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Chip Wars in a Trump 2.0 World

2024/12/13
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Why is the location of chip manufacturing important?

The location matters for supply chain security and data security. Chips are essential for all electronic devices, and a disruption in Taiwan or Korea could freeze global supply chains. Additionally, chips can be used for espionage or sabotage, making their origin a political concern.

Which countries are leading in chip manufacturing, and how do they specialize?

Taiwan leads in processor chips for smartphones and AI, while Korea dominates in memory chips. Japan, the US, and Europe also play significant roles in specific chip types. China is the largest buyer of chips but is working to catch up in manufacturing.

How far behind is China in chip manufacturing compared to Taiwan?

China's leading chip maker, SMIC, is about five to six years behind Taiwan's TSMC. This gap translates to being three doublings (or eight times) behind in computing power due to Moore's Law.

What impact have U.S. export controls had on China's chip industry?

U.S. restrictions aim to limit China's access to advanced AI chips, which are critical for training large AI models. While there are loopholes, the controls have forced China to rely on smuggled chips and slowed its progress in catching up to the U.S. and Taiwan.

How might component tariffs on Chinese chips work, and what are the challenges?

Component tariffs would impose duties based on the percentage of Chinese chips in a final product, regardless of where it's assembled. The challenge is the complexity of global supply chains, as many chips are assembled in countries like Malaysia or Vietnam before reaching the U.S.

How critical are alliances like those with Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan in the chip war?

Alliances are crucial for collective action and leveraging deals. The U.S. relies on these partners for advanced chip manufacturing and tools. However, the Trump administration may take a more assertive approach to ensure allies meet their commitments.

What role does energy play in the future of AI development?

AI requires vast amounts of energy for data centers, and the U.S. is wary of relying on Middle Eastern countries for energy supply. The Trump administration is pushing for increased domestic energy production to meet AI demands, particularly through fossil fuels in the short term.

How has the CHIPS Act impacted domestic chip production in the U.S.?

The CHIPS Act has spurred significant investment, with TSMC building a facility in Arizona and Global Foundries expanding in New York and Vermont. However, challenges remain, such as Intel's recent leadership changes due to financial struggles.

How is China preparing for a second Trump term in terms of chip production?

China is focusing on domesticating its tech supply chain and building self-sufficiency where possible. It is also preparing retaliatory measures, such as restricting exports of critical minerals and limiting U.S. firms' access to the Chinese market.

What is the significance of the AI race turning into a cloud race?

The cloud race matters because AI systems are largely hosted on cloud platforms like AWS, Microsoft, and Google. U.S. cloud firms dominate globally, giving the U.S. leverage in controlling access to AI capabilities, especially for countries like China.

Shownotes Transcript

Inside a nontraditional war: the chip wars. Can Trump’s tariffs stop China’s efforts to catch up on semiconductor production? How will the AI boom change the game? The leading expert on semiconductor competition, Chris Miller, joins FP Live to discuss the state of the tech race and the impact of a second Trump administration. 

Suggested reading (FP links are paywall-free):

Rishi Iyengar: Everyone Wants a Chip Factory)

Chris Miller: Biden Opens Sneaky New Front in Trade War Against China)

Vivek Chilukuri: America Needs Clear Standards for China Tech Decoupling)

Chris Miller in the Financial Times: The global chip war could turn into a cloud war)

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