Stop F*#CKING lying to others (and more importantly to yourself) EP 64
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From the art of the deal to keeping it real. Live from the Simply Vegas studios, it's The Power Move with Jon Gafford. Back again, back again, back again. And Counselor, dude, it's been like a month since I've seen you, I think. Two, three weeks, maybe. It's been that long, dude. It's been a hot second. Did take a little bit of time off because I've got some projects going on and things happen. But we're back.

And our IQ level on this show is way lower. You weren't here when I came up with it, though. Uh-oh. Because I had a debate, and literally we put it on the gram. I forgot about this. I've been called it like four times by now. I know we have. We put it on there, and I was like, yeah, did we do a Bulgarian mongoose, or do we switch it? I thought the new one, because I was watching LSU play, and it hit me, the money badger.

for Colt and I put it up on social media. It was a 50 50 vote and I could see the disdain you already have for it or is it just the love for the Bulgarian mongoose? Yeah, I mean people come up to me like you know what the problem with the Bulgarian mongoose is that

It's not good to have that stick. What was good was a new one every week. Yeah. But the Bulgarian mongoose was the one where I just felt like we were on top of the mountain. Yeah. Like, where do you go? I think the top of the mountain. So you go, do you keep doing that? You try to improve, innovate. You can't climb any higher. You just run with it. You think I look like the money badger with my ascot? You know, in all fairness. We didn't talk about the ascot today. If you showed me a picture of a man with an ascot, it would be money badger.

That's a good point. Yeah, he just tipped the scale. Well, Money Badger, Money Badger, Bulgarian, whatever it is. Ask Scott, whatever it is. Colt Amadan joins us on The Power Move today, and as well as always, the counselor, Chris Connell. I am your host, John Gafford, and welcome to The Power Move. This is a show where we talk about business, we talk about life, we talk about lots of stuff, but we're going to start talking about something a little more specific here for the next little bit. Is this me banging or you banging? It's you. It's me banging. I'll turn it off. Sorry.

But we're gonna talk about a couple of things that are important because number one, I've been working on a side project, which is why I haven't been here. And I have been working on a book and that book is getting close to having some framework and having some things. And as we have the chapters laid out and kind of the general idea of how this deal is gonna go,

I want to kind of start breaking the podcast down into individual chapters that we already have. And I want to kind of get some feedback from you. So you listening at home, are you watching on YouTube? Do me a favor.

Comment back hit us up if you see this clip somewhere floating around on the social media if you're watching it its entirety if you're listening to it go to manage a Chili's whatever it is no no if you don't mind shell is your opinion matters not to me if you work at Chili's but if you Anywhere that you may see this if you see it somewhere where you're not so you can comment DM me go on Instagram and DM me and tell me the parts of it that resonate with you because this is kind of like my live feedback from

for how this is going to go. It's going to be real hard to do a scratch and sniff book over podcast. It is. It's a coloring book. It's going to be your version is a coloring book. Colton, that's what it is. You have a coloring book thing. The worst thing about reading is my finger gets tired. Yeah, exactly right. It takes from scratching. But anyway, so this week we are going to talk about what is chapter one in this book because really the theme of the book and what it is is

I didn't have any type of large-scale success, I would say, or generalized success until I was in my mid-30s. Call me a late bloomer, call it whatever it is, but you look at it and Colonel Sanders didn't hit until he was in his 60s. I was going to say, is that a late bloomer? No, and I'll tell you why it is. Take the tech people out of the equation. That's a skewed variable. No, no, no, but here's the problem. The problem is now, in the age of social media, when you can make a ton of money for doing

nothing or doing stuff stupid. The benchmark for what you should see or what people do see for success, that age is skewed down. It really is what it is. You know, it was always real business is not, but here's the thing. It was always, I think success is one of those things. It was always, you got time, you got time, you got time. And now with the speed of information, everything else that's compressed, uh,

And I can tell you when I was, when I was in my early twenties, mid twenties, whatever it was. And, and even in my thirties in, I would say I had some cool jobs and I did some cool stuff. You know what I mean? But I never really, I was never really in my own mind successful. And I kind of found myself, you know, when we were working with the, with the, with the, with the editor and I was coming up with, with the, with the title for the book and I was coming up with what it was.

We talked about The Apprentice and when I was on The Apprentice and she said, you know, at one point we're talking about, you know, what's the biggest thing you learned on The Apprentice? What was it? And I said, well, it was this. I said, it was funny. It didn't come from Trump. It actually came from Mark Burnett.

And we were standing there and they were prepping for a shot one day outside of Trump world tower, which is where they set up and give us a task. And the other production's there and then he's going. And it was just kind of a cluster, right? You could just tell like the cranes were like, this wasn't working. You tell the jibs weren't something wasn't right. And it seems like everything was falling apart and the crew and Burnett was there. So the crew's all freaking out and they're running around with their hair on fire because he could be a hard guy to deal with. And, uh,

Kristen Kircher, who was on the show with me as Burnett goes storming by, she says to him, she goes, tread water today, aren't you, Mark? Right. And this dude just turn around on a dime and looked right at her and didn't even think. And he just said, I don't tread water. I swim. Yeah. And just went back to work. And I was like, wow. And I thought, you know, that lesson in itself was so powerful for me because it was like,

you know so much in my life i just kind of felt i was drifting along with the current you know you're just kind of drifting along man just kind of just kind of hey man wherever the wind takes me you know what i mean let's see which way this flows and and it's really easy to get stuck in that life

Mean whether you're you're in hospitality when I was stuck in that life for a long time when you you know you make your money and then at the end of the shift we shut down and everybody goes to the bar and then wash repeat the next day I mean cash tip everybody out. Yeah, it's a bit and it just it's the next day and it just it's so easy to get caught in that cycle of Self-inflicted mediocrity. It's so easy to do so I wanted to write a book kind of about

chronicling some of the stories from my life and some of the things I've seen from other people on how to escape the drift is essentially what the book is called. And the first chapter that I really want to talk about today is about where it all starts and ends for me, which is honesty. And I think honesty is something that I find to be one of the most important virtues that it's very easy as a child to

or as a young person to be in a circumstance that it's, it becomes repetitive and easy to not tell the truth for whatever reason. And you kind of get caught in the cycle of doing that. And if once you start that, it's very difficult to break that cycle. And I think it's about not only being honest with others, but if you're not honest with other people, it prohibits you from being honest with yourself. Yeah.

