409 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Elon Musk Et al.
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Like, you know, maybe like a couple years of pay would be good. And then they could take a vacation. They could take another job and get double pay. I mean, it's not going to create an economic crisis. I think it's actually going to be really good, I think, because people can move to where they're making products and services that are more useful to their fellow human beings. The problem is if someone has like a 25, 30-year career of being institutionalized,

You're essentially like a part of the government system. You've sort of programmed your life and your career to be a part of this bureaucratic system. And then you're like, nope, you have to go out and compete in the free market. You're like, oh, that's scary to people. But you have to be valuable. You have to actually be valuable. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, let's look at like, you know. Yeah, there we go. That's Elon Musk sitting down with Joe Rogan. We're here to review it.

And that's that's Elon talking about his efficiency program that he wants to do under Trump. There's going to be some tough days ahead. Potentially, he is going to find jobs that he thinks are redundant in the government. He's laying out his idea for packages for what they will get, maybe two years of pay so they can get double pay or just take a vacation, take a break.

get the resume together, go figure something else out. But they end with an important point. They've got to be valuable. Working for the government isn't the same as the private sector. Maybe many of these people won't be ready. It's interesting. But anyway...

Elon and Joe got into everything on this podcast, really. I mean, very much centered around the election, of course. But Elon talks about video games, Twitter, government spending, even Peanut the Squirrel managed to make its way in there. And, you know, it's full of some of his predictions and stuff.

dare I say theories slash conspiracy theories towards what is happening with these parties in this election right now. So yeah, really cool conversation. Let's get into it. They open up by talking about how Elon is one of the best players in the world at a game called Diablo, which is

Very difficult to achieve. That's a popular game. Yeah. I looked at the list of the top 20 because I was like, maybe this is just bullshit and some weird brag, like weird nerd brag. Turns out from the accounts that I saw, yes, he's on there. And

I just went over to ChatGPT and I was like, what kind of time commitment would it take to be that good at a game and therefore be in the top 20 list? And ChatGPT estimated between 40 and 60 hours of gameplay per week to be ranked that high. There's no way that Elon can put that time in. No way. No way. So he's just that good that he can just play a few hours and still be ranked that high? Yeah.

It seems like an unusual thing. I mean, listen, is it that surprising? Elon is already fairly unusual guy. You know, it's pretty undeniable. He's quite talented. Um,

but, but yeah, some, some like unusual skill sets this guy has for sure. And, you know, going to video games, they discussed how there's, there's value in video games for him and it kind of calms him down. It's a way to escape because of concentration. He has to put all his thoughts into it. So it's like gets him away from God, the amount of stress that guy must have. Um,

You know, and it also gives him some feedback, like how tired am I? How well rested am I? Am I functioning well? Because he can see from his gameplay, like I'm just not on my...

not on task right now. And, you know, and they even mentioned a study that has surgeons being something like 30% more effective or making 30% less errors. Yeah, something like that. If they play some video games. That's phenomenal. All surgeons need to be playing video games. Yeah, that was so interesting to me. I mean, I'm not super familiar with the video game world. I found it, you know, of course, interesting that Elon said

One that he uses his real name on the games. Like everyone else seems to have like some like, you know, name like, you know, game name. No, he does. He has his game name, but it's still connected to his actual name. Gotcha. Gotcha. But I just, you know, I've never really played these games. I don't know much about him, but like he seems to be very into them. He's the only American on top 20.

Of course. Or like one of two or something. Yeah, like it's like all people from, you know, China and mostly Chinese people, I believe, when you look at the chart. But yeah, I found the fact that there is data saying that, you know, surgeons, particularly those that perform laparoscopic surgeries, are more effective and have less, it's like 27% less errors than like when they play video games than those who don't.

And he was like, why is this not part of like medical school training? Like, why are we not doing virtual, you know, play and things like that? Like, if it's that simple, why are we not doing it? Well, you know, it could be that it's this is fairly new research, you know, and with anything, it's like, is it cause and effect? It's like, oh, it's related to this. Maybe those surgeons are doing something else that also makes them good at, you know, maybe they just...

this like real need to be working with their hands. Maybe woodworkers that are also surgeons are very good. You know, it could be like a bunch of things like that. And it makes me wonder like what other professions could benefit from video games. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, anything that has, you know, kind of like really fine motor skill, precision movements, you know, things like that. I mean, there's it.

