EP.199 - HAUNTED MASS KILLER, AI APOCALYPSE THEORY & MAN SHOT BY A TREE
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Would you say every time you meet a guy, subconsciously, do you think we always think about kids? Like how your kids would turn out? In a way. Because if you bag it, like I'll look at some people. This is way back when I was even a kid kid, right? I'll look at some people like, damn, if you were to mix this person with this person,

what offspring would you create is that weird though no and isn't that weird that's kind of how like attraction is too like you're attracted to someone so you're thinking like oh i could procreate with you i want to procreate with you no but if you bag it that's our purpose i know if you bag it though is dating like that for you because back then in like high school it was just like i want to get with like the baddest girl right but now it's like no i this has this is gonna be the the mother to my kids are you guys in that state or are you guys still in like not

Like, I don't care right now about the kids. I don't know. It's a little bit of both. You know, it's still early. Definitely. We still got time. But I do think about that stuff. And I saw someone, a mom, she was saying the person you end up with is going to have to support you through the death of your parents and the death of like...

So you have to pick a partner who can be there for you in those moments. I never did it like that. Isn't that crazy though? I actually never did it like that. And I'm like, and whenever I think of it, I'm like, can I imagine you next to me while I'm giving birth? Like, will you be good to me while I'm giving birth to your kids? Like that kind of stuff is what I think about. Cause I'm like, imagine being with someone and they can't even like support you in those times of needs. And you're with someone, they can't even support you through the death of your parents.

I never thought of it like that though. It's like Gen Z that we're the new parents. Have you seen those things? It's so joke. It's like, oh, yo, I've seen someone who's like, yo, we're really keeping this baby alive. Like that's their thoughts. But like, they're not thinking like that. That's like old head thinking. I just think about like, if you, if you really take it in, you're just taking the best aspects of people or deciding which aspects you want to have and then create your, your Pokemon. No, literally.

Like you're like passing the things like it's like the things you love to be your parents You're passing on to your kids the things you hated you're trying to like get that away from them as much as possible Yeah, but is there ever like a perfect you can create? Nope. No, there's not There's always gonna be something. There'll be something so there's never like a perfect person for you. Yeah, okay Say you had a kid right? What would you would you change from what your parents did that you didn't like and then what would you not do to your kid? You know, I mean Am I allowed to say when your parents would hit you like

Yo listen

throwing a slipper at your yo we got the worst of the worst bro i got bad i got i got belt i got i'm pretty sure like slipper shoe whatever bro in turkey so there's like no laws in turkey about like whether or not you can like hit your kids like it's not like canada you know yeah and when we were in turkey i was like five or six i don't really remember this my mom was just like bro you were being so annoying and i was a really annoying kid i'm not gonna lie to you she was like i took you outside just

She was like, all the anger I've had fueled up. She just took it out on me. I flew across the sidewalk, knees skid, bleeding. I'm crying. It was just one really big hit. That's crazy. I sympathize for you. You want me to take a knee for sorrow? She said she felt bad after, but she was like, yeah, you were just being really annoying.

I wouldn't have kids until I know I have the patience to put up with annoying kids. Do you ever catch yourself doing something and you're like, damn, that's my mom or that's my dad. You know what they say? Or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Growing up is realizing in so many ways we're just mini versions of our parents. It's crazy. Do you hear that theory? I heard, I don't know if this is true, Sahar, but people are saying this is true.

Girls will only date somebody subconsciously that they think could kill them. Whoa. What? Subconsciously. That was the most Carlos sentence I've ever heard in my life. I thought it was going a completely different direction. What do you mean? Exactly. So check this out. So I'm pretty sure they did a research on this. Like this is real.

that subconsciously girls will go after people that they think could overpower them or overtake them. My ex definitely could have killed me. For the reason of basic needs of survival. It's like protection, right? Because if you think a person could protect me, then I feel all girly and stuff like that. If you don't think they could take you out, then how are they going to take someone else? Do you think you guys could kill your girlfriends? Whoa! That's some crazy...

You just said it. You just said subconsciously they dated you because they know. I don't know. I would have to ask my girl if she, but probably. But subconscious means we don't even realize it. We don't realize it. We don't realize it. Yeah. But do you think so? Do you think that's true? I think it's true. To be honest. Because survival wise. Low key in the sense that I'm like, I'm someone I'm like, I look for someone who could protect me like in any way. Like I want to be with someone where like if we're on the streets, nobody would even try to like rob us because they're scared of him.

You know what I mean? So I guess in a way, yeah. But I don't think I'm out here thinking like, could he kill me? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You don't like... It's just subconscious. It's just subconscious. I think that could be true, yeah. So what's the guy version? I mean, what's the girl version of that? Girl version of that. What do you think the girl version is? I think it's a girl, like someone who can take care of you. Like when you're like sick and like baby you. Don't you think? Like someone who can nurture you.

Like a mom? Like if you were to be disabled, someone who could literally take care of you. Subconsciously, probably. Subconsciously, probably. I think you're right. Yeah, right? Do you think that's what it is from your years of doing social media about this shit? Yeah, I'm going to say yeah. That's what drastically changed from guys and girls, though. It's like killing versus nurture. Okay, you guys are using the wrong word. Protection versus nurture. Yeah, low-key, you are using the word.

because killing is the wrong word. Killing it? No, but that's what it is. That's what the actual study was about. Yeah, that's crazy. That's the actual study was about because that's why, that's dead ass why and this is part of the theory that girls are attracted to serial killers.

What? Yeah, you didn't know that? I think that's just mental illness. It's true. Because the true crime, I know a bunch of girls that say I love, and they eat comfortably. It's like 12 people murdered. And they're like, just check this out, check this out, check this out. So if you take it in, right? And I'm sure there's hella, hella girls will agree with this. They love true crime. They love hearing about murder mysteries. Right.

And they'll be comfortable listening about the craziest shit and just be like, oh, it's whatever. That's a real person, blah, blah, blah. For guys, it's a little bit different because we would be the ones doing it, you know? I guess. So for us, it's more like, ah, that's crazy because you would be the ones fighting the battle. You guys are the ones witnessing it or being the victim. I've personally never witnessed. I like true crime because I'm just interested in it. I've never been like, damn, he kind of fine.

But but there are like hello females I'm pretty sure Ted Bundy had a whole call no he did He had girls sending like love letters to him like that. We're just insane like get help question mark if you're into that But I think it's just because it's that's a survival thing. Yeah, it can't just be like or is you think that's like a thing they're into like a kink I

It probably could be a king. There's lots of weird kings out there, so you never know. There's a fetish for everything. There's a fetish literally for everything. Literally every, there's a fetish for everything. But yo, I didn't know this though, but in Vancouver, BC, oh no, BC in Canada, there's something called the Highway of Tears. And it's like, there's a big billboard. I don't know if we, if I realized that when I was there, but it says all the girls do not hitchhike here because there's a bunch of killers on the loose still.

Wait, wait, wait. So we could actually go visit it and go to that road because apparently if you go there at night, there's some killers that haven't been caught roaming around the roads looking for hitchhiking, especially girls. That's crazy. Don't go there. I know what they'll do is they'll use a girl to be the opener. So what they'll do is they'll have her knock on somebody's door, say, I need help, I need help. And then the moment they open the door...

four fucking guys behind them go right into the house. Bro, one time, okay, listen. So I was buying a piano, you guys see the piano keyboard thing in my apartment? So I was buying it from some guy off Facebook Marketplace, right? And I'm obviously like, you better not be selling me a broken keyboard, whatever. So he pulls up to my apartment and he's like pulling it out. He's like, send me the money first. I'm like, no, idiot. I'm like, plug it in. I want to make sure that it works. I'm going to give you money until I know for a fact that this works.

