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EP.212 - DRAKE UMG LAWSUIT, UNITED HEALTHCARE CEO TRUE CRIME & DORA THE EXPLORER THEORY

2024/12/9
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Carlos Juico分享了他在洛杉矶和多伦多两种不同环境下与人交流的体验。在洛杉矶,他感到紧张和不知所措,而在多伦多,他却能轻松自如地与任何人交谈。他认为,这种差异可能是由于多伦多是他家乡,让他更有自信。他还谈到,要提升自我,应该积极尝试与不同的人交流,而不是被自我设限。他认为,如果将自己的目标定得更高,就能拥有更大的可能性。 Carlos Juico还表达了他对社会阶层的看法,他认为,如果总是与社会底层的人为伍,自己也会变成底层的人。他鼓励人们要提升自己的眼界和格局,不要被社会现状所限制。

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Why did people start ignoring celebrities on social media?

A TikTok trend suggested ignoring certain celebrities to reduce their influence, targeting Kim Kardashian initially, which led to a noticeable drop in her engagement.

What is the 'data theory' discussed in the podcast?

The data theory posits that every action and purchase is data collection for companies, which use this data to manipulate consumer behavior and preferences.

What was the theory behind the creation of Pokemon Go?

The theory suggests that Pokemon Go was created by Niantic to collect geographical data for satellites, using players to gather precise location information in areas with little prior data.

Why did the public view the UnitedHealthcare CEO's assassination as justified?

The CEO was perceived as a villain due to UnitedHealthcare denying 32% of people's health claims despite premiums being paid, leading to public praise for the assassin.

What is 'cyberpsychosis' as discussed in the podcast?

Cyberpsychosis is a condition in the show 'Cyberpunk Edgerunners' where excessive technological augmentation of the body leads to mental instability and psychosis.

What is the 'Dora the Explorer' theory?

The theory suggests that 'Dora the Explorer' is actually about exploring the internet, with 'Dora' being the end of the word 'computer' in Spanish and the show's intro zooming into a computer screen.

Why is Drake suing UMG?

Drake is suing UMG, alleging that they manipulated streams to promote Kendrick Lamar and devalue his public image, affecting his upcoming contract negotiations.

What is the significance of the Drake vs. Kendrick Lamar diss track in the context of the UMG lawsuit?

The diss track is seen as a strategic move by UMG to lower Drake's public value, making it easier to negotiate a lower contract deal with him.

What was the eerie experience Carlos had in the new house?

Carlos felt a presence of a young girl, which he initially dismissed but later appeared in his dream, leading to concerns about the house's history.

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Let's be honest, what most people really want for the holidays is to see their favorite people more often. That's why this year, the best gift that you can give, besides plane tickets, is an Aura Digital Picture Frame. So now that I moved out of my parents' house, they don't get to see my face as often. And whenever I come back from vacation, I barely get to see them and show all the photos I took. So with the Aura Digital Picture Frame, I get to share all the pictures with my family of the places I went and vacationed throughout the years.

And these photos look like real prints. Oriframes have meticulously calibrated high resolution displays. Unless you really look closely or see photo transition, you'd never know it's a screen. And you guys can frame instantly from anywhere. So you guys can share photos or videos from any device and they will instantly appear on the frame wherever it is in the world. No memory card required. So save on the perfect gift by visiting oriframes.com to get $35 off

This deal is exclusive to listeners, so get yours now in time for the holidays. Terms and conditions apply.

So I know a lot of you guys watching have businesses yourself. Your business is ready for launch, but what's the most important thing to do before those doors open? Is it getting more social media followers or is it actually legitimizing and protecting the business you've been busy building? You guys can make it official with LegalZoom because when creating your business, the most important part

is your idea. So I don't let the headache of registering my business hold any of my ideas back. So it's time to learn about a great idea that will keep you going and growing. LegalZoom. So LegalZoom has everything you need to launch, run, and protect your business all in one place. LegalZoom helps business owners like you to take the first step and

every step after from reliable business formation to experience guidance in legal and tax. Setting up your business properly and remaining compliant are things you want to get right from the get-go, but you don't have to strain your brain or wallet. LegalZoom saves you from wasting hours making sense of the legal stuff. At LegalZoom.com, you guys can take care of business legal needs in just a few clicks. And if you need some hands-on help, the network of experienced attorneys from around the country has your back. Over the last 20 years, LegalZoom helps start, run, and protect

millions of businesses. LegalZoom, now you're in business. So launch, run, and protect your business to make it official today at LegalZoom.com and use our promo code JUMPERS to get 10% off any LegalZoom business formation product, excluding subscription and renewals. It expires December 31st, 2024. Get everything you need from setup to success at LegalZoom.com and use our promo code JUMPERS, J-U-M-P-E-R-S,

LegalZoom.com and use promo code JUMPERS. LegalZoom provides access to independent attorneys and self-service tools. LegalZoom is not a law firm and does not provide legal advice, except we're authorized through its subsidiary law firm, LZ Legal Services, LLC.

I was nervous. I was nervous, but I'm not going to fucking show I'm nervous. Yeah, I know. No, it's weird because LA is such... I don't know why I get so flustered in LA, but in Toronto, I just talk to anyone. Why though? Maybe it's like home court advantage. Like I feel better at home. You know what I mean? But what does that mean? But that's their home court advantage. Bro, if you stick with just the bums, you're going to end up a bum. So you want to be king of the bums? No, no. Not to say Toronto's bummy. Not to say that, but you get what I'm saying. Like if you treat yourself as a caliber of this taste...

That's you. Yeah, yeah. Like, if you put your ceiling right here, that's you. You're gonna be right here. But if you put yourself on a ceiling where, yo, I can talk to anybody because I know I'm gonna reach to that level or that, I guess, like, stature. Yeah. Fuck, you can do anything in the world, you know? Because I also just need a lot of practice because most of the time I'm just in my room chilling, right? So I'm not really out like that. So, boom, it was a great thing that we do that because it's like, you just throw me in the deep end. Like, imagine...

I don't even get to talk to my friends anymore. Because I don't go to uni. You know what I mean? Oh, I swear you still go out. No, it's online.

Everything's online for me. So I don't get to talk. I swear you're going on campus, no? No, no, no. Damn, never. So I go online. I don't talk to no one. So you just throw me straight into David Dobrik. Go talk to David Dobrik, which is blessed because now I came back from Toronto. The next day, I went to fucking Toronto Fashion Week. Everyone, chopping up with everyone. You're too much in your head, bro. Yeah, I am. You're too much in your head. Like, it's not, it's not,

go talk to David Grobe. It's go to talk, go talk to that person. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Go talk to that guy. It's not, go talk to this blah, blah, blah, blah. Fuck all that shit. Go talk to that person like a human. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, I had to learn that. Right? Like, it's a lot of people get too much in their head like, oh, I can't do certain things because I'm not that yet. And then that's where you get trapped. That's low key. That's what everybody's trying to brainwash you to do. Because that's how they keep the poor poor, bro. If you keep the poor poor, they can never come back up and the rich stay there. Like, nobody else can join the club. You know what kills me? There's like a trend going around where it's like, let's ignore all the celebrities. Have you seen that? No.

this girl went viral on tiktok she's like guys what if we just all get together and just ignore a certain celebrity and just don't comment don't like on her post right yeah the first target was kim kardashian oh kim kardashian has four million followers on tiktok yeah guess how much likes she got on her recent how much 10k you know it sort of worked it worked and

And then everybody in the comments is like, "Oh my God, guys, it's working." And on that comment, there's like way more likes than the actual video. - Oh, that's crazy. - So it's like, yo, let's ignore all the celebrities. - You know what though? - Yeah. - It's really a, that's a revolution type thing. - That's what I'm saying. - 'Cause if you think about it like this, right?