It's just interesting research to look into. Yeah, for sure. I'd really like to see where that goes. Joe was very excited about Elon's purchase of Twitter. Brought that up. I mean, I was pretty sure Elon had been on before.

since he bought Twitter, but maybe Joe, maybe because time has passed and we've seen the effects of it and what it's done for Twitter. You know, not everybody likes it, but some people like it a lot. People that are...

very much into free speech and reduced censorship. They're a big advocate of what he did. And Joe had a chance to thank him and said, thank you for doing this. I think it was a huge move. And Joe, I think he really believes truly that Elon did something special there and something important for us as, you know, just people that get to use Twitter, really. Yeah, I mean, it's...

We were talking earlier about like the evolution of social media's involvement in political elections and like at what point it really became political and quickly. I mean, I think there was a article I read that said in,

In the UK is kind of where it started. And Instagram was like super influential back in 2015. And it didn't even come out until 2011. So within four years of Instagram coming out, it was like a big tool for developing, you know, for influencing elections through, you know, reaching a younger audience, essentially. Yeah, there's a lot of power there. A lot of it. And, you know, I think there's a responsibility that these companies have

When they are these like platforms where people seek and find information to have to have it be open right from both sides and to not restrict the information. And that's obviously a huge topic during this election is censorship and and making sure that that, you know, the freedom of speech is preserved.

or the right to have freedom of speech. Yeah, I think it was really interesting to listen to them talk about that because to Elon, he's like, I didn't have a choice, basically. He just felt so compelled. It didn't matter what the cost. It was like, if we didn't have this... Well, it obviously didn't matter. It was massively overpriced and it was $44 billion. Right, yeah. I mean, he just did it. Look, there's two things at play here that are important. One is...

is there's always the argument that do the social media companies not get the right to censor who they want to? It's their company. Like, does this fall under freedom of speech? That's one issue alone. Second to that is when the government steps in to try and control the narrative and the message, like they did with Hunter Biden and the laptop and suppressing that. You know, Elon talks about

um communication from like if harris wins then not only would there be bigger boycotts of twitter probably according to him that there it may even be a move to try and shut it down yeah you know and that kind of government censorship is not the direction you want to go

Right. It would be bad no matter which party does that. Yeah. You know, and it's easy to say as well. Oh, she won't do that. Or how would you know? Like it's unlikely to happen, but he's pretty sure it would. Right. And he runs it and he's giving warnings. The big thing about his interview with Joe, which I found interesting, he makes some bold claims. Yeah. Right. And we're going to get into some of those things.

But what's important is there weren't a ton of articles rebuking these claims very heavily. And media is almost all left leaning. And that makes you think, wow, is there something to it? Is it maybe harder to dispute these claims then? Then, you know, you'd think. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's interesting that you mentioned that like the

The majority of the mainstream media is sort of controlled by left-winged people. I don't want to say controlled, but infiltrated with them, right? They're people that tend to believe in those ideals. And we're having this discussion post-campaign, three days post-campaign, and yet this podcast with Joe and Elon happened the day before, right? Yeah, it was a few days before the election. But, you know...

Now, even within these three days, like there's been a lot of talk about how the Trump campaign did not go through those mainstream media platforms to advertise and to promote his campaign. He took an alternative route like going on the Joe Rogan podcast. Yeah. You know, there was a... And many big podcasts. And a lot of them. I mean, between him and J.D. Vance, they probably went on like...

12 different podcasts like big of the big some of the biggest podcasts in the world if you added up all of the views and I mean Rogan would be probably 40% of all the views for all the different you know whether it's Apple Spotify YouTube X all the ways that these shows have released it's like close to a quarter of a billion views yeah that's

And I would say that's conservative because they, you know, we know what happened on YouTube where they were literally like messing with the, not letting it trend for, you know, like that whole thing. I mean, Joe and Elon talked about it. It wasn't trending. The Trump interview was gaining over a million downloads an hour for literally two days. I mean, that's an absurdly fast growing video. Right. I mean, like it's,

almost unheard of. Yeah. Yet it wasn't trending after a certain point. You couldn't find it. Yeah. And it really did. Once it came back and it was trending, I think it stopped at about 37 million views. Yeah. And once they got it back up again, it now is at forty five. Like it really took the wind out of the sail. Yeah. And slowed its progress down. Now,

YouTube, supposedly their excuse is they're not sure why it happened. There's some talk that maybe it was just the people were reporting the video, meaning they didn't like it and they reported it. So it automatically down-regulated. Mm-hmm.

