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EXTRA: Why Quitting Is Usually Worth It

2024/8/26
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以《怪诞经济学》系列著名的美国作家、记者和广播电视人物。
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Stephen Dubner: 适度放弃是有益的,它能避免浪费时间和精力,保持身心健康。从失败中学习,并将其视为实验的一部分,有助于以积极的态度面对挑战。积极心理学提供了一种更好的方式来处理恐惧和失败,但关键在于认真反思和处理这些经历。消极思维也并非一无是处,它可以帮助人们预演最坏的情况,从而更好地应对挑战。他认为,积极思维和消极思维各有其价值,关键在于如何处理这些思维方式。犹太教中“修复世界”的概念对他有很强的吸引力。他认为成年人应该持续学习,并从学习中获得成就感。失败是成就的一部分,即使没有达到目标,尝试本身也具有价值。他认为从成功中很难吸取教训。决定坚持还是放弃,需要考虑两个因素:能否取得成功,以及是否仍然对这件事感兴趣。如果无法尝试新鲜事物,可以在现有工作中寻找新的兴奋点。他不认同将竞争视为必须不择手段取胜的态度。他认为,那些默默努力、不断尝试和失败的人才是值得学习的榜样。 David Duchovny: 及时放弃成功的项目,能避免其占据你整个人生,并能让你有时间和精力去探索其他领域。即使放弃会带来痛苦,但也要认识到放弃有时是必要的,并从中吸取教训。他从小就对失败有着深刻的感受,这与他的家庭宗教背景有关。“原罪”的概念让他感到不安,因为它暗示着人生伊始就背负着失败的烙印。充分的准备能避免失败,并能从失败中吸取教训。他区分了公开失败和私下失败,认为公开失败更能带来羞耻感和动力。他将私下失败视为轻微的过失,而公开失败则会带来更大的羞耻感。他认为,只有经历痛苦才能真正学习和成长。放弃成功的事业会带来痛苦,因为它意味着与许多人断绝联系。

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Stephen Dubner discusses his decision to quit his PhD program at Yale and his transition into acting. He also talks about his experience quitting his successful band and the lessons he learned from these experiences. He emphasizes the importance of asking questions and viewing failure as a learning opportunity.
  • Dubner quit his PhD program at Yale to pursue acting.
  • He also quit a successful band after meeting Bruce Springsteen.
  • Dubner views quitting as a form of learning and growth.

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Stephen Dubner appears as a guest on Fail Better, a new podcast hosted by David Duchovny. The two of them trade stories about failure, and ponder the lessons that success could never teach.