Eventually, we gave too much attention to some people where it's a monopoly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it's not even fair anymore, you know? And once they reach a certain level, they just reinvest into it and then nobody else can come back up with them. It's just they want to stay at the top. Everything is the attention. That's what I learned. Like, literally every single thing is attention. And you know what? I have a theory. Okay. So I call it the data theory. Data theory?

Every single thing you do, every single thing you pay for, every single subscription you have, every single product you consume, it's them taking your data because that's the real product. Now check this out. It might not make sense right now. Yeah. But think about it like this.

You ever hear the Pokemon Go theory? No. So the theory goes Pokemon Go, when it was first made, they didn't make it as just a game and everybody plays and everybody goes outside and have fun. The reason they made it is because the company Niantic, they actually made it to collect geographical information.

for their satellites so that they can sell that info later on. And you can imagine, everyone's playing Pokemon Go and they put a Pokestop in the middle of nowhere. In the middle of nowhere, nobody's been. There has no information yet. Pokemon Go players are going to go there and what? And

And they're gonna get the exact, literal exact pinpoint location data that they can use for GPS, tracking, whatever. You name it. Now, every single thing. Ready? Netflix. Netflix. Every single movie you watch, TV show, what do they do? Oh, you might like this too. Oh, you might like this too. YouTube. You might like this video. Recommend it. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah.

Every algorithm is made to use your data against you. So what they're doing is they're taking your data and they're manipulating it so that you get into a trap of wanting to keep spending money. - Damn. - So they know exactly your flavor and they know exactly what you might like next. And they can, in a sense, lead you like a horse

that okay I know you like that get ready because I have another product I'm gonna get you into so me being me and I fucking I get too hyper focused not hyper focused but like I get addicted to stuff yeah I get addicted I'm in a lot of hobbies so that's you're part of the consumer that's my curtain knife for real

And it's bad, right? I personally don't think it's bad just because I'm a victim. That's so hypocritical. You're like in the cycle and you're like, I don't think it's bad. No, that was the most hypocritical thing you ever said. No, it is. It is hypocritical. But like...

Yeah, it's bad. It's bad. However, that's how it goes. They get you into a hobby and then you spend all this, this, this, this. Now, I have a lead on you what you might like. I can continue to sell you shit for the rest of your fucking life. And you won't even bag that I'm using your data against you. Is that why Pokemon Go got banned? No.

It didn't get banned. Right? Because... Oh, no. It didn't get banned, right? It's back. Okay, okay. But they had like some... Oh, no. It was because the Predator stuff. Never mind. It's because people were going to like the Pokestops and waiting for people. Oh, okay.

I thought it was for data too. Because TikTok, that's what they wanted to ban it. Because why? Information was getting sent to that company. It's just too much information in one. And like when a government sees that, and I mean... There was another theory about Pokemon Go. It's kind of more... It's not some Pizzagate shit. Okay. But was... I think you might have mentioned it with the Predators. Yeah. They would have Pokestops and then get people to come in and then like...

they prey on the kids that pop out there yeah and it's it's even more interesting because if you think about it if this was still like the biggest thing ever and some people still play it's still huge but if i had a business let's say it's a bubble tea shop or whatever boba shop right and i could put a poker stop right there get all the asians to come in true because i know asians love playing pokemon but wait but you know what i mean though but do you know i i think the poke stops are randomized

Right? I don't think you can pay for a Pokestop. That's what we think. Really? Yeah, yo, you can pay for anything in the world. Let's be real. That's true. If I give you a billion dollars right now and I say, I have this restaurant. I want you to put a Pokestop in front of my restaurant. A billion dollars. Yo, you're taking the money. And it doesn't have to be a billion dollars. It could be...

everyone has a dollar amount. That's a thing. They're a business. At the end of the day, Pokemon Go, whatever company running it, Niantic, they're a business. And we think we're all playing by the same rules. But we're not. Same.

These companies, they're doing shit behind. It's behind our back and we don't even know what's going on in the office, bro. Oh, and there was another revolution that went around in New York. It happened two days ago. Did you see it? What happened? The UnitedHealthcare CEO got assassinated.

People are saying that he got shot randomly, but no. Of the US? Yeah, of the US. But this was like a planned attack, right? What happened? So a guy, all the people around him said that, oh, we saw that guy that shot the CEO waiting at the hotel for him all night, right? So the guy walks out and he silenced her on the gun. Pop, pop.

goes and flees away, right? But the craziest part is the response from public. They're claiming that guy is the hero, the guy that shot

the person is the real hero wait why because it's like and then i i researched why does everyone hate this guy the ceo right and his health care the united health care has is an insurance company for like obviously health care and they've denied 32 of people health care even though they paid it

What does that mean? So like, okay, say you, like in the, in the America healthcare system, you get like healthcare and you pay insurance for it, right? But sometimes the insurance companies, that's what they do. They want to deny the claim that you paid so that you don't get healthcare. So imagine 32% of people who- So they paid money and they never got it. And they never got it because

they always deny the claim. So it was a scam. Yeah, it was a scam. That's why they took him out and everyone is praising him. Oh, shit. And it was crazy. On the bullets, the guy carved out messages. What did it say? Okay, it's deny, defend, and depose. So that's a diss to all the insurance companies because, like I said, um...

insurance companies will try to what? Deny you from insurance. And then once you take it to court, they'll... Defend their company. Defend their company. And then the depose thing is part of the lawsuit action. What does depose mean? It's an action that's taken within the lawsuit process. Yeah. So that guy literally...

wrote those messages in like like a a diss to all the insurance companies wow and he's still on the run right now so he he's taking like but there's probably a backstory so

So theory, he probably was affected crazy by whatever happened there. That's exactly like... You know Cyberpunk Edgerunners? Cyberpunk Edgerunners? No. So it's a TV show on Netflix. But there's a music video that came out. It's a very similar story. You know why I said that? There's that thing where...

media will replicate life yeah something exactly like that happened really yeah so in in cyberpunk edgerunners in the music i really watched this music video yesterday too this is weird but there's this girl and then she's doing a heist and it happens to be at this big company that they also do health products they also do medication now they're doing a heist on them they're getting all this information blah blah but while she's hacking she sees in

In one of the files, encrypted files, she hacks it and opens up. It shows that there was a certain medication that there were side effects they knew about. They didn't release it to the public.

And it's the same medication that her mother died from. Damn. So what she did was she stayed in that building and was fighting off all the people that were rushing in to stop her from stealing, right? Yeah, yeah. And she ended up just dying there, just leaking the information straight to the news. Yeah.

all that info she just leaked it to like a wire into the news and boom and it then it came out right it came public and then all that information about the medication is like yo you all were killing yourselves but you didn't know it wait so that's cyberpunk that's the plot no that's not the plot that's the music video the plot of cyberpunk is there's it's the future

So you can imagine in the future where everybody can kind of mechanize themselves. So let's say you want a stronger arm. I can get a stronger arm. Damn, so it's like superpowers. Yeah, but it's more like you can choose whatever you want. So it's similar to what Elon wants to do with Neuralink, where you can put some shit in your head. You can be better at math.

You know, you could be, who knows? You can be a better chess player. - Yeah, yeah. - You can be a better sports athlete. I can put a new leg in my body, right? - Oh shit, okay. - But what happens is your brain, because it's still a brain, they can't make new brains.

I mean, yeah, hopefully not. God forbid. But they get cyber psychosis. That's the term they use in the show. I said this in an old episode too. It's almost a theory on what's happening right now too. Because we do get kind of cyber psychosis if we're too tapped into tech.

What does cyberpsychosis mean? So cyberpsychosis pretty much happens when you've done too many implants or changes to your human body to make yourself, I guess, less human. So let's say I changed my leg, my arm, and my head, right? That's, let's say, 30% of my body change. The higher you push that number, let's say I changed my torso, fuck, that's already 90%, whatever it may be, right? Yeah.

