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Apollo CEO: Private Markets, Investment Alpha and Risk Management

2024/11/13
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Marc Rowan认为Apollo的成功并非完全依赖于自身技能和天赋,而是得益于行业中的根本性变化以及公司在顺势而为方面的良好定位。他认为,如今建立新的金融服务公司比以往更加困难,市场结构将导致公司规模呈现两极分化。Apollo的核心业务是信用发放,通过其在各个领域的专业知识(如飞机租赁、证券融资等),成为优秀的贷款机构,并发展了退休服务业务。Apollo的退休服务业务基于一个核心假设:公开市场,特别是公开固定收益市场,不提供阿尔法收益。因此,Apollo构建了信用发放能力来产生阿尔法收益。Apollo并非完全取代银行,而是专注于投资级私募信贷,这与银行提供的短期、运营密集型服务形成互补。Apollo专注于为长期资产(如基础设施、能源转型项目)提供长期资金,而这并非银行的优势所在;监管机构也鼓励投资者承担更多责任。Apollo无需像银行那样受到严格监管,因为其业务模式不涉及存款、期限转换或财政部准入等需要严格监管的方面。未来投资级信贷的公共市场和私募市场之间的界限将越来越模糊,但私募市场不会完全取代公共市场。Apollo的业务重点是创造阿尔法收益,而非单纯追求资产规模增长,其增长受限于其创造阿尔法收益的能力。目前的公开市场存在价格发现机制失效的问题,其风险主要体现在指数关联性和资本流动性上,而非个别证券的价格发现。过去十年私募市场的回报率将偏低,未来私募市场将出现洗牌,大型和小型公司将占据主导地位,中等规模公司将面临巨大挑战。私募股权行业的收费在很长一段时间内将保持稳定,因为该行业的重点是产生阿尔法收益,而非规模增长。机构投资者对私募资产的需求正在增加,这主要来自家族办公室、个人投资者、退休系统以及公共市场和私募市场的融合。公开市场固定收益的流动性已经下降,未来可能进一步恶化,这将导致流动性转向私募市场。Apollo的经营理念是追求阿尔法收益,而非单纯追求资产规模增长,其增长受限于其创造阿尔法收益的能力。Apollo的投资策略的核心是“购买价格至关重要”,即在控制风险的前提下追求超额收益。在市场环境充满不确定性时,坚持公司的投资哲学是具有挑战性的。Apollo的核心竞争力是其员工的判断力,而留住人才的关键在于创造一个最佳的工作环境。尽管同属另类资产管理行业,但不同公司在交易策略和公司结构方面存在显著差异。鉴于当前市场估值高、息差窄、地缘政治风险较高的环境,Apollo目前采取谨慎的投资策略,专注于投资级债券。当前市场的主要风险包括地缘政治风险、政治风险、财政赤字以及市场指数关联性和流动性风险。作为领导者,Marc Rowan 认为自己是一个服务型领导者,他关注员工职业发展,并重视公司文化建设。Apollo需要适应市场变化,不断创新,并积极参与新产品和服务的开发。工作不应该充满压力,员工应该热爱自己的工作。Apollo招聘员工时,更关注候选人的思维方式、驱动力以及团队合作精神。为了鼓励创新,领导者需要创造一个安全的环境,让员工敢于决策和承担风险。对年轻人的建议是:精通你的专业技能,保持自信,热爱你的工作。 Nicolai Tangen主要对Marc Rowan的观点进行提问和引导,并表达了对私募市场和风险管理的关注。

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Marc Rowan discusses the evolution of Apollo Global Management from its inception to its current status as a major player in the financial world, emphasizing the importance of adapting to changing markets and positioning the business for success.
  • Apollo Global Management grew from $40 billion to over $700 billion in assets under management.
  • The firm's success is attributed to positioning the business correctly and adapting to fundamental market changes.
  • Apollo's growth was not solely due to skill and talent but also to being in the right place at the right time.

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What does it take to stay resilient in a fast-changing financial world? How are private markets transforming the way we invest? And how does Apollo approach risk? Nicolai Tangen meets with Marc Rowan, CEO and co-founder of Apollo Global Management, to discuss the rapidly evolving world of finance and explore what it takes to stay ahead in an industry full of risks.

In Good Company is hosted by Nicolai Tangen, CEO of Norges Bank Investment Management. New full episodes every Wednesday, and don't miss our Highlight episodes every Friday.

The production team for this episode includes Isabelle Karlsson and PLAN-B's Niklas Figenschau Johansen, Sebastian Langvik-Hansen and Pål Huuse. Background research was conducted by Isabelle Karlsson.

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