Deadlines Are Dead to Me with The Pioneer Woman
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I think I can do better. Okay. One, two, three. Better. That was good. Way better. That was really, really good. Really, really good. Hi, Jenny. Hi, Pumps. With proper shoes yet again. Real shoes. You're not wearing men's flip-flops, which is... They're women's flip-flops. Women and men. The one I buy are for women. Well, they're a flip-don't. Yeah.

Or a flip flop, pun intended. Pun intended because they are awful. I mean, absolutely awful. I've had it with them. They're so comfy though. What have you had it with, Pumps? I've had it with scams and even more particularly, I've had it with stupid people that fall for scams of which I am now one as of 5 a.m. this morning. So I wake up

And there's this random number that says I've been locked out of my Amazon Prime account. Pump the brakes. I just want to establish it is a random number. No, it's like letters. Right. Okay. Go on. I just want to paint the picture for the listener. Yes. So it's like random letters. And I open it and it says, you've been locked out of your Amazon account. And I was like, oh no. And it says, if you don't activate, reactivate it in 24 hours, I don't know, something will happen, whatever. Okay.

So I immediately, it's like five o'clock in the morning. The text came in at like 3 a.m. So I immediately go in. I do all my information. Right. My bank account information. Of course. My debit card information. Naturally. My fucking social security number. Naturally. Do all of it. Yeah. And then I kind of think, I hope that wasn't like a scam. Right. But then I just don't worry about it. Right. Until I get here. Right. And I say, Kyle's...

Kyle's this is what happened do you think I got scared she's like Amazon would not need your social security number I was like me God bless America Kyle's had to break she had to solve the problem for me it made my morning though I mean to give him your date of birth all of it

It's unbelievable. All of it. But it did direct me immediately to my Amazon account. They're hackers. They're scammers. I know. This is unbelievable. I know. But listener, this is the same person that made up a rule out of thin air that when one turns 60, one must get bangs. So this is on brand. Yeah.

I'm just, I'm shocked. I mean, I'm always so shocked sometimes when I'm around you that you're just making it, you know, just, just making it through life. You fall down all the time. Now we're giving out social security numbers, date of birth, date of birth, passwords, bank account information. And I believe for the permanent record, we could go back about three or four episodes.

And I'm talking about me fighting with somebody at Chase Bank because they asked me for my bank account number at Citibank. And they asked for my Chase bank account number. And I'm in Paris. And I picked a fight with this person. I thought I wasn't supposed to give it out. And you're like, yeah, right. You're not supposed to give it out. And here you are texting it to a 3 a.m. text. A hacker text. Red flag number one, you received it at 3 a.m. Right. Number two, it's a bunch of letters. I know all this now because Kylie explained it to me.

But for the permanent record, I realized that was the biggest dumb shit move in the history of the world. So I have to run up to my bank, redo all that shit. And the girl was trying to make me feel better at the bank. She goes, I woke up to that exact same text. And I said, but I bet you didn't give him all your information, did you? She goes, no. No.

Yeah, it's a pretty Ricky move. You might as well just go and give them your blood type and your STD records just for good measure. Thank God my STD records are 100% clean. That is good to know, listener. Kylie, can you put that in the permanent record? No STDs for pumps, which is a miracle considering her track record with giving out information. Okay, let me tell you what I've had it with. Okay. Non-pump.

graduation, graduations. It's the worst. It is so stupid. It makes me homicidal. So Richard Trott's in here today. And he says, yeah, I went to my son's graduation. And I'm doing the math on it. I'm like, Richard has little kids. Little kids. And he announces-

It was a preschool graduation. It's so stupid and unnecessary. I can't even talk about it. Then Kylie reveals that she had a kindergarten graduation wherein she cried during the ceremony. It was so emotional. And then Richard reveals that he recently went to a first grade graduation.

I remember for my kids, I went to their middle school graduations, adorable ceremonies. I might have even shed a tear. And we all know I cry once annually. So then you get to the high school graduation, which I would say is the real one. But here's my problem.

