EP.196 - THE CATMAN OF GREENOCK MYSTERY, YOUTUBER ERWIN SAUNDERS CASE, & SCARY CAMPING STORIES
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Welcome to the first ever Second Second? Yeah we did an outdoor episode Actually second This is the first cottage episode A lie Cottage I almost died at Fuck literally just last night I almost died at this cottage Explain how you almost got packed by some cat hair Okay don't spoil it These bros are gonna spoil the whole thing My fault Sensor that shit But pretty much I didn't know I didn't know that I had a terrible terrible reaction to stuff

That would almost like make me stop breathing. Yeah. So what happened was we were all just chilling in the car. We have all the boys over here and nighttime is ready to sleep. Fam, I go to bed and I'm chilling there for a minute. I was there for like, not even that long. I want to say like 10, 15 minutes. Okay. I'm just in the covers and I feel my eye is starting to swell. And you know that feeling when it gets, it literally feels like a jelly. So my eye was almost coming out of my mouth.

It was like a blister? It felt like a blister? No, it was like, it was fat. Ew. Yeah, it was thick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was like, it was jellifying and coming out of my socket, bro. Oh my God. So I looked in the mirror and I have like an allergic reaction to something. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Yeah. It's like, okay, boom. I know what to do. I'm a lifeguard, feel me? So what I do, I Google, okay, what should I do? Just chill and just follow protocol. I'm gonna wait it out, see what I'm feeling. Okay. I'm sitting on the bed, bro. And I'm just like this.

I start wheezing and I can't breathe. My esophagus starts closing up like this. I'm like, hold on. I got to go. Keep in mind, guys, this is already like 4 or 5, probably 5 a.m. I think it was 5 a.m. So what I do, I go wake up Dino and then I'm like, bro,

you might have to call 911 or you might have to go to the hospital or like I might just Uber home. Yeah. Cause I need like Benadryl or whatever. Okay. Okay. You got me Benadryl, bless, boom. But I'm like, it's still as I, as we like are panicking shit, it's still closing up more and more and more. And it, that feels like I'm going to lose air. Holy fuck. So we decided, okay, let's just go to a hospital. Boom, boom, boom. And I had the Benadryl. It's getting worse and worse. We get to the hospital.

And you know those ones? I don't know if you've ever been to a hospital. You know those ones where like, man, I'm probably going to get better in the waiting room? Oh, yeah, in the waiting room. Because the Benadryl didn't hit until like an hour later and I started feeling better. Okay. So what it was, it was probably cat hair. So I'm allergic to cats, fam. Oh, damn. I didn't know that. I get packed up by a cat, which is fucked up. Because you didn't do those allergic tests where they poke you in your arm a bunch of times and then... I did one a long, long time ago, but I don't think it's accurate anymore. Do you think we get...

new uh new uh what do you call this allergic reactions to shit as we grow because maybe the body changes i think so because our boy got like allergic pomegranates out of nowhere yeah exactly and ryan when when i was making him laugh yeah all i heard oh yeah he's allergic too bro it might be his cats loki no it's just some next breed bro no but my friend is also allergic it's not the it's the hair

So it's something, it's like a type of hair that you can't be around or it gives you hives. I think it's dander. Apparently it's the skin actually. It's the skin from the hair. That's the one that makes you irritated. Yeah. You ever hear of, there's this thing called a social allergy. You ever heard of that? No, no, no. You ever heard of a social allergy? What is that? Think about it like this. Let's say we're in a friend group, right? I was talking about it with Ryan earlier. I pretty much said,

So it's this thing as if we all become allergic to something once it's said. So for us, what do you think that is? Something that's a nuisance, but it's a little bit of a nuisance. And once one person acknowledges it, everybody doesn't like it. And we all become allergic to it. Okay. What do you think it is? And it's so toxic. Toxic. It's like the most Toronto thing too. It's so dumb.

I don't know. Toronto? It's meat riding. Oh, meat riding. Okay. Yeah, that is toxic. That's right. For sure. Yeah, yeah. That's what you call like a social allergy. So your friend group would see something that's not even that serious. But once it called out, everybody's like, oh, nah, I can't even be around that anymore. But I think that's just opinion based too because it's like, oh, if something's cool, then everyone around it thinks it's cool too. So it can be the other way. True.

Yeah. True. Because there was one time where we were on the beach and then my boy wanted to play a song. Remember, I was like, yo, play some rap or something. We're on the beach. Yeah. And then turn this shit off. Right. And then you're like, no, no, no. The vibe is cool right now. Everybody. Oh, yeah, the vibe is cool. You know what I mean? Like what? Like, oh, so if I say something, it's not right. I feel like it's just it's just the person that says it. Then everyone follows the group. Yeah. The group leader has to say something and then everybody will follow. That's it.

you know what though I think I think if you acknowledge nah I don't know yeah I think if you acknowledge something that's actually real yeah it could go yeah that's crazy cuz like even the hospital thing yeah the way I found out was I woke up to a text I was like yo is Carlos okay what is happening I'm like yo yo Ryan come here where's Carlos oh yeah this guy what was at the hospital what bro we came home we literally came home at 7:00 a.m. yes I didn't know that yeah I mean

I only got three hours of sleep today. I'm literally running off of two hours. Did you hit Dino when you were like, yo, fam, we have to call 911? I walked into his room as if I'm a little kid that threw up on the bed. Word. Mom? Yo, bro, like, wake up. I knocked on somebody else's door. It wasn't even Dino's door. I started knocking, and then Dino goes, are you trying to knock on my door?

Like, bro. Not gonna lie, though. Dino is the perfect, like, cottage dad. Yeah, he is. Like, if you need anything, like, that's the guy. Every friend group needs... Every friend group needs...

leader every friend group needs the mom mom dad and every group leader I mean every every group needs comedic really comedic yeah yeah that's exactly what I can say yeah that's the perfect because and someone that can actually make plans and a punching bat playing no low key yeah I punch it like yeah boom it's like I don't like saying that that's bad that's bad wait so what did they do do you in the hospital

Did they give you more medicine? But you were already healed? No. So I started feeling better. And I go, bro, I'm not going to stay here longer. Because I said, how long am I going to wait here? I already stayed for an hour. No, so you just left? I said, I think I'm just going to go. And she's like, yeah, it's okay. You can go. Yeah.

I told her I'm feeling better. Like, I can breathe better now. The Benadryl's probably kicking in. I'm going to go get more Benadryl. I'm good. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, all right, go. But if I died, like, right there, she would have been in trouble. Crazy. Yeah, that's a... Your mom and dad lost you. No, but if it's my own, like, consent, I think you're allowed to say it. Yeah, yeah. Because she was hesitant. She was looking at me like...