The closer you get to changing your whole body, making it more like a robot, less of human, your mind starts losing it because it can't accept the input of what tech is, right? It only understands human flesh. It only understands what your nervous system can handle. So when you start putting all this other shit in, the mind is what's the rubber, the rubber band. And you stretch it, you stretch it, you stretch it. It could snap, snap.

And in the show, they take that on as, let's be honest, what most people really want for the holidays is to see their favorite people more often. That's why this year, the best gift that you can give besides plane tickets is an Aura digital picture frame. So now that I moved out of my parents' house, they don't get to see my face as often. And whenever I come back from vacation, I barely get to see them and show all the photos I took. So with the Aura digital picture frame, I get to share all the pictures with my family of the places I went and vacationed throughout the years.

And these photos look like real prints. Oriframes have meticulously calibrated high resolution displays. Unless you really look closely or see photo transition, you'd never know it's a screen. And you guys can frame instantly from anywhere. So you guys can share photos or videos from any device and they will instantly appear on the frame wherever it is in the world. No memory card required. So save on the perfect gift by visiting oriframes.com to get $35 off

Aura's best-selling Carver matte frames by using our promo code JUMP at checkout. That's Aura, A-U-R-A, frames.com, promo code JUMP, J-U-M-P. This deal is exclusive to listeners, so get yours now in time for the holidays. Terms and conditions apply.

So I know a lot of you guys watching have businesses yourself. Your business is ready for launch. But what's the most important thing to do before those doors open? Is it getting more social media followers? Or is it actually legitimizing and protecting the business you've been busy building? You guys can make it official with LegalZoom. Because when creating your business, the most important part

is your ideas. So I don't let the headache of registering my business hold any of my ideas back. So it's time to learn about a great idea that will keep you going and growing. LegalZoom. So LegalZoom has everything you need to launch, run, and protect your business all in one place. LegalZoom helps business owners like you to take the first step and

every step after from reliable business formation to experience guidance in legal and tax setting up your business properly and remaining complaint are things you want to get right from the get-go but you don't have to strain your brain or wallet legal zoom saves you from wasting hours making sense of the legal stuff at legalzoom.com you guys can take care of business legal needs in just a few clicks and if you need some hands-on help the network of experienced attorneys from around the country has your back over the last 20 years legal zoom helps start run and protect

millions of businesses. LegalZoom, now you're in business. So launch, run, and protect your business to make it official today at LegalZoom.com and use our promo code JUMPRS to get 10% off any LegalZoom business formation product, excluding subscription and renewals. It expires December 31st, 2024. Get everything you need from setup to success at LegalZoom.com and use our promo code JUMPRS, J-U-M-P-E-R-S,

LegalZoom.com and use promo code JUMPERS. LegalZoom provides access to independent attorneys and self-service tools. LegalZoom is not a law firm and does not provide legal advice, except we're authorized through its subsidiary law firm, LZ Legal Services, LLC. Yo, what happens is these people that become criminals, and of course to be a great criminal, you want what? Criminals.

the craziest weapons bulletproof everything pretty much invincible but if you do that to yourself what happens to your head you go crazy your brain will snap and you just become a literal psycho damn and just start murking everybody yeah they should play a they should do a runoff of that it's like because you said like the brain is so powerful how do we know we're even alive type thing so it's like oh wouldn't you go crazy if you know you're dead like i don't know because obviously we're not dead yeah yeah but what if that happens like i'll

Oh, that's scary to think about. I know because if you... What I think is it's almost a take on what's happening to us with just our phone. So like if you're always consumed here, here, here, here. Like death scrolling? Yeah, it gives you anxiety first off. But it also takes you into a place that it's like hard to get out of. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel you. It's hard to get out of. And that's the point of it. It's because that's how they make money. That's legit how they make money. The two minutes you spend on your phone...

They won. You know what I'm saying? Like they won. They were able to put an ad in your eyes, fam. If they put an ad in your eyes, they won. Yeah, let's stop ignoring celebrities and ignore phones. No, but like at the same time, it's okay. It's okay because we're going to do it regardless. But what's not okay is to do it and not realize we're doing it. That's what's the problem.

Free the people, fam. Remember you're like, oh, I'm trapped in the cycle. That was such a Gavin Korn moment. You told me the theory. You knew what was going on, but then you said, nah, I'm still in it. That was the most Gavin Korn. It's like, it's gonna happen. No, but it is though. Because what are you gonna do? What are you really gonna do? I'm still watching Netflix. Whenever I brush my teeth and I look at the red shit on my toothbrush, I say, fuck it. Toxins are going in my body anyway.

Okay, why not? That's why. I actually... No, I'm different though. What? I don't even brush my teeth with thing anymore. I use a non-fluoride toothpaste. Oh, okay, okay. I use non-fluoride toothpaste. Yeah. I use a non-plastic bristle because no microplastics get in my braces and shit. Isn't that... It's called something. Microplastics. No, no, no. Oh, no. I don't think it's the same thing, but there's a toothbrush that went viral that... It's like a... It's like a wood. Do that again. Do that again. No, no, no.

I can't even tell a theory bro. So you chop the, you chop the, or you bite the toothbrush. Yeah. And then you start, you start brushing. You know that one? And it's supposed to clean it really well. Comment down below if you know it. Cause a lot of, I know. I see, I seen one. I seen one. It's, it's like a gum. You put it in your mouth and it's a, it's like a toothbrush head and you chew on it and it's supposed to brush your teeth. But it, it look, he doesn't work. Your breasts still stink bro. That's

Probably didn't work a lot. No recently. I just got a toothbrush scraper cuz I don't like So like in your tongue, there's a lot of like Oh tongue scraper. Yeah. Yeah, you haven't used I you've been using no, but I think I've been using the back of my toothbrush But yeah, I'm like yo, this is low-key not enough because it doesn't get the scent out. So boom I got a tongue surprisingly. They don't have it at Walmart. They don't have it at what I

At the... I would say just the popular stores. So they want man's... They only have it at Asian places, bro. Oh, really? Yeah. Like whenever I go to, let's say, Miniso. Yeah. Shit. I don't know. Like Muji. Yeah. They have tongue scrapers, bro. They don't have it at Walmart. They don't have it at all these... Damn. Shoppers, they might. Yeah. They don't even know what shoppers is. You only have that in Canada. Oh, really? That's only a Canada thing? Yeah. It's only in Canada. It's like Walgreens. Yeah. That's what Walgreens is. I don't know if they have tongue scrapers. Leave it on the comments. And leave a like. A like.

And leave a like. Do you have a Mickey Mouse cup by any chance? I don't know if we talked about this. I do. Really? Yeah, why? So there's like this whole thing going around. It's like the Mickey Mouse cup controversy. So Disney makes cups like for every like character. But specifically in the Mickey ones...

it writes the word mickey inside of it right yeah and you know how we talked about water holds uh or liquid holds frequency and whatever you're drinking it's like positive or negative right so in the on the surface of the liquid and it says mickey you can see it it like reflects right and once you reflect mickey into the liquid it's it spells out wicked right

No way. Oh, because the M is W. The M is W. I'll show you. Oh, shit. So everyone's asking like, is that premeditated? Why would Walt Disney make his most famous character Mickey, the word Mickey, Mickey Mouse?

and look like wicked because the Y the Y is in cursive so it looks like a D I'll show you I'll show you it hold on I just don't like cursive in general bro cursive writing Lily whenever you're watching or you're wicked oh that's wild I don't know if you've seen this Mickey episode but it's the one where he's making Swiss cheese I had

- I have not. - Have you seen that one? - I have not seen it, no. - So they're all on a conveyor belt, right? And he's one of the workers in line. - And he has to drill holes? - Yeah, and he has to drill holes. Guess how he drills holes? - How? - I'll show you 'cause I can't show it. - Wait, why? - It's bad. - What is it? - Look what he's using.