But who knows? Yeah. You know, they just seem like convenient answers. I mean, it's the type of thing that as soon as Joe said anything about it to YouTube, it should have been an instant fix, a switch. Right. And it just wasn't. Right. So, you know, it's hard to say, is that election interference? Because obviously one side would say yes, another side would say no. But it's some funny business and it's not cool.

And you compare that to Kamala going on, what's that other podcast? Something Daddy? Call Her Daddy. I don't know, I never listened to it. Yeah, I mean, three quarters of a million downloads in three weeks. I mean, you know, this podcast has had bigger episodes than that. And we review another show. I was interested to look up and see what the most viewed YouTube videos were of all time. There's a lot of

Can you guess? Most viewed ever? Yeah. I don't know, probably like a Justin Bieber music video.

um they shock shock shock the baby shark baby shock yeah it's gotta be that insane get 15 billion views on baby shark i mean it's not that important but it's just crazy and then you know some music videos coco melon is like number four or five it's gotta be a bunch of kids it is it's just because yeah i mean miss rachel we watch it on repeat so mm-hmm

the soundtrack to our life. Yeah, but I mean, you know, it's a factor that played into this and it's something that should be addressed, right? There's no reason that these social media companies should have like an unreasonable bias. That's how I think the law should be structured. You know, you can have a bit of a bias. It's okay that the media is slightly left-leaning

Just be slightly left-leaning, though. Yeah. Don't be all the way to the point where you're censoring the other message. Right. Because...

the people of the country are going to stop figuring that out and they're going to get pissed off and they're going to lose trust in media. Yeah. It's why everyone goes to podcasts for their fucking information now instead of the newspaper, which is wild because most of the big podcasts are comedians. We're like reverting back to like when the radio came out and it was like this progressive thing of like people got to

say what they wanted and play what they wanted. And the news, you know, went from being on a newspaper to where it was like a company had to put a lot of effort into it to where it was like an individual just got on and was like, here's what I think. And here's what I know. And here's someone else that knows these things. And so like talk radio talk shows, you know, obviously eventually then got bought up by a big media companies. And now, and then we went to TV and social media and now we're like podcasts are growing again. And, and, uh,

particularly I think Joe's podcast is this open platform for people to come and talk about their ideals, talk about their views, talk about what they know that might be censored in mainstream media. And the fact that the Trump campaign leveraged it, leveraged this, this, you know,

media form during the campaign saved them a shit ton of money. Well, that's a point I want to get to. So I ran some numbers with ChatGBT and let's be fair, chat is often left-leaning too. Yeah. But it came back with how much the different campaigns spent. Yeah. It said something like 1.5 billion was spent by the Kamala campaign. That's an insane amount.

insane amount of money. Well, think about it. You're the Democratic Party. Yeah. Imagine if this year they just said, you know what? I don't think we can win. The president is obviously, you know, not able to continue doing his job. We've got to quickly switch to the vice president. It's just too fast. It's not going to work. How about we take 1.5 billion and actually enact some of the

changes that we haven't been able to do for the last four years. Let's go in and spend some money on inner city schools or poor people or just helping some social service. No, they blew it all on Kamala to lose. And that, I think they said it worked out to like $25 a vote per vote. That's basically how much it costs. On the Trump side,

And remember, he won with an absolute landslide. It was a landslide. Yeah. As far as elections go. No Republican has won the popular vote for 20 years, something like that. And they spent half as much, $750 million, which is like $12 a vote.

