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You know how important sauce is when it comes to people? Like, you can just tell when someone just doesn't have sauce. No, I'm being so deadass. You know what it is? It's not necessarily sauce. What it is, it's deadass, like, personality. Yeah, yeah. It just looks out of place. I feel like if you have...
A certain personality that's like, so, you know the Spongebob episode where there's the normal Spongebob? Yeah. The average person, how does it take for them to grow up exactly like that? What, like? To be like a normie. What is even a normie, though?
I don't know. Like a normal person? For example, what you said, how do you know you don't have the sauce? Yeah. I don't know. That's the norm, you know? Yeah, yeah. I guess. Because sometimes it's like, you have to judge a book by its cover sometimes. But why? Because it's like, I don't know. You can just tell like,
oh fuck it's like you know when a dog can sniff out when someone is scared yeah it's like that's what it is it's like if some guy is like putting on like trying to be a rapper but like I don't know he just doesn't fit the persona but he's wearing these big chains it just doesn't look right man
So you think it's like a... What is that called? Like a identity crisis? Imposter, yeah. Maybe like an imposter. No, imposter is different. Imposter is like you yourself can't think. Oh, we can't think. Or you think you're someone else or you don't think you're that person. Yeah, yeah. Because imposter syndrome is like I don't believe in myself. That's like you don't believe in who you are and you lose like...
Reality. Oh, that is true. Isn't that similar to... There's like celebrity... Celebrity disease. Where it's like... You shouldn't really be looking up to these celebrities. Since they influence us so easy to like... How we act, how we dress. Like that's a disease or something. This is a disease that...
you only look up to celebrities yeah yeah and then like it gets so bad where it's like say if juice world does lean he'll i'll do lean too like that oh that's a stan fam yeah that's what you call a stan but i think it's just nature though yeah it's nature because
if you really take it in, the only reason we really follow people and follow trends and follow celebrities and look at them like that is deadass because of survival. To break it down to the very, very core, it's survival because you know you want to survive and you want to live life like them. So to live life like them, you would do the things they do. But the problem is, and this is the shit that nobody realizes, is
You don't see everything else they do. You see the highlights of the stuff that gets posted. But if there's a celebrity that you see every single thing they do, would you still be a fan? Probably not, bro. I would be like, oh, that guy's actually really depressed. Okay, for example, Kai Sinat, though. You see him a lot. I mean, you probably see him. He did the whole thing for 24 hours. You've literally seen every single second of him. But you didn't see him do the coke behind the scenes. I'm just kidding. Theory, theory.
Theory this guy does massive no, but I hope this amounts of drugs, but I does a lot of like caffeine Yeah, I drink hella caffeine a Red Bull So I'm like Joe that that actually takes a toll out of his body cuz fucking when he did the 24 hours with offset I'm actually asleep, but you know awake so he like he does that shit for real But I know in um in the world war something fuck I might have been would have been World War two yeah that
They gave, like, everybody meth or something. Not meth. Fuck, it was, like, some other... There's a drug. Leave it down in the comments if you guys know. Yeah, yeah. But Logan told me on Jump or Jump before, they prescribed all the soldiers a certain drug to keep them, like...
I mean, shit, to be honest, if I was in the military too and I knew I was going to die and shit, I would want something to be off so I can just like... You can be alert. No, not just alert, just like no fucks given. Yeah. I'm there to like kill. Yo, you know Coca-Cola? Yeah. You know that shit was made by a drug addict? What?
What? Coca-Cola was made by a drug addict. No, I mean, that makes sense because it's super addicting. So I think the story goes a long, long time ago. His name is John Pemberton. So he was a pharmacist and he was part of the Civil War in America. But what happened, he ended up getting injured through the war. Yeah. So they prescribed him morphine. Okay.
And because morphine is mad addictive, he got addicted to it. But since he's a pharmacist, he decided to make something to, I guess, suppress his addiction. Yeah. So he created a formula with coconuts, with, oh, sorry, kola nuts. Kola nuts. With cocaine. What the fuck? Yeah. And then a certain, like, wine. A certain, like, um...
Like an alcohol. Put it all together in one mixture. And he created Coke. And he created what was gonna be the Coca-Cola recipe. Now check this out. So since he was a pharmacist, he started selling it to all these different people at his pharmacy. And people loved it. Because it was really like suppressing all of their whatever they're going through. Now, during the prohibition, what happened? What happened? Banned all alcohol. So to change the recipe, he substituted the alcohol in it
with sugar and it created dead ass coca-cola today which is hella sugar
Low-key, the original recipe had cocaine and those cola nuts. Is that why he named it Coke? It's called Coca-Cola. Yeah, I know, but I swear people just... Yeah, people call it Coke, right? I think they just call it Coke because they put cocaine in it. And he did another thing where the marketing was so nice, they added the color red. And you know the color red like you said before? McDonald's sign that has red in it. Yeah, it's like the scarcity thing. Yeah, yeah, scarcity. I think...
There's a reason like bulls, when they see red, they're really aggravated by it. Because I think there's a certain wavelength that we can't see. But red light, when it shows to us, it triggers. That's why stop signs are red. Yeah, why? Because we see it right away. It's like...
There's something with a brain that can easily describe it or... Easy like... What do you call it? Pick it up and stops us from seeing... Now, check this out. Now, there's a theory because...
the color red okay every time I used to go to like kickboxing championships yeah and like all of these different tournaments I would always bet on who the red or blue side the red I would always like in my head be like oh yo the red gloves are gonna win and I hated bro I hated when I have whenever I had the blue gloves like fuck am I gonna lose no not gonna lie yeah it's like a superstition whenever I sparred there's a I don't know why the chest plates are red and then the flip side is blue
So it's like every time I wore the red there's like hella battle scars and stuff but the blue is super clean because I never wore the blue. It's like a pussy color. So check this out fam. Check this out. So I think there's something about like the color red where it's it's like
I don't know, it distracts you in a way or it makes you see it that you can't pay attention to anything else besides it. You know? So let's say you're boxing somebody with red gloves. They can faint you one way. Oh, yeah, yeah. And then you'll be distracted because you're focused on the color. You won't see their eyes. You won't see their head. And as you guys know, if you're fighters, like, you want to, like...
disguise your hits, move your body different ways. But if you're focused on one thing, that's how you get caught. - In the NFL, they do something too, 'cause it's like, so say a team's jersey is red, or a team's jersey is blue, right?
The opposite team would wear the same color gloves as the team colors. So they wouldn't get called for holding. Oh, shit. One time the team color was white. Yeah. And the guy, Defender, was wearing red gloves. And the ref was like, bro, I can see you from a mile away because you're wearing fucking red gloves. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So from then on, I think that Defender never wore red gloves again. Every time the team came and it was like, that's color. All right.
I'm gonna do this probably but it's like sneaky shit that you have to do too it's little sneaky shit fam low key cause in Taekwondo too cause it's very like not like um like Muay Thai where it's not ethical yeah so a punch is counted as one point right yeah so when you're in close and you're in a clinch you can like just like flick it you can like flick or even like a soft punch when you're inside and it's a point and it will become as a point oh my god bro even if you like do this shit that shit will count like what the fuck
Two flicks equals two splits. Because it's all like target hitting. Yeah. I realized as I got older, Taekwondo is really very strategic because you need to know like the tricks rather than like being physical. But I think anything's like that. Loki, everything's kind of strategic. If you don't have, I guess, the tips and tricks to do something, you're going to be falling behind from everyone else. Yeah.
And I think the moment somebody figures something out, if everybody doesn't evolve to that, everybody's left in the past. You know what I mean? But do you think there's somebody that could change a whole sport just by their playing style? Or even fighting style, I guess. For sure. Steph Curry did that, fam. Everyone...