When we went from preschool to kindergarten, we just moved along. Never had a graduation. Kindergarten to lower school, we just moved along. Right. When I switched from lower school to middle school, I just trotted right along. Right. And here we are. And I know we sound like, well, back in my day, I walked uphill in the snow. Since we are 90. Barefoot, blah, blah. But

Here's the problem. I think we're over celebrating normal things. Like you should graduate from preschool.

There should not be a party or a ceremony. Such a low rate of graduation in preschool that we have to celebrate it. I mean, the same with elementary school. I would even say the same for high school. I mean, we have just received, as I'm sure you have, a lot of graduation announcements for our friends. Yes. Josh and I have just adopted this. Send us the kids of MMO.

That's a great idea. Just send the Venmo. Let's just cut to the chase. They don't give a shit if you go to a party. Let's cut to the chase. Right. Let's get to the nut cutting here. Kid wants money. Right. We'll do it in a quick, easy, transactional Venmo. You can go to the graduation. You can take your tassel from one side of your hat to the other. But here's one thing I'm never going to send money to. It's a preschool graduation, lower school graduation, middle school graduation. I have had it.

100% had it. These kids are going to be monsters when they show up for their first day of work. They're going to expect an office party for them at the end of the day. Where's the cake? Where's my mom photographer? Where are all everybody saying how great I did? It's gotten out of control. But the preschool, kindergarten, lower school, middle school, that all just needs to be fucking burnt to the ground.

That's right. I mean, just burn that shit to the ground. This isn't getting enough coverage in the press either. No. No. I mean, it's horrible. Everybody, we've got to get rid of these things. I think if we just all stand up in solidarity. No, we're not coming to your gender reveal. No, we're not coming to your stupid fucking kindergarten graduation. If we all just kind of revolt, maybe it'll go down. Social media? No. We would have a huge opponent. A powerful opponent.

powerful force called the power mom. Oh yeah. The power mom. I think we could take it together. We could probably take them down. But I mean, these women are serious about their helicopter like activities. Right. And they have an enthusiasm about motherhood, about the minutia, the non-important parts of motherhood. Right. The minutia. I'm more into the quality time with my child. Right. Whether it's sitting down and watching TV, walking the dogs, whatever.

Me doing activities circling around the school means nothing to my child. It means more to the other moms. Right. I'd be flexing for them. But these bitches, that would be our opponent. And I'm equal to the task, and I reckon you are too. Yeah, no, I can take on a power mom at this age. All right. All right. Well, welcome to I've Had It podcast, where we just waged war against power mothers of America. Yeah.

Which is a large set. I'm Jennifer. I'm Angie. She is the Princess Diana of Oklahoma and of podcasting and the star of our show. And we are all so lucky.

to have this bright, shining little angel in our lives. Kylie, what's going on on social media? I've got some good comments for you today. Oh, good. I'm going to start with Kaylin. Okay. She said, my two favorites, Jen, the athletic goddess. Oh, that's nice. And Pumps, the attorney goddess. Oh, okay.

I'll take athlete over attorney any day. No shit, I would too. She said, can we all take a second to thank God for these ladies? Jennifer and Pumps for President 2024. That is so nice. We're not worthy of this kindness. No, we really are not. We just declared war.

Yeah. Next week, they won't be near as nice. We'll let you take it back. But seriously. That's so nice. So nice. And obviously, thank you for recognizing my athleticism. Oh, God. In the permanent record on the World Wide Web. I mean, talk about feeding a stray cat. Love you. Love. I mean, like, really, really love you. OK, Kylie, who's next? OK. Someone with the name Kay said, Pumps, as a Floridian, I consider you the princess of Florida for sure.

Princess of all 50 states. Even with your crime against humanity, which is sweet tea gate. Sweet tea gate. And Jen, of course, is the sexiest person in the world. Oh, I bet you like that. Great. I mean, fantastic comments. So many things to dissect. Number one, the crime against humanity. I couldn't have said it better myself. Totally agree.

Number two, all that stuff about me being sexy is spot on. If you need to have any follow-up comments, just let us know. Send them directly. DM them directly to Kylie. I love that I have a Floridian supporter. I know. It's great. They're kind of coming out of the woodwork. Like the don't get your panties in a wad Florida people, I think. Yeah. Yeah. I do have to note that she had a typo that I took the liberty to correct, but she did say...

