yeah. Like,

A lot of things that you hate about yourself, you'll try and put onto a different person. Like, oh, I don't like that celebrity. Maybe it's certain attributes that you have, but it affects you and you don't like it yourself. I never thought about it like that. But the way I'm talking, because obviously I never talked to that person that I hate. Yeah, yeah. I'm going off straight off looks. Just looks? Yeah. I don't know. Because I think it's the opposite. When somebody does look like you or actually resembles you,

I think you end up liking them. Really? In my opinion. Or at least... Because I read a lot of subconscious books and shit, right? So one of the biggest ones is their mannerisms. If somebody has really similar mannerisms to you, you'll end up liking them. Oh, yeah, yeah. I remember reading something that was like, how to make a girl like you, just copy their mannerisms. Yeah, exactly. And I was like, that doesn't even make sense because you're just going to...

be weird to them no you don't have to you don't make it obvious you don't do every single thing as they do like a mirror you don't do that shit imagine she takes out her phone you're like no it's all right you don't do that you don't do that what you do you pick up on something let's say uh they play with their cup they tap it a few times and then when they're done doing it you think oh okay and later later

But that's like... That's like stepping into some dark game or something. Manipulating. That's too much. You don't need to do all that. You don't need to do all that. I know. But it is... That's the problem. When certain tactics like that do work, is it wrong to use them? Now that you know. Now that you know. Oh. I believe, yes, it's wrong. Why? And this is why. Because...

If you're using all these tactics that are not you, then she's falling in love with a fabricated subconscious game you. Okay, okay, you. True, true. I agree. I agree, but. Okay. But would you say everything that you've learned becomes you? Oh, that's a good question.

Cause what, what you've learned, what you've learned, take this in, take this in. Whether it be from personal experience or people telling you it's the exact same thing as learning something else. No, but okay. Cause you learn it's information you take in and then go ahead and do. So if you learn manners, so would you say manners is the same thing?

Right? Because you learn manners and then you do manners on the day. But like you're saying dark game. So this is stuff that you're really... Only certain people look into this, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you can view it like homework or a test, right? That game is you cheating. So you have... Not exactly. That's like learning. That's not what you learn. That's stuff that you have on the side that you can use. Okay, okay. But I'm going to tell you this. I'm going to tell you this. No matter what, I think people learn that in life. But...

They go through like the harsh part of it and then get to experience it. Then they learn. So it's kind of like a fast forward. So for example, learning not to put all your heart into somebody you just met. Yeah. It's something you learn because maybe you're a very loving person and you do that right away. Yeah, real shit, real shit. So you're going to learn it no matter what, in my opinion. Mm-hmm.

But I think people that do like take a step and then try to learn about human psychology. Yeah. They get the edge because they're early to it. I know. So in a sense, it makes them more wise. Would you agree? Yeah. No, for sure. It makes them more wise because now you have all these chicks, but...

Yeah, you're kind of right. Because I guess that is what you learned. But what I'm trying to say is that if you... The natural? The natural. I guess. It doesn't feel natural. And I feel like maybe long term, you might feel... Some people might feel guilty that they do that stuff. Like, oh, this is how I got you. This is how I actually got you. I don't think it will be like that unless you're very malicious.

I don't think it's- - See, and that's fucked to say. Like you don't want to go into that relationship malicious in the first place. - Yeah, no, I'm saying like, I don't think, like, I don't think anybody malicious would really, maybe. Certain people would do that. But this is the way I see it. I see it like this. If you're learning, let's say you had a friend, let's say you had a friend and then your friend taught you all this stuff. - Yeah. - So in a sense you naturally learned it. - Yeah. - Or let's say you had a big brother that taught you these things.

In a sense, you naturally learned it. And that's just how you know. So would you say that's natural in itself? But for people that didn't have the big brother, that didn't have that friend that knows these things, how would they learn?

yeah yummy no i think it's just one of those ones where the ones who really go through some shit and they're like okay let's let's learn these things yeah now they have the upper hand but it's fucked because now those people can use it on people they don't even like or just they can use it and really that's why it's hard yeah that's why it is tough it is tough but would you agree people will use the same things on you like girls definitely use it on you 100 are you crazy

You gotta be insane if you don't think a shorty's doing the same shit to you. Yeah. You gotta be insane. Yeah, but in the back of my mind, I'm not thinking that she read a fucking book or watched YouTube videos. No, I'm not saying any of that. I'm not saying any of that. Yeah. But girls definitely play games. Like, guys play games. Everybody does that. Everybody does that. Yeah. But,

It's very... What's it called? Naive, I guess. To think that they wouldn't do it to you. Yeah, that's fair. Because I do play games, but it's shit that I naturally learn. Or some shit that's trial and error. Like, oh, that works. Not texting for a while and then texting. I learned that through trial and error.

Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not that I went on a fucking book and read it, right? So I guess, yeah, it is fair game that if you want to go out and read these books about how to get a girl or some shit, I guess it's fair game. It's just that I'm lacking because I'm not reading it, I guess.

But I would never do that because I'm just trusting myself. No, but you do learn in a sense, no? You either learn from experience or you learn from... I would rather learn from experience. Learn from experience. So I don't feel like no guilt or like I'm trying to do... Because whenever I try to undo it, I'm like...

It doesn't feel right. It doesn't give me a good like... I feel like because... You know why? Why? Because maybe your intention of use isn't right. Because if... For example, for example, if I learn how to... I'm a fighter. Yeah. I know how to fight.

My intention of use isn't to hurt people. So when I'm sparring with people, I'm not going to fuck them up. You know what I mean? But I do know those skills and I just like here and there, boom, boom, boom. It's whatever to me. So in a sense, it's the same thing. Like if you're talking to somebody or if you're trying to make a relationship, you have all these things, but you're not going to like...

Yeah. You get me? No, no. You're gonna like here and there. Exactly. That's how I think at least. In my mindset, even if you have all this power, I don't think you should use all of it. No, for sure. At any point. For sure. And obviously my intention of use is not like malicious, right? Yeah. But the crazy shit I heard, which...

actually goes goes into this was the psychic or that that girl that was doing me readings yeah she was like yeah i can i can give you like a love reading and shit like that i'm like no it's okay i don't want to i'll just let me just experience that right so she goes she goes oh do you like anyone right now i was like yeah one person and she's like oh yeah i can actually switch their energies for for her to like you more but you have to do the rest i'm like that's messed up

on like that, that will make me feel guilty because that's not me. That's the best though. I, for me to hire us or anyone to hire a psychic and, and switch around energies so they can actually like you, that's the lowest of the lowest. That's the lowest. This guy's playing real life Shrek too, bro. Yeah.

That's some low-potion shit. But isn't that just kind of like the books? Because you're kind of switching the energies by doing these games. I don't think it's the same. I don't think it's the same. I just think your intention with it is what matters. It depends, yeah. Yeah, your intention with it is what matters. Because bringing you back to sparring, sure, I know all these things, but I'm not going to...

leave someone on the floor bleeding, right? That's messed up. It just, it just takes a certain person to do those things though. Like somebody with malicious intent is going to do something malicious anyway. Yeah. Right. That's true. Somebody evil is going to be evil anyway. Right. Somebody with a good heart is going to be good anyway. Yeah. That,

That's true. So it's not necessarily what they know. It's more of who they are as a person and what they're going to do with it. Yeah, I know. And back to Taekwondo, because before I was this guy who would always get beat up, right? Always get beat up. But then once I reached a black belt, there was this newcomer, right? Who had like the most stubborn, he was the most stubborn kid, right? And I thought, and he thought he was a shit, right? So my master really put this lesson in me.

I went and sparred against him, right? Yeah. I beat him up, beat him up like crazy. And I was taunting. I was doing all this cocky shit. My master pulled me to the side. He's like, what the fuck are you doing? You don't teach. You learn all these things to teach someone. You don't bully. Just because you're bigger now, you don't bully him now. No, that's for real. Because what is he really going to learn?

He's gonna learn once he becomes bigger. He's gonna bully the next kid. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So what do you do? You just, you go, you teach him a lesson. You don't fucking beat him up, bro. Yeah, yeah. And I had to really look at myself. I'm like, fuck, man. I became into a bully. Yeah, you know what? I had a similar experience with that. Yeah. This one's a little bit funnier. Why? So, okay. I think that was probably when you're really young, right? Oh, yeah, for sure. You're really young. So this was when I was younger too. Okay. Yeah.