She's looking at the flap of your eye like, yo, are you good? Because my eyeball was ready. Fam, I look like Glenn from The Walking Dead. Like, eyeballs, like, sticking out and shit. Bro, there was recently, too. So, there's this Chinese mukbanger. I don't know if you watch her. But it's not the person that eats a lot. Like, you know how the mukbangers have food on the table? And they only finish the food on the table? Yeah, yeah. This mukbanger does timed mukbangs. So, she'll sit there. The speed? No, she'll sit there for six hours.

Doing mukbangs How much was she eating? A lot And in the middle of her video Her stomach started bleeding

Oh shit She had to go to the hospital? Rushed to the hospital And the nurse kind of did Like what you did So it's like Yeah they fixed it They fixed it and stuff Which is very like It was miraculous That they even fixed that They could fix it And just let her go? Yeah and they let her go Right? And they said You have to stop doing videos And the parents were like Listen to the nurse Stop doing the mukbang video That's your livelihood bro That's your livelihood You can't just give up So she was like Since this is my life I have to keep doing it So the next week

Does a 10-hour mukbang. Livestream. Presses the record button. Sits there and eats. Dies on camera. Damn, boo. Just because you want to keep doing it? Yes, because her stomach finally ripped apart. Oh, what the fuck?

Crazy. And they did the autopsy. Fam, her stomach had uneaten food. So she was just swallowing stuff at one point. So she was swallowing pizza full, hamburgers, not chewing shit, ripped open. Damn. So she was just like vacuuming it, bro. Crazy. But I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure even if you just drink too much water, you can die too. Yeah, you can. Like the,

you're just not supposed to have that much shit. Yeah, I know. But they were telling me like, this can is too much water. No, it's not. Like, to die of water, you need a lot, a lot, which never happens. So me and Josh had this thing. We were out on the water. We were kayaking. We were looking around like, if you had to, and you had to collect as much people as you could to clear up a whole lake, do you think you can get enough people to drink all the water in the lake? Oh yeah, we could. No, in the lake? Are you crazy?

I think that's too much Josh said we could I don't think so man That's too much If we got everybody in the In like Asia Then that's enough For this lake right here How much water can you Can you drink a whole bathtub Wait wait Are we given like a day Or a week No like in a sitting bro Oh no No that's impossible We have to drink it You know how much people No but you can have as much people as you want You think you can do it Okay well he said He said This our city

So for example, there's like a pond in our city and we could drink all of it if we had every single person in our city to drink it. Do you think it's possible? Do you think you can even drink a bathtub? That's too much though. That's too much for one person. I think you could die from that, right? Low-key for a bathtub, you're going to need at least...

a city uh uh no not a city a thousand maybe a thousand a thousand for a bathtub for a bathtub no that's that's like four people okay so me me i'm doing at least in a bathtub wait how much is in a bathtub because water bottles is like this much i can okay i can drink like five water five yeah six

I can do 10. I can do 10 in a day. Oh, 10 in a day? Okay. But imagine pouring those water bottles in. You're only going to maybe in a bathtub, that's only going to be like the lower level, like the first level. Yeah, you know what you're right. You're right still. You're right still.

Yo, are you ever in the shower and you're like, you're counting how much milk bags you're filling up? Nah. Or am I the only one? You do that shit? Like, I used to count like... But you don't even pay for the water. No, no, no, no. But when I was brought, I was like, okay, I used to count like, okay, that's one milk bag. Yeah. Oh, that's two milk bags. Oh, I'm in there here for a long time. I know. It's low-key wasteful. Yeah. Like in Asia, I know they only... You're supposed to have like a six-second shower in the military. Exactly.

Yo, you know in the military, you know how they call shit military grade? Oh, yeah. What was that? You know that there's a theory like it's not even, that's not even what it is. Like, it's not even good. What is it? You hear military grade, what do you think? It's good. It's like you can go to war with it. Yeah. No, military grade literally means it's the minimum requirement for the least cost. That's what military grade is. Oh.

The minimum requirement for the least cost. So it's like the worst quality you could get. Yeah, that's what military grade means. So I, wait. Lowest cost, but most output. No, that's crazy. Yeah, and like meets minimum requirement. So the meal preps that they do is military grade. Yeah, it's minimum. Yeah, it's minimum.

But you hear military grade and you're like, oh shit, that's good for you, right? When I think of military grade, I think of like a tank. Yeah, or like you get like... It's sturdy, you know what I mean? Like knives and shit. Military grade, yeah, it's good. Nah, it's not even sick like that. That's crazy. But that's how the marketing works, fam. And, you know, okay, I have a question for you, right? In our city, specifically Toronto, how much construction is on the street? A lot. And it doesn't stop, right? Think about it.

Theory goes, the reason there's so much construction and it never is completed, or there's always new ones that...

are never like fully finished is because if they're finished, people lose jobs. Yeah, yeah. They work by the hour. People literally will lose their job if they're finished. So you can imagine if they fix up the whole city, they can probably fix up the whole city in a month or two, three months maybe. Yeah. Depending like how the roads, let's just say the roads specifically. You can fix up the roads in like a day, right? Damn, but if they do that,

Who's going to be working anymore? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. I've seen so many TikToks of roof contractors. They work by the hour, right? So they can do it. I've seen a person do it in like 30 seconds because they have the machinery for it. But they do it in four hours so they can get paid more.

you know so they just extend the time because if it's by the hour yeah because it seems too easy yeah yeah you know you can finesse that we get tax dollars go straight to that yeah you do you ever think you could do that that door-to-door sales oh I'd be sick of that yeah cuz I don't think I would be able to do it because as soon as a man tells me no I usually just could dip I you made a decision ever sell yourself though no never you should practice that I don't know where to though literally everywhere everywhere

So example, like let's say you walk into a new setting, like new people in there. Technically, when you meet somebody, you're selling yourself. Not in the sense like you're trying to impress them, whatever. But you're giving... You're showing them a representation of the product, of you. Right? True. Technically, you have to sell yourself. So I think...

selling and just confidence in general is low key. Just the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. Cause confidence in product. That's the best salesman. Yeah. I think the last time I could, I did it like when I didn't realize, obviously when you're going on dates and shit with a girl, like you have to sell yourself. And you know, when I sell myself, I fabricate stuff. So I'm lying. Oh, okay. Oh, you listen to Frank Ocean too? Oh,

Oh I've never Did you ever lie on a date like that? Yes bro I've never listened to Frank Ocean So I'm like yo Did you see his last album? Okay that's kinda crazy You know what I mean Fabrication man That's bad fam That's bad The reason I would never do that Is because you can get caught Yeah I know you could You could you could yeah There's how many How many romcoms are about a lie That just went bad fam It's just terrible bro That's fire though like

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One of the stories I heard recently, because we're supposed to go.

