Chloe Fineman
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Yes, I have actually stayed at Airbnbs from time to time. And truth be told, I do really like them. I'm being totally honest right now that I've had great experiences with them. Yeah. I mean, you can have your look at you go get your own place, get your own pool, your own living room. You're not going to walk in an elevator. You're not going to see people when you're walking around in your undergarments. Yeah.

Yes. And if you don't understand what we're talking about, you should go online. What we're saying is you have a house with a kitchen and a bathroom and it's just for you, tailored for you. You liked your Airbnb over a hotel. Yes. And I do think I've had relatives stay nearby and sometimes it's very nice for them to do an Airbnb and have a little house and they're not underfoot. The last thing you want is your house guest to say, excuse me, um,

Where would I find a towel? That's a toughie when it's... Because they're naked? Well, it's like the 1800th time you say, on the towel rack. Yeah. Thank you. Oh, I was going to look there. People don't even think hotels sometimes just go, hey, I'll go there, I'll get an Airbnb. So you won't regret it. You know, Dana, I think we have a connection. We've been friends for a long time. And for this episode of Fly on the Wall, we've partnered with eHarmony,

which isn't us. eHarmony is a dating app to find someone you can be yourself with. We are not dating. I want to clarify that. But the connection is what you want in a dating partner. Just someone like, if you found someone that listened to this podcast, that's somewhat of a connection. And then you sort of build on that. You want someone with some common ground. Yeah. It's not, look, if you want to connect romantically over, you know, super fly or fly on the wall, yeah.

It just makes us happy. You don't want to be watching The Godfather and the person next to you goes, this movie sucks. So dumb. Yeah. You want to connect on all issues and harmonize in life. Similar sensibility, similar sense of humor, and similar sense of sense. I don't like when they watch The Godfather and they're like, everyone in this movie is so old. I'm like, they're 40.

Watch 2001 Space Odyssey. Too much of this movie is in outer space. I don't like it. When do they land? When do they land? Why is that stupid red light acting so silly? Who's friends with a robot? We know dating isn't easy. That's why we partnered with eHarmony because dating is different on eHarmony. They want you to find someone who gets you, someone you can be comfortable with.

Yeah. I mean, the whole idea is you're going to take a compatibility quiz, helps your personality come out in your profile, which makes all the profiles on eHarmony way more interesting and fun to read. So I think this is the goal of dating sites, and I think eHarmony does it great. It's just finding somebody you're compatible with.

So get started today with a compatibility quiz. So you can find some and you can be yourself with. Get Who Gets You on eHarmony. Sign up today. Chloe Fineman coming up. About time. Yeah, it's nice. We enjoy getting current cast members involved.

on our podcast. It's very interesting to hear what's going on right now at 8-H in New York City. She was about to do the Dua Lipa show. She had to do an impression of Dua Lipa. We talk a lot about how you go about learning an impression. She and Dana gave us some pointers of how it comes from being assigned an impression or you come up with your own impressions and how tricky that is. She will talk about

how she got Timothy Chalamet. Oh yeah, she does him. And she does a very good, and she finds little hooks. She's a gifted, she is a gifted impressionist, but she's also,

An actress and a great sketch player. She has a lot of great stuff on that show. And she's blowing up, as they say. She's blowing up. We talked about what advice Lauren gives her, what Lauren gave us. Lots of funny stuff. She was very loose and fun. I didn't know really much about her personality because I just see her on the show. But great to get to know her. We had a lot of laughs. And we cracked up a lot. I really had a great time talking to her. Yeah, definitely. That's another...

Another charming young lady joined us. And, you know, we spent a lot of time asking about what people are saying about us in 8-H currently. It's always fun. And she was fascinating and adorable. She's a really, really sweet, lovely person. Yeah. Here she is, Chloe Fineman. That dog isn't scheduled till Friday. That dog has no SAG card. Get it out. Come on.

Okay, Chloe, I have a character, a new character for you. No, no, no. A person trying to get on Zoom with technical voices coming in. Go to AR7. Do you see a blue dot? No. Do you see a big yellow button in the corner? And like some sort of Roman numerical numbers in the upper left hand. It looks like a kaleidoscope. All right, let's click out and try again. We've been through this for years.

It's very common. Martin Short took 45 minutes. Did he really? Okay, that makes me feel wonderful. I was kind of giving it, but I think a half hour. Okay. And I took 10 minutes. And I'm... That's...

Yeah. That's fine. Are you guys in LA? That factors out. So Southern California undisclosed location. Okay. I don't need PAPs in my life. Like, like I'm really, really getting followed a lot.

So you're in the white hot world of Saturday Night Live and you're living in Manhattan. Yeah. Wow. Zooming from the kitch. Did you live in New York before or spend time in New York before you got SNL? I did. Did you ever live in Northern California? Oh, yeah. No, I'm from San Carlos and you're from Piedmont. Yeah, Berkeley.

is what I tell people. Is Piedmont next to Copeland? Piedmont is a really, really nice place. I've done it. Yeah. My brother lives there. But the name kind of sucks. Does he really? Piedmont right now. Really? That's insane. Yeah. Is it next to Copeland or not? Oakland. Oh, I get it. God damn. I'll say it one more time. I'm not going to walk you through all of them.

You can only use that joke when someone near Oakland is on the podcast. My driver. I went to see my brother. Of course, I have a driver. And he goes, welcome to Coakland. I'm like, what? That's new. I keep track of these Coakland jokes. That's David's seventh. Coakland. Within four minutes. Wow. No, it was more of a marijuana place growing up. I grew up in Berkeley. And then in high school, I moved to Piedmont.

