The Chris Farley Tribute Episode (Part 1)
02:27:49 Share

Yes, I have actually stayed at Airbnbs from time to time. And truth be told, I do really like them. I'm being totally honest right now that I've had great experiences with them. Yeah. I mean, you can have your look at you go get your own place, get your own pool, your own living room. You're not going to walk in an elevator. You're not going to see people when you're walking around in your undergarments. Yeah.

Yes. And if you don't understand what we're talking about, you should go online. What we're saying is you have a house with a kitchen and a bathroom and it's just for you, tailored for you. You liked your Airbnb over a hotel. Yes. And I do think I've had relatives stay nearby and sometimes it's very nice for them to do an Airbnb and have a little house and they're not underfoot. The last thing you want is your house guest to say, excuse me, um,

Where would I find a towel? That's a toughie when it's- Because they're naked? Well, it's like the 1800th time you say, on the towel rack. Yeah. Thank you. Oh, I was going to look there. People don't even think hotels sometimes just go, hey, I'll go there, I'll get an Airbnb. So you won't regret it. Dana, we have a special episode today. This is a reflection on a hilarious and very interesting- Celebration as well. Yeah, celebration. Mm-hmm.

Chris Farley, two-parter. Chris Farley, obviously one of the naturally funniest person you could ever meet in your life. And we got a lot of his friends together and family together. And we had talks about him. And it goes to a lot of different places. We told everyone, you know, let's share some lighthearted stories. Anything you can think about him, anyone you want to say. And we had a lot of people call and say, can we?

Can we be a part of it? And it was 90% lighthearted, but now and then you can't help it. If you're talking about someone that, you know, really affected everyone's life that is on the podcast, that's going to be chiming in, you realize you can't help but get choked up at times. It's just the way it is. It was 25 years ago this month. And that is baffling to me that it was, that is that long. And then doesn't a day go by where you don't think about them and

So we tried to do this respectfully. We had some fun because Chris was fun. And like David said, we do have people talk to his addiction and how he died. And so we just hope you really like it. Yeah, there's a few heavy moments and we got, you know, it just kind of goes up and down. You know, that's just what happens when you talk about someone. And I think this is a...

Good Dana for younger listeners or SNL people. There's a lot of people I know that don't even know Chris Farley. I see people that go, oh, you know Led Zeppelin? And they're like, I know his face if I saw him. I know the name. I can picture him. And I'm like, well, that's actually a band. You don't know Pink Floyd? They're like, dude, I don't even know Pink. All right. I'm like, ooh, you are young. So it's just a way that Chris Farley is someone we just think you know and you might not. And if you've heard about him,

this is a great place to just hear the thoughts of everyone who's very tight with him. And then you'll hear about sketches you might want to look up or movies. And I think it's a good opportunity for everyone just to talk out loud. If you know him, you get to kind of revisit. I feel like I know Chris better just after doing these interviews, just hearing from all the different people who knew him and worked with him. So here you go. This is Adam Sandler. Obviously you know Adam and

all on SNL together at the same time. He knew Chris in and out. Chris loved him. We had so many laughs together. And here's his thoughts. How's your act right now? Did you have to do all new from your special? I did about...

All the standup is ain't on the special. And then I do the things I do from the special. I do the Farley tune. Yeah. And then I do grow old with you. And I think that maybe one other song, I don't fucking remember, but I like the electric Farley. I just, I hadn't really just objectively watched you play electric guitar in a while.

So that really made me laugh. A comedian, quote unquote, is then shredding, is shredding. You know, it's like that. So you did the electric on the tour, right? With Chris Farley. Yeah. That's the baby. Yeah. It's a fun part getting the whale all the way on a guitar, but then all of a sudden finding yourself way off key and people going, you're making it worse. And just faking it and just like grind it. You don't know where you are on the fretboard. Right.

Dude, remember when we played dogs? I got to shred a lead on that. That's right. While you were playing drums. When me, you, Farley, Mike Myers, everybody was doing funny shit now. Yeah, yeah. And I was on the drum, kicking it down, laying it down. You guys would wander off. I'm going to go, fuck these guys, man. I'm just doing boom, boom. Come back to me, you kept saying. Come back to me. Goddamn. What was dogs? A sketch? What?

Well, Dogs was like, we did like a Seattle band. Yeah. It's like Little Dogs. Yeah. What do you mean? I don't remember. It was a fucking smash. It never ends. Dude, you want to hear one that my fucking laugh of the day? I'll tell you a sketch of mine that killed motherfuckers. Was the Brady Bunch versus Partridge Family.

I saw it on Instagram or Twitter the other day. I watched the whole thing. I go, this is hysterical. Everyone's in it. Who were you? I'm guessing Dana was Keith Partridge. I was David Cassidy, Keith Partridge. And Spade was buried in the fucking drum set as like one of the baby fucking Partridges. And then I kept sticking my head like when Dana was talking, I'd find the camera on the side like this. Hello. I'm still in this. You are? Yeah.

That's funny, man. If you ever listen, accidentally you listen to the 70s on XM radio and they play a Partridge family tune. They're all incredible. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They got the harmonies are perfect. They're irresistible pop. It's so good. You know, I had one line in that sketch, Adam, and I say it and they don't even give me a courtesy close up. I watch my phone. I go, what the fuck?

They didn't even cut to me. You just hear me in the back. Oh, Hey man, we got to get this next tune out. And I'm like, that was me. Dude. Barley was Ruben Kincaid. Blocking that David and Lauren was screaming. Stay wide. Stay wide. Stay wide.

Farley was Ruben Kincaid and he was just nodding like, yeah, this is a good sound. There's too much ham in one space. We've got to stay wide. Too many showboaters looking for the lens. By the way, Dana, when Sandler... I have to say, to start off this Farley stuff, Adam's...

Farley song. I'm glad you kept it in because it's so good. There's more pictures in it. Audience is totally like, you could never not do that. So gut punch. They don't even know what's coming. It's funny and it's sad. And then it's everyone just like stops in their tracks and goes, Oh my God. It goes, you know, they're laughing the whole night and they get hit with that thing. And then everyone walks away going, that's the best thing in the world. And maybe it's indelicate to say, but it's actually, it's a very nice tune.

And it's a great song. It's like a really sweet, the chord changes and the melody. It just has a good, good. It's very Neil Young. Very Neil Young. Yeah. A lot of G's and A minors. Exactly. G, E, minor, D. No freaking, uh, uh, uh,

They just love seeing Farley up on the screen. I mean, the press goes bonkers every time you say his name. It's so nice. And can you guys, when you see it, even though you've done it a lot, I mean, every night I assume there's just a little bit of a lump in your throat or it just gets emotional. You can't never get away from that feeling, right, with the pictures of Chris? You're right. You're right. Well, when we first would do it three years ago –

Whenever we'd be on the road back when we first started playing Farley's tune, I would get watered up and shake your voice almost every night. Now that I've already done it and I like the crowd...

I knows it's coming and stuff. It's not, I don't have that same, like I'm going to cry right now, but when they cheer for him, it makes you cry. That's when you tear up. You go, ah, so fucking great, man, that they still go like that. Or what he meant to their life. And, uh, the, the visuals up there when they see Farley and see all the insanity. And I literally, uh,

I'd probably say maybe 10 good references of what he did, maybe 15. And then you go, well, there's actually about fucking 100 more. And he was only on the show for what, four or five years? Yeah. I do believe he's got the best. And I said it to Chris Rock a minute ago, the best, best of tape, just for sheer popularity.

You know, and it was I don't know the time because I left in 93 and, you know, he'd done the Patrick Swayze one. But then, you know, Van Down by the River and others, there just was an explosiveness and a sweetness. It's just a one off, Chris, you know. Wow. The whole world was pulling for every movie made.

Yeah, he was ridiculous. You know, boys, we're supposed to come up with like one story to tell about Chris, right? That's great if you have one. I don't know what to say because I got a lot of them I wouldn't say because they're fucking bananas. But it's funny. Hurley, he just told me a funny one because I said, what am I going to talk about with Farley? I've already said everything. And he goes, I remember one time

It's not really like a great Farley story, but he goes, I remember one time it was like the show was right about to start and I was running somewhere and I go, what are you running to? And Hurley, he goes, oh, I'm going to find Farley. I go, oh yeah, what are you going to tell Farley? He goes, oh, I was going to tell him to take it down a little bit in this one part of the skit. And I go,

And he's in her. He goes, and you put your arm around me and you said, don't do that. Why? Why not? I'm just when he goes.

He said, I go for your own safety. Don't tell Farley. Cause then he's going to go five times. Five times bigger. And then he's also going to fucking hate you. He's going to kill you and anyone around you. Yeah. Yeah. Shit. I remember that by the way, that Farley song, Adam, I went in the dressing room every night.

All five shows. I remember. Oh yeah. You didn't want to cry or you didn't want to? Well, it just gets me off guard. Even one line from it. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know which one, but any of them. So I, I think. I say that I miss watching you fuck with Spade. There's a lot of them where I, once I just hear the beginning, it's such a cool guitar beginning. I go, Oh no, that's it. And then I go in the back just almost by, uh,

Yeah. Reflex. I just go, I'm just going to go back here because I don't want to get into it. And I don't, and I am, I'm still a little immune to it. Like you are, like you're saying, but it just, it just, you can't help. Plus the song is so like hauntingly well done that all of it. And I don't see the pictures for sure, but I know you got one in there of norm now, which is cool. Yes. Oh man. Dana at the very end, I say, I wish I,

You were still here. And I say, and you, me, and Norm were getting on a plane to go shoot Grown Ups 3, right? But we have this shot.

It's from Billy Madison, and it's Chris and Norm sitting next to each other eating sandwiches on the side of a bus, and Farley's just laughing his balls off being a nut as the bus driver, and Norm looks like he's smiling along with him. But I think we're talking Norm always loved Farley beyond anything. Oh, yeah.

God, man, he would always just phrase shit so nice about how great Farley was. How about when fucking Farley would be doing a skit

In some shit part of 8-H where you're not supposed to, like the bad part, they don't hear you as good and visually. Under the bleachers. Under the bleachers, whatever. And you'd hear his fucking voice blasting out and destroying. Nothing could stop him. Such a good voice. And we were talking about with that voice when he would play Distress.

I did a sketch once with Chris and it was such a good sport. I don't know who wrote it, but he's like a fan of Ross Perot. And I'm like, yeah, I'm the greatest. I don't care. You know, he's like, so he won my autograph or something. At some point, Ross Perot says something like, well, I'm your king. I'm whatever. And so Chris got on all fours and I was riding him. And then he's doing his farther. And I'm going, go piggy boy, go.

Oh, piggy boy, and I'm spanking his ass. And he's so committed. He just blew the roof off with just being under distress. I cannot mimic his energy or that power of that gear he had, man. Fucking crazy. You know, Adam, I think you would understand this. When people just in the last year or so asked me, when he did that Chippendale sketch, how could you let that happen?

because of he was took his shirt off and stuff and they go that's so rude that you would make fun they go why didn't you stop that i go first of all you think i'm gonna stop a guy from doing a sketch that's gonna blow through the roof like i'm gonna go and i'm a i'm a feature player he was a cast member it was very new it was his fourth show and it didn't even how about also didn't cross my mind all i thought was this sketch is gonna fucking crunch and yeah yeah yeah yeah it did but i'm like that's not my place i'm supposed to go like

yeah oh this is gonna ultimately hurt you and break your heart and yeah you never thought like that you just because he was he was so comfortable with taking the shirt off and everything else off yeah and taking all his clothes off and fucking being uh loose and he he yeah yeah looking back at it i'm uh you go oh shit he was in a lot of pain and that was the way he was dealing with it maybe i don't fucking know but uh

There wasn't one part of you that you'd be like, oh, I don't know, Chris. Yeah, exactly. I don't know if that's going to make you feel good. I don't think at that point that Chris was much heavier than a lot of guys in the audience. Really? Truly, truly. I mean, he was heavy, but he was so fucking athletic in that sketch. Yeah, yeah. He was moving and he was just an athlete.

We were at Mohawk one time for a weekend. Mohawk, we talked. Our retreat. Our retreat, the best. He was the funniest part of that always. But we were playing football. He fucking grabbed me one time. We weren't playing tackle, but he grabbed me and pretended he was going to tackle me. And every fucking vertebrae popped in my body. I was just like, good God. He grabbed me so hard and squeezed me.

And yeah, he was a brawler. Remember when Jay Moore kept saying, I could out-wrestle you, Farley? Oh, yeah. I would not get involved in this. And then Jay Moore, they were by the elevators on 17 on a writing night, of course, when everyone's doing anything but write. And then Jay Moore and Farley's getting so mad because he goes, I could take you. And then I think Jay Moore goes at his legs and trips him down.

and pins him like right away because he wasn't ready and then he crawled on the elevator and it shut and Farley started screaming and Jay's like I pinned you and he went bananas because he got pinned and I was like oh my god get away from Farley because he's going to kill the next person he sees whoever walks down the hall he grabs the board just snaps Marcy in half and then

I remember he told me a story one time. I don't know the exact thing, but I was in Madison one time with him. And then he just talked about this story. He goes, I said, hey, we were talking about fighting or something. He got in some fights. And he pointed to the spot where we were walking. He goes, well, me and the boys did a number of some fella right there one time. I said, oh, really? What happened? He goes, oh.

Ooh, let's see. I think that fella said something bad about my sister. Couldn't have any of that. Something like that. I like the idea of having boys. Me and the boys decided I want to have some boys.

We gave a whoopin'. We didn't take kindly to that kind of interaction with our younger sibling, you understand. And it was a shallow grave. We did not dig it too deep because we actually wanted the police to find him and interview us and our boy because we know how to tell fibs in the South. I'm just going to do that character for the rest of this. I like that. I don't.

You have to understand. You got to understand. Now, Adam Sandler is what you call a superstar. There are stars and then the superstars. And megastars, now that's Beyonce and these other kinds of people. They do stadiums on multiple nights, so Billie Eilish and what have you. But Adam Sandler is a bona fide superstar. But a megastar is another level. He's on the cusp. I've never been against him. Never been against him. He's been working towards it.

He's graduating from Sheds and he's going to be doing stadiums in Berlin next time you look at that boy. Yeah, he loved Adam, man. Loved Adam. He was like in awe. The guitar. Actually, one of the best things he did was Lunch Lady Land. Oh, my God. That was amazing. He was the lunch lady. Yes. You know what's funny, boys? We did a video for MTV together first.