You know there's an antique store nearby us? Oh, yeah. We always go to there. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we went there last year. Yeah, and I want to go so bad, right? But I came across a story. This is a real story and it's recent. Okay, okay. So I'm going to show you a picture too. Okay. There's this guy that he found... He calls it like... It's not necessarily an idol, but it's a statue of almost like a monkey. But it's weird. Yeah, yeah. Because...

This is what he explained. Okay. He explained he goes with his girlfriend to this antique store, very similar to what we want to go to, right? Yeah, yeah. And they're going through a bunch of different things, and there's this one thing that caught his eye. But when he saw it, he said, like, it felt as if it's a child that he knew. Whoa. That's what's weird, right? Yeah. He said as if it doesn't necessarily call to him, but it makes him feel a way that's strange. And when he picked it up, he took a picture.

Now he put it down and when he put it down, a person walked up behind them and they said, oh, you're looking for haunted items as well. What the fuck? That's what like the stranger in the store said. Yeah, yeah. So they put it down. Time goes by. They go home. Bro takes a shower and then like when he's taking a shower, he just keeps thinking about the monkey for some reason. Yeah, yeah. He's like stuck in his head. He doesn't know why. So the way he explained it was it's almost as if

it was telling him to take it because he needed to help it. If that makes sense. He needs to save it. So he explains that to his girlfriend, right? And his girlfriend starts wilding out because his girl is a witch. She practices Wiccan. And she pretty much says that. She asked him a specific question. She just goes,

Didn't make you feel desperate. Why? So apparently if something makes you feel desperate, that's not a spirit. It's a demon. I'm trying to think like what make you feel desperate for what? So check this out. The way she explains it is spirits, they have nothing to gain from you. But demons do. They want something from you. Okay, okay. So spirits are just there to fuck around. Yeah. And what they did, they ended up doing like card reading, like tarot reading. Yeah.

And what played out matched exactly to what happened in that scenario. Yeah, yeah. The card reading played out a story about a guy being tempted to saving someone and being possessed by the person. So it's almost like that person gave their kindness away. In return, they were fooled and taken themselves. And he wanted to go back.

But he had to like stop himself from doing it. This is the picture of the monkey. Let me see. Let me see. It doesn't look that crazy, but like, look, I even, fam, I even took a pic of it and I didn't really want to, I didn't really want to keep it in my, in my phone. Yeah. Cause it just gave me weird vibes. Look, so this is the whole story. And he was pretty much saying, he's, he's pretty much explaining like all of the red flags and all of the things he was feeling, how he went to the, his girl. Okay. If you look at it,

That's fucked. It just looks fucking weird, right? Yeah, yeah. But for you to put out, like, a whole story like this and just go, hey, guys, like, I think I was possessed by this thing, blah, blah, blah. True. It's just interesting. All in the footage, yeah. So I guess, like, more or less where you should, if we're going to go to an antique spot like that and something, this is what he said. If you go to a thrift store, antique shop, anywhere that sells things that are used, like,

Be careful If it gives you a weird feeling Weird feeling It gives you a weird feeling Yeah

That might just not be anything. It might not just be you feeling off. It might actually be something. No, because antique stores, they do carry around a lot of bandages. I stopped going to antique stores specifically because remember the flea market? Yeah. That one, I always felt kind of weird because there's some vendors where in the deep crevices will have like, oh yeah, something like that monkey thing. It'll look weird, like a clown statue. And it's just not... I think it's the moments where you...

If you get a spiritual feeling from something, that's different, bro. Yeah. Because that's something you can't really explain, right? For example, when you pray, that's a feeling you can't really explain to somebody with proper words. It's something you just feel. Same way people go on psychedelic trips. They can't really give you the words that describe it. It's just that's what's able to be expressed as, right? So question for you. Do you think like...

You think like when things pop into your life, I guess this is similar to what I said before, but like you think it's just meant for you to understand and not everyone else? 100%, yeah. You think so? Yeah. Because it's like, okay, say... I'm trying to think of a situation where that happened. It was like you wouldn't understand if... I mean, oh, actually, no, we can't talk. Is that because this is what I... I had this thought, right? And this was when I was like hanging with my homies. If you were to see something and...

it gave you like inspiration. It gave you even just an emotion. Yeah. You saw it, it went away and you said, go look, look, look right now. And I looked and it was already passed. That means it was meant for you to see. Yeah. Because it's like, okay, the art that you like, I wouldn't like because it's, I wouldn't get it. You know what I mean? So it's like all opinion based, I guess. But do you think like,

certain things happen play out for you to get inspiration from or for you to experience that that person isn't supposed to or do you think these stories are supposed to be told by many people no I think it's only supposed to be told by the people that experience it so say like so I haven't had your experience of the ghost but I learn it from you and it's

If I had the same experiences Then I would be like Okay it's boring But I think that's how stories Why stories are so important Cause You know what I mean It's Everybody has their own story If everybody has the same story What There would be a podcast Cause everybody would know the stories Yeah yeah You know what I mean Do you ever hear about It's a legend But it's not even a legend This is deadass a person Yeah They call it The Catman of Grenwick

Catman of Grenwick. Never heard of it. Where's Grenwick? I think it's in Scotland. Okay, yeah. I was going to say that. Sounds like Scotland. I think it's Greenwick, Grenwick, something like that. Greenwich? But they call it the Catman. And that's a real person. Okay, okay. It seems like an urban legend, but there's many people that take pictures of it. So what the story is, it's pretty much this guy. What you see in the pics, fam, is literally a man covered in dirt. But he only crawls on his legs and he eats...

He eats rats pretty much. Oh, wait. I have heard of this. You heard of this? And he went around and started eating it? All the cats? Yeah, yeah. He goes around like eating... I've seen the picture. Mice, mouse, all of that shit. Yeah, yeah. So what happened? Do you know the story? No, I don't know the story. So there's many stories like legends, but this is the most valid one. People said...

One time, I think he was just... Honestly, he's just like a random stranger. But he got jumped. Oh, shit. But he got jumped so bad that his brain got messed up in a way that it put him into survival instincts of an animal. So the most basic survival instincts that are get food, move, drink water, survive. And from then on, I think he was paralyzed from his hips down. This is dead-ass a real person. It's not even...

