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Matinee Monday: The Running Man (w/ Kulap Vilaysack)

2024/8/26
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The hosts discuss the opening scene where Arnold Schwarzenegger, as Ben Richards, refuses to fire on civilians, leading to his imprisonment and framing for the massacre. They question the government's motive and whether such incidents are commonplace in this dystopian future.
  • Ben Richards is framed for a massacre he didn't commit.
  • The government uses him as a scapegoat to control the population.
  • The Running Man game show is a tool for the totalitarian state to maintain power.

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Hello, people of Earth, and welcome to How Did This Get Made? I am Paul Scheer, and that was Matthew Boriza with his 8-bit How Did This Get Made theme. Stick around to the end of the episode because we have a five, well, almost six-minute long...

intro to the show that I could never subject you to based on We Didn't Start the Fire by Billy Joel to every movie that we have done. Oh, wait. I gotta listen to this. It's pretty amazing. So we'll play that at the end, so stay tuned for that. And that, of course, is my co-host, Jason Manzoukas. How are you, Jason? Hey, now. How are you? Very excited to have you on the show. I am thrilled to be doing what I consider to be a terrific movie. Oh!

Oh, boy. And also, my other co-host, June Diane Rayfield. How are you, June? I'm good. How are you, Paul? Very good. How are the allergies treating you over here? You know what? My allergies have been fine today. As soon as I walked into this room, they've started to go completely haywire. All right. Well, this is going to be fun. We can follow you the entire time through this. We can blow your nose into the mic. It'll sound nice. All right.

Do you need like a Claritin? You have one? No. Oh, there's Claritin on set. Really? Nice. All right, Claritin is coming. We're flying it in. We are joined by an amazing guest today to talk about a very special movie. She is a return...

How did this get made? Panelist. You can see her amazing show, which she created, Bajillion Dollar Property, season three, which will be released on CISO on June 1st. Plus, she co-hosts the amazingly funny and great show, podcast, I should say, Who Charted with comedian Howard Kramer. Please welcome Kulop Vilasak. Hello.

How are you? I'm so good. I took my Allegra right outside. I had a pocket pill in my jumpsuit. Oh, yeah. And right before I entered this room, I took it. So you and I. Got one of those pocket pills, huh? Me and Junie. Oh, yeah, man. Just loose pocket pills. For real?

loosey-goosey pills. Just popping those PPs. I keep a lot of lactate hidden around at every given point, just in case I come across some ice cream. I gotta make sure I got it. Got pocket lactate, car lactate. Some rogue ice cream. Hey, look, I don't ever want... Honestly, you'd be surprised. There have been many situations Paul and I have been in where we haven't had lactate on us. This is more for Paul. And it's like a serious issue. This is the saddest conversation. Okay.

I've ever been a part of. Because here's the thing, when you want ice cream, it's such a treat. It's such a decadent moment. Sometimes I'm not planning. And it feels like you're really living life. And so in that moment. Can I be honest? Stop trying to sell us lactaid and ice cream. All I'm saying

is lactate's a great pill and it helps all those people out there that are lactose intolerant. Are you trying to get a lactate sponsorship? If they want to give us money, it's totally fine. Now, Jason, I know that you could probably, I mean, like, lactate is probably the bigger problem. You have to carry around an EpiPen. I do carry around an EpiPen. It's kind of, I call that like a lactate pen. Very expensive. Very expensive to just hide EpiPens around. But you know that most people have trouble processing dairy. I do as well. I take lactate. But...

Well, you know, also the thing about lactate is the number one pill for lactose. Welcome back to how to just get lactate. The number one, the number one lactate discussion show for your lactose needs. There's other times when you need a lactate, like,

A lot of times it's late night city, late night city, late night like New York. You get out drinking, you want pizza. I hope you have a lactate on you. Yeah, and if you don't, you're screwed. Okay, don't roll those eyes and make that face. Is that the new catchphrase for lactate? I hope you have a lactate on you. No, it's enjoy dairy anytime, anywhere. Naturally digest dairy without the drama.

Without the drama. Without the drama of shitting your pants. I love without the drama. I know what the drama is. You know, all that drama of eating cheese. Oh, I don't want to have all this drama. I don't want to shit myself after I eat this pizza. Oh, we hung out the other night. We had a great time. And then there was quite a bit of drama. Oh, no. Did you guys get in a fight? No, we ate cheese without lactate. And it was Rudy 2 tootin' the rest of the night. I'm looking forward to it.

I'm looking at the Lactaid webpage right now and there's a lot of active women. You mean the one that you started? The fan page that you built? It's not technically a fan page. Via Squarespace? It's just kind of a zany thing and it's showing women on the go. Is it zany or zany? You pronounce it zany? I call it zany, you know? Guys, we're off to a great start. You know who would be a great sponsor of The Running Man? Lactaid. Yep. Oh, God. Oh, God.

Because, you know, in a crisis where you are without food, you may just get, like, a handed ice cream. And you're so hungry, you're going to need to digest it. Why should you suffer? Guys, I'm so excited that we are doing The Running Man, a movie that was viewed by my parents as being too mature for me to watch. Oh, see, I saw this movie, and I loved it. 1987 movie. Yep.

It is a movie that takes place or starting to take place in 2017, I guess, by the time he... Oh, is that right? Yeah, in The Running Man, it's 2019. So he is essentially... The movie starts off with an amazing helicopter shot. The movie starts straight away. Yes. They jump right into the... There is no finessing getting into this story. It's... I mean, this pre... I would argue that the first 30 minutes of the movie really don't...

even really need to be there. Arnold Schwarzenegger is falsely accused of a crime. He wouldn't fire on innocent civilians. He's a helicopter pilot, a military man, and there's a protest, big protest going on, and he has ordered to shoot the protesters in an effort to make sure you know he's a good guy. He's like, no, I will not shoot innocent women and children. And the thing I do love about this is... He will shoot innocent men, though. Yeah, yeah. Because he is...

Unless provoked. This movie is very fugitive-like. Oh, yes, I am. Sorry? Here's my question, though. In this time that they're in...

2017. Later on during the game show. The Running Man. People know him. The Running Man. People know him because he massacred all those people. He's a butcher. He's a butcher of Bakersfield. Okay, so. Also known as Bob. Sure. My question is, have there been other shootings like this? I think. If the government, why would they want to.

hang this on him? Because it seemed to me that they do this sort of thing all the time. Because a police or whatever military helicopter opened fire and killed these people. So they're killing the people that keep population control at bay. And they're saying they're blaming it on him. So like, we didn't do it. He was crazy. And it's a way to get rid of him and send him to a prison camp. That's fine. But are they doing this left and right? Yes. I think so. Absolutely. And blaming it on other people?

Yes. I think somewhat, yeah. I mean, I would argue that everybody's innocent. I didn't understand. I didn't get that. I mean, they don't give you any reason to know that. We're hypothesizing that the government lies to us. But I guess my question is, so it's not like every running man who's ever run a running man race. No. By the way, he's special. He's been framed. He's been special and unique. Okay. Okay.

He truly is an innocent man. But some of those other people are rebels. Or criminals. But why do they need a special order to get him to compete in The Running Man? We see Richard Dawson in a bravura performance. Richard Dawson is good in this movie. Straight up the best part of the movie. Damon Killian. Killian. Who loves you, baby? Yeah.