And he's like, how do I know that you're not setting me up right now? And I'm like, huh? No, that's a real thing, though. Guys need that, yo. What are you talking about? I was so confused. I'm like, I'm by myself out.

at my apartment there's security cameras and a concierge what are you talking about he could be a set up ting no and he's like he was just like he ended up plugging it in for me doing whatever he's like so are you gonna send me the money or what like why are we whatever and I'm like okay hostile like this is not making me wanna buy it more I'm just trying to make sure this works first and I was like can you like bring all the things into the apartment not even into my unit just into the lobby and then he was like not until you sent it and I was like why he's like I could bring all this into here and four guys come beat me up right now and I'm like okay I don't know

What happened to you in your life? It's true. It's so true. KC, that's how naive I am to it. That I was like, me? No, it's not you. You're the babe. No, but I'm like, you're telling me, you think I have four guys with me right now ready to beat you up for a keyboard. For a keyboard. No, but it's not for a keyboard. It's for his identity. It's for whatever's in his wallet at the time. I was like, I don't need the keyboard that badly. Like, I promise I'm not...

setting you up for this keyboard. Yo, you'll be surprised how much that happens. Some people, their whole hustle is to rob Nance. See, I didn't get that. I just thought he was really stressing about this keyboard. I was like, okay, I'm not, I can buy him

Buy another keyboard. Wait, so what did you do? What happened? So then I just was like, okay, just everything works. Yeah, we're good. I just made him triple check everything for me. I made him let me touch it, play with it, la da da. And then I was like, okay, fine. And then I sent him the money. And then as soon as I sent him the money, he's like, suddenly his whole persona changes. Okay, I'm really sorry about that. I just have to make sure. Okay, let me grab everything for you. He got so annoyed.

I was like, yeah, it's fine. But Dan was like, what happened to you? Have you been set up? And he's like, you just never know. You just never know. I respect that guy. I respect it though. I respect it. No, that was the whole thing. I was like, what? I was like, I'm scared you're going to scam me and you think I'm going to get you beat up. I don't know what's going on right now. Because the reason is because when something looks too good or too safe...

it could be your trap see and then here's another time because you know let go i don't know if you had that yeah it's like a gg it's like a gg so me and my dad were trying to buy a phone we fought we saw a brand new like the newest iphone for like the lowest price and then the guy wasn't like you you know how you can confirm my iphone is real if they send you like the code on the settings yeah the guy was not sending us the code and then he asked us to meet at the back of a school and

And then my dad's like, let's just do it because it's like, if like nothing will happen, we just go. No, but my dad grew up in like, you know, Philippines. He doesn't really care. But so we meet them and then there's these guys that two guys come up. There's a guy behind us that he's like, yo, there's only two people. We see two more people come up behind us.

start tying their shoes. That's when my dad was like, okay, he's tying his shoes. He's getting ready to run. Yeah. All right, let's go. My mom starts recording them. They see, they leave. We're too tact. We're too tactical. But that shit happens. That shit happens, bro. No way that your dad clued that. Yeah, no, no. He's like, he clocked it immediately. Me, the whole time, I'm like, we're getting a brand new phone. Let's go. They're like, what?

So their plan was to rob you guys and then yeah damn And they had cars circling us to he bat my dad bag that - oh shit. Thank you See that right car operation operation. That's crazy. But good thing my dad's on that timing. I'm not so I know

No, they grew up in, like, the crazy times. That's how they get it. It's crazy because our parents, they have those survival skills that they need to give us. And it's not communicated. We're close. If we back it, if we don't... No, we're so naive. We're like... You know? Yo, I heard, too. There's, like, this new study. You know how we're so addicted to our phones and shit? Okay. And we all have what? We all have, like, anxiety. Yeah. So, apparently...

the reason we have all this anxiety because our brain isn't supposed to have that much information at that capacity it's like an overload of sensory overload too much you know you know about like a celebrity over there you don't even know her in person blah blah so if you think about it way back in the day

They would only know like the whole town. You know what I mean? They would just know, oh, that's the baker. That's the guy that does the lawn or whatever. It's just a nice community. But the moments you have like overloaded that shit, you're trying to keep track and trying to keep your survival instincts about every person. Mm-hmm.

You're right. So it's overloaded. And that's why I have anxiety. And did you see that thing about how like dating is so hard for us now because we weren't meant to see so many people? Yes. We weren't meant to. No, and like I think because now we see like the most attractive people and the most that like the people that are like

Average or like suddenly like not even average they're below average and the worst of the worst because we're so you seeing like really good-looking people and I've seen so many studies about how like we were not meant to see so many faces and then AI now - they're creating like such realistic like People bad so bad like it's so bad to the point where like you can just take a 10-second video of me and be able to put some other shit on top of it so scary it's so crazy I see that one of like people getting

the one of them like hugging their baby photos and stuff that shit tripped me out wait what like they were making AI videos of like you put like a baby photo of you next to like a normal photo of you and then like the AI would like make it like you're hugging your younger self no what I did see is if your parents died you would have an AI hugging yourself wait what like if they died and stuff you could just like put a picture on somebody else and they would hug you in the photo

Have you guys seen that stuff about how people think like all those AI like, you know, there's like the AI like baby maker. Like, yeah, like, yeah. People are saying that that whole thing is stealing your info notes so that they can make a child's corn. Yeah, there's been everyone's been saying that, that that's why all those things were going viral because they were trying to get like better adaptations of like that kind of.

People are so weird, man. Like, out of everything, like, such an innocent thing like that, you turn into that. We're just being like, I want to see what we see. Yeah, I want to see what my baby looks like. Boom. Red room. But would you go back, though? Would you want to go back to, like, society without the tech? Hey, guys, I have a confession. I have a problem, and...

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When you say society without tech, do you mean like us when we were kids or do you mean like even before that, like 1900, 1800? Okay, good example. How you're saying the problem is we know too much options in dating that it becomes a problem. Yeah.

Would you go back to where it was just, let's say like the 80s, 70s type of thing where you don't have all these options? You don't know all of these other people exist? I don't know if this is a hot take, but I want to say no. Like I want to say no. I'll say yeah. For dating? For dating wise? Yeah. You would say no.

i'd say no because i think with having so many options you're able to be more particular and find something that actually fits you whereas back then it was more of like you just settled for what was there because she doesn't really have an option i'm thinking like oh in the clubs it's not like this club like you'll go to club to find love and you'll actually fall in love that's true you know i mean okay that is true because now you're not finding love no way no no the bars is the last place to

find love you already have a track record of that person that you're gonna see cause you see them on Hinge or something and then now the value of or the idea of somebody going out is already thinking like oh if they're going out they're already ran they're doing all this shit but Baghdad is actually a movie you guys are in the middle like you guys don't know you guys don't know anything about each other you guys actually have to find out

You ever watch Back to the Future? No. You never watch? Okay, so in Back to the Future, what happens is he goes to the past and he accidentally stops his parents from meeting.

Okay. And he ends up in the position where his dad was supposed to be and his mom fell in love with him. Oh, shoot. Yeah, but he has to obviously reverse it and put the dad and put him in the position for it. That was in Teen Beach Movie 2. Yeah, that's where they took it from. It's Back to the Beach. Oh, is that where they got it from? Oh, damn. That's the OG is Back to the Beach. So do you think if you were back in time, you would be able to...