It's not even just a folklore. Yeah, yeah. To this day, I don't know if he's still alive, but around 2007, when the first sightings happened, there's so many pics, fam. Like, he's just walking, not even crawling around, almost like a Black Ops 2 zombie.

going around and just eating rats and walking around and he can't stand he's not like a human and it's almost you know the movie tusk where he loses the sense of being a human he can only react as like he's a cat or like a like an animal so what happens just make noises and he can just survive yeah so what happened to him did they catch him or like it was just there's no there's nothing to catch like yeah you can't really what are you gonna do to him he's not really breaking no crimes yeah

There was these... The filmmakers. So they were trying to make a film going to the Amazon rainforest to study people doing the cannibalist stuff. And when they went there, they hired one guide because they obviously didn't know if there's going to be tribes there and stuff like that. They didn't know their way around, right? Fam, the moment they land...

They disappear. All of them. The filmmaker, the tour guide, the director, and the screen maker. So some guy, I think it was a professor that goes to NYU. He was so interested in the case that he was like, oh, I'm going to send my own people out and try to go find where they're missing. So he sends the team out, right?

goes to the same exact spot there's a shrine of of uh the cameraman's ted body it's just a shrine so they find where he's at yeah and they find the film that they they were trying to record yeah since they remember they're making a movie about cannibalism right so they take the film they take it back to nyu this is where it's plot twist right yeah because you think that the the the

The tribe is gonna fuck with the filmmakers, right? It was the opposite. So, since the filmmakers...

brought guns they saw a tribe member and they said take us to your tribe or we're gonna shoot you on the film the tribe member wasn't cooperating shoots the guy in the leg the tribe member this is all on film so they find more of the tribe members they all tie them up put them in a shed and start burning the shed and it's all on film yo I think they made a movie about this they did? so it did come out

That's what I didn't know. This is... It sounds similar. It might not be the same thing, but there's this movie called Cannibal Holocaust. Oh, was that the one they were making? I don't know. But there's another movie similar to it. It's called The Green Inferno. Never, never. But it's the similar concept of tribes that are cannibals. Okay. But what's interesting is they went there to shoot documentaries and stuff, right? Yeah. But they're putting themselves in an environment they're not supposed to be in, first of all. And what's weird is...

They wanted to make a good movie, right? Yeah, yeah. So what did they do? They set shit up to make it seem as if they're these monsters or these terrible people. Yeah. When they're not really. They provoke them in certain ways. They harass them in certain ways. And I guess their way of fighting back and stopping the harassment was them killing them.

I don't know if they necessarily ate them, but yeah. No, that was a plot twist, fam, when I heard that story. Because it's like, maybe if you are shooting a film, you have to respect the people that are there. Like, you can't... Maybe they were trying to force them to do stuff for the film, but they're not actors. You know what I mean? They're real people. Yeah, that's true. Because when you make a film, you direct. And people listen, obviously. But you don't, you know what I mean? You don't up a strap. Yeah, but I know that's so true, but like,

Okay, do you think the greatest art has to take it to the craziest levels? Yes, yes. And that's why the Cannibalism Holocaust is probably a sick movie because it's like, that's real. And the documentaries... No, but the documentaries... I'm pretty sure that movie's banned. From just cinema? No, it's a banned movie. Oh, shit. They don't have it in a lot of places. Also, the director went to jail for it.

Because they weren't sure if some of the clips were actually real or not. Yeah, yeah. It was just that realistic looking. There was a guy in New York, right? Who was also kind of in this forest area. Yeah. And he got the craziest plot twist too. Because when he was walking around, he always walks the hike that he does, right? I think it's in New York.

So when he hikes around he sees a bunch of trees with like posters on them. And when he goes up to the tree he's like, "Oh!"

I'm actually in danger now because the posters on the tree are missing are pictures of missing people that went around that area so a killer was putting missing pictures of the people saying come find me or something like that and he takes the poster to the police and they're like oh no that's just for a party like we were already um oh so it wasn't real yeah because it was enough since you got trolled oh yo it's not even that that's what it was so he went on his regular hike and he was like wait what is this

Oh, so...

Yo, honestly, like, if you walk into a movie set, you could be bamboozled. That's what I'm saying. You could walk into some shit that looks like some crimes are going down, some heinous, heinous crimes are going down, and, bro, like, they could just have a camera in the corner, like, you're on show. I don't know what movie it was, but they were filming, and some guy was roughing up a woman, right? And a passenger on the sidewalk was like, let her go, right? And all the guys with the cameras, wait, wait, sorry, dude, sorry, we're filming.

You're actually on set right now. We respect that, but no, she's not getting hurt. Word. So jokes, bro. That happened in, you know, Activision, the makers of Call of Duty. So when Modern Warfare 2 came out, you know how they have all the different characters? They have like Soap, Ghost, and all these different characters in COD. They had cutouts of them put in the office. 911 was called and like,

I think like seven SWAT cars pulled up to a call saying they thought the office was being held hostage because of a guy in the window. They could see because in the window was a cutout of ghost from Call of Duty. Oh my God. Like a little cardboard cutout with his strap, his mask. Cause you know how he has like a ski mask on and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. It was nothing. It was just their own promo. Yeah. Yeah. So wait, so they did it on purpose.

No. Or not really did on purpose. That's like their own thing in their office, but other people that saw it, they're like, yo, some shit's popping off. But it wasn't. It was just chilling. Yeah. If I was going to do Jumper Jump, I would want to work for those big video game companies. Activision would be sick. Or like... I've always...

remember when um fuck high beast when high beast was a big thing when emily oberg was doing the supreme lines their office that's not high that's that's complex oh it's complex yeah that's complex yeah complex would be so fun to work at when i was younger because that that guy that was trolling emily oberg the the filipino guy who was that i don't know i don't but real ones know because he would he would take new shoes that he would get pr package yeah and be like emily oberg i got these new shoes you didn't get them and

Yo, okay. Going to your question. Yeah. With like, you said you want to work as a video game company? Or no, at a like a Gen Z type of office. That's where I would be at. Like Google and type of thing? You know what though? I feel like everybody wants to be that Google...

that Google headquarters now. Yeah, because every single headquarters we've been to, because I watched this movie way, way back, but it was about these interns that wanted to work at Google and then they show all the offices. Oh, it's such a cool place to work, blah, blah, blah.

every single headquarters we've been to of like bigger companies they all give off the same vibe and i think it's because of that movie yeah also i think top gun if top gun didn't exist we wouldn't have fighter pilots fam we would not have pilots no dead ass like for movies probably influence so much people to get into their jobs and careers leave down the comments if your job or career was inspired because you watched a movie like damn i want to do this shit

Do you think this was influenced by a movie that you watched? Or it was just like... Nah. Yeah. This is very like... No, it's... But it doesn't have to be a movie. It could just be like content you consume. And for me, it was like watching Joe Rogan, I guess. Yeah. Or other podcasts. Do you think in movies, that's why they have...