I mean, I think that's just where it all begins and ends for me. And so today we're going to talk about was, is honesty. I want to talk about some of the things that you guys may have done in your life where you felt you weren't, you weren't honest. Yeah.

And why that might have been. And then the cat, like I consider both of you guys to be pretty honest. I mean, Chris, you're a lawyer, so you're as honest as you can be. Oh, we'll talk about it. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about what that means and what I define honesty as because. Which I find that interesting as well. It's like lefty from Donnie Brasco. He's like, Donnie, even when I lie, I tell the truth, you know, you know, or whatever. Just that whole thing about, I don't lie. Lying to me is a refuge for the weak.

I think if you lie, hey, where were you? I was at the Smiths when you were at the Albertsons. I don't care what it is. If you lie, you're just a very uninteresting human being. Well, you said at one point on the podcast, you said people that lie don't have the ability to properly frame the truth. To come up with a more interesting truth or whatever, right? And you say, oh, I was out. I mean, it's true, right? So vagueness and things. And when you're advocating for people, you always want to –

Kind of neuter the bad facts and accentuate the good facts, right? But you never lie. Because if I'm before a judge one time and they catch me lying. Yeah. Oh, you're done. But I'm not just done for that judge. This is a small community. Lawyers talk. If you go up there, one attorney, personal injury attorney in town, was called a weasel by a Supreme Court judge or by a Ninth Circuit court judge or something. Called a weasel.

Like you're a weasel. And you know what that means? I've caught you in a lie, you little weasel. And that's a judge on a bench. I couldn't believe it. The quorum I thought was a little. Yeah. I'm like, even if a judge got you, there's a way to. Were you on the other side? No, no, no. Like I'm saying these things circulate. Oh, I'm sure. Especially that. Everybody's heard about it. So, you know, at the end of the day, you don't lie. I've never lied to a judge.

Right. What I've done is advocated for my client, which I'm hired to do because hopefully I'm clever enough to do that better than my own dumb client would be if they lied. People will lie. The average person, you put them in front of a... Oh, I didn't get that notice.

It's like, sir, I have your signature here. Well, that's not my signature. We have a drone footage of you doing it. Oh, well, that's my cousin. He looks like me. They lie and then they get buried in that lie. And it's just, it's the end of it. As a kid, did either one of you guys have it? Would you call an issue with this? No. No, you didn't. You didn't. I never had an issue. What about you, Colt? My dad had a rule. What was the rule? Don't talk back to your mother. Don't do something behind my back. He had three rules. Don't talk back to your mother.

don't do something behind my back you wouldn't do it for my face which is a rule and i've talked i've told him that after the fact that's a rule my kid's gonna do stuff behind my back and i need them go do it to learn but anyway the third one's just don't lie to me yeah like if you did something like let's figure it out and he wouldn't like i didn't come home to a beating if something went bad you know so just don't lie to me and we'll figure it out yep my dad says the same thing he's like you could kill somebody tell me the truth

Just don't lie to me, man. It's going to be worse, right? It's way worse. I mean, as a kid, I can remember. It wasn't a kid. Probably like later on, you know, teenage years. I lied about one thing, but.

It is to, because it would have wrecked somebody else's life, right? So that's one time. But my family used to just sit there and say, tell the truth, you know, and it's true, right? Like you tell the truth, yeah, you might get in some trouble, but you get caught lying. It's a lot worse, you know? Yeah. Copeland's got a good point, though. What's that? He goes, I lied to prevent somebody else's life from being ruined.

Yeah. In that instance, I'm a hundred percent. Like if somebody asks you a question on your business. Yeah. You know, like a personal question. Hey, did this person tell you this? And it's none of their business. Yeah.

i'm now at the age where i don't care i just say that's none of your business right yeah yeah now i'm at the level of age where i can confidently tell you that's none of your business yeah don't even ask me you'd leave out facts right i leave out facts all the time there's nothing like that's what my mom used to be like god damn it you're so sneaky i'm like i'm not sneaky just ask me questions here here's the thing like i find that like with me as a kid like it wasn't

It wasn't lying to stay out of trouble. That's not the kind of lying that I'm talking about. It was feeling the need to lie to belong. And this is something that started when I was a very young kid, man. I mean, you know, my parents got divorced. And, you know, when I was a young kid, as at least 50% of the people listening to this tap to you as well.

And there should be a rule somewhere that says you should not divorce a Southern lawyer in a small Southern town. It's just a really stupid plan. - It's unwritten somewhere. - Yeah, it's unwritten somewhere. But my mom did not exactly do great in the divorce. And part of the settlement was we got to keep the house in the nicest neighborhood of my small Southern town.

but there's no money. You know what I mean? So here we are, you know, you're, you're, you're starting out in life and you're already like posing. You know what I mean? It's already like, I'm hanging out with all the rich kids, but I ain't got two nickels to scrub together. We live in country club. So I got to, you know, you know, you're just, you just wind up making shit up to try to like, just fit in, which is just stupid. That's the same thing. But that's Dave Chappelle. Oh, he's like, I'm not from the hood. You guys just assume that he goes, I'm

I was just a broke guy in middle class. Right. And so, but I think, I think, I think a lot of people did, you know, as a kid, I didn't really do go through that because everything I was tied to was sports related. You can't lie about sports, right? You can't be like, Oh, I made 10 touchdowns. No, he didn't. I watched the game. No, that's actually, that's a really good point. I, most of my life focused around sports and not the social. Yeah. So I didn't, I didn't have to try to impress people because where I'm from, people didn't have stuff. Yeah. Like really looking back on it.