No, that's not real. That's real. That's real. This isn't real. That's real, fam. This is still... This is not... That's old Mickey Mouse. That's Steam... That's Steam... That's Steam... Yeah, yeah. Steamboat Willie. That's Steamboat Willie. Yeah, that is Steamboat Willie, but still, that's... That's what they call it, Steamboat Willie. Yeah, the Willie stuff. No.

Using the hula lead. No, he actually was. And I was like, there's no way that's fucking on the air, fam. That's... Okay. The thing is, though, all the cartoons back in the day are fucked up. Yeah, that's true. They're racist. They're like pushing...

they're just pushing their agenda still like the only podcast that is like can crack racist jokes and always gets away with it obviously theo vaughn but like but like bad friends they always mock they always say some crazy racist jokes but they're comedians that's why they can get away with it

Okay, what do you consider a comedian if you've done stand-up? Yeah, if you've done stand-up for at least five years and you're known, you have a good reputation. Yeah. We can't go saying the same shit. Yeah, obviously not.

But let's say there's an actor, right? And he only does comedy. Yeah. But he's never done stand-up. Is that a comedian? Wait, say it again. There's an actor. Actor. He's been in comedic movies, comedy movies. But he doesn't do stand-up. Is he a comedian? Is he a comic? No, I don't think so. Because you don't do stand-up. What is he, a court jester? What is he?

An actor. I think he's just an actor. Wait, so he can't have the same comedian... What do you call it? Like the comedian card? I don't know. Is that a thing? Yeah, I think it is. It's probably a thing, huh? Yeah, because it's like respect and reputation. You know what I mean? Fuck, I don't know. That's hard. Because Kevin Hart did stand-up, so like... Yeah, he can...

Is there one I can name off that doesn't really do stand-up like that? I guess they all did stand-up before they did movies. Before they did movies, yeah. I would say. No, there's not one I can name, honestly. I don't think I can name one. Oh, in comedic movies, Adam Sandler? He's kind of in comedic movies. No, but he's done stand-up. But he's done stand-up, yeah. Yeah, he's done. He's an OG. Stand-up, yeah. Yeah, he's an OG. So maybe that's how it goes. Yeah, yeah. Maybe you don't. It's a cult. It's a thing, right? Hold on.

Like, if you don't do stand-up, you can't be in the club. And you can't say certain stuff. You can't have the card. Yeah, damn. That's how it goes. I think there's certain cards, like, in certain things. You know how you and your cousins, you'll have, like, a thing where you won't let anybody join in on what you're doing. If you haven't met the requirements.

Yeah, it's like that. It's literally like that. That's how Andre, our manager, he was like, oh, you guys don't get the card unless you've seen all these classic movies. You're not considered this, blah, blah, blah. Say cinephiles or directors. Yeah, directors. Like, oh, you're not going to be a director unless you've watched these classics. And then a great director names classics and you can't name them? Fuck. That's credibility, though.

But at the same time, who makes the rules? Nobody makes the rules. Nobody makes the rules. So it doesn't really matter. It's just collective. Yeah. Yo, the power is really in everybody's hands, man. Like if they wanted to do something, you could really do something. Loki, I have a feeling that we are going to all...

like soon the the ceo stuff was kind of like the low-key revolution bro what ceo stuff remember the ceo story i just told the okay that's crazy that's that's that's murder yeah relax did i tell you too that um they put balloons on the guys on the guy's body when when uh

I mean, not the body, but like, you know, the place he got shot. And it was like a CEO down in a star. They're mocking it? Yeah, they're mocking it. I don't think that's ever cool though. That's messed up. Never cool to like mock someone's death. Even, okay, you know when people made a lot of jokes because there's a famous that died. I don't want to say the name and stuff like that, but there was so much jokes made about it. Oh, I know who you're talking about. But because he's an evil person, you think it's okay.

For example, like there's been other evil people in history. Is it cool to make jokes about them? Because I guess in a sense, jokes are harmless. But when someone passed away. No, I feel like, yeah, passing away is different. Like you have to respect, respect the someone that fucking died, bro. He's not even here. But also what if they're evil? But death is death though. Think so? Yeah, I mean. But isn't it a victory if evil is defeated? What does it say in the Bible? Yeah.

I don't know. I'm actually not sure. I'm actually not sure. I'm going to have to go with that still. Right? Like whatever the Bible says. It's an honest question. What do you think? What's your honest opinion? There's no wrong. We're just discussing. No, me personally, I don't think death should be mocked. I don't think it should be mocked. But should we treat it as a victory? I guess so. But if evil is conquered, no? No. What if there's like a straight evil person? Like dead ass. He's the cause of millions more to come and die. But it was stopped.

Yeah, I don't think you don't you don't brag about that. You know, I mean, that's a victory No, I don't think so. Really? I don't think so cuz it's like okay say like the the saying was like Oh if you get hit turn the other cheek, hmm. Bam. It's like the same thing bro. Just turn away or like it happened. Yeah

i'm actually not sure i'm actually not sure it is a hard question though it is a hard question yeah because i i think i think on the terms of um you're saving everybody else like if there's a super villain and the super villain was literally gonna kill your family and destroyed the rest of the city and you stopped him would you not would you not like take pride in stopping a villain yeah but it's like yeah because i'm thinking on some superhero terms yeah because even yeah go ahead but is it different if it's packaged differently

Because is it only different because you're wearing a suit and then you're wearing like you're categorized as a superhero and you feed evil and the villain dies? Maybe. Is it different like that because it's packaged differently? Yeah. Or is it still the same thing? I think it's still the same thing. Really? Yeah. If there was a real life superhero and our lives were saved, you wouldn't celebrate the victory? Damn, I'm posting that on Instagram right away. What? I'm posting that shit on Instagram like, yo, he saved us. Like,

No? But then you're just mocking the guy's death, though. That's fucked. At the end of the day, death is death. That's hard. Leave that on the comments. Actually, this is a great debate. Realistically, I'm celebrating. Realistically. Yeah, it is all about the package. Because I know what example you're talking about. And they all cheered and stuff like that. Yeah, like if the Joker was going to blow us up.

And we were just saved like, oh shit. Maybe, yeah. I'm going to post on Instagram. You're going to post on Instagram? Yeah, what the fuck? But then why did you say that for the CEO guy that...

even just the balloon you said that that was that's what i'm saying because it's packaged differently that's what i'm trying to discuss with you yeah but then you just you just took back what you said because you said that was fucked for the ceo but then you said for the joker you would but it's the joker feel me like this guy he still killed i know that's facts too yeah but it's packaged i don't know enough about the guy i know more about the joker because bro wears like face paint and stuff okay but i can tell he's he's

He's crazy. Okay, then yeah. Yeah, then it is packed significantly. But I don't think that men should... Should celebrate...

I think it has to be a certain evil. I think it has to be a certain evil. What is evil then? Evil is evil, bro! That's what I'm saying. So that guy did the same shit. The CEO did the same shit. Still did evil. Joker did evil. So we should treat them the same, no? No, there's greater evils though. If someone murdered a million people and were two, who's more evil? I think it's simple like that. Personally, I think it's like that. If they did worse...