a lot of movie plots that I know is corporate life and a guy starting out in the office and doing something else. So is that like subtle thought like, oh yeah, let's put man's in nine to fives and make this sound normal? I think the average person almost...

all of us now, especially 2024, we're obsessed with the idea of breaking from the matrix. Yes. And it's already, it was already so prominent in the beginning when the matrix came out, when these movies started coming out, because they could already see the, the push of capitalism where it's headed and shit. And how we're like all becoming almost the same minded. Yes. If you fall into that same path and you just like blind yourself. Yeah.

you're just gonna be living the same life everybody else is gonna live boom boom boom time goes by and you even realize oh fuck I'm 50 now oh shit I'm 45 now whatever

You didn't see time go by and you didn't even get to, I guess, really live free. You know what I mean? That is true. I remember I told my, because where she's at, the boba place that she works at, it's all, she said millennials, right? Yeah. And I told her, it's like, okay, if they want you to promote it, put it on TikTok. And what she did, she did like a dance on thing with like the,

the Boba and they had like a 100k and she got moved up to like social media now marketer and yeah it makes sense because she's Gen Z she knows the technology bro we have an advantage bro I think

I think everybody had it though. Yeah, I know. But we know how to use it. Some people just don't understand. Yeah, just don't understand. Some people just don't understand. Everybody has it. And it's not like something... You see everybody online and you see celebrities and shit like, oh, yo, they're special. They're the exact same person as you. They just decided to do shit. To do shit. That's literally what it was. Okay, I have a question for you. Okay, yeah. When you said like video games, if you could create one video game, what would it be? Create one video game? Your original video game, what would it be?

Oh, if I'm making it from scratch, all of us as characters with our own movesets, like mannerisms, you know how that... That's super personal. Yeah, exactly. That's like for the guys. Like Jumpers Jump Super Smash Bros. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was talking about it with John. Okay.

And we were like, what if you make a... Because there's so many simulators now. Yeah, yeah. What if you make a simulator as a mall security guard? No, man. No, but check out. That's so boring. It sounds stupid. It sounds dumb. But imagine it's as if like it's a...

You know the game Bodycam that looks realistic as fuck? Oh, yeah. Where you go around and shoot people. Yeah, you're fighting other people, but it literally looks like a camera that's just going around on missions, shooting people, as if it's people dying on screen. But it's not. It's just made in a way that feels so realistic and gives that emotion from it, right? So imagine it's like that, but like...

You ever play Thrillville? What's that? You know Thrillville? Is that the one with the clown? No. So Thrillville is this game. And pretty much it's like a roller coaster tycoon. But you also build your own park. And you're kind of the owner of the park. Yeah. You can literally go around just like real life talking to anybody at the park. Random people. So imagine GTA, all the NPCs. But you can walk up to them, have a conversation with them, make relationships with them. Oh, so like Sims? No.

Yeah, yeah, kind of, kind of, kind of. Yeah, yeah, actually, Sims, like that. But you get to, like, build an environment with it. Yeah, that's Sims. Is that? Because you do build... It is Sims. You build the house around... I can't even play Sims in a minute. That is Sims, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sims was a go-to game because it's, like, unlimited... It's like Minecraft, except with people now. So imagine that, but you're a mall cop. That's insane. Sims Mall Cop Edition?

No, and then you're stopping crimes? Like, there's a robbery at the store? Maybe I'm just excited about it because I hear all the stories John has to say about it. True, true, true. Bro, Loki, we should call John. Should we call John later? Yeah, if you want. Yeah, he has a ghost story for us. Okay, okay, I bet. Hold on, let me get him. Are you camping here tonight?

Yeah, I'm sleeping in the tent behind you. Oh, come here, come here. Sit down. I have a crazy story for you since you're camping here. So then, I don't know if you've seen the... Wait, did we talk about the viral video going with the thermal in Mexico? With the thermal camera? Did you show this to me before? No, I don't think so. Okay, so there was this group of friends that were camping in an area that was very open, right? Yeah.

And one of them felt like there was someone looking at them. So they had their tent set up and stuff like that. And that one person kept going, guys, I think there's someone around us. I hear something around us. I don't think it's an animal. It's like I hear steps, right? So that same night, there was a guy with a drone. He was like, okay, we'll put the drone up. It has thermal equipment.

So we'll walk around with the drone and see if that person follows us. We'll see. Right? So in the video, there's like six white people because it's thermal. And they're walking, they're walking. And they move the drone kind of like to the right behind them. There's one person walking.

following and it's a person walking towards them right so they start running back to the camp area and they sleep it off next day they see the footprints of a person and all and like some of their stuff is gone right so they put it up again at night that same night right

They put it up and they see a person just standing, looking, facing towards their campsite. Like far away, but they're looking in the direction, right? The person goes, okay, let me put it on the computer. I can change it back to the regular and we can zoom in to see what it is. They zoom in, fam. On the thermal, it looks like a person. I don't know why, but on the normal camera, it's a deer.

But no, the whole time in the video you can see a person walking. Wait, so it's like, so it's a deer or it's a person? It kind of like transformed, they're like, why is it a deer? The whole time we can see arms and legs in the thermal vision. Let me see. Yeah, I got you. Alright, so peep this. Alright. Peep this. So on the thermal cam you can see six men. You see? You see them walking? Yeah. And then it'll pan and it'll pan to one person walking towards them.

This looks like um literally like the COD game when you're in the airplane. Yeah yeah yeah. And then if you go to the end of the video and they change it to the regular, it'll zoom into a deer. But why is a deer walking like a human? Skinwalker question mark? What the fuck? Yeah skinwalker? But in the video- So it's shape shifted on- Yeah yeah that's what the whole theory is. Oh that's weird stuff. Yes. So they can see it though? Yeah they can see it. But on the thermal cam it's a person going like this Carlos.

What the fuck? Yeah. And you're sleeping out here, buddy. Nah, because I heard this. I heard this. You ever hear about the Erwin Saunders case? No. So Erwin Saunders, he's this YouTuber that went missing.

But all of his content, it was about him searching for fairies. And it sounds dumb, right? It sounds like, oh, he's searching for pixies. He's searching for fairies. It sounds like some dumb shit. But he was serious, man. He was looking into all of these mythologies. He was dead-ass studying it. Almost like his whole... It's his whole channel, but it might very well be like his whole life. Okay. He was posting consistently almost every single week until he posted like his last video. Mm-hmm.

And all it was was like a blank... It's a cryptid drawing of fairies around a stone. And it had these weird symbols on it. Yeah. And that was it. That was his last video. Whoa, that's it? So people are saying he was on to something and he found the secret to something. Yo. And he might have went missing because of where you explored to. Yeah, yeah. Do you know where it is? So...