And Jen, of course, is the sexist person in the world. I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt. That's right. Okay, my last one. Okay. A star has five points. Jennifer, Kylie, Pumps, Richard, and Pickleball. Oh, the fifth star going to Pickleball. The fifth point. Today's trio, dare I say trifecta. Yeah.

Comments from social media. It is banger after banger after hum zinger. Kylie, you nailed it. If this podcast ever gets more than 10 listeners, we'll give you a raise. If that ever happens. Permanent record. For the permanent record. Yes. I'll tell you what's been the biggest game changer for me this summer. What is it? The Lume deodorant. Oh my gosh. No, I love their wipes.

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And five free travel packs with your first purchase. Go to athleticgreens.com slash had it. That's athleticgreens.com slash had it. You have got to check this stuff out. All right, listen up, listener. Today is an incredibly exciting day. Very exciting. For I've Had It podcast and particularly for our darling little state because we have an in-studio guest and she is an Oklahoman. Yep.

She is the pioneer woman. Yep. She is re-drumming who got in her truck, put on her boots and drove all the way to the big city to sit down with Jen and Pumps. Let's get re-drumming in here. Okay, re-drumming. How are you? Oh my gosh. Pumps, thank you for having me on your show. Thank you. Hi, Jen. Hi.

Hi, Rhi. Hi, Rhi. Yeah. Good supporting role. Yeah. It is. It is. It is her show. There's no doubt. I've heard. America's voted. She is not just the star of the show, but like a Princess Diana. I mean, that was hilarious. I could not be the furthest thing from a princess. I disagree. I disagree. But I'm so happy to be here. I'm big fans. Yeah.

Proud to claim you as fellow Okies. That's right. You know, when I knew you were coming today, I felt this, you know, humans are so tribal. And I felt this immediate, like, reason my tribe. Right. We're Okies. Like, I will defend her to the death. And I just felt this camaraderie. We all sound alike. We do. We do. Because my sister listens to you, my...

Different generations. One of my daughters listens to you now and it's great because you sound like us. Exactly. Exactly. And there's comfort in that. Yes. Okay. So Rhi, everybody knows that you cook, that you do recipes, that you blog, but there's something in your bio that I want to tap into today. Oh Lord. Okay. And it's the weirdo part.

I feel like there's an edgy side to re that's dying to break out. Well, I guess I'm strange. I don't know. I think something happens when the cameras start rolling on my Food Network show. And it's not necessarily that I behave, but I think I just want to get through it because it'll be over faster because I'm not natural on camera or I wasn't when I first started.

But when I meet people in real life, you know, they comment that I have a more irreverent side than they're used to. I used to burp the alphabet. I sort of – okay. I hurt my esophagus along the way because I – You were showing off your trick. Too many contests, but –

But yeah, no, just weirdo in the sense that, you know, I'm not right in the head. Well, I mean, you're in welcome company. Right. You're right. We are batshit crazy, the two of us. Yes, I am aware. It's unbelievable. Well, Brie, what have you had it with?

I, okay. How many do I get? As many as you want. You're the pioneer woman. Well, thank you. I mean, you're not quite the Princess Diana. I was going to say, how do you feel about sitting in the room with both the pioneer woman and Princess Diana? It's like a loser. Well, we're sitting in your design building. We're sitting in your building. We're sitting in the building you own, Jennifer. I, okay. I have had it, had it, and it just happened to me. So it's fresh.

With my children calling me because they need to talk through something or they need something, having a conversation with me

Only for me to find out at the end of the conversation that we've been on speakerphone the whole time. That's the worst. It is a violation. Yes, it is. It's a huge violation. We call this type of thing a dick over. That's a dick over for sure. Your kids totally dicked you over on that, right? They did. They did. And they keep doing it. They don't understand. So here's the most recent one was one of my beautiful children whom I love called me one day and said,

He was having problems with enrolling in summer classes because of a hold and a thing. And I wasn't in the mood. I've raised them. They're out of the house. They should be able to find out where to get the answers that they need. Agree. I totally agree. I was busy. I was working on my things. And I wasn't going to pretend like I was going to be helpful. So I...