I heard that they might include a four-point line just because Steph Curry. No way. Yeah, and that shit will change the game up. Fucking even look at, what do you call this? Michael Jordan, the one with the palming hands. Oh, yeah. Or even, yeah, like, I'm not going to lie. I watched old film, and I watched, like, Bob Cousy, like, the plumbers that I thought were shit. They were doing, like, behind-the-back passes. Like, they were doing all that. Wait, what do you mean plumbers? Like, you know how back in, like, the 1800s where basketball was just, like, a bunch of mailmen and plumbers? Yeah.
Word, that's what it was? Because people are saying the NBA is so sick now, but back then it was... Oh, so you're saying that was the crew or that was the competition? Yeah, exactly. I swear they had good competition though. Especially in the 90s, it was mad rough, no? Yeah, it was, but now it's crazy. Athleticism is through the roof. Word. You know how we always say...
Nowadays, everybody wants to be an influencer and nobody wants to be like the trades person or blue collar worker. So I have a theory. All right, what's the theory? This, like I literally thought of this in the shower the other day, fam. So if you really, really take it in, as a child, what was so present with boys toys? Check this out. Remember everybody with the Tonka trucks? Yeah. Now, I have a theory. Check this out, bro. I have a theory.
The people in charge, fam. Yeah. They know once kids start seeing other jobs that I guess appeal to them more artistically or whatever, they're going to stop wanting to do the trades jobs and the blue collar jobs because it's not as, I guess, like enticing. But check this out.
At a young age, they start brainwashing us or start promoting it to us. That's why we see Tonka Trucks, you know what I mean? The construction hats and shit. Remember that show Mighty Machines? It's all about that. And it's on the kids' channel, fam. It's something you would see on Discovery Channel. That shit's on Treehouse and the kids' channels. What else?
Bob the motherfucking builder bro. Yeah. The same shit. Same shit. Mario was a what? Plumber. What the fuck? Check this out fam. Now they're still smart. They know they know that oh man kids aren't really watching TV shows anymore blah blah this and that. The games they're playing I guess it's kind of building I guess like Roblox building. Fortnite building. But it's all online. The one TV show that's still poppin with children today is
Is MF- PAW Patrol bro! PAW Patrol, check this out! Every single character in PAW Patrol is a what? A worker? A blue collar worker! You have Chase, who's a police officer. You have Marshall, who's a fireman. You have Sky, who's a pilot. And the construction bulldog guy bro!
It's all planned. Because they know nobody wants to do all these other jobs. So we have to promote blue-collared workers. We have to brainwash the kids from the jump. Yeah. Throw Bob in. Because, look, Bob the Builder back in the day, that was for us, man. That was for our generation. Handy Manny. That was for our generation. Because earlier than that, the millennial kids, they were growing up with the Tonka trucks. But we didn't play with that anymore. We were watching more cartoons, so they made Bob the Builder. And now...
they're doing Paw Patrol. Don't they? Oh, shit. And then as soon as iPads come into play, now you're just going straight to YouTube. That's why it's getting more like, oh, I just want to become him because I'm not playing with toys no more. Yeah, so it's interesting to see what... If this theory is true and they really do try to push like...
An agenda? Not necessarily an agenda, but try to promote kids to do it. Because I don't think it's bad. Low-key, it's smart. Because we kind of do need that. We need to promote those type of jobs. Because the world would be shit if everybody's just an influencer. Yeah, yeah. You know? Yeah, we need the balance. We need the important...
We need those people. They're important, fam. Who's going to build the roads? Who's going to fix the electricity? Everyone's just like, yo, day of my life, man. Yo, real shit. There's no podcast without electricity. The blue-collared workers, fam. We need them. My cousins came over, too. And my little cousin always comes up to me like, yo, bro, you ruined my friend's childhood. He's always telling me. And he's telling me these theories, right? And I'm like, yo, sometimes the way I talk, I don't know how they explain it.
I don't know. It's like the way I talk, like we talking like kind of like a slang, right? Yeah. And I, I don't know how that would translate to kids. Like, I hope that they're not taking like our slang and like, maybe like they talk to their parents like that. Like, you know what I mean? Word. I never realized it like that. So David Parity, like David Parity had like the,
When they had their run, they had everyone saying, like, I'm cheese. Like, who, what else? Like, I don't know, just a bunch of different slang. So imagine, like, everyone, like, little kids are going up to him and be like, yo, there's this theory. Or, like, what else do we say? If you really bag it. If you really bag it. Like, in kindergarten, though, the teacher's like, yo, if you really bag it, today is Wednesday. Yo, if I was responsible for, like, a kid saying, that's your teacher, yo, that's fine.
That's crazy. If you really bag it. No, but miss, if you really bag it. Yo, what's funny? Just recently, I think it was like two days ago. My dad was talking to my sister. And then my sister said, no, but I don't even know those ends. She said ends to my dad. Did you know what that meant? I think he understood though. I think he understood. I don't even know those ends. They're talking about like directions or some shit.
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But it's just funny to see how little culture that started as like a friend thing or a local thing becomes mainstream or even just like popularized online.
every friend you know because what low-key what we realize is our environment is all of our friends everybody we know and in a sense depending on who you are you kind of influence all of those people yeah you do still like if if I had a friend group they would probably have a little bit of me in them somewhere pause no no yeah but very pause but no no it makes sense because it's like
I don't know. It's like what you attract or what you put out is what you get. So it's like, yeah, your friends would be the same. But you know what I did realize too? Korea's cancel culture is super toxic. Really? That environment. I don't know if you watch Singles Inferno. No, I don't watch it. So Singles Inferno, like the main girl. The dating show, right? Yeah, the dating show. The main girl that everyone liked. I forgot. It was like Ji Yeon or something. Like every time she was known as that pretty girl that always wore designer clothes, right?
And I don't know why, but one guy online found that she was wearing fake Chanel, fake Da Vinci, all on that thing. All on that show. And to be honest, it's not that serious. It's just fake clothing. Everyone does that. Everybody's probably doing that anyway. Exactly. So imagine she had...
the craziest rise to fame and just because someone said that everyone on her ass oh comment her she had to disable all her comments she went off the internet for like two years wow yeah just not posting YouTube videos just cause that petty stuff yo
to be honest, I feel like if they didn't react to it, it wouldn't be a big deal. It wouldn't. It's just like it carries. It's like that thing of when you see a little bit of a weakness, then people capitalize it and then they see, okay, let's keep doing it type shit. And that's what I noticed in celebrities too. A small thing if they mess up
the public will criticize it. But if a normal person does that, they wouldn't be criticized. Yeah, that's true. Because they're always in the limelight, which fucking sucks. I know, it sucks. But at the same time, that's like the price you pay for it just because... Influence comes with that where it's like... Now, it's a responsibility. You know what I mean? As crazy as that is, it low-key is a responsibility because...
All these people kind of look up to you in a sense. Or if they don't look up to you, they're at least looking how your lifestyle is in comparison to yours. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So depending on who you want to be,
You could create a whole culture of people that do good or evil to the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you could be a dead-ass supervillain if you really wanted to. Yeah. And that's the fucking importance of branding, too. Because it's like... Like, I always tell people who start clothing brands, if you, like, don't have a brand and don't post, like, fit pictures and stuff, like, and people think you're cool, no one's just gonna buy a random shirt with words on it. You know what I mean? But, like, if Carlos puts a shirt out with just words on it, everyone's gonna buy it because it's Carlos behind it. You know what I mean? It's more than...
the actual image. It's the art behind it. Yeah, exactly. It's like everything that surrounds it, the idea of it, the energy, everything like that. That's what creates the product. The aura, yeah. There's an aura around your product. Yeah. And...