You look at some of the wealth, you know, just the picture, the things you've done and seen and experienced yourself, that level of wealth didn't exist. If you're a lawyer or a doctor in my town, you were, you were rich, but there was, there was a dozen of you. Yeah. You know, there wasn't a lot of you and you're, and when you're a lawyer in a small town, you're getting paid the wages of, you know, you're getting paid the hourly fees of people in that town. So I get, you know, in Mulberry, I don't think attorney's fees are 400 an hour.

you know i don't think they work yeah i mean again i just but i think a lot of people do this and i mean i think so i know they do the reason i said i didn't because i just i tried so much of sports right well look don't get me wrong i still i see there were some

There was also supplies along the way to keep my ass out of trouble. I mean, we were laughing. If you have siblings and you're older, I love the fact that when you get with your parents sometimes and you start outing each other over shit you did when you were younger. Like your early 30s. Oh, no, no. Like 20s, early 30s, you can start outing stuff. The best one I had was I was making fun of my sister for something she did. I remember in front of my mom and

I don't know. Maybe she took acid and went to a dead show or something. Who knows what it was? Right. And, uh, and we're outing this in front of my mom and I was like, really? Then my sister goes, well, really mom, at least I never caused you to commit insurance fraud. I'm sorry. What, what was that? What's the statute of limitations on that before we go any further? I'm pretty sure I've looked it up and whatever, but it's not there, but so I don't know if I've told you guys this story or not, but I'm talking now. So

What happened was when I was 12 years old, me and my friend Corey Daigle, who's since deceased, so I guess I would have to take the heat on this one. My own is the statute of limitations, not up, but we're playing match flick in our house, which is where you take a box of kitchen matches and you flick them at each other and they light in the air. We're playing this game in my house and all of a sudden there's a knock at the door and I'm like, oh, who's that? We had these big heavy wooden doors on the front of the house and we're always a bitch to open like the locked in work, right? Right.

And anyway, so I go to the door. I'm trying to open the door. And Corey starts hitting me in the back of the shoulder. He's like, bro, bro, bro, bro. And I turn around and the living room's on fire. Like the drapes are on fire. The couch is on fire. The carpet's on fire. I'm like, the room is on fire. Like you see in the movies with the smoker. Like backdraft going up the wall, right? I'm like, holy shit. So I'm yelling back.

The house is on fire. It's on fire. It's on fire. So anyway, the guys that came to the house were two, call them North Florida juvenile delinquents, whoever they were, in the 16, 17-year-old range. They were doing a car wash, my sister was. And these guys were coming to our house to get another bucket and a hose. And so anyway, they came in, they put the fire out, right? But I'm looking at the couch, it's burned, the carpet's burned, the house smells like smoke. I'm like, what?

What am I going to do? Electrical fire. And the guy goes, he goes, all right, I can get you two knuckleheads out of this. You just got to disappear for like an hour and a half and then come back in like an hour and a half. All right, man, you're going to get me out of it. No problem. I'm gone. So we walked down the golf course and we walked down towards the lake and we just hang out there for a minute and they come walking back up and we walk up and there's like four police cars at my house. I'm like, what is going on? Right.

So as I'm walking up the house, I notice our, and this is like back in the day, dude. I mean, even this is like mid early eighties, but even still are like hi-fi or stereo or whatever it was. It's probably from like 1969, right? It's like one giant solid unit and it's laying outside in our whatever crappy TV is laying outside. And I'm like, what's going on? And the cops are like, I'm walking up. I'm like, what's going on? And there's, you know, my sister's friends sitting there.

And the cop, you know, the crack police force from my hometown is like, you know what? Two guys broke into your house and we're stealing this stuff. And these two gentlemen came up and caught him in the act. Really? They took off fleeing. But, you know, we've heard about this where they set the house on fire to cover their tracks. Classics. Isn't that? My mom pulls up and she's like, oh, my God.

we got robbed. And I'm like, Oh, we got robbed. And I guess insurance covered like everything. You never told her that? Mandy told her when it was like 35. Mandy told her. So it's Mandy snitched me out. Yeah. She snitched me out. So yeah, there was that. So there was definitely times when, you know, so you maybe didn't start off with the most honest track record. Yeah.

Yeah. No, when you're a kid though, you're not, you know, you're doing it to save your own ass. It's survivalism. It's CYA. I don't know that that's even, I don't know that you can expect a kid who doesn't have a fully formed prefrontal cortex to be that honest because it's like, oh, I screwed up. You're, you're a, yeah, that was, that was dead meat. You set your house on fire. That's dead meat. I mean, but thinking back on it, what would happen if one of your kids accidentally set your house on fire? I mean, you're not going to,

Beat him to death? No. He'll just be like, you're an idiot. But you're 12. Okay, you're 12. You've just done this. There's any opportunity for redemption standing in front of you in the form of 16-year-old juvenile delinquent telling you they're going to take it. You take that. You take the door. But there's a difference between being like you're not a dishonest person. Right. You weren't screwing your mom over by lying. Right. No.

No, and it's like you're trying to save yourself. The built-in, that's why people are dishonest in a lot of ways, right? It's survival instinct. Yeah. I don't want to lose what I have. I don't want to face the music. Okay, there you go. If there's a way out, why would I face the music when there's a way out, right? Right. Now, when you're 12, you don't sit there and go, oh, I'm a pillar to my community. If I lose my integrity. Yeah.

Yeah. At 12. I mean, you have no integrity. Yeah, but I think probably then. I mean, there was, again, trying to keep up with the Joneses and keep up with stuff. And, dude, that was a habit I was in for a long time. But you know what? A long time. You know, I talked to my wife. We talk about this not a lot, but quite a bit. I mean, growing up like you did –

I don't want to say it's harder than growing up like in true poverty, but that's really hard because... Let's clarify. It was not. I mean mentally because like my wife grew up in pure poverty. Totally my wife. And she sat there and she'll go, well, no one knew anybody.

There was nobody out there that was like balling, had a new car. Like everybody was walking. Everybody was poor. You didn't expect everybody's poor. So you're around other poor people. So you didn't know what you didn't have. Right. Well, if you grow up like that, you see everybody. I remember, I remember everybody getting rollerblades and like, I want rollerblades. And my mom's like, well, I'm money for that. Comparison is the thief of joy.

Oh, yeah. Comparison is the thief of joy. And when you grow up with all that, right? When you grow up with, hey, why does this guy have this? Right? It's offensive to you as a kid. You go, why I want that. I was thinking about that today. One of my favorite quotes is there's somebody out there in the world that would literally murder, you know, multiple people for your life. For your life. Right?

And it's hard to remember that because you lose perspective because you get used to it. You habituate to it. We were just right before you got here because he'd never seen it. I was showing Colt the cages that people live in in Hong Kong for 300 bucks American a month. And it's literally a cage stacked up on other cages and people rent these like it's a

They call them cage homes for $235 American a month. It's crazy just because of the way that it is. But yeah, you're right. People would kill for anything that you have. And you always think that you're in a disadvantage here. But I think that's a good lesson. If you're somebody out there that finds yourself trying to keep up with the Joneses doing that, understand that.