You know, I was like, I don't know what to tell you. Just do it yourself. Yeah. I mean, well, how do I find that out? Well, you ask questions. And I, you know, so then. Just real talk. He kept coming. Yeah. Ask questions. Well, who do I ask? Well, you need to find out. You know, I just wasn't, I wasn't having it. And I asked him something back and there was this voice that goes, oh, hi, Mrs. Drummond. This is the guidance counselor. Shut up.

In front of the guidance counselor. Yes, and I'd been short and just, you know, I'd just been snippy and cranky and, you know. But my girls do it. My other son did it. He was at his girlfriend's house. Her parents were present. He didn't tell me until after. Thank God you didn't say anything. Well, I did. But you didn't say, God, her parents are weird. No, nothing about them. That's what I would have said.

But yeah, I said something that would make her parents question him as a choice for a boyfriend.

Right. Right. And then I was like, well, that's your fault. You should have told me you were on speakerphone. For sure. Josh does this kind of stuff. So you have the problem with your children doing this to you. I have the problem with Josh doing this to me. He'll have somebody in the car and he'll call me and he'll start in on something. And then I find out later somebody was on the phone or he does the reverse of this. The other day, and you've been in my office now, it's all open. He comes into the office. He had just left the doctor.

He's like, yeah, I went to the doctor. They ran all the blood work. She's saying that my testosterone could be a little low. And I have all these like four 30-year-olds that work for me, all millennials, right? And so I don't know if I'm going to do the pellet. And I go, can we talk about this at home later? And then I hear all this snickering, but it's just like this –

It's just a breathtaking lack of boundaries. But to your point, sometimes you just want to kind of grind your kids gears a little bit. And it's for you and the child only. Because, you know, we have to feign we are wonderful mothers publicly all the time. But when you're having a private phone conversation and you have an opportunity to kind of chew an ass...

There's something satisfying about that as a mom. Like, are you kidding me? You can't figure this out. I'm trying to raise you to be autonomous. And here you are calling your mom. And then you find out the guidance counselor. Here's this ass chewing. That is really an egregious violation. In his mind, he's probably like the pioneer woman. She's the perfect woman. She cooks. She does all this stuff. And you're just like, I was like, figure it out. Dipshit.

No, one time I was, I had told my youngest to blow the grass off of the sidewalk or the, what do you call it in the front yard? Driveway. Driveway. And then the little path. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. A hundred percent doesn't matter. So he said, I go, he wanted to go somewhere and said, after you do that, you can't. He's like, oh, I completely, completely did it. I was like, great. So I go outside. Not only had he not done it, he hadn't even tried to like move it. I don't think he ever touched the blower. Right.

So anyway, I call him out there and I just start chewing his ass out. I think I called him a liar, you know, the whole night. And I've seen my peripheral vision. Two of my neighbors are going on a walk. And I just thought, of course, I'm losing my shit. I'm a child. I never lose my shit on. And the neighbors are here. So I'm like, great. DHS will be here any minute. No, I mean, it's the worst.

Everybody has to have a meltdown on their kit. Well, I'm starting to wonder if they do it as sort of to insulate, to train me to stop chewing their butts. I am a tough mom. I mean, I'm just not, I'm not going to believe them. I'm not going to take it. So I think they're tired of hearing from me. So they're trying to train me.

To be on my best behavior anytime they call. Which one could say is a little manipulative? Knock.

Not kids. Not teenagers. No. No. Not kids. Not that. Never. Never. Okay. How do you feel about an email marked as urgent? Oh, my gosh. That is... I have had it. Now, this is more in the work realm. Right, right. And see, I feel... The reason I'm so excited to be here is I feel that I am the child born of you two. Like, I just... I relate in so many ways to both of you. And pumps, I...

I don't know if this is true about you, but I do believe that deadlines are simply suggestions. Yeah.