He is straight up just playing the host of Family Feud, but a little bit more evil. But he calls the president's agent, and he's like, get me the president's agent on the phone. We need to get this guy. But it would seem like he would be the perfect person to compete in the Running Man. When they're going through the database of who to compete, they show a baby. Did you see that? I saw that. There's a baby that was considered? Yeah, it was a baby. It was a mugshot.

Baby face marsh or something like that. He was a baby. He was a baby. Oh, guys, I would love to see a baby compete in the running. But there was, so basically the movie starts off, you see him not wanting to shoot on these people. He looked great with a beard. Oh, he looks great with a beard. He looked great with a beard. He should get a beard. He's a handsome man. He is a handsome man. You forget that because he's such a bad actor. Yeah, I know. How handsome he is. Wait, Paul, where does this fall in his career?

Filmography? Well, I was going to say, this is kind of where he is at his height, I would argue. Because this is post-Terminator because he's already doing I'll Be Back. Yeah, he quotes his own movement. Why is Ken's mouth wide? Why are you allowed to do that? He says it multiple times. At least twice.

And I didn't know you could do that. I mean, I think it must have been in his contract or something. It must be. Like, that's his brand. I gotta say that now. I gotta say it. I say that in movies. I push this through. People like that. The nerds on the boards will tell us, I wonder if he said it in any other movies. Oh, he said it in The Expendables. Now he says it all the time. Now I get it. Now, if he says it in The Expendables, I get it. Now it is almost a nostalgia piece. Yeah. But in that moment, to do movies at the,

like present movies at that time and continue to use the same catchphrase I feel like this is this movie is the height of Schwarzenegger because he's smoking a cigar throughout it and that just where is he keeping them by the way where did he get it oh in his butthole um

Multiple cigars are coming out of his butt. Havana, man. Havana turds, right? What's her name? Angela? Amber. Amber. Amber. Amber keeps the file. Maria Conchita Alonzo? Yes. She keeps the file in her vagina. Yeah. I didn't get that. Like the digital audio tape. Well, there was a comedy scene that you missed. Yeah. Where did it say? Near the end of the movie. We'll get to it. We'll get to it. Okay.

All right, so the reason when I think about the cigar, too, it's like I feel like Schwarzenegger is in his director's chair. Not because he's directing, but just his director's chair. And he's like, fuck it. I'll just smoke this in the scene. And no one's saying no to him. And he's like, I'm going to improvise this line. It just reeks of...

Like, I'll do whatever I want. Totally. This is right, just to give you an idea of where it is. Conan the Barbarian, Conan the Destroyer, Terminator, Red Sonja, Commando, Raw Deal, Predator, Running Man. So that's where he's at. So he's kind of. What's Raw Deal? Oh, Raw Deal is like a more of a serious movie that he did. But still, like, I mean, it was like Steven Seagal doing Alfred Justice. It was like a little bit more dramatic, but he's still blowing people away. Pretty sure you forgot Hercules in New York. Yeah.

Yes, that was in the beginning. He's a small town sheriff that agrees to help an FBI infiltrate the Chicago mafia. Oh, of course. That's a raw deal. So in Conan, did he also do kill puns? Or is that only not period cases that he does kill puns? Well, this movie is really, this I would argue is not even. This is Dr. Freeze. Yeah. It's a hide of kill puns. This is crazy. This movie is barely a movie. It's a game show. Wait a minute. This movie is the original Hungry Games. Ha!

This is, this movie is. Hungry games? The original Hungry Games. This is literally like we watch gladiators fight for our pleasure on TV. Yeah. We put them in a controlled environment. For food, yeah. And they have to fight each other. Yeah. They have to fight these other people. But this is one, and Arnold Schwarzenegger is the original Katniss Everdeen. Wow. Right? Wow.

How dare you? How dare you? Do you know what she's fighting? Yes, District 12. Yes, I know what she's fighting for. And her sister, but I would argue that Schwartz is fighting for his two good friends, Yafakoto and the super nerd. Yafakoto, top five character actors for me in life. I still talk about his performance in Midnight Run. Midnight Run, Living Let Die, amazing. Unbelievable. Not used.

used in this movie at all. Is he wearing a wig? Is that a wig on the off the coda? There's a lot going on with his... He also at some point I think is wearing a fake beard. Everybody in the prison camp... Because here's the thing. There's a very abrupt helicopter scene in the beginning where he won't

shoot the pedestrian. He won't shoot the innocent. Then they tackle him and take him away. Can I say one thing about that helicopter scene? They're flying a helicopter, open door helicopter above Los Angeles. No one's wearing any sort of helmet. They're wearing baseball caps and they're all talking in this, hey, so what's going on there? No yelling. He literally is hanging outside of the thing. He's like, you're screwed, man. You're absolutely screwed. There's tons of stuff like that. No emotion. No emotion. No volume. Only feelings.

Only Frankenstein grunts. It's like the bad version of that Hugh Jackman Logan ADR session. Like, get in there, make some grunts. And he's like, yeah.

That's pretty good. That is exactly what it is. Then there is a very also awkward and abrupt and truncated prison camp. Why do you need that scene? Escape scene. To show that he's strong, guys. Yes, that's exactly what it was. He grabs a man by his balls. He does a lot of ball work in this because he also kills Chainsaw with the balls. I feel like balls. That's the thing.

thing that I had trouble with was there's no character development for, what's his name? Ben Rogers? Ben Rogers. Our friend. Ben Richards. Ben Richards. Sorry, of course. Ben Richards. By the way, there's zero character development. I mean, he has... We can just call him male Katniss Everdeen if you want. He's not, because this is what I'll say about Katniss. She knows where her

what her insecurities are and she knows what her limitations are and she fights through it. Yes, and she of course also has to choose between Peeta and Gale. She's got a lot going on. I would argue, I would argue. Peeta all the way, wow. I don't agree. I don't agree with you about the Hunger Games thing except for the romance because I do believe that Ben and Amber, that, I mean, that was fiery. This is a movie. That sounds like The Bachelorette. Ben and Amber.

If I have to watch another woman fall in love with her captor, I'm going to blow my fucking brain down. I swear to God, this movie is like rip culture. This is an insane film. Something's going to snap her neck. He's constantly holding her by the nape of her neck. Even at the end when they're together, he walks out with his hand around her neck. It's crazy.

Yeah, yeah. Insane. But she has snuck proof of his innocence into the game via her vagina. So that is consent, question mark? She's already fucked his tape. She's already fucked the raw footage. Let me ask you this. He escapes prison. He shows up at what he thinks is his brother's apartment. By the way, in the most suspenseful...

suspicious costume of all time. He's walking around the city in a yellow hard hat, a gold gym t-shirt. That hard hat looks like it was plucked off a bobble head. It looks so small. Well, he's just so big. Are you really saying that hard hat is like an actual hard hat? Yes. Wow! It looks miniature on his head. It is perched atop his head like a jaunty cap.

That's insane. That was his costume to blend in with people. He is the most, like he, what every outfit he's wearing in this movie is the most unblendable. Yes, yes. At the airport. Yes, that's the other one. He is impossible. The fact is, I mean, he's such an idiot. If you manage to escape the prison camp, just go to ground. Yeah, hide. Hide.

Don't try and like, don't walk outside. Don't try and fly anywhere. Just like go underground because you are the most noticeable person in the world. You would think that every eye would be looking out for this giant man with a German accent. Like he would be easy to spot. It's not like he doesn't try and put on a voice. He doesn't dye his hair. Maybe he was trying to put on a voice. Yeah, maybe. True. But what if you have a flair for fashion and that's a part of...