We did a video. Oh, for Lunch Lady Land? Yeah, Lunch Lady Land. He played the lunch lady in the video.

it's somewhere and uh we did like a cool like a neat looking uh uh video that kind of was like in the style of a pearl jam or something like that back back in the day we took like like the lunch lady video very serious and farley was doing the funniest shit and that i think he came by for i think it was a one day video shoot and he was a madman and then uh

And then he did it on the show when kicked ass. That was the best thing about being in a skit with Farley. You just felt safe. And you're like, well, he'll fucking kill. Yeah. Yeah. You know,

let's let, whatever. This thing's going to be just fine. He'll, he'll destroy it. And I'll fucking ride the wave with him. It was like being in the perfect wave. He would set up a nice, whatever the fuck it was. He set this great pick for you. You'd be able to throw a layup in and go like, Hey, I scored. But meanwhile, he did all the work, you know, and he would love to unprofessionally try to make you laugh or anyone laugh. Oh,

In the middle of the sketch. When he gets close to your head and he crosses his eyes or something. Because he goes, Davey, I can cross my eyes, but the camera only sees one eye. And so I can cross them and they'll never see it. And I'm like, God, what are you planning? Because he thought the ultimate victory is if you laughed, you know. He's always telling you the magical power. But he almost broke you in Pepper Boy. He had one line. Well, thank you, Pepper Boy. It was a 10-minute sketch. We were out there. Bro.

Yeah, he played it. He went big on that. I wish he told him to take it down on that one. He did this other one. What the fuck else did he... Oh, we used to do that corn skit, Zaggots. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He dressed like an old woman and I was an old man and stuff and he would always...

He'd always grab my knee in the middle of his lines or try to shake me and fucking I couldn't help but laugh. I just I laughed every time I was with him. I laughed during Billy Madison.

So much when he was the bus driver, we had like the light was going down. We had a few few minutes to shoot a scene and he was out of his mind staring at me in the face and whatever he was doing. And the camera was on the left side. I just kept making my head stare way off to the right because I couldn't ruin the take. But I was laughing the whole time. Oh, when he I told you on the tour, when he goes.

that Veronica Von he like stops you with his hand and then you're kind of looking away smiling because I go were you gonna laugh because he's going it's one piece of ace one piece of ace from experience dude oh yeah and he's like yeah and and does that for half hour

Oh, yeah, when he was turning dark red on the bus and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's hard not to. Every story about him, you're smiling. He was ferocious. But even his bad moods, looking back at him, you laugh your ass off with how viciously bad of a mood he would get. And even he would laugh at it. I remember I'd come in, and you too, David. You guys fucking had me.

more than anybody. But I would call him on a bad mood. I'd be like, what happened? Are you all right? You know, like you called him out on it and then he could just break into an uncontrollable laughing fit me. I'm like, yeah, you're right. Yeah, I was being a little pissy there. Oh my God. One time he left me the most violent voicemail and it was terrifying. And I went to work and he goes,

David, did you get my joke voice? I go, what? What? Joke voice? He's so psychotic. And he goes, David, don't tell Lauren. I go, I'm not telling you. And I went right to the fucking police.

Dude, me and him used to do fucking prank phone calls together. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. In Bernie's voice, in Bernie's voice. And do it for like an hour at a time. In the office. Yeah, just sitting in our office, calling random hotels, setting up. We used to call like...

We used to call like hip places like... What the fuck was it? Columbus or those kind of cool places. Yeah, yeah. The Rainbow Room. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, just places that's hot would go to. And we would fucking, as Bernie, tell them to set up, we need to tape them tonight. You know? Yeah, we would say...

some superstars coming you know uh i need a table for madonna tonight for 25 and they'd be 25 at nine o'clock and it would be like oh geez that's right in the heat of everything that's a lot of i am if you want me to tell madonna you got it we didn't say

We didn't say that, sir. That's a lot of people. We need a table for city now. She likes green beans. Have them ready. And that's Bernie Brustein, the talent manager of all Hollywood, who was a big Santa Claus guy who would, if you had to knock heads together, was a huge person. That's a funny take on Bernie.

We are lucky enough to have Mrs. Farley on, Chris's mom and his oldest brother, Tom. And they're going to tell us a couple of things we might not have known about Chris.

Oh my gosh, here we go. Tom! What? Hey! Don't scare Mrs. Farley. Hey, David. Come on, mother. Hi, Mrs. Farley. How are you, David and Dana? You look very nice. Mrs. Farley, you look adorable. I want to meet your dermatologist. You look incredible. You wouldn't like him. He faded after he worked on me.

So what's up? You're the only ones that can do a split screen and I can't see either of you. But anyway, no, there you go. Don't hurt your neck. And I won't hurt mine. Mrs. Farley Dana is the only one that sends me a Christmas card every year. She's so sweet. Birthday.

Yep. It was either a Christmas card or a birthday, David. You had a 50-50 chance and you blew it. No, I was tricking her to see if she still got her wits about her and you knew it. No, I don't at all. But anyway, I wouldn't forget either one of you. You've got your marbles. I can tell just by looking at you. I'm going to start before I rev you guys up. Right. And you don't even have to rev up and really do anything. Okay.

Dana, you know, I always eat early and I always eat quickly when we go out. So we always tell the story about Mrs. Farley that we all went to dinner once and we were all piling into the sushi or whatever restaurant or the Ivy or something. And we're all sitting down and I go to the waitress, we'll get crab cakes and maybe a Caesar. And she goes, oh, we're ordering? I need a menu. I haven't even sat down yet.

I relate to that. So every time I start to order, someone goes, oh, we're ordering. We're ordering so soon. Because normally we'd sit for 15 minutes, talk, get the menus. But of course, I was rudely called out. And I was rudely ordering. And then she was very sweet.

To say, oh, I'll order. I just don't. I'm not seated or I don't have a menu also. But now you should know that David, now he calls the restaurant while he's driving there. I have done that. So the food is at the table when he arrives. Oh, David, that's. That's like that's like something Meghan Markle might do. When a man's got to eat, a man's got to eat. David Spade, ladies and gentlemen. Absolutely. Well, moms knows that when it's go time, when it's time to eat, you know, in our family, the food comes.

Listen, I patented a new product on Shark Tank. It's called the Yuck Bag. Oh, no. We know all about the Yuck Bag now. John told us. Oh, man. I want to ask Mrs. Farley, because you have five children and you're feeding them. What was your go-to meals that you would serve your family? Anything in the kitchen.

Can. Oh, in cans? We had five in our household as well. 1,500 square feet, five kids, four boys and a daughter. And yeah,

If my mom was busy and I had a friend come over, she would say, pancake batter in the fridge for dinner. Help yourself. Perfect. So we'd have pancakes for dinner sometimes. My mom was big on fish sticks. Oh, I like those too. Oh, yeah. I like those too. Well, the batter kind of...

I didn't quite go with the pancakes because I never left the stove. Mom was the casserole from a casserole era. Casserole, like macaroni and cheese casserole. Tuna casserole. We had the hamburger helper. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Well, it was gone before I even sat down. I have to get back up again. You're the skinny one because you're working and then you get the last...

Dibs in the food and there's no way there's any left. Was there a fire sale in our house? There was if we had sweet cereal like corn pops or sugar smacks or that.

My brother, Mark, we called him the human garbage disposal. He would pour the whole thing and would be a giant bowl you would do cake batter in and he would eat the whole thing. So there was a race for the sweets in our household. Well, you got to be fast if you're going to get. Absolutely. Absolutely. Dana, I didn't know you had one one sister and four brothers.

Yeah, three older brothers, a younger sister, and my dad was a high school teacher, my mom was a preschool teacher, and we were very barely middle class, but we had a lot of fun. But we had baked, we'd go to the bakery and get the day old, and sometimes the two day old, and put them in the freezer to eat, you know, so I'm sure you guys had... French toast tastes the same. Yeah. Yeah.

So you had a lot of, did you have a side of beef in a freezer in the, in the garage or something? No. One time, Tom, my husband, Tom, brought a side of beef home and there was no place to put it. I had a small freezer. Except the dinner table. Beef like crazy. No, we didn't have a big freezer.

Yeah. That was difficult. He just brought home a side of beef and handed you a machete and said, you figure it out. Go to it, mom. Go to it. Was he good at chores around the house?

Or lazy. Well, that was the problem. Dad would send us all the boys out. Like, go shovel the walk or rake the leaves. And it would end up with a huge fight. Because we were all coasting and slacking. Oh, lollygaggers and gold brickers. We did it. We had the same thing. We'd have to go out and we would balance the tools. Oh.

And then when he'd come out the front door, we'd just go like, we're raking. You did that too, Tom? Yes. We're at it, Dad. We're doing it. Four boys. Should have taken us 45 minutes. We were out there all afternoon long. Yeah.

Yeah. Just, just trimming, hoeing, lawn mowing, all of the above. Oh no, no lawn mowing. You didn't put it. That's a dangerous, that's heavy equipment. That's not, that wouldn't be bad. Dad was a little nervous about that power mower in the, in the hands of the boys. No, you couldn't do that one. Juggling, not bad, but. Uh, we were just telling the story that Chris told me once when you were typical story, driving around and, uh,

Dad was driving all of you and he goes, Mom, pull over. I'm hungry. I'm starving. And you go, Christopher, you just ate an hour ago. And dad would go, ha ha, good boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That always puzzled me because we'd have a late breakfast or something, 12 o'clock on the dot. Where's lunch? Where's lunch? And I said, you just ate. What are you talking about? But it says on my watch, it's 12 o'clock. I said, we're kind of...

You know, the mind says I've got to eat. It's 12. That's my mom. The cook says no. Yeah, the cook's got to take a rest.

So is there anything you guys remember you wanted to say about anything you thought of that was interesting story, funny story? It doesn't matter anything. You know, I had a funny, I had a question I was thinking because mom all week was like, what are they going to ask? What are they going to ask? I'm like, you know what? I've got a question. I have a question. Like for like 20 years, we were like used to Chris's, you know, all, you know, we were, you know, that was part of our life. We were totally used to it. I'm like, my question is like,

What was what was your first impression like like when this when this got delivered into your world? Yeah, this hurricane. Yeah, I met him at the Omni Hotel. We were I was a feature player writer and I had done four shows and I came back over the summer and Chris and Chris Rock were hired.

Uh, so that, that hotel, I was there. I remember that's where they put us up. Soup was like eight bucks and Rob Schneider kept ordering and I go, don't charge that to Lauren. We'll get fired immediately. So I saw, I'd heard about Chris. I heard his audition was funny. I heard he was good.

And I met him that first day. And I think we walked over together. And we just gravitated. He wasn't terrifying at first. Oh, that look, yeah. He's the most lovable, fun, happy Madison, Wisconsin guy. Midwestern. Yeah, he just went over. And I was in Arizona. We talked about that. And then we just sort of bonded. But he really took to everyone.

Everyone loved him right away. I think the funnier part is the people that went to college with him, and he was a little bit of a boozy Susie, if I may be so bold. And those people going, I'm sure if you took a poll, who will not make it in show business in this school? They would say, well, not him. He's not going to go anywhere. He's too crazy. And then he's the one that blows up the biggest. They must have been shocked.

Yeah, but he was just so... They always talk about they saw that he was definitely destined for something. He was different. Something. He's the only cast member I remember meeting Chris

and was really just charmed by him and he was making me laugh so i invited him home for dinner my wife and i had an apartment on 84th and broadway i said you've got to meet chris so she cooked a meal and we went over there and hung out with him and we just and and

For that evening, we just met charming, as you two are, Midwestern charming values and humility. So we just took a liking to Chris right away. And then as time went on, I noticed his explosive...

You know, the way he could go from zero to 100 and he had a rhythm with his voice. I think he knew exactly what he was doing comedically. Very, very smart about how to land jokes, how to move himself around.

And so, yeah, I was just charmed by him. Like I'm charmed right now. Did you ever tell the story before that Omni moment that you just described what happened before that? No. So I was working in New York. I worked at Paris-Turnsville. So I had an office on Park Avenue and Crystal rolls into town, staying just up the street. And we had lunch.

And he's about to go back to the hotel. And he goes, you know, I don't have any, you know, I don't have a paycheck yet. Can you, you know, lend me? He was just coming off of starvation at Second City. So I'm like, can I borrow some money? I'm like, okay. So I go to my, you know, ATM and, you know, the $300 I had in there. I'm like, all right, you can have, here's 150. I know you're good for it. He goes, dad said I should go to, you know, walk up 50%.

Fifth Avenue. Where's that? I'm like, just right up there. So he walks up and I get a call like a half hour, 45 minutes later. It's like, yeah, Tom, I, I, I'm going to need more money. I'm like, what do you mean? You're going to need more money. I'm like, I was just walking on Fifth Avenue. Like dad told me. And I saw these guys playing cards. I'm like, no,

Were there three of them? Yeah. And they were playing this game and everyone was winning. I'm like, yeah, okay. They're all together. Oh, no. And some guy points to me and goes, do you know where the card is? And Chris goes, yeah. And he goes, how much you got? And I go, what did you do? He goes, I put down $150. Like the whole nut, really? You just dumped it all? Yeah, and I lost it all. I'm like, okay, okay.

All right. Come back. I'll give you the other, I'll give you the under 150 in my account. And now walk up Madison this time. Oh man, that is definitely like green acre or just a fish out of water. He learned. Yeah. Sure. You know,

You're a Mrs. Farley. You were, you were such a good, solid person over there. I think he learned a lot and very polite to everyone. He was very sweet to everyone. And I got that from home and he had his things, but down deep, he was very good boy and everyone was really gravitated.

Yeah, well, he knew how to test me, that's for sure. I could see through that. Like five or six-year-old Chris? Run for the wooden spoon.

What would he do? Was he easily, would he like take a time out or? Oh, that was a vacation for him, a time out. Oh, sure. That wasn't anything. And then when I'd get these calls from Edgewood High School where he was, they said, Mrs. Farley, Christopher's been naughty on the bus again. I said, oh, that's a bit.

And what did he do? Well, they explained. And I said, oh, yes, he'll be not able to ride the bus for a week. And I said, who are you punishing here? Me? I had to drive half across town every day because of his...

Antics. Shenanigans. Shenanigans. I like how we keep it vague. He was doing some crazy things on the bus. On the bus. Right, right. But he got to end a Marquette University, right? Yes, he did. So he got his school to work together. Fair and square. He could do it if he wanted. If we want. Yeah, he could do it. He wasn't any dummy. He could work people. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, he didn't.

He would go up to the host and go, are you an AA? I am too. And I go, Chris, how many times do you have to find some common ground so you can go have dinner with Sharon Stone? He's like, I know. He just finds, I have problems. Do you? Oh, I know. Oh,

Oh, boy. Mom, you don't understand me. You really don't understand me. I said, yes, I do, Chris. Oh, yeah. His mother wasn't born yesterday, I guess. But we had good times, though. Good times. His youth was great.

It really was fun. Oh, totally. Yeah. It was a fun time. Usually big families, you guys would play games and run around. If it was a snowy day, I'm sure you would barrel with laughter at times. Oh, I'd turn the furniture upside down and put sheets all over it. Oh, yeah. We did all that. Yeah, the forts. The forts, yeah. Yeah.