Mean what is the Joneses man? Most people are probably kind of full of shit about what they're doing anyway So I mean if you because the problem is social media you're looking at that which dude I cannot even imagine if I was in that situation in this day and age like I would have been ten times of worse as I just would have been which is crazy is

any one of you guys ever tell a lie and it was just uh you probably could have got away with it but you thought you were going to get burned so you outed yourself i would never do that yeah of course whatever i'll tell you mine you can tell me yours oh no here's mine so it you know this is the worst i think you know this is when you start thinking you know asking yourself maybe i shouldn't be doing this maybe i should do this so me and my buddy uh jesse lamb uh

when I was in high school, we, we sneak these two girls out of their house and brought them back over to my dad's house or whatever harmless high school, you know, kids stuff, whatever. Um,

And anyway, so we go drop them off at, I'd call it 3.30, 4.30 in the morning, whatever it was. And as we're pulling out of their neighborhood in my car, a truck comes out of nowhere and runs me off the road, right? Deliberately runs me off the road. And two large redneck fathers jump out of the said truck. And you boys should drop off two girls right there. Yes, no. No, yes. You better follow us back over to the falls back over there. Okay. So we

for whatever reason, we follow them back to the house where now all of the families are out. It's a wedding. The girls are nowhere to be found and all of the families are there. And I'm like, oh man, I'm freaking out, right? Because I'm actually pretty, I'm a pretty decent kid, I guess. Jesse's, he's a juvenile delinquent. I guess you'd call him that.

So the dude comes over, get out of the car, get out of the car. I'm like, stay in the car, stay in the car, stay in the car, call the law. And the dude kicks my headlight in like one of the fathers kicks my headlamp in.

And he goes, stay in the car. And Jesse goes, fuck you, I'm getting out of the car. And so I'm like, stay in the car, stay in the car. He gets out of the car. And the guy's like, you want to go? And he's like, dude, I'm a minor. His dad's an attorney. You want to hit me? I'll sue you for everything you got. And I'm like, oh, God, oh, God, oh, God, oh, God. So the cops come, right? The sheriff comes. Because they called the sheriff.

Sheriff comes middle of the night. I really like this. Unbelievable. Apparently you've never been to a small like a North. Basically, basically, basically the sheriff, every trio, the sheriff comes and we're sitting in the car and he goes, he goes, let me see your ID. And I was handing my ID and he just looks like this. He goes, your dad, the lawyer. And I went, yeah, he is. And he goes, I'm going to see your dad tomorrow in the courthouse. I'm going to tell him all about this.

But what is... Hang on. Because at first he goes, you boys contribute to the delinquency of a minor. And Jesse's like, I'm a minor. We're not contributing to the delinquency of anybody. How can minors contribute to the delinquency of other minors? You got water wet. You got nothing, right? Exactly. So anyway, he goes, I'm going to see your dad tomorrow at the courthouse. I'm going to tell him all about this. I'm like, shit. So I go home. Wake up, dad. Dad's got something to tell you. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And he grounded me and just took my car away, whatever else. But I tell you this, my dad relished in the next probably two months of every day coming home and saying, nobody told me anything. Another day, he didn't hear anything because the guy never told him. Oh, really? But I dropped the dime on myself. Like, I totally would have beat that charge. But I ended up coming clean because I was so terrified. If you heard it from the cop instead of hearing it from me. See, you know, it's like at the end of the day,

you know nothing you did is illegal i know this but it's just so funny that when you go you're 16 and there's a cop and that's the whole thing like i try to talk to my daughter about what laws are and she'll she'll say things like oh uh

blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, honey, the law is like a lock. It's only for honest people. It only hurts people with something to lose. Right. Right. And so you will, you watch a first 48. Those guys, all they do is rat on themselves. It's like, stop. Like they use the shock. It wasn't me. Oh, well we have somebody else in the room. Okay. Well, this is what happens. Like, stop telling on yourself. So was there a time you got caught cold?

I would say I used to get caught really bad in my early 20s with girls. They'd always just catch me in lies. Yeah. That was... Hold on, hold on, hold on. Parameters. Of course, Cole tells the story. You know, when I had like 15 girlfriends, I mean, that was such a problem for me. No, so...

The biggest lie I got caught in is, well, honestly, I really, like I said, I didn't really say lies because my parents forced us into that. Like, we'll get you out of trouble. Do not lie to us. And we'd say stupid shit and you'd get grounded. But like we had a guy, German guy that, I swear he's like German special forces next to us. He would tell everything that happened. So he couldn't lie. That guy would just sit down and smoke cigars on his front yard and tell my parents everything that happened. So you never lie to him. But

one time I was just starting to date Yvette, my wife, and she wanted to hang out. And I was with these two other girls. We need to call Yvette with the statute of limitations on this story. She'll tell you. So these two other girls, these two other girls that...

That she did not care for right didn't like me hanging out with and they want to go gamble and play poker And that's who I'd go play poker with I'm like alright, so he vet calls and goes hey, let's uh let's hang out I'm super tired getting ready to go bed. I go shit. I think I left my phone charger at the office and

You know, love you. Going to bed, blah, blah, blah. Playing poker. You're at the love stage. Yeah. Yeah. Not love you. It wasn't love you. It was just hanging out. We've been hanging out for a couple days. Love you, sweetheart. I'll see you at home. Make sure you tuck the kids in. I called and she's like, where are you? And I'm like, hurry. My phone's about to die. I'm sleeping. What's up? And I snuck off into a private room behind the poker room.

And she goes, really? Cause I'm sitting on your bed. And I'm like, oh shit. So security's coming up to me, try and kick me out of this place. I'm trying to, uh, save my relationship. That's just starting. They're threatening to spray me with mace. Cause they're trying to get me out of this designated room. It was a disaster, but that was the biggest lie I got caught in. She was sitting on my bed. Like, oh, you're sleeping. Where are you sleeping? That's not good. What about you, Connell?

Oh, you know, the one time where honesty paid off. Oh, no, I'll give you one because I'm trying to think about, but you can't say which times did you lie to your exes?

you know, a woman. Yeah, you can't. I mean, that's basically how we communicate. I don't lie to my girl. That's how we propagate the species. What's wrong? Yeah. Yeah. What's wrong? Nothing. No, it's like it's constantly you can't be dishonest, but you're constantly lying, right? Yeah. What do you think of nothing? I'm thinking about like, I wish I could go back and be a high school football here. Like, that's what I'm thinking. I don't want to burden you with my problem. You know,

Lots of times where that kind of stuff happens. Like I said, our species would be down to 30 people. Men and women didn't lie to each other. It was just never. And they'd all just be complete psychos. So, you know, people have no filter on them. So, no, one time I was working security my first day at a job. I was 18. I was working security. And they're like, yeah, here's your security shirt. Go work security at 7-Eleven outside one of the rowdiest country bars where I'm from.