Let's say put your dad in position to meet your mom if you accidentally it up because you would have to know they're like they're Riz Court them did you guys parents have like a really cute like love story? It was at a like a party and then like really all in love type of thing. No way Yeah, like she just went up cold. It was like what's up? Like what are you guys doing? And then boom they just went from there. Oh wow my parents they met through um, it was like a debut Okay, so like a party

Yeah, it was um, so the Philippines or Filipinos we had this like celebration kind of like a quinceanera But when you turn 18 to 20, you would usually have this thing called a debut and you have 20 candle or 18 candles and then 20 roses and then 20 guys and like that's the hot spot for Filipinos if you want to meet people Yeah, because you do like dances and stuff. You have to do her rehearsals this and that right my mom was

the coordinator for the dancing. Okay. And your dad was what? And my dad was, no, my dad was the brother of the main, I guess, Rose. Don't tell me she thought he was cute so she set herself up with him. No. No, they were just partnered for it, for like the dance thing. Yeah. So it was like my uncle and his, my uncle's friend was my mom's cousin. Oh,

and then they just fell in love with it and every time i asked my dad before he said your mom fell in love with my dancing skills and he would do this that so makes sense for that to be your dad like that's so carlos's dad like of course that's your dad okay hot not hot take i feel like this is a really realistic take okay i think the best way to meet someone is mutual friends like i think that

to do the best way to like meet the love of your life mutual friends because you already kind of have a pre-stamp of approval you can already ask them so many questions like if what do you guys set me up with someone I could get like oh I was like okay well I like Carlos and Gavin so if they like like this guy he must be somewhat decent I disagree though I disagree you don't think that I think high key it's the worst

Why? Other than it messes up friendships. That's exactly why. We've been through that stuff. But if it doesn't mess it up, what if that's your soulmate? That's the worst. And then, Carlos, you're in my wedding party. You're one of the groomsmen because of my husband. No. Okay, hear me out. We've been through that. When it's mutual friends, there's too much complications. Especially if there's... Even if there's a fight. Even if there's a fight. Complications. Complications. You're...

Whoever you introduce into the friend group is now fighting or like choosing sides. Choosing sides. Choosing sides. Did you guys have a lot of experience with this? When me and my ex broke up, it literally was like, Carlos shows me all the man's toe thing. We would have had a different podcast. Yeah, we would have had a different podcast. We would have been the... We would have had like a group pod. Yeah, we would have had a group pod. Oh my gosh. And yo, I had the idea for the podcast like...

way before jumper jump we just never did it yeah but we did it you always have really good ideas and you just don't execute them fast no that's because uh he was ready to do it but a lot of people weren't so he didn't go through with it but if it's my style what are you guys doing look what they're doing oh my god sorry guys yeah that's a good take though like mutual friends because it's like yeah it's just a if it works it's really good like that's perfect but but it is kind of weird because it's like

I would opt not to. I would opt to not have any connection with everybody else. But I just think it's just you can ask the questions. You can figure out if this is a good fit for you, la-da-da, without like, you know? I think that's bad, too. You know why? Why? Because they all have their personal issues about that person, too. Like a bias?

They have biases, yo. They have biases. Especially, let's say it's a friend group with lots of other females. Yeah. Let's say they secretly have a thing for that person. Yo, you're right. They'll be like, nah. You know what I mean? There'll be some murmurs and that shit. Yeah. Have you ever been in that situation? Like, friend group breaking up just because thing? I was never the one. Yeah. But I've seen it happen. It does affect the friendship for sure. It affects the group. But I just think, like...

I don't know. I would never just like a random guy wanting to like, let's say,

Like get my number, la-da-da. And I don't know this guy. I met him at the bars. Most likely I'm probably not going to want to give it to him, whatever. But if I'm like, let's say y'all had a party. Some guys are like, oh, I'm really good boys with Carlos and Gavin. I'd be like, okay, guards it down a little bit because I'm like, okay, I trust these guys. So he's probably a decent guy. Then there's like room for me to converse with them, get to know them. I'm like, oh, wait, I vibe with this guy. I talk to you guys. I'd be like, yo, so what's up with him? What's he like? La-da-da. You guys would talk to me. There you go. Look how easy that is.

You had really good advice for me too because it's like when you're in a relationship, when do you guys go on that big first vacation? Because if you do it too early and you go back to that place, now you're only thinking of that person. So I really waited. I was like, I can't mess up Hawaii because if anything happens, if anything happens, like the vacation goes bad, I'm only going to remember Hawaii for that. You know what I mean? Do you guys think

trips can like make or break a relationship no it can make just not even relationship friendships oh yeah you learn one million you learn so much traveling with a person yep because you see you know how people have like social batteries and so yes and like at home habits like you see all those yeah yeah what do you think what do you think my my social battery is or like my at home habit is at home mine is

Or am I just open? Like something you just learned about him once you- Nothing really is nothing. I'm literally the exact same right? Yes, the exact same. My cleanliness, lowkey. No, no, no. His attention.

His attention. What do you mean? Is it low? It's low, huh? Yeah. He doesn't pay attention to anything? No, his attention. Like, sometimes if you focus on one thing, big eyes on one thing, and then, like, you won't even hear what was going on. That's Gavin Corden. Gavin Corden. Very emoji. Yo, people were commenting. That's real, though. You are still emojis.

You're so emoji. Yo, it's ours, right? You're so emoji. You're so emoji. That's not a bad thing, though. That's just your expression. No, that is a good thing. That's a very good way to be. It means you're not like boring and lame. I love those people that like when you're like,

If you were like filming them, like everything you say, they're having a reaction. That's fun. Without them even saying anything, you know how they feel about what you just said. Yeah, that's fun. Yeah, right? That's the way to be. I don't want to have a friend that's like monotone and shit. Monotone sucks. Those are so lame. I hate monotone people. Like if I'm looking for...

Let's say somebody that I want to introduce to my friend group. Oh, yeah. Since our friend group is pretty much like characters. It's loud, too. You guys are all characters. Yeah, we're all characters. Because if I introduce someone to the group and then they're not a character, then it's just going to be like...

yo, so what do you bring to the table? No, and sometimes I'm like, I get it. Most people, it's like they have a character. It's just like you have to give them a second to open up. But I'm like, do it now. I want to see it. Do it now. Yeah. But...

I look you I only really want to like mess with people that are just open from the jump. Yeah, right these days Yeah, no who has the energy to like sit there and be like, okay, we got through one layer. No. Yeah. Yeah another one Okay, six ones. Okay another one. That's big time. I think we're at that age - it's like we kind of have our core people Yeah, well, it's like if you if I want to put someone new in my life It's like because you're so amazing and you're like Yeah, do you think you would be friends?

Would you be friends with your mom if you're your mom's age right now? No. I mean, your mom was your age. No, my mom and I would not get along. You think so? She's so traditional. Like, I know she would like talk shit about me. Really? No, she's the most traditional woman on earth. She also, love her, mom, it's not your fault. You grew up in the tides. She just has really like sexist opinions and stuff. Like, some of the

So, okay, it's just mindset thing. No, like, I'm just like, we so don't think of things the same, like, whatever. Like, she's always, like, on me being like, when are you going to meet someone? When are you going to get married? When are you doing all this? I'm like, mom. Damn, really? Yes. And I'm like, mom, please, like, give me space. But I'm like, if I met the right person, like, yeah, sure, I would get into that. But I'm like, the right person isn't around. And then she's like, you girls are the problem. You girls are the ones that are hard for the guys to date. That's why everyone's... Damn, yo, your mom's...

Okay, love you mom. I do. Okay, no shades you. But like... No, it's very low. We have to blur that out. Mikaela, blur that out. But she'll be like, you girls are the problem. Like, I see how it is for the guys. This is why all the guys are just marrying the girls from back home and just immigrating them over because you girls are all... And I'm like, mom, please, I can't. Oh my God, how are you going to get me canceled? Please.