And was there a movie like Tom, do you remember? Were there movies like we had Jason, the Argonauts and certain movies that would come on television. We'd all gather around a wizard of Oz. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Big. Yeah. So there was, he was scared easily. I think though. Yeah. But I was, he was, he, he, well, the wicked witch is, was one of the most terrifying characters. I think they watched it 10 times over, but I was the bedwater. Oh, we don't go. Oh,

I was a bed wetter too. My older brother, my parents got a machine in the catalog and they put a plastic sheet on. He was on the upper bunk and it had a little machine so then when his urine would hit the sheet. I had that. I know, but he wet the bed so hard he ruined the machine. He broke it the first. Well, he went so much. He would sleepwalk, open the refrigerator door and go pee.

So Tom, I went to bed too and sometimes I'd wake up, realize I wet it and then I would just get to the side of it and go back to sleep. Get a towel, put that down. I had a lot of strategies. It just meant we were deep sleepers. Oh, is that what it was? We cut off all liquids. No liquids after 6 o'clock and that didn't work. No.

Yeah, no, I might have had a new friend. He didn't wet the bed unless. In college. In college. For other reasons. Oh, in college, for other reasons. He became a bed wetter later. Yeah, some of us do it earlier. Later in life. Either way, there's a lot of bed wetting going on in the Farley family. I think sometimes it's just too tired to wake up. A lot of new mattresses. A lot of new mattresses in the Farley household. You know, Mama Farley, when we were, he lived at the Bromley. Dana, is that where you lived?

The Bromley? Yes, the Bromley. 84th. And Broadway. And I think Myers lived there too. And maybe Dennis. It was a very nice place. I live with main cast members in my building. Where do you live? What kind of shithole do you live in? He's always challenging. He's always fucking fighting me about something. But it's always just like for fun. But I go, I know. And he goes, you got to come check it out. So I go over there. And I notice there's no shower curtain. Oh.

So the bathroom soaking wet. And he goes, I go, I go, you don't have a shower curtain. He goes, who needs that? Are you a girl? I go, I mean, I, I get that. It's a hassle to go buy one. He goes, yeah. You want to go buy one for me? I go, no. And he goes, then there's no shower curtain. He goes, unless you buy it. I don't know what he's talking about. So he just has water everywhere. Bit of a slob. That's all. Just a titch.

Oh my God. But it was enough for like, cause that was so the opposite of me. I'm like, and we had to share a bedroom. I'm like, Oh, you're like the Felix and Austin. No, totally. And finally I just said, that's enough. Like that. Find another, like we had to like find like another room in the house. And he went behind the furnace. That was scary. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That was great. Grand. Wonderful. Needless guy in the world. No, no.

But Tom is. Tom is. So that must have been not good. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Yeah. We had all the boys downstairs. I always describe, I spent my whole life trying to live up to expectations, toe the line. And I look behind me, and this guy is not only just tripping and falling over the line, but making friends everywhere. And I'm like, I never got that. I didn't like...

He's failing upward. Every time he does something wrong, he gets more famous. And you're like, what's going on? I'm dressing right. I'm studying. I'm neat. And then he's just the opposite and have 10 times more friends. Everyone loves him. You know, he had that green coat, I think. And he'd go to church. He'd always go to church, though. He'd always get that tie on. I don't care if he's coming straight from the club. You're going to church. And he would just put the tie and tie. Everything was tight.

Pull it really tight. And he put an overcoat and a sweater and a tie. I go, God damn, how do you get so many layers you can't move? I like to feel hugged. And then he would go...

And then he'd go to church and come back. I mean, he did look sharp, though. He'd doll up. You taught him that. He would doll up for dinner. He's been layering. Yeah. The worst thing. I know. He looked like layered Hamilton. Yeah, he's the worst thing. He would always layer. Last year, when I sent you the Tommy Boy jacket, David. Yes. Like the worst thing I ever did. So I had Chris's Tommy Boy jacket, and it was sitting in storage. I'm like, you know what? This is...

it's just sitting in storage. This is David's movie too. So I like sent it out. Very sweet. Yes. My son Tommy to walk it over. But before I did that, I'm like, I was, it was the hanging in my, on my, on my door. I'm like,

huh? And I took it off, put it on. And I was like, damn it. It was like, it didn't fit. I'm like, and now I'm the, I'm the big guy in the little coat. That was about a typical. You know, what's funny. I told Dana that I said, you know, Chris, during Tommy boy, cause I have that jacket and I really appreciate it because it's up on the wall here in the podcast room. Uh, it's just like the coolest thing in the world to have the actual jacket from Tommy boy. And he, uh,

He was not that huge in Tommy Boy. I mean, I was pretty teensy or thinner. Big shoulders. Petite. Yeah. He had big shoulders, but even he couldn't fit. I mean, I think it was gaining more toward the end, like he gained more weight. But back then, he was sort of known as huge and fat or whatever. But he wasn't. He was just kind of bigger. And of course, the word agile we've heard on everyone we've interviewed. He's very athletic. Very. Yeah. You knew that. Yeah.

Yeah, he was. All you had to look was his arms were massive. It was just so much. It was like huge, muscular arms. He goes this. He goes like this. Mm-hmm. You like that? Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Did he lift weights or was it natural? I mean, when did he get all those muscles from? Was it from rugby or, you know? Yeah. He was born with big, big shoulders. Always lifting weights, too. Yeah. He was a big weightlifter. Wrestler? Oh, okay. Like that? We lifted weights a few times together at the Bromley. He came over and there was a weight room there. Yeah, you could bench a hell of a lot of weight. Really? Hey, lady. Yeah. Push-ups.

put two 50s on and he was just organically strong. Yeah. David was more, David and I are more miniature that way. I don't know if I love the word miniature. Well, I was 138 when I was made Wayne's World one. Whoa. I think I was 138 on SNL. Yeah. 135 club. Stop. Stop. Speed boys. What? Well, I'm almost as much as you. Oh, come on.

We're tiny people. No, you look tougher than me. You're fast. You can move on your feet. You can swing. With a wooden spoon in her hand, yeah. Oh, absolutely. Would you whack them with a wooden spoon? Oh, I went through more wooden spoons and it wasn't cooking.

Yeah. Was it out of the blue, Tom? And you just hear, whack, what'd I do? Or we just... No, we knew. No, look, we knew it was coming. Yeah. Yeah. I would run to the drawer and open the drawer and they go, what did you do? We didn't do it. Sorry, Tom. No, we did nothing. We did nothing. And I'd raise the spoon.

So you were the authoritarian in a way. I mean, you were not afraid to get those kids in line. No, I was not afraid. No. Yeah. No. Dad was just the voice. You know, he was a bird. He would send you like he would stop your blood from just by yelling. The voice. Right. He was very respectful of the dad. Oh, yes. He was very. Yeah. Chris was not. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, it was all new to us, all the SNL and the- Oh, it's the strangest U-turn. He had no idea. Yeah. Of that place. Yeah, it's such a strange, bizarre thing to happen to your son. Well- Be on TV all of a sudden, isn't it? I mean, or your brother. It's crazy. Yeah. My father, when I brought him out from, after my mother and brother died, I brought dad over here to Madison. Okay.

And that was in 95 or three, 93. And Chris had been on Saturday Night Live, I think, since 91, a couple of years. But nobody had showed the show to him in his nursing home in Boston. So we were out here and I said, Dad, Christopher's on television. I said, let's let's watch a rerun here. It was during the day.

And he looked and he kept looking at the screen. Is that is that Chris? I said, what's he doing up there? What's he doing up there? Well, he's on a show, dad, on television.

Chump. He's a chump. Chump? Yeah. Well, that's he said that all because Chris was always being Chris and my grandfather, my Boston Irish grandfather would always like, you're going to be a bum. Yeah. Quit doing that. You're going to be a chump. You got to get a job. You got to get an education. Chris would laugh. Yeah.

hysteric he loved it when poppy would go on a jump or jump yeah i think he said that when he would even have movies he would read and you know his dad your your husband tom was not in showbiz he's just a normal guy and he goes dad what do you think about this one he goes sounds like horse shit

Like he'd say, you're going to jump around like a clown in this one. He's like, yeah. Then he'd call Gervais and go, I don't think I want to do this one. He's like, what? You're already doing it. He goes, no, my dad didn't like it. I know. But that was a good one with Poppy. He couldn't understand that one.

Did he understand how, did he live long enough to understand how wealthy Chris became? Because that's a different thing when the Benjamins. They can't get that. Yeah. They can't believe you're getting paid for this stuff. That's what they can't believe. Yeah. Yeah.

Like they pay you to do this? We never mentioned it. That was always my thing. It was like I would see like these skits that I've been seeing him do like Chippendales. He's been doing that since grade school. Really? Dancing like that? Yeah, with a shirt off. Breaking out.

Like, you know, we that, you know, in college, we had a bar and the band would go, oh, we're going to take 15 minutes break. And they'd go and play music. And then we'd look back and Chris would be the only one on the dance floor doing this, you know, doing stuff. Not now. He's with Patrick Swayze. You know, kept his pants up. He kept his pants up. Yeah.

He did like taking his clothes off for some reason. Oh, I know. Would he take his diaper off as a toddler? Oh, he just always taking his clothes off. Yeah, yeah. I find those all over the house. Yep. So funny.

All right. Well, is there anything else you guys want to say? Can you call me Marianne? Okay. Not Mama Farley. I feel so old. I took David's cue, Mrs. Farley, but I wanted to call you Marianne. That's a boy. You too, David. Of course, Marianne. Well, you know, you're talking to a fellow cast member here. Oh, yeah. She was on Mother's Day special. What was the sketch that you did with Chris? Yeah.

Did you do a little dance or a little comedy? Did you have to do an introduction or something? Oh, that was, yeah. Yes, yes.

But I was always, when I was watching that from my side, I was like, you know, everyone was like, oh, Chris, you know, Sarah, then you see like mom and Chris and you see you like you would, it was so distinct, Rick, where that comfort on stage and like mom was just like here, you know, like came out from Madison, Wisconsin and like put her on stage and SNL and you're like, no, this is. I had butterflies. I,

Yeah. You got, plus you're very funny. Until the luncheon was Trump. That was that, that was a good one. Remember that? Was that what happened? Yeah. He was at our luncheon. Oh, how funny. I don't remember that. Donald Trump.

Yeah. I've got pictures upstairs of all your mothers, all the mothers around you. It's going to be huge. We're going to have crab cakes. Go ahead. We're going to do terrific. Let me tell you, Marianne, they don't make them like you anymore, and we're going to be coming there very soon. Exactly. Your wonderful Tom, a great older brother. I want to tell you that right now. Oh, you're perfect. Dana, you are perfect. Yeah. Thank you, Marianne. He went around to all the mothers, all

the mothers. Let me get your number just in case. Somebody asked him who his hairdresser was. That was good. Oh, good. He said it's a weed whacker. It's a secret. It's a secret. My mom, Dana, on that one, she, first of all, she loves Marianne, but my mom was so excited. I think she was sick the whole week because she goes, I wasn't going to let that stop me.

And she goes, she broke on hives on the way home. You know, they had to get an ambulance when she got home. She was covered in hives. She was so either nervous or excited. Anyway, from the mother's day special. Yeah. So they sat her next to me and they had to, yeah. Remember she got worse when she left. So she's such a trooper. Her joke was she sits with me and they go, she goes, I'm Davey Spades mom. And she's like,

I got divorced from his dad when he was four years old. And a lot of kids grow up thinking when their parents get divorced, it's their fault. In this case, it was his fault. That's a nice joke. Isn't that funny? That's a good joke. We had the best time. And I remember your darling mother too, Dana. Oh,

Oh, Billie Deen. Billie, yes. Yeah, she was such a sweet woman. She was a beautiful lady. You get along with everyone, though, I bet, Marianne. That was genius, bringing those ladies together. I don't know why they don't do it anymore. It was so smart. I was surprised for my...

Yeah, I was surprised when I first heard Mother's Day special because I thought we're Saturday Night Live. We're rebels and pirates. But then it ended up being one of the greatest segments on the show. So we all clicked. And stayed in touch ever since. Chris Rock's mom was there. I remember there was a lot of mom. Yep, yep. I remember one time when we were practicing.

We were all jammed in an elevator and we had to go up to the second floor for some reason and wait and then come back down and rush out of the elevator. Well, we had to do that over and over. And it was one o'clock in the morning. And the sixth time we were going up to the second floor again. And I said to the girls, it was my fault. I said, girls.

We're not getting back on that elevator. That elevator's going down without us. And it went down and the doors opened. No mothers. And they panicked. Where are the mothers? Where are the mothers? And we all laughed our heads off. We thought about it.

Greatest who? Enough is enough is enough, right? So you had a little bit of rebel in you as well. The apple didn't fall too far from the tree. No, she's hysterical about it. That's where it comes from, absolutely. Of course. Yeah, that's great. I was a saint. Now, come on. I went to the Sacred Heart Convent, and I was a child of Mary. I was a very sweet, wonderful girl.

That's the impression I'm getting. Thank you, Dana. I'm coming to Wisconsin. I'm going to book a date. David and I are going to come in there and we're just going to hang out with you. Good. What's the closest town with an airport that could take private jets? Oh,

Madison, my town's a big town. I'm going to be there on tour coming up in January, so I'll have you come down. Come with him, Dana. Oh, Dana. We'll see. I should jump on one of these. Yeah. Oh, I'd love it. I've done stand-up a time or two. I can't call it, Dana. We're going to go together. We're going to do terrific things. Let me tell you. And if Joe Biden would say, come on, folks, we've got to do this. You've got to do this. He says to people, my father lost his job.

No joke. I'm not kidding around here. Sorry, I was just doing a little Biden. Oh, you're good. You're really good. We're all good, and we just thank you for the wonderful sun that you gave us. And you look wonderful, you two. Thank you. I worked on my lighting for six hours.

But yeah, such a pleasure to meet you both on this interview and share your thoughts with the great Chris Farley. And you're just lovely people and you're Midwest. I don't know. I just I kind of fall in love with you during this. Both of you. But anyway.

God bless. Well, I love this show. Yeah. Yeah. This will be on the wall. And David and I are doing this together and we, we love, we love interviewing our friends and well, it's really working. That's great. It's going to get up to Madison. Please. Yeah. You're welcome. Welcome. The door is always open for you. All right. Bye and visit. All right. Bye you guys. Thank you. Bye you guys. Good to see you. Bye. She is funny. Dana. She's so hilarious.

You know, Dana, I think we have a connection. We've been friends for a long time. And for this episode of Fly on the Wall, we've partnered with eHarmony, which isn't us. eHarmony is a dating app to find someone you can be yourself with. We are not dating. I want to clarify that. But the connection is what you want in a dating partner.