Like who you are. Yep. Right? And so you want to be seen in a flamboyant Hawaiian shirt. Sure.

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Oh, by the way, speaking of outfits, I wanted to direct a question to the both of you, Klu Up and June. You guys, I know, are both like to work out and you've done a, you know, from, you know,

kickboxing to Pilates. Do you wear an outfit? Yeah, that's us. Go on, go on. Do you wear outfits like Maria Conchita Alonso in this where she's just working out in a slip when she's working out like on like a Chuck Norris gym? Like a Bowflex or like some, no, no, like a, what was that called? The gym. Total gym? Total gym, something like that, yeah. Yeah,

I do have a athletic teddy that I... Oh my God. A sports negligee. Yes, it wicks my sweat. But here's what's so interesting about that choice. We need to start selling sports negligees. They could have put her in like a sexy workout outfit. Easily. Which there are plenty of in this movie. There's a million aerobic scenes in this movie. Although I have to say, what I was reminded of watching this movie is there's a very unflattering cut

High cut. High cut. Yes. And I've forgotten about that. Oh, never forget. It's so 80s. It's so high. It's absurdly high. Yeah. But it doesn't look good. It doesn't. Well, it reminds me. Miley brought it back. It's imperfect. Yeah. It was all over perfect. Remember the Jamie Lee Curtis? That's right. Yes. It is. I don't understand why. It doesn't look good.

It doesn't look good on a body. It's basically like it cuts so high that it provides – it's basically like the legs up into the hips are revealed. Right. And it's – these women are beautiful. They have beautiful figures. I'm listening. And it's amazing to see a –

revealing cut looks so terrible on a beautiful figure. It's just something to see. I feel like, though, this is how men feel about high-waisted jeans.

On women? Yes. I feel like high-waisted jeans on women, I don't – I cannot crack. And women are like – It looks great, and I'm going to tell you why. I've had this conversation many times. Please. The difference is high-waisted jean actually cuts at the waistline. At the waist. Yes, I get it. So you can see a woman's hips, which are like the curves that you would want to see. Unless you're some fucking weirdo. Listen –

Listen, this is what I like in a woman. Ooh, lustrous hair. Yeah, yeah. These big old boobs. You know what I want to see? Gross hips. Take your hips. I don't want to wear the sun. I think the highway scene is a great look. Get a hippodectomy. I think it's a great look. I think it's not for everyone, but this cut, this bikini cut is just. It's wild. It's all over this movie. And it's nude tights underneath. Yeah. Which is also strange. Yeah. The beauty of the times. Yeah.

Those dancers choreographed by Paula Abdul. Yeah, Paula Abdul getting in there, showing off some stuff. By the way, I would argue the only Arnold Schwarzenegger action movie to have a three-minute dance sequence in it. Oh. Yeah. And also my favorite, my absolute favorite part of this movie is the modern dance tribute to the fallen... Yes. To the fallen combatants. I actually have...

I have the eulogy just to say. It is. They basically, when Schwarzenegger has killed

Almost all of the people who've come in to try and kill him. Sub-Zero, Chainsaw. Yes, exactly. Burning Man, whatever his name is. Flame Guy. Flame Guy. Dynamo. All of them. He's killed all of them. They then cut to on the TV show that Richard Dawson is hosting a like Twyla Tharp-esque modern dance tribute to the fallen combatant. Oh, and this is what plays under it. Here we go. Sub-Zero. Fireball.

And Bud Saw. Say their names with reverent pride. They punished crime and served the law. As patriots, they died. It's awesome. This to me was one of my favorite parts. When these stalkers, is what they're called, get killed, the genuine disappointment of the fans is...

It's so kind of great to watch. They're crushed. They're emotionally drained by the... But the fans who are both a studio audience and also you see that everybody in the world is watching it, much like Hunger Games. Yeah.

They're so wrapped and so wrapped up in... Richard Dawson keeps going to members of the audience because it's also a game show, sort of? Well, it's a live event. He's giving out Running Man the board game to people. How would you play Running Man the board game? I want Running Man the board game.

Because there's no purpose just to get through. I wonder if they made it. I wonder if they actually made Running Man the board game. Well, we had that amazing fan who made a face-off board game for us. Oh, that actually works. It's amazing. It was really... That's the part of it that I loved, which is Richard Dawson, so charismatic, so wonderful, and he just keeps going to the audience and he's kissing the old ladies and he's...

And everybody's so excited. And what they're excited for is murder. Yeah. What they're excited for is who's going to die next. And they keep cutting to the people betting. They keep cutting to... And I have to say, those audience members, I mean, were amazing. Yeah. Every old woman who was interviewed for board games, I mean, one was better than the next. It was like they were just...

I'm telling you, they were so good. I loved it. I loved it. I loved them. And I thought it was, I think I also, I might have read this short story, too. The Richard Bachman. Yeah, I think so. It's not even Stephen King. Well, the ending of, we could talk about it at the end, but there's the ending of the Richard Bachman book, which is very different than the ending of this movie. But yes, it was based on a Stephen King short that I guess has some similarities, but this kind of, I

I think really watered it down. And according to Schwarzenegger, took out the themes. Oh, is that right? Yes. Got to get rid of those themes. Yeah. Well, Schwarzenegger wanted the themes. Oh, yeah. He and he was very upset with the director on this movie, which he's spoken out numerous times because he the TV, the director is Starsky from Starsky and Hutch. And he felt like it was directed very much like a TV show and it didn't capture the grandiosity. I'm sure he appreciates being referred to as Starsky from Starsky and Hutch. I'm sorry.

He's a very successful TV director. But I do find that there is something oddly interesting

small about this movie even the future doesn't like no it was nothing nothing seemed when they were going down that tunnel I was like okay we're about to see some shit yeah I wonder where we'll arrive and there was just nothing dark escape from LA escape from LA did a better job of building like a like to me this was a combination of escape from LA and hunky games

And that's what exactly what it was, you know, because Escape from L.A. had that kind of dystopian catastrophic events have happened because that's what's happened here as well. But yet when there was a big earthquake and thing, it's fine. It like it looks like there's parts of L.A. that were parts, parts. But then there's parts where the game is played, which is like where the earthquake happened and shit went bad and got it. And that quadrant. Yes, exactly. One of the quadrants.

Is that what happened? There was an earthquake? Well, there's a lot of text at the top of the movie. Again, I would argue that sometimes...

When you watch these movies, the text is coming in so fast at the top that you don't really have time to kind of... I love the font. Oh, the font. This movie for me was pure nostalgia. It hit me exactly right. So much so that when the TriStar logo came up at the beginning, I got excited. Oh, I love that TriStar logo. That is like, I miss that logo. This is what it says. 2017, the world economy has collapsed. Food, natural resources...

and oil are in short supply. A police state divided into paramilitary zones rules with an iron hand. And then television is controlled by the state, and a sadistic game show called The Running Man has become the most popular program in history. All art, music, and communications are censored. No dissent is tolerated. And yet a small resistance movement has managed to survive the underground. When high-tech gladiators are not enough to suppress the people's yearning for freedom, check it out.

More direct methods become necessary. Oh. The resistance that shows up twice. Yeah. I know. Where were they? And led by Mick Fleetwood from Fleetwood Mac. Wasn't that amazing? And Dweezil Zappel. And Dweezil Zappel. Why didn't Arnold initially join the resistance? Because he's a military man.