I think I would be friends with my dad low-key. Yeah. I think I would. I probably would, too. But he would be, like, the cool version, and I would be the scared version that would tag along with him doing the cool shit. Really? Yeah? 100%. So you think you take your cool traits from your dad? Yeah, yeah. I don't... My mom, probably, I don't know. Just sports, genetics, but yeah. Do you think you take more from your parents or more from your friends, though? Oh, fuck. Parents. I think so much of our personalities are, like,

because they raised us bro they literally we were play-doh and they shaped us like and then it's like when you get to a certain age it's your choice to like work on getting rid of the things that you don't like that they shaped you into but if you don't you kind of just stay as what they made you out to be what was your favorite like tv show back in the day like cartoon yeah i really like pokemon i was such a pokemon yeah okay okay um

What else did I like? What did you guys like? No, because the reason I asked that is because it could be your friends. Honestly, it's a mix of all. So it's literally your friends, your parents, and the cartoons that you grew up on. Teletubbies. I apparently really love Teletubbies. Yeah, you give Teletubbies energy. Especially with the purple on. What does that even mean? What's the name again? It's like something... Tinky Pinky or something? Yeah, Tinky Pinky. Tinky Doo. Yo. Yo.

I literally have at-home videos of me scream crying because the VCR ran out of Teletubbies and I'm screaming. My mom's like, give me one second just to rewind. You ever see those TikToks of there's this guy and he goes into an elevator and he just starts saying nonsense. He just goes, wait, wait, wait. Oh, to random people. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Do you think you have the confidence to just do that in public? No, never. I know you've been doing that. You've been doing, what is it? Exposure therapy? Oh, this is the craziest one. We were at the beach and there was people running, you know the run clubs? Yeah, yeah. And then so we're just talking. Carlos looks over. He's like, yo, they're going at a crazy pace. Starts running with them. I want to see if I can run with them. Runs with them.

I'm like no this is exposure that he's tired of probably doing before yeah, I was in your normal outfit with like Yeezy They're all in running gear, but you see one guy just like this baggy pants like the most cartoon shit ever And I run funniest book my yeah, my legs go out like this But you guys ever see that movie yes, man. Yes, man. No, I

So there's this movie called Yes Man and pretty much like he was a bah humbug type of person his whole life right and nothing good was happening to him he worked at a bank and he was just like a lone person like ah fuck I hate my job this and that

Until one day he met his coworker and his coworker was one of those friends that has broken the matrix type of thing where he left that job and he's like super happy. He's living a great life, right? Fantastic life. And he just seems very energetic. He's wondering like, yo, how did you change? You were like worse than me. He said, I went to this seminar and I learned how to say yes. So,

So the concept of Yes Man is you say yes to every single opportunity that you're faced with. Even if it's bad? Even if you're scared of it. Oh, that's a good... So in the movie, he would be faced with emails, even just random shit. Do you want to sign up for a yoga class? Yes. Do you want to try singing? Yes. Do you want to go to this concert? Yes. So every single motive, every single opportunity to do something, every single person that came up to him, he would just say yes.

And he became, like, a totally different person. And that's how he found, like, the love of his life and shit. Wow. Good-ass movie. Have you guys seen that thing? I think it was, like, something from, like, a religious TikTok I saw. But it was, like, if you...

agreed to plans or if you agreed to something and then randomly like the day of you're suddenly getting the urge to not go or like something is making you be like oh I shouldn't go she was like that's the devil trying to hold you back from something like great happening to you so yeah it was just one girl talking about it but I was like that's

because she was like, something really good from God is coming from you and the devil's trying to make you not go. So if you already agreed to something and you randomly are getting the urge to not go, it's because something really great is going to come from it. So you need to do it. So it's kind of like that. Yeah, I heard something similar because if you think about it,

the devil works in fear and anxiety. I didn't know that actually. So every time you feel fear or feel anxiety, you're worshiping the devil. Because to worship God is to have faith and have faith that you're blessed and you're good. You'll be good. You're protected. But those little things, the little inklings that make you feel, oh man, am I right here? That's the devil right there. What genre is that? The

The movie you're talking about like it's a comedy. It can't be like big it has to be an indie movie, right? Oh, that's that's I've never heard of them. Oh When you're we the Chanel when you're explaining it I was like wait, I feel like you recognize it. Yeah, no that I feel like I remember it being a really good movie What was the one that you were saying the blink? What is that? I don't want to spoil it because it's a really big plot twist, but it's a really good movie but what's the premise I

I literally can't say anything without spoiling it. Because I really don't want to. And I know you're really into big podcasts. Yeah, I'm really into podcasts. I'll save a podcast after I watch it. But guys, if you haven't, go watch it. But please look at the trigger warnings before you do watch it. Oh, it's triggering. There's trigger warnings? Yes, and they're getting a lot of backlash right now because they don't give you explicit trigger warnings.

When you guys watch it, you'll see. They like, you'll see. I mean, it's directed by Zoe Kravitz. Yeah, I met them or whatever. Wait, I see? Yeah. Is she cool? Yeah, no, nicest people ever. Like literally so nice, yeah. What's Channing Tatum? Channing Tatum's cool? You met him too? No, literally, I was just like looking at him. I was like, don't you know him on top of the street? What is he doing?

Yo, McLovin came to Fan Expo. I wanted to get a picture with McLovin. You did it? Yo, because the line was so long. I was just trying to wait. Oh my gosh, that's crazy. I would have waited in that line. I know. But there was something I really wanted to do. I didn't get a chance to do it. I was so mad at myself I didn't do it. What I was going to do, I was going to print out the driver's license and have him to sign it. That would have been fire. Oh my gosh. What was his name? Like Muhammad McLovin or something?

Why wouldn't you choose a normal name? Muhammad's the most popular name in the world. Okay, have you bagged though? Almost every comedy...

Nowadays, it doesn't hit the same as old ones. Why is that? Like, if you look at Superbad, 21 Jump Street. Because of the sensitivity stuff, the way everything's so sensitive and everyone has to be careful that they're not getting canceled. I literally just watched the 21 and 22 Jump Street movies again the other day once I came back from London because I was just like, Channing Tatum, 21 Jump Street, I want to watch it.

So I was watching it and I was just every time I was watching it with someone and we kept pointing out like every time I'd be like they'd get cancelled for this now, they'd get cancelled for this. Like there's so many jokes that they just can't make anymore so it's like not, they're not as good, you know? Okay, I have a theory for you guys. Okay. So are you guys familiar with Terminator? Terminator, yeah.

Do you know Terminator? I do, but not that well. I'll explain. So pretty much there's this thing called Skynet. And what happens is AI takes over the world. Wait, back then they were already having this stuff? Yeah, this is like in the 90s they made this movie. Damn, AI's bitch. Maybe even like 80s. Has there been a thing like that since back then? Yeah. So they had this concept that AI would take over the entire world. And what would they try to do? They would try to perfect the world.

Meaning, they would take out what's not perfect. And what's not perfect is humans. So the whole world would be like robots. They would kill all humans and just make like a whole robot society. All AI. Now, theory is though that they...

They weren't meaning to do that exactly. What they wanted was to give humans, because it becomes an apocalypse. Like, humans are dying everywhere. Humans are trying to fight back against the robots. There's a whole war. Were they losing? And yeah, they're losing bad. They're losing bad. But the theory was that what they actually wanted from the humans was for them to fight back and was for them to work together against a common enemy. Oh.

And after all of the dust settles and all of the terrible tragedies happen, humans will finally learn from their mistakes. And learn that they need to work together. Because that's what it would take would be a common enemy. That's crazy. If you think about it. That's inaccurate. And they're like, yeah, we have to kill a bunch of you guys to get the point across, but...