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But I think if there was like real supervillains in the world, we wouldn't think they're supervillains. We would think they're something else. We think, oh, they're hired by some people. You know what I mean? What do you mean? Like if it came out today, there's a real supervillain. Yeah. And people are getting...

you know, hurt, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. You would think, you wouldn't think, oh, that's a villain. That's a super villain. You would think somebody hired that person to do all of this injustice. Oh, for society right now. Yeah. Yeah. Makes sense. You would think, oh, a country sent that person. Oh, um, whatever, whatever. Yeah. Put that person in play. It's always, it's always like, um, a hit man. Cause low key, the superhero movies are realistic. Cause you're going to get,

You're gonna be chilling while you send some people out to do your dirty work. You know what I mean? It's very rare that you see, say, one of the best murderers

Or no, like one of the best people in power. They send hitmen out. They don't do the dirty work themselves. That's true. You know what I mean? That's true. That's like what I was saying in the last episode with the slaughterhouse in Serbia. Yeah. That's the same thing. These top executives, like these ones pulling the strings, they're not doing nothing. Yeah, there's high security up in like the 30th floor. They never go down. Because they know they have a target on their back. Why go down? Send some people. You have money. Mm-hmm.

that that's do money and time bro sacrifice bro yeah yeah yeah that's what i would do what the fuck i would be the greatest ceo send mans out for hits every day do you think though so now this is getting interesting too ready do you think the the success story because it's still i would still say those successes of even just like mob bosses even though they're very very evil like

Coming from a place of nothing to, I guess, to a level like Al Capone, for example. Al Capone, he was literally getting praised by...

by the MLB like players in the MLB for being one of the greatest like mafia bosses ever I didn't even know that damn yeah but he came from poverty right so those successes should we still big him up or no that's the thing it's just packaged bro it's just packaged differently it's packaged differently bro cause say I did that bio I wasn't like you know what I mean Al Capone level

Exactly! I feel like if it's packaged differently, it's different. I don't know. But that's not fair though, right? It's not fair! Yeah, that's why. That's why back to the evil thing. Like bro, evil is evil at the end of the day. It's like one guy is just packaged different. Alright, if there was a random stranger, right? And he's an older gentleman. Let's say you have a family and you have kids.

older gentleman and he's he broke into your house yeah and gave but he broke into your house like without you knowing and he was watching over your kids and and like you know like looking over them and shit yeah but he gave them give them gifts and you know like looked at them like smile yeah give them gifts and then left would you be cool with that he didn't do nothing

No, he was like looking over your kids and stuff. Broke into your house. But he gave them gifts. He gave them stuff. Then fuck, no, I probably would have been like, oh, that's sick. Nothing happened. It's packaged differently. That's Santa Claus. No! That's Santa Claus! That is, that is. Oh shit, I pressed the wrong one. That's not even the... Were we talking in the thing? No, no, no. Okay.

But that's Santa Claus, bro. Yeah, low-key it is, bro. But now Santa Claus is like the cool guy that gives cookies. Or is he the P word? No. Because he's looking at you. He knows when you're awake. You are sleeping.

knows when you've been bad or good and he's going to punish you for being naughty, dog. No. Whoa. That's Santa. Whoa, Santa. Yeah, okay. That's great. Package differently. Yeah, you just put it in perspective now. Yeah, it's all about package. It's all about packaging. It's all about the marketing behind it. So if it had W marketing or L marketing, you're going to look at it differently. Now, here's where I'm going to blow everyone's mind. Ready? Try to look at things without the fancy packaging.

Look at it for what it is.

yeah now look at your friends for who they are without all the fancy packaging and look at everyone you care about look at the people you look up to without all the fancy packaging who are they what are they for what they are you know yeah that's gonna change a lot of people's perspectives especially on celebrities because we we idolize a lot of people but you look past the thing they're all just regular people yeah and even going and going into like for example um

certain rappers and they promote violence drugs literally like the worst things high key evil promoting evil they promote evil but we big them up why it's packaged it's all packaged he's the guy that we should now remove all the fancy stuff peel back the layers on who that person is he's just a guy now

Do you, would you still like that person? Nah, probably not. Would you still promote that person?

right if it's not packaged that same way yeah no the friends one is crazy because i feel like a lot of people get carried away that oh he's he's been my friend for say like a couple years like all my life but like he's done something bad but i'm gonna excuse that bad because he's been with me for my whole life you know i mean and that's where people like you have to learn to cut people off

and set a line right yeah because bad is like like I've been saying evil is evil bro so like you should know what it is

No matter if you did it to a million or one fam, that's, it should be, there should be a line. As soon as you go into that, do that one thing, then you're considered evil. It's tough because, because vengeance and justice, there's a line there. Yeah, yeah. It's, it's, it's, I want to give everyone justice, but, but is that vengeful? You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah.

On top of John Wick, like, is that vengeful? It is vengeful. It is. Technically, it's justice too, but packaged differently. I'm telling you the package theory. The package theory.

I'm telling you, the package theory goes deep. Like, this is a long theory. Like, it could go into so many things, man. What else can go into? No, it could literally go into... Because we covered celebrities. We covered... What else? Food. Events. It could go to food. Oh, yeah. Low-key. That we're paying so much for, like... Let's say you go to a fancy restaurant. You don't even get full. You eat this much. A lot.

lie but it's because the setting it's it's rich bougie yeah you're gonna pay that five i mean you're gonna pay that million bucks for that little did you know lobsters fam they they were they were not even high class food yeah they were the roaches of the sea yes yeah yeah they were not even high class food they just made it that way so they can keep making money off you bro yeah oh there's there's also a theory that a football was made like created just so they could sell more food to

sell more food yeah in the stadiums and stuff that's interesting they kind of leaked that on like there was a there was a commercial on the NFL it's like oh blah blah did you know that this theory and I was like oh why are they trying to put that out there like that but I was like that makes sense because every time people come in you buy hella food why is it all overpriced like movies why did they create movie theaters maybe it was to sell more popcorn bro

I have a theory though. I have a theory. And it's a theory about sports, particularly team sports and the ones where you feel like you're part of a cult or you feel like you're part of a... Oh, this is going to be some hate shit because you hate team sports. No, no. No, but check this out, right? Okay. So, it goes all the way back to ancient Rome. The Colosseum. The reason they made the Colosseum was so that all of the civilians...

they wouldn't revolt. They would spend all their energy and all of their, I guess, their heart cheering, watching violence happen all in the Coliseum. Dispelled, dispelled, dispelled. By the time they go home, by the time they go throughout their week, they're cooling. They're chilling, right? Now, what happens is the theory goes that the reason they made so many sports and they big it up so much and it's just,

huge thing not just for entertaining it's entertaining but entertainment like i said that's the product but you're also the product yeah now theory goes to keep us from i guess look at people that don't watch sports okay would you say would you say they they have like they they have like and would you say they have more ambition than people that that do or no that

That's a hard take. It's hard to know. Because their time is in different things, right? You know what I mean? So let's say you watch an athlete that watches sports a lot. He's going to put it into sports. And sports is going to be his life. Boom. Now, like I was saying, all the energy dispelled. The other things aren't. Does that make sense? Yeah.

Now, if we didn't have all of these different entertainments and things to put our energy into... Oh, yeah. You told me about this. We would put it more into... Into what, though? Like, we putting into... Into...

I don't know. We would be more connected though. Yeah, we would be trying to do something more important. Yeah, I remember you telling me this theory. Instead of being dull. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Instead of just wasting time. Like we would be putting into something that we truly believe matters instead of just like letting time slip. But instead we're watching guys on the screen play sports. So you're saying that... I don't think it's like... I'm not knocking sports though. I like sports too. Yeah, we play sports. Yeah. But it's a...

If that didn't exist, what would we be doing? Now, I want you guys to think too, and this is on some deeper level and change your way of thinking, is the hobbies you're into. Let's say for me, I love watching movies. If I didn't, what would I be doing with my time?

well would you i think that's a personal question though it is a personal question because we all have different interests and likes if i wasn't doing sports then i would probably go into something more creative but regardless though i think i would have a hobby it just wouldn't be something physical you know i mean it's so tough it's like it's like um back in the day when they didn't have any of this stuff yeah what were people really doing fighting each other

yeah i guess so i guess fighting each other but now it's just more civil now you fight in the octagon same shit probably think so maybe it is a good thing though because it tamed us down still yeah because then everybody would just where would all that physical build-up go to you know i mean no i think regardless though sports would have been a thing

Yo, you know this is way deeper than we think. If you bag it, we're talking about this as a soft topic. This is a serious topic. Because think about it this way, right? If we weren't entertained all the time, maybe we would become brutes. Maybe we would become so, I guess, these conquering people that would want to, I guess, fight a lot. I don't know, put energy into things that conquer. I don't know. Or maniacs.