Berkeley is pretty cool. Yeah, cooler. The first time I lived in New York, I was like doing something. Anyway, I was like 25, 26 and had never been to New York. So I just wondered you'd lived there before and then you get back and now you have the coolest job you can have in New York, probably. Yeah, I went to college here. So I've been here in the West Village for like over almost 20 years.

That wasn't on your research, was it? Okay. My first 20 minutes, I got to tear up. No, no, no. Yeah, I went to school here. So I've been here since I was like 18. I'm 35. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

And did you ever walk by Rockefeller Center? You knew that's where SNL was and kind of go, huh? I had a really exhausted roommate who was an intern. She was like a page and she was so tired, but so happy. That was the only knowledge of it. I went to like drama school, so I thought I would do like Shakespeare. Yeah.

I never thought I would see here. Can you give us a little Shakespeare? What's the ultimate Shakespeare? Robin Williams did a lot of, he was doing Shakespearean stuff and he always had one leftover Shakespearean thing. He wouldn't use the mic, but he was just being Ron Williams. Oh, look, the moon, it hangs low like a testicle in the sky. Like that was, he did that a thousand times. A little bit of a hybrid. Yeah. Yeah.

Is this a dagger I see before me? Is this a penis I see before me? Come, let me clutch thee. Here we go. Clutch. Not too hard. Common problem. If the mic went down, Robin would always go, oh, common problem. He had so many. We love him. So what else do you want to talk about, Sarah? Sarah Sherman. Oh, we know your little doofy buddy, Sarah. Yeah, my little freakazoid pal.

How is, I want to ask you that you did the Paramount. She hit me up and said, we're doing the Paramount after you. And I was like, look at these girls within minutes. They're doing the same theater I'm doing after I've been sweating and slugging it away for 50,000 years. And then I think it probably sounded like fun, but how does that happen with you two? And then what do you do? That's a good, you know, we're very different, but it works. Yeah.

um yeah two i think we're obviously sarah's like extremely disgusting and nauseating and there was like a 30 minute slideshow of a of like a vagina prosthetic that louis was mad at her that he didn't get to make and it is so disgusting and then i come out and i do my impressions but i make them orgasm so it's like this it's like a

rated x yeah yeah i try and fit it it's an after dark kind of show you have your crossover audience from snl and so it's more potent and then it would be like me and dana going out it's like people that like it go oh if they like one they'll take the other or they like you both you know that's always fun and it sounds like it's a very intriguing show that i would see for sure i think it sounds just fun because i don't know what it is right so people just want to go because

You're both good and you're both funny. So that's a good start. And also your personas, we're just meeting you now, which is fun. And Sarah is sort of sweet. I don't know. You're not like kind of...

And then when you're working blue, it has this energy to it. You don't expect it. Two nice little Jewish perverts coming out. Yeah. It was good. Yeah. I saw when we did, Chloe, the...

I used to work at the show too. When we did the whatever Sandler's tour and then she was on a couple with me. Yeah. It was so funny because I didn't know her at all. And then she was actually super easy to talk to. Super fun. She's very magnetic personality. She's very sweet. And then she gets out. I don't know her act at all. Then she's like, New York. Where's my New Yorkers? Sticks the mic out and then they kind of go, eh, there's a couple here. All right. What about that pizza? How about the garbage? Yeah.

And then now they've stopped applauding. What about abortions? What about that? And she goes on for another 19 times around the side going, yeah, now I love it because she doesn't give a fat fuck at all. No, no. She did a lot of chilling abortion material in Texas. Yeah. Big abortion chunk.

It is great. That's awesome. And you got to follow it. I'd be backstage going, I'm up there going, should I do 7-Eleven and McDonald's? If your orgasm, as your impressions, which are really stout and steep. Yeah, I want to hear a few of those, by the way. Dog hear that. Which one, just to get the, which one kills the artist? Which one do they eat up? You know, it's different. It's different every place. Um,

I've been doing it for years. I'm always like, God, this is so hack. But, you know, not everyone. I'd say like Drew Barrymore starts strong. They all do pretty good. And then I think I do way too many than I should. People get, then they're kind of like laughing just to be nice.

In Texas, the Ted Cruz orgasm does better. Yeah. Yeah, there's like some old, like an old Melania Trump one. I do them all. I just do them all. Oh, you do? Do you do Melania? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Of course. Did I say it right? I think so. Yeah. Melania. Melania. Melania. Yeah. I know what we're talking about. And do you do, I've seen you do...

men, is it harder or is it, is there any difficulty to do men? I can do like beautiful boys. I think like a boyish, a beautiful boyish man is much easier. Real, real men. Um, no, I think they're so hard. Harry Styles. I remember like doing in front of Harry Styles at the show and I bombed so badly. Horrible horse. Was it on air? Was it?

No, no, no. And like he was like looking at me in disgust. But yeah, doing it. And I and I most of the men I do, I happen to do it in front of them. And it's not great. Timothy Chalamet is kind of your I mean, he's he's so huge right now. Yeah. The only one who.

Yeah, it doesn't. There it is. Yeah. Yeah. But he's nice about it. You can tell it's I don't know. I'm like a lot older than I just feel like this like weird older woman just like obsessed with these little boys. He's very kind about it. But it's hard not to. I don't know if you have this where you like slip into the slip into the voice when you're around the person. No.

No. Cause you're sort of mimicking, you're picking it up as you go. Probably. Yeah. And they give you all these get like, yeah, he was totally, totally great at that. Well, uh, we're, you know, sister brother from another mother. Yeah. With your Timothy, uh,

You, yeah, you find, you find these rhythms and hooks and then they really help you get in. It's like, what's that sound you just made as Timothy? Yeah. It was like listening to a lot of interviews. This was like before he became huge. I started working on him and it was like, you know, growing up in New York. Yeah.

