414 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Theo Von
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Adam Thorn might either be the worst podcast or the best one of all time. One, go. Enjoy the show. I'll tell you one thing. The way the administration handled that, I think, put a bad taste in a lot of people's mouth while at the same time they're sending all that money to Ukraine. I think that was a big problem with the Biden administration when they did that. I think you can't do that. You can't while you're sending all this money.

Overseas ignore the people that are here because then it's like why do you why are you deciding in this manner? That you don't want to help people that were hit with one of the biggest wildfire tragedies ever

Why are you deciding to give them $700? Especially in one of the most beautiful places that our country has to even exist. Not only that, but you're not protecting them from potential land grabs. There we go. Potential land grabs. That's Theo Vaughn on Joe Rogan. This is the first conversation these two have had since the election. Obviously, both of them played a big part in Donald Trump's

podcasting, campaigning, I would say. And there they were talking a little bit about the Maui fires, which honestly people aren't talking about much. And it kind of was washed over after the whole thing went down, which is such a tragedy and awful.

You know, they there were talking about, you know, how critical they were of the response to the fires and, you know, what the Biden administration did. I know BJ Penn and Tulsi Gabbard came on and talked about how nothing was getting done and there was some sketchy shit going down. You know, just the fact that they offered him $750 each for

when you know so many millions and billions was were going to Ukraine it's it's heartbreaking right even if you're pro all the money going to Ukraine like isn't there a point where we're like okay of this 10 billion we're about to send we're gonna have to keep three of it because we've just had a tragedy and these are our people and we we got to take care of them like is that out of

the capability of the Biden administration? Do they not have the power to do that? I mean, I know a lot of the money for Ukraine was approved by Congress, but could they not get money approved from Congress for the fires for rebuilding? Yeah, I mean, I can't speak to the process at which money and spend is approved, right? Speculatively speaking,

I don't know. I mean, I just, I think Theo's right. Like it is for anyone who's been to Hawaii. Hawaii is so special of a place. Like it is unlike any other place in the world, even though like there's other tropical vacation spots. There's Mexico, you know, there's, you know, the Bahamas, whatever. But

Something about Hawaii is really special and there's a lot of history there. There's a lot of historical sites. And so on top of this, like 102 people died.

So that's the count that they've settled on. A hundred and two thousands of people lost their homes and livelihoods. You know, plenty of people, you know, are just literally like homeless now. And obviously the land, like they've said, is so valuable because it's,

It is so incredibly special and beautiful. And it's a part of the United States. There's no other territory or state in the United States that looks like Hawaii, right? And like, there's a reason it's so expensive to vacation there. It's because you can't get anything else like it in the country, right? And so, yeah, I'm just like, I'm just in awe and disgust that like so little was given to them. I can't say...

what is happening in the legislation and how that money got approved and why they felt like $750 was adequate, but it's absolutely not. Like the value within, you know, what a person's home is and their livelihood and their lifestyle, especially when it comes down to people who have such a strong, unique culture like those that live in Hawaii. I don't know. Well, I mean, look, they accidentally sent $6 billion extra dollars to the Ukraine. Yeah.

You know, could they not accidentally send fucking $4 billion to Hawaii? I mean, intentionally. $750? Yeah. Under the Biden administration, that's like...

12 packs of eggs. Groceries are ridiculous. They are. No, but intentionally send it like, like send a message that like people are important. And when tragedies happen, like we take care of our people. They didn't do that. We're taking care of a lot of other people in a whole different part of the world that I understand there's some resources and things like that that are involved that feel important to those that are sending the money. But I mean, what are we doing here? Well,

It makes you think like how well they did with all the flooding that happened recently and the hurricane stuff. Oh, nothing. Probably not good. It was the same thing. $700 is what they got. And it's like, why are we not? And I think with the election...

a lot of that kind of got swept under it was like sort of part of it but not really it was like everyone sort of had their campaign strategy everyone sort of had their campaign pillars and that like obviously sort of just complicated things houses got swept away they haven't forgotten those communities yeah they're they're voting differently yeah there's a price there yeah i want to start this out just by kind of addressing theo's mood um poor theo