Because let's finish this video. This is what happened. The video is just bullshit. Like, it's nothing, right? Yeah, yeah. But it had everyone guessing. Now, check this out. I decided to look into his content. I watched, like, a good amount of his videos and shit. Man, this shit has to be CGI, though. Like, all of his stuff has to be CGI. Oh, that's... This shit is probably all fake. But...

After his last video, he ended up uploading again, fam. So he pretty much, he's smart as shit. What he did, he made it seem as if he went missing so he can take a break from YouTube. Marketing genius, man. So he took a break from YouTube and made it seem like, yo, what happened? He's on his way to the adventure. He's on his way to solve all of these things. Gone. Gone.

And then comes back and starts making more videos. Okay. And I looked at all the comments and... Yo, mad people are really enjoying the content. And it's obvious that it's not necessarily real. Okay. But man's are there for the story and how it's like... I guess almost directed. Because honestly, it's like a movie. Yeah. So, yeah. If it's not real, but... Okay. So, do you think... For example... Oh, shit. You're getting covered in water over there. No, we're good. Do you think...

Because there's a lot of creators like that. There's YouTubers, especially kids watch. Yeah. That... Are gullible enough to believe it. Not even that, but it's just like they know wrestling's fake. You know what I mean? Yo, Kardashian's probably fake too. But all of these things seem as if they're reality, but it's just dramatized for the viewer to be exciting. Yeah. So do you think...

nobody really cares nobody does because if you that was a perfect example WWE yeah even though people know it's fake what was the energy like when we were in that stadium it was like they were actually fighting like people were cheering it's just hype it's a hype thing yeah and yo it's kind of a crazy thing because it's like it takes only one person to stop that right because it's like oh I don't believe in that and then that person's like oh oh yeah that's actually not real because if you think he gets reminded

If you think about it, if we continue to live exactly how we were as kids in the same sense of, yo, I want to believe... I want to pretend...

"Damn, there's a giant over there, let's go play with the giant!" We run away, blah blah blah. We can have fun and we can have those moments and good memories. And a lot of the times our best memories are when we were kids experiencing what? That. Using our imagination, using our energy to just have fun. Not caring what anybody else thinks and just playing out that story together. Even though it's not real, but you share a connection with it that is real.

I feel like that's missing in a lot of content that's almost feeling too, I don't know, forced? Yeah. If that makes sense? Yeah. A lot of content feels like it's not hitting the right emotions. I don't know. Yeah, like the nostalgic emotions. Yeah, that and just the real emotions, right? Yeah. It doesn't feel, I don't know, human.

You know what I mean? Like, some shit doesn't feel human no more. It doesn't. Do you think that the Mr. Beast... That shit doesn't feel human. It doesn't feel human. That shit doesn't... That's a great example. That shit doesn't really feel... Except, I will say, the ones that are helping people's lives, those ones are very human. But do you think people using hospitality for views is good? I think it... Yeah, I think it's still good. But it's like...

It depends if off camera, you're still doing it. Like, if you're only doing it for the camera, then that's when it gets fucked. But it's like, say, giving $1,000 to the homeless. Yeah, it's cool. But it's like, you can do that without it. But...

off camera are you still donating true true you know i mean if you have like a billion dollars and you have to give it to one person who would you give it to but it couldn't be someone you know oh it couldn't be someone i know could not be someone you know who would you give it to the first homeless person i see dead ass why though i don't know because that's a big responsibility still a billion dollars oh a billion okay a billion dollars like we get to decide yeah but but i don't know him yeah you don't know him yeah i know so i feel like complete stranger but you have to give him the money

Who are you giving it to? Complete stranger. Yeah, I would bless a homeless person. It's a random person though? I feel like, no, any random person though that we give it to is kind of the same. It's on the same level because, oh, maybe that homeless person will actually do better than the corporate person that we give it to. You know what I'm going to do? Yeah. I'm going to look for the person that's working the hardest. So how would you do it? Check this out. Check this out. Yeah. Fuck, I feel like a movie always. But there was a movie that really felt

it had that human connection where it's like, um, this feels real. So every person that was doing the job in the film, even though it wasn't an important, like you couldn't say it's a very important example, an ice cream truck driver. Yeah. But he's the best ice cream truck driver you can imagine. He's having fun doing it. He's giving good energy to people. Everyone that comes to the ice cream truck, it feels happy. And that's the only person you want to get ice cream from.

Even though he's not paid much, even though he doesn't seem that important, he still has that, like, I don't know. He has its own importance, feel me? Has its own importance. That's true. I feel, look, like, even though if it's the right, like, work, hard work, and I guess dead-ass energy, fam. Like, if it's the right energy, the right person, they deserve more, even if they're not given it. Yeah, but how are you going to find that out through just...

Finding the person that's actually like, like I said, there could be a person that's meant to sweep the floors, but they sweep the floors like there's no tomorrow. They sweep the floors like that's what they're meant to do. True. But if you give them that person, if you give that person the money, would it even, that would take them away from what they're good at. The things they like, yeah.

That's true. That's why it's like... So is it a curse or is it a blessing? It's a curse though. Because then they might not even be happy with the billion. They were actually happy sweeping the floors. That's why I... No, I take it back. A homeless person that... Because I remember I didn't give a homeless person money that I walked past because he wasn't doing anything. But I remember in traffic, there was a homeless person that was like... They had like a bowling pin and they were like,

trying to work for the money or something. And I felt more like, okay, yeah, I'm going to bless him like a 20. And he said thank you and stuff like that. So I was like, yo, if you're working and you look like you're having fun, yeah, I'm going to give you money. I seen when I was in the Philippines. Yo, there's a whole genre. You know, I forgot the name, but it's like, it's, I forgot the name. Leave it on the comments if you know what I'm talking about. But it's the music that goes, tuk, tuk.

You know the... Emergency, emergency. Oh, emergency, yeah. You know what I'm talking about? Yo, that's a whole genre in the Philippines. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's booming. Booming. It gets a huge... In the clubs. Damn. That's like... I didn't know they have, you know, a boiler room? Yeah. They have boiler room sets for the guy that invented that genre. Yeah, and it's from the Philippines. Oh. Did I tell you this? When I was in the Philippines and I was in Boracay, this homeless person... I seen a mom...

I've seen a kid holding a baby. So I was like, okay, I'm going to bless the kid. Like hella money. Because obviously I felt bad. Why is a kid taking care of a baby? And before I put the money in, my cousin grabs me by the shirt. Stop. Why? There's eyes that we don't know that are looking at us right now.