And again, it's leveraging, podcasting, it's smart. And you've got to ask yourself, is this indicative of how each party would be spending in the economy? Because if you're looking at it, if you're looking at two teams...

and you need them to make money and run an economy, right? Yeah. Which one are you going to pick based on how they spent during the campaign? Exactly. You're going to say who got the most votes for the least amount of money and what is the difference? Yeah. Well, Trump's campaign and the right, it's significant. Yeah. It's undeniable. You can be as mad at them as you want. You can just hate the fact that they got in. That's okay. It's all fine. Like, okay.

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To start, there's a great post on Adweek on Instagram, at least is where I saw it, that kind of breaks down the ad spend on traditional media outlets per campaign, you know, outside organizations and then the actual campaign themselves. And then, you know, a huge topic in this election was...

efficiency in the government and spending and the debt that we're carrying and all of the issues that we're dealing with in terms of money and like our, in our economy and in our country, like where the money is going. And Elon, you know, is hoping to play a big role in this. You know, we heard a clip about that at the beginning of this podcast. If you look at

the way that these campaigns ran from a business standpoint. You would call it the customer acquisition cost. And since social media and these alternative influencer networks have developed, the customer acquisition cost has decreased so significantly, I mean fractions,

from what it used to be. You know, every company costs $10 to $15 for a customer to buy a product that costs $20. Now with influencer networks and these like, you know, free media platforms where people are seeking out more fit, less filtered information, basically the customer acquisition costs, just as you said, it goes down so significantly and in their conversation, which we can get more into, but like,

with between Joe and Elon talking about how Elon will increase the efficiency, you know, he's talking about like basically putting some of the government agencies, like turning it into like a, like turning it to the private sector. The private sector has to be more efficient. They are more efficient because if not, then they have no, then they'll fall to the bottom. They won't succeed. You know, in the free market, you know, if you look at it like in a, on a microeconomic level,

in microeconomic context, like,

companies that are efficient, cost effective and do good, they rise to the top. And that's, I think, something we need to remember that our government is not above economic principles, but because they're essentially a monopoly, so they shouldn't be above them. But because they're the government, they are a monopoly on some of these things. Like getting your driver's license. Why is it so difficult to get your driver's license? Imagine if you owned a company, right? You have a laundromat.

And your customers come in and they wash their clothes and there's all the quarters and da-da-da-da. But imagine if your paycheck and the survival of your business has nothing to do with how many of those quarters come in. That money you send off somewhere, but all your paycheck and the payment of the building is just paid by something else. Maybe you're a trust fund kid or your dad pays for it and it just exists. How hard do you think you work?

You know, you think you're going to go out of your way to create efficiencies throughout that whole program. I mean, you would just hire to outsource every job that you don't want to do because you didn't have to pay for any of the paychecks. You know, there would be no profit loss tracking that would be necessary. I mean, many government workplaces are like that.

Just because they can be. I mean, I don't even blame them. I would do the same thing if I was in those positions. It's like, why? There's no incentive to save. And that's the big question, right? It's kind of the difference between the left and the right right now is the left is like tax the billionaires, tax the rich people.

They tried this in England, they started taxing all the millionaires a lot more and 20% of the millionaires left the country. Because they're millionaires, they can move. And it ended up being a net loss. So great work and you've lost people that know how to make a lot of money. Now I'm not saying that I don't believe that very wealthy people should pay taxes and pay their fair share. I'm all for it. They definitely shouldn't get away with paying nothing.

However, is that necessarily going to fix the issue if on the back end, the government is just spending and spending and spending and it's just pouring out? It's like, why not just work from both ends, collect slightly more taxes that are reasonable and also tighten up? I mean, who knows what the potential of running a really efficient government looks like?

I don't know a country that does it. I'm sure America isn't doing it well. If we could do it, what, 30% more efficiently? That's an incredible amount of money that we could save and put back into this country. The big thing is this, right? And Elon was talking about it. We've got the national debt.

And the interest that America pays on that is almost as large as the defense budget. Which is huge. Which is huge. And eventually those numbers will completely swallow up all of the money that the United States makes if we stay on the track that we're currently on. And no one's been able to do anything about it. Now, who knows if Trump can do anything about it? But this is a good start. That's something that's very serious. Yeah.