Just someone like, if you found someone that listened to this podcast, that's somewhat of a connection. And then you sort of build on that. You want someone with some common ground. Yeah. It's not, it, look, if you want to connect romantically over, you know, super fly or fly on the wall, uh,

It just makes us happy. You don't want to be watching The Godfather and the person next to you goes, this movie sucks. You want to- So dumb. Yeah. You want to connect on all issues and harmonize in life. Similar sensibility, similar sense of humor, and similar sense of sense. I don't like when they watch The Godfather and they're like, everyone in this movie is so old. I'm like, they're 40.

Watch 2001 Space Odyssey. Too much of this movie is in outer space. I don't like it. When do they land? When do they land? Why is that stupid red light acting so silly? Who's friends with a robot? We know dating isn't easy. That's why we partnered with eHarmony because dating is different on eHarmony. They want you to find someone who gets you, someone you can be comfortable with.

Yeah. I mean, the whole idea is you're going to take a compatibility quiz, helps your personality come out in your profile, which makes all the profiles on eHarmony way more interesting and fun to read. So I think this is the goal of dating sites, and I think eHarmony does it great. It's just finding somebody you're compatible with.

So get started today with a compatibility quiz. So you can find some and you can be yourself with. Get Who Gets You on eHarmony. Sign up today. Robert Half Research indicates 9 out of 10 hiring managers are having difficulty hiring. If you have open roles, chances are you're feeling this too. That's why you need Robert Half. Our specialized recruiting professionals engage their skills...

with our award-winning AI to connect businesses of all sizes with highly skilled talent in finance and accounting, technology, marketing and creative, legal and administrative and customer support. At Robert Half, we know talent. Visit roberthalf.com today. - Next up is Rob Lowe, who was in the movie, the great movie, "Tommy Boy" with David and Chris. And he has some very funny and interesting stories.

Rob Lowe is like water. You know, the thing about water, don't ever underestimate the value of water. That's the quickest Lorne we've ever had.

That's an actual quote. I did not make that up. Do not ever underestimate the value of me telling you the value of water. That was the extension. That was your four. It was a six degree. Rob, have you ever thought, what did he say, Dana? When he left, he goes.

You know, Steve said, when you retire, where are you going? And I said, I'm going up, you know, whatever. He had some place and he goes, will there be funny people there? And he goes, I never thought of that. I'm around funny people every day of my life, which is true. Yeah. And he goes, what if, what if I wasn't at some point? And I go, God, that hit me too. I go, fuck, that's true. Everyone I know is good. Look, we're talking to Rob Lowe. Funny. Just talk to Sandler. Funny. Everyone we turn, everyone's funny.

And then you go, oh. That happened when we were casting Wayne's World 1. Do you remember that? Inflation adjusted $400 million global movie. But anyway, but I remember inflation adjusted is big, Rob. Don't tell me you don't go back and go, that was a fucking hit. But I remember we're talking about that character that Rob did so brilliantly in the show. And Lauren said, Rob Lowe's available.

You know, and Mike and I looked at each other and said, hell yeah. So anyway, the rest is history. The great Rob is joining us as we celebrate our friend Chris Farley. And here we are. And how are you, Rob? How's your day? I know you're working right now, right? I am. I'm

I'm on, uh, I'm shooting season four of fire town lone star. Damn. It's already season four season four. And we come, we're on in, uh, uh, G end of January. We begin on the air and, um, I'm on the set. I'm in my trailer. Um, I told everybody on the set,

Walk away because I'm doing something important. You are. I am going to talk to, to my two buddies about my third buddy. That's what we're doing. That's what we're here for. Well, Rob, you can open with a story about him or we can just talk about it. Whatever you want to do. We can talk about your interaction. Where did you first meet him? And what were your thoughts? I,

I remember there's certain people you vividly remember the first time you meet them. No disrespect to either of you, and I love you and your legendary figures. I don't remember the first time I met you. I do remember the first time I met Farley. It was at Lorne's wedding to Alice. Whoa. And I was headed out to the port-a-potty.

And there was this large person sweating buckets stuffed into a madras. Stuffed. We know what madras is, right? Madras is a particular pattern. Colorful. Sport coat. Mm-hmm.

And pacing up and down, and I just was like, "Wow, I better see if Lorne has security because this person can't be invited." I've come to find out that that was Chris Farley. So we had no interaction, but he made such a visual impact on me. And then the next time I met him, he was doing a bit in, was it Wayne's World 1 or 2, Dana? Two or three.

God, wasn't he in both of them? I think he was in both. He was like back... Yes, it was first. He was backstage at Alice Cooper. That's what it was. Backstage, yeah. And I was like, hey, you're the port-a-potty guy from Lorne's Wedding. Great. You're doing a little thing in the movie. Good for you. And then, of course, Farley became a very big star. And Lorne and I were playing tennis with the late, great Bernie Brillstein. And Lorne said...

There's a new idea for a movie. It's you and Farley as brothers. Oh, right, right. And I went, that's super funny. And then I didn't hear anything about it for months and months and months. And then, Lord

lauren's like so the movie is coming together and uh we want to talk to you about it and now it was uh they realized that spade is way more funny than me so spade was uh the this the second banana um but i still was the brother and tommy boy as you know

And then I, you know, then we had great, great stories. I have great stories of shooting with you Spade and with, with Farley. Do you remember that? Were you there the day we went to the steakhouse together? Do you remember that? Barbarians? Yes. Barbarians. Just in Toronto. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Toronto. So, you know, Farley loved to eat, loved his steak. And so I remember he ordered two, two, two,

Full porterhouse steak. So a porterhouse is a New York steak and a filet on the bone. He ordered two of them. And then this was like an old school steakhouse, like really super old school with the vinyl leather red booths. And they serve you butter that's in these like squares that you have to peel off the top. Paper on top. Yeah. The paper on top squares, right? Yeah. He put a

square of butter on top of every bite. And the bites were generous. How many pounds of meat are we talking about? Approximately between the two porter houses. So you took like, are they 16 ounce? Oh, I'm sure there are 18 houses. Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah. And so a square on every, not every steak, every bite. And I was so horrified.

And I looked, I remember looking over at Spade and Spade just gave me that look like, what are you going to do? You know what I mean? And, and I said, Chris, what is happening? And I'll never forget it. He held up his fork, steak on the fork.

butter square on top of the steak and he goes he goes it needs a hat and he stops it down his gullet and did it kind of look like a little hat on this you know he was right right it was a little butter hat yeah it was a butter hat that's very chris you know rob was there for the great tuna sandwich debacle

Actually, you were the reason. That's right. You were the reason. Okay. What's the tuna sandwich? I'll play along. Tuna sandwich debacle. Oh, Dana, you're not going to pull that out of me. So what happened was... I'm intrigued by the title. I'm begging you, Spade. Well, I think we've talked about it with Rob before, but, you know, we were always on edge. We were flying back and forth from SNL, and every two days, you know, doing read-through on SNL, then we'd fly after read-through, and we'd shoot for... Rob...

unfortunately was sort of had to deal with this schedule with us because we were going back and forth. So he'd maybe do a scene with Bo Derek and then we'd come in and do a scene with him. And, and then, uh, we were getting short on patience with each other, just with everything, you know, just stressful. And, um,

And then he felt sick. The short version is he felt sick and he goes, I don't feel good. And we got to shoot in the morning. I'm just going to go right to sleep. And so I got in and Rob was there. And I think we talked and said, let's grab a beer or something. We went just to the four seasons, just to the bar, one drink and went in, like we got to shoot at 5.00 AM or whatever. So it was, it was absolutely nothing. And the next day he's glaring at me in the, in the mirror and makeup, you know, you can bank off the mirror and see the other guy and,

And I'm like, hey, everybody. And he's just staring at me and he's biting his lip. You know, he does that, Dana. Like, you know, you're in trouble. And he goes, how's Rob Lowe? How's Rob Lowe? I go, what's going on? And he goes, how's Rob Lowe? I go, where's Rob Lowe? I don't know. I don't. Is he in today? And then everyone sort of like backs off because, you know, it's like going to be a fight. I'm like, I don't know what's going on. He goes.

You, we find out as he was mad that Rob Lowe and I went on a date basically without him. And, uh, we didn't call him. And I said, but you said you were sick. You said, you don't call me cause I'm going to bed. And he goes, you fucking call me when you have a beer with Rob Lowe, you run it by me. And I go, what? And so then you run it by me. Yeah. Let me say no. I'll say no. And I go,

okay and then we're on the set and he keeps staring at me and i'm freezing waiting to enter with rob lowe who's inside with i think brian dennehy and beau derrick and the scene and i'm shaking because it's fucking 12 degrees and i'm on the bottom of these stairs or whatever and i'm biting this tuna sandwich and he's staring at me and he's so mad that i'm not fighting back he just walks over and steps on my hand and my sandwich and crunches everything i go what the

fuck. And then I threw my diet Coke on him and then he pushed me down the stairs and then they go action on the walkie and we both freeze. And then we both just walk into the scene. And then I was the post that cracked first. Cause I'm just staring, but there's too much going in my head. Like what's going on. And then, so I just go, uh, and then Pete, the director goes line for spade. And then I go like, I know my lines. I just like, I don't know what's going on. We're in the middle of a fight. So I, uh, I left and went to my trailer and then I think, uh,

Rob or someone talked to Chris and then he went to his trail. It just a big mess on the set. I go, this set's going to be closed down. It was closed down for about 20 minutes. And then they're like, we got to call Lauren, get the fuck back to the set and figure it out. We're like, Ooh, I remember it. I remember it like it was yesterday. I can see it.

I can see him with those. He always wore those awful red wing boots. Remember? Yeah. God awful boots. And those tuna crunchers. I remember him. Yeah. He crunched your tuna. I mean, add my fingers. So what was it like from your point of view, Rob hearing about this? Like the, the stars are fighting. I think David's leaving out a very salient point. Yeah.

And this is what sent Chris over the edge. I think Chris probably would have been okay with us, you know, just down in the bar catching up. My recollection of it is we went to the hot tub. We went to the jacuzzi. Oh, mistake. We went to the jacuzzi. And the notion of you and I in a jacuzzi without him was too much room to bear. Too much room to bear.

Oh yeah, the fun, the funny picture, the FOMO was, he was foaming with FOMO. He couldn't fucking deal. And I said, it wasn't even fun. I was trying to really, it was literally like an affair and we got caught and I was trying to back my way out of it. And he's like, you're lying. And then later when he would talk about that, he goes, did you touch him? Did you kiss him? Where you wish Rob Lowe was on our flight. So that was for about a year.

of uh him mad he was proprietary about oh yeah yeah and and you know but i think he he loved rob being in the movie and he did love uh and he loved beau of course and uh the movie really just we got lucky we got farley 24 hours a day which was a gift it was a gift you know what's insane is as you know we all do lots of things and you never know what's gonna stick but tommy boy

Like when we were doing Wayne's World, we kind of knew that was a thing. And I mean, we didn't know it was gonna be a big hit, but it was like, whatever. But Tommy Boy was always this kind of, it wasn't a very Saturday Night Live-esque movie really, because I had way more heart than that. But Tommy Boy has become, as you know, this just unbelievable part of people's lives. I was getting to know Jonah Hill recently. And Jonah, in all seriousness, not a bit,

We'll tell you that it's his favorite movie of all time. Period. Period. Yeah. Wow. He hears things about Tommy Boy. Pete Siegel says every, he's a director, he goes, every job I've ever gotten is just all they have to see on the resume is Tommy Boy and that's all. He goes, you got it. You can do it. If you can do that, you can do our comedy. What do you think? I mean, it makes me want to watch it again. I remember it being just really a special movie, but man, I think I need to see it tonight. Yeah.

Something happened in that movie, the chemistry between the cast and, you know, it really was, it set Chris up, right? Chris's, all his strengths were on display. Yes. It was like a coming out of introducing everyone that doesn't watch SNL to Chris and backed up by Rob and me and Bo and Brian and everybody just sort of

orbiting around him and just letting him do, but it was smart. They got hard in there and they got the bagpipes and there's just some things in there you don't see coming and, and then it all works out. So I don't know what it was, but it got, we got really, uh,

What do you think it is, Rob? What do you think the magic is? I think it's what, because I asked Jonah that. And listen, Jonah's one of the smartest, funniest dudes around. Crazy, a great actor. Great actor. Unbelievable. Director now. Yeah. Brilliant guy. So I asked him that. It's his favorite movie of all time. So I was like, what is it? And he goes, for me, it's like that scene where Chris is alone sort of praying for

in the sailboat yes because i remember he goes i remember it making me cry in the theater and you know and listen i love i love our wayne's world and i love our austin powers movies but they are making you cry yeah and and i think that was the special sauce yeah and chris had that gear you know that empathy likability whatever you want to call it

you know, that you would take that ride with him effortlessly. But I remember that scene myself as being kind of like, whoa, this is, this is unique for a comedy with so much great slapstick or physical comedy in it, man with a little coat. I mean, that's, was that it? What did he rehearse it? Or did he surprise you with that? Uh, you know, Pete, uh,

Pete has a lot of stories and I think we see it all from our own recollection and some are different because they just are. I don't know. We never really know what's the real. But I remember certain things and I remember – but I remember doing that at work and then in the movie sometimes when there was flat spots because it was a movie about brake pads that there was room for like, hey, maybe we could spice up this brake pad speech and say –

Housekeeping or we could say, you know, something else that, and Pete was very good about saying, try it. Like, I don't know. Or even sometimes people would say, especially I think with housekeeping, he's like, I don't really get it, but try it. If you guys think, and if it doesn't work, we take it out. And that was the big agreement. Like, let's just try stuff. It doesn't work. Take it out. And that's how a lot of movies have done it since. And maybe before that, but it's a great way to do it. Cause if you have an extra couple minutes, you can do it.

Throw every fucking thing against the wall while you're all lined up. You're all in makeup. You're all there. You'll never be there again. Try anything you can. And he did. We got so much out of Chris of just coming. Remember he came to the door, Rob. I don't know if you were there that day. So I go housekeeping. He comes up and the big decision was he's in tighty whities with like

Gar animals on him or something. And the next one, he's just in his hell. And the next one he drops down, he's totally naked. Right. So we had to pick, which is the funniest one. So we just do the same scene over and over. And then you go, it's so sad. Cause they're all funny. Two are going to get scrapped. No one will ever see them. I saw dailies years later. I think Pete had, uh,

And it was him swinging his dick around because when they go, they don't yell cut. He goes, oh, Richard. Oh, hold me or whatever. Don't run from your feelings. And then I slam the door and he turns the camera and he swings his dick around. He goes, hi, Sherry Lansing. President of Paramount. The president. Yeah, the president. I'm like, Chrissy, what if she's watching? She has to watch dailies.

Or she watches some or someone's so funny. Well, Robbie, thank you for talking to us. We all love Chris and I know you did. And you're a big, big part of that memory, especially with Tommy boy. I mean, that's the one thing, believe me, I hear about it every day too. People come up to me all the time and say, did you ever eat paint chips as a kid? That's a big one. Big one. Yeah. I mean, there's a, there's a lot of them. This, these shoes are worth more than your life.