I think that's why I have a little bit of trouble with like really deciding what I want to put out, especially with clothing now. Because before I would just like throw shit together because I just have an idea and I throw it out. But now I deep shit. Okay. Like rude. Yeah. Now I deep shit. I'm like, okay, I'm only going to create...
like timeless pieces that no matter what like I can look back and be like okay yeah I can still wear it right now I can still wear it then if I would wear it in a baby picture then it's timeless okay okay feel me yeah yeah if you think about it a baby has a tote bag yo if I would copy me if I would be real shit
No, but I mean just the design itself because the typography or whatever it's timeless Yeah, like I always say to Carlos if I catch any what are you guys? I don't care if your fans are jumpers on podcast, bro If I see you rocking a tote bag and I read that shit that says uh, if I was uh, what was it? Uh, no worries. I copy me too Yo, but it's so true fam and the the reason I really put it out is because it's like I
If you don't think about, if you don't think yourself like that, then you're doing something wrong. You should believe that every single time. Because if not, then you're not your biggest fan. And you should be your biggest fan before anybody else. And I want to make sure the people that give me love know that. Because I want y'all to be fans of yourself first before me. You know what I mean? Even though it's my product, even though it's my art,
I want y'all to take your own meaning to it because that's what it's supposed to be. You're supposed to be inspired by a piece of art to make your own, you know? And that's why great, the greatest artists are called the greatest artists, not because of what they've made is because what they've made and how it impacted other people. Yeah.
and they're good Steelers. You know the, I think you talked about this, the three percent rule. - Oh, that's Virgil. - Yeah, so you take a object that you think is really cool, just change it up a bit and then sell it again. That's why he did the Off-Whites. He just literally took the same shoe,
copied it clear and then just wrote Virgil Offway. Yeah. That shit was like the hottest shoe in 2000, whatever. Yeah, because you have to take what's already working and then just remix what's working. Yeah, bro. Yeah. The 3% rule could be flipped. How? Check this out. Into what though? I don't know. This is just my way I see it because 3% is 3% regardless, right? Yeah. What's the other half? Or not other half. Like 97%. 97%, right? So what if you change the 97% but the 3% has...
The original. Look, you would have the same effect. 97% like original yours, but wait, what? Hear me out. I feel like that ratio of something. Like, look, for example, Juice WRLD. 97% of it is a Juice WRLD track. Okay. But 3% of it might be My Chemical Romance. Okay, okay. But you wouldn't know, but the people that love the melodies of My Chemical Romance are...
were feed into it and they could vibe with it but they wouldn't realize because 97% is usual I think when it comes to like those type of things with ratios or even just concepts we have to realize it's never like a one way street like sure you can walk down but you can also walk the other way you know does that make sense to you? kinda yeah leave it down in the comments if that makes sense
You know what I mean? Like, you could go one way, but we don't realize, like, you can always explore. Because even though everybody's headed in one direction, you can just change your perspective. Like, who says I can't walk backwards towards that goal? Yeah, yeah. Like, backwards in the sense of, like, I'm still reaching the goal, but I'm walking this way.
And then what happens when I do that? Everybody else walking starts looking at me. No, that's the same thing. It's like when I started, I think it was back in grade 12. Oh no, back in grade 8. I was dressing the same as everyone. But then I felt super secure with myself because nothing around me was different. And people wouldn't judge me. But literally as soon as I changed up and like
wore the shit that I liked, then it would turn some heads and then that's where insecurity came because it's like, I look, I don't, there's no other guy that I could see on the road that dressed like me. You know what I mean? So I would kind of feel insecure but you have to power through that and just like, you know, after you do like, you'll reap the rewards because people will think you're actually cool and just start looking up to you now so they'll run with you. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Do you think, do you think you still do that today? No.
I catch my... No. It's a bit of both. Like, I add my flair, but I'm always, like... You're following trends? I'm very good with following trends. Yeah. And I noticed that because it's, like...
if you take all my fit pictures from 2018, 2019, 2020, it's all trends. But I just threw in like a little bit of me. You know what I mean? So it's like 97, 3. Yeah, I get that. But that's usually how it goes. Like, I feel like everybody, everybody follows trends. I feel like that's why trend is a trend. Because everyone moves in one direction with it. I think, I think, if we stopped following trends, there would be kind of like a
You know Club Penguin? I know this sounds weird, but like... You know like... Well, everyone just looks super different. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like low-key, there's so many combinations. But the moment there's like so many combinations and you can't categorize everybody as one, then it becomes a thing of like...
You appreciate that person more because it's really them. You know what I mean? Because, look, if you look at Klump Penguin, think about it. Every single person is mad different. Unless you have those people that are in a group and they all dress together. Now,
the moment you do that, you start to believe and you truly like stop judging by a cover as in group settings. Because you would, you would, you would assume somebody is like another person because the way they dress. Yeah. Yeah. But the moment everybody's like mad different and it's such a, it's such an interesting cover, then you wouldn't judge them. You know, like you wouldn't judge them in a way of, um,
I guess categorizations? Right? Like stereotypes? Because no one's in a group. No one's in a group. So it's like, you can't even judge them because, yeah, everyone's singular. Exactly. You know, like, if there's an emo look, everybody addresses emo, oh, they'll probably listen to this music, they'll probably act like this, they'll probably, like, really, uh, what do you call it? What's the word? Like, um, fucking rebellious. Oh, okay, okay. You know what I'm saying? But if the emo person also has pink on and, like, fucking fur...
Then like, oh, interesting. What is that? Like, you don't really know what it is. And if everybody dresses different, then it's weird. Yeah. But I feel like that's not what fashion is. I feel like fashion, this is my theory on it. Yeah. I feel like fashion is...
is actually to categorize yourself to gather yeah kind of because it's like okay because when you're starting off you don't know what to do so it's like you either go into like the tick tock mans the y2k you literally choose your route it's like it's like a starter pack so i don't think i don't think that's the point of fashion i think the point of fashion is to look like someone like someone else damn if you really deep it yeah that's that's so crazy because like who started it first
like if you go back all the way back like holy you know it's uniform that's what that's what started like uniform like we all dressed a certain way in catholic school because we had a uniform we all dressed a certain way if you work as a police officer you have a uniform you know what i mean i was in cadets i had a cadet uniform and if anything was a little bit off you got like penalized or whatever you know yeah so i think the point of fashion is to actually
Maybe as a creative director in a fashion brand, your goal is to create a look that people follow. Yeah, no, for sure. Because this is like the Alix chain that's uniform to you. Remember, like this, like the chain and stuff, this is uniform. So you identify that person with that uniform. You're like, oh, yeah, I'm in that. Yeah, facts, facts. Do you think...
Damn, bro. I feel like we don't even look at anything else out of person besides their clothes from the jump. I guess like their face and haircut. I don't know. Yeah. Do you recognize... I guess do you recognize like...
Movement? Movement. Like, if you've seen someone walk down the street, would you be like... Yeah, no, I can tell. I can tell. Because it's like, if I see a very, like, I don't know, awkward person, like, I don't know how to describe it, but it's like, you can just get a hint of, like, how they are. So if they're awkward, like, maybe they're, like, shelled up. Or, like, if they're walking big and strong, like, oh, that guy's confident. You know what I mean? I notice those things. You know what scares me sometimes? I always think about...
low-key like these little things we do
Let's say you have a tendency to rest your face like this. Okay. Did you know like if you do this like for too long your face... Yeah, slants. Yeah. I saw that too because side sleepers. When you do the inverted and you'll see your mouth go like this and this and this. Yeah, bro. And if you um... Let's say you sit a certain way like your spine will align a different way. And then you're gonna start walking weird. But...