Like you now work security there. When you say country, is this like Canadian country or? You got to remember Colter Wall. That guy's from Saskatchewan. Yeah, that's true. I mean, you talking about.

Canada, Saskatchewan, Alberta, Montana. It's just all countries. It's a swath till Texas. Those are people that want to fight too. Mexico's countries. They start drinking. They want to fight. And they drink and they fight. And they're like northern countries. You don't want to fight then. So this job, tell me if you think this is a responsible training, practice, and policies procedure. Like here's your whistle. Here's your shirt. Go work security. So it's like, okay, I put on steel-toed boots.

It's the only boots I had. And I go work security. This guy picks a fight with the person at 7-Eleven. I'm like, hey, I think I'm security. Hey, you get out of here. He's like, what are you going to do about it? So I'm like, oh, you get out of here. Okay. I'm going to blow this whistle they gave me. So this guy squares up with me. Squares up with me in the 7-Eleven. And I'm making, you know, 48 pesos an hour or whatever. Like nothing. Like just not making anything. I don't know what it was. Six bucks, seven bucks an hour or something. Right.

And this guy squares up with me, and I just catch him, and I just punch him and drop him. And I start kicking him when he's down with steel-toed boots on. Just one of those things. Like, I'm in a fight. I'm kicking this guy. It's on camera in the middle of a 7-Eleven, and I am just – like, I'm mad now. It's no longer about a job. This guy was trying to pick a fight with me, hammered, drunk, and throw him outside, and he's freaking out, smashes the glass in the store. Now it's a whole thing, right? So I all of a sudden come to. I'm like, I just –

kick the shit out of this guy with steel toe boots on him. That's the dumbest. I knew better. I should have known better. So I go to the police station to make a report myself. Just be like, I need to get ahead of this. Right. Like I need to get ahead of this immediately. And again, like you said, never heard another word about it. Cause I had the filed report. I was the one that was the same thing. Yeah. You went in it. So honesty is the best policy when you're really not being a piece of shit. Like, you know what I mean? If you're, Oh, you know what I heard? I heard, listen to this story. I'm not going to say names. I heard a good story.

I heard a story. No, not this one. No, no, no, no, no. I heard this story at the tailgate. I don't think you were there yet. Okay. The story came out of the tailgate that somebody that we know this happened to them. And look, man, I've been mad. Look, if you've seen from my Never Ending War with Chili's, I can lose it sometimes. I can hold a little grudge, right? About a year. Apparently, during one of the preseason games, somebody that we know came out to the parking lot and their car had been door dinged by a car next to them.

At which point they took it upon themselves apparently to kick this person's door in like massive dent on it. They did not realize is all of the poles in the parking lots around the stadium have cameras on them. They look them up. They find them on the camera. They figure out who he is. They pulled his season tickets and banned him for life. Yep.

What an idiot. So let that be a lesson to you yourselves. You're always on camera. No, but let that be a lesson. If you spend all that money on PSLs, they can't take it away, and they will. And they will. So I'm not going to get into the details of it. Yes. Similar? Somebody we know, somebody you know who knows somebody. Okay. They, last year, put a post up on Instagram at the Raiders game, you know, unvaxxed at the Raiders game.

Oh, wow. I got banned for that. So we worked it out. Okay. Sorry. We worked it out. Oh, sorry. And we had to show evidence that it was not a true statement. It was just supposed to be funny. Right. And we had to work it out. Wow. But it was like PSL's gone. Ticket's gone.

like nuclear zero nuclear option nuclear people need to realize it was just like yeah dude 50 grand push 40 grand did you read your psl agreement i did not well i'm just like you know i just buy the tickets i don't get in fights yeah but true but true but did you i had no idea they could just nuke you like that oh they can't it's you don't own it remember you and i talked about something i thought about that the other day john what a great idea was that

That would have been if you could have pulled it off. We don't need to talk about what it is, but John had this really great idea about maybe some arbitrage opportunity and it didn't work out because certain legal issues or whatever, but still a great idea. You look at it now and you go, those things are very expensive. Yeah, they're ridiculously expensive now. And to imagine someone could just take

50 grand out of your pocket. We would have killed it. We would have killed it. My idea. I don't think we would have got banned from the stadium. That's the problem, right? As it goes along. Great idea. You know, I think that if you're somebody out there that tells, I can tell you the moment I stopped doing it.

The moment I decided I was done keeping up with the Joneses, I was just done with it. It was this moment. And it was funny because I perceived this as one of the worst moments of my life. This is what I, literally when it happened, in the second that it happened, it was like you would have thought my entire world collapsed. And this is the moment.

So again, you get to a point when you start working and you just get to a certain level in what you do that people just start to assume things about you. Right. And I had, cause I did briefly, uh,

step foot on the floor of State University, join a fraternity, you can do those things. I did do those things, but I in no way had any type of decent academic career or even came remotely close to getting a college degree. But I always told everybody at that time in my early 20s, late 20s, whatever, that I'd gone to school and I'd finished school.

I told everybody that. Well, you did finish school. See? Yeah, I just... To me, I finished... You didn't finish with a degree. Not in their definition of how I finished, but I told everybody that because I thought it was so important that everybody think that about me. And so...

Get on the apprentice right and they don't really tell us the pretense of what's happening and I'll never forget this I was sitting in the boardroom the very first day we're filming right we're sitting there and Trump's laying it out and he's like this season is book smarts versus school smarts all of these people over here have a college degree and all of these people over here just high school and I'm like sitting in that chair while they're fucking filming and I'm like, oh

Holy shit my life just completely fell apart because I've told all of these people that I know Whether I told them whether I allowed them to believe it whether I allowed them to assume all of these things I'm just crumbling in my chair. I'm like I'm furious. That would be pretty it was bad start It was a startling thing and there's cameras running and everything else But here's the here's the lesson in this people. Here's the lesson Nobody gave a shit

Something that I built so high up in my mind. Nobody cared. So there's probably somebody listening to this that you're probably fucking holding something back or you've got something that you're allowing people to believe or you're puffing yourself to be bigger than you are or you're doing stuff. It doesn't fucking matter because nobody's taking notes on you. People are so consumed with themselves, they're not even listening to the shit coming out of your mouth. Oh, greatest thing you can learn in life. I tell that.