There's a lot of, a lot of good quotes. By the way, what about, I mean, I mean, we're talking about Chris, but Rob's unsung laughs because Chris, you can't even get attention from him, but your shirt getting sucked off. I, when I saw the dailies, I go, you're out of your fucking mind. Is that how, how did you do that? I couldn't believe that's not a trick. Didn't you just do it?

That's one of my proudest comic moments. Unreal. It's one of my proudest comic moments. It's so dumb. It's like this cool guy gets so humiliated and then tries to shrug it off. So it was a really elaborate special effect. And that shirt really does get ripped off of me. It's so cool.

It's not CGI. It's nothing. And you're talking, you're with Julie Warner, right? That's right. I'm with Julie Warner trying to hit on her. I'm just this scuzzy sleazy dirt bag. And, and I'm like, well, Hey, I guess I'll catch you later, baby. And my shirt gets sucked up. One of those pneumatic.

you know, there's old school pneumatic male tubes where they go, shoomp goes up. Yeah. They come off the top of you. I don't know. It literally just goes, I have a button down shirt in it, but it's the button. And then it goes, it's a double whammy. That's funny about it. It's off me. And then it's up the fucking tube. It's one of my favorite physical things I ever got to do. Jonah Hill has good taste. Like that is brilliant. I love you boys. Talk to you soon.

Eric Newman was an assistant to Chris and I on the movie Tommy Boy. He is now a big producer on shows like Narcos. I don't know. We met in 93, right? No, we met in 91, I think. 91. So what years were you on SNL? Well, I had been a PA on Wayne's World.

Yeah. Oh. Okay. But I wasn't, you know, I was, you know, there was a privileged group of PAs that were assigned to you. I kind of had Mike. And so I was, you know, getting him. And I would see...

I would see, I remember actually, because it was so fun to think back on that time with this assignment, you know, with Chris and mine, but I thought about Wayne's World and I was thinking about, you know, seeing you, it was always like, it was like you were putting on a show for the people around you. I was not one of them. I would walk past and watch you make,

making everyone laugh when I was going to get a sandwich for Mike. Yeah. I remember that. Yeah. I remember that. I would make everyone laugh and I'd see you walk by and what's up with Newman. But anyway, well party on. Party on. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me. I, I came to the show in the 93 to 94 season. And I think I,

You had just left or were leaving? Yeah, like in spring or something, right before the McCartney episode where Chris did his. Yes. So when you write this, you know. Wait, Dana, you left during the season? Yeah, we didn't have it. No one's playing instruments, singing. I'm not dancing with Lauren. You just kind of go out the back door. They go, good riddance. Later. Look, my choices around that time is for another podcast. Let's just say that.

I was a pretty naive young man, but so you got there and you're, you're, you're working on the show. Yeah. I was Lawrence. I think Lauren's idea was because I wanted to, you know, I wanted to make movies and, and I, I didn't, you know, I didn't know then that TV would become what it became. I was like, well, I'll go, you know, movies are where it's at. And, and I, and I went, I came to the show. I think his idea was,

I would get to know the cast and then I would, you know, help him make his movies. And, you know, Lauren, as he does now, you know, then he had tremendous power. He was able to, he was the only producer for whom you could make a movie during the SNL season. And he would just kind of make it work. Sure.

And I came out there and we were developing Tommy Boy at the time. And the plan was during the season we'd make that movie. And he was able to arrange...

a way where, and it was a, it was brutal. And David, you'll remember the, the, our, our plane, our little jet we had, that was the shittiest private plane that, uh, Oh, I hate bad private jets. They're terrifying. These were, it was, it was, it was an MRI with wings. Yes. Basically. What was it? Was it a prop plane? No. Is it an actual little jet? What a Lear, Lear 35 or something? He,

Yeah. Or like a Cessna, like smaller. Yeah. But I mean, this is the nineties. And so, I mean, this thing was like barely, uh, flight rated. Um, yeah, we would get on it. You know, this, our schedule is basically, Hey Newman, what do we get on? Cause it's so small. It's just me, probably me, you and Chris. Yep. And he, he sort of had to keep an eye on us. And then, um, I get on the pilot, shake my hand. Newman gets on it. Chris gets on and they go, Oh,

Uh-oh. They would maybe have to sit in the back or something like that. They're thinking about balance. Yeah. They want to make sure the weight's all perfect. Go ahead. Well, that was really my job. Lauren said to me, he's like, you know, look after David and Chris, but really Chris, you know, it was like,

It wasn't really David. Everyone has a Lorne. Everyone does, I know. Yours actually, that was really good because it was understated, but very real. It's funny, you know, Rob Lowe has a really good Lorne. By the way, you have a phenomenal Lorne, I know. But his Lorne's really good.

And it's kind of what he chooses to say with it. That's so good because there are certain things that just sound like they'd be, you know, things Lauren would say, but that was, it's like, you know, really, you know, it's really about Chris, you know, he's, you know, and at the time, and I, you know, not a lot of people remember that this sort of period of Chris from like, I guess it was,

Must've been 93 to 96 when we made these movies, David and Chris and me and the others, Chris was totally sober in this period. You know, if he, that's what I thought, because he seems so great in Tommy boy. I couldn't imagine he was using. No, he wasn't bloated in the face or like bleary and just on point. We were, and we were together all the time. It was my job was to look after him. David was, I don't know if this has changed. I doubt it has, but,

David is the only actor I've ever worked with, even since, who was looking to get out of scenes. Anytime David could say, hey, what if my guy's not in this scene? How about if I'm? And I remember we would take this plane, and the schedule basically was

We would fly to Toronto on, you know, from Teterboro airport in New Jersey, we'd fly to, to Toronto and we would shoot Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday morning. We would fly back for the read through. We would do the read through. Then we get back on the plane, fly up flashbacks, shoot Thursday, Friday, Tuesday,

And I think Friday night we would come back and join rehearsals or, you know, Chris and David would, I would just watch and, and then do the show. And then oftentimes we would, I don't know why we would rather than go back to our apartments and go to sleep on Sunday, we would fly back Saturday night after the show. And we did that. Wow. Yeah. It was, we did it for, you know, at least, you know, a week.

You know, sometimes Newman, I remember one time we did that. We had to fly back after the show. I think we just did. But Sunday morning we had a scene in Tommy boy where Rob Lowe were inside an auto plant. It's Zelinsky and Rob Lowe gets hit in the balls. And we only had that for Sunday. So we, I think we shot 24 hours. That was one night we broke some rules cause we just kept shooting. And I'm like, I think we're, are we going to keep going? And they went,

like sunday from 7 00 a.m then it went to 7 00 p.m then it went and i was like oh boy that was the akroid that was the oh yeah that was because we only yeah it was a functioning plant

That we could only shoot on Sunday. Yeah, it was, it was brutal and it was fun. And at that, I was probably 22 years old, so I could. Youth really helps in those situations. I'm getting tired just thinking about it, but that's. It was brutal. Crazy. And I thought, you know, we have this, this plane and, and it was, you know, in those days you could smoke on the planes or Chris smoked anywhere. And we would, you know,

play checkers. I don't know why I didn't. And checkers to me, isn't even really a game. It's more, it's kind of like playing like coin toss. It's like, you know, it's like a time killer for children. I guess there's not a 12 move ahead thing. There's no Bobby Fisher of, of checkers. But for some reason,

we would play. I never played with David cause he was, you know, he knew it was a waste of time, but Chris, he was a chess champion. And it was the old saying, I was playing chess and they were over there. Exactly. And, and,

David was plotting to get out of scenes while you guys were playing checkers. I was highlighting the script going, they don't need me in this. I don't need to have that entrance. I beat Chris like 10 times in a row. I mean, just literally, it's like, yeah, oh, man. And, you know, he started getting madder and madder. And then at one point, he screamed at me. He's like, you never move your back row. And he tipped the checker off.

Oh my God, I remember that. He would get, and he was very aware of his sort of, you know, how funny his temper was. So it would always kind of become a joke. But David, do you remember when-

when David, again, trying to get out of work or at least knowing when work was coming, David would ask me for a day out of days schedule. Oh yeah. I love that. And day out of day. Yeah. So, you know, day to day is, is a, you know, as you know, for those who don't know is it's, it's,

a single piece of paper that has sort of a, almost a graph on it that will tell you like when you're working, you can look at it, you can find the actor. Monday through Friday. Yeah, here you are. Spade works, Farley works. Yeah. And it's not, and they're not that easy to read unless you know how to read them. But so David and I are, I've got one and David's got one.

And Chris sees that, like, here's this thing that he doesn't have. And he tears mine out of my hand. And he says, from now on, anything David gets, I get. And he looks at it.

turns it sideways. Can't like, can't figure it out. And then he's upside down and then he pretends to fall asleep. He used to, I remember one, one night we were flying on the plane. It was for some reason, David, you weren't there. You'd successfully gotten out of whatever it was that we wanted you to do. And we're on the plane and you know, it's three in the morning and it's dark and it's,

you know i'm i'm asleep or at least you know half asleep my eyes closed and the light turns on and i can i can hear chris trying not to laugh so i'm like oh like i don't know what this is going to be and i turn over and chris is laying stretched out on the chair next to me totally nude and

And he had taken off all his clothes and he was waiting for me to notice him. But like, you know, it was the most, you know, botched joke ever. It was really, really funny. One checker over his dick. He had done this thing to me before we started Tommy Boy.

There was, you know, you know, you guys have talked a lot about, about SNL on the show, obviously. And, and, you know, so people know that there's a dress rehearsal and then there's a sort of an hour in between, you know, and then there's a, then the live show and they're virtually the same show, except things get cut based on time or performance. And Chris had gotten,

a sketch cut that he was excited about. And I remember I saw him outside of Lauren's office on, on the, on the ninth floor, you know, the one that the office it's just above eight, you know, the, I guess it's the ninth floor and he was, Chris was upset and he, and I was in the hallway with him alone and he said, you know what, fuck this. Like I'm done, fuck this. And you know, the show was starting and, and he,

walked out of down the hallway to the elevator, press the down button and got into the elevator. And, and I got in with him because I was like, you know, it was, I, it was a little bit like my favorite year, you know, like I had to follow, you know, uh, Peter O'Toole around and I couldn't, yeah, yes, Peter, exactly. And I, I couldn't, you know, I didn't have a cell phone, uh,

But we get into the elevator and at 30 Rock they have all the monitors and the show. I can see that the show has started and Chris and I are now going down the elevator. We're in the elevator, we've exited in the lobby.

And I said, Chris, what are you doing? Like, you know, you have like maybe, you know, there's the monologue and then like you're in the first sketch. And he's like, I'm going to go to I'm going to go to 8th Avenue and score. Like, I'm like, fuck this. We're gonna go to the Barney Stone. I'm like, no, no, no, no, we're not. I can't like this is, you know, this is this will be bad for you. It'll be really bad for me.

Chris will be fine. You'll get fired. Yeah, exactly. And I'm like, and I don't know how, like, yeah, we passed the security guards downstairs. They're like, Hey, why is Chris Farley in some type of costume walking out? Yeah, exactly. I think he was like a bumblebee or something. And then, uh, and it was like, is this like part of the show? I'm like, no, I'm like, it's not part of the show. And I, and I don't know how to call for help. And we get out on the fifth Avenue and, um, he, uh,

and he hails a cab and I'm like, "Chris, please don't do this." And he's like, "No, fuck this." The cab pulls up, he opens the door and I'm thinking, do I go with him? Do I run upstairs? I don't know. I wouldn't even know who to get to.

And he opens the door and then he's like, I'll just fuck it with you. Shuts it. And we get back in the elevator, go upstairs and he goes out right in time to go on the sketch. And I had forgotten it. It was so traumatizing. Until it was the meanest joke ever. But it was. But I think after that.

Cause that was before even talking to him. I think he was like, okay, I, this guy can, I like this guy. Like he's, you know, he went on the whole ride with me and I didn't lose it. No, I didn't lose it. So you're 22 years of age. And what do you, I mean, the psychological jujitsu that you're being asked to, to be knowledgeable about. I mean, I guess Lauren intuited that you had kind of a high social IQ or something. Cause that's, yeah. I mean, like, like a lot, I would say like most of the people who have my job, like, by the way, my daughter, Sarah, uh,

has my job now at Saturday live of 30 years ago. Oh really? Hi Sarah. Yeah. Hi Sarah. Is she out trying to score with one of the performers? Is she watching, she watching Colin Jost? Yes, basically. Yeah. She's, she's, I think she's attached to the writers, which is probably safer than being attached to the talent as I was. Dana, whenever they said, where's Farley? And they go, he went down to ninth Avenue. Everyone knew what that meant. Yeah.

There was a person's name that when they said he's with that person, I go, oh boy. Because everyone knew that. It was the Blarney Stone, I think, or one of those Blarney Stone bars. Go meet. But I think...

I had been a family friend of Lorne, my dad and Lorne. My dad was the musical guest of the second show. Your dad is Randy Newman. You're from... That's what I didn't know if you wanted me to say, but you're from a famous family, so at least...

you have been around it enough to know something. So you're not just totally, no, I wasn't like a 22 year old regular, not regular, but I, I, uh, I actually really appreciate, uh,

I guess, appreciate the throne. Bad behavior is sort of entertaining to me. It always has been, you know, when I would, I would encounter it. And, and, and so when it happened, yeah, I just never, you know, I never, you know, I wasn't, I was never shocked by it. I did. I did work very hard. Like I, I, and I felt like I had sort of the, the advanced, I remember the first day of Wayne's world, you know, and I was in college as a summer, you know, it was a summer thing.

I had to go meet Lorne at the parking gate at Paramount, where he had driven in. He was driving one of those new 500 Mercedes, the two-door, the convertible that no one had yet. Beep, beep, over here. I was like, I'm here. I don't use a parking card. So I go out there and I stand. And the guard is like, hey, you can't do that. I was like, trust me, I can. I have to. I have to. And so...

You know, I use the card to let him in and he's like, what's going on? You know, like give me, you know, like basically like brief him. But I brief him

While he continues driving at about 12 to 15 miles an hour. So I'm running alongside and talking with Lauren, telling Lauren, like, well, today you have this. And I think he's like, I like this. This guy's, you know, he'll, he'll do it. You know, I'll send him in. And I think I was sort of a, you know, you could kind of send me into the machine gun, I guess. And I think maybe he knew that. And so I, I,

And at SNL, you know, it was a great, you know, I know that I was telling my daughter that when you're there, even if it's a great year, everyone talks about how shitty the show, if you're on the show, everyone was like, oh, yeah, we were, you know, we're not, and you don't realize you're part of. It's not cool anymore. No, but, and then you look back to see, you know, it was you guys and it was, you know, I think Rock had just left, but it was, you know, Sandler, who I saw yesterday at a farm shop.