Is there like a perfect thing we're supposed to do? Is it like a perfect posture, I guess? I don't know. I think... I actually don't know. But like there's a healthy posture. I don't know if it's the right posture. But you should always be staying straight up. But this doesn't feel natural, you know? Yeah, like the straight up posture? Yeah, it doesn't feel... I heard you're not actually supposed to stand like that. Okay, yeah. Then... I heard like naturally we're supposed to slouch. Because of...
Our animal instinct. Yeah. Because it like protects us more. Okay. Yeah. Because I'm always like this and I feel comfortable doing this. But I don't know if that's bad. But to a beauty standard. Yeah. Because I think the beauty standard, what it is, is just like what's different. Because if the natural is this, the unnatural becomes the standard. Really? Because the unnatural is what they want to sell you. Yeah.
Oh, fuck. Damn. Zach, the unnatural is that they want to sell you because if you could already achieve it, then they don't have a product to sell you. They don't make money. Really? Because my friend models, right? And he got a haircut. He shaved all his hair off. And I was like, yo, why didn't you get a lineup? He just shaved it off. He's like, no, companies want models to have it all natural. So they don't want you to have that straight lineup. They don't want you to have that thing. You know what I mean? So it's like,
You get what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. It is supernatural. No, but I think in a sense of like other stuff, not necessarily... Let's say models for products. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Like they want you to look perfect. Yeah, I guess. They want you to look like you're made in a lab type of shit. As crazy as it is, like people don't realize...
Guys beauty standards are are pretty like hard to do too. Yeah, like it does take a lot of work to look like fucking Chris Hemsworth Yeah, cuz he takes steroids man's take steroids and they don't realize that yo, it's gonna take a lot to do it But all girls just see it as oh, he's just like out of shape, but you know, it's crazy now It's like before it would um
big designers would never use celebrities as their models, right? Why? Because, I don't know, because... No, that's not true. No, because they never had... At this point, hold on. So they would never have like that, like, I don't know, this perfect face, right? But you know, I said, clout makes you more handsome and more attractive to everyone. Yeah. So now, a bunch of... Even if you have little influence, they'll have you in their runway shows. So...
So like Virgil, he was the first one to... Not the first one, but like he was the first one to like really add everyone. So he had Cardi walking. He had Lancey walking. He had Offset walking. But those were all his friends. I know. Yeah, yeah. But at the same time, it's like now look what happens. That chain continues. Now you see a bunch of just influencers walking the runway. Just because it's like, oh yeah, they all... They're going to pop out because they're there. True. You know what I'm saying? You know, I've seen this...
This commercial. It's a banned commercial for Sour Patch Kids. Have you seen this? No, no, no. What is it? It's crazy. Let me see. Check this out. And there's a theory to it. Okay. There's a theory to it. Okay, okay. So Sour Patch Kids, they dropped this, I think, in like the early 2000s. Watch this. Banned, you said. It's banned, but it has a theory attached to it. Okay, let me see if I can... You get it? Whoa, whoa, whoa.
You see it? Wait. So do you see the red? What does it represent? You know? No. It represents World War II. Who were the enemy?
What? Yeah fam! That's what it represents because the- You know what I mean? The- The Sour Patch Kid, he was pretty much being a- The one in the beginning. Yeah! Oh! That's who he's representing. I know we can't say the word because we're gonna get flagged. And then they had the handshake at the end. Yeah, so this is real. Like this is- This was a conspiracy theory for a while, but it turned out to be real. There's this project, I think it's called the Manhattan Project. Yeah. But-
Fuck, it wasn't called the Manhattan Project. It was something else. Damn! Yo, leave in the comments what it is. But pretty much, what they did, Germany scientists, like the ones that worked on special weapons and all of these biological products, what they did, they made a treaty with the United States to, I guess, use their creations and experiments and their studies and be pardoned for what they did.
for what they did in the war. And they really did that. I think they got sent to... Fuck, I totally forgot exactly where. But there's a facility in the States that housed all of the Nazi experiments. And they used the tech fam. They literally used the tech for all of these different...
I guess like weaponry, medicines. And I think there's certain medicines that wouldn't even been created if not for the war. And we can thank for like to this day. I forgot like exactly which ones though. Yeah. There was a guy who on TikTok where he's like, I don't know, he was studying like
some little medicine for cancer too. And everybody in the comments is like, yo, I'm glad I seen this. I'm glad it popped up on my For You page because he was like crying because like the test came in and I guess like it healed a bit of it, right? Yeah. And he was crying because he's like, I've been in this game for eight years and stuff like that. But everyone in the comments is like, yeah, you're going to go missing in like three weeks.
three days buddy like that medicine like you're saying that you're going viral and you're saying that you can cure cancer yeah goodbye fam like that's like a death sentence like imagine going out like that you know i mean oh and in the the last episode at the end you mentioned um the blue hole yeah there was like i don't know if you heard um yuri a guy named yuri lipski nah no no no who's that yeah he went out like with a crazy death because his whole death was flogged
So he was on vacation in Egypt and there was that blue hole that you said is like the name of that that little um The little thing that you have to go down. There's a blue hole in Egypt. Yeah in Egypt What was the one that you're talking about? There's so many blue holes. Really? Yeah, there's blue holes all around the world Okay, so the blue hole in Egypt I think it goes like maybe 300 feet down if you really go past it, right? Fuck, that's deep
And what do you call this? There's an arch. If you get low enough, there's an arch and there's a tunnel, right? And if you swim past that tunnel, you can see the Red Sea, right? So that's why a lot of people go and try it, right? But the dangerous thing is, it's like if you go down past the arch,
There's like a little ledge, right? And the water pressure is so bad that if you slip off that ledge, you'll go down. Oh, you get taken by the current. Yeah, thousands and thousands, right? Oh, shit. So this is the crazy thing. Yuri wasn't like allowed to...
near that hole because people knew that he was going to do that dive, right? So bro said, fuck that. He said, he put on his little camera and dived in, right? And everything was going smooth like when he first got in. Like you can still see what was going on. Yeah. And then, I don't know...
He hit like that ledge that I was talking about, right? And it got darker and darker to the point where he hit the ground. Oh, fuck. So his gear got... Fuck. No, so when he hit the ground, he looked at his watch and he was like, oh, fuck. He's trying to put that buoyancy thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he can float back up. He was pressing it. That shit was not working. Wait, so he...
Yes, fam. And all you can see is like, he's like 500 feet down on his watch. Because I guess, I don't know why, but he didn't do like the right gas. You need a right oxygen, a mix of oxygen. You went by yourself? Yeah. Fuck, that's crazy. So I don't know, people are saying our theories that this was just, he just wanted to do a suicide. But he wanted to go out in a really cool way. You know what I mean? I see. And then in his thing, all you can hear is...
Ah, that's so... Right? And he was slanted. So imagine, he was dying, like still sliding down. Because the water pressure kept pulling him out. Kept pulling him in. And this whole thing, everyone was like, oh yeah, his family was like, yeah, my thing was missing for a long time. Can someone look for him? And then when they discovered him, his vlog camera was still running. Damn. So they processed it and they watched it, fam. Damn. And it was all like...
Yeah. That's crazy, bro. It's a crazy way to go out. But I don't know why he did... Like, there's theories saying that, like, why would he go alone and why would he go in with the wrong gas? Even though he knew. So he, like, kind of planned it, I guess? I don't know. Maybe. Who knows? There's some crazy shit out there, bro. I was getting excited because I thought it was going to be, like, a center of the earth type of story. I thought he was going to, like, pop out in the center of the earth or something. Bro hit the ground. You know how far you have to be to hit the ground? Yeah. Holy shit, man.