And I suspect that you do not conduct your life in such a manner. That's correct. They're just kind of guidelines. Right. I have a lot of emails that have urgent in the subject line on any given day. But I have found that it's really not urgent. It's really urgent about their schedule and when they want something from me. So my thing is I don't want to know

your deadline for getting this. I want to know the deadline after which the entire world will fall apart if I don't get it to you. So that's how I operate on any given day. The hottest, hottest fire. That's the one that gets out. So you're a procrastinator. Well, you think? Yeah, I'm a terrible procrastinator. So I am the exact opposite. If somebody puts urgent

I'm like, you don't even have to write urgent because an email comes into my inbox and I'm like, how quickly can I return it? A text comes to my phone. How quickly can I put this fire out? It's just an immediate. Kylie kind of lets her stuff kind of sit a little bit, not work stuff, but like her personal stuff. She'll be like, yeah, such and such texted me and said, I'll talk to her three days later. I'm like, did you text that friend back? No. I'm like, Kylie, you have got to change this behavior. So she's more like,

cut from your cloth. But no, if I see an urgent, I'm like, I'm equal to the task and I'll have it back to you so fast. You're not even going to know what to do with yourself. You want to demand urgency of me? You've got it. Well, see, it has the opposite effect on me because I tell myself-

That actually is not urgent. Right. That's not urgent. So I am actually going to approach this as if it's the opposite of urgent. So I put it at the bottom of your to-do list. Right. So it's a very psychotic cycle in my inbox. The rebellion of it. I like the rebellion. This is the edge. Well, I blame everything on two things. Okay. One of two things, being a redhead. Yeah. Yeah.

and or being a middle child. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of data on the middle child thing. You can totally lean into that. Yeah. The email inbox world is the bane of my existence. Yeah. I hate email. I hate it.

Texts that come to your phone. I mean, I just hate all of it. You have to answer all the time. Well, it's interesting because you did answer that text you got this morning where you handed out your social security number, date of birth, and bank account number. That was so stupid because it was from Amazon. And you returned that at 5 a.m. I did. I mean, I don't know. Pumps. I know that was so bad. Well, Ladd, my husband, got one of those and screenshotted it and sent it to me so I could help him with it. So he felt

At least he didn't fall for it, but he sort of did fall for it. Right. But did you immediately say that's a scam? Yeah, obviously. You should have. I'm up at five. You should have texted it to me, which normally you would have. I know. I just was like, oh my God, I've got to get my Amazon account working. That was the only thing I could think of. Like,

I probably order something from Amazon every day. By the way, pumps, this has, this is another, I'm just jumping to a different topic, but I do want to tell you that I also am, I am two years sober from Dr. Pimple Popper. I made myself nauseated. No, it's so bad. I had like an autoimmune response.

Because I was watching them so often. So much. And I almost kind of needed them. And so I overdosed. And it made me sick for 12 hours. Were you binging through the night as well, not getting sleep? I wasn't losing sleep over it. But I was replacing productive activities with it.

Rhea, I hate to tell you this, but I've been on TikTok. So they were talking about what's on my For You page. Blackheads in the ear. I did it for like 45 minutes. I was like, I can't do it. I can't. I got to get it off. Because I was just like, oh my gosh. And one of my kids came in and was talking to me. I was like, just a minute, just a minute. I mean, I'm obsessed. I get so into it. Are you still? No, I stopped doing it because I was like, cannot do it.

I'm like one day it was like six hours. I went down the rabbit hole at the zits, the blackheads, all that. So I was like no more. You know what? My journey was it started with this YouTube video and I'm almost afraid to tell you the title.

But it was, I will tell you. It's called Gary's cyst. Was it the back that kind of had mashed potatoes coming out? Yes, yes, yes. That was my gateway drug. That was mine too. It was? That was the exact video. I had an ingrown hair in my vaginal area. Pups came over.

Put the headlamp on. I have a whole toolkit. No gloves. She went in and extracted the ingrown hair in my vagine and was excited and enthusiastic about the entire process. Bizarrely excited. You know, I read about that on the Daily Mail. There are pictures of it.