And it was Mike and it was Phil's last year on the show. It was just this phenomenal golden era of the show. But when you're in it, it's always kind of, you know, sure. I always thought that when I came back to guest hosts, I was just in a room hanging out with Farley, David, maybe Rock.

and Sandler and they were just so fucking funny I just thought they were the funniest group of people and so talented and smart so this whole that's why they got the name the bad boys yeah it was a it was but then it was Saturday Night Dead yes there was that you know I guess there was a review and they're also there had been a book had come out that it's sort of

but you know, I, I went to see Lauren a couple of weeks ago cause you know, to visit my daughter and it's unchanged, you know, pretty much. Oh yeah. Really? He's figured it out. You know, he's tension and never, never did a new theme, never did a new format. He was very smart about his brand. It's what they expect. Do you remember Dana when, uh, uh,

Maybe you just left the New York Magazine. Yeah, I remember that article. It was embedded with us. Yeah. And then the guy rat-fucked us and wrote a bad article, and everyone was up on 17 going, that's when Farley and Sandler were like, let's go beat the fuck out of this guy. And there was definitely a long conversation about how to do that. Why do you do it? Yeah, Farley was leading the charge. Had to do Sandler yelling.

I think it wasn't risk getting fired, but everyone was so felt so betrayed. It was a nasty article. That was, that was that year. Cause I remember that guy was around. Yeah. I don't know. And I'd never seen anybody let in like a Monday meeting or really on the inside. Everyone's kissing his ass. And then he's like these fucking dipshits. And we're like, Oh boy, Oh, this, we just got welcomed to showbiz. Do you remember David? When do you remember when we saw Bon Jovi at the airport?

Do you remember that? Oh, it's the private airport. It's great. So, so we're, so we have this, like I said, we had this shitty little plane. Jalopy. And yeah, that barely holds, you know, double cake. It's like, you know, literally the pilot's like, Hey guys, can one of you hold onto that panel while we land? So,

So we have to duct tape the wings one more round. And every once in a while we would get a different plane, but it was never a better plane. But one day we're at, we're on the way back to SNL from, from the way back to New York and,

And we're in that little private air terminal. And this beautiful plane is wheeled out like this. It's like a G4 brand new at the time. Golf stream. And, and we're like, wow, like, like thoroughly, like, you know, our plane was like that plane had a baby. Yeah. And so,

We think for a minute, maybe that's our plane. And then they're like, no, no, that's not your plane. And out walks Jon Bon Jovi and the other Bon Jovi, the only other guy whose name I know. Richie. Richie Sambora. Yeah. And that's their plane. They're rock stars. Yes. And they see Chris and David and, you know, in the way that famous people always kind of know each other. Like, oh, hey, man. Like, you know. And writer on cue says,

Our plane comes out and looks at it and he goes, is that your plane? And they're like, yeah, you know, kind of, you know, like already braced for, you know, sound effect. And it's like that. And he's like, oh, he's like, wow, you guys should, you should come with us. Like, you know, and we're like, and at that point, you were kind of insulted and, and, and, you know, Chris is like, nah, no, no, we got, we're good, dude.

And Bon Jovi goes, well, good luck and gets on his plane and flies away. And a number of years later, I don't think David, I ever told you this number of years later, I had a meeting with Bon Jovi, you know, his manager, I think it was Michael, Michael Rodenberg or somebody said, Hey, will you meet John? He's, you know, he's, he's acting and, and, and he's not a bad actor at all.

And I had this meeting with him and I reminded him like, you know, yeah, we, I said, I met, I met you at the airport with, you know, Farley and Spade. He's like, and he immediately was like, you know what? He goes, I think about that sometimes.

because i think i came off sounding like a dick and i seriously didn't mean to the moment i got on the plane i was like why did i say that and i was like wow like wow turns out great guy you know like or he even gave a shit or you remember yeah yeah yeah it's probably an awkward joke because he probably was kind of comedians who are famous are intimidating as well yeah because they have x-ray vision they're seeing the whole playing field but uh god that's amazing yeah it's

It was fun. We used to go to... What was the route? Barbarians. Chris always wanted to go to. By the way, Barbarians has come up about three times. I know, of course. It's hysterical. What was so great about it? I mean, just dark and a bar. It was in proximity to a strip club. Yeah, called the Brass Rail, which is across the street. The Brass Rail. But I also think that it must have been comforting. I think Chris...

came from that kind of place in terms of like where the steakhouse was the, you know, when the, you know, yuck bag. Yeah. When the family would go out to dinner, you know, on a special occasion, they would go to this, you know, red leather, you know, steak place. Yeah, exactly. Um,

But yeah, it was he would and then we would always end up the brass rail when we go to the brass rail, Dana. So we get per diem. Right. So if people don't know, you get like money to spend for food on a movie. So let's say we get 700 bucks for the week and then we're stuck on the movie so much. It's fun because it's free actual cash that no one can get their greedy mitts on. We just get to keep it. But you don't spend it that much because you're you're always on set.

So we go to the brass rail and he goes, David, come with me. I go, I don't want to go there again, dude. He goes, just two seconds. We'd walk in. He'd immediately take a VIP dance. I just sit there for 45 minutes. And then he comes back and he goes, all right, I'm tapped out. Let's go. And then we'd go and I go, you spent all your premium. He goes, David, if you don't spend it, you have to give it back. I go, I don't think that's how it works. I have to give it back.

He goes, give me yours. I'll spend it for you. I go, no, no. He had such a funny relationship with you, David. The way he'd say these little innocent things to you all the time. You guys fought. I don't remember. I mean, remember when you guys had, yeah, they were fighting on during Tommy Boy. And what was the fight basically about?

uh david i mean there was definitely a girl somewhere in there i can't remember exactly what whether that was more black sheep but yeah yeah yeah yeah when did he step on your sandwich

That was Tommy boy. No, actually there was a problem during, yeah. On Tommy boy for that. Um, but he, oh yeah, he stepped on my sandwich, the great tuna salad. Yeah. He smashes it. Mark called me and said, Chris step on David sandwich. Yes. And his fucking hand.

Yeah. And that was really the problem. And then he threw me down the stairs. Yeah, that was that too. You're light and you're scrappy. But Dana, I didn't say this part. So Fred Wolf is one of the writers. He was on set writing a lot of jokes. And he comes in my...

My thing. And Farley's so mad and he doesn't know what to do because Fred's like, you can't beat up Spade. He's in the movie and you can beat him up, but just don't because he knows you can. We all know you can. And you're that anger. And, and, and he goes, I know, I know. And he, and he walks away, but he's so mad. Skippy walks by.

And out the window, he full-form shoulder tackles Skippy for absolutely no reason as hard as he can to the ground. Because Skippy was 350. Yeah. And he had to find someone his size. That's all he heard in his head. So he just decks him and then gets up and walks away and lights a cigarette. And Skippy's on the ground. Because...

He just had to get it out. And then he was calm down. We go, let's go back to the set. It was really weird to go back to set after having a fight and going, this is just our life. We do this a lot. What Eric, what do you want to say? Like he was incredibly agile. Like, you know, he was a big guy, but man, like he could really ice skate. He could do, he was like incredibly athletic.

And, and, you know, I could see him putting, you know, all of his weight behind a shoulder like that and knocking a giant guy like Skippy down. And while the guy is saying, hi, Chris. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. No, doesn't see it coming at all. Maybe Chris knew something we didn't know. Yeah. It was on the future. Yeah. And the horizon. I think Skippy was getting me back for that. We had a, uh, I remember you and, and Chris and I were sitting, uh,

in our chairs. I even, I think I even got a chair at that point. I think it must've been far enough into the production where I had finagled my own chair, but, and we're sitting with Brian Dennehy, you know, in between takes, it was at that house, that crazy house. And, and Dennehy was like reading a book or something. And he looks over at these three idiots sitting next to him. And he's like, so what are you guys up to for what's next for you guys? And we're all like, wow, we don't know. No idea. He's like, well, I'm doing the big one this fall.

And we're like, the big one? He's like, salesman. And so David and I are like, oh, cool, salesman. And Chris goes, what's salesman? He says, death of a salesman. And then Chris goes, what's death of a salesman? He had no idea. But he was a...

He did this thing, you know, he was, he did this thing with me. He, it started as like a, cause I do think he, you know, I felt Chris did believe that I was going to do things. And my, you know, I think he, he, he, he had sort of said, you know, you're going to, you're going to make it, which I appreciate it. It was all, all you want to hear when you're a kid. Yeah.

And though I wasn't much younger than he was, but, you know, in terms of what he had already accomplished, like I was, you know, I was nowhere. And he had this thing he would do where he would pretend that I had made it. And many years later, 10 years on or whatever, and his career had gone into the toilet.

And so he was running into me trying to get jobs, trying to get like, you know, work and talking about like, you know, yeah, you know, things haven't been so good for me, you know, and he and he went really deep with it. Like you would talk about like, you know, a kid that he found out he had that he hadn't. Yeah, no, I need them.

money. It's so funny. His big scenarios thing, he would go, Davey, I'm going to act like I'm a waiter and you act like you want this food, but we don't have it. And then we would just do that in the office for fucking to kill time. But you get the funniest things out of that. And he would cry. He would get himself like at his own, like imagined predicament of how bad things have gotten for him.

And I remember he had done, you know, he got paid on Cable Guy. There was like that Cable Guy thing where like, yeah, I remember he was supposed to be able to do it. He got paid to not do it, right? Yeah, he got paid to not do it. And then he got offered, this is during Black Sheep, you know, where he got offered Beverly Hills Ninja. Remember that? And he was gotten offered a fortune. We remember. Six million. We just talked to Cravoy. Oh, really? Oh, good. And yeah, I remember, I mean, you know, I'm a fan of Brad's, but like, I remember her saying like,

don't do Beverly Hills. And I was like, why, why are you gonna do that? I guess I was such a Lorne loyalist. I was like anything that was outside of the Lorne. - Well, you know, there was a mess with Black Sheep and then he could have done Cable Guy that summer. - Yep. - And then they went, you know, he went to Jim Carrey, but he was gonna get a nice chunk, maybe three for Cable Guy, which was huge. And then here comes Curvoy with six. And I was just, we were all going, whoa.

Well, that was when it was funny. You just remind me. That's what Gervitz screamed at me once. I had dinner with Gervitz the other night and Gervitz screamed at me. He called me and, and, uh, because I had said, I had sort of offered an opinion as to why that happened. It's like, you know, it's like, Lord, he remember Chris was pissed that.

cable guy had somehow gotten away from him. And he, I think he blamed Lorne or he blamed, you know, I think he had to do black sheep. Yes. He had to do black sheep. And I said to him, I said, well, you know, like I basically said something, which I, you know, it was the last time I ever said, you know, now I have so many,

friends who are representatives and like the worst thing you can do is get in between a client and the rep by saying, Hey, your guy didn't read the contract or something. And I just, but I was, you know, young. And I said that, and boy, Adam Bennett called me first and you know, he was the soft touch and he was like, you made a mistake. And you know, you got like, and then he was the jab and here comes the right hook blasted me. Like really? It was, I still remember it. What the fuck are you guys doing?

Yeah, basically. Hey, to be fair, stay the fuck out of our business. Basically. Yeah, that was a big mess, but it was, I think they, Lorne wouldn't push, or Paramount wouldn't push Black Sheep an extra summer. Because we have one summer to shoot something, you know? Paramount was rough. I mean, all movie studios are rough, but like you remember- They were rough on Pete Siegel, too. Oh, yeah. But they were also rough, like I remember there was a Wayne's World 2 thing, remember Dana, where they were going to sue Mike?

Yeah, sort of passport to Pimlico. To Pimlico, exactly. The beats were too lined up or something. So we had to get the script together very, very quickly. And we couldn't punt because we already had a tie-in with McDonald's. So it was the train left the station. Such great movie biz. It was fun. Behind the scenes, it's unreal. Yeah.

Just for our audience, I just want to say, because people are listening to this, Eric Newman went on to become a huge movie producer and television producer, Narcos. I just think that's a nice context. Oh, thank you. His young daughter, Sarah, is at Saturday Night Live. So I...

Anyway, we should have you for an episode. By the way, I don't know what more I'll come up with. You seem to be a fountain of stuff around that show. Newman, it is so fun talking to you because it throws me exactly right back on the plane and exactly how him turning that goddamn sheet upside down and going, you give me one of these fucking... While he's smoking, while it's three feet of airspace. Sweating and smoking. And he turns it upside down and looks, he doesn't even understand it, then he just fakes and falls asleep. It was nice to think about...

You know, I, as we all did, you know, I loved him. You know, he was so sweet. He was amazing. You know, and he laughed so hard at your jokes and he was so eager. He was a sweet guy.

Okay, when you're hiring for your small business, you want to find quality professionals that are right for the role, obviously. That's why you have to check out LinkedIn Jobs. Everyone knows LinkedIn, but LinkedIn Jobs has the tools to help find the right professionals for your team faster and for free. That's right. You need good people, Dana.

You do, David. And newsflash, LinkedIn isn't just a job board. LinkedIn helps you hire professionals you can't find anywhere else. Even those who aren't actively searching for a new job, it might be open to the perfect role. In a given month, David, check this out, write it down if you want to, over 70% of LinkedIn users don't visit other leading job sites. So if you're not looking on LinkedIn,

You're looking in the wrong place. Well, because they get what they want from LinkedIn. So why look around? On LinkedIn, 86% of small businesses get a qualified candidate within 24 hours. That's one day according to my calculations. That's right. And LinkedIn knows that small businesses are wearing so many hats that might not have the time and or resources to hire. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. They're constantly finding ways to make the process easier, even though it's easy already. Yeah.

They launched a feature that helps you write job descriptions, make it even easier if you want to post something, you know. That's right. Quicker. 2.5 million small businesses use LinkedIn for hiring. Listen, post your job for free at LinkedIn.com slash candidates. That's LinkedIn.com slash candidates to post your job for free. As always, terms and conditions apply. You know, Rosetta Stone, the most trusted language learning program.

If you want to learn a new language, which, you know, time like the present, it's always fun to learn when you get older. I know. And it's not learning a language when you're older, you know, over the age of 20 is difficult. You know, I mean, all the high school Spanish I took, grade school Spanish, you know, all I can say is hola.

and hasta luego so it goes out of your head so now you have rosetta stone david tell them about it well dana you know more than anyone trusted expert for 30 years with millions of users in 25 languages uh i mean my gosh they have spanish french italian german i don't think you can throw them a curveball i think they're gonna know what don't they have the language you want yeah

and immerses you in many ways. There's no English translations. You know what I'm saying? I know no English. You need a Rosetta Stone for English. No English translation, so you really learn to speak and listen and think in that language. That's the whole idea of Rosetta Stone is that it sticks to your head. It sticks to your brain. I learned German out of a book. It just doesn't stick as hard, so this is the way to do it. Just don't type.

designed for long term retention

There's a true accent feature. It gives you feedback on your pronunciation. Yes. And of course, there's desktop app options. There's an audio companion and ability to download lessons offline. Yeah, so that's great. Lifetime access to all 25 language courses Rosetta Stone offers for 50% off. A steal! And I do think that the off-label thing that... I'm ad-libbing now, going off script.

is that when you learn a language and you learn to pronunciate the words in that language, you start to learn about the people who live there and speak that language. Sort of a subtle, intuitive way of integrating with the culture. A little different, yeah. Don't put off learning that language. There's no better time than right now to get started. For a very limited time, Fly on the Wall listeners can get Rosetta Stone's lifetime membership for 50% off.