So, but who cares? But if he really believes in... I don't think he believes in that yet. I think in the beginning of the movie, Arnold Schwarzenegger is like a good soldier. He's fighting in the military, blah, blah, blah. But when he's told to kill innocents... Yeah, just follow his orders until he's told to kill innocents. And then he's like, I won't do that. Then they arrest him, send him to prison camp. He escapes prison camp and then finds Mick Fleetwood in the resistance. And the resistance is like, we don't trust you either because we think you're one of the...

Right. Because he doesn't even do any attempt to say, I was framed. Yes. He never says it. He never says it. He's just like, I'm getting out of here. I'm going to go see my brother. And where is his brother? Which, by the way, his brother never materializes. Yeah, I think the brother maybe has been killed, right? I thought for sure the brother was going to be one of the stalkers at the end. Oh. That never happened. They can't find anyone to be realistically Schwarzenegger's brother unless it was Danny DeVito. Then it would have been amazing. I would have believed they could have cast that.

What if Danny DeVito was that guy in the light suit, Kablamo or whatever his name was? Dynamo. Dynamo. Dynamo. That character is absolutely magic. I didn't like him. He is like. Operatic racist. I did not like standing in those undies. He's so big and is covered in like Christmas lights. Yes. With a clear acrylic mohawk. And he sings opera and shoots electricity. What?

And he drives a Mario Kart around. He's the only character that, like, he feels like an SNL character. He's like, I think we went too big on that one. I think we should pull that one back in. Because here's the thing. I'm 100% on board for big guy with a chainsaw. I'm 100% on board with big guy with a flamethrower. So those are very practical. Hockey stick with a knife? Sure, sure. What about a modern guy in a hockey stick? Sub-Zero. Sub-Zero.

That whole thing, like the quadrant of the ice rink. And I can't believe there was no female stalker. There is no? There was no female network stalker. June, this is a reboot that I feel like. Lady Running Man. By the way, just want to. Also known as Hungry Games. Also Lady Bloodsport was there too. So this is a real trend. Can I just talk about,

Lady Bloodsport, we realized, is an actual movie. Is a real thing, yes. Okay, good. Sub-Zero, just so you know, was played by Professor Toru Tanaka. Tanaka. He is a professor. When I saw the credits roll up, I was like, professor? What?

he is a wrestler that went by Professor Tanaka. Okay, so he's not an accredited, okay. Yeah, and he's actually not even Japanese, but at the time, like, wrestling, they're like, people get Japanese, that's a hotter thing than being almost full-blooded Hawaiian. Okay. Yeah. Oh.

So I got thrown by that because I'm like, okay, here. And then they said that when they introduced Sub-Zero, they're like, yeah, he slices the contestants like sushi. Sushi, yeah. So I didn't understand, like, okay, I'm not. Why is he playing hockey now? And then it was hockey. Yeah. And then.

What's happening? So wait, but you sound confused by this. Why? He shoots the nerdy guy into a net that closes up like an insect, like a clam. And then... And that's it. Pretty easy to get out of. He has exploding hockey pucks, kind of like what Don Rickles used to use at his shows. What?

But I also couldn't figure out, like, if you get trapped in the net, doesn't it make you harder to kill with the hockey stick? Well, I think then he would just, like, poke at you. That doesn't seem very exciting. You know, like, I feel like that whole... I would like to go in that net if he was coming after me. That seems like a refuge. But at that point, your bait...

Can I just like, like to me, I would even use him as I would argue, has anyone even gotten past the first round? This is the most popular show on TV. It seems to me like they're, these people are, they're champions. So subzero people love subzero. So if they love subzero, that means that no one's gotten past him because he's a alive. And so how could you, how could you like, I wonder if you can, they're being killed. I wonder if you can, um, get past, um,

Oh, like American Gladiator. Like you beat a boss, but you don't kill him. You know what I mean? Like if you can escape Sub-Zero, that means you get to the next level. That might be right, but it seemed like they were only asking the contestants to bring out a new stalker when one was killed. Right, but they also said no stalker has ever been killed.

Richard Dawson says that. But that those two guys won, I guess that was the rule. And then they were women runners, right? No. I thought there was two women on the side of that. Oh, it was just they were like people they were having sex with in Hawaii? Yeah, yeah, as winners. Yeah, as winners. I think the idea was that they ran through Fort Worth. You know they didn't really go to Hawaii, right?

Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm just saying, but as an audience member, they think that they went to Hawaii. Yes, yes, yes. By the way, great job on Maria Conjito Alonso identifying burnt corpses? No, via dog tags. Oh, okay. All right, all right. She looked at their dog tags. Which I was like, it took me a while to understand who they were. When she said their names, I didn't know what those names referred to. Yeah, and I was like, oh. I was like, who cares? Were the guys in the helicopter with Ernie? I don't. This doesn't add up. She also, my favorite, one of my favorite scenes that I rewound and watched again is

When she and the computer nerd guy go running into the tunnels in search of computer nerd stuff. Yeah. She, his name is wise. She says his name.

Seven times in six sentences. Every sentence she says, Wise, where are we going? Wise, we gotta get out of here. What are you doing, Wise? It is so... It's such a weird verbal tick. By the way, though, we haven't even talked about the scene between her and her co-worker. Oh, yeah. When Arnold walks by. Oh, my God. That was...

unbelievable. Yes. She, I mean. They're getting a soda. All right, let's set the scene. And she works in the TV studio? Because she composed the jingle. She's a musician. So she's like, I'm going to come see the person who kidnapped me die. Right. And by the way, a skill, like she offers no skill to this movie. Like there's no skill set that she draws. I mean, I thought maybe she was going to sing a song or. Well, she pointed out her, that's my synthesizer set up.

I'm going to write this.

What if she played music like Soothe the Savage Beast, you know, like at one point? Like that's how she like, Sub-Zero's like, oh, sleepy. Well, her whole thing is she has to like memorize numbers. And I was like, maybe she's going to turn it into a song so she can remember it or something. Nope. Nope. This composer has full access into the backstage of the game show. So she's headed back there and a co-worker comes up to her as Arnold is walking by and

And tells her that he might have killed her and might have raped her and says it about a million times that he was almost going to rape her and could have raped her. And does it scared and turned on? Yes. And she does it in different orders. Yes. She says, he could have raped you and killed you. Oh.

Or killed you and then raped you. A guy like that. But saying it like sexy, like the idea of being raped after you were killed is kind of also hot. Yeah. And that was like, oh, let's go into her. And then she looks at Arnold and he looks no different from when she saw him when he was, you know, tying her up in her apartment. Yeah.

And just, I guess, decides that he's innocent. Yeah, because he didn't kill, rape me. Right, he didn't do it. Just making the fact that he did not kill me, then rape me. No, no. He just threatened me to break my neck like a chicken. That's not right. There was some, no, that's actually not right. Because the reason she thinks that that's not right, there's something, something is shown about him that she knows to be a lie because she was there. I can't remember exactly what it is. That.

from the airport after the airport scene that he killed like a guard in cold blood but that never happened oh right yes and she knows it didn't happen that didn't happen so then she's like I have to go and she tells her friend I have to go and then she goes here's what she does know is that she tied her up yes in her

bedroom to an exercise machine. Yes. Which is thoughtful against her. Spread Eagle. He ties her up. Spread Eagle with her Teddy on. Yeah. Her athletic Teddy. Yeah. Teddy. Teddy, which we are in actually selling now in our own store. How did this get made store? You can get a, where does the butt start? She knows that that's true and that that happened and that he was pretty violent and abusive toward her.