You're growing up in New York as an actor. You're kind of like rhythmically like... And then he laughs. Yeah, and that's it. Yeah. Just like a 19-year-old billionaire. He's like the most famous guy. They don't give a shit. That's why he doesn't get mad. You're in that mold where you're accurate, but you're also an abstractionist. You're making it into a character. I tried to. I think that's like...

After hearing, like, Lauren will talk about other people. You know, I don't know if he does that to you, where he talks about other people to kind of have you glean insight into yourself. And he'd always talk about you or Fred. Yeah.

And not being, having a take. Yeah. Not being like, so it's not like a biopic. Right. It's just sort of a, it's, it's only, it's probably going to get laughs. Sorry, Dan. It's probably going to get laughs. Meanwhile, I'm the guy that doesn't do impressions, but it gets more laughs when I watch you or Dana. You do do an impression. You just did it. I show your little, yeah, but I show your little lord. I show your little lord.

God damn. I thought it would take you before you had a Lauren like day one or. Yeah. I think as soon as I sat across from the first time I met him, I was like, Oh, this is never leaving. Um,

The first thing he asked, when you have to like meet him, he was, I'm from the Bay Area. And he was like, are your parents hippies? And then that was. I like when he talks nothing about like you're auditioning for the show. Come in, come in, wait five hours. And then you come in. He's like,

do you like baseball? You're like, what? It's just something, nothing about show business or anything. I just like to get a feel. He told me once I go, Lauren, I'm looking for an apartment. What are you up to, David? He's totally bored with nothing else to do. And I'm like, oh, and then he goes, sit down and I'll make some calls. And then he goes, when he's done with the calls, he goes, what's going on with you?

basically like, are you still on the show? So I go, yeah, yeah. And I go, yeah, I'm looking for an apartment, but I'm a little torn because one's like upper west side and one's like lower upper west side, but one was a little more expensive. And he goes, it's important where you live.

I know he's right. And I think it's more of the price point. Yes. Wait, the thing he said to me, which is why I'm always like, which is why we're trying to do these paramount shows as much as possible. He was like, yeah, always want to live in a place. You can't quite afford. Oh, it's very close to what he said to me. Exactly. It's very important. So it is money's not a problem. And I'm like, is it though? I think it is.

Yeah. Do you have you been in like, OK, you're on 8H and Lauren's office is on the ninth floor and there's glass. I'm painting a picture for listeners. And then you see the rehearsal down there and you're up there hanging out with them talking about something.

And then in his own incredible Lauren way, you know, Kevin's going through that, you know, it's the second season. And where is this? You know, he psychoanalyzes not in a very sweet way, not mean, but you always wonder what he says about you when you're down there. I'm so terrified. I have very close friends who are writers on the show and they just will not tell me. Yeah.

And I know it's awful and would never get out of my head. What Chloe's... She's kind of stuck in a...

And then you're like, what? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But then I feel like when he talks about other people and maybe it's that crazy making, but you're like, is he trying to say something about me? You know, where it's like, well, show and show is, you know, if you're doing the same thing you did in your first year and your fifth year, it's time to go, you know, and you're hard not to be like. Yeah. It's hard to take it constructively and move on.

Yeah. One time he said to me, any, anything new or are you pretty much played out? I,

Bush senior and Bush junior have another baby. There might be another third one to do. Yeah. And it does kind of scare you. I mean, I was, this is an eighties, early nineties. I'd worry about the show. Cause he'd get me worried. And I'm like, it's summertime. And I'm like, yeah. And you're also killing as well, you know, but I got remarkably the same. Chloe, I have one. He told me this is the last thing we'll talk about. He said, he goes, uh,

I see you on a lot of talk shows. I go, he goes, anything to add to that? And he goes, well, they can't miss you if you don't go away. Ooh, that's a good one. That's a lot of talk shows. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Hey, it's like doing commercials. And I think he was saying in general with celebrities, uh,

do a movie, lay low. That was actually the old school now. Yeah. Now it's podcast. But, you know, just go away. But that doesn't work anymore. You can't go away. There's no way to do it.

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Visit roberthaff.com today. Back to Chloe's. Back to Chloe. Her pee foul. I'm trying to. Oh. Chloe, what's a pee foul? Gosh, that was a. Is it a peacock? Yeah, yeah. It's like.

Uh, maybe that was my first impression. Yeah. We had a bird calling contest at my weird high school. Uh, and then we were flown and went on David Letterman when I was like 15. Fucking sweet. And he was kind of dirty. Yeah. Yeah. He said, or we were dirty. We didn't know we were, we were said something about like feeling your inner bird, but you were like these like 15 year old girls. It was weird, but it was on TV. And was that dirty? I don't know. He was like, Whoa. Uh,

I think I saw that. You saw her doing her pee foul? Yeah, I remember the bird call thing and it sounded... Just do it again because it's reminiscent. I must say... All the way from the right. Ah!

I have to get up? No, no. The way they do it in the high school is like you kind of put on like sketch. It's like you do bird sketch. You like develop a skit. Right. My friend and I did like

Some like arsenic and old, I don't know, these two old British ladies. And then the bird call happens. And so the people who win the bird calling contest ultimately, I feel like, have not hellishly bad sketch comedy. That's great. You know, I do one. Watch this. This is birds in the morning. God, I'm not hitting the high one. Wait, your sound went out. You do really quiet birds. It's beautiful. I play it. Wait, what's the other one? Oh, here's a bird flying away. Ready?

you know i could fit right in to your high school no you totally you know the easiest one was someone if you like grab your throat for turkey it's like that's like that's early first year yeah when you're when you're a little kid and you're uh you're seeing people on tv doing what you're doing now do you remember that feeling or the

And then you're actually doing it. It's kind of cool. I mean, did you, I'm trying to think of your age group, like who blew your mind when you were 10 years old? Well, we, I mean, you, you guys certainly did. We had a, I'm older. So we had VHS, like best of VHS tapes that I watched in my reruns. Yeah, no, no. They were like compilation tapes.