Okay looking back I kind of feel bad But it was still like Something I just wanted to do Just cause So One day in practice In Muay Thai One of the kids I sparred with His dad came up to me Okay His dad came up to me And he talked to me And he's like

hey um so and so's brothers are coming in like older brothers and he's like do you think you can you can go easy on him just make him look a little bit better for his brothers right oh okay and then i'm like in my head yeah i just told him yeah yeah sure whatever right and then i don't know why i don't know what it was in that exact moment yeah but i'm like fuck that

I don't know why, but I just went like, I went off. I didn't hurt him badly. I just like, I did shit to make him fall. Like, you know the sweeps I did? Oh, nah. That's fucked up. My sweeps are deadly, right? Yeah. So I was like sweeping. I was teething. I was like, boom. Teething? Yeah. That's disrespectful.

Nah, cause look. Nah, I think I get why you did that. Why? Obviously when there's like older brothers coming in, there's more people watching. Yeah, yeah. You don't want to get beat up. No one wants to get beat up in like their respective thing. Yeah, yeah. I think for me, at that time when I was a kid, this is when I was like, I was a little bit of a demon. Yeah. Like I didn't really care.

I was kind of a bully, I guess. You can say I was a bully. Yeah. But in my, this is what I was thinking. I was thinking like, yo, if, if he's gonna, if he's gonna, if his dad's gonna come up to me and tell me that, it should be him. Mm.

Rather than his dad. If he came up to me and said that. Yeah. 100 respect. Yep. You know what I mean? 100. Bear respect. Bear respect. But the fact it had to be somebody like his dad, somebody like that. Yeah. It's just like, I don't know. Why couldn't you say that yourself? Yeah, that's true. Like, I understand why you did that. I would have done the same thing. Fuck all that noise, man. Yeah, yeah. You know? Yeah.

Growing up though, I do feel like maybe I shouldn't have done that. And I do kind of regret like I should have given him a better experience. But I never let that one thing be like his whole experience training. Like I would still train. I would still like work with him, like really try and build him up. But it was just that event. Like, I don't know. I felt like a demon there.

No, I get that. And I've been extremely humbled one time when I went to another gym to spar. And you know, when you go into another gym, you got to act like you're good, right? So I went against this Olympic...

Like person right And during sparring We were just doing drills right We were just doing the kick after kick And I was kicking this guy mad hard In my head I'm like let me assert dominance Let me show what this guy got This was only during practice And the master And my master was like Gavin if you kick him that hard Guess what he's gonna do He's gonna kick you 10 times harder So what happened When we actually got into a match Beat the fuck up man Papa

I was getting like Olympic treatment. This guy turned into an Olympian. That was like one of the, I became extremely humble after that, bro. You know? In Muay Thai especially, it's a very, when you see Taekwondo and Muay Thai fight, Muay Thai, they stand in front of each other and just trade. And just trade. So when you're sparring, you never want to go like full force because you're going to get the exact same thing back. Yeah.

You're not moving nowhere 'cause you're right there. You're right there, you're gonna get hit. You're getting hit no matter what. So whenever I spar, I'm like, okay, I gotta give him a little bit of this, a little bit of this.

But I really hold back on like full-fledged power, especially for fighting with dog at some points Yeah, because there wasn't a lot of younger people in Muay Thai. Yeah, I was sparring with adults, bro I was sparring with adults and these adults are way stronger than me So they're gonna hurt me if I if I go too hard, even though I'm a kid like if a little kid hit you hard You're gonna hit them back. Yeah, exactly. Then they have like a little bit less respect for you. You know, I mean for sure

So I remember this one time. Fuck, I still hate this guy to this day. Yeah, yeah. There was this guy holding pads for me. And he was saying some dumb shit. No, I was holding pads for him first. Okay. I was holding pads for him first. He was saying some dumb shit. He's like, oh, yeah, I used to train at the old gym. I'm like, yeah, I was there too. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I was there too. Anyways, he's like, yeah, I bet I could beat your ass. Blah, blah, blah. Saying shit like that. I bet I could beat your ass.

Why you gotta say that? I'm helping you train. Helping you train. My turn to hit pads. Okay. My turn to hit pads.

I gave him smoke. You've seen me kick the bag. I literally kicked it way harder than that and made sure he felt it. So it became to the point where he's like, okay, bro, I get it. I get it. He said it. He said it. So, okay, I get it. I get it, bro. I get it. You can kick hard. And like, if you gave me the respect in the beginning, this wouldn't have been a problem. But now you got to hold it for me. I get it. No, I got that. And I don't think we've ever told the story on, I think we've only told this on stereo. Yeah. So when I was sparring Carlos, I,

I hit him with a jab and his nose started bleeding. And he goes into the washroom. He gets the tissues and stuff like that. And it's the respect thing. He comes out the washroom, says the scariest shit to me. He's like, okay, let's go now. I'm like, oh, fuck. No, I said, okay, I got to get you for that. I said, I got to get you for that. He said, okay, I got to get you for that now. I'm like, oh, fuck.