He seemed like, and it was still a great conversation. I was glad he was on. He wasn't a bummer at all. But he seemed like he was having a rough time. And he's, you know, he's an open book. Like, you could see it. He's struggling. Joe gave him some advice and was like, hey, buddy, you need to be around people. You can't be in the woods on your own all the time. I love his little...

analogies and metaphors that he just throws in there, but it's good. It's like, it's true. It's like, Theo, buddy, move down to Austin. Yeah. Okay? Just move down there. I know you're busy. Go find a house. Get back to that community. You'd have a great time at the Comedy Mothership all the time. You can tour from there. You can do whatever you want. You got money. You know, still have your place in Nashville or wherever it is that you live, but...

Get amongst that community because you're struggling, brother. And all the smelling salts and whatever drinks you were trying to... He was fiending for some type of high. He wanted some zins. He wanted anything and everything. He was seeking to get a little buzz. I get it. I think there was a lot to unpack with just when you saw his body language and his...

like i mean i wouldn't say he was like non-enthusiastic but oh he kept collapsing into the mic he literally he was putting his eyeball into the mic and i just it was me dude i want to give him a hug i'm just gonna say that i just wanted to give the guy a hug and be like perk up dude like you've done great things you have a very popular podcast like you're so funny you're so light and and and you bring so much heart and like you know just just

Just a lot of like love to like the podcast world, right? Yeah. So let some of the stress go. But also, you know, yeah, he talked a little bit about like the potential of wanting kids and wanting to find a wife and all of that. And so the sense of sadness that you got from him was a little sad. He was just feeling lonely. Yeah. You know, and a bit incomplete is what it seemed like. And it came across...

you know, in a bigger way than it usually does. Like, he mentioned things like that on his show, and he's, like I said, he's an open book, but...

You know, I'm not going to say I'm worried about him, but I'm like, hey, he needs a hug. He needs a few more days at the comedy mothership. And hopefully Rogan can kind of get it back on track. Did he used to live in Austin? No, but he used to live in L.A. near the comedy store where there was a great scene and a lot of support.

because of covid you know he moved back to or he moved to nashville i don't know if it was back to nashville if he'd live there but uh and he has a probably a bit of a community there but it's not quite the same it's not like that level of comics and uh though i would assume nate um

which is named Nick Bugazzi is there. So. - That guy's funny. - He's great. All right, election night of the comedy mothership. Now this was interesting to me because Kurt Maxson was there, obviously Tony Hinchcliffe and the Puerto Rican joke. So like Joe was saying, Tony was praying, praying hard.

It sounded like a great group of people to have there and be having a blast with. Now, I'm sure it's always that fun at the mothership, but on an election night, it's kind of something special because comedians, you know, are often talking about these, like, world events and making jokes out of it. And this time around, you've got three people in the same club, right?

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Theo, being one of the first people to interview Trump, kind of set the podcasting campaigning in motion, which ultimately, once he got to Rogan's show, was a huge benefit for the Trump campaign. And then, of course, Tony...

Did his Puerto Rican joke at the... And look, I'm not laughing at the joke. I'm laughing at the fact that he was even pulled into this at all. But he went to, what was it, Madison Square Garden? And went to the Trump rally, opened up, which is like so odd. And even Obama did his bit, kind of explaining that...

Tony is a racist. Like wild, dude. So now you've got them all in this club, obviously heavily invested in this outcome on this night and just watching it together like to be a fly on the wall. Uh-huh. I was just thinking that like I want to invite to that party. Yeah. You know? It would have been so sick. So fun. I mean, they talked about...