You just visit rosettastone.com slash fly. That's 50% off, unlimited access to 25 language courses for the rest of your life. Redeem your 50% off at rosettastone.com slash fly today.

And now we talked with Mike Myers, who knew Chris in Chicago, loved him. And he's got some really, really interesting and fun stories, actually, about the genius of Chris Farley. ♪

I want to thank Mike Myers for coming on today. Oh, sorry. Any thoughts about our great friend, Chris Farley, one of the all time funniest humans that walked around on our planet. Oh, he's a Chris Farley was a genius. Just one of the most naturally funny people I've ever met. Big heart, kind person. You know, just a,

somebody you couldn't stop watching. You know what I mean? You, you know, he had that, uh, he was must see TV. Oh my God, how corny, but yes, you know what I mean? And, uh, it's kind of true. And, uh, cause you were in second city with him, right? Or you were in Chicago. I was, I was, I wasn't in second city with him. I was waiting for my American immigration to kick in and, uh, dealt close, uh,

And Sharna Halpern were very, very gracious to allow me to work out while I was waiting for my second city American immigration to kick in because I was born in Canada.

and uh there i improvised a lot with farley and and he you know he was obviously super talented uh sometimes it was very dangerous literally people's teeth would get knocked out and uh because he would get so animated it actually knocked someone yeah yeah i got hit in the head a couple times um it was very different than the more kind of genteel comedy that i was uh

used to in Canada and certainly in England where it's a little more verbal. Clever is a very important thing in British comedy and less important. Clever, like, you know, oh my God, what a clever use of words. And in America, and I'm probably more funny. Funny should it be clever, fantastic. You know what I mean? It's like kind of like what's happening right now in the world of claptor.

where people will give you a round of applause for having said something politically. Clafter. Clafter, as opposed to laughter. Yes, fine choir, preach to choir, and then get claptor. Clafter. And I was raised with laughter, you know what I mean? Because something about being between America and England, appreciate laughter.

Clever. Crave laughter. And Farley was pure laughter. And, you know, one of my strongest memories is, which is what I love working with you, Dana, when we made the movies, is that you're funny. And David, I've hung out with you. Very, very funny. Off for no other reason than we just enjoy having a sense of humor. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's fun. And there are comedians I've met who are not those people. And they look at you like, we're not working now, clown. Relax. Relax.

I would be doing this if there was no money in it, dude. I just like doing bits. Will Ferrell's like that. I have a 25-year-old running bit with Will Ferrell, and I had that with Farley. So on Saturday Night Live, I used to have my dinner on Saturday, on the day of. Then I'd have my shower at exactly 4.17 or something, and

And Farley would always come to my shower completely naked with his big, giant body. And he'd press me against the wall and go, oh, Michael, I've always loved you. Just one kiss. And I'd beat him. I'd beat him. I said, go, Farley, get the fuck out of here. Get out. Get out. Get out. And I couldn't hit him very hard because it was so funny. And every week I forgot. You'd think you would remember that every week.

But I was very, very intense, et cetera. And I just go, okay, move that over here. That has to move over here. That's going to get cut. You know what I mean? And, uh, and where was the shower, Mike? I'm sorry. Where was the shit on nine? No bathroom, which is another thing that was super on nine on the ninth floor. Yeah. Right. Eighth floor on the ninth floor. You have these little tiny, I don't know if it's still like that, but tiny cubby hole dressing rooms. Yeah. And then on, uh,

Right at the end of the hall are communal men, women bathrooms that had a communal shower. So I would, I found out at the time when nobody was, was there. And it's like a hospital. It was very much like a youth hostel. And I'd zip in, I'd have everything laid out so that my shower was literally like,

11 seconds long and every time Farley came in and pressed me. Mike, don't run from your feet. With total commitment. So he was stalking you. He was checking the time as well, knowing, and he was ready for you. That's hysterical. I never remember because you know, the shows, I think you had said at Dana best, which is being shot out of a cannon flying to Tokyo once a week. You're so tired.

And you go, I'm only going to ever do this show once in my life. I might as well give it my all. What else would I do? I regret not taking a shower there. I should have done something. I don't know if I took a shower the whole time I was on it. Because I was so tired, I needed something to wake up. I'd come in and do rewrites. Mike, I have a question about that.

More of a statement. I thought, or as an old sketch you wrote... It's a question with a statement wrapped in an indictment, but go ahead. Yes. Yes. You did one that was one of my favorites. I don't know if it gets enough fanfare. It might. Japanese game show. And you...

It was so funny already. Very funny. I think you were. No, I didn't write it. You're in it. Oh, you didn't? It seemed like you. Was it handy maybe? Oh, God, I can't think of his name right now. Super funny writer. He was a guest writer that week and he wrote it and made us all learn Japanese. Oh, it was unbelievable. Unbelievable. And then Farley is the added ingredient that-

was so great. He's, for people that don't see it, it's a purely Japanese game show. He comes in off the street. He thinks he's in a different... He thinks he's taking a studio tour of Tokyo TV. But in fact, he ends up as a contestant and part of the show is to be electrocuted and humiliated

Of course. You know. And he's playing Wisconsin, like the perfect, like you talking Japanese to him and then someone cut someone's finger off when they get the question wrong. He's like, oh, wait, I, again, I am not, I don't speak Japanese. I'm not from here. Yeah.

Yeah, I feel like I'm lost. I shouldn't be answering. And I don't know what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are you doing? Yeah.

Yeah. We've talked about how Chris's explosive rhythm was always so potent. When he was in distress or being injured or anything where he was panicked, he had that. And it was very musical. I mean, you saw him a little more up close maybe in Chicago than we did, but there was a high intellect in a sense, comedic IQ that Chris had, that he knew what he was doing. He knew how funny those rhythms were. It reminded me of Kennison in a way when he would scream. Yes.

Kenison had the staccato but Chris had his own sort of you guys sort of were doing it a second ago but yeah it was very potent but he you know it's kind of like he he had the humility the first thing about the English comedy

There's a little bit of, you know, I'm smart as well. I'm not just silly. And Canada and the USA are freed from the need to prove to your audience that you have an intellect.

But you have to be smart enough to do comedy. Yeah, sure. People forget that just if you're good, that means you're smart because you are thinking of the 18 ways you shouldn't do it. You're picking the one that works. So something's going on. I've gotten a few reviews in my life that kind of ding me a little bit. Oh, is this being silly? Yes.

Yeah. As if any, pick anyone out of the crowd beat now, go just be silly. Yeah. And so, because it's, I've seen your shows, you know, conduct that crowd, dude, you know, better than any other comedian I've ever seen. It's a perfectly timed and it's a full show, but yes, which when, when it looks easy, I think with Fardy, it looked easy. And I, I,

You know, there's a lot of focus, a lot of commitment, but it does, you know, so, but we don't need to know how it was made. It was just great. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. You know, Mike, what you were saying about second city, when he would commit, uh, he would get on me. And I think other people like he wanted the exact same commitment. If he got a vibe that you weren't a hundred percent in a sketch, uh,

He was really into it. So he was taught. He's like, you get up there and you give it a thousand and you go to the crowd and you come in exploding into that scene. And so he had all these rules in his head and he would do them all. And if he caught someone, uh, gold brick and yeah, he'd be like, you know, he'd get on your ass about, which I like. That is the second city training. And then a lot of that is the late Dell close who, uh,

you know, I've, I've been fortunate to add, and did Chris, we had two big coaches in our life. One is Lauren Michaels. And, uh, the other one is, uh, Dell close, you know, and, uh,

And one of the things I think we all kind of feel about Lorne is that he had a glossary of terms for that, which didn't have a glossary of terms before. You know what I mean? And for sketch comedy, certainly there isn't a day I don't quote. But you do too, Dana. I've learned a lot from you.

I can't believe that, but at this point, I think the student has become the teacher. Now the pupil has become the older students. But Lorne does have a lot of phrases and Lorne-isms, I call them. Mike, what are your Lorne-isms? I haven't heard them all. Do you have any? The value of water is one that is a biggie. People have heard that, but I remember you telling me about that one. Oh, I went to his house.

Never forget the value of water as he's pouring water from like three feet away from the, he was a great poor guy. He put that Amstel light like three, three feet in the air and just like, well, I've never been to anybody's house that was totally stocked, you know, and me neither. Yeah. And he had like every kind of cheese, not just cheese. You know what I mean? And, uh, he said, well, you know, come over to the house. Then he was like, uh,

there's your thing I'll talk to you tomorrow and I'm like but what do I do tonight like there's no TVs or anything so I'm like no okay so I just walked around Amagansett you know

And then the next morning, he's coming. He just had a massage, right? I had all the same experiences. And I was in the kitchen. I was by myself. And I was like, am I allowed to go into the fridge? I'm starving. He goes, have you eaten? I said, no. He said, no, no, just help yourself. And then he pours himself water. And he goes, do you drink water? I was like, yeah. He goes, there's nothing like water.

And so I hadn't spoken to any human being for 40 years. Do you breathe? There's nothing like air. Do you breathe? Well, beer is like water in as much as both of them are liquids, right? And he went, right. And so I had them still light in the, I don't know. I found a pay booth in town and I called my brother Paul and was like, oh my God.

And then on day three, I had my meeting with him. Lauren saying right is one of the funny things that he always does. He should have been a game show host. And the answer is Toronto, right. And the answer is he could have been. The other one is with Rob Lowe, we have tried to get, when we have dinner with Lauren, we try to get it right really in a cool way. Did I tell you this the last time I was here? No, that's great. Right is it's boring.

really is something that is embarrassing and he's going to tell the next person that comes in the room and cool is now you have to leave so it's right really cool right and there's one more play one more i don't yeah you want to go in threes but exactly is when you're giving him information he may not have heard and then he claims that i guess so you know exactly exactly yeah i knew i knew

So we're watching a hockey game once with this kid. And when you've got a power play in hockey, you can't see the clock to see how much more of your power play you have. But the goalie watches. And when there's three seconds to go, he whaps his stick on the ground three times. One, two, three.

And his son said, why is he whapping the stick? And Lauren said, well, he's frustrated they haven't scored. And I said, well, no, actually, it's telling them they have three seconds to go because they can't watch the clock. And he went, I knew. And no, no, Lauren, if you had known, you would have said there was three seconds to go.

So you didn't know. But I didn't. I said, well, you know, it's both. It's both. Because I didn't want to embarrass them. The kids are all grown up now. And Chris would always say to David, because they had such a unique relationship, talk about don't tell Lauren. Yes. Don't tell Lauren. Yeah, grabs you really. David, don't. No.

Shh. No. But he loved Mike and Dana. Oh, boy. He would like, fuck, they're fucking killing, dude. He just couldn't believe he even knew you guys when he came on. Dude, Chris. Because it was overwhelming for all of us. Yeah, yeah. Super overwhelming. Got there and it's just going, oh, my God. Because you guys were running the tables and everyone was just excited to be in the show. He was in Wayne's World 1 and 2.

and cameos or whatever. I have his yellow security shirt from Wayne's World 2. His brother just gave me. Oh, really? That's so cool, dude. Isn't that crazy? Wow. I just got it two weeks ago. It's super cool. I miss Chris. I think about him all the time. And, you know, for me, there's a lot of Chris in Fat Bastard of the sort of, you know, my body's built for pleasure. Yeah.

you know and uh he's you know just trying to channel that uh brilliance you know what i mean and uh he was always very very nice to me and i know this is kind of sad super corny but he was super super nice to my mom that always meant a lot to me well he had a midwestern vibe about him and that is sort of humility and and and politeness and humbleness we got to talk to his mom

and brother and got to know a little bit about his childhood, but he did the party started when Chris came in the room. And if you'd say the mildest joke and he would sincerely just belly laugh so hard. And he shared one thing with you, Mike, he had more little superstitions about what he would touch. But I remember you had one that you wouldn't go on the main doors of eight, eight. You would just go. Everyone in the main doors. Yeah. Canadian flagpole at 30 rock.

Yes, Chris had a few of those things. I didn't know about the Canadian. Every time you came in, you went bump, bump, bump, and then you came in the wrong. Then I had to look at the number 22 on the lighting grid. And when I hosted, they gave me that number off the lighting grid, and it's on my front door now. Oh, cuckoo. Mike, on Tommy Boy, we were doing these. Black Sheep, too. When we do...

uh, he's, first of all, you guys know he's very religious. Yes. And so to combat his craziness, to scare him, he, before each take, he'd spread his legs kind of wide and then he'd pull up a pant leg on each side. Yes. Yeah. Before a take. And I go, and so I was getting so sick of it that one day I go, you know, Chris, you're asking the devil to come out of hell. Yeah.

And he goes, no, no. And I go, no. The good thing about the devil is I don't, he has to be invited into your life and you invite him. I don't invite him because I don't want the devil. And he goes, no, that's not what I'm doing. I go, you're knocking on the top of hell and pulling your leg and saying, come to me. And he goes, you shut the fuck up. Because he was so superstitious. And then it scared him. So he's like, tentative about it. So funny.

Toyota's national sales event is happening now, meaning it's a great time for a great deal on a dependable Toyota truck like the Tundra. Workhorse by nature, powerhouse by design combines raw capability with premium comfort and advanced tech to fuel your wildest adventures.

With the available i-Force Max hybrid powertrain, you can take electrifying horsepower farther than ever before. Or check out the fully designed Tacoma, delivering trail-dominating power and captivating style. The new Tacoma was born to make your off-roading dreams come true. And with new available tech, this legendary truck is getting even better.

Visit buyatoyota.com, the official website for deals. All new Toyotas come with ToyotaCare, a no-cost maintenance plan. See your dealer or visit buyatoyota.com for details. Let's go places.

Dana, the road to getting engaged can be long and full of memories. Oh, yeah. Or it can be short and thrilling or somewhere in between. But the road to finding the perfect engagement ring is straightforward path every time. All you got to do is head over to good old BlueNile.com. Good news, David, on BlueNile.com.

You can create a bigger, more brilliant piece than you can imagine at a price you won't find at a traditional jeweler. The original online jeweler since 1999, they've committed to ensuring that the highest ethical standards are observed when sourcing diamonds and jewelry. Their diamond price guarantee means that in most cases they can meet or beat a competitor's price on a comparable diamond.