My kids, when they get, oh, I've got a big school project I've got to get up and speak in front of people, I'm like, cool, nobody's listening to you. They're all worried about they have to go up and speak next. So go up first and get it out because no one will even listen to you. But that's the truth. Like when I first moved to Vegas, the guy I was doing some work with and everything kept going, you need to lie about how old you are. You need to lie how long you've been here. I go, no, why? Why?

I've been doing this since 18 years old. If they don't like me now at 25 years old, that's their problem, right? Like other people trust me that. And why am I going to lie how long I've been here? Like there's LinkedIn, there's all this stuff. Like I'm not going to go switch stuff out because you will eventually get caught. Like especially if you do clients that long, you know, they're going to say, oh, I remember this girl when I turned 30 is like, you're only 30? I thought you turned 30 like eight years ago.

right you know it's funny what you talk about when you say that nobody cares literally nobody cares other than your friends who hopefully want the best for you anyway yeah and who would forgive you if for you know like let's say you came they won't even care about something no but they don't care but it's just like they'll break your chops or you'll do whatever and guys oh look at this guy oh mr uh college graduate over here nobody cares literally nobody cares about you other than your very closest family your closest friends

you know and your closest friends like it's shocking though once you realize because sit there this is what i did and you go who who are you thinking about right now

Yeah, are you thinking about that guy over here this guy and I'm sitting there going, you know You're so worried about going out in public. Oh my god. What if I have this bad haircut? Oh my god, you know my hair's thinning Oh my god, you know all these things and at the end of the day People gunned your head. I have no idea that You know it's in it's so and I think the big reason for the puff is social media and I see people do it all the time and it just does like

I'll see it in people like I know people that are really good at shit right that are really really really successful And they still for some reason feel need to puff themselves up, and I don't understand why I don't understand it So let me let me tell you something that's gonna be kind of a shocking piece of trivia good This is on a true or false question true or false. That got it for Colter for me Don't think it don't reverse I call it go go go Anorexia is at similar rates today than it was in the 1600s

Are the rates high in the 1600s or bad? 1700s. False. 1800s.

False. It's consistent over time. Yeah. Same consistent. It's same consistent now, social media before social media, after social media, we get this thing. Cause we, you know, it's different than what we grow up, but we had that thing that Heather's right. Yeah. Heather's happened before social media. And that was the most mean girl shit ever. Right. Right. You think about we're not that different than our parents' generation. We're more sophisticated. We know more. Mm-hmm.

We have so much more access to information, but we're not any different at literally a cellular level, at a socialization level. Things don't change from a socialization level that fast. Your grandfather was out trying to get girls and drive around, do the same dumb shit you did.

Right. And you don't realize that as a kid. And then when you have kids, you realize, oh shit, my parents didn't know what they were doing either. But my, but my point is this, my point, like maybe anorexia is a little bit of a social outlier. What I'm talking about is I think it's made it okay to puff. You look at dudes that go, go rent cars for the day and lay in, lay on top of a Lamborghini and say, oh, I started an e-com store and this is my car. You know, there,

There's no reason to do that and like for example for example like I I've know a guy that's really good at what he does and He's in the tech space and he made a comment somewhere along the lines that he says, you know He was like if you if you could just do basic math you could do this It was talking about like ecom stores or whatever. He was like I'm doing this for ten years and

I've done this, you know, I've spun up X amount of stores. And if you do the math, it was like 460 of them like a year. So I'm like, you're spinning two of these up a day from the day you started to today, every single day. Like it doesn't even make any sense. And it's like, people just don't even take the time to look at that and say, how real is that? So the point, the point is, the point is,

If you're somebody that is good at something, you don't need to inflate it. Just be good at what you do. Because if he would have said, hey, I've done 200 online stores. That's fucking impressive. And they're making X. You'd be like, damn, that's 20 stores a year. Yeah, dude, that's good, man. That's a lot. And they're all making money. That's great. There's no reason to puff with some crazy number. And I didn't understand that. Eight jillion stores. Who cares? And people, they do that.

they just puff i was on a phone call with a guy trying to sell me some stuff today i go i'll be real honest like for this business over here i don't have that capital yet to be throwing that kind of stuff give me the base minimum i'll look at it blah blah blah and he goes thanks he goes this is you 30 minutes of people lying to me about how much money they're making i go dude we just started like eight months ago i don't have that kind of capital throw he goes

I want to have lunch with you. And I go by. He goes, I make at least 600 calls a year about this, and it's for a big local thing. He goes, I talked to big – he goes, they all sit there for 30 minutes. Oh, well, maybe, maybe, maybe. He goes, you just straight up said no. I don't have the money for it. And I go, there's no need to lie. Lying never –

Hurt helps anything it hurts, right? I mean you can sit there and say oh I'm going to tell you a little white lie about or if you tell me it's this shirt stupid I say yeah, it's whatever it but is that helping you know, it's not right like no, I mean lying, but we Focusing on too much on lying as a person because I think when you talk about it, we're gonna shift That's the point We're gonna shift to that now because I wanted to talk we talked about 41 minutes all of the things that built up in the problems that that causes and I think a lot of people are

you know they're stuck in the drift if you look at the oh you know if they're stuck in the drift and you look at the oh moments they're constantly having in their life a lot of it's because they're not just lying to other people but they're lying to themselves and they're setting themselves up for failure by not being honest with themselves right i think that is a huge issue i mean for me you know like i said the apprenticing was a big deal for me and i think when that happened and it was all sudden like

Oh God, you know, and then, and then, and I felt like that was in the fact that it didn't have long lasting repercussions. And it's so funny now. It's so funny now.

Because every time I have to go to a deposition or something, every time I go, the attorney in his gotcha moments is always like, hmm, did you attend Florida State University? I'm like, I attended my fraternity in Florida State University. That was the extent of my education. And they're just like, oh, well, I'm not going to have that one. But it's just...