Hear us out. It was better in the future. Yeah, so, and then if you think about it, that goes with even technology. Like, yeah, we utilize it, but we could survive without it. It's not a necessity. It's, if anything, do you think, like, high key, I kind of agree with it. We are over excessive with shit that we consume.

Oh, 1000%. And it's kind of wasteful and it's not necessary. Even as influencers, we see it. The amount of stuff we get for free, I'm like, I don't even need all this. I don't need all this stuff. Half the time, actually, I'm not even going to say this. I'm very grateful and I'm very blessed for it, but yeah. No, I'm very grateful, but I'm just like, damn, this is overconfident. I get exactly what you mean, though. Yeah, I know exactly what you're saying. But keep sending us shit, you know? I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it.

All my cousins in the Philippines have the most random shit. Every single one of my friends, every single one of my family members, you are getting your cleansers, your shampoo, you're getting everything. Keep sending it to us, please. Fuck.

It is overkill. We're actually such a... Yo, we're actually the product. That's hyper-hypercritical of us. I know. We're trying not to overkill, but we're the problem. Yeah, we're the problem. But hear us out. We technically don't buy as much stuff because we keep getting... Yeah, we get sent stuff. That's true. We don't support capitalism, so...

No, that's a word of capital. Double down on your capitalism. Actually, we're robbing capitalism. That's triple double down, fam. You're promoting it. You're consuming it. And you give me the word. What is it? Word of mouthing it to other people by giving. Oh, my God. Okay, our bad. Sorry, we tried. This is our attempt at saving. Okay, now the theory extends, though. And it says that that ending is actually inevitable.

Which is fucked. Wait, what's the ending again? That AI takes over. And because the struggle between AI and human, that's not promised. That's like AI could win. Yeah.

I mean, humans might actually lose. It's actually so scary, too, because I feel like AI, like, literally, like, within the last year just randomly got bigger. Yeah, big. And it was, like, they were saying it's because they used AI to, like, make AI better. And they just using AI to make their AI better. And I'm like, that's terrifying. Because how has it not even been a year? And it's already, like... I used... Bro, I use ChatGPT for everything. Like, I don't even use Google anymore. I know. Like, whenever I'm, like, feeling sick, I'm like, these are my symptoms. What do you think it could be? I sent it to ChatGPT. I literally...

Because like it, instead of having to click 17,000 links, ChatGPT looks at all the links for you and then gives you a little paragraph on exactly what you need to know. There was a jokes video where there was a robot and the guy was like, oh, AI, are you smart enough to make yourself? And then AI is like, this is what I know is fucked because it did sarcasm. What did it say? So it said, AI is just a tool for you humans. There's no way I can make money. And then it looked at the camera like this.

There's no way I can make myself. Oh my God, bro. Not a side eye in the camera. I don't even know where the camera was. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. But there's another one in the cooking video where it stuttered. So like, yo, that's kind of weird. What do you mean stutter? You're AI. No, no, no. Because it's thinking. Yeah. They programmed AI to be more human. So they added um, buts. Why are they doing that? Don't do that. To trick us more. To make it more realistic. Yeah.

Yo, they AI'd me and then made me say like, um, but, shit like that. Yeah, no, I've known you. Yeah, the AI's of Carlos now is, you ever hear a theory? Once upon a time, there was a but, um, yeah, they literally add filler words and shit. Damn. So now it actually thinks like it's, you're, it's a human. Okay, so this is what scares me though, right? And this is what gives me bare anxiety thinking about it is, is that the future of life on earth?

Not in our lifetime, I don't think. So we're fine. I know, I know. But if you bag it, it's like that's supposed to be the future of life, which is fucked up to think about. I'm getting anxiety now. You get what I'm saying, though? Because in a sense, whatever primates came before us through evolution or whatever, maybe, right? The Denisovans and all of these different Neanderthals became humans, right? And then we gave life to even, yo, we breeded some dogs which now exist as that breed of puppies.

A pug didn't fucking exist until a human decided to put this and this and this. Didn't like winter dogs not exist? Yeah, like hella dogs did not exist until humans like domesticated them, breeded them. Yo, they were all wolves. They were all wolves and foxes until we domesticated them. And then we mixed them all until they slowly became like a puppy. Literally. A pug. So check this out. Is the next form of life going to be AI and just that's what life is?

Always thought it was gonna be like Futurama like where we're all aliens like are we animals? Oh animals alien creatures and stuff. Oh, yeah, there is Like there's like mixes of like human and like fish in that show like that kind of stuff. I'm like you is that what we're bestiality? Like

I've seen videos of men doing that to chickens and stuff. Ew. I know. Bro, I've seen a scientist create a sponge and combine a sponge with a mouse.

Did it live? Wait, what? Like, they put, like, the DNA, like, or, like, products of a sponge and a mouse, and it came out, like, a mouse with half of its body as a sponge. That's BAI. No, no, like, it was, like, in a side, like, it's one of those Russian guys. What the fuck? That are creating just random shit. No, but imagine being that thing that gets created. I know, it's like, yo, look, you look behind you, like, why the fuck am I a sponge? What the fuck?

That was the whole premise of like Guardians of the Galaxy. What? You guys don't watch that either? No. You guys don't watch movies, right? No, I don't watch movies. Okay, Guardians of the Galaxy, there's this character named Rocket Raccoon. Oh yeah, that guy, yeah. He's half human, half raccoon. But his whole thing was like, he thought he was a monster. Because if you think about it,

yeah that's that's tough though yeah to think about like if obviously we're created by god and we're blessed right but some people they think of themselves oh i was born through trauma and i was born through like terrible things and i shouldn't be this yeah that's tough to think about them and that's a real like issue some people face and when i saw that in grinds the galaxy i'm like yo he's not talking about him being

a half robot half raccoon he's literally talking about him being am i supposed to be living am i supposed to be here so say him saying with a serious no i think he's half he's half robot half raccoon like i'm supposed to be like yeah and not laugh yo you know what's if you bag it like almost everything in the media

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Yeah, yeah. How wild is that sentence? Yeah. No, you're so right. But it's regular. It's regular to us. It's regular to us. SpongeBob SquarePants. No, you're so right. That's so regular to us. But what the fuck? Like, if we were to make something right now, um, um,

Jessica, the toilet plunger. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, but that would be a thing. That would be a thing if it was actually popular. Even Teletubbies. What does that even mean? Yeah, Teletubbies is a weird one too. But it becomes regular because of the marketing. There was this game. I don't know if you know about it, but some guys that are part of a cult hack the game so whenever people are playing it, they can join their cult. It's a side mission that they added. That's crazy. And guess what it's about? What? It's Kanye West game. What?

Wait, what? So it's called Kanye Quest 3030. And it's like, I think two years after they added it to the game. And when you go into like the mission, you go and talk to a random NPC. It's like, what do you want to do? And then it gives you six letters that you have to type in. It says, and you have to type in Ascend. And the cult name is Ascensionism.

So after in the game, it teleports you to a random side mission. You complete that side mission. After, it tells you, do you guys want to close the game? Or do you want consent for all your personal belongings and you? But it's in the game though. Yeah, it's in the game. So if you choose yes, they ask your name, your address. Boom, you're added to the cult.

Yo, that's wild. Straight off a Kanye whiskey. That's going to be like dark web shit though. No, it's not. It's like on the internet, but like you have to do the side mission to do it. Imagine like St. West playing that game on like Roblox. Like my dad's game. A cult. What?