It's one of those ones It's like Oh if I hit you hard He's gonna hit me back hard Yeah yeah That's what it is It's a mutual It's a respect thing It's respecting It's like Okay okay You got that Okay now it's your turn Now it's your turn Exactly And you know what happened You know I gave you a bloody nose You know And then you You gave me a nice liver shot But yeah you know Chill chill chill Chill chill Don't ever do that around me But

Don't ever do that. We'll scrap. We'll drop our phones right now and scrap. But it's cool because like in the fighting vlog, you can see our art forms kind of differentiate because I was going around you and you were just there. Yeah, I see it.

No, but I was counter-punching. If you guys see that vlog... Yeah, go look at it right now. You can see... If you guys see that vlog... I'm not gonna be like... I'm not gonna gas myself. I'm just gonna say... I'm gonna say this. I really just... I didn't try to like go hard. I didn't try to be like... Oh, I gotta like look good. Yeah. You never do that. I never do that. I never want to do that. Mm-hmm.

No matter what inspiring. Cause you never want to fuck up your homie. Yeah, exactly. You don't want to fuck up your homie. Yeah. I mean like, I don't want to do that to you. And then like you look embarrassed and shit. Never that, never that. So if I ever, if I ever spar somebody, you're going to get treatment, but you're not going to be like on the floor. Yeah. That'll,

Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. And I respect that because once we're on the camera and you post it, anything can go. Exactly. Exactly. Hundreds of people are seeing this, you know? Yeah. So I never like, I never kick it up. I never do that. Yeah. But if it's an actual fight, that's why, that's why if you see me train on the bag and then see me spar in person, two different stories. Yeah. Two different stories. You'll see me like go full fledged, full speed, full power. But when we're sparring, like I really hold everything.

I mean just for fun just for fun yeah my toxic trait I'll get some highlights like I'm not gonna lie I wanna look good in front of the camera but obviously I'm not gonna fucking knock you out yeah especially when training with like Terran and Miles and stuff

It just it just looks worse because they can't they can't defend it, but I'm really not hitting them hard I really wasn't hitting them hard. Okay, is it? Oh, yeah Is it wrong for if you do get a great shot and you knock out your homie like your homie? Yeah, is it okay to post that on your story? Nah, it's not. No, it's not. Okay, cuz cuz just flip this. How would you feel if I posted you knocked out? Uh, yeah, you feel yeah, come on

Yeah, but I would do the same thing though. That's why I said don't ever do it. I gave you a bloody nose, fam. You never gave me a bloody nose. I get a bloody nose all the time when I spar though. Okay, that's true. If I didn't get a bloody nose, I didn't spar hard enough.

You know what I hate though? Those guys that you'll hit very softly and he'll get no hits on you. But then he'll become like, ugh. Like he'll turn into, you know when in Mario, like you'll hit a boss and then he becomes angrier. Oh, he gets like level two? Yeah, yeah. But you're not going hard, but he'll go super hard. Who? No, I'm not going to obviously say the name. Oh, yeah. Yeah, exactly. You know exactly what I'm talking about.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, you'll hit him with a few shots and then he'll be like, oh. Yeah, yeah. That's why, you just gotta pepper him up. Yeah. Because if you get peppered, you'll get annoyed but you won't get angry. You'll get annoyed. You'll get annoyed. That's exactly it. You'll hit him with like a thing and he'll be like, yo, good job, man. You did a good job. So you'll...

Yeah, you gotta give him like a... You gotta be happy, feel me? In anything. If we're playing any sport, let's say we're playing basketball, and you just like... Imagine LeBron playing with you. LeBron would crush you, right? LeBron would crush you. But this is what I think. If LeBron's playing with you, he's not gonna use...

power yeah or maybe he does you know maybe he does but just knowing a person with all of that yeah like let's say there's a real superhero in the world everyday life he's probably not gonna use his powers like that unless like it calls for it right yeah that's true but but during spark can you agree with this if you want that person you're sparring to really go hard and train you because you don't learn anything if he's going so soft hmm is that

Is that Do you believe in that? Yeah no that's exactly it That's exactly If you want to turn it up Just turn it up That's it You'll get what you receive Period You'll get what you receive Because like you see in Miles He always sparred you He got better He got way better He got way better bro Cause he was sparring a good person Yeah yeah yeah He got way Cause he learned He learned Exactly And I think No matter what in life In life yeah I was gonna say If you put yourself In the harsh environments To learn You will become A monster Because you grew up

In that harsh environment, if you're stuck in your comfort zone, if you're stuck in your little bubble, it's very hard to grow here. Yep. Right? You're trapped. Very small. If you put a wild dog in a cage, that dog will be smaller than the wolves outside. For sure. And that's real. That's scientific fact. If you take an orca whale and put it in a zoo, that whale will be smaller than the whales outside in the water in the wild. Yeah.