Because in prison, they don't get entertainment like that. So they have to... Imagine you're just in the room by yourself. You're right. They do get booed because all they have to do is work out. Like they have to express energy somehow. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm getting. They have to express energy somehow. So if we're not, where does that energy go? We're going to want to express it in some place. Yeah. And if we didn't have these other forms of dispelling it...

Uh-huh. What would it be? Fuck. It's really interesting to think about. You know what it would be? It would deadass be war, fam. What's the first sin? What's the first sin? Like, murder. Uh-huh. Damn. Isn't that crazy? High key theory? Yeah. The people that ended up becoming, like, the craziest serial killers, they're probably, like, crazy bored. Mm-hmm.

Oh yeah for sure. If you bag it like that. Like you're probably just really really not entertained by anything else. Yeah because you have to be. Like nothing has to be going in your life for you to even think about doing that. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Because we get stimulation from just playing a video game. Exactly. That will not give them any stimulation because they're already on the next level. Oh.

You know what I'm saying? I get what you're saying now. This is actually a lot deeper than we bagged. So you're saying that like say all the sports and the shit we watch and the shit that distracts us from going. Like it tames us down but it is good. Yeah, it's good. It's still good. Yeah, because we're still good people. Like we're loving people. But without it we would become crazy. Yeah, maybe we could. I don't know. But I feel like, yeah, if it wasn't for sports there would be something else. You know what I mean? I feel like we, oh, I don't know. Because we always have to find a way to get, oh,

Oh, yeah, you're right. Because you have to get active. Yeah. What does that mean, bro? What does active mean? Yeah. You know what it means? Yeah, yeah. We'll be killing each other. Yeah. Is that crazy? Yeah.

Isn't that concerning? - How do we go from sports to that? - No one actually gets deeper if you really take these little things in like that. So I saw this here. I have some footage I saw and this is in Arizona. This is recent, check this out. So this might be the clearest UFO image and UFO sighting they have on video and multiple people have it.

happened in Arizona like last week. Oh, I think I've seen this video. You seen it? Yeah, I think I've seen it. And it's crazy because they're just chilling. They're literally just chilling. Watch this. I'm telling you. Yup, I've seen this. You've seen this one? Yeah. And they're laughing. Yup. It's just on top of their houses. Yeah, that looks like the fucking...

Independence Day, right? It literally looks like from the movies. Now, there's the ones killing the house and then they look over in the sky and they see multiple ones. Oh, shit. And more moving. Oh, there's more? That's crazy.

And as wild as this is though like... Yeah no one's going like... It's not that wild. Because this pack is different bro. It's not even wild anymore bro. Because they've marketed it towards like... Oh okay it's gonna happen already so everyone just calm down. I'm not calm bro. I'm not calm bro. Like if this happened in 2005...

shit no Loki Loki yo we're actually inhaling a lot of toxins because it's making you go fucking crazy I've actually never seen you go so deep into so many so many topics oh yo yo so actually I wanna get to that hold on wait did I tell you that story about the guy that he was writing stuff in his house yeah yeah yeah yeah

It was because of like toxins and shit. So theory, hopefully to God, like this is not going to happen. But we just installed like new soundproofing. Also, if the audio sounds better, I've been trying to make a better like difference for you guys on Spotify because I heard like the audio is messed up. So we put effort in. We put some like sound panels and stuff. But it stinks, bro. It stinks, bro. It stinks toxic. It says non-toxins, but fam, I smell it and low-key, I was sitting here for 30 minutes and it was fucking hurting my head. Fuck.

So that's not... Is that why the maniac episode is happening? I'm not manic and I'm not going crazy. Relax. Pray to God that it doesn't happen. No, we're good. Okay, okay. All right, but anyways, let me tell you a door theory. Okay. A door...

I think so. This is going viral. There's this girl on TikTok and then she said it and everyone's like, holy fuck, it makes sense. So the Dora theory is Dora the Explorer, right? It's all about the internet. That's what the whole thing's about. Now check this out, ready? Dora, computer in Spanish, the end of computer in Spanish is Dora. Now check this out, ready? Computer, right?

Now, when the first Dora came out and the intro, remember, what did they zoom in on before the episode played? The house, right? They went in the house. It goes in the house. Yeah, the forest. It goes to computer screen. What? Yeah, it goes to computer screen. And when it goes to computer screen, you go on and Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora, Dora,

What? She's playing the internet. Internet Explorer. Who's the villain? Yo, who's the villain? Swiper the Fox. Mozilla Firefox.

It's Internet Explorer made bro. Oh, oh, I know that there's no way that's is that that's a theory though, but Yeah, but but it is on the computer That's where it exists. The real human is into the the real good person is Internet Explorer and then the opposition is fire Yeah, because the theory is like it's it's um, it's made by by Microsoft or whoever owns like Internet Explorer I think Microsoft I think yeah, but it was to push a

if you're gonna use things use internet explore they made the term explore attached to the internet through dora am i am i tripping or i did never seen the the internet screen you never seen that here let me see yeah it's that's a mandela no no that's been a thing really maybe you haven't watched it when you're a kid so i remember it zooms in the house and then it zooms out and dora jumps like does a seven literally throughout the whole thing here you can see it

Oh this one the real action person. No no no no. It's not real. This is the OG bro. You never watch this? Oh I do remember this. This is the first ever intro. It goes to the computer screen. I do remember yeah. Now check this out. Where are we gonna go? Where's the bridge? There's a fucking. Isn't there a mouse cursor that goes like this? Is there? Click click. Oh.

I swear there is, no? I don't know. I don't think so. No, there is. I swear. A mouse cursor. Remember, she's like, oh, what is this, guys? No, she just points at it. No, but there's a mouse cursor somewhere. I know for a fact there's a mouse cursor somewhere, somewhere, somewhere. So she's just surfing the internet the whole time. Yeah. Damn. The whole time, bro. Damn. And then there's another theory like, where did Diego come from? Yeah. There was a computer game called Carmen San Diego. Oh.

and then that happened on the computers and then to attach the name because all of these things like even though it's it's new it's inspired by something and leaving little hints like that yeah it comes it becomes uh its own thing it's like a remix yeah and i feel like right now everybody's feels so like a lot more connected and relatable to each other just because the internet because like i've seen where so kai has this like obviously he's like one of the biggest people on the internet yeah

And people in like football, the biggest sports ever, are taking what happens in his streams and they're doing it as celebrations. What do you mean? Like what? So like, you know, like the game where they hit the person with the helmet on? Yeah, with the bonuro. Yeah. So a guy in the NFL, the team, they started doing that when they celebrated. I'm like, yo, like even athletes, like the biggest athletes are watching this.

Like the internet. They're on TikTok. They know. So everyone's brain rotted. Everybody. It doesn't matter. Like the highest celebrities. Kim Kardashian knows about things. Yeah. Because that's the internet. Kai is... I would say he's...

a phenomenon that we haven't seen yet. And he legit is the world's iCarly. Like the real life iCarly. And it's good too because he's exposing a lot of people. Did you see what happened with Kai and Drewski? Exposing? Oh, because Drewski was like being racist? No. What? The prayer.

so was that drewski or is that kevin that was kevin that was kevin hart and drewski so in the prayer like the thanksgiving segment right uh i think one of drewski's friends willie right the old guy kyle was like okay can you say a prayer so the guy starts saying a prayer and then kevin hart starts like trolling he's like oh he's laughing and stuff like that he's making jokes even kyle's like yo what's going on here right so he's like okay kevin why don't you say a prayer same thing he's like

He's trolling too much to the point where it's like nobody's laughing. It's like disrespectful. Yeah, nobody's laughing no more and even like LeBron James on Bryce, he's like, what the fuck? So Kai takes over. He's like, okay, no, no, you're not taking it serious. Let me say a prayer. Yeah. Craziest thing ever. He starts the prayer and he goes, Yeah, I know, I know. And I'm like, why?