Yeah.

But I've been watching it since I was like, I have a video of me as a toddler in Berkeley and the Coneheads are playing in the background. You know, it's just forever. Love the Coneheads. And was your dad an actor or? My dad is an improv guy. No, he's in biotech. Oh, okay.

I just thought maybe. My mom is a painter and my dad, when my mom was pregnant with my sister, would take me to improv at Fort Mason in San Francisco. And there were a lot of Robin Williams friends. Her. Her. And I would go to this class with Rob Schneider would take this drop-in class. Yeah. And then I would do it as a...

A little kid. And then he retired like, I don't know, 10 years ago. Now he goes twice a week. Once on Saturday in San Francisco and then in Marin and Mill Valley on Wednesdays with my mom. Mill Valley? Yeah. Yeah.

Schneider's from Half Moon. I have a house there. Do you? Okay. I believe you and I might have at one point had the same doctor in the movie. Whoa. He would show you the other guy's x-rays. Huh. I'll bring it up offline. I don't know. I had a weird doctor who claimed to do you or do your doctor stuff. Oh, really? You should see. Here's some clips of Dana's colonoscopy. Exams.

I have a doctor. I still have an MD in San Francisco. Oh, no. Is this boring you, David? I'm sorry. Dr. Major. No, it is. But Dana also, when he calls in for his prescriptions, his secretary goes, oh, no, I need your address. Oh.

Well, no, it's I call in for the same prescription every 30 days. She's very sweet. You want to do what? Oh, yeah. I mean, the same one I did last month.

I'm going to have to talk to the doctor. And then 30 days later, hi, it's Dana, same prescription, same pharmacy. Oh, you want to do what? Well, don't a lot of people call for prescriptions? Oh, yes. But so what was it? I have a Chloe question. Yeah. Why? I have more of my nurse impression. Oh, oh,

I love it. She goes, oh, she's confused. Oh, you have a question for our guests? Well, first of all, she's into fashion. I wonder if this green pops on Zoom. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay, that's one. Definitely. And that's from someone who has an Instagram where there's like always like, it's funny to see you go from serious, funny Chloe, then you're like serious, like knockout, like

Like blue seal. That's good. I won't bore you with that, but also Nicole Kidman. I did a comment on one of yours. Instagrams because the way you say no is so funny. And I was trying to relive it with letters, but how is the proper way to say no? No. It's kind of NAR. I think it's like N U U U U U U U A A A E E E E R R NAR.

No. No. It was so fun. I mean, do you try to do these impressions or do they sometimes just come to you? Like, do you seek out, okay, I'm going to do a Nicole Kidman. Sometimes at SNL it helps if you're assigned someone and you're like, okay, I got to try to learn it. Yeah. No one else does Nicole Kidman or is anyone else? Not really. I feel like most,

Except for Keith Urban. Yeah, yeah. You cornered the market. I think I have weird taste. I just like...

I don't know. Meryl, like I auditioned with like Meryl Streep, Nicole Kidman, Greta Gerwig. Like I just really like. Greta Gerwig? Yeah, that was like. Greta Gerwig? That's a new one. That was the only thing he laughed at in my audition. I heard him chuckle. What was your take on her? Yeah. It's just like. Greta Gerwig. Her like, oh, yes, yes. And she talks and, you know, these little, yes, like shapes and gestures, you know.

Yeah. That's funny if you didn't even know who it was.

I just remember it's usually like I get inspired, I guess, when people win awards. Like there's like them on talk shows you get a lot. But I think when someone's like having like an emotional thing happen, I guess like winning an Oscar. I just find it so funny. Like Greta Gerwig was like, yes, yes, there's women. Yes, yes. Like they're hyperventilating. That's how I got my. Frances McDormand was like, OK.

I'm hyperventilating. Okay. You know, like inclusion writer. But like she had a hyperventilating. I don't know. That's usually when they come to me. I don't really seek them out. It just makes me laugh so hard. About award shows and what you're talking about. Does it feel like sometimes...

They'll win the Oscar like Frances McDormand, and then they'll come up and they're exactly the character. Like she's this tough, kind of alpha woman. And sometimes maybe to win an Oscar, you're just go super far away from the character so that when you get up there, you're like, you're like talking like this, or you're playing some street hood or something. Just an observation. Go.

This is like every acting class I was ever in. You're crying, you're alone, you're Italian. Go. Go. Go. Yeah, she's an...

I want to fan out on some of these. Okay, we've already done those, which I love. Reese Witherspoon, which is like just a sound kind of. Uh-huh. It was like I was watching her on Oprah and the way she said Oprah made me laugh. She was like, I'm on Oprah. And she was like, I'm on murder. The way she said murder really killed me. It's like, so I get her throat. Anyway, it's like, I mean, okay.

I guess when I do, everything is ultimately a bird call, I realize. Yeah, really. Yeah, kind of how I sound. Jennifer Coolidge is just so interesting. You do that, right? You must. No, I don't. Who, Dana Froese? Did I freeze? Keep going, Chloe. Almost in a Jennifer Coolidge way.