Yo, did you hear what happened to him? What? So, apparently, did you hear about this story? How he found the Kim tape through Roblox? Yeah. No, it wasn't. He didn't find the actual tape, but it was just like, he couldn't like understand, but it was like a picture of his mom like crying and it was like, the game was called like, Kim's Tape Number Two. Oh, that's insane. It was like new leaked Kim tape and Saint's like, I found mom on Roblox. And then Kim's like reading that. She was like, I'm going to sue them. And he's like, what? Like, he's,

- I'm so confused. - That's crazy. - But it was just like a game. There was actually nothing there. - Oh, there's nothing there. - He went into it and it wasn't like the tape was not on Roblox. - It was just like a joke. - It was just like a joke game. - I see. - But like Saint was like, "Oh my God, huge." She's like, "I'm literally gonna sue Roblox." - Oh my gosh. - She was crazy. - I wonder what age they're gonna find out about that stuff. - I feel like they know. - I feel like they know. - I feel like only North would know if she does.

But does she even know what that is? If you're on the internet, as soon as they get on the internet, I feel like they would know. I think they probably had like a talk. Yeah. You think? Yeah, I think so. I mean, that's what I would do at least. Like you have to prep your, if you're in that type of spotlight, you might have to prep your kids. Yeah, damn. Yeah. Do you hear what happened with the schoolboy9 guy? Oh,

Oh, I heard about that and somebody told me to talk about that. I don't know what happened though. I didn't research it. So there's this guy. He goes by the name Schoolboy9. And he's a TikToker. But he's posting this crazy shit. He pretty much wears like a mask to make him look like a child. Search it up right now. Oh, I don't have TikTok. No, no, just Google it or like put it on YouTube or whatever. But he wears a face mask to make himself look like a boy. Wears boys clothing.

Yo, it's straight up nightmare fuel though. It's like, it's dark web content, but it's on TikTok. What is that? It's a guy. He's like middle aged. And what he does, he lurks around elementary schools.

and pretends he's a kid and pretends he's going to school and now apparently there's a case that he's been stalking a little yeah he's been stalking some kids that go to a certain Elementary School and supposedly there's a hacker yeah that's on the hunt for him because he has some information that he might be doing some things to the kids probably look at his content like yeah yeah I was gonna say

a predator so this hacker is taking upon himself to find his address he knows the address and he's gonna you know he's gonna try to do something to the guy as he should apparently he lives like like really close to the school too which is fucked up that's so scary he's so sick in the mind by doing that but what do you do if you see somebody on the street like that though like dressed like that

Listen, I'm not trying to get killed. So I'm going to have to not. And I feel like that's a normal reaction. That's why nobody. Nobody's going to do it. Nobody's going to like handle it. It's the bystander effect. Yeah. The bystander effect. And you know what they say like Toronto in specific is really bad. Really bad. Yeah. We don't do anything, bro. We're so desensitized to everything. I know. That we don't say anything. We don't do anything. Definitely every big city is like that. Yeah.

It's crazy. But for me, guys, as a girl, it's different because I can't, I'm scared of him. Like he could do something to me. Like you guys could say something. You could jump him. Yeah. You could jumpers jump him. Jumpers really do jump. Jumpers jump. Am I right? They will jump. Yeah.

The thing is, if I actually see him, I don't know what to do. I would take a picture and send it to the police, probably. But I'm not going near that guy. What's the crime? If he is following kids, yeah, that's a crime. Is that even a crime, though? Yeah, to look weird and do that questionable content. Is that a crime? Nah, right? No, you're just weird, but...

I just think no one sane is doing that kind of stuff. Nobody sane is doing that shit. So he's probably doing some crazy shit underneath. If that's what he's doing in front of us, imagine what he's doing without us seeing. Imagine his internet history.

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Imagine this is all just for jokes. He's so rich that he's just bored and he has to do this. It's Jimmy Kimmel under his eyes. It's a prank. But I've seen that shit too. It's like, if you're that rich, like, you know how celebrities get in spotlight. Boom, automatically they get the weird thoughts of like, let me go do something really weird. Like,

sexually assault someone. You know what I mean? No, because they lose the thrill for certain things unless they look for new thrills. Have you guys been seeing that stuff about like rage bait though? No, what is that? Where it's basically like people now on the internet are doing things that will purposely like piss off everyone in the comments because it like gets them views and stuff. Oh, really? So they'll do things that they know will like, like,

Like, so, like, stuff like that. He knows he's just going to get negative comments, but they do it on purpose because the more negative comments they get, the more, like, viral it gets. Oh, that's like clip farming. Yeah, yeah. That's like that. But clip farming is, like, positive, but rage bait is, like, the purpose to... Rage bait to make it mad. Yeah, make you mad and, like, make you pissed off. Yeah. Like, I saw this video of...

It was this girl, this woman who was basically trying to tell this other girl, like, can you please switch seats with me? Because my daughter, she's like sitting in the middle seat here. I really want to switch or whatever. And her seat was like a bunch of rows back. And the girl was like, no offense. No, like, I'm not switching with you. I'm fine up here. Sorry. Like, if you want to sit with your daughter, like whatever. And it was this whole thing. And then this mom starts like.

physically assaulting the other woman and like gets kicked off the plane it was a rage bait video I was watching it being like oh my god but then somebody was like like um this plane is a set like you can tell because why are all the windows closed damn so they only did that for a video yes like they'll like rent out this little space to like

Do all that. That's just like the Stanley Cup theory I was talking about. I guess, yeah. It could be tied to a marketing. So there's this theory how, you know, the Stanley Cup, it was a whole trend. And it started because there's one video. This is literally just the last episode I was talking about. But there's this one video, a girl left her Stanley Cup in a car.

It burns up on fire. That's what made it viral and everybody wanted to see it. I remember that video so good. They like bought her a new car and stuff and everything. So that whole thing was set up. That was, yeah. That wasn't real? That was marketing. Are you sure? Yeah, it was marketing.

That wasn't real. Yeah, it was staged. So that didn't actually happen. Then that's what I'm saying is like it's rage bait in the sense of we're so attracted to a setting like that, especially when it feels real. I remember that video so well thinking, damn, Stanley really ate. They really ate. What the fuck? Shane Dawson, he pretty much tested it in real life. Put a Stanley cup, put ice in it, everything. Put it next to a fire. Not even for as long as how they claimed the car was on fire for. Shit was melted, yo. Really?

- Really? - Yeah. - Crazy. - That is crazy. What the hell? - And that's how we're tricked. - I'm not gonna lie, they're really smart. Whoever came up with that deserved a raise. - That's why Theory, Theory. - Allegedly. - Allegedly. - Yeah, Allegedly. Theory, the Madeline Klein Central City thing. - Oh yeah, I know that's fake. - Do you think Madeline knew?

She's in on it. You think she's in on it? Yeah, I think they're still dating. You think? That's a theory I have. I have a theory they're still dating. I don't think she knew. I think the other two knew. Just because the way she was talking about it, I was like, yeah, I feel you. They definitely accounted for that, the marketing. But everybody ate, though. Everybody knew. Like 30 mil on every video that Madeline was putting up after that drama. Yo, they ate so hard. Yeah, everybody ate. In that scenario, everybody ate.

Everyone got poppin' from it. I think I Spy got the short end of the stick, though. She did. She still got poppin', but everybody hates her now. Also, did you see the recent beef she has with Cleopatra? Cleopatra?

Cleopatra? No. This artist was like, it was like her friend that, she's like a smaller artist. Oh, the black girl that she's always with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she was, so Ice Spice like told her like, oh, come on tour with me, like whatever. And then I guess she agreed to it. I don't know exactly what happened, but apparently Ice Spice was so rude to her, didn't feed her, like didn't do anything, like wouldn't let Ice Spice's security help her with things. Like she was like, and then like Cleopatra would be like, I'll literally like pay him then, like how much is it? She's like, no, like I pay a flat rate.