Another thing they kind of talked, they touched on briefly in terms of spending and money and the deficit that we're in as a country is tariffs. Trump has said a lot about, you know, putting tariffs on goods. And I think I really appreciated Elon sort of cautioning, you know, Trump to do that. I hope I hope he listens, because if you look at it again from an economic standpoint, tariffs do not always work.

typically don't turn out the way you want, especially in the short term. I mean, we're talking like we know fucking anything about tariffs, to be honest. No, but I mean, you know, in my, you know, education, I did do some economic, you know, several economic, you know, economics classes. And you know, subsidies work better than tariffs typically do in raising overall, like, benefit. Like, the benefit grows when you create a subsidy than a tariff. Because Elon was saying...

You know, raising a tariff can work, but you have to make sure the infrastructure is in place at the destination. You have to be careful because sudden changes in tariffs basically affects supply chains. And so costs change overnight. And so you can't overnight just say, oh, all of a sudden this product costs...

you know, $4 to bring in from a country, you know, this piece of a thing that is manufactured in America now costs twice or three times as much. That's not really like the, the manufacturer is going to pick that up, not of the product that they use that small widget or whatever for. And so I really enjoyed listening to his perspective on this. And I really hope that he, that Trump takes Elon's advice on this and that he, he,

to instill these tariffs until there's some infrastructure and does them sort of slowly because he says America is still the biggest, second largest manufacturer in the world.

And, you know, trade improves prosperity. So, you know, specialization and the competitive advantage that some countries have in creating certain goods, like we don't necessarily want to walk away from that. Like there is an importance in like creating, having sustainable jobs in the United States, but we don't want to necessarily like say, oh, we can make every single product better just because, you

we've made it. Like, that's just not the truth. I mean, some things will be more expensive. And they will be more expensive. And if we put tariffs on the products and the goods and the pieces to make products in America, you know, the widgets, you know, so they call them. But saying that, it does sound like, so then if you take a step back, the argument is tariffs are bad, tariffs are good type of thing.

But it sounds like it's more than that. It's somewhere in the middle. It is. Meaning tariffs will work and maybe should be encouraged slowly over time as we build back things that are important for us to make here, right? They often talk about the automotive industry. Right. You know, certain things like that. Maybe some warehouse jobs, like factory stuff, making clothes. Like, who knows? Maybe some things like that. And other things, we just let it.

I mean, it sounds like microchip should be a big one that they make back in the U.S. again. Yeah. Because that was a huge issue during...

COVID. So, you know, there's some element there that will be useful and it will be interesting to see the influence that Elon has. I mean, will it be another example? And what I love about it is Elon will talk about it. He's not going to ever hide or be afraid of Trump. If they fall out, Elon will just say what happened. And people, you know, I mean, he's somebody that has gained

a lot of people's trust. Yeah. He made an analogy and I'd never heard it before, but it makes so much sense that like when it comes to manufacturing, you think about like, for example, like the car companies, do you remember him talking about this? That if you, um, had a, like a, uh,

a Japanese car company and American car company. And you thought of it as the Japanese car company was, they were all on a boat and there's eight people rowing and one person steering in the Japanese company. And then on the American boat, there's one person rowing and eight people steering because everyone in America really like has big ideas. They want to be the boss. Like that's like this pride thing rather than getting the job done. It's like,

who was responsible for getting the job done and like who gets credit. So when, you know, historically when car companies have failed, American car companies have failed, it really has nothing to do with the quality of the product. It's really like the, who, like there's too many cooks in the kitchen. It also was the quality. And then when, you know, when the car company goes under, they would fire the one person that rose, you know, like, and then there's still no one moving the company forward. So, yeah.

Yeah, it's very true. And then...

Some of this comes back to also, you know, that's bureaucracy in a sense, right? You've got too many managers and causing problems. Almost the same as when you have too many rules and too many laws governing what is going on for corporations. And Elon was talking about that. He said it's hard to get things done right now because we've allowed these government departments to get so large that they're making so many rules

that basically stop progress from happening. And there's no better example than the DOJ lawsuit that he's facing at SpaceX. And this is so wild. Like when he brought this up, I was like, this can't possibly be true. And you look it up and they do have this lawsuit. And it's that

Elon is prevented from hiring non-US citizens for security reasons because SpaceX is, you know, they have content, what is it? Ballistic missile technology, right? So, yeah, they can just fire missiles all over the planet if they wanted to. And they also...

and now being sued because of discrimination for not hiring immigrants. And it's like, but they can't. There's a law for security. The DOJ only gets to choose a few large lawsuits a year. I mean, that seems to be directly coming from the Biden administration. And that is just crazy. That's absurd. I mean... It's like it's just an attack.