You can go. Yeah. Oh, I mean, everyone I know has been doing that impression since we were like 10. Because we grew up American Pie. Oh, that's right. Yeah. But Lauren likes Greta Gerwig because I think when you come on SNL, I only had one impression, but if you come on and do something that hasn't

Been done. Well, yeah. Like walk-in is at this point, but to do early walk-in was great. Like I didn't do it, but when you saw, we saw him, I think Jay Moore, there was some back in the day. I'm like, Oh my God. Cause you don't see it. And then you see it and you go, Oh, it's so clear. Totally. It's good to find those. And so if you see somebody new, that's great.

Yeah. I also find, I think it was when I was like auditioning, there were, it was like, don't do Drew Barrymore. Don't do Jennifer Coolidge. Don't do Christopher Walken. Just stay away. But then I ended up doing Drew Barrymore just because I thought mine was really good. I was like, yeah. But I do think that that's fun. And if I see people do like,

God, I saw someone do like Rosamund Pike the other day. And I was like, that's awesome. Like that. It's exciting, you know? Yeah. Cause it's not someone who's overexposed. So then you really have to go, Oh, then you go, Oh, that's it.

Totally. Totally. Yeah. I'm lazy. I find it hard. I find it, if I make a goal of doing an impression, it's kind of a bad feeling when you first start and you don't have it at all and you're just doing it to yourself in a room and you have no, you're horrible. I can't do it at all.

It's really weird. How do you do it? You just, what's your process? Sorry. It's that. No, it's totally that. I mean, I remember, and now I feel like once you've done enough of them, I feel like in a weird way, they all sound the same. And so you're like, I'm not,

- You're starting with the same voice, your own voice and it's hard to make it so different every time. - Yeah, it was easy when I was like alone in LA. Like Chalamet was really bad at first, but I had like the luxury of just kind of being like sad and alone in my hot apartment with no air conditioning. I don't know, like that was,

And then I was doing stuff at UCB and the Groundlings at the time. And the worst one I've ever done, and I still can't get it, was Lena Dunham. It was like for a UCB show. And I think it was like, if they sound a little too close to your own, to my voice, it's like, I can't, my brain just like doesn't know what to do. Yeah.

Right. Also, I don't think people, maybe they know when they're listening, but a lot of it is also not just you. It's a writer knocking at your door at like 1am on Tuesday going, Hey, can you do a Sydney Sweeney? Cause we got to do another machine. You're like, Oh, Oh, tomorrow. Okay. And then you just have to kind of go, all right, I got to find something and then a funny wig. And then, you know, things could help it a little bit, but you've got to, uh, you got to be ready when you get assigned someone in the sketch.

I do feel like if I'm really stuck, laughs are such an in. Oh. Yeah. Mouth, the way their mouth, what their mouth is doing and their laughs. Anyway, that was that for me. Your mouth can move around a lot. No, it's funny and interesting. Like you're, okay, so you do all these impressions and everybody knows it. And then you're doing characters. And you kind of, in a way,

You don't want to be couched as like people today. It doesn't really matter to me at this point. Oh, you're the impressionist guy. Well, I go, what about church lady Garth and Hans and Franz? They go, oh, so, you know, inventing Chloe, just you as an actress. Oh, this is my new character. You want to do what? I'm going to have to talk to Lorne.

But I just thought inventing Chloe was such a cool and Piper Dunster. And I feel like someone who has an ear and can do these things can also, of course, do all these other things.

It's just, it's on demand on Saturday night lives. There's a lot of demand for celebrity impressions. So yeah. For someone with your biggest payoff talent. Yeah. I feel like all of us kind of, you know, you like find the thing that you can get on the show in your first year or two, Sarah, disgusting, uh, me, Sarah's like prosthetics, brilliant. And then I was like impressions. And then, you know, you're like, okay, this is like my life raft. Um,

Um, but now that I'm in my fifth year, like I don't really get on that many this year. I don't know. It's, it's nice that we can stretch ourselves. Like keep coming up. Yeah. You go. Sarah's like guys, nobody do a six foot tall vagina this week. Cause I'm doing it. Okay. Is that like an update? Yeah. But Sarah says that like Sarah's done like amazing characters this year and like he's awesome pre-tapes and, um,

I kind of really focused on pre-tapes for like back like last year and the year before that was like the thing and I've done a lot more live. I don't know. It's cool. You can really like stretch yourself at the show. What was the character you did a pre-tape with during COVID where you had a short blonde wig and then you played both parts? Uli.

Yeah. And then you were, and she was living with you and then you had to film. Did you have to do that all yourself or not? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My boyfriend. All the filming? Yeah. He was in the other room working on a Quibi show wanting to absolutely murder me the whole time. RIP. RIP. Homes.com knows that when it comes to home shopping, it's never just about the house or condo. It's about the home.

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A water bottle? I have a notion. I don't know what it is, but when I think of you as an actress and wanting to really commit, there's something in my head here that it's you and Sarah, probably presentational, like some sort of

science uh symposium to high school kids or something and there's little volcanoes and goo and sarah starts to make sexual innuendos and you just get really really mad like you accelerate to i will fuck you up you know basically without saying that if you do that one you take her aside yeah i just think you letting go with that kind of anchor on

anger on her doing her thing. You write it yourself, but just the rhythm of that, I see you being so funny in that character. We were talking when... We want to go again. It was Sarah's first year and we got the PDD boys to stay up until like 5 in the morning writing this sketch where

where we were like, we were kids. We were sisters who had come home trick-or-treating. We were covered in chocolate like on a sugar high. And it was Jason Sudeikis and him and Heidi were like realizing they were going through a divorce. And we kept like interrupting being like, I don't know. And it was the hardest bomb ever. The 2DD guys were like, that's the worst sketch we've ever done. And she and I haven't written since. We haven't done anything since.

like it's so really yeah we gotta get over we realized that in austin like i haven't ridden with the pdds since this candy thing it's like really you bought yourself a year can you get eye contact in the hallway oh yeah we like love each other i just was like god and it was so long i think everyone's forgotten but sometimes when you when you bomb that badly it's like hard to recover a bit

Well, what if you're at science fair and you're in high school? This is more of a sketch because it's a little drier. She goes, it's like the volcano is coming. And then you go, can I talk to you for a second? Same kind of thing. You pull her aside and go, what are you? I want to see you escalating getting angry, you know, like hair, a frizzy wig. I just feel like that. I'm going to fuck you up. Basically, I don't know. Do the PDD guys write their own stuff? Now you have to do all the work.