The guy probably saw Moses. No, let me not joke around. Wait, what? No, because Moses parted the Red Sea. Oh. No, that's fine. I heard in the Red Sea there's remnants of the weapons that the Egyptians were chasing. Where? Yeah. Maybe that's why people go and they try to see. You know what I mean? Yeah, maybe. Yeah. I heard there was dead-ass swords and there's like hella weapons. Yeah, yeah. That was under the Red Sea when it was parted. So that's like...
Proof that it happened. Yeah. Yeah, there's there's recent news to like, um, you know the the public outside pools like yeah Yeah, yeah in what do you call this in Kansas? There was a pool that people were swimming in and for two days. They didn't know that a dead body was down How do you not see that shit? Yeah, so look look I'll show you a picture so there was this girl named I think her name was Marie Johnson and there was a picture of her and
And you can see like, this is right before she drowned. So you can see in the water, it was kind of murky. Like you can't see the bottom. Ew. Right? Wait, that's not a pool. It is. It's an outside pool. That's a dirty pool, bro. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So what she did, apparently, there was a slide and like the kid that she was with, she went down first and then Marie went right after her, right? And the kid went up, Marie went up like right after and did like a big breath. Oh.
Then went down and never came back up right and obviously it's a busy pool No one's gonna fucking like look at the the lifeguards are yeah, so this is where it gets frustrating the kid that she was with Yeah, was like oh this person Didn't come up. Can you check mm-hmm one lifeguard was like bro? I'm on break I'm not gonna check that's right the other lifeguard said yeah. I'll check didn't do a check and
Right? So this is crazy too. Marie's friends that was there with her, since it's a busy pool, you can't really see under, they were like, Marie probably just went home with her friends. She probably went home early. Right? And it wasn't until like teenagers snuck into the pool at night and saw her body finally floating up because like the gas finally decomposed. You know what I mean? Yo, it's definitely the, you know what I mean? It's definitely the lifeguard's fault. That's the lifeguard's fault. Because I'm a lifeguard. Yeah. And you...
You always have to watch the water, fam. It's never like a, oh, I can't at the moment. Like, you have to be on game. Yeah. It's fucked. Do you ever, as a lifeguard, do you ever clean the pool? Nah, that's somebody else. That's maintenance. Really? Okay. Because the reason why it got so dirty is because they thought the filters were going to clean the bottom of the pool. But I don't think that's how it works, right? You actually have to...
To scrub it? No, once in a while, like, you get, like, there's a machine that goes in. Yeah, exactly. It's kind of like a vacuum. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then... But lifeguards, we do know how to change the pH of the pool. So we do, like, the chlorine check and shit. Is it the right color? And then put it back in or, like, change it. And there's a thing we do called shock the pool. This is, like, lifeguard stuff for you guys. But let's say somebody shits in the pool, right? Okay. That's what you do. So we go...
Oh yeah. Everybody out, blah, blah. Like get out, get out of the water. There's shit. We don't say that. We don't say that. But what we do, we do this thing called shocking the pool. So we take like this powder. It's a chlorine powder and we just throw it in and mix that shit up like Kool-Aid. But with still people swimming? No, we take everybody out. That's why I'm like, there's shit.
Did you actually say this shit? No, bro. Then how do you get people out of the pool? Just say, get out of the pool? Yeah, we just clear, like, clear the pool, clear the pool, blah, blah. But you know why? It's like, when somebody says clear the pool, my first instinct is like, yeah, someone definitely took a shit, man. Yeah, low key. Low key. Like, everyone's just looking down, like, especially in Grey Wolf Lodge. Like, that happened to me once, and I was floating in, like, the lazy river. Ew. And somebody said, get out of the pool. I'm like, look at that. I'm like, yeah, fuck this pool.
scavenger like i think the one thing i really remember with lifeguarding yeah is this thing that we do let's say you're like really really far away and you want to know if everything's okay yeah how would you signal to somebody that everything's good like your other lifeguard yeah let's say you're like fucking like a mile away like how would you signal to them like everything's good i don't
I don't know man. Like waving without people knowing right? Nah just like to even just say yeah everything's good like without walkie talkies and shit from far away. Yeah just give them like a cowabunga or something. You can't really see though. Like you can't see if it's a thumb or if it's a fist or whatever it is right? Okay. Cause actually when you put your hand up like this that means um something's wrong. Okay. But what you're supposed to do and this is what I learned. Yeah. When you're a lifeguard if you go like this that means everything's okay.
Like, all good. That's what it means. So this is all good. You can go down. This is all good, yeah. Yeah. Like this. Yeah. But yeah, fam. It was so funny because it's like the lifeguards have such a tough job because in Waterworld, I swear, like, if you're too big, you have to tell the kid,
to go down like you can't go on this ride right what do you mean so like uh some of the the rides you you can't be like too like big right if you go down because you might get like fat yeah yeah too fat right and like lifeguards have such a tough job because imagine you're a kid and you walk up past these people right yeah and then the the lifeguard tells you to walk back down you have to like it's like a shame walk like you gotta walk no this past all the fucking people it's just like damn man i can't go on the slide that sucks man i mean yeah
At least they get their steps in. Yeah, that's so fucked. Yo, Loki, I'm a little bit too passive-aggressive sometimes. Yeah, you are, man. You know what it is, though? It's not even like being rude. It's like trying to find a way to be nice. What do you mean, trying to find a way? You could be nicer not in a passive-aggressive way. No, like, you know how... I guess so. Yeah. No, but I mean, like...
You have to say something, no? If there's something going on, you have to say something's going on. But I think, I don't know. If nobody addresses it to you, let's say like, I don't want to give an example, but let's say you're doing something that's not good for you. Everybody knows it's not good for you, but it's hard to tell you it's not good for you. You would say something? Yeah, you have to somehow. And the best way to do it is in a passive aggressive way, feel me? So it's still like...
I would feel way more shit that you just told me in the past. Nah. At least it uplifts you. It's motivating. It depends. Maybe if they have the same humor, maybe.
I guess I guess it depends. Yeah, cuz your commute your comedians are way different than my comedians that I like You like I should don't know I can't name other What about um, you don't like Bobby Lee anymore Bobby Lee was not he's like a good podcaster to me, but he's not like funny thing true He's just loud. What do you think is the funniest thing you've heard? Oh probably a Theo Vaughn yeah, when he was like, um, there's like
I was like, I'm dyslexic. This girl's like, oh, I'm dyslexic. And then, Tiawan's like, hell yeah, let's see them tits. Like, no, Tiawan is a watching you choose. Wait, did he get cancelled for that? No, he didn't. No, like, people tried to. He tried to, but you can't cancel it. Yeah, you can't cancel it with a comedian. But I remember somebody tried to cancel it for some shit like that. But since, like, I'm very, like, um...
I don't like people being loud in public. I don't know why, but like... What do you mean? Like, Jaden Hayden is a great example. Like, they'll be loud and they'll say their intrusive thoughts in public. Like, around me and like, everyone could hear it. I'm like, bro, you can just whisper that to me. Like, you don't have to say that. And they don't give a fuck. So, just a comedian saying his intrusive thoughts is so funny to me. Because it's like, that's out of the blue.
True. Why do you think it aggravates you when the public hears? Because it puts more attention on us. Oh, like you're trying to be incognito? Yeah, of course. And I have social anxiety. So imagine someone says something outlandish and now all eyes are on me. Fuck, I'm like this. True. I see. You can tell too. When I say... I remember there was this one time in university. The teacher said a joke about...
And I think he said something about me. And then... And I didn't like the joke. So I just, like, pretended it wasn't about me. And I just... Yeah. Really? But it was so funny. Because he was really trying to get a reaction. Out of you. And I think... Like, if you ever don't like a joke, don't give a reaction. Why? Because they'll learn. It'll be awkward? No, because they'll learn. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, let's say...