Like it doesn't make any sense. Surely they can put their energy into far more useful lawsuits to other companies. Or just like their efforts into something more productive in general. It's like, what are you trying to achieve? Exactly. There's like, no, what is the end goal? Like you're just trying to make an example out of someone that has a lot of attention on them. Well, this is why Elon warns during this podcast that if the right loses, it's going to be dangerous for democracy.

you know, for a multitude of reasons. And this is just a few of them. And that's a crazy thing to say in terms of just listening to the election, because there are half the country that are convinced it's the other way around. Half the country is like, oh, no, it's Trump that will destroy democracy because he and they've labeled him a fascist or whatever. And it's like, that's going to destroy it.

It's just kind of wild that we've just got these complete opposite ends of this conversation. Yeah, I think the polarization in our political landscape right now makes my head spin. I'm sure I'm not alone in that. And

I also believe strongly that, you know, in almost every scenario, there's three sides to every story. And what we really only hear is like, you know, yours and mine. Like we hear what you have to say and you hear what I have to say, but maybe we're not always getting the truth in what is going on. And that's what I seek now. You know, like I think everyone...

When you are so loyal to one side or the other, you can kind of put blinders on and you can be like, I'm just going to like go with this narrative. But I think it's really important that we listen to both sides of the story and sort of find in the middle, like what the real truth is. It's so difficult to do though, because, you know, to be well up to date and educated on what's happening with politics, yet also being

don't get sold on either side. So that means you're really very neutral. You really don't have an emotional connection to either side, yet you know a lot of information around it. That's hard. Because it's the information itself pulls you to one side or the other. It does. But I'm not saying you can't eventually pick a side or agree that one person is more right than the other. But that's where the problems start because you just start becoming pretty biased. Yeah.

to the information you're hearing. And then there's a tendency to demonize the other side. Yeah. Then you get into kind of an echo chamber. Yeah. And it's, it's almost a slippery slope then. But I think it's just important to be like, it's, you know, everyone is entitled to their opinions. That's like the whole point of democracy, right? Is that there's a potential for each side or either side to win. And it's, and it's a, it's,

echoing what the people want. Every four years, it can change, and that's why the two-party system works. Elon has said he's... Neat parts now. O'ReillyAuto.com offers in-store pickup, same-day home delivery, or next-day home shipping. Get more parts your way at O'Reilly Auto Parts. Oh, oh, oh, O'Reilly Auto Parts. He was not really politically active before this election, but he felt so...

He was a Democrat three years ago. Yeah, he was. He was. And he was he felt so inclined in this election, particularly, you know, there was a lot of reasons, but particularly when he realized what was happening with the immigration, you know, and saw the statistics on the numbers of illegal immigrants being directed into swing states.

That, you know, and don't have voter ID laws and things like that. And that, you know, that was happening as soon as the Biden administration took over, you know,

I'm curious, what gets me about this topic is I don't see a lot of rebuttal from the other side. I don't get a, whoa, whoa, we see that that's what it looks like, right? But here's what we say is going on. We're not really getting anything from them. Well, a big example of that is when he was talking about what's happening with the immigrants. There's an app now where they're flying them directly to swing states. The government website that he talked about

from Homeland Security is showing who is going where overwhelmingly in the future. If they get the opportunity to vote, they will vote for the left. Right. And they're speeding up the, their ability to get citizenship. Yeah. That to me sounds really sketchy. Right now, when John Fetterman was on the, um, a democratic Senator, um,

the dress is kind of like he works at a gas station, bless him. He basically said, oh, well, I think it's, you know, because of labor shortages, that sort of thing. Even JD Vance said that. So maybe, maybe that is it. Yeah. But ultimately it is likely to lead.