It was truly, it was irresponsible. And Jason, I know it's one of your favorite movies. It is. It was horrible. Not only is it part of like, not only is it the best movie that's ever been made. I cannot even say it. For me, it's also like a very, it's how I learned about male-female relationships. Oh my God. I am still single. Here's the thing. Here's the problem I had with the Ath-Teddy is that

If she had been in like a very sexy workout outfit, she still would have been – you know, they clearly wanted this scene. And she still would have been like the classic victim, alone, vulnerable, in a sexy outfit. Sure. But they had to go even further than that and put her inexplicably in a teddy. Yeah.

It's hot. That's insane. Guys are going to go crazy. Again, athletic Teddy. Guys are going to go crazy when they see her in that sexy Teddy. This movie. Oh, you're not going to believe this. You'd think, wardrobe, you're showing me athletic here. No, no, no, no, no. She's at home working out. So that means she's wearing a Teddy or a negligee or something like see-through. We see her. She takes off her work outfit. She takes off her shoes. She takes off her shoes.

And then into that to work out. Into that. Yes. And then the first thing he does is smash his, like, puts his big old palm on her face. The only way I can wrap my mind around it is, like, she does seem like she's pretty rushed walking into that apartment. Like, do you think maybe she has a workout window that's, like, if it doesn't happen, if it doesn't work out.

Does it happen by 6.30? Like it's not going to happen? So maybe she didn't. So that's interesting. Maybe she didn't have time to put on workout clothes. She just took off the top layer and started working out. By the way, when you see Jesse Ventura's show on TV, you've got to make time to work out. By the way, Jesse Ventura is in this movie. Governor Jesse Ventura in a great role here. Clearly the success of Predator, him and Schwarzenegger are dynamic together. So let's bring him back. Wait, are,

all of them in Predator together? No, that's Carl Weathers. Carl Weathers. This is Jim Brown. But it is Jesse Ventura, right? Jesse Ventura, yeah. Okay, okay, okay. And Richard Dawson did play the Predator, but that's the only two connections. But he, what do you want to call it? Captain Freedom. Captain Freedom. I want to play his workout thing because it's so, it's kind of perfect. Here we go. This is what she's working out to. Are you ready for pain?

Are you ready for suffering? If the answer is yes, then you're ready for Captain Freedom's workout. Yes, it's America's own Captain Freedom. Ten-time national champion. The greatest stalker to ever play the game. All right, now all you runners, ready, get set, go! So she was running home to watch his show. But by the way, has he been hearing that? Ten-time national champion. Ten-time national champion.

Of what? Of Running Man, I think. Wait, so he competed in it? He was a stalker. Right, but how does... How can you be a champion of that? It's like saying Steve Harvey is the 10th time winner of Family Feud. He's the host of it. That's a good point. They didn't ask Arnie to become a stalker, so maybe...

all those people were contestants before they became soppers. Maybe they had all been running men. Oh, who kind of... And he kept going through it, maybe? I don't think so, only because... Oh, maybe. But he's Captain America. But I don't think anybody's ever won running man.

Right, that's the big thing. But Schwarzenegger wouldn't have won either, though, because they would have taken him out mid-game. Here's what I would guess. So it's a side thing. But no stalkers have been killed. I would guess that they are trading on people knowing him as a wrestler. And my presumption would be there's some sort of wrestling analog in this world. Like he's like a gladiator. Because even when he fights at the end, it's in a wrestling ring. Right. Right.

You know what I mean? There's something interesting. I mean, by the way, I just say watch this movie for no other reason than putting him in a tight blue jacket, making him stare at TV screens that we never see. And memorize tons of dialogue. Oh, God.

Wait, maybe he killed 10 people and that accounts for you being a champion. That may be right. I buy that. Maybe. That doesn't seem like very many to be a champion. The show's on every night. No, I don't think so because I think it's like a sweeps week kind of thing because it's like The Bachelor. There's a season of it even though it's one night because they're like, we've got to find somebody. It seemed like

They were trying to find their next great running man. Is there another show called Fear Lake? I wrote down a couple of shows. There was a show called Hate Boat and a show called Confession. And then the show that I really loved was the... And then there's Running Man in Paradise. Climbing for Dollars. Climbing for Dollars. Where the dogs are just...

wild dogs are like nipping at your heels. I thought that, I want to see what hate boat is. Hate boat? I missed hate boat completely. There was just a poster for hate boat. Oh, okay. From the background. Hate boat, I love that. What could hate boat been? Like you put a bunch of people who are going to just fight? Like it's like an analog of the love boat? I mean...

Oh, I bet it was. I bet that was what the joke was. By the way, just to get back to the puns. Oh, please. Can we talk about the worst pun in, I'm going to play it for you, the worst pun ever, I think, in punning. Hey, Killian, here is Sub-Zero. Now, Plane Zero. Oh.

What? Here is Sub-Zero, now Plain Zero. And I don't think Arnie knows what he's saying. No. Like, there's no connection to the words. He's not, like, even underlining. It's almost like he's learned them phonetically. You know, like, it's nonsense. That makes no... Here is Sub-Zero, now Plain Zero. No, now he's just a zero. Yeah.

But then that should have been the thing then. Yeah. Here's Sub-Zero. Now he's just a zero. By the way, I think that they have been the line and like what they got was Plane Arrow. We can't correct them. We got one take on this and that's it. That's what we're going to use. Because Plane Zero makes it like here's Sub-Zero. Now he's just a zero. At least there's... Yeah.

I don't know. I think that's the intention of it, but it's clunky at best. It's real clunky. Plane zero. And then, you know, like everything is a kill point. I would like you to do the next mini episode in a Schwarzenegger voice the entire time. It's very good. Every day, our world gets a little more connected.

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If the new chicken Big Mac at McDonald's looks like a Big Mac, has sweet buns and sauce like a Big Mac, but has two chicken patties, then it's not not a Big Mac. I'm participating in McDonald's for a limited time. There's so much to continue to talk about. I want to... Mike, oh yeah. Yeah, go ahead. I had another... We've had a couple of these...

Richard, what's Richard Dawson's first name? Damon. Damon. Because it's a lot like demon. Get it? They have another. That's the themes that we're kind of hitting. Themes, themes. They've got one of these scenes where the phone is ringing and his assistant picks it up, doesn't say hello, listens for a half a second, hands it to him and goes, Damon, it's for you. It's the attorney general. Ha ha ha!

She doesn't say hello. Uh-huh. Okay. Well, he's right here. She doesn't say anything. She picks it up.

And hands it to him. Damon, it's for you. It's the Attorney General. I was like, why did they let this happen? Just nobody does that. Just say hello. Okay. Damon, it's for you. It's the Attorney General. Nobody picks up a phone and is passively silent. Nobody picks up a phone and only listens. What if someone was calling and just heard the line pick up and just said, it's the Attorney General? Then she could just say,

Damon, it's for you. Right. But how often do you call and when you hear the phone pick up, just start talking? You get no recognition from the other side. It's the attorney general. Nobody says hello. Nobody said, can I help? Nobody said Damon's line. Nobody says anything. You just hear click and you're like, I'm going to start talking now. I guess I'm hoping somebody's there. I hope I got the right person because we're going for it. You know what I thought was so kind of interesting? I don't know if you guys got this too, but

Richard Dawson obviously is the biggest TV star and when he goes to work on a normal day there's fans out there this is just an office day for him and they're cheering him on and it's like you think oh I like this guy so much then he goes inside

And this mop guy just kind of subtly bumps into him. And he's, like, real nice to him. And then the minute he gets away, he's like, kill that guy. Yeah. And I was like, oh. He's, like, that was a really good sign for me to be like, oh, he's a bad guy. Yeah. Like, I didn't get it. I was like, that was, like, cool. He's, like, subtle. Like, that's, like, kind of, like, layering cool stuff to be like, what? That's not exactly what you think. Yeah, no. He's, like, he's Irish.