Yeah. It's exact same thing in life. If you want to grow, you got to be outside of your cage. Yeah, real shit. If you want to roll with the wolves, you turn into a wolf. Exactly. You know what I mean? Yeah. So everyone out there, you got to do one thing that's outside your comfort zone this year, man. I believe in you. Yeah, everybody. Even if it's just a little thing. Look, look, look. Yeah. This is important. This is important. Even if it's just a little thing like, oh, I'm kind of nervous to order something on the menu. Oh, I'm...

Or usually my dad orders for me. Let me order this time. If it's little things like that, yeah, do it. Do it because it'll make you more, it'll make you that person. Because even sometimes your parents might be introverted. Maybe your parents might be shy type. Then if you want to change yourself, then you got to go ahead and make those steps or you're just going to be like everybody else. For sure. Yeah, it's got to be the you that goes out it.

Yeah. And that's crazy that you said that the ordering one, cause my cousin, I hated him for this, but it actually made me hate, made me to like the person I am today. Like whenever you're ordering, I was so small, but he's like, Gavin order for all of us.

I'm like, oh, oh, oh, oh. But like after a few tries, I could order easily now. That's good. And that's so small, like such a small thing. But it does make you extroverted in a way. It does. It really does, especially when you're a kid and you drill it right away. And I think one of the worst things is when your parents were always like, oh, don't talk to strangers. Don't talk to strangers, right? Okay. Because no, but then it becomes everybody is closed off. Oh, yeah. Or you shouldn't talk to anybody. Yeah.

I don't think you should necessarily don't talk to strangers. Yeah. I think it's just keep your guard up. That's what I would teach my kids. Just don't talk to the creepy people. Like people at your school, yeah, talk to them, bro. Yeah, yeah. You feel me? I say talk to everybody, in my opinion. Everybody's creepy. No, honestly, talk to everybody, but be smart. Yeah. But be smart. Because the more people you learn about, the more people you meet, the less you'll be prejudiced. The less you'll be judgy. The less you'll be even judgy on yourself. Yeah.

Because you know how other people feel Yeah Right? That's true I think the worst thing is When people become so They feel like they're being judged Yeah Just because they don't know How everybody else thinks Right?

Oh, that's just insecurity. Yeah. Like the, the fact of you thinking you're being judged all the time when you didn't even get to get the opinion of everybody else. How do they think? How do they think? How do they think? Yo, you're not going to know. You don't have that preconception. I mean, don't, don't think right away. Everybody's judging you. Nobody's really looking. Yeah. Yeah.

Deadass no one is. Nobody's really lucky. That's just, I think, the main character syndrome. The main character syndrome? Yeah, you always think, like, you're the attention. You're always, like, number one spotlight, you know? I think...

I'm not going to lie. Sometimes I do get main character syndrome. Yeah, I do too. 100%, but you should never let that be, you should never let that make your own decisions. You get me? You should never let that push you into one way or another. Okay. Like your main character syndrome, just do exactly what you want to do. No influence.

That's hard though. That's very tough. Because you're always influenced by something. Your emotion could be your emotions, but it's for you to control it. So the people that can't, they have to make it out of emotion. You know? So how would you say that? You got to learn. See? You got to learn. No, that's what it is. You have to... There's no way you can just go... I say, okay, pick up some skates and go play hockey. Yeah. Nobody's going to...

You know what I mean? Unless you learned it, got the fundamentals, you'll be able to do it. But you got to baby steps. Do a little bit of this. Try skating. And then pick up the stick. You know? Real shit. That's how it goes. Yeah, that's true. I will end it there. Thank you everyone for watching this episode of Jumper's Jump Podcast. Make sure to hit the links in the bio. Follow us on Instagram. Comment, like, all that good stuff. Go make sure to listen on Spotify, Apple, all of that.

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