Joe was saying that he was getting different election results from all his different sources. You know, this place and this platform and this app. But apparently Elon was there. No, no. Elon wasn't at the mothership. He created like his own app to like...

get the election results before. So Elon was with Trump and Dana White. Yeah. Wherever they were. Yeah. And supposedly, yeah, with this app.

uh, Elon knew like four hours before. I don't like how, but are you surprised that, you know, the Tony Stark of human beings, you know, no, not at all. And Iron Man minus the suit. Right. Just has an app that told him he's like, erp,

I'm going home. Literally. Joe's impression of him is that exactly that. Donald one. I'm going home four hours early. It's just like you can just picture it happening. And yeah, this is all hearsay. We have no idea how the app worked or if it was accurate, but he was confident in it. And that's what happened. That was cool.

quite funny and yeah but I think getting an invite to that party is like when is Elon going to start going the new Diddy party you know well but with less less baby oil I think how long do you think it'll be before Elon starts going to the UFC I

And what's interesting about that is Zuckerberg loves going to the UFC. So if you get Elon and Zuckerberg there... Wasn't there supposed to be a fight between the two of them? Oh, yeah. That's just Elon talking shit to Mark. I haven't forgotten. Zuckerberg started training Jiu-Jitsu real hard. They were going to fight in the fucking Coliseum or something? He's about 60 pounds lighter than Elon. So other than being a lot younger...

I mean, unless he learns some jujitsu real fast, he learns way bigger. Yeah. But yeah, but I would love to see him going to some UFCs, just kind of being a part of that sport, you know? I mean, to see two of the potentially wealthy, well, basically wealthiest people in the world into the sport that I love the most. I'm all for it. I'm like, let's fucking go.

like yeah i'm not like i wouldn't say i'm the biggest elon could elon could host the first ufc on mars it's a big deal that he could no i'm not the biggest ufc fan but i would watch that i mean i watch some of the ufc fights like i don't know it's kind of nice sometimes watching the women it's a little bit empowering to watch them and you're like gosh

I don't know that I could ever get punched in the face like that, but I would totally watch that. That would be so cool to see. Just those two people, especially in the Coliseum. I mean...

That's like something you can never imagine happening. I mean, no one fights in the Coliseum. Those two aren't going to fight. They're too busy doing important shit. They all reached out to the country of Italy and were like, Italy, we want to use the Coliseum. No, no, no. I think Italy reached out to them. Yeah. Dana was like on a call with the people that could allow it at the Coliseum. It's so weird. I mean, you know, when it's those two, though...

Like people forget billionaires can do whatever the fuck they want.

You can't break the laws, but they can do almost anything that they want to do because they could just afford it. Well, I just sometimes I think about like, can you can you imagine being as smart as Elon Musk and just being like waking up the day before the election and being like, I'm going to find my own way to figure out the results before or like I'm going to solve my own problem today. Like I have this issue. I'm going to figure it out. I don't need anyone's help. It's like I'm so helpless. Like if something breaks, I'm like...

Yeah. I mean, throw it away. I don't know.

When you own Twitter and, you know, supercomputers and your own AI, I mean, I'm sure you can gather a lot of fucking information real fast. Yeah. Imagine having the completely uncensored version of ChatGPT. Oh, yeah. You just ask it, how do I take over the world? And it gives you like a one through ten step. It just says, be weird first. Be extra strange. Uh-huh.

Hop up and down oddly. Talk odd. Yeah. Just do it. Let's talk about voting trends. Theo got into that and was kind of like speculating a little bit and making some jokes as well on the 2020 elections and stuff.

And, you know, how they were influenced maybe by the lockdown or were people just kind of like bored and hanging at home or was there something else? I mean, 18 million more votes. I think it was. Was it that many? 81 to 66? I guess not. No. So 15 million. That's a shitload of extra votes. I know people hated Trump.

and therefore were very motivated, but it's an unusual outlier. And especially since it was around the time when there was mail-in ballots, which was new on a mass level. So sometimes it takes multiple elections or attempts at anything to get those systems down well enough

It's like, oh, are we to believe that the first mass mail-in ballot election, we nailed it? Like, have you seen the U.S. Postal Service? It was struggling during that time, definitely. I mean, well, maybe not during the election, but in the years to follow it, I don't know if anyone remembers that, but like mail was like so late. It was so, but so, I mean, from my perspective, I voted mail-in during that election out of Montana. Yeah.