I will say he's a great villain. He's a great villain and it is a very good like villainous satire of TV executives in the TV industry, guys. I don't know. Here we are in Hollywood, California. This movie is so different. Is it so different? I'm going to spot Jason on a soapbox. Finally, a movie that tells it like it is. We are listening.

- We're living in the running man world! - The running man is now! We are the running man, Hungie Games! - It's happening people! You're in it. I'll throw out some people to you. Who would have been a better running man? Because these are the people that were considered. Don Johnson.

Great. Dolph Lundgren. Awesome. Dolph Lundgren would have been, that's an equal. I would have liked Dolph Lundgren in the movie with Arnold. Oh, yeah. I would have liked Dolph Lundgren as his brother. Well, like right now, like if they remade this movie, you would have like an all, it would be like three people. Yeah. Christopher Reeve.

Interesting. And Patrick Swayze. That would have been cool. And I feel like the Christopher Reeve. That would have been great. Patrick Swayze all the way. Swayze all the way. Guys, did you hear me say Swayze all the way? That was really good. I just didn't want it to get lost. Swayze all the way. By the way, but that makes me feel like Don Johnson, Christopher Reeve, and Patrick Swayze make me go, that's an interesting movie to me because they are guys that are not, even though Patrick Swayze does all the Kung Fu and Roadhouse, you're not

Like Schwarzenegger, it's like, yeah, he's a fucking monster. He's an unstoppable machine. He's the Terminator. He's the Terminator. But seeing Patrick Swayze, you would feel like, oh, will he make it? He's a normal guy. Will he do it? Here's the thing. I'm going to ask a question about Arnold. I don't know because I feel like I've seen a couple movies with him now. And I'm looking at him and is the appeal just that he's big?

Because I don't see any skill behind it. Interesting.

Well, no. I saw him. No, no, you're right. I see him picking up cars, but obviously he's not really doing that. It is brute strength. It is brute strength. He does not have combat skills. He does not have... There's no fight scenes. At the time, it was like Chuck Norris did all the karate kind of stuff, and then Stallone and Schwarzenegger just basically killed people with guns. And then the new breed was Seagal in that time. Yes, that's true too. But Stallone...

own thought though I mean yeah oh in Rocky that's true yes that's a skill but like yeah it's like because Schwarzenegger was just a bodybuilder like he literally lumbers on when he's looking for Maria Conchita Alonzo like there's you know because obviously it's a podcast you can't see it wait this is a podcast well I mean the cameras are here for other things but the like he what other things

He lumbers. Yeah. No, yet. There's a great scene where Maria Conchita Alonso is trapped by flamethrower guy in a room and Schwarzenegger comes from the rafters, reaches down from above in the rafters, and I'm like, how did he get himself up there? Yeah, it's like a- There's no way he's able to get his weight down.

Up into the rafters. And he shows no, like he's no cat-like skill. He's not nimble at all. By the way, for a running man, like seeing him run, he looks, like you said, lumbering. He looks slow. Yes. There's nothing about him other than his size

that I... Well, it was funny. And doesn't he run just once in the airport away from them? No, he also runs... He runs from prison. Yeah, and he also runs in the game. That jumpsuit is also not doing him any favors. It's not doing anyone any favors. No, the yellow spandex is not a fan. Yeah, it's not great. But he's also... There's a button when he's trying to run and jump and dive away from Chainsaw Motorcycle. Oh, that's right.

There's a bunch of clumsy movement there as well. Well, there's a... I mean, again, to go to the directing of it, there's moments where, like, when they're breaking out of the prison, they keep on cutting to these guards shooting. Yeah. And it looks like, oh, are they above? It's like, no, no, they're just... They're also around. Yeah. They're not shooting our main character. Like, it's weird. Like, a lot of the action is shot or...

Or given to us in a way where you're like, oh, I guess I'm facing... The geography is very confusing all the time. This is the fourth... By the way, I really just want to reiterate, this movie would be immeasurably better with Patrick Swayze. Oh. I would love to have seen this movie. It would have been great. Well, because you would see some humanity to it. Yeah. And I think... And some desperation, whereas you never doubt that Schwarzenegger is going to save the day. No. And the first scene is lifting a man up by his balls, twisting it...

And he has no sympathy even when he's in like with the resistance. Like, guys, look, I'm innocent. Like, I did this thing. It's also interesting to have a movie where they don't even attempt to give him a family member. I mean, I guess his brother. But any sort of connection. Well, in the book. He might be fighting for. It was his wife and child. Well, that's something. So that was like, why not keep that? But I think they wanted to keep the sexual flames alive with Maria Conchita Alonzo. Oh, we can't remember.

But there's no connection between them either. Of course, I know. Four directors brought onto this movie, right? Yeah.

The first one was the director of Rambo Part 2. But they fired him because he wanted to put the entire movie in a shopping mall. Like he thought The Running Man should take place in a shopping mall. Interesting. That's very 80s. That is very 80s. And then the final guy before they went to this director, the final guy was Andrew Davis who made the Chuck Norris movie Code of Silence. He –

Like, the movie went into production, and within the first eight days of filming, he went $8 million over budget. How? $8 million in the first eight days. Was any of that used? Yes. I'm sure. Like, I mean, it was just. What? Yeah. I mean, what? Like, I mean. Jumpsuits. And this is a movie that was budgeted at $27 million. Wow. So that's not, that's a lot.

Holy shit. That explains why some of it... A lot of bloody teddies. That does explain why a lot of it looks like shit. Yeah. Because they were probably over. And then the other thing, I mean, even the final fight between...

I'm blanking on his name right now, the wrestler. Jesse Ventura. Jesse Ventura and him. Captain Freedom. Captain Freedom. They're in a ring with bright lights. It's all to distract you. Nothing to it. It's like they're in the nowhere place from Get Out. It's like there's nothing there. It's dark. Jesse insists that he wouldn't get killed. Yeah. And then he's just gone after he kills the fake stunt people.

And they put Jesse in like some sort of plastic like gladiator outfit. I'm not going to wear this. Which I liked. I felt like that was like a little bit of like a nod to like how ridiculous the whole endeavor was. But I also loved that they kept coming. Every time Schwarzenegger would kill a stalker, you would cut into the backstage at the –

at the place and they'd be like Captain Freedom report to wardrobe Captain Freedom report to wardrobe like it was just like I liked that cutting between like these crazy action sequences and like just TV production studio for a murder show laughing

Just thinking about the show, too, the credits roll during one part of the thing, and so these are the credits. Thank you to Tim, George, Gary, Paul, Rob, Keith, you, me, us, and them. Then the next title is What Next?

I don't know. Then titles are attributed to Type M Wrong, Makeup, Paint Your Face, Props, Property, Locations, Buy Too Long Here, Art Director, Red G Blue, and Primary Colors, and music by Do Ray Me.