Somebody's like quote unquote like bullying you. Oh, yeah, you're supposed to like not react. Yeah fam He was saying some bullshit. I forgot what he was saying. But anyways, this professor did not like me. Yeah. He said some shit to me. I just said like this No way, no. My mind is crazy. And there's no one behind me. And then he said something like, yeah you...
Oh, that's so crazy. I know what you're going to do. Now you look stupid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're trying to make me look stupid. You look stupid now. And then he tries to, like, explain the joke. So, man. Exactly. He starts stuttering. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If anybody's trying to do, like, harm to you in any way, all you have to do is, I guess, like, combat it how you would hate to be combated. Yeah, yeah, that's true. So, the silent look back combo, very deadly still. Deadly. The...
Deadly fam. Just give them a moment of silence fam. Just to think of what they said. Deadass bro. It's war. This is real war tactics dog. Honestly, I think there's this book I read. It was The Art of War, but it was like remixed because it kind of translated a little bit better. But after I read it, I started to see, I guess, social interactions differently. Because a lot of social interactions is very...
It's very people trying to bring you down. Bring you down? That's for the most part, yeah. A lot of people try to do that and pass it off as like entertainment. How? Like joking around? They'll be like, oh, that was just a joke. No. Fuck. Leave it down in the comments so you know what I'm talking about. But like, let's say...
A great example is if a girl's fishing for compliments. Okay. Girls fishing for compliments. So, or even it could be a guy too. But the moment you give them a compliment and they don't reciprocate, somebody loses, somebody wins.
You get me? Yeah, I get it. And to tell if somebody is really like there for you is if they give you positive energy first. First or back. They reciprocate. Okay. And go throughout your interactions and think about that. You'll see a whole plethora of people.
But could you tell when, because it's easy to reciprocate energy even though you're not feeling like it. Because waiters do that all the time. Like, oh, hey, how's it going? No, you can tell. What I'm saying is there's fake people that act it, but there's real people that you can tell. You know what I mean? And I think the moment you start realizing it is the moment your circle changes. Because that's what happened when I was like,
I guess first year uni. Yeah. Remember when I was like really like switching up my friends and shit? Yeah, I know. It went from like Montclair jackets to cool shit. This guy's hanging out with actual cool guys, fam. Montclair jackets, bro. You know the exact person I'm talking about too. Saw him in New York. But yeah, bro. It's cool though. It's like even though I don't have like...
lots of friends like i know exactly like the quality of friends that would be at my wedding which is so crazy it's like yeah i know who's gonna be standing like beside me and you know yeah because at the end of the day bro even if you just have like one good good homie that's all that that's all that really matters i feel like the more people you have in your life you kind of have like a responsibility to know yeah because as being their friend you have to really like be their friend you know that's why the ones i really really like
hang with all the time, I make sure that I'm willing to do sacrifice and they're willing to do it as well. Because if it's not like that, then it's a very exchangeable thing. It's like, oh, this time, this time, this time, this time. But when it's like a sacrifice here, you don't think about sacrifice there. You know what I mean? It's blessed. That's why there's so many relationships that are very transactional. Like even just even a girl that you...
are dealing with, especially when I was younger, man. Yeah. It's such a transactional thing and it feels ungenuine and it kind of eats at your soul. Like you start being somebody else because of how they treat you. Damn. So you're just on their agenda now. Yeah. And a lot of people like...
Don't see it. A lot of people don't see it when nobody teaches them or nobody I guess tells them. Because you could be in your own world. You could be in like a whole new reality. And you think that's right. But in a sense, like if you're happy, you're happy. But a lot of people, they don't realize they could be happier. And obviously like I feel like if you're in that type of thing, short term, yeah, you feel happy. But long term is like...
Damn, like I wasted all this time, you know, being someone I wasn't for her or him. It sucks, bro. Yeah, bro. It eats at you. The biggest thing, I just never want to make the same mistakes again. That's all that matters. Like even if I had like a bad go at something, as long as I don't make the same mistake...
It's blessed, bro. Yeah, yeah. It's in the past. That's good, that's good. That means you learned something. Yeah, that means you learned something. You're not doing the same shit. Because that's what insanity is. If you do the same shit over and over and then don't change with whatever the outcome is. There was a really creepy video. I don't know why I was watching at 4 a.m. But there's two people who escaped the psychiatric ward.
And it was just them in front of a tree. And one guy was like all mummied up. Like, you know how they had tapes on their body? Oh, shit. He escaped somehow. And the interaction was so crazy. What do you mean mummy? Like, so imagine tape. Just tape. You have tape on their head. He duct taped him. Yeah, they duct taped him because he's, what do you call it? He's psycho. Oh, shit. And they escaped. So imagine him just hopping around. It was so creepy. At night, just him bunnieing around. And then him just looking at the other psychiatric patient that he escaped with.
just bouncing around and the other girls like touching his face it was so like it was so simple but it was so creepy at the same time you know what I mean yeah where was this? I don't know it was some like random video that I seen yeah yeah but some shit is super creepy too
I feel like there's not a lot of creepy shit in Toronto. There isn't. I couldn't name one thing that's like, oh, fuck, we can't go there because it's haunted. Except for that... I don't know. But the TD Bank's not even a fucking thing. Wait, what? Remember the TD Bank guy that jumped off? I never heard about that. No, I told you on the podcast before. Way before. Oh! He was testing the thing. Yeah, yeah. On...
on take your kids to work day yeah yeah that's crazy and then if you take um if you uh what do you call this if you lean into the glass you actually feel the push that's why oh yeah i found out even uh because sam and kobe did this too i found it even crazier house than the the one you said last time in toronto not in not in toronto somewhere else but i don't know if you uh heard about the sale house
Nah. Have we talked about this? The sale house? Nah, I don't think so. And so because the whole point of this was like in the house there was like a demon disguised as a girl. And there's a video where the guy comes in and he's like a whole like ghost guy. And he was like, guys, look, what is that? It's a girl. So medium can see. Yeah, medium could see. Right? So this house was in Kansas, right? Yeah.
And there was a wife and husband named Tony and Debra, right? That moved in. And they had a kid. So they turned the whole attic into like a nursery. They had everything like set up and stuff like that. And I don't know why from that point, everything started going crazy. So imagine your candles, right? When you light it, it doesn't go down.
The house the candles in this house went up. Wait, what the fuck? Yeah, so it started forming more More thing and the flame kept rising. What the fuck? Yeah, so imagine the doors flipping whatever and uh, Deb I mean, uh, the the husband noticed when he went downstairs in his basement There was a pentagram carved down in the floor. No, right? So imagine
when the the guy came home one day it was super chill like his wife was sleeping up above and then all you notice he said he got hit with something harder than a truck wait it got it it
flinged him across the room and literally out of his laced boots he had laced boots on and it flung him a force oh flung him across and pinned him down to the floor no and deb saw this but was too scared to say anything obviously because she was too scared like to to anger it right yeah yeah and i don't know why but after that they like they still stayed in this house and slept
in this house right and when they were sleeping you could hear a creek go into their bed and a creek what do you call this close their door fuck that shit and their baby in the other thing was crying but Devin thing was so scared they're not mortals
moving they're not they don't even want to check right and you know the when he was pinned to the ground yeah yeah deb lifted his back i don't know why but all these stories contain like scratches yeah a lot that's a common thing and then it was so crazy every time they walked out of their their living room and up the stairs there would be a force so crazy that it would you can see the static shock
And like you would walk up the stairs, you would feel the static and it would like shock you. Yeah. Right. And all the pictures, it got so crazy. Like all the pictures I'll put up on screen that there was a blurred image. So there was obviously something going on. Yeah. Something's going on. So Sam and Kobe went like they did their whole thing. They're like, yo, are you here and stuff? Obviously you hear the the he was just getting tormented by the thing. And I guess they they moved out the house. I think they took down the whole house, too. Damn.