No, I think it's great. Where do they take your suggestions? No, they... Yeah, they work really well with the cast, and then they do their own stuff. Jake... So can you write one for them? Oh, no. No, they would never do that. Although there's a writer, Jake Nordwind, who pitched... He pitched something to them, and it didn't go. But, you know, they're open to... There's a lot of... Like, today's Monday, so...

When I get to work, everyone will be in Mike DiCenzo and Jake's office or PDD's office. And they all kind of like give each other ideas in a way. Right. Who's the host? Dua Lipa. Oh, nice. Yeah. Who's the music? Dua Lipa.

Who's going to be in most of the sketches? There's a lot of doubles lately. I don't know if I love it. There's a lot of duas. Get it? That was so bad. Yep. I'm going to do it all week.

I used to be a licensed therapist. Oh, I didn't know that. So where are you? You're five years in. You're doing great on the show. You have all your buddies there. You're in the trenches with everybody. Yeah. What's your what is your headspace like? Are you feeling like because some people like Eddie Murphy day one, they're like at a 10 as far as comfort there in your fifth season. Are you feeling good, excited or you're still excited?

Like, where are you at? Where are you at? Where are you at? I mean, we only have three shows left, so I definitely, and it's 80 degrees in New York. So it's definitely that like senior vibe. I also think senior items a little bit. There's also, I

I remember there's like those life rafts you need in a year, you know, like you need enough things to hit to feel like you're not getting fired. I still, I mean, because I knew people in their fifth year who did get let go, you know, so it never goes away. It's a common feeling. Yeah. And I think now I'm kind of like, well, so-and-so needs to like making sure enough people need wins. Although that's just what other writers have said. They're like, I'm not going to write with you. They say wins. I never even heard that. You know, just something that they make their mark.

Really? No, it makes sense. Hits, yeah. They were like, you've had a good run. You've had a couple doubles, but not a home run lately. Yeah, yeah. They're like, I need to help. Because when you reach out to writers, like, I'll try and help you with this, but I need to help so-and-so get a hit. It is hard to ask a writer. I would ask Smigel or I'd ask Conan, and they're like, they're already busy with something. It's hard to go, hey, knock, knock. I have a dog shit idea that's not formed at all. Yeah. Did you spend...

uh, three hours cracking the code with me to make it a C plus. Yeah. Yeah. We're busy. No, I have a lot of like, I don't know. I, I'm not as like brazen about writing. Like I'm like, I have to have, I hate wasting their time. And like, I'm the most nervous on the show. Just like,

in terms of like letting writers down and the fears that they won't want to work with me again. Cause that is like the only way to survive the show. And so I, yeah, I don't really care about if the sketch, I guess I only care about like, well, these people help me write it. And if they cut it, those people aren't going to write with me again. You know? So like that is a big part of it. And, and having enough. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And it is that thing of like, I can waste this writer's time for like two hours trying to crack my horrible idea or I can just like whisper alone until I somehow have an idea. I've gotten better with the, I don't like,

suffocate writers to help me. I don't know. If I don't have something, I'll be like, I'm going to, I'm just going to sleep on this and not like ruin someone's real. I don't want to ruin relationships. You just gave me a sense memory of like Tuesday night at 2 AM. I know. And you're in a room with a writer and everyone's just like this.

And the idea is the souffle is just deflated. It's just like five minutes of no talking. And then like, maybe if Farley could come in. Fall to the ceiling and save it. It's horrible. No one is laughing. Everyone's like bloodshot eyes. And it's like, well, Keenan could enter. Keenan's our go-to. Yeah, 100%.

Yeah. Right. Keenan is so articulate and so clear and has such a strong voice. And he has like a mischievous vibe about him. Like he's not breaking, but you clearly see he's enjoying it. By the way, I just want to ask you. He really held together that beavers and buttheads. I was going to ask you about the beavers and buttheads because I know you came in at the end, I think. Yeah. And so I thought because...

Ryan Gosling is such a huge star and his attitude. He's, he's kind of breaking the whole show, but it's so entertaining. Yeah. Cause people, but that's, that's kind of a famous show and now a famous sketch of the most broke, broken. So just speak to your, from your point of view. I mean, it was, well, for me,

Mikey, none of us knew that's what he, even when we were. Oh, really? That's what I thought. They escalated it, right? We knew. Yeah. Like when we blocked it on Thursday, everyone was laughing just because of the, the lines that Ryan and Mikey have are so stupid. Like,

I think Ryan has a line. Yeah. Where he's like, I actually have a really busy life. Like that would always make my feeling. Yeah. Dumbest line ever. Actually. And you think he's not talking to him. He's like this guy over here. Yeah. Yeah. And then they, they ad lived on Thursday or maybe it was Friday when we were blocking the, like, I don't know this. Hi, John. Nice to meet you. Like that was added.

But then, yeah, just Mikey just looked so fucking dumb. It was shocking. What was the difference in his makeup between, because everyone had seen it at dress. Yeah, we all saw it at dress. I think it was just, it was like this. He just changed his mouth a little bit. It amped it up a few percentage points. He just made himself like 20% dumber.