Wow. That was the little Easter egg for all the people watching at home. Did anybody else notice that when Arnold was fighting, what was his name, Chainsaw or Buzzsaw? Buzzsaw. Buzzsaw, that there were a gazillion reaction shots of Arnold walking

watching the chainsaw and staring at it and trying to figure it out as though he had just never seen one. When Buzz saw, cuts the piece of wood he tries to fight him with, Arnold stares at that wood that's been broken into pieces.

For a long, long time. As if to say, wasn't this longer? A mere second ago, that guy walked by. This was longer. What's up? He's gone and this has been split in half. Yeah, what's up? How did these things happen? This is reminding me of that kill. So Arnie takes the guy's balls, takes the bus off, splits it around. Oh, I didn't watch it. I didn't watch it. And he kills him. But when the man is split,

in that way, he, as he dies, he sings at a soprano? Yeah. That's what happens? Yeah. With testicles. Right, but with the chainsaw splitting it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You go, ah!

And go down? Yep. Oh, that's exactly what would happen. By the way, isn't that other guy, I keep on forgetting his name. Dynamo. Dynamo. Sorry. Thank you, Gula. Dynamo. Isn't the electricity plugged into his dick, too? Because then she unplugged the electricity from his dick. She says he has a battery up his ass? Yeah. Here's the thing. Dynamo.

Dynamo and... He's an electric man. He doesn't even know anymore. Dynamo and flamethrower guy. Everybody has such obvious vulnerabilities. Yes, yes. You know what I mean? Throw water on him.

Like literally throw water on Dynamo and he electrocutes. That's it. Like he's not, he's actually, he's not that good a competitor because there is true weakness built into his suit. And that's. No, but his voice though. Beautiful. The voice of an angel. I do want to play this death scene from Yafakoto, which I think is like a great, this is a, and then we can get into second. I'm going to wear a bullet with you.

Buzzsaw took care of my traveling arrangements. The Underground has a broadcast center in Quadrant 4. Take her. Take her on the call. To Mick. Don't let us die for nothing. Listen, we're counting on you. Don't let us down. We want to be the only asshole in heaven.

By the way, that's almost like four. It drags on so long. Longer than expected. There's a bunch of repetition as well. Yeah. Like you want him to die after each one of them. It was like, we'll get four alts on this. We'll use it. We'll pick it and edit it. And he's like, they just used all the alts. And did not deserve, like he doesn't deserve that death line of, I don't want to be the only asshole in heaven. We don't know who you are.

You are. Who are you? Who are you? You're wrong. You're wrong. And by the way, at this point, he still thinks that Schwarzenegger massacred all those people. Yeah. Like there's no. There's no other way. Like he has no other like. Oh, I see. But no, but. If I make him an asshole, I get it. But no, but Schwarzenegger would be going to hell. He killed. Like there's like, he should maybe be going to heaven, but he doesn't know anything about Schwarzenegger. Yeah. I thought it was. I still thought it was great. And then, and then when Richard Dawson dies, he's.

It's like someone just gave up. Like, so they have this confrontation. Richard Dawson's like, I do it for TV. People love TV. And then he throws him in the tunnel vehicle and dies.

Instead of like, oh, that's going to be cool. They're going to throw him into the middle of downtown LA and the crowds are going to kill him, like rip him apart. Nope. He flies out at such a speed that he flies through his own billboard and then explodes. Yeah. Did he do something to make it propel more? I thought that too. I don't know. When they were going down that tunnel, it looked like they were going so fast. And then they just sort of stopped at a net and pushed back a tiny bit. Like a Home Depot net.

Yeah, like a little hockey net. And there was like mirrors in that tunnel, which was weird. Like the mirrors that you put when your driveway is in a position where you can't see the street. So you need to like reference the mirror to see what's coming around. I was like, why would you ever need mirrors in this tunnel system? It's just bullets being shot down there. Tunnels were big in the 80s too. Like Goonies had a tunnel. Empire Strikes Back had tunnels. Like people want to go down tunnels. Oh, everybody was super into tunnels. It's also very sexual imagery. Yeah.

They're being birthed. They're being birthed into the game. Obviously, we had opinions about this movie. There were people out there that had a different opinion. It is now time for Second Opinions. Hey, Paul, Jason, and June.

It's been a real pleasure just to have us all together, and I know I'm gonna hear from you soon for another HTTM, but until then, let's see what other people know of, how other people feel about what other people research, what other people think of this movie. It's time for a second opinion. I've got a second opinion, so you know we couldn't make these up. How about them second opinions?

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This movie is made for guys. Back when you could make movies for guys. Five stars. Oh, brother. Yeah. You know what? Thank God. Because guys need movies. Yeah, guys aren't getting movies anymore. They're getting these Hungry Games. They're getting, you know. I would like to see Arnold Schwarzenegger in Hunger Games. Like, just same dialogue. Same everything.

Is he like a hill that they have to go over? This is by Joseph D. Maroon. He writes, if I could rate this movie a 10 out of 5, but Amazon won't allow it. One of the best movies ever, and it's not even close. The title is amazing. Five stars. Now we get into two of my favorites here. This is by Whiskey Cat.

Whiskey Cat writes, Arnold's best and Conchita Alonso makes it even better. She's not only a real babe, but she must have been a pretty tough cookie to survive making this film. This is the future and it scares me. Five stars.

and Concealer Alonzo team up together. That's the title of it. But does he think... Do you think he thinks the movie really happened? Yeah, like that she's a tough cookie to... No, I think there's just such lore around Arnold's behavior toward real-life women. Yeah. So she just survived. She survived the endeavor of...

And this is by D Master. When this movie came out, I was a little boy in the USSR and cable bootleg movies were shown on TV and badly dubbed. I remember seeing this movie and I thought it was great. When I came to the States, I saw it on TV in English and it wasn't some bootleg copy and it was even better. Now when I see this movie 20 years later, it's still as good as it was. In all reality...

I think this is one of Schwarzenegger's best flicks of all time. Five stars. Really cool if you haven't seen it. Now, I will say that I read it the way that he intended it, but the spelling mistake is pretty great because he goes, and in reality, this is one of Schwarzenegger's best dicks of all time. I knew that he meant flicks. But those are some five-star opinions.

Anything else? Anyone want to talk about the theme song that plays at the end of the movie? I have the lyrics right in front of me. Sing that song. So this is what she wrote. This is what Maria Alonzo wrote. No, no. This is simply just the movie. The John Parr movie. As they come together, we hear the song. And there is a lyric that says, no pain, no gain.

It's so good. It's so good. I'll play a little bit. Okay, hold up. Let me find it. I need to find the lyric. Start from the beginning. All right, here we go. Start from the beginning. Here we go. This is going to be great. I love it. Here we go. Standing in the dark, I swear I heard you calling my name. And I know things have changed.

Oh, yeah. Here it comes. Oh, God. Nice.

Is this about this movie? This is amazing and you are

Fucking amazing. That is legendary. That was the best performance we've ever had on the show. That is the greatest thing that's ever happened. It worked out great. The music really, like it was perfect. I really felt it. You really were in it. You really nailed it. I really did feel it cool out. I felt like his big poem was around my neck. I know.

I know I put this at the beginning of the show that I would tell you how the book ends. I'll just tell you quickly how the book ends. So Richard, Schwarzenegger's character, hijacks an airplane and takes Richard Dawson hostage. And Richard Dawson says, if you let me go, you'll become the lead hunter of the game. And Schwarzenegger says, yeah, I'll do it.