to this other thing. Likely, right? And it doesn't sound good because like Elon said, if you change the swing votes to all the swing states, I mean, to no longer be swing states, they're just all blue. All of the elections then will be that way. Our two-party system basically collapses, right? If there's no swing states, if there's no... And to be clear, I don't want that to happen...

for the Republican Party either. I don't want them to be able to guarantee that they can always take swing states through some action that is anything more than just kind of politically...

you know, acceptable political campaigning. Right. Right. If you just move, you know, that's why I don't like the gerrymandering. I don't like messing with it. You know, they're all trying to hedge their bets, but this one seems nefarious and pretty ugly. And it's, it's a little scary because they've been very effective. Tens of millions of immigrants during the Biden administration. I mean, that is an absurd number. Yeah.

Well, if anyone out there feels like or is confident that there's a better explanation than that, it's just nefarious. Yeah. And that it's corruption, basically. We really want to know. I mean, listen, I'm pro immigrant. I'm an immigrant. I love America. I think it's the best thing.

country in the world and I'm so happy that I got to immigrate in and it was hard work and it took a long time and it's not easy and I want other people from other countries to be able to do the same and to work into that position and you know the answer is not just flying them into swing states and giving them credit cards it's absurd it's not the way to do it

Elon banged on about Peanut the squirrel a little bit too. I, yeah, I don't,

I don't know if I've been living under a rock or why. Maybe I'm just too busy as a mom, but I didn't really know about Peanut the Squirrel until I heard about him on this podcast. And it's comical, but it's also sad. It's like this sort of like, I wouldn't say lighthearted to everyone, but it... It's the type of story that gets people riled up, though. It does. People and their animals. When you make the point, though, that this is what happened to John Wick...

And it turned him into like an absolute savage. Yeah. Because somebody killed his dog and he made four movies where he killed the most people ever. Yeah. I mean, there is that like emotional gut response. That's why that movie was so big. Right. Because it was like. And there's four of them. Don't fuck with a man's dog. It's the saga of him revenging his dog's death. Yeah. And I am really looking forward to whoever makes Peanut the Squirrel's revenge movie.

movie oh that guy's focused on his only fans oh yeah if you search if you search peanut the squirrel on my iphone just on safari top stories republicans call to avenge peanut the squirrel's death at ballot box it's wild bomb threats made to 12 new york dec office for killing pet squirrel it is heartbreaking the squirrel owner denies using pets death promote it is heartbreaking though

to have, you know, to hear that crime is up in New York. You know, some of Elon's friends recently have been mugged there and the police didn't arrest anyone and don't come out to sort the crime out. Yet they're kicking in doors, flipping over furniture to eventually put down a squirrel. It's like, what are you doing? Like, are we keeping America safe?

Are we really keeping America safe right now or are we just harassing citizens? Like there is an argument to be made. I mean, you know, this case is just kind of a bit silly in its own right when it comes to a national election that ultimately affects the whole world. I mean, does a squirrel really get to, you know, change the balance? But it's the type of argument.

conversation that people have been having. Are we protecting our people? Are we harassing them? Are we prosecuting the right people? Especially when you hear these stories of, you know, letting certain people out of prisons and, you know, just, you know, these like

In California, you can steal up to $900 of clothes or whatever it is. And they're not even arresting you. And it's like, I want to know how much government resources were put into, how many people were involved, how much time and energy was put into this team invading this guy's apartment. Yeah. I mean, they didn't just go in and execute the squirrel. They obviously took the squirrel down.

There was a whole story. Can you imagine they have like, they're in like the little cop meeting. They've got a bunch of them. They're all eating donuts and drinking coffee. And they're like, all right, guys, they're like mapping out like, okay, you go up the stairs. Bravo team does this. We got to watch all the exits. Yeah.

And then one guy is in there just puts his hand up. He's like, guys, this is a squirrel. Should we just chill out on the squirrel guy with the cute Instagram? Yeah, it's sad. It's sad that this is where our country has gotten to that like that's something that we put resources into. It's like it's a squirrel. There's like I couldn't I don't know what the statistic is on how many squirrels are in our country. But the fact that one of them

got made it and has a home and is a domesticated animal why are we mad about that he's doing great i don't know pina was doing great but yeah it's wild that like to see elon genuinely getting upset yeah over the squirrel that's the most emotion he showed was talking about this pretty upset maybe he's a huge squirrel fan i mean that's clear to anybody that didn't know

I want to end on maybe something optimistic, but maybe not. Maybe this freaks everybody out too. But Elon thinks in the next 20 years, everyone's going to have their own AI robot, humanoid robot. And I think it's so true. I think, I mean, is it predicting like the beginning of Terminator? I don't know. But a robot assistant?