It's all you need. Yeah, and Keenan never... Keenan carried that... I don't think the steps would have worked as much if you didn't have Keenan doing that. No, we kept it rolling. Yeah. By the time it got to me, I was like, I can't super break. It's annoying. Yeah. Right, it was already... Yeah, because...

Did Heidi stop? Heidi was already, that was yesterday. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. I don't know. I'll see her today. I haven't seen her in two weeks. Yeah. But Heidi never breaks. That was what was so like delightful. I've never had a break. And it was more than a break. It was laugh out loud. It made me laugh. I think that thing has like 20 million views or something. I mean, it's really kind of a, it's awesome. Did Mike? Yeah. Well,

Well, Mikey and Heidi have known each other forever. So I think it's also like two long time friends. I think she's, yeah. With a lot of love for each other. So it's like, it was so hard, hard. Yeah. There's a lot of love behind that too. It was just great. It was fun to see everyone looked funny in it. And then just seeing that. And then she really like got like, she can't stop, which is always fun to watch. Just fun one.

And Ryan Gosling's a huge star. It's all construction of, of the writing of having Keenan be the voice of the audience. Like stupid AI conversation. That, that, that, and then the seriousness and back and forth. It's sort of just a really well,

Yeah. It operated on all cylinders. It did. But I don't know if you know this, but like they have pitched that sketch so many times. I didn't know. Really? Yeah. There's a Jonah Hill dress rehearsal. You can watch there. Oh yeah. This is like the third time maybe.

And they said the Jonah Hill one's like hilarious. It just never like made it past the finish line. So it was cool when air, when it happened on air, all these writers came down, like Streeter Seidel was there watching it. Cause I think he has taken that thing to table like five times. Jeez. Whoa. Motivational speaker didn't get on right away. That took a long time. Really? And that's people would be shocked. And actually the writer Bob Odenkirk had left and then we came back in the season and did it.

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just fine shane for a day yeah did you meet shane when that happened or you never even got to me no no a part of me like no i i met him at like a one of those like lauren baseball games like two years later and he was so sweet um can you get us some hot dogs chloe what would you like garnet what do you want chain whatever you met him there he was there

Yeah, at a baseball game, like two years later. Yeah, it was crazy. Oh, two years later? Yeah, yeah. But Bowen was a writer before I was, so I really felt very new. But Bula, Dan Bula and I were the same age.

year uh and then love dan bula genus bula's solid solid you came in as feature writer or just feature or cast cast i was just saying what no no feature cast cast the future player i think they call it a player yeah and then gosh who came after me

Then it was like Andrew Dismukes and... I can't remember. Do you know everyone who's on the show? Yeah, I do. You're like, I'm... I'm just trying to remember...

It was like me and Bowen. Then I feel like it was punky Andrew, Lauren Hall. Then came the Sarah, Jadge, this guy, Aristotle year. Then they brought in a hundred people, Marcello, Michael, Devin, and Molly. Who does the impressions and then she's not there anymore?

Melissa. Melissa. Yeah, Melissa was already there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was like three years in when I started. Melissa had been there for four or five years. I see her and Marcello. One thing that speaks to your ability is the understudy sketch where you did Melissa and you did Kate.

Yeah. To them. Yeah. That was kind of interesting. How did they take that? I was so scared. Especially, like, you know, I think we are all really close. But, you know, when I started the show, like, Tate had been on the show for, like, nine years and was a superstar. But it was one of the loveliest, weirdest shows.

I was about to be like down to earth and very down to earth, but like paid, I was like, I think we'll get a kick out of it. But like Cecily, I was really intimidated. All those women I was so intimidated by, but then it was sort of this like sweet Cecily was like, so into it, which was shocking. And Kate was great.

And I was like, it was a thing too when I had started, if you had a pre-tape, I had written, actually with Dan Bullough, we wrote this murder show. And like just getting those super seniors to be in your video was so hard. So I was like shocked that they even were open to being in a pre-tape. Can they turn it down? Super seniors. I've had things turned down. Yeah. What? That was already approved? Of like- Yeah, I've had that. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, I wouldn't do that anymore. Yeah, I'm not revealing anybody, but you know, but then you have you Kate has never met Kate was always in everything. And that meant a lot to me.

I've never turned anything. I love the pre-tapes. I could be there for hours. Pre-tapes are tough. I know. Do you do, you don't do them. When do you start? That's my last question. When do you start on pre-tapes? Cause we used to only do them Dana, right? After read throughers, like on a Wednesday or Thursday, Thursday kind of. Yeah. Yeah. How do you know what's approved before Ryan Gosling gets there? Do you get him working Monday morning?

No. Well, now they're doing these promos. So like I have to shoot a promo tomorrow. Will you walk around with a host or do something? Yeah. They're like, can you do a Dua Lipa impression? I'm like, no. So I'll, I'll do like, I'll find some bird call version of her tonight. Literally right now, just for our listeners. So you've been assigned this impression. Yeah. And you have to have it down by tomorrow and you don't have it.