And Montana's always had mail-in voting because it's like a very rural state. It's very large in geographic area. And so like mail-in votes are really important for those in rural counties and things like that. There was a lot of speculation. I don't believe that there's like this massive conspiracy that 15 million false votes existed, right? But what I want to know is where they came from because that can be leveraged in future elections.

I mean, that's just that's all there is to it. It's like if it was if it was one, you know, potentially people were at home on lockdown. They were bored. So they voted. I don't know that I believe that that's like the mass. Maybe that's a couple hundred thousand right like across the country where people just like kind of bored. I'm a little bit fired up and paying more attention. I'm going to go vote. I have the time right now.

Um, mail-in voting increased because people were at home, right? So like people physically went because they weren't working or because they didn't have to be in the office. They were able to go to the polls. Mail-in voting obviously increased. We know that that like that reflected in how long it took to count the votes. Um, and then also, you know, like,

younger voters maybe mobilized just over like their dislike for Trump during that election season and like kind of the fear around everything and sort of like

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what they were dealing with. But we obviously realized that wasn't the case. It seems pretty fucking comical now. Fucking backfired on them for sure. When we like groceries or how much? Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I think that...

I think it could be a good combination of the three and maybe some other things that we're not considering. I think it'd be really interesting to hear from those listening, like why you think that that is. And I mean, again, voter fraud is obviously like on the table, but I truly don't believe that they voter fraud at 15 million votes. Supposedly there were a lot of investigations to look into it and they did not find any substantial voter fraud.

You know, so you're inclined to believe it, yet it still seems really funky. And I wouldn't be surprised if in 20 years we get some information about this using AI and some other software and some other investigative process to where we're like,

Oh, this is what happens. And it was wild. Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised. One thing they talked about that I think is like a fabulous idea, which I don't know why this isn't a thing. I'm sure people have thought about it and proposed it before, but like why, you know, because in 2020 so many people were home and they weren't like physically at work, whether it was they were out of work or they were just working from home, like they weren't there. And like, it's like basically a holiday. Why is an election day a holiday? Right.

That's a good point. Why is it not a paid national bank holiday? Why don't they just make it Saturday? Well, you can't make it Saturday. No, you couldn't make it Saturday, but why don't you make it a fucking Friday? Make it a three-day goddamn weekend. Why can't you make it Saturday?

You can't make a national holiday on Saturday. No, no. I mean, just if it's Saturday, it doesn't have to be a holiday. People aren't working on Saturday. There's banks that are still open on Saturdays. There's restaurants. I mean, there's still life goes on. But like if you make it a weekday, it can be a bank national holiday or whatever. National holiday, bank holiday, whatever you want to call it. Yeah, but national holidays like restaurants and different things are still open as well.

So some people have to do that. That's true. Yeah, they don't close everything. But if you work those days, you get paid extra. If you work a national holiday, a lot of times you get paid holiday pay. You get paid extra to work on Saturday. You get holiday pay. Well, yeah, but whatever. Either way, we're talking about the same thing, but Saturday is less work because you don't have to make a holiday. Most people are off. It should be a holiday. It's a big fucking day. It's once every four years. It's one of the most important things that we do as a citizen is vote. And what if it increased and we had a consistent...

Jump in votes. What if we had 15 to 20 more million people? Look, it's reasonable. I'm saying either one would be good. Okay. And if you want a national holiday...

Sweetheart, I'll get you one. They get it for me. Do it. We're going to campaign on that. I'm very passionate about this. I'm not going to shut up about it. But no, it makes sense. I mean, look, we're always talking about more access to voting, right? That's why they don't have... They don't require voter ID in what seems like only the states that went blue, which is quite...

Sort of interesting. But, you know, it's all about access for voting. And there is no better way to have better access to voting than to make sure people are not working that day. Like if it was a prideful national event where everyone was off...

And, you know, let's get crazy. Let's make everyone off that day, but they also get paid. It's just a thing that happens. It doesn't happen every year, but it happens when it happens. And then everyone still gets paid to not have to go to work.

