LiveRamp achieved this growth by migrating Fortune 500 customers from Acxiom's product to LiveRamp's platform, focusing on digital targeting and measurement use cases. This allowed them to expand their portfolio and leverage success stories to sell to other large brands.
Acxiom's organic efforts to develop a product for connecting offline data to the digital ecosystem were unsuccessful. They saw LiveRamp's technology as a superior solution and decided to acquire it to accelerate their digital transformation.
LiveRamp faced challenges due to the complexity of Acxiom's custom solutions for each customer, emotional distress among Acxiom employees, and the ambitious timeline of six to nine months to migrate all customers. They had to rip out 90% of Acxiom's features and focus on the core functionality that customers valued.
Commercial sensibility is crucial for product managers to understand whether the product they are building will sell and why. It involves identifying the root cause of sales issues, such as product-market fit, roadmap alignment, or communication strategies, and addressing them effectively.
Anneka looks for candidates who demonstrate the ability to learn quickly, drive clarity in ambiguous situations, and handle complex stakeholders. She values diverse experiences over domain expertise and often hires people with backgrounds in sales or sales engineering to ensure they have strong commercial sensibility.
Doing things that don't scale is essential in the early stages of product development to achieve initial milestones. It allows teams to focus on rapid iteration, customer feedback, and problem-solving without worrying about scalability until the product gains traction.
Rubrik focuses on identifying a killer differentiating feature that solves an urgent and important problem for the new persona. They build a minimal viable product (MVP) around this feature and use it to gain initial traction, while also showing a roadmap for future capabilities to build trust with customers.
Anneka learned the importance of planning for future growth by identifying where new revenue will come from as the core market slows down. She emphasizes the need to have multiple growth levers in place to maintain a company's growth rate over time.
Anneka Gupta is the Chief Product Officer at Rubrik, a cloud management and data security company with a US$6B market cap. Before Rubrik, Anneka spent 11 years leading various teams at LiveRamp, including product, go-to-market, and operations.
In today’s episode, we discuss:
How LiveRamp went from $30M to $200M ARR in 3 years
Anneka’s jack-of-all-trades career
Why specialist hires can backfire
When leaders should get in the weeds
One area every PM can improve in
Rubrik’s approach to building product
Much more
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Referenced:
Acxiom: https://www.acxiom.com/)
Acxiom’s acquisition of LiveRamp: https://tinyurl.com/2shm83de)
Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/)
Auren Hoffman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/auren/)
Dentsu: https://www.dentsu.com/)
Dentsu’s acquisition of Merkle: https://tinyurl.com/yvxe6fws)
James Arra: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-arra-a43a06/)
LiveRamp: https://liveramp.com/)
Merkle: https://www.merkle.com/)
Rubrik: https://www.rubrik.com/)
Slack: https://www.slack.com/)
Travis May: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stmay/)
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Where to find Anneka Gupta:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/annekagupta/)
Twitter/X: https://x.com/annekagupta)
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Where to find Brett Berson:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brett-berson-9986094/)
Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/brettberson)
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Where to find First Round Capital:
Website: https://firstround.com/)
First Round Review: https://review.firstround.com/)
Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/firstround)
This podcast on all platforms: https://review.firstround.com/podcast)
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(02:11) Inside LiveRamp’s unique growth journey
(12:18) Anneka’s first PM role
(14:20) Leading LiveRamp’s marketing function
(16:17) Why the best product doesn’t win
(21:06) Crafting products for different personas
(24:53) Transitioning Acxiom’s customers to LiveRamp
(33:54) Why Acxiom chose to buy not build
(36:40) Anneka's leap to GM and product leader
(38:22) How 17 diverse roles shaped Anneka’s CPO approach
(40:54) The hidden career growth hack
(43:15) Where domain experience is overrated
(50:33) Mastering the art of altitude shifting
(53:54) PMs should undergo the same training as sales reps
(59:37) Strategies for selling to new personas
(62:40) Lessons from Anneka’s mistake at LiveRamp
(67:56) Who had an outsized impact on Anneka