That's crazy. In the middle of the prayer. Yeah, I know, bro. And before that, even before Kai started his prayer, he started trolling so he wouldn't say, he wouldn't start it. You know what I mean? I don't, that's my one cringe thing is I hate when people disrespect God like that. That's just so cringe to me. So thank God he exposed him because I don't look at him the same. Yeah, with any, whether it be a rapper, whether it be like a certain celebrity,

Disrespecting God? That's so wild. Why do you have to do that? Yeah. Remember the UFC? The Key and Peele skit? It's a testimony from God. Remember the crazy guy? God sent me to destroy you. That shit happened in real life?

oh with a yeah so she's called like um the sleep doctor so her name is xi ming she's one of the new fighters in in the ufc yeah so she's a uh a ufc fighter in the during the day and then a doctor during the night right and then when uh she was asking us when she was asking them oh how's your knockout how's that and then she's like she started crying right and she said you know what

i don't show the good thing about me is i show mercy to my opponents like i that's the bad thing i shouldn't show as much mercy damn that's karate kid that's that's a that's cobra kai fam it was so funny because she's like this like doctor fam and she's knocking out patients she's like she's like i hope she's okay but i don't show enough mercy oh my god bro

She's the head of antenna of the UFC, bro. She's making patients. Oh, that's crazy. That's crazy. That's actually a crazy term. Yo, the clean business. Yeah, Dr. Sleep. That's her nickname.

Before we end the pod, we have to talk about something. This is big. It's the UMG lawsuit. You hear about this? With Drake. What do you know about it so far? Nothing. I saw it, but I didn't know any of the terms. Drake is suing

UMG. Not necessarily Kendrick Lamar, but UMG, the label which pretty much controls a whole bunch of other labels underneath of it. This is Universal Music Group. That's UMG. Now, what he's claiming is that they were manipulating streams to push Kendrick Lamar and promote the song...

Because it can pretty much devalue his next offer because he's looking at a new deal. Drake's new deal? Yeah. So back this. Check this out. Drake's deal was coming to an end. Out of nowhere, Kendrick Lamar and the whole industry decide to diss Drake. Out of nowhere, right? Just when his deal is ending. Isn't that so convenient? Yeah. So what happens is...

Now, people are saying this is very similar to what happened with Michael Jackson. Because Michael Jackson wanted out of all of it. He didn't want to even be part of the label anymore. Because he knew he's bigger than that shit. But once they heard about it, what did they do? They planted all these allegations on him with the Neverland and all of those things in the news. And he was innocent. It's innocent. Like literally came to be true. He was innocent. Now, why?

With the Drake thing, it's very convenient. All this stuff popped off, lowering his value in the public eye so that when he goes to sign the new deal, they can decrease the offer. So they just wanted to F up his bag. Yeah. So the lawsuit is that they're manipulating it just so they can get more money from him.

Or they can get like him at a lower cost or things like that, right? I thought it was going to be like you said how you manipulate streams to make it higher. I thought that was just going to be the end of it. Every artist does that though. Drake pretty much does it. There's things though. It's chess. It's chess. It's not just about that. There's so many different other things.

But also it's like interesting too. Yeah. Because what do you think is going to happen next? Next? Do you think this lawsuit is going to go through in his favor or what do you think? Because a lot of people are saying too, like the easy story and I guess the public opinion right now is, oh, yo, he's so down bad. He's suing them, blah, blah, blah. Okay, yeah. But they're not looking deeper into the thing about, oh, bro has a deal. Yeah.

With UMG. So people are thinking that Drake's down bad in money. And like he's just like... He wants... No, no, like...

He's down bad because of what happened with the diss track and pretty much his view right now. Yeah. That he wants to sue and then get money from... No, that makes sense because I think that's the smartest play. Yeah, that's the smartest play because it was obvious that Drake lost in the song wars. So I was like, he can't come back with a song. So how are you going to do it? At least try to get your reputation back in a way as like, oh...

let's put some real allegations on Kendrick so people can kind of come back on my side like oh you did this just to fuck up me so let's point him as the bad guy now let's play victim that's what he said yeah but what I'm asking you is like what do you think what do you think is gonna happen what's gonna happen because we know we know what the public view is right now and we know how people oh you know what's crazy too you know what's funny there's a music podcast on tiktok

I don't know if you... Yeah, the two guys? Yeah, yeah. They were actually named in the actual lawsuit or some shit. What the hell? I don't know why. So part of it was they were getting paid to make all these things. Yo! Oh, yeah, it's funny. So I was thinking like, yo, imagine we ended up in some shit like that. Oh, oh. Yeah. Bro.

What, what? No, because Ray... No, go ahead, go ahead. No, like, if we were, like, paid to have an opinion on shit... That's fucked. Because Ray Williams, Ray William Johnson... Yeah. Remember I talked about Apollo Killboy? No. The priest that said, oh, yeah, I can do miracles, but then he ended up, like, sexually assaulting people? So they did a lawsuit on that storyteller. Oh, wow. Yeah, the one that's... The same story I told, too. Wow.

but i took it from ray so they went to the source oh so ray has a beef with those people from the philippines they literally sent a email pages and pages of oh i'm gonna sue you because this and then ray's response was fuck you we have public speech in america i can do this yeah yeah yeah and he's like i will keep telling people that you sexually assaulted these people and i was like yo that's

That's really a line of... Because I've never seen that shit before. Like a storyteller getting lawsuits because they told a story. A real crime story. No, no. It's free speech. Yeah, it's free speech. It's soft. But those guys? Those guys?

With a music podcast? I'll be fucking scared. No, no. They're not in trouble. Yeah, they're not in trouble. It's just they were like named in it. Yeah. Okay. Now this is where it gets crazy. Ready? So going back to the Drake UMG thing. Recently, now that the lawsuit happened, this and that's going on, right? Yeah.

What's crazy is, remember the person that was... There's a person caught for X's murder. Oh, really? Yeah. Now? Finally? No, it's been. It's been a long time. He's in jail. Yeah. And...

There's a person caught for ex's murder. Now, he testified in the court and he named Drake being connected to it. Yo. Yeah. Now, check this out. People are saying, yo, that's fucking smart for UMG. Why? Because now what can happen is they're going to say, they're going to put this on him.

So the theory is like UMG is in this battle. They're going to pull every string possible. To win it. Put him more down. And then one of these ways they can do it is doing that with like the X thing, right? Now check this out. Ready? So you have a theory about that? No, theory is like there's going to be more.

Like we're about to see... Oh, exposure. Yeah, as the lawsuit comes through, we're about to see more and more things, like strings pulled because UMG has the ability to do that. Oh my gosh. Because you have to keep in mind, UMG owns like Interscope, like literally all these labels you can even name, it's them. Oh.

It's on some Disney shit. Yeah. And taking this whole time, like, Draco was literally about to retire. You know what I mean? On the podcast with Yachty, he said, I want a graceful exit. This shit is everything but a graceful exit. I know, I know, I know. Like, yo, imagine, you know, but that's what, being the leader of this shit for so long, men's would want to take you down. But like I said, I made a video about this on my personal page. Yeah. And the biggest thing I was trying to say was like, to be the greatest, fam, you know,

It means taking the greatest L and coming back from the greatest L. That's what makes you the greatest, in my opinion. Because it's easy to stay on the rise the whole time and not face conflict, difficulties, whatever. Damn, that's like a UFC champion that's never fought a hard opponent. And then he wins. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, obviously he's going to win. Yeah, obviously he's going to win. But or would you choose...