Yeah, no, that is friendship. That is friendship. It never even occurred to me not to go in. But you know the phenomenon where it's not as easy to change other people's baby's diapers. Right. I'm not sure I could pop a

Another teenager's pimples. Yeah. I want to watch the glow. Watch it all. But I don't want to do it. Roman, my youngest son, had tubes put in his ears. And my sister was married to an ear, nose and throat doctor at the time. It's her ex-husband now. But she was like, hey, Craig, will you please when everything you pull out of Roman's ears, will you please preserve it and send it home with Roman? Yes.

So Roman is two. We come home from the hospital. Pumps is waiting on my front porch. This is back when we smoked cigarettes. She's smoking. She's, do you have it? Do you have the stuff? Like a junkie. She opens up the container, no glove, bare backs her hand in, grabs the ball of earwax, goes completely through all the texture of it. She's like, oh, I'm

That was fantastic. And then she goes and scrubs her hands. And I mean, it sounds so crazy. And it is. But if you know pumps, it's just like, I know that if I have a major zit or an ingrown hair, I have to preserve that for her to be able to extract it. No, it's bad. Yeah, it's bad. A.K.A. crackheads. Okay, let's segue over to...

marriage, and how people online identify and talk about their marriage and talk about their husband. You know, I like to, before I'm snarky, I like to shine the spotlight on myself a little bit. And I, you know, I actually, I've been blogging for years. I started blogging in 2006. And I always did have a very positive way of talking about lad. But it was more like I was

I was kind of posting pictures of his butt wearing – not naked, wearing Wranglers. He's a cowboy, you know, chaps and Wranglers. Yeah, yeah. Take pictures and post them. So I've always kind of spoken glowingly about that. I just never got into the habit of kind of busting his chops. But lately – and part of this is just being old and bitter and –

You know, I'm in the twilight of my life. And so, but this, the phrase that gets me, and I love every one of you who have ever used this phrase, but I tell my daughters, you are not to use this phrase about your husband. 10 years ago, I married my best friend. Or 25 years ago, I married my best friend with a wedding photo. Right. And I've just never understood the concept of...

Lad's my guy. Right. You know, we hang. We do things together. But considering him my best friend is tricky. Yeah. No. Who are you going to talk to him about? I mean –

Girls is where you like get all your venting out and stuff. Like he would listen. Especially if it's about him. Yeah, if I want to talk about my husband. Lad really pissed me off. Yeah, do you talk about him in the third person? Or do you say you? Lad was a real dick today. Didn't you think so, Lad?

Which I love the name Lad. I do too. It's a great cowboy name. But also, I have two daughters that are Gen Z and they're, you know, 25 and 23. And I'm on to them. And, you know, I will not allow them to have gender reveal parties. Thank you. When they not allow their children to have graduation parties. But here's the thing I was thinking is about graduation parties for kindergartners and families.

The generation now that is having children is not aware that that was

That was not happening. Right. That when we were. Right. They don't. They think it's normal. They absolutely think it's normal. Yeah. The over celebrating. I just think if you celebrate everything. Nothing. And something really big happens. Right. Do you feel it? Yeah. Are we breathing sociopathy? I mean, if everything is a huge event and that's your normal is cupcakes, rainbows, being air pumped up your ass all the time. When something really good happens. Yeah.

Do you feel it? Do you know? I just, I think there's just a lot of over-celebrating going on, but I have to share something with the two of you. A very alarming discovery that I found on the internet. Oh, good. Y'all are both going to die. I'm ready. It is a video that I found and it's a couple and she's pregnant. She has her belly. They're like Gen Zers and they have three balloons on each side of them. And they're like, it's our name reveal. Shut up.

Each balloon has a name like Lily, Trixie, you know, McKenzie. And they go through and she's got this poor guy, this poor whipped white boy trying to dance and look cute. It's awful. And then they start pumping balloons and they're going. And I'm just thinking, I wonder how many takes she made this for do. I wonder how much how browbeat he got. And they finally land on the name. And I'm like.

and name reveal party. This is out of control. Who are these monsters? These are the people that had preschool graduations. Right. Exactly. They don't know that there's another way. We need to show them the other way. My responsibility is to

go through my daughters to change the world, you know, when it comes to one daughter at a time. We'd love to be on that committee. Yes. I'll, uh, you can be aunt pumps and aunt. Yes. Yes. Or aunt Jessica. I'll just never hear that. She's never going to hear. I'm never going to hear the end of that.