Every Blue Nile order is insured and arrives in packaging that won't give away what's inside. In most cases, can be delivered overnight. You got 100% satisfaction guarantee. Guaranteed free shipping and returns. So you can make sure your ring is the one, the one you want.

And because you want that love to last forever, you get guaranteed service and repair on it for life. These are great deals. I got to say, you know, I mean, you just want to have that loved one pick up that box and go, honey, I don't know what this is. And then you say, well, maybe you should open it. Okay. And then you hear, oh my goodness. I love you. I love you. Blue Nile. She says, I love you to blue Nile.

Yeah, because it's such a nice ring. It's an unmarked thing, but then it says Blue Nile somewhere. Yeah. She goes, oh, you couldn't have. You wouldn't have spent that much. Oh, this has got to be a trick. This is too nice. Yeah, no. Right now, get 30% off. Select Lab Grown Diamonds on BlueNile.com. Plus, use code FLY, very important, to get $50 off your engagement ring purchase of $500 or more. What is it?

That's $50 off with CodeFly at BlueNile.com. BlueNile.com. Kevin Nealon, one of the funniest guys out there, had some overlap with Chris on the show. And we all know Kevin. And here's what he had to say.

Let me tell you something. There you are with the baseball cap and all dressed up. I don't know if I should say no. I have my keys. But of course, the keys are in the bathroom.

Is that real German? I know German. Or Austrian, right? You lived in Austria for a year, right, Kevin? I live with Hans, over there. Take your schlabbers lassen and make sure your wickeltuden ist tatscheladen. I got one. Emil ist oben. Hast du Bruder? Nein, aber ich habe zwei Schwestern.

That's, do you have any brothers? No, I have three sisters. You're like, well, it's not funny when I do it. The first time I saw Chris Farley, I remember I was in the hallway of Studio 8H and the elevator door opens up and out comes Farley. And he could not have looked more excited. He's taking those kind of Farley steps and he's pulling his pants up like Hollywood motivational speaker. And he looks at me.

you're kneeling you know and uh he walks down the hall he was like a kid in the candy store i forget who was with him maybe his brother or two of his brothers um gone maybe and and then we just kind of got to know chris we got to see how funny he was and how he would do anything for a laugh and it's almost like he always needed to have you laughing he wasn't he didn't feel like he was enough just by himself and uh i don't know where that came from but i blame his parents

And I blame you. Wasn't he also an explosive laughed laugher? He's a great laugher. Not even that funny. Yeah, he was good at that. And and he's around all these funny people. I think he did like it's always great when a comedian is also a laugher, you know, because.

It's very disarming when someone laughs at your shit. That's more fun. Everything's fun. Yeah. I just kind of nod because I don't want to give the other comedian confidence. Yeah. The worst is when somebody laughs. The worst is when a comedian laughs at his own jokes. That's kind of annoying because he's like a laugh track for you. He's letting you know where the laugh should be. Yeah.

The only thing I noticed about Farley was when he laughed or he's excited, he jerk his head. He jerk his head quick to one side or the other, or his head would go in like a turtle, you know? Yeah. His shoulders would go up. And yeah, but people loved him. They just loved, they could, they could feel his joy and his excitement, I think. And they were, they were there for the ride. And I know that you spent eight and, uh,

and Sandler and stuff, you know exactly how to egg them on. You could get them to do stuff, you know, and have them turn on even higher volume. Yeah. I love getting laughs. But talking about the, the, the, how he digressed in his, you know, being at Saturday night live. I remember he was in the hallway at Sandler's dressing room and I was coming out and he was,

kind of being really loud and stuff. And I said, Chris, take it down a notch, take it down a notch. And somehow we got into the discussion about Belushi, John Belushi, because, you know, as we all know, he wanted to be just like John Belushi. He wanted to emulate him. And unfortunately he did at the end, especially, but he said, well, you know, Belushi did a lot of drugs and drank and stuff. And I said, yeah, but,

Look at how much funnier he would have been without all that. And look at how much more alive he would be today. Really? Really? But I think things just didn't really sit in his head that long. He didn't really retain a lot of stuff that were kind of good advice for him. But I've never laughed harder than at the Chippendales dancer sketch with Farley. I've never broken character on that show.

But that was the one time I almost lost it. And I had to keep looking down at my clipboard because every time I looked up, that belly was sloshing back and forth like a pool on a boat. And then I'd look down at my clipboard and I'd look up again and I'd see all the stretch marks going back and forth. And...

I just had to look down and man, I was so relieved when it was over. For the people at home, Kevin was one of the three judges. Was it you, Jan Hooks maybe?

Yeah, it was like American Idol. We were sitting behind a table, a long table, and it was me, Jan Hooks, and Mike Myers with a clipboard. And Farley was auditioning to be a Chippendale dancer with just the bow tie on, the cuffs, no shirt and leather pants, auditioning against Patrick Swayze, who was, you know, total six pack. Perfect shape. Yeah. And Farley gave it his all and he was...

not going to walk away easily from his, um, from his loss. And he kept dancing after he realized he wasn't in. And we finally had to say, no, that's, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's over. No, no. Kevin, you're, you're so funny in that because it, those sketches need someone like you when you go, Barney, Barney, it's over. Like you're, you're so straight and Chris is kind of give eyeballs at you, like flirt with you, like,

Flirting with the judges. How about this? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

Because he was self-conscious. There's two camps in that, right? I think Bob Odenkirk has one thought on it. And Jim Downey did not think Chris was upset about it or felt humiliated by it. I never heard a word from Chris. I wouldn't think he would be because, you know, he just threw himself around. Like I said, he would do anything for a laugh. Kevin, do you remember at read-through, I can't remember, did he get up and do that?

I don't think so. Just so people know, we haven't mentioned this, but I don't know if you guys were there, but I don't know if it was a regular thing with Chris, but the writer's room on the 17th floor at 1 a.m. and there's these double doors, uh,

And it's where we have read through. And he just burst through and he was completely naked with kind of his legs crossed and giggling. You know, that was just Chris. So that's why I didn't think he'd be embarrassed about the Chippendale sketch because he knew he was moving in such a funny way and just crushing. So I would assume he was happy about that, but I never asked him. Well, he's always naked. He would always walk in a room and just pull his shirt off and pull his pants down. You go, what are you doing? And

And if Kevin, what about the move when he does something like that and you go, Lauren's really mad and he goes, what? And then he changes his whole demeanor and his head goes back and he goes, no, no, no, David, please don't, don't, no. Really? Yeah. Really? No, really. Or how about a read through, you know, where he sat over there,

uh, where you walk in and I didn't know about OCD. Cause when you walk in, we had shared that office, uh, and he walk in, he would flip the light on and off. And then when he left, he touched the ceiling twice or the top of the door jam. And I always thought he was doing it to be funny. And, and when he would go to read through when his was coming up, he'd pull his wallet out.

And he'd be staring at the script and he just casually lick each corner of each dollar bill and put it back in his wallet. And I, we didn't know what OCD was. And on Tommy boy, each take, he would lean over and pull up one side of his pant leg and then the other. And then, uh, and, but he didn't like, he wasn't seeing if anyone's looking, he was doing it. So, uh, just by rote, that's all he did. And, uh,

I finally, I didn't know, we didn't know what OCD was. It wasn't anything back then. So I think that's what it was looking back. Probably was. I mean, Mike had a mild form of that. I mean, I was walking with Mike to go 8-H through the double doors and then all of a sudden he just bolts left and goes, I don't go through the double doors. I don't know if that was for a particular season or whatever. Maybe it was more superstition than OCD. One of the things that really stands out for me with Chris was how,

agile he was and light on his feet and coordinated. Like we would play basketball over at Riverside park. And I was just astounded with how quick he was and just good with the fakes. And, you know, we even saw that in the skating rink at 30 rock when he was skating for one of those sketches, just how a good athlete he was, even though he was on the plus side, he was such a great athlete. Yeah.

was funny. That's even funnier because he was good. It's very surprising. Yeah. Yeah. Very athletic basketball. I don't know if, you know, I know he played rugby in college, I believe, and he was a lot lighter, but I wonder how, how,

disappointed he was at his body size because he really was a thin person inside that heavy body. Well, was it that, did he talk to you about this David where he didn't think he could be as funny if he got to more of a normal weight? He was scared that it was less funny unless you were fatter because, you know, I think when he got all the way to starting alive to the top in quotes, you know,

as that and every sketch, you know, they had a sketch called Whale Boy, you know, at Second City and that sounds a little rough, but you know, if you're that big and you think then it goes away, you know, something about it, you go, I can't lose it. But you know, when he passed away, I still have his Tommy Boy jacket here. His family gave it to me and it's on my wall and it's not that big. I mean, he was not

I think when he passed away, he was honestly a hundred pounds heavier than during Tommy boy. Uh, he just, last time I saw him really got big. Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. That was it. He just really got big, but he wasn't, he was bigger than me in Tommy boy, but I was probably 135 pounds. So it was a funny juxtaposition there, but in real life, he wasn't some super fat, you know? I remember the last time I saw him, I was at, uh, Brillstein, uh,

gray management company. We both have the same managers. That's a big floor up there. It's like the whole floor. And I was walking by one of the conference rooms and I saw Farley. His back was kind of behind me or side. I think he was smoking a cigarette and he had like a, I think it was like a pink Mohawk or his hair was dyed pink and he had a leather jacket on and he was kind of sweating. And I didn't say anything to him because he,

You know, I just, I, for some reason I didn't stop and say hi to him, but that was the last time I saw him. God, it's hard to, it's, you know, it's funny and it's sad. I don't, I don't remember. I don't think the last time I saw him.

I was in Aspen. Remember the HBO Comedy Festival? That's the last time I saw him. I sat next to him in that. It was the whole Saturday Night Live kind of reunion in Aspen. Like a reunion, yeah. Did you go to that one, Kevin? We were in Bleacher. I did. Yeah, I was there. Lauren and Chevy. We went to a dinner. So I see him and he comes over to go to a dinner. Like, let's say Steve Martin, Martin Short, Lauren. They're all having a big long table dinner. You guys might have been there. And they said, if you want to come down, we have two seats. And when Chris got to my room and picked me up,

He was too fucked up. And I was like, oh, we can't go to this thing. But he goes, we got to go. We got to go. And so we're walking down there. All I'm thinking is,

I hope it's like a cast party where everyone's just milling about and we can kind of blend in. But it was a sit down long table dinner and they had our seats toward the middle. So we had to scooch down by everyone and we're going to be trapped. And I go, Chris, keep going. We scooted down. We kept going, kept going out the other side. And then I took him to the kitchen. I go, let's go in the alley. I go, we can't stay there. We're not having a three hour dinner with all like our boss and all these famous people. We're going to get in trouble.

So we went out and then I went home and he found, you know, he finds people that I wouldn't hang out with, you know, and they're all like kind of sketchy. And he goes, I'm going to hang with these guys. I go, all right. So I went to lunch the next day and he's in line for this lunch place and he's with all these people, but they haven't gone to bed. So he's talking to me and his eyes are sort of going back in his head and he's trying to focus. And I go, did you go to bed yet? And he goes, not yet. And I go, oh, and then I think we got back to LA and that was sort of the beginning of

He lived near me, but we didn't see each other that much because he was always with a group of those guys, you know? And then it's, it's, it's not as fun for me because he's, he's either wasted or I don't want to hang with these guys. They're all sketch. And then you just get the news one day and I'm like, oh my God. Yeah. But I don't remember. You weren't very close to him. You weren't close to him near the end. Well, I mean, the last couple of months it was, I ran into him and we had read this movie called the tree and,

And that was going to be maybe our next movie. And then he did Ninja and something else. And I just happened to run into him and he goes, Hey, everyone just talks about Tommy boy. Uh, we got to do another one. This is stupid. What are we doing? Cause we weren't really fighting. We just were both doing our own thing. And, and he said, did you read the tree? And I said, yeah, I think that might, that might be a good one. And he goes, yeah. And then it never happened because it was just a few months later. So, um,

But, but yeah, we were on, our terms were fine. It was just really the crowd he's with. I thought it would be a fail. Yeah. I think, I think a lot of people like to latch on to someone that popular like that. And Chris may not have been that astute to the ass kissing that was going on. And he was getting so much praise and attention from them. It felt good. I'm not a therapist, but that's my, that's my thing.

You know, when you walk down the street in New York and people like Nealon, Carvey, you know, they're eating outside. And when they'd go, they'd go, hey, you know, Spade, have a drink. You know, they're just sitting right next to you and you walk by. Hey, guys, if anyone said have a drink when we were walking together, he would stop and drink or he'd walk around and go sit. They go, hey, sit with us. And then he would. And they're like, oh, my God, he's actually doing it. Oh, hey, scoot over. And then he would just drink. And I go, all right, I'm going to take off because it was.

just crazy fans that were slapping his back and uh you know no cameras back then or that would have been insane but just like grabbing him and he got drunk with everyone and i go uh so you could just see it he got so famous and he was so fun and i was lucky to hang out with him and my friends always like oh bring him bring him he's so fun he would leave messages for my friends and their voicemails and they'd fucking dial out you know it's great so that's that's the tough part if you don't

That's hard for all of us to get through, you know, all the temptations. Yeah. Yeah. You become a windup doll. Let's get the famous comedian high. And then, you know, yeah, they want to be the one to be funny. And, you know, so also Dana, when he, when he's in rehab, he, I'm sorry, Kevin, but when he's in rehab, he's,

Everyone still wants to get him wasted. He's an AA and no one gives a fuck. They want to be the ones that are with him when he got fucked up, even when he wasn't supposed to. There's something weird about that. That's devious. Yes, Kevin? I sometimes wonder what he would be doing now if he were still alive. Would he be like a huge...

movie star doing all these crazy films and you know what films would he have done instead of other people that you know prospered from it and or would he still would he be cancelled you know would he be somewhere in another job or something yeah road less traveled I don't I don't know you know but Dana wonders how fat he'd be I weigh everybody I think about celebrity net worth and actual weight and

In the days of my thousand pound sisters, barley weighed about 250, you know, it's like,

They're like, this guy was obese. And you're like, he really wasn't. I mean, I've seen there's we've made bigger since. Harvey always checks out the celebrity net weight. Yeah. It's right next to worth. You just put worth and you go right back to weight. And then I go celebrity lean mass versus body fat percentage. That takes a little longer. I checked you guys earlier today and I'll email you the results.

This has been a podcast presentation of Cadence 13. Please listen, then rate, review, and follow all episodes. Available now for free wherever you get your podcasts. No joke, folks. Fly on the Wall has been a presentation of Cadence 13, executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Chris Corcoran of Cadence 13, and Charlie Finan of Brillstein Entertainment. The show's lead producer is Greg Holtzman with production and engineering support from Serena Regan and Chris Basil of Cadence 13.