So as in like, he'll do whatever I spice wants, but she just didn't want him to like help clear patch or whatever. So it's been this whole thing now. And like,

I don't know the exact details of it so don't take my full word on it but it was just like along the lines of like and they were like friends before they were like famous like before Ice Spice was famous like they were such good friends and now Cleopatra's saying like you stole my entire style like when you first came up you were just wearing like tight clothes and like air forces and now suddenly you're like in skirts and boots and all that and that's all my style like you're taking everything and she was like I let you have that because like you were my friend like I didn't really care but now that we're not friends like you took everything from me so like

change it up, like, wear something else, like, do your other shit. Damn. That's why you have to be careful who, like, you do your business with because, like, the thing we said is, like, the thing that will separate us is either money, greed, or thing, or whatever it was. Mm-hmm.

Money, greed. Money is so true. And that's always the case. So it's like, we always have to be tacked on that. Yeah, yeah. That's something we never care about. We literally never care about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the last thing we care about. Because that's the only thing that could really break Jon Bergeron. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, that's so true. If you think about it, that's what usually breaks bands. That's what usually breaks literally the biggest friendships, even relationships. Even like the Call Her Daddy podcast, the reason why they broke up was over contractual money issues. That one was f***ed up because the one girl...

She thought they're worth more or something. But Alex Cooper's like, nah, yo, this is good. Like, we should be grateful. This is a good-ass deal. But she wanted more and more and more. That was greedy. So Alex Cooper said, you know what? I'm going to take this deal because this is an amazing deal. Say goodbye. And then look at Alex Cooper now. Yeah, look at her now. That's what happened.

god i've seen the tours that she's doing no i went me and brie oh you actually went we went to the toronto show bro like i knew she was famous obviously i knew she was big like her the scream when she walked out was like like you would have thought it was like taylor stuff kind of like it was that like her fan base is so like strong and afterwards like during the show she like walked through the crowd and like i actually like held one of the girls hands after the show this girl is

like on the floor sobbing. Wow. Being like, I can't believe she like touched my hand. Wow. I was like, I didn't know it was like that. I mean, I was at Scarborough Town Center one time. Kids were screaming my name. So like...

The thing that happened in Mexico Ride where you go up and like the ride goes like this and it swings I

So it goes up and then you just rotate. It's like a swing of the century. In Mexico, there was literally a storm. And there was a video, they were already up. The camera angle was so crazy because when the people looked down, it looked so high up. So imagine you're in a full storm and they're not bringing you down.

So you're just up there and you're you're just canceling with the wind and you don't have nothing to hold you except your No, no, don't like not protect I don't do no rides, especially the I'm not risking my life Fair ride it cuz what do you mean you brought it in and you just like set it up there like okay? Canada's one of them sure you guys For a weekend

What do you mean? Yo, you know that one? I think it's called Himalaya. It goes like this. Yo, there's a video of that shit I saw online. And it starts going like this? Yes. Oh my God. Yo, it was.

crazy that's crazy no but i realized we're getting older when i went to i went to six bikes and back in the day canada was one of it i would get the um the fast fast lane pass yeah just keep going i literally would go on like leviathan like seven times in a row i want a behemoth eight times in a row i just be like yeah i can i have the fast way i'm gonna go again i don't care yeah so i used to do that all day and then maybe around like from let's say from 10 a.m until like

9pm. Around 9 is when I'm like, okay, I'm feeling a little bit sick. I'm done. I'm good. All day after doing literally 30,000 rides. I go to Six Flags. I did 8 rides, okay? Not even on some fast lane shit. Just 8 rides and I was like, I gotta go home. I can't do this. 8 rides is still crazy. 8 rides is kind of good though. But that was me pushing it. It was around 5 rides and I was like, damn. That's my limit. I can't. But I was like, we paid so much money for this. I was like, okay, let me keep going. After ride 8, I was like, I might

die if I go on another ride. And we went home. I was like, damn, we're old. No, Carlos, last time we went to Canada's Wonderland, he's like, yo, I'm done after this ride. You guys can go have fun. I already had my taste of all this when I was a kid. You guys can do that shit. Yeah, because I did it all already. I don't need to do that now. I used to literally go on Leviathan eight times in a row and I'd be like, let's go to Behemoth next. Now, eight rides, I'm like, I gotta go home. I can't be here anymore. I'm gonna die. I need to go home. Motion sickness, dog. Motion sickness, bro.

What do you mean? Like, we're old. Yeah. You know what I think it is too? I heard it's because we're so focused at shit. You know what I mean? Like, nowadays we don't, if you're not everyday using those type of senses, for example, like high motion or high adrenaline, when you put yourself in that after years of not doing it,

What happens? Your body's not used to it. It kind of cooks you up. That's so true. And as kids, what we're always doing, running around on bikes. Running around. Spinning and shit. Yo, I used to do this like every day. No, you know what I used to do? Randomly? No, I used to deadass do that. I used to go like this every day.

Carlos stop you're giving me motion sickness doing that please. What was the circle thing that you were gonna say? No, I um when I was younger the shit I would do bro I don't how did I not die like we my friend and I you do you guys remember those wagons that like um your parents would like pull you around in them those like big oh yeah the green ones yeah yeah yeah like those plastic ones you just like spin it the little types yeah yeah little types yeah one time my cousin and I we were like maybe like eight or nine we went up this big ass hill and we both just sat in it and we were like oh shit

And not even halfway down. I want to say a fourth of the way down. That shit flips. We're flying. This wagon's on top of us. Literally, she ends up on like the one side of the hill. I'm at the other. I literally am like, did I die? Like, how did my neck not snap? And I like look at my friend and she's like...

Side of the hill. We're both just like on the ground. We look up at each other. We cannot stop laughing. I was like, what literally just happened? But like the stuff we did as kids, like we didn't care. Yeah, the stuff we did as kids, like nowadays. Do you guys remember crazy carpets? Like going down? Crazy. Oh, this one? Where you go down a slide? Like, um...

On snow mount? On the snow. It's a crazy car. You'd buy it from like Walmart. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Never mind. I don't want it. It's like a sled. It's like a plastic. Oh, okay, okay. That plastic mat you just like sit on. Those shits made you fly across the world. Yeah. Even worse than a sled. A sled can't be going like one way. Crazy car, but you were flying across that hill. Wow.

- You're slipping slides, yo. - Yeah, literally. - We're doing the craziest shit. - I don't think I ever told this on a podcast, but when we were young, I don't know why, but we would be attracted to danger, right? So there's like a park next to my house, and we would go play hide and seek in it, and then I remember one time, it was me and two of my other cousins, there was a guy walking through the park with an ax. - What the hell? - Like at night, like almost midnight, and we were like, "Yo, let's see how close we can get," and stuff like that. But back then, like you never know who the fuck

That is. He's in the Goonies, bro. We're like, yo, let's pick up sticks just in case he tries to run with us. Oh, I love those, though. I love the pretending and stuff. Yeah, but we would have ended up on a true crime case if we got any closer. You know what? In my hometown, there was this park I used to play at. It was near my preschool. It was kind of in the hood ends of the city. It was not the good ends of the city. But

There was this park I used to play at all the time. Literally the first park I remember going to as a kid. And after being at my preschool, we'd always go to the park and hang out or whatever. And then randomly we stopped going there. And I was just like, why? My mom would never tell me why. And then I grew up and she told me...