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So, Pumps, you know I exercise all the time and I'm constantly trying to stay hydrated and I get so bored with just plain water. So I found this new product called Hint. And you know like when you go to the spa and it's like cucumber infused water or watermelon infused water and it's just like real water but just this little hint. Delicious. Tiny little hint.

tiny little flavor. That's what this water is. And I've just absolutely loved it. And I think you should start drinking it because then you can just get off that iced tea, give your kidneys a break. I do drink Hemp Water probably about 50% of the time. I'm definitely taking on more water and less tea, but it's because the Hemp Water, it just has flavor. It has a great flavor. I'm so proud of you. That's amazing. I mean, listener, if pumps...

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Let me ask you this. So I'm an interior designer and it's funny because people will be like, oh my God, you have such a cool job. I think that would be so fun. And at some point, I've been doing this for like 26, 27 years. At some point, everything becomes a job, even something you're passionate about the beginning. So I'll have clients that are indecisive. And I know when I've given somebody 17 different fabric choices, I know that they're the problem at that point. Because most people, two to three samples work.

And sometimes I just want to be like, I don't care. Paint your walls fuchsia. Cover your sofa in denim. Swing for the fences.

And sometimes I feel like I've had it. Do you ever feel like that with cooking and with recipes? Even though you are the pioneer woman, have you sometimes just had it with that stuff? Oh, yes. But ultimately, I've had it. I've just had it with myself. You know, I've had it with delicious. I've had it with nice and golden brown. And yeah. And honestly, yes, it's a job. Are you tired of doing life with the pioneer woman? No.

I'm tired of doing life with doing anything. I'm just, I love, I am a homebody and I, filming, I love the show. I'm grateful for the show. I especially loved it when the kids were growing up because it was sort of this scrapbook for many years. And that is nice. Yeah. And it's, I enjoy it. But like I said, I try to get through it because it's over. And I think I must have a little bit of

You know, just leftover camera anxiety being on camera. Because I'm just like, put it in here, start cooking. It's good. It's nice and golden brown. It's nice and golden brown. It's delicious. Move on. Get out of my house. But I love writing cookbooks. I love things where I am the keeper of my own schedule. I think it's when I have to report somewhere at a certain time. Right. Deadlines. And other people are there for me. Right. I feel a lot of pressure.

Everybody's waiting for you. I have to show up, I guess. Rhi, now we're going to play our game, had it or hit it. Let me roll up my sleeves. Yeah, okay. So you tell us if you've had it with this or if you would hit it if you like it. Okay. Oh my God. Welcome to had it or hit it. I would hit it. Had it. Had it. I hit it every day, sometimes twice a day.

Had it or hit it, boxed Kraft macaroni and cheese. Hit it. Totally. Love it. Like tonight, I'm going to stop and get some. Yeah, I agree. It's one of the only things I can make. Sometimes I do, I leave a little of the macaroni out so the cheese is more intense. It's extra cheese and concentrated. You should consider a career in cooking. You should. That's a great idea. What if I pitch that to the Food Network? Absolutely.

a theme. We're going to make some Kraft macaroni and cheese. You know what? This is the Pioneer Woman shotgun method right here. Remember how Josh likes to shotgun stuff? Shotgunning with the Pioneer Woman. Okay, had it or hid it? Recipes. I've had it with recipes. I don't want to reach up and get a cook

book off the shelf. And you know, I can't see I have to find my reading glasses. So I've had it with recipes, but I'm happy to take what I'm cooking and make a recipe out of it for others. I like it. So you can just eyeball stuff.

At this point, yeah. That's pretty impressive. She's a pro. Not baking. She's a pro. Baking, no. I'm actually a terrible baker. Really? Yeah. I don't have the patience. It's very precise. It's scientific. Right. The measurements. You can have a really bad outcome if you wing it on certain things. That's what happens to me most of the time in the kitchen is a bad outcome all around. Okay. Next, had it or hid it tattoos? Tattoos.