I mean, who knows what its capabilities will be in 20 years? What you could outsource it to. I mean, it's your companion for sure. We do know you like to outsource things. I'd love to outsource. Yeah. I just outsource the podcast or robot. Yeah. I mean, I think you could train jujitsu with it. Be badass. What worries me about this and they talked a bit about like is, you know,

He estimated, he thinks it's like 80% likely that like automation and AI taking over like so many things and responsibilities, roles, jobs in our country, 80% likely it'll be a good outcome. And...

you know, in 15 to 20 years. You know, in five years, we'll see some progress. In 10 years, we'll see some in 20, some more. What worries me is we already have so many issues with like protection issues, you know, like privacy, things like that when it comes to technology. And like someone's going to have to own and operate these robots like as from a software standpoint. And it's like, we're going to have this robot in our home with like

the ability like around your family, around your animals, around your children, around all of your personal belongings, around weapons you maybe have stored in your home. It's like all they got to do is do a little update on that software or whatever and they can track where we are in our homes using Wi-Fi. Why would they not put a camera in this robot and know literally what you're doing on camera? Here's the thing. They might...

But this is also why it's important for companies to not be connected to the government, for the government not to be able to control them with censorship, for the government itself not to have the power to be able to take control of your robots. I mean...

you know, they're gonna have to figure all that stuff out. And personally, I'd rather have Elon Musk at the head of that than Bezos or Zuckerberg or Bill Gates. I just honestly trust him more. I think he cares more about the human race. Like I just do, maybe I'm wrong, but it just seems more genuine. The other guys sometimes seem a bit weird, just care about money.

Look, takeaway from this is obviously Elon super concerned about where the election goes. Doesn't have to worry about that now. They won. I think he made $20 billion over the one day or two days since Trump was declared the winner. So, you know, Elon's doing just fine. He's almost at $300 billion. Can you believe that shit? It's insane. Yeah.

Yeah. RIP to Peanut the Squirrel. I mean, real sad stuff. And it's going to be an interesting four years to see what he's able to do. Will Trump work with him on these ideas? Will their relationship hold? Yeah. They seem like very different individuals, but maybe they can get some good work done. Will you look historically? A lot of...

trump's advisors and the relationship he has has crumbled you know and they've come out and said like this person's not easy to work with i don't respect you know i don't think he should be in this role or whatever and my hope is that it doesn't go that way because he's made a lot of really good promises that he's going to fix these things and he's brought people on his team like elon musk and rfk that have the potential really the the insight to do these things and it

be so exciting to see if those like said those relationships hold and what they can do yeah the hope is he's been a president now at least he did that he has experience in washington he does have a better chance of putting a better team together yeah and that's what it looks like he's doing yeah and i hope that that works because it's no matter who wins

Right. Whether it was Kamala or I want them both to have really good teams. Whoever wins needs to have a good team that can get at least the best that they can accomplish done because we all suffer. Yeah. I was going to say, you know, if you if you even if the party that you didn't vote for, the person you didn't vote for gets in, you don't want them to fail. Like you want them to do good by you. Right. Whatever that means. Yeah. I mean, look, it's nice to have talking points where you get to slag off the other party.

party that you don't care for, but there's always plenty of news for that. So you'll have plenty of reason to overall American prosperity is, is really what you're looking at because, you know, it's like cut off your nose to spite your face. It's like, there are people out there now that hope that America does start to crumble just so they can point at Trump and say, look what happened. We told you.

And that's a nuts way of thinking. Like, it just is. Well, it's self-destructive. It's so bad. It's so bad. But anyway, let us know what you think about this, about Elon's role in the election. Like, did his appearance on Rogan make a difference last minute? Do you believe what he's saying? Do you think that it's nuts? Yeah.

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