And I was about to give them hella money. I was going to put the money down to the kid. Oh, because they didn't want them to see you as a target. Fam, that's a trap. Because the mom that actually is watching from behind is using that kid for pity. So he grabbed me and he's like... Yeah, but you know for sure. Yeah, no. He's been there hella times. It's a trap. Damn. Okay, John T. John! Yeah, John has a ghost story for us. Come here, come here. Come through, bro. Come through, fam. Gangie...

This guy wants to show his piercing fam.

I'll get another shot. No, no, no. Like, see him in the shot. Okay. With him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Steer it. And pan it, yeah. God, bro. I'm getting nutted on right now. Yo. What the hell? Bring the mic close. Oh, shit. Okay, that's crazy. You good? Insane. I'm getting water dripped over me, bro. It's a spooky night tonight. It's dark outside. It's a spooky night. It's hella spooky. Bro, look at this. We're at the cottage, fam. Feel it. Loki, I saw... We saw the moon this morning, right?

Yeah, bro. It was a full moon? It was a full moon. It was red, fam. Oh, really? It was like infinite Tsukiyomi. Bro. Okay. This is ridiculous. Tell us your ghost story. All right. I'll tell you some ghost stories. So there's one particular one that I actually wanted to share for a minute on the pod, but I never had a chance to. I never got a chance to still. Okay. Tell us now. This is like the perfect...

perfect environment. It's nice and dark. Everyone's mood set. Hopefully everyone's at home tucked in right now. So it's going to get pretty serious. But this is one of the stories that comes from Guyana. If anyone doesn't know, I'm from Guyana. And

In another month or so, I'll be going back. So I'll be getting you guys more stories. But this one, I'm getting more scary ones. I'm going to go hunt. I'm going to go hunt. Ask any oldie. Any old hell that knows something, they're going to know. But anyways, so yeah. Tell us about the Jambi. The Jambi? It actually does relate to that. So there's a part. There's a specific place in Guyana. It's called Laguan. It's a little bit of a smaller island that's located in Guyana. And in Laguan,

There's a little bit of a rumor slash myth that goes around. It specifically relates to children. Where? Yeah. So with children, these instances are very rare, but it does happen. So a lot of people don't know about Ghana, but specifically after around 6 o'clock,

it gets pitch black. So no one's out really. No one's out doing anything. No one's working at six or seven. It gets pretty dark curfew or not. It's not really a curfew, but it's more of like people know, like when it hits six or seven, you should probably be at home, especially if it's a weekday, you should be at home. We shouldn't be out and about. Yeah. Especially if you're like on the roads and stuff, or you're at a spot where there's not much like streetlights or any of that accessibility, you should be at home. So that's one thing to look out for. But there's one thing specifically over there and it's,

and it's the children. So with the children, when it comes to spirits, this is from what I've heard, but there's a lot of people that when they're out and about,

I'm getting dripped on right now. I'm literally getting creamed on. Look at this. I'm getting nutted on right now. You're good. You're good. You're good. Just like sit up a little bit. Just stay in the shot. Just stay in the shot. This is ridiculous. You're perfect. I continue to enjoy it. I'm getting nutted on right now, bro. Okay. Anyways. So.

John's a fandom of Jumper's Jump. Yeah. Okay. Anyways, so where was I talking about? So yeah, so the kids. As everyone knows. Sorry, what did you say? The kids? Yeah, so the kids. So when it comes to specifically spirits with kids, there's been a few instances where specific children have passed.

And when it comes to these spirits, a lot of the people who recall seeing these kids, they're wearing the exact same clothes and they're classified as that child. So an example is I think there was one where someone told me there was a boy that wears a white vest and like a brown pair of pants. And he's known to like kind of freaking around. So they see the same person. They see the same person on the roads at nighttime. So this is what I'm talking about. So anything past 6 p.m. So a lot of people, what they'll do is they'll,

take their bicycle and go home from work or take their bicycle and go to someone else's house. And while they're doing this, it's not the best on the roads. It's a little bit, I wouldn't say foggy, but there's not that much light. So it's a little bit darker. So when this happens, a lot of people tend to see a younger boy specifically just in the middle of the road wearing the brown shorts and the white vests just in the middle of the road standing there.

This is insane. Do you not see what's happening right now? This is a... This was a dry shirt. Look at this. I'm a victim and no one's talking about this. Yeah. Okay. So if they see them though, do they pose a danger? So that's the thing I was going to get into. So...

When it comes to these children and when I see people, when I've spoken to these people who've told me about it, there's one thing that they advise when you see them. It's best if you don't engage with them.

And I asked, what do you mean by don't engage with them? Like you can't go up to them? Yeah. Well, he said not even that. He's like, it's best you don't even give them attention. Because what happens is when you're going about your business on the road and they're in the middle of the road or the side of the road, they're going to be trying to get some sort of attention out of you. Yeah. So...

if you're writing and you're planning on going to a destination, it's best if you go straight to that destination and not waste time looking at them. Because every time you look at them, you interact with them or you show any sort of interest in entertaining them. They will follow you. Exactly. They will. That's an invitation for them to follow you. Spirits specifically. So, cause that's seeing like, I acknowledge you and then,

It's pretty much welcoming them to your, I guess, domain. Exactly. Well, welcome them to follow you. So if you have a domain, they'd be welcome there as well because of how you approach them. So that's exactly where I'm going back from. So if you do see any of these...

kind of just on the road, especially if it looks very suspicious. You're on a bicycle going down at 6, 7. It's pitch black, like black out here. And you see a little boy in the middle of the road smiling at you, looking at you. That's not something you want to engage with, right? You want to just... Yeah, but what's weird is like if you were to see, if I were to see that, I would want to help the kid if they actually needed help. Right. Yeah, that's your downfall. So that's one thing that happens because I've had a person where...

They told me that when they did see one of these kids, it was specifically the boy with the brown trousers. Damn, so it's the same kid. It's the same kid. Everyone's repeatedly seeing this. It's specifically this kid with the brown trousers. A little kid. Yeah. Five or six years old. Apparently, he passed away and he's a spirit now. So one person actually went to help him and he got closer and closer to that spot where the kid is because he was thinking maybe that person's lost. And when he got closer, the kid's not there anymore. Damn. Fast forward to when he goes back home after work. Damn.

the kids in the corner smiling with him. I'm not joking. Yeah. And that's what happened to the house, followed him to the house because when you make contact with spirits, you got to remember it's an invitation for them to come into your abode. It's an invitation for them to tag along and go wherever you're going. Yeah. So it's important that if you're,

If you have a plan to go from work to your house and you see any sort of distractions or anything like that on the road, it's best you don't pay attention to them. You keep going straight ahead. You don't give them the time of day to entertain them because if you do entertain them, again, that's the invitation to where they'll follow you. They'll come into your house and then that's where stuff can escalate. So this specific person, he said he was able to see this person.