That moment in in there's times when you when you when you're up against it, dude and like for me in the last couple years the thing that was really Hardest for me was when we were doing all the back fund stuff right and all those problems came out of it and my involvement in that as far as What the construction and the defects I didn't making those plans. I didn't decide what was gonna get fixed I didn't decide the budgets on that stuff. I didn't decide any of it right and

But yet when my partner jerks off to Whereverville, hauls ass and leaves all those problems with me and I wind up defending five lawsuits. And me. And you. Literally, and you. But I wind up defending all these lawsuits as the last man standing. And then one day I'm sitting here, I'm at work, and the front desk lady calls and says, you know, Channel 6. Actually, I'm not here. She calls me and says, Channel 6 investigates us here. And I was like, holy shit.

And it was one of the plaintiffs. And I'm like, here I am. I've spent, you know, 10 years of, or eight years. Yeah, I guess it was nine years at this point of blood, sweat, and tears building simply Vegas into this incredible brand that,

And now because of some bullshit with a house that I had nothing to do with, I'm going to have the news out here filming my company and burying our brand. And it was terrifying. And I was like, you know, all I could do was, you know, I called him up and I said, yeah, I'll give an interview. I did it over at Van's office. And I was like,

And I just said, look, I'm not responsible, but I am accountable. Obviously, I'm here. I'm working through this. We've been trying to fix this for two years. I have no knowledge of any of this, but I'm trying to make it right. And we ended up settling the case in the long run. But the fact that they tried to drag me down, that was some terrifying shit. It was one of those moments when it's like you can't squirm. You can't. Not in this day. That is a scary thing right now. Such an aside, though, when you think about how people think others are going to get their comeuppance.

Yeah. It used to, I'm going to call channel six. Now, now if you told some 23 year old, they'd be like, who? Yeah. Yeah. But social media and the internet, it's made it real easy to kill somebody's business, but it's very easy to lie. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. And you talk about honesty. How do you, how do you remain honest and have integrity?

Right. In, in the jungle. Well, I think that, you know, that's, that's the key to it too. It's, it's, is honesty is so tied to integrity. It is so intertwined with the intertwined with that. It really, really is. Um, I think, and honestly, who gives a shit what everybody thinks about you. If you start lying to yourself, that's when you're not going to succeed. And like John said, like start being honest with yourself and,

You want to know somebody that's got like anxiety or stuff. It's because they're in their mind being honest with themselves. Right. And they're getting upset with stuff or whatever. When you start being honest with yourself, like, like you always joke, what's one thing you'll never do. And it's like, well, I'll do anything right now. No, I will not cold call. You know what I mean? Like, and I've been working on finding somebody cold call for me. But if I'm going to lie to myself going, yeah,

I'll call. I'll call. I'll never help me. No, that's why so many people get stuck is because they start setting unrealistic goals for themselves and they start setting goals with action plan steps that they are never going to accomplish because they are not, they're not within their comfort zone or they just like you just said, if you wrote it, if you were in a business plan and it said, I'm going to call, call on Tuesdays and Thursdays and you already know you're not going to, you're stupid. And that's,

There's a really difficult thing that happens there because sometimes achieving your goals or changing your outlook or changing your future involves doing things that you don't want to do. And so if you are in one of the situations where your escape is through a process that you don't enjoy.

My advice for you if you want a good piece of advice is get around other people that do enjoy that process Because when you start seeing others do it you get around it with regularity things change for you, right? I couldn't pay for I think when people have good partners because you know one shake one's big Yeah, you know and they don't do the same thing

You know, you're not complimentary. You're complimentary. You're not that similar. It's funny. John and I were talking one time a long time ago, and he goes, you know why I really like this guy, Chris? Because I asked him a question. He said, I don't know. Like you were taken aback when the guy didn't bloviate. Yeah. It keeps you out of trouble, too. Because you're like, hey, what's it? I don't know.

No idea. Explain to me what you just said there. I don't know what that word is. It was just one of those things. I just had that last Friday. Two attorneys on the phone with, I'm trying to sell this gold mine. Oh, shit about gold? And I sat there, I'm like, do I need to know what that means? They're like, no, no. Okay. Do I need to know what that means? I don't know what that means. Yeah, it means this. Okay. So then we should put this in contract. Like if I just sat there and pretend like, oh, yeah, yeah. These guys were putting together deals with the minerals and stuff that...

I had not a clue what they're talking about. Yeah. Well, I think so many people are just not honest with themselves about where they are. Right. About what their situation. You know, they think, you know, because it's so funny, man. I think about my life when I was kind of, as I call it, stuck in that drift. Right. And I think about the movie Two for the Money with Al Pacino when he was a gambler. I know you hated it. It's fine.

But here's the scene in that movie. There's two things that I always think about in that movie. One of them is the Doors movie when Val Kilmer says, I'm like a poet trapped in the body of a clown that always seems to screw up at the biggest moments. But then I think about the Al Pacino movie where he goes to the Gammer's Anonymous thing and he says, you're not addicted to gambling, you're addicted to losing because you never feel more alive than when you're on the razor's edge trying to figure out how to save your ass. And I feel a lot of,

a lot of kinship to those two statements when, at that period of my life. I feel a lot of that. Like, oh fuck, how am I gonna get out of this? And it was kind of a rush to get out of it. - The friends of Eddie Coyle. - Yeah, to bail yourself out of those terrible situations. So if you're somebody that has a lot of those situations, maybe ask yourself,

You know, do I kind of enjoy this in a weird perverted odd way? Cause maybe you do. That's a really good point about being honest with yourself. How many people are addicted to conflict?

oh people that just everyone else is an idiot every single person our friends got dates i don't mean like i'm not trying to rag on stuff but the majority like those girls love every single girl and he doesn't give them conflict so they hate it they just thrive even more and i told them i go dude they just thrive off of you listening to them and not saying nothing like this yeah there's no point

he had a date this weekend. He sent her home. Yeah. And he said, I think we would both be happier if you weren't here. Oh my God. I love that guy. I was crying when he was saying that. But people do, some people love conflict. Some people like being sad, right? Like,

You'll listen. They thrive on energy. How do you listen to that? I'd be crying. I'm telling you, if your energy thrives on negativity, you're never going to get anywhere positive. You got to start figuring out a way to make money off of that. And you got to be on it. You got to be honest about it. And I think so many people are not. They just,

We all know people that are happiest when they are unhappy. We all know people that are happiest when they are mad. I mean, it's a weird deal. And it follows them. Everywhere. You know who they are. And they're not honest with themselves. It's always somebody else's problem. And there's that whole thing. If everybody on earth thinks you're wrong and you're an asshole, if you're the only person in the room that thinks you're right, you should probably find a room full of mirrors because it's just a big you problem. It's a problem. So I would say, again,

Be honest with what you're at. And here's another one, man. I got to tell you, this is a question that I love when people come to interview for the company here. And I like to ask this question, but just when I'm talking to them and I'll ask them their financial goals, right? Like what's your financial goal, right? And so many people will just throw a number out there. Like here's that. I want to make 150. I'm gonna make $200,000, whatever it is. And then I ask them normally a question right behind it and they cannot answer it. You know what that question is? What would you do with it? Why? Or why? Yeah. Why?