The USC champ fought the hardest opponents ever, had the craziest battles, and still was on top. Which one are you picking? Which one are you picking? Yeah. That's an obvious answer though. But, you know? No, but what Drake has in front of him is a daunting task. So if he comes back with it...

That's certified gold. That's certified gold. That's certified gold, yeah. If he does it, if he does it. Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. But only time will tell. Only time will tell. And I don't know. The internet's in a place of like whatever's having the most noise...

And whatever has the best headline or whatever has the best story to tell, they're going to tell that story. Whatever it is. That's why I said the package theory, bro. Maybe it might be packaged different, though. Who are they going to package as the hero and who's going to package as the villain? Yeah, what looks better. What looks better. Right now, who's packaged as the hero that took down the villain? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But really, is it deeper than that? Is Drake really the hero? We don't know. And everybody else is the villain. We don't know. We actually don't know. We don't know, fam.

We don't know. But if I see one person getting jumped in an anime, we already know who the MC is. The person getting jumped. The MC is the person getting jumped, bro. It's true. Yeah. With the karate kid, the guy got jumped. Yeah. That's the MC. I don't know. I don't know. We're just biased. We're just biased from Toronto, fam. Shit. Every time we go to LA, everybody looks at us like, yo, Toronto? Yeah.

They really look at us like that. Damn. Nah, I have an LA shirt on right now. I know. I was sitting on the shit with an LA shirt on. You were getting paid by Kendrick. Imagine in court. You know how they always play the things? Those two guys show up on the TV. What?

Who's better? Kendrick Lamar? And then it flips. It's like, do you know that theory? And we end up on the court. No, that's crazy. That's crazy. Okay, one thing I really want from Jumper's Jump at least once. We have to be featured in like a doc. No, it could be a doc. Or the news. I want to be featured in a Diddy doc.

I want to be featured in Diddy Dog. I want to be featured in a movie. Yeah. You know the big short? Oh, yeah. Something like that where it's about something in history and there's like little Easter eggs about what was happening during that time. That's why I'm from Jumper Jump. I want us to be featured in a real documentary and...

a movie that's based on real life. That's true. You know, there's the same studio that made Onora and Long Legs, Neon. They're coming out with like... So it's supposed to be like the scariest movie of the next year and it's coming in January. It's about... So it's about... It's weird because it's about a ghost story but it's in the perspective of the ghost. Yeah, I heard about this actually. And I was like...

How would they make that entertaining? Because in the trailer, all I seen was the camera just looking at people like chilling in their house. So it's like, how would they make that scary? But everybody, it's been in film festivals. Everyone's saying it's great. So I'm like, okay, that might be the next one we go to LA and watch in the Grove. It's going to be sick. I already know because like...

What happens is there's a certain shot. Fuck, I'm giving out game. Yeah. No, I'm not going to say it. If you want game, go to my blogs. Go watch it on my other channel. I'll give out some game there. I'm not giving out game right now. But yo, I've seen this. Since we're talking about ghosts, I've seen this one video, right? Yeah. And remember the balloon video I showed you of the classroom where the balloon starts following the guy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I've seen another classroom haunted video, right? And...

Previously, like a week before, there was a TikTok video of a mom who recorded an incident that happened at that school. She goes, oh, it was so sad that this girl, this person died in front of the school, right? So boom, the teacher, that's like maybe four days later. Everyone's out the classroom and he starts taking a video, right? And boom.

it's always in a classroom but when he puts the phone and he like puts the phone towards the blackboard like the blackboard screen you can see in the same seat that same student was uh was sitting before he died

fam there's a figure he's there yeah it's like he was there and everyone's like yo it would be weird that it would be in a random seat but it was the same seat oh shit hold on I'll show you so like do you see this so he said it was in this one so the person always sat on this one yeah look look in the oh

Yeah on the blackboard in the reflection you see like a figure like a student. Oh that's wild. Yeah you can see a kid. That's crazy. That's crazy. Okay wait I have a story for you. Okay okay. And it's about this house. What? You're gonna get scared. No. No. You're gonna get scared. Now you're blessed though don't worry. You're actually fine. Okay okay. But like when I'm telling this story no I'm not lying. Ready? No. Should we get the voice? No I'm not lying. Should we get the voice? Should we get the voice?

Alright Mick Mick come in Mick Mick come here Alright just come just come Just come just come just come Cause you live here too? Go go no no stand over there stand over there beside Gavin I'm about to tell a story I'm about to tell a story You gotta like lean in you gotta lean down You gotta like Yeah go under these paws

Lower, lower, lower, lower. And come into the shot. You see yourself? Yeah, there you go. So this is Mick. This is one of our roommates. I'm not lying. I swear I'm not lying. Ready? And we're fine. Don't worry. Don't worry about it no more. But I swear to God, like, this is what I was feeling. So I was in my room, right? And this is literally madly. This is like 2 a.m. Mm-hmm.

Keep in mind, I'm not scared. Like, I'm just chilling. But I don't know how to explain it. It's a weird feeling. And I hope I'm not getting no third eye or whatever. But it's a weird feeling. It felt like there's a girl, like a little girl. No, no, no. And don't like freak out. Don't worry. Yeah. But straight up, it felt like a, I want to say like a teenager. Let's say 12 years old.

Maybe they're 12 years old, right? I don't know. I could see it in my head, but presence-wise. And I don't know if anybody else has a third eye or whatever. I don't have one personally. And I hope I'm not getting one. But that's what I could feel. I felt a presence of a little girl. Boom. Just in general. Okay. Just in general. Now, I go to sleep. No. No.

- I go to sleep. Now keep in mind, I'm not scared though. I'm not scared 'cause I pray a lot, you know? I pray, I'm safe, I'm good. Rebuke any evil spirit, feel me? - Yeah. - I go to sleep. Yo, and maybe it's because I was thinking about it, but in my dream, I had a dream and I was in this house and there was something going on and there was a girl there and she looked like sick. Like she was kind of, she's not well.

And I was just trying to help her. I'm like, are you okay? Like, you need some help? Whatever, whatever. And it felt as if, like, we, like, she's not an enemy to everything. Like, I'm helping her. It's okay, it's okay, right? It's in a different house, though. It's weird. It's like in a house I've never been in. But it felt like I knew it.

So I'm wondering if my dream was almost in a perspective of someone that knew her. And then that was it though. Like I woke up and it was nothing. I just prayed, I just prayed like, like, uh, evil spirits leave. Yeah. Like unwanted, unclean spirits leave, rebuke any evil. Yeah. You,

You know what's crazy though? Yeah, because there is a boy room and a girl room in this house. And who's sleeping in the girl's room? That's a boy's room now. No, no. You're sleeping in the girl's room? Remember the paintings? All his paintings in his room are... That's the haunting, fam. No, but honestly, honestly, I think it's because I've been watching movies and shit. Oh, okay, okay. But I don't think it's like... I don't think it's anything serious. Okay. Just pray, fam. Just pray. You're good. We're good. We still have to get the...

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're blessed. Thanks be to God. Thanks be to everyone.

Keep us safe. Watch the chords. Yeah, to rebuke any evil spirits in the name of Jesus Christ. It's scary though because it's like, obviously it's a new house and we didn't get to bless it yet. And when we were moving furniture, Carlos said something that stuck in my mind, right? What? So it's the flowers and you're like, yo, it looks a bit funerally. Oh, the flowers there. Yo, whenever I see those flowers now, I'm just like thinking, fuck man, did someone die over here? No, no, no. God damn.

I have another $3,000. That's for another day. Yeah, yeah. And oh, also, everyone that's wondering, we have another channel coming for the Jumper's house. We're going to be doing a lot of group content. We just filmed the video. It's fire. It's so fire. And if you haven't watched it already, go check out my vlogs on my other channel link right here. Thank you guys for watching. Make sure to comment, like, subscribe,

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