And the idea is and the hope is that they go vote. But also it's their right to not vote if they don't want to because this is America. It is. But I think we would have then record turnouts and, you know, that's just better for democracy as a whole. Talking about things that are not good for democracy, though, is all these fucking celebrity endorsements.

Yeah. And can we go through some of these? I know it's kind of unfair because the left gets more of them. So it just looks bad. I mean, the right had some Kid Rock. It had someone Rose. I don't know who she was. She was like a model. I don't know. She had a shaved head. I don't know. Amber Rose. Is that a person? Yeah. Yeah. Her. Who else? Hulk Hogan. I mean, Elon Musk. Yeah.

Joe Rogan. They're a little different. Eventually. Dana White, I guess. They came around. Celebrity celebrities, you know, like Hulk Hogan. Entertainers. I get what you mean. True. And then on the left, J-Lo, Eminem. Fiance. Freaking, oh, Dave Bautista. Did you watch? Yeah. So they talked about his video where he's...

He's like, Donald Trump's a wimp. If you want to be really tough, vote for Kamala. I don't even know what the video now that Trump won looks so bad. I don't know what to think. Like, I liked him as an actor. I thought because of the Guardian movies, like, you know, he's to be to go from being a wrestler to an actor is hard. The Rock did it, crushed it.

you know, Bautista, how do you say his name? Bautista. He seemed like he wasn't quite going to get his acting chops down, but honestly, he was doing good. He was starting to do some movies that I liked and I believed it. He had some like heart in there. And then you just start acting like,

This, you know, and it's not that he was supporting Kamala. Like, that's fine. But but like, don't be that cheesy. And it's like, what are you what are you even trying to do? Did they pay him a lot of money to do this? Or is he just like feels this strongly about elections? I mean, yeah.

Yeah, I would think it was a comedy. I just feel like if I was any level of celebrity, which I never want to be, hope never happens, and it won't because I'm not talented enough, but I could never stand for any politician. Like even if I was into one of them, I'm like, why would I work this hard to get to this point and then just attach myself to some...

nincompoop political party, regardless. It just seems like such a dumb move, you know? I guess for like the J-Lo's and the Cardi B's, it's like they're just expected to do that, maybe. I don't know. Yeah. Though you do have to question J-Lo's...

ability to... Make good decisions? Yeah. Come on. I mean, I think we talked about this briefly on a previous episode in terms of the influence and the impact that celebrities endorsing a certain party have on the image of that party as a whole. And when Elon Musk comes out and says...

I endorse Donald Trump because I'm going to fix a problem. People tend to think, Oh, Donald Trump's going to fix this problem. Donald Trump is not Elon Musk. Right. But like at the same time, the celebrities that, you know, I mean, there were a lot of companies and celebrities and, you know, C-suite people that were supporting the democratic party. Don't get me wrong. Like they existed. It's pretty equal. I imagine. But, but,

The those that they like really led with like the entertainers, the artists. It's like, yeah, you guys are really talented at one thing, but you're not going to solve. You're not going to fix the problems in our economy. You're not going to be an advocate in the you're not going to be a cabinet member in the White House. You don't have a seat at the table. You're just someone who has a large following and people listen to those who like already they're listening to in terms of like they're consuming their music and so on.

or social media content, whatever. Um,

Um, but these people are not really contributing to like the cause in any way. They're just like getting emotional. They're actors or singers or whatever performers. And they put on a really good performance. And that's what, that's what Bautista did. I, I didn't not enjoy the video. Like it was quite comical. It was quite entertaining and like absolutely spoke to me a little bit in terms of like what he was saying. But at the same time you look at it, like you said, after the election now and it's like, it's a bit silly. Like it's,

It's very dramatic. Yeah, well, I mean, my point is, like, what did he hope to gain from it? Obviously that she won. Maybe some roles. Maybe that really, like, stamps him as, like, one of the real lefties, you know, for Hollywood. And he can start getting some real artsy roles. I don't know. I mean, he thought about it, you know. I'm sure he discussed the idea with people. But it just...

like it's for me it's equally as ugly if he came out the other way like and was like yeah i'm pro trump and i'm tough and so is trump and he got shot and he's okay and you need a real man in that it'd be like like all right dude yeah maybe yeah like i just don't know if that helps those messages uh i don't think that's i think i think it's a lot of like

You know when, like, did you ever watch that show, like, My Sweet Sixteen? Or just, like, you know, the concept of, like, having, like, a major birthday party for, like, a teenager? Yeah.