And so now the whole reason why he was playing the game in the book is because they captured his wife and child. And they said, if you win the game, you'll get your wife and child back. And then Richard goes, all right, you're the lead hunter. And by the way, we did kill your wife and child before you even started the game. And then Schwarzenegger goes crazy. He overpowers the flight crew, kills Richard Dawson, is mortally wounded in the process, and then –

Maria Conchito Alonzo, she jumps out of the plane and then crashes the plane into the games building in New York City, killing everyone inside of it. Oh, Jesus Christ. That is the ending of the book. Ends himself? Yes. Well, he's already mortally wounded. So yeah, so that's the dark ending of The Running Man. Holy cow.

Yeah, that's a pretty downer ending. Wow. Well, he didn't get those themes, but he got those cigars. The cigars, not in the movie. Now, cool up. Your brilliant show on CISO, The Jillian Dollar Properties, is coming back very soon. As you listen to this, I would imagine you'd be able to watch it. Yes.

We'd definitely be able to watch the first two seasons. Yeah, seasons one, you'd see Mr. Paul Scheer in episode 107. Oh my gosh. Season two's available. Season three out June 1st. You've seen Jason in those two, right? That's right. Jason is in season one. He's also in season three. Miss June Diane Raphael is also in season three. All the stars are shining in bajillion dollar properties. Give it a quick, just for people who don't know what it is, give a quick pitch of it. Or if you prefer, act out a scene.

Here we go. This is the game. Much like Reno 911 was a spoof of Cops, Bajillion Dollar Properties is a spoof on home improvement shows like Million Dollar Listing, Property Brothers, everything you'd see on HGTV. It's so funny. The cast is amazing. Paul F. is in the show, super funny in the show. Tim Baltz. Tim Baltz, Ryan Galt.

Drew Tarver. Tony Newsome. Mandel Mon. Dana Dute. It is really, really a great show. Definitely watch this show. It's on CISO. And we're always giving out free promo codes for CISO. So be on the lookout for that. Join for free for seven days. Watch all three seasons. Get out of there if you want to. I don't care. I'm not your mom. And, okay, that actually is a big thing that I'm glad you spoke to. You are not our mom. No. Right? I know sometimes

I play like that and I know that's not right. Okay. Just because, you know, it's kind of fun though. When you tuck me into bed at night, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be saying. Well, you're supposed to just be inside that burrito. And you can listen to your podcast, Who Charted,

on the Erolf network, but you can just type it. I mean, that's easy. Just find who charted. If you haven't heard it, just download it. It's free. You don't even have to have your sales pitch on it. It's good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like it. You like it. You like it a lot. Uh, we can follow you on Instagram at I am cool up. Yes. And on Twitter, just a cool up. Yeah. At cool up. I love it all. Couldn't get that handle for Instagram. No, it was gone. Who is cool up on Instagram? You know, nobody to me. Um,

Jason Manzoukas, what do you want to talk about? I'm in a movie called The House that will come out at the end of June. So get ready to get your tickets early. So grab those ticks. Get them going. And I'll give a shout out to a good friend of ours. Doug Moe has written a book called Man vs. Child. It's a pretty funny book about being a dad. So check it out. He's a good dude. June? June.

I will plug the third season of Grace and Frankie, which is on Netflix right now. And I'm just going to give an additional plug to Bajillion Dollar Listing, which I'm also in. Wow, there you go. I will back that up as well because I'm also in it. Well, I'm going to lead. When is my episode in the order of things? I think you are actually, I think it's season, episode 304.

I believe. All right. Yeah. Well, while she's looking that up, I'll tell you, I want to plug this show. I don't know if you've heard about it. It's on CISO. It's called The Jillian Dollar Properties. Yes. Really funny show in the vein of Reno 911, but for like those house hunter shows that you like on there. Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Also, you can check out Veep. I'm on there for, I think, a couple more episodes. Oh, you know what? I forgot to ask you guys. Would you recommend this movie? Jason? I would. It's fun. 80s, like shorty nonsense. Yes.

Coolop. If you're an Arnie completionist, you got to do it. June. I'm not an Arnie completionist, so I'd say no. I would say it's not in my top favorite Arnies. I'm going to go with you, Arnie completionist only. And if you want to leave a message about anything, your life, your problems, or this movie, you can give us a call at 619-Paul-Ask, that's P-A-U-L-A-S-K, 619-Paul-Ask, and we will –

We will talk to you about a lot of different things. I'll talk to you on the mini episode. And now, without any further ado, here's a five-minute We Didn't Start the Fire tribute to How Did This Get Made, which is amazing. We just could never play a six-minute theme song to the show. ♪

Anaconda, Tri-Van Gris, Sucker Punch and Deep Blue Sea Gods of Egypt all about Steve Demolition Man Cool as ice, barbed wire, Fast Five and Streets of Fire Love Guru and Xanadu and Batman and Robin How the fuck did this get made?

That movie Temptation was Harry's worst creation Double team rhinestone, no holds barred in abduction Tiptoes, Mortal Kombat and the Devil's Advocate Over the top, Truss Pack, Dundee and Los Angeles Spider-Man 3, Superman 3, Green Lantern and Back How the fuck did this get made? It was really shitty, could've used more titty How the fuck did this get made?

Sharknado the second one has got Jimmy on the run. Sleepaway Camp Dreamcatcher, Masters of the Universe. Mr. Nanny, Mac and Me, Toys and Daredevil. Life Force, Monkey Shines, Con Air and on the line. Face Off, Spice World, W to a Kill. Top Dog Jr., Stealth and the Last Airbender. Solar Babies, Wicker Man, Howard the Duck, Backup Plan. Bloodsport, The Quest, Technohalls and Wild Wild West. Vampire Kiss, The Tourist,

Percules in New York How the fuck did this get made? After Earth and Crocked Out both should've gotten beat down How the fuck did this get made? Jingle all the way, force me to run away Godzilla, Catwoman, Lake Placid and Safe Haven Avengers, Super Mario, Crossroads, Staying Alive, Maximum Overdrive Triple Noisy Apple, Star Wars Holiday Special

Uh-oh, color of night, Theodore X, fast and furious, six-speed, two-cruise control, and the first Sharknado, Zardoz, LOL, simply irresistible, Sharknado, oh hell and God, no! How the fuck did this get made? Movies like Jaws 4 really just made me snore. How the fuck did this get made? The leprechaun in the hood, I thought.

Hudson Hawk, Cobra, Island of Dr. Murrah, The Smurfs, Gooby, Odd Life of Timothy Green, Vampire Academy, Justin to Kelly, Roadhouse Teen Witch, also Season of the Witch, Skyline, The Room, Breaking Dawn, Parts 1 and 2, Birdman, Mick, Liz and Dick, Mannequin 2 on the Moon! How the fuck did this get made? Finish that movie from heaven, Paul and Furious 7!

How the fuck did this get made? Nothing but trouble and reindeer games, both incredibly lame. The Phantom Tango and Cash Adventures of Pluto Nash, Judge Dred G. Lee, and I know who killed me. Perfect Cousin Winter's Tale, Sexy Ernest goes to jail. Battlefield Earth Burlap, Cranked to high voltage. Covenant Death Spot, Jack Frost and Jim Cata, Street Fighter and Gamer.

How the fuck did this get made?

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