Yeah, I mean shit might as well for imagine imagine fam imagine like roll if it was like you heard that a lie Why did top I actually don't know no, but you actually heard that though. I was that was not no bullshit You know I do fam like get some water guns for that shit with holy water just a lot You know what my um
You know about the blue car, right? The blue car that I have was actually passed down to me by a person who died. Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah. So the blue car, whenever I drive it... Wait, somebody you know? Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, so my mom's old, like caretaker. Oh, okay, okay, okay. So she died, and we have this ongoing joke that she's like, oh, yeah, she's always there with us, right? In the car.
And every time I drive this car, fuck shit happens, man. So like I scratched, I scratched it up. Like I ran over some shit, but whenever I'm in the Jeep, the Jeep, I took it to a pastor, the pastor blessed it. And then my, my auntie Rosie, she, she flinged holy water all across my car. Yeah. That one I've never like, you know, got into God willing, you know what I mean? So it's weird just seeing like,
damn, that blue car is really, I can't drive that one no more. Yo, honestly, it's a good idea to always get your car blessed. Yeah. Because car accidents are dead ass like the number one way to die. I think in like first world countries. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's that and heart disease or heart disease first and then that. One time I was talking to my friend and I really didn't understand his situation because like he would always drive speed limit and
And then I was like, my other friends would make fun of him. He's like, yo, this guy does not lane switch. He doesn't like go past it. Like he will never go past it. And then he told me, he's like, yeah, because I got into a super bad car accident. It's like whenever I get in the car, it's like I don't want to drive, but I have to. Yeah. It's a trauma reaction. Low key, I could say that for myself too, because I did get in a bad car accident before. And it's not because, that's not the reason I don't drive anymore, but I still think about it. I didn't know that. What?
What happened? Yeah, I got in a bad car accident when I was like... When you first got your license? No, no, no. This was like before I started driving. Oh, shit. So this was... I still drove. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But in the back of my head, it gave me a good experience to the safety. The importance of being safe. Yeah, yeah. Because you could be reckless and yo, you could deadass do whatever you want.
But you face the consequences. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? You can speed. Go ahead. Mans can speed. You can fucking drive with their toes. You face the consequences. Maybe you don't. But, you know what I mean? The possibility you do. Or would you rather just avoid everything and do it at your pace and your safety? Yeah, yeah. That's why the speed limits the thing. You know what I mean? Sometimes it's, you know what I mean? Are you in a rush to what? Yeah. Is it worth risking everything?
Yeah, it's a rush to your eternal. It's cool to go fast and shit, but you don't want to speed up your death You know, I mean whoo, that's a bar. Oh, wait, say again. So yeah, it's fun to go fast, but you don't want to speed up your death Yeah facts exactly. You don't want to like rush to your your yeah, you're right. Yeah, because even though even though we think Like I know this is my anxiety talking but sometimes when everything's too good I remind myself like
You ever heard that quote, and this too shall pass? Yeah, I think I know what you were talking about too. Yeah. This too shall pass. Yo, sometimes when everything's too blessed, I think like, okay, let me sit with it. But just remember, like everything doesn't be like this forever. It's fine. Yeah. Because it will pass. Sometimes, yo. And when something bad happens, it's good to remember like,
You know what I mean? Yeah. That will pass and good times will come again. See, some things like sometimes I like when I'm having these great moments, it's like I kind of manifest something bad going to come up because it's like I noticed like what you said. You're sitting in everything so perfect and my life like super perfect for a time. And I'm like, fuck, man, like it doesn't stay this way. And then I start thinking like, oh, fuck, something's going to bad happen and probably manifest. Right. So I'm like, yeah, I got to start working on that.
Yeah, that's bad. Yeah, you shouldn't do that. No, because I'm like super enjoying my life. And then like, I'll be like, yo, this is too perfect. Wait. Because there's always hills in life. It's not never like this. You know what? Do you think you deserve? Deserve?
I don't think I deserve it. I just don't know. I feel like it just happens. No, but I think a lot of like for me, especially when I feel that way, it's a thing of do I deserve to be blessed right now? And if not, what could I have done or what should I be doing? Okay, yeah. And then that's a thing of like... But that is also my anxiety talk. Yeah. But God blesses you with a lot of things. No, super. But you have to remember like what are you doing...
in return of that yeah i know yeah you know because you have to be doing the good work too you can't just be reaping benefits yeah and especially if you're just reaping benefits all the time then do you even deserve more because what he's already given you yep you know 100 bro and everybody should think like that because you never wanna i guess take for yourself and run away yeah like you want to be there you want to be
For what brought you there, you know, not necessarily like just for yourself Yeah, because the more I pray and stuff is like and you get deeper into your faith You always question like yo, I'm getting blessed all these things But like fam do I like it questions me like do I really like why why why me? Why are you blessing me? You know, do you ever get that? I always think about it in the sense of it's because what I'm about to do. Mm-hmm. Okay, so
Yeah. Because I've had those questions like, damn, like, I'm super blessed and like, I don't know why it's happening to me. But it's like, at the end of the day, it's like, okay, since I realize the blessings, at least I can go in and bless others. You know, at least do something. Yeah. You know what I mean? So maybe he has a greater purpose for me and shit like that. And
Maybe this is it right here. You just live your life. I don't know if you guys have seen the Creator Culture podcast. Man, we were spitting, man. I think that was my best podcast that I've ever done. And I was literally sitting back and just like... Whenever I had the mic, I was like, yo. And people don't realize like Iron Sharp...
Iron really sharpens iron. Imagine you're sitting with a great talker and people might think that, oh yeah, I'm dumb compared to Carlos in this podcast. But fam, imagine you put me in another podcast and I've been talking to Carlos my whole life, fam. Yeah, I'm a professional. That's what I'm saying. You're a professional too, though. So imagine it's like...
Like, this thing is dead as, like, training. So when Carlos can send me off... Yeah, you can take on everything, bro. Like, you feel me? Like, yo, I might put in those clips of us talking because those were fire clips. Real shit. Because, bro, honestly, you training and you becoming a great speaker, it translates to everything else that you do. Yeah, yeah. And even though, like, it's a...
You hear me talking and then you think, oh shit, it's not as good as that, blah, blah. That doesn't matter because you're a better talker than episode one. That's all that matters, fam. That's all that matters. Because you have to always compete with yourself and how you can see yourself doing better. Yeah, yeah. You know? And that's the greatest feeling of the freedom when you stop looking at anything else and taking a step back and being like,
oh shit, I really changed. Like me changed. Like I did something different. I'm proud of myself because the moves I made because of who I was before and who I am now and who I want to become. Yeah. Because I don't know, people don't realize like change is a very hard thing to do. A lot of people are going to like
Like, even changing your mindset is super difficult. Because it's comfortable. Yeah, yeah. Because it's very comfortable. Exactly. And a lot of people don't want to do it, but, like, for the... Not even for us, but, like, for the people that are watching, you guys probably did change with us, too. So it's like, yo, you know, don't stress yourself, you know? Yeah. Even Johnny Manziel, he was like, um...
uh, he got on an interview. He's like, yo, I'm like 29 or whatever right now. And, and it's such a bad thing for me to say, I don't know what I'm doing in life and shit like that. Cause I'm still changing every single day, but that's such a bad thing to other people. No, that's a great thing. It's like, you're changing every day. What do you mean? That's a bad thing. Yeah, no, it's good. Loki. It's very good to always like take yourself out of something comfortable and then seeing where, where you strive. Right. Like my dad told me before, um,
Like if you didn't like throw me in the water and see what I could do then there would be no reference point Yeah, you know there would be no there'd be no like let's you really have to test your limit And I said this to to Empson and and Matt today, but we were talking about How do you know how do you know your potential like we're talking about that shit, and I told them there was this one month like straight up a whole month and
That I was doing this podcast. I was doing the Can't Tell Me podcast. I was vlogging. Yeah, yeah. I was doing Ox Wars. I was creating the game Ox Wars. Like, working on all the graphics and rollout and all of that shit. I think that was 2022. Yeah. And on top of that, I was, every single morning, I did a run. Oh, yeah. Just a kilometer run. But, like, I would wake up early and do it. And work on those five things. Mm-hmm.