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They do things like these super, super, super ultra wealthy people. You don't even know their names. They're so wealthy. They pay Usher to come to their kid's 16th birthday party or whatever. NSYNC. Whoever the big band is at this point. They pay millions and millions and millions of dollars for six hours or four hours of this artist's time. These artists can be bought

They can be bought. Easily, but like not for that much money. Like when it comes... She spent how much fucking money, Kamala Harris, on this campaign? A billion dollars. Paying him to do that... She probably could have paid him $2 million and he's like, done. I'm doing it. Do you think if these... But it's like it totally degrades like the quality and like you know like this guy does not know this person. This is not a favor he's doing. He's paying this person to do it. More than likely. Yeah. Do you think that...

I mean, you know, talking of those wealthy people in Hollywood or L.A. that pay NSYNC or Beyonce or Usher to come to sing at their kids' parties.

or their party or whatever, do you think that they also have a bit of bragging rights to be like, oh, I didn't even need to pay her. We just know her through someone. They just make it seem like it's just a favor even. Right. Well, that's what they would want you to think. But in reality, it's like these celebrities can be bought for not that much. I'm sure they're not cheap, babe.

Well, but in terms of like when you have money, when you have that kind of money, it's like and you want people to think that you're so special that John Legend comes to your birthday or comes to your wife's party and sings to her. If you can drop a hundred grand on...

them showing up and literally playing like five songs or two, you know, and singing happy birthday and leaving. It's like, that seems like a favor, but it's not, it was a gig, you know? And that's for a lot of up and coming artists. Like that's how they make their money, you know, because it's like, they're popular, but maybe they don't have like a,

you know, actual record, you know, contract yet. Regardless, I mean, Batista, he's like a reasonably big actor. Like you said, he's in the Guardians of the Galaxy. Like his IMBD, pretty impressive. But in terms of that, like, I just looked up his endorsement of it. And, you know, he even made some social media posts about it. Like, I don't doubt that he believed in that campaign and that he supported it. But like,

got paid to do it. He didn't do it just for fun, you know? So that's where it's like, I don't know. I mean, you look at the other side and you look at how like diehard Elon Musk was over supporting his endorsement of Donald Trump and he paid how much money? Like $50 million, $100 million to the campaign? Like, you

You know, there's a lot of out there that says he straight up bought the vote. But, you know, he thought it was so important that he paid to have that done. Like he's a bigger celebrity than Bautista is. But Bautista probably got paid to do that commercial from the Harris campaign. I mean, they spent a lot of stupid ass money and on stupid ass things. And, you know, he went with it. It kind of leads into some of the critique that.

that she started to get. I mean, Joe and Theo talked about it. So there was a few things that happened. Like, she was nominated by Biden, supposedly, so they couldn't do a primary. The Democrats had to put all their eggs in the basket of Kamala, hoping that she could nail it. And then they did a debate. In the Trump-Kamala debate...

Kind of looked pretty even. Potentially Kamala looked a bit better, you know? I mean, it didn't really help that the mediators only, or moderators only, fat-checked Trump, which was kind of a little bullshit. It could have hit Kamala up, especially with her statement when she was like, oh, there's no foreign people abroad, military people abroad fighting. And it's like, what are you talking about?

But she did build some momentum from that. Then she went on to make a speech that Joe was discussing. I'm going to play it now. And you can kind of tell that she was really gaining some momentum at this point. Here's the funny thing about that. So he won't debate, but he and his running mate sure seem to have a lot to say about me.

And by the way, don't you find some of their stuff to just be plain weird? Well, Donald, I do. You'll reconsider to meet me on the debate stage. Because as the saying goes, if you've got something to say, my face. There you go. So...