I'm sort of in the middle. I have no tattoos, but that's because I'm a fair-skinned redhead. And a middle child. And a middle child. Also, by the time I sort of thought I might like a tattoo, my body was shifting and changing. Right. I figured I would probably get a phrase or a word and it would turn into like, little one of them. That's what I worry about too. But I admire...

Really good ink. Josh has about 30 tattoos or something. Josh, come show us your tattoo. Don't ask him. One of the kids the other night said...

Dad, what are all your tattoos mean? He goes, I honestly have no idea. It's like Chinese characters, all sorts of like Sanskrit, all this shit that sounded good. And here's what's interesting about Josh. He got all of these tattoos over the age of 30. Okay, had it or hid it. And you're going to have to explain to our listeners what these are after I say it. Okay. Lamb fries.

had it with fries. I know they're balls, right? Right. So, listener, this is an Oklahoma treat. Are they cow balls or lamb balls? We call them calf fries. Oh, if it's cow balls? Yeah, or Rocky Mountain oysters. Right. Which is the biggest euphemism of all time. But I do not like them. I love them. With cocktail sauce? Yeah. Pumps likes balls a lot. Do you like them?

Thinly sliced. I saw that on Daily Mail too. So you like them little thin. That's the secret is more breading. Yeah, lots of breading. They're fried. Cocktail sauce. Yeah, I do like a lamb fry. A cowball. Had it. I've had it. I've had it too. I'm with you on that. Fried testicles. Okay. Okay. Our last one, vow renewal ceremony. Okay.

had it. But that's because I am a connoisseur of reality TV and every single couple that has renewed their vows on reality TV is now divorced. It's the same in real life. I mean, it's like five years away from your recommitment ceremony. You're done. Well, and it takes all kinds, but you were talking earlier about the name reveal popping balloon and the husband that was sitting there. You know, it helps to be married to

A manly man who has a tractor. Right. Never could get him to sit for, even if I wanted to. The idea that Lad Drummond would agree to a vow renewal in any form, he just would not understand the practical. We'd be like, we're married. Yeah, what would be the purpose? We have four kids. It's just so practical, it wouldn't even...

Love that he's super classical. I think it's red flag-ish. I think somebody's always fucked around. Somebody's fucked around and somebody found out. Right. And that's why we're renewing our vows. I must always. I have heard this theory of yours. And there's probably something to that. But also, I do believe that... See, I don't... Do you like having parties? I do think sometimes it's an excuse for a party. Not so much a... No, I don't like to have parties. I used to like them. I used to. As I've gotten older...

I don't. Throwing parties. It might be that they want to throw a party too. Where they're in the middle of it. I think if you want to throw a party, you can throw a party. I think this is a grab to mask something. Yeah, I think so too. Because this is a very dramatic thing to do because you've already been married.

you know, and then you're going to get remarried, but you never divorced. Do you and your husband sit on the same side of the booth at a restaurant? No, but he did have a girlfriend in high school who sat in the middle seat of his pickup next to him. He did confess this to me one day. That's some great Oklahoma shit. But I will say, so if we were in a band, I have a name. Okay, what is it? The

bitter hags because that's what we are I love it high five everything bugs us and we don't want to go anywhere stay at home bitter hags totally I love it this has been a super treat I mean I feel an instant connection I love how you've had it with everything even recipes that is so good Poms what do you have to say this is your show

Yes. Such a treat. I'm so glad you came. I mean, it's like we were really excited. Of course, Josh was out here dying. He was so starstruck. It was ridiculous. So thanks for taking the time. Thank you, girls. As I said, I don't like to go anywhere, but I was so excited to come here. Well, we'll have to go to Pawhuska next time. Yes, we do need to go to Pawhuska. I wouldn't mind eating at that restaurant. Well, I'll make you Kraft macaroni and cheese.

I have a special recipe for it. That's right. Excellent. Well, listener, please go give us a review, subscribe, do all the shit you're supposed to do, and we will see you next Tuesday or Thursday. Thank you. I'll tell you what I've had it with. Look here.

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