Why do you want that number? What's that number? And the reality of it is, it's just some magical bullshit number. They think $250,000 is a lot of money. That's what I think I want. But they haven't been honest with themselves about why they want that. And the hard truth is, most of them that say that are a lot, not most, but a good portion of them that say that

It's not even real because they would be ultimately happy with half as much money. Sure, sure. They just don't know. So what they've done is they've thrown out a number that they haven't researched. They don't know why they want that amount of money. Trying to make a million this year. Yeah, they don't know why. But they wouldn't be happy with it. They have no idea why because – I did that with somebody. I did that with some people out of Utah. I go, okay, made X amount up here this month.

Would you guys be happy with that number for a yearly thing? Absolutely. I go, I know you would. I know you'd be happy with a third of that for a yearly salary. Like, let's get on the phone and do it. But they do. They always just throw out, oh, I need this number. I need this number. And it's like, no one can answer why. I know exactly what I need to make. That's what a good agent, good salesperson, good whatever it was, they'll make it real. Like, they'll make it tangible. Because if it's...

you know, if it's something in the ether, it's impossible to wrap your mind around. Right. You ask a question. Why do you want a Rolls Royce? It's like, I,

I don't know. Really? Like, I mean, cause it's cool. I like it, but do you really want to think about it? Do you want to pay $3,000 oil change? Do you want, it's like the more you do that stuff and you're honest with yourself, you can come up with an honest answer, but that takes, it takes some questions, right? What's a no, what number do people throw out? I'm always curious with that. I get a lot. I get a lot of 200. I get a lot of two fifths. They want to make two 50, two 50. And they don't know the answer to the question that surprises me because since I was five,

16 keep a why do you want to make money? It's like so I can buy real estate so I don't have to work Yeah But keep in mind the answer for a lot of for a lot of people when they say that that number especially here is they know what the agents here make so some of it is

Some of it is is doing what I used to do, which is trying a lot of fit in some of it like oh I'm gonna be a baller too So that's the number now some of them are very well thought out and could tell you to the penny what they need that money for You know, I mean, so it's not just everybody that ever interviews for a job But it just when you see that it just shows that there's such a lack of self-awareness for what they're really saying what they're doing like

If you're having a problem with self-awareness or you can't figure out that puzzle for yourself about the why of what you do, sometimes it's best to find mirrors to look in. And those mirrors can be other people. They can be your life, but you got to take a good hard look. I mean, like, for example, why did I, you know, now that I'm down 15 pounds, I'm still going, I'm two months into this heavy workout, track your food, all of that stuff, all of those plans. Why did I do that? Because

scrolling down my feed was that picture of the Instagram where it said, this dude was one of our clients and he came to us and he thought he needed to lose 25 pounds, but he really needed to lose 65 pounds. I was sitting here like, holy crap, I saw myself in that photo. Well, I remember when you...

did the speech on stage too which one that's the number one way to get someone to get in shape by the way show them pictures where they weren't realizing oh yeah camera on them yeah no that's a great if that's a great story yeah which is just you know by taking pictures or snapshots of your own life to really review what's happening and what are you doing and see how honest you are but again man you know if you let's sum it up if you had to give people one bit of advice on why to be honest with themselves what

Reasons to be honest. What would you say, Connell? What would your sum up be? Because the value of integrity, you can't pay for integrity. You can't buy back reputation. You can't pay for any of that. I don't care how much you have. When things matter and they come down to it, people are going to have to trust you and they don't trust you if you're dishonest. People have a sixth sense about honesty. You know when you're talking to somebody and they're full of shit. It is so...

It's a can't explain why it's just something in your eyes the way your face moves. It's a thing Yeah, I believe that a lot of people have a pretty good because everybody I know that's a bullshitter other people figure their bullshitters And they get found out you will get found out if you're a bullshitter. Do you think you can I mean outside of maybe selling cars? Do you think it's a long-term success? Well, you know what this is gonna sound really cynical yeah, but I know a lot of people who

that are good at spinning and babbling bullshit, right? And they're on to the next thing. Hey, I'm a crypto miner. Oh, I'm this guy. And they just move to the next thing, and there's a young generation of people that want to believe so badly, and they want to mentor. All those other things that we'll probably get to in time. Yeah, we're going to get to those chapters about how to choose a mentor and all that stuff. But there's so many people that want to believe. Yeah.

We have an unflappable sort of humans in our human spirit is this desire to believe in people. We need community. We need people within our Dunbar's number or, you know, whatever. But a while since we had the Dunbar. I watch a good documentary and they kept bringing that up. Really cool. It was talking about how bias works and racism and stuff. They're like, that's because.

You're hunters with 15 other people. You all look the same. Like, I don't care from now on, but yeah. And I want a chief. Yeah. Men want to be led. Yeah.

That's something we forget a lot of times. So these guys that put on the cloak of the leader and they get busted, well, in this day and age, you can reinvent yourself and keep kicking the can. Look at all these guys that get popped for fraud. It's not their first rodeo. They keep doing it. Look at the Fyre Festival guy. They've all had a thing before where they got popped. They'll make money again. There were seven things before, and there'll be 10 things in the future. Well, let's assume that that's not how you should live your life.

It's not how you know I can make short money that way you can make sure money You can make sure you can make short money that way You're never gonna have but here's the one thing man if you really want true success and you want to escape the drift It's not just about money man. It's about success and a big part of success is peace And I cannot imagine a point that if you are spinning a web of lives in every damn direction You're gonna have any any level of peace. I can't imagine that I

I agree. All right. Well, guys, thanks for joining us again. Thank you so much, man. I hope you enjoyed this. We're going to do one on each little chapter that I have going in the book. Again, dude, shoot me a DM at the John Gafford on Instagram. Tell me what you like, what you didn't like. Let me know that any feedback is helpful. If you just want to say something nasty about me, send that to Colt. Colt, how do they find you?

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