You know, I don't have a lot to say about the style of that, but that's someone that is feeling the crowd. That's someone who's speaking to the crowd, and the crowd is like, I think we got something here. Like, the debate went well. This seems like a win. He doesn't want to do it again. She might be able to handle him, which, let's be fair, many politicians haven't. Turned out she couldn't.

ultimately, and, you know, lost miserably. But it's like, what were the pieces there? And in one of the uglier bits was some of the compilations that have been put together on her accents. And this is her speaking at different places. And I'm just going to play a short bit of it because I don't want to, I don't want it to go on for too long.

But it really does give you an idea of like, it's just awkward and really cringy. And I don't know what she was trying to do. But, you know, you be the judge of it. I love you back. I love you back. You better thank a union member for the five days. You better thank a union member for sick leave. You better thank a union member for paid leave.

to thank a union member for vacation time. Let's just get through the next 64 days. How about that? We'll help this win in 2020. We'll do it again in 2024. Yes, we will. Donald Trump, on the other hand, has been talking a big game about securing our border, but he does not walk the walk.

Or as my friend Quavo would say, he does not walk it like he talks it. Oh my goodness. I mean, it's a lot. But like what is going on there? They describe her as a, Joe describes her as a chameleon. And I don't know, I mean, I think as a politician, like this is like a good trait. It's an effective trait, right? To like...

talk to your audience, like know who your audience is and like meet, you know, like talk to. I don't think anyone would say it's very genuine though. It's not genuine. But Theo even says, he's like, you know, I kind of meet people where they're at. Like if I walk up to someone and like they're talking in a certain way, I'm like, Hey, like I'm going to talk in this way too. You know, like you can, you can match someone's energy. You can match someone's level. I get it. I mean, if, if you're in a serious board meeting or in court, um,

You were the judge. You're going to act way different than with your buddies. But you don't usually change your accent. It is odd. That one's unusual. It's odd. It's super odd. I mean, I think... I mean, if all of a sudden I was like, good day, mate.

How you guys doing? Well, you already talk weird, so who cares? Throw another shrimp on the barbie. You can say whatever you want and it's all going to sound the same because you're weird. Yeah, but I don't just become Australian-ish or whatever I just tried to do there. It's like in America, you sound funny. When you go back to the UK, you sound funny. You just, you don't belong anywhere. Well, I'm just funny. That gets you through, huh? Yeah, I think it's a very calculated thing that she's done. I...

To sway votes, for sure. But I don't know. Maybe it's pretty harmless. It's annoying, but I don't know that it's like, it's not a criminal act, you know? I know. And I'm not saying it lost the election either, but it wasn't good. No, it was annoying. This is just like one of many of like the kind of odd things. I mean, do we even need to talk about Waltz?

And I think we covered it, you know, before in the Dave Smith episode. But, you know, what an oddball that guy was making a bunch of

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It's just like a bunch of things that are like, what are you doing, dude? You haven't even started being a real politician and you're just you're just already making up a bunch of nonsense. Like integrity was just getting lost left and right. No, it's not a good start is what I'm saying. Like she could have picked many people.

that were just known for having really high levels of integrity. And then it's like, it's start there at least. Like, please help us out. And then ultimately, yeah, she lost a lot of momentum from that. She kind of peaked and faded after, I would say, that speech, the first one we played. And then there we go. It just kind of like went downhill from there. Yeah, I mean, the conversation evolved out of politics into like,

Some pretty off the wall things. I mean, starting with UFC fighters like shitting themselves during fights. I did not realize that that was a thing. I mean, it's disgusting. I can't imagine. Yeah, but think about it. So this is what people don't think about. I'm surprised it doesn't happen more.

They have to make the weigh-ins, so they do this like unbelievable weight cuts, which often involve fasting, dehydration, soreness. Then they rehydrate really quickly and there's rules to that. You can't use IVs, you can't do X, Y and Z. And then often they will then eat a bunch of food. And all of those things together are a massive potential for a ton of diarrhea.