For a whole month. Every single day. I went to the hospital. Oh, shit. I went to the hospital because I had a panic attack and I couldn't take it. It fucked me up. But that was your potential. You reached it. I saw where the threshold was. So, like, alright. So, this is what I can do. And, no, but it's important to know, like...
Because now, moving forward, I'm going to take care of myself. Yeah. And I'm not going to push myself to, you know, to limits that will harm me. But now I can see, like, okay, it's smarter to do it this way, this way, this way, rather than all at once. And I can really see where...
my my health and my work ethic can coincide you know so now instead of like doing the run you just take out the run and you're you're almost at the potential but you're not like killing yourself you know i mean yeah you can do you can do different things like and it's sometimes it's important to just not focus on too much at once and just focus on what you truly want because you can cut out it's like trimming fat off like a steak yeah to make it tasty like
cut out this part that you don't need blah blah and now you have a beautiful stick like there's so much extra that you cut off but those trimmings you didn't necessarily need for you were you having like were you having fun while you're doing a bunch of these things or was it more like work i was having fun okay i was having fun but it's a lot yeah because i feel like when i reach my full potential like how i think my potential is is that i'm having fun and i'm in such a flow state i don't even realize i'm in i'm in that mode like people
people just people realize it for me like oh they tell me like oh like yo calm down a bit you know i think that's when i reached my potential i think the full potential this is my thing the way i see it i think full potential in anybody is when they're faced with the biggest challenges but they can still overcome that's full potential in my opinion not when it's going easy yeah i know because the the hard the hard that's what makes the champions fam it's not the easy stuff fuck
Fuck, everybody can do the easy stuff. But if you can, if you had run a great project while you're down bad and still come out clean, that's your true potential. That's like your peak. You know what I mean? And everything will work out for you anyways. Like, I don't know. A lot of people don't realize that everything in life will work out for you because you've definitely gone through a challenge before and you've overcome it. But some people don't take challenges though. That's the thing. That's the thing.
That's why it's important to guide people to take those risks and show them it's real, it's possible. Because a lot of people are scared of that. It's easy for us because we're surrounded by a lot of creatives. There's a lot of people that wish to do it, but they're afraid of something. Something's holding them back. They can't see the vision behind it.
They just have to jump in fam. That's what it is. That's why jumpers jump. I know. Yeah. That's true. But yeah. I like that. I like that. That's why jumpers jump bro. Just do it bro. Because at the end of the day when you're old and you're telling all your kids like shit that you did in life you don't want to just tell them you sat around bro. I want to tell them I rode a horse. You know what I mean? Like I saw a hippopotamus and shit. That's what I'm saying.
You know what I mean? I climbed Mount Everest. Nah, I'm not going to do that. Literally, Drake's YOLO motto is so sick. We only live one life, so just do it, fam. YOLO, man. We have to start bringing that motto back, bro. Nah, YOLO's great, bro. I don't hear people saying YOLO anymore. I can't do YOLO. No, no. YOLO is coming back. That's like saying swag. Yeah, but the swag era is coming back.
I'm calling it. Oh, no. I'm going to start wearing I love boobies thing and I love my haters and the Tosa. What is it? Tosa? What? Isn't it Tosa? No, it's Tosa, right? T-O-S-A? No, it's T-S. No, that's a Mandela effect. It's Tosa, fam. It's a dollar sign. T-dollar sign S-A. Oh, is it? Yeah, T-dollar sign S-A, right? But I guess that's coming back too, so...
Film me YOLO, man. Oh, no, man. YOLO's YOLOers. I can't do it with the... I can't do it with that, bro. Why? No, we have to like...
We have to update it, bro. We can't go back. No, like we can't go back to exactly how it was. It has to be an update. You know why I loved it? Because it's like in the swag area, you knew you didn't have to have designer clothes to be swag. That's designer clothes. No, it's not. No, back in the swag area, you were like the, you know, the gun with the Mickey Mouse. That's a brand. Okay, but still at the same time, you knew who had swag, you know? No, but you knew who had swag based on brand.
No, no. You could... It's better now. Theoretically, it's actually way better now. Because you don't have to be wearing a popular brand to be looked as cool. You can be wearing blank stuff. Really? No, no. And it's just the way you put it on, you look good. But...
Back in the day, you would only look good if it had a logo you liked. But if you did the jerking shit, you would be cool. I guess. But now it's like if you hit the hips, then you're cool. I guess it's the same shit, just evolved. That's what I'm saying. It's better now, bro. It's always better, man. Life gets better. It's always better. Just look at it from the brighter side, bro. Yes, sir. Because if you always, I guess, look to the past, then you're fucking...
The future doesn't feel as good because you're always like looking behind you and then you're not excited for the future. Were you ever, were you ever before? Like you, you just thought about too much of the past. Like when did you like get excited about your future? Cause I know a lot of people are not excited about the future. I don't know. What's your advice? I still look at the past too though. Yeah. I look at the past in a sense of like, um, like homage. Yeah. Like, Oh, I remember when I did this, let me try it again. Or in a sense of like, um,
I used to like these things. Let me show that I used to do these. The happiest I've ever been in my life and the feeling I got was like, oh yeah, I'm supposed to be here right now. Was dead ass when I was making clothes and I was like, yo, this is my, I feel like this is my passion. I'm following through with it. And I was so happy. I'm like, yeah, I'm actually excited now because it's like, you know, I made money doing this. So it's like, yo, I can do anything. You know? Yeah. You just gotta feel.
What do you think the new message is going to be behind your brand? Behind my brand? I don't know. Because right now it's very like opposite of Spencer Barbosa. It's like, you got to be pretty and shit. It's like pretty boys, stuff like that. But I don't know. It's just got to come to me. Literally, what happens in my life changes. My brand changes when what happens in my life. Because, you know, I wasn't doing smoking. I wasn't drinking and stuff like that. Sober society. Now it's like, boom. Like, I like dressing up and looking good. Boom, pretty boy. Where do you think it's headed?
No idea. No idea? But I know it's definitely an Off-White to a Pyrex. Yeah. It's a stepping stone. Oh, so you're going to make a new brand out of it? Yeah, yeah, for sure. Because you know how Off-White went? I mean, Pyrex was like the street wear. So you're going to name it something else? Yeah, of course. It's probably going to be like, I don't know, some crazy French name too. Why French? I might just troll and just pretend it's like a...
really high that's Comme des Garcons low key yeah yeah you know Comme des Garcons is Japanese what the fuck yeah yeah yeah Comme des Garcons is a Japanese brand it's French and it's literally play with boys but it had a bunch of guys thinking it was cool that's what it means no it means like boys oh yeah I like boys or something like that but it had the whole streetwear in a chokehold bro so I might just my my new band might just be the biggest troll and it might just pop off the biggest troll yeah I might just name it Eclair
Imagine wearing a Claire. Like a dessert? No, no, no. Just imagine. It sounds fancy. Oh, isn't a Claire a dessert? Yeah, it is though. It is. So imagine wearing a Claire. Cannoli. Cannoli's kind of hard, actually. Cannoli's kind of hard. I would buy some shoes that are called cannolis. That's tough. We get the cannoli ones, yo. That's hard. But yeah.
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