Pumpkin and Alana Part 2: Getting Custody, Mama June's Arrest, and Alana Graduates
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what's up you sexy motherfuckers welcome to another episode of dumb blonde today i've got some icons in the building if you don't know who these two are you guys are living under a fucking rock pumpkin and alana what's up baby how are you guys doing good doing good i can't see who's leapfrogging up the stairs gino and your mom june and ginae

I can't even picture June leapfrogging up some steps. Girl, I know. Up some steps? That's crazy. Oh, shoot. Well, we walk in the room, and this is the first time I've ever had anybody. The first time I've ever had anybody. So I was fucking embarrassed. Like, when I said you pumpkin was pissed, pumpkin was pissed. Pumpkin was in the floor. Is this thing on?

All right, gentlemen, coming to main stage next, this is Bunny. Get up there. She's got a tornado of titties coming your way. Get those dollar bills ready. She's got an ass that shakes like Michael J. Fox. So get up there and throw, throw, throw them dollars. Dude, that is fucking iconic. Butt naked, basically. Done threw up. Her face is in a big pile of Mexican house pants.

She's throwing up. She's also like Jimi Hendrix in it right now. She's throwing up laying down. Wait, wait, wait. Gino's over in the corner about fucking up. He's like, Jay! Jay, get up! He's like, I'll just take a shit on her head. Oh!

And he literally goes over. In front of everybody, bro. In front of all of us. Like, my best friend just come over. For the first time ever. For the first time ever. And he goes towards her face. He's like, I'll just shit on her face. And he pulls his pants down. Oh, my God. How fucking. Listen. He didn't shit on her, though. Okay. I was like, not the dookie. In the Mexican food. It's like, at this point. Imagine how fucking embarrassed. Puckin was like, fuck this.

What's Gina's butthole look like? Anybody know? I'm just kidding.

I was not looking that deep. The fucking best part about it was she's laying there fucking throwing up, laying on her back, throwing up, okay? So, like, it looks like a fountain. Oh. So she's fucking... And he's not rolling her over? No, he's so fucked up. No, he's trying to shit on her head. They drank a whole bottle of 1800 together. A whole bottle together. Oh, that's what I'm saying. I'm pretty sure they were pretty... And they were already messed up on the drugs. And then when they come back, he was like, let me get some of this Sky Vodka to take upstairs. And it was a fifth of Sky Vodka. And him and June pretty much sipped on that on the way up the stairs.

So they were already fucked up. By the time they got to the top of the stairs. Like he literally like, when he said he was going to shit on her head. They are shook. Yeah, no, for sure. When he said he was going to shit on her head, bro, he literally like squatted down and basically like sat tap her forehead. I mean, it was just so embarrassing. T-bagging. T-bag. T-bagged. No boxers around his ankles. T-bagged. And she's just giggling about the whole thing. And he's laughing.

She's lucky she didn't die. I mean, honestly. He looks at her and goes, ha ha ha, and then falls. I'm honestly surprised. Okay, so after that incident. I mean, how do we top that? Like, where do we go from here? It only goes up. Yeah, it literally only goes down from here, you know? Oh my God.

I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. All right. So Josh has has joined the other couch now. So instead of just hearing him, you guys get to see him now. You guys. He has a fucked up relationship with this microphone. He'll lay