Right now. She's British. No, I'm not like a, like Melissa was part of Melissa's genius was he could do these singing and prep like Lady Gaga. I cannot think of a wife with me. Yeah. You'll have a funny wig. You'll have an accent. You're halfway there. Yeah. We'll be okay. But otherwise, yeah. Wednesday night, they pick your stuff. Hopefully. And it's cool with the pre-tapes because usually you'll get an email from

like 15 minutes before the pics are out asking to zoom for your video so so it's really sick as hell to be like oh my god like we did oh you know that's how you find out you got on yeah yeah email like a pilates video and it was like you got the bing and we were like oh and then when is the next morning no then we then they have to build they build the set thursday and then we shoot it friday

And then for like the under, when it would be like a me-centric video, that would be done. Sometimes they would pick it on Wednesday, but not really. And they'd be like, we're going to do this next week, but shoot it like on Monday. Or we're going to shoot it on Tuesday. And then the writers were so mad. Inventing Chloe, we shot on Thursday. So that was the next day. And we weren't thinking.

and it was when everyone was doing like rewrites i think and we had we wanted like seafood towers so we basically like stunk up oh i saw that yeah 17 that looked expensive by the way really expensive it was really gross and like all the writers were like locked in the they were so mad oh yeah that was yeah that rewrite table with jim downey was probably dating with

15 hours of just going over every goddamn sketch. And you weren't even in them or you wrote one. You just go, Spade, wake up. What do you got for me on this one? You're like, what if this guy says this? Yeah. Yeah, that was a tough job that day.

All right, Dana, what else do you have for lovely Chloe? Do you have a question for us? You're off the show this week. There's no show this week. No, no, no. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. So I think we'll do another hour. Unless you have something to do, we can go into our second hour. No, no, no. Just say hello to the cast. They're all brilliant. It's the show's cooking. Yeah, it is. It really is. It's like found its, but we've like figured each other out a little bit more.

Yeah. I do think that. Say hello to that Brillo pad Sarah Sherman. The audience just keeps discovering. Yeah. Crazy Sarah. Yeah.

What did she say? The sun has knockers. Oh yeah. She was on our show. She goes, by the way, just FYI audience, Dana and I, I told her later, I go, we both found out later. We didn't understand. We didn't understand. And we just laughed because it was so bananas. But she said, you know, they're saying earth is flat, but I think the sun has big knockers. I didn't connect that. And then we did all these jokes about it. And then later when I saw it on a clip, I go,

Oh, I get it. I didn't even get it. I didn't hear the earth is flat. So that was the thing that I thought it was a non sequitur. And I was like, well, why do I even say I'm in comedy? I didn't get it. I was so embarrassing. She did a bit and we thought it was funny anyway, because she was like, you know how the sun has to do hers is big. The sun has big knockers. She has a funny voice. She has. But you can go walk to work now.

I could actually today. Or do you have a limo? No, no, no, no. I like the subway. I'm near Westworth. So it's like seven minutes, five minutes on the train. Get out. All right. Our last, our last thing we'll let you go. Do you have a fake pitch for the, the meeting today? Like, Oh, this will be like, uh, Chloe, anything you're like, hi, do, uh,

That's how you start. Yeah. Yeah. Hi, Dua. So over the break, that's usually how it starts. I'm going to think. So I'm the worst at it. Yeah. Mine are like weird. Everyone has their thing. Sarah is our Sarah. Marcello kind of does this like

So I was thinking that he does like a Chalamet, like sexy baby thing. I take, I'll have it one way. And then the pitch is so bad, but then sometimes they do become sketches. Yeah. The host doesn't know they bite on a fake pitch and you go, Oh, Sydney Sweeney. I pitched her the Hooters idea where I was like, maybe work at Hooters. And,

And we're counting tips. I get $20 and you're like, cool. I made like $40,000. And then she DM'd me to write it. And then we got in so much trouble for like sexualizing. It was so fucking funny. But it was, you pervert over here.

I know you perv. That was a good one though. It was very funny when you're counting your money. Yeah. Some of that just silliness. I think this is sort of, I don't know. I just, the way the world is all this madness and everything and just abstraction. That's why B was a butthead. Maybe it would hit so hard and that's who to just catch. Just, I think we're in the mood for like, just, I know.

I think so. I think the political client, like we also like it's you, you can kind of touch it, but not really. It's like, it's, it's, it's opened the door for weird, which I think is so nice. Weird. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I, I'm not the smartest with the political stuff. So.

I do these little shorts for this just because if I do Biden, I feel like I'm doing something really nasty and wrong. So I kind of have to do it. People get so mad when he does Biden. There's so many Trump jokes. But I have done some silly little things and people seem to like that now. I don't know what you call it. Abstract or weird. I like that. I like that a lot. But movies are like that. I was thinking that the Sasquatch sunset. I don't know.

If movies are weird, everything's weird. We're in the era, age of weird. You know, it's funny because there's a lot of superhero movies because I figured out that the bad guy can't be a certain race or religion. So you make them just a monster and then no one gets mad. Well, you know what I mean? Or you can be a transformer and they go, okay, the influence on, on entertainment is because of the trauma of Hiroshima and Japan is

There was all this radioactive Godzilla movies and worse than there. So it is an influence on whatever the zeitgeist or the emotional, uh,

uh freak or the emotional temperature of the culture yeah yeah totally so two people having fun being really silly and you know it's just great so yeah i'll be watching saturday don't yeah we'll watch this well yeah have fun chloe thanks guys chloe thank you for doing a zoom from the kitsch your new sketch you're welcome and i'm sorry about being so inept at this beautiful microphone

You nailed it. I'm going to bring this to a pitch. I'm going to just pitch with a loose mic. That would be so funny. Just stand up and do it. I actually think I might do that. It's pretty funny. Loose mic.

You go, hey, Dua. Dua, can you hear me? She's like, yeah, I'm two feet away. Okay. So, Chloe, so nice to meet you. Sometimes this doesn't work in here. So nice to meet you. Nice to meet you, too. Okay, Chloe. Thank you, hon. And I wish you all the best and keep having fun and say hello to anyone who would ever care if I said that. Anybody that listens. I will. All right. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.

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