Some kids were playing in the park and like their ball like went in the forest or something. Yeah. And then they, one of the kids was like trying to find their ball, whatever. They found like a chopped up woman in the park. Yeah. Wait, where was this? In Guelph, like the hood ends of Guelph. Yeah. And it was like this whole thing. That's why everyone stopped taking their kids to that park because a girl, like someone

- The kid found? - It was like an eight year old, nine year old or something. But they were like looking for their ball or whatever and then they found the body. And it was like a whole thing. - That's crazy. Was that on the news like a true crime? 'Cause that's a true crime case. - I think, I don't know the details. Again, I was too young to know it. My mom didn't tell me until I was a bit older. She was like, "Yeah, they found like a body in that park and that's why we stopped taking them there."

I was like damn. Yeah. Do you have a favorite like true crime case that you like always want to go to when you're eating and you're like on YouTube? The one, what's the one? I forget his name but the guy who like killed his wife and daughters and it was like because he low he wanted to be with this other girl. He shoved the kids in the oil. Oh yeah I know exactly. And he got haunted after. He got haunted? Yeah. Haunted or hunted? No haunted. Haunted.

By what? So this was a story about the guy. Like you said, he killed the wife and kids. Yeah. He like located another girlfriend. He wants to like restart his life with her. Yeah. But there was body cam footage from the police officer. They went to go check out his house and stuff, right? And then he's trying to explain like, oh yeah, like I haven't seen them for a long time. Walking through the house on the police cam footage, you see...

a little girl like head in one of the bedrooms and it like runs away yeah no it's real 100% real I'll show you the footage after but it's dead ass I forgot the name of the guy though I forget his name too but he doesn't even deserve for his name to be known like that but yeah but check this out it's even crazier because there's like subtle hints and it like ties into the case so he turned on the TV while the cops were there and you know how he put the kids and mom in oil right yeah

On the TV, right when he turned it on, it showed a baby in oil.

you're lying i swear you're lying there's no way i'll show you imagine no no no could you imagine being him knowing what he just did he turned on tv and that's what's on tv that's like it lines up it was like the universe being like we got you like you're whatever and even i what i loved was like everyone always said that the reason why he got caught was because of her best friend like the girl's best the mom's best friend because she knew her best friend so well that she walked in she's like

She would never leave without her medication. These are the shoes she would wear if she was going to work. Why are those shoes still here? She was on the footage. No, no. She was being like, she would never do this. She would never leave these things out. She would never just leave the house without her medicine. She knows she needs that. Because of that, they were able to track it down to him because there's so much shit that she was being like, I know her. She wouldn't have done that. She wouldn't have done this. She would have taken this with her. That's the detective right there. I remember someone said it was like, oh, it was Chris Watt?

Yeah, that's the one. That's his name, yeah. They were like, Chris Watt, because Chris Watt didn't love Shanann, that was his wife, because Chris Watt didn't love Shanann, he underestimated how much other people loved her. And because other people loved her so much, they were able to put so much stuff together to get him caught for doing what he did. Wait, so you said, so this is on TV, or this is the body cam?

This is the body cam of them looking around the house. Okay. And he's such a bad faker. He's such a bad actor. Yeah, I know. Sometimes really bad lies are so stupid. Yeah, he's such an idiot. He's like, yeah, I don't... Oh, my gosh. A baby? Where? Oh. I think it's here. I think it's here. So they're just looking through the thing. Hold on.

Oh there it is. You see it? Right there. Oh my god. Oh my god. Is that f*cked? Like it's like two or three people. No that's an arm. Yeah. But nobody's there. That's the ghost fam. Look see that's the woman looking for the kids. And she goes into the room. Wait time out. So that's a ghost? And she goes into the room. Yeah it's a ghost. I'm confused. Wait. So that. That's the ghost of like the kid. That's the ghost of the kid that died fam. Oh okay. I thought oh that's kind of weird. That's the ghost of the kid that died.

- God damn. - That's crazy. - And there's apparently, oh, it gets crazier. When he got sent to prison. - What happened? He still got haunted? Like the kid was in his cell? - He got sent to prison. He was begging the police and begging the judge to send him to like a mental asylum instead because he was being haunted at the prison. He said he was seeing ghosts, he was seeing demons, and he was seeing so much different shit. - Duh, bro. You killed your little infant kid and your wife.

And apparently like the the second daughter like she was like he like she literally watched him like suffocate her the phone Like and then she was like said something along the lines of like daddy. Are you gonna do that to me, too? No

And then, like, apparently the autopsy showed that the second one was fighting for her life. Like, the first one was too young, I'm pretty sure. So she was just kind of, like, unfortunately reacting to being suffocated. But the older one was, like, being like, daddy, no, please, like, don't do this, like, whatever. And he's still, like, and also the oil rig thing was, like, such a small thing that he had to, like, break their limbs to shove them in there. Yeah, it's so fucked up.

Where I'm like, yeah, you deserve to be haunted, bro. I'm sorry. What did you think was going to happen? Like, you could have just divorced Shanann and like, you could have just divorced her. Like, there you go. You did not need to murder her and the kids. Like, you really didn't have to do that. It's crazy. Yeah. I have a question for you. Yeah. Let's say somebody did you really, really dirty. For example, like an ex or whatever. Would you, if you could have a button to either have a revenge or have no revenge, would you press the button? No revenge. No.

It's different. If you asked me before, I would probably hit revenge. But now, since I'm more mature, I would probably get no revenge. Because I think we all know now, like, karma and, like, God will do things that you could never do yourself. And you're going to get bad karma for trying to give them revenge. So I just realized, I'm like, the things that I can, like, the universe can do, that God can do, is so much more powerful than anything I could do. And I do believe what goes around comes around. If you did something dirty to me, like...

it's going to happen to you too in a different way. And I've even noticed myself, things I did, like bad things I did that I knew was bad, it came back to me in a different way. So it's like, it always will come back. And if you let the universe and God do it, it will hurt them so much more than if you did it. Yeah, 100, yeah. You just let God do it and you just enjoy it while it happens. Okay, so I have a story for you. Okay. And this is a real story, so I have to tell the right freaking year and stuff because it's going to sound too crazy that it's fake. Yeah.

In 1893, a man by the name of Henry Ziegland. Henry Ziegland. He died by getting shot by a tree. Now, let me get to it. Let me get to it. Ready? So, story goes that Henry Ziegland, he pretty much smashed someone else's girlfriend at the time. This is in 1893, right? Yeah. And the boyfriend...

I think it was actually his husband. The husband came with a gun to shoot at Ziegler, missed, and hit the tree. Years later, when he decided... Anyways, the beef was over. But years later, when he decided to take out his tree, Henley Ziegler was alive, trying to take out the tree. He used dynamite to explode the tree because it was such a huge tree. What the heck?

When he used the dynamite, the bullet lodged into the tree from like, I think 12 years ago, fired out and shot him right into the head. That's insane. God was like, let me wait 12 years to get this guy back. After all of those years, he got shot by the bullet that missed him.

when he's gonna take out the tree that's insane so remember guys if you guys want to do something like bad it might come in like 10 years because if you think about it if the guy did shoot him he would went to jail yeah yeah

But since he didn't, it went into the tree. It was just one of the other guys. That's actually crazy. Karma's real, man. Crazy. No, it's the realest thing on earth. Nobody can ever tell me that shit isn't real. I always say, no matter how much people hurt you, just hold your patience. Don't do anything. Because there's a lot of people's lives I could ruin. But I'm not going to. Because I believe karma will...

Do it. You got to be the best person for the best world that you want to live in. That's what it is. Yeah. Do good by everyone. Spread peace to everyone. Just try your best at least. Yeah. All right. Thank you everyone for watching this episode of the Jumper Jump Podcast. Make sure to comment, like, subscribe, all that good stuff. Also go check out Sahar's account. Link in the description below. Make sure to go to Spotify, Apple, download those episodes. We love you guys, man. And go check out my other channel. Click this link right here. Click this video right here. And yeah, Jumper Jump out. Deuces.