When he got closer, they're gone. And when he went home and he was like in his bed lying down and sleeping, he saw the kid at the corner of his eye. Did he do anything? No, it was just there. It was just a presence. The kid was there, but he said specifically the kid was at the corner looking at him, looking down or looking down on him, smiling at him. And that's one thing that he'll never get out of his head. Fuck, it's like PTSD. Yeah.

It's crazy, man. I remember that he told me he woke up screaming and everyone came into the room and the kid was gone. And he said he had nightmares about seeing this specific smile on his face and saying, I can't get this kid smiling at me out of my face because it's something that's so creepy, right? Sure, he had good intentions, but now...

Look, you know what I mean? That's something that could- that's gonna stay with him for the rest of his life. Bro, it's boring! This is insane. Yeah, we'll wrap up, we'll wrap up. Yeah. Because they can't hear it because the microphone's dead. Yeah, but I'm- I wanna say one more story. Yeah, yeah, I wanna say one more story too. Go ahead. No, you can say what you want to say. I want to hear it. Please, please, please. This is deadass probably the scariest. This is so- Okay. This is deadass the scariest, but it's actually kind of funny of a ghost story. Oh, okay. So-

There's this girl. And she said, like, it's not funny to her because obviously not. She went to go make tea in her house. Right. And so she made the tea, left it, went to her room and she's just hanging out in the bedroom. When she was in the bedroom, she was like helping out her child, put the child to sleep right beside her. Like she's looking at the child's face and she hears a voice in her head.

And she thinks it's like as if someone put their lips right near her ear and says, milk. Milk? Yeah, milk. The randomest shit, right? And she's like, what the fuck? And she looks around. And it's not the kid because she's looking at the kid. It wasn't the kid that said it. Bro, it clicks in her head. Every time she has tea, she puts milk in it, right? So when she went back to the kitchen and she looked at her tea, it was missing the milk.

What? Yo, but what's fucked is like, she can't explain it, right? She doesn't know where the voice came from. She doesn't know what it is. It might be early onset schizophrenia, but deadass, it was a voice that was telling her to put milk and she didn't have milk in her teeth, which she literally does. So do you think ghosts could high key be friendly and honestly know you?

I mean, it depends. I've heard stories from opposite ends of like the spectrum. Yeah. It depends on the type of spirit because ghosts and spirits there. We don't know if they're good or bad, right? Yeah. Yeah. You don't know. Yeah, exactly. You could just see a person. They could be a male, a female, a boy or a girl. We don't know what their intentions are. Right. And you don't know how they pass away. You don't know the whole. Yeah. Like how you could see a stranger. Yeah.

Seeing a ghost is the exact same thing. You don't know them. Exactly. Bro, this is... Because yours was like a positive one with milk. But sticking on the topic of kids, there was this kid because there was this mom, right? Who just had her kid and she was waiting for her kid to say her first words. Right? And one day in the kitchen, her dad was like, yo, yo, she's mumbling stuff. She's mumbling stuff. You got to come here to the living room. Her kid mumbles a bit. She goes...

Mommy's eyes. Or mommy's eyes. Right? In like a mumble. Yeah. Right? And they're like, oh, laughing it off. Mommy's eyes. Yeah. Right? The next morning, the mom goes to work and she gets in a fatal car accident. Damn. What the fuck?

Oh, she got blinded? No! Mommy dies!

And then she said, Mommy, remember, she still has a heartbeat, right? She says it again. She points at her mom. Mommy dies. And then two seconds after, the heartbeat cuts off. That's fucked.

Yo, that's crazy. Kids know. They actually know. They have the inner locket, man. I'm telling you. They got the secrets. They got the goblet. I'm telling you. They always know stuff. Do you think like when you're a kid and you have those superstitions, let's say you step on a crack. You know those ones? Damn. But tell me why when you're a kid though, it always was true though. Yeah.

It was always true, right? I actually have a theory on that. Yeah. I was going to share it with you. So here's a theory that I have with kids. So you see it everywhere with kids specifically befriending spirits or like spirits getting drawn specifically to kids. It's always everywhere, even in movies. Is it because they're the most innocent? I think that's why. Yeah, I was going to say that. I think it's because they're innocent, attracts these types of spirits.

Because it's like a blank slate. Exactly. Yeah. And they lock on to these types of kids because of their innocence. They can do a lot with it because it's not contaminated. There's no preconceptions of shit. Exactly. It's a moldable thing. Exactly. Kids won't get spooked by the spirits, right? We would obviously get creeped out if I see a spirit. I'd pick up my chair and throw it at it. I wouldn't do that. But some kids are open to that idea of having a friend.

So that's something. That's crazy. When we came to the cottage though, I got scared because there's a superstition that I almost fucked up. And I thought because I got my eyes swollen, I got my allergic reaction. So I thought I fucked up. So there was something I was trying to avoid. When we came to the cottage, I brought my cowboy hat.

And there's a superstition. Like, this is a dead-ass superstition. You should never put a hat, a cowboy hat specifically, on a bed. It's like, it gives you, like, 12 years of bad luck. Whoa. Yeah. What? For anybody that sees it. Yeah. No, dead-ass. Like, search it up. It's like an old-ass, I think it's a Western type of, like, superstition. But I thought I fucked up because I was only, like, damn.

I never really get allergic to shit like that. And it just happened. So I'm like, and I started thinking, cause that's when I slept in the tent. Remember I slept in the tent last night. He was like, damn, I can't sleep in the room. I was sleeping there. And I opened my eyes like this, like SpongeBob when he wakes up, like what the fuck? Yo, I thought of myself like, where'd I put the hat? Where'd I put the hat? Right. And I'm thinking, shit, did I leave it on the bed when I was like leaving whatever? Damn. I called Josh. I'm like, go Josh. Can you, can you look for my cowboy hat? I don't know where it is.

bro he goes my heart is fucking beating bro because I know it's like small it's not that serious but imagine if it was and this already happened it's gonna pile up and like make me think even more it's gonna stress me out yeah Josh comes to me and go bro where'd you find it and Josh goes fam I found it on the table I'm like oh shit okay we're good nice

Why are you hyping that up, bro? If you said it was on the bed, I was going to walk out. What are you talking about? No, we're good. We're safe. All right. Thank you everyone for watching this episode of the Jumper Jump Podcast. Make sure to comment, like, subscribe, all the good stuff. Thank you, John, for coming. Shout out, John, for getting wet for the video. I'm getting drenched. This is insane behavior, but...

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