- It's true. - Wait, wait, wait. - Just going on a fast and then eating a lot

And ending your fast can really upset your stomach. I mean, even when you fast, you have to ease back into it. And you don't even do it that seriously. Yeah, of course. I mean, I don't really know if these guys are all necessarily fasting hard when they're doing their weight cuts. I mean, they have a very controlled diet, I would say. And maybe they are very careful about what they start to consume afterwards. I don't really know much of their protocols, but...

Generally, when you're messing with the body at, you know, quite extreme levels, which is what they're doing, trying to get weight down as low as they can to weigh in and then get it back up as fast as they can so that they're heavy for the fight, it is.

It messes with your systems. And yeah, you're going to poop your pants. So strange. I mean, how would they know? Okay, you said they can't have IVs. How would they know? How do they know that they've had an IV? Because that's just like... I think it's some sort of hydration test. I think that there's like a limit to...

to how hydrated you can get in so many hours from just drinking liquids. I'm going to look that up because that seems like... Well, it makes sense it would work because it would then have to go through your stomach and all the rest of the things, you know, to get into your bloodstream. Whereas when you're doing IVs, it's straight in there. I guess. So there must be a test for it.

But yeah, some poop in the pants stuff. What else were they talking about? They were talking about like off the wall Airbnbs. Oh, yeah, yeah. Like there's one like... You can stay in whale bones. Well, I think he was just giving like the mind of Theo Vaughn, just like so raw and real, like just, you know, thought vomit, basically anything that comes to his mind. He's talking about like he was staying in a whale carcass in Mexico. Like I don't think that's... Actually, in I think Iceland. Yeah.

they have whalebone little huts that are super old. Because there's not a bunch of trees there, so they've used the rib cages of whales as the roofing for little huts. Ew. Well, they're super old now. It's not like dripping flesh. It looks like white wood.

And they've made like little huts near the beaches. It's too much. But, you know, they looked up some real ones and it's like you could say in like a flying saucer. Yeah, dope. And like a giant potato or something.

like in Idaho maybe I don't know it's crazy just humor yourself and google craziest Airbnbs but Joe's like if I wasn't married I would have the craziest house and I feel like that's like most men

Most men with millions and millions of dollars. They were just having the most ridiculous bachelor pads that aren't even bachelor pads. You have to climb up a ladder to get into it. It's just an entire video arcade. It's just like a treehouse filled with video games. With trampolines. It's so stupid. It's not even like a spoon. You just have to eat, drink everything. Just use your hands.

Yeah, it evolved very quickly. The conversation was quite humorous. Look, Theo is always fantastic. I mean, you know, I know he's dealing with some stuff. So Theo, if you're listening, we just want to say you're a national treasure. You bring so much joy and laughter into the world and your podcasts are fantastic. So take care of yourself. Move your ass down to Austin. Listen to, you know, Daddy Joe.

I just had the best idea. I just had the best idea. Go on. Dating show. Theo Vaughn bachelor style. He actually did a show kind of like that where I don't know. There's an episode with Bobby Lee where he's like, was it Bobby Lee? He's trying to get him laid. He's like helping him go on dates or something. Theo is.

So, yeah, I don't really know the ins and outs of that show. I'll put a link in the bio. I just think he'd be so fun. Like he's so funny and he's so entertaining. Yeah, but he said he gets really nervous around women. So maybe he's not like a player. He doesn't, yeah, he doesn't do that well. Tell me more about the mind of a man trying to impress a woman. Is that like a big thing?

Is that like something that really is like a thing? What do you mean? Like it doesn't just like, you just don't naturally or like you have it or you don't. It's like you think a lot about it or is it if you don't have it, you have to think a lot about like impressing women. I do. I don't really know what your question is, but yeah,

like anything you can practice it. Like no little kid that just starts to have a crush on girls knows how to do anything with that. It takes time practice supposed to do most of it in high school. And some people get out of high school and even out of college and into their forties and they still can't approach women. And that just is how it is. It's just, it's difficult thing. Got to learn it. All right. Well, but Theo legend, um,

We love you to death and feel better. And that is it for this week. We appreciate you guys as always. And yeah, we'll talk to you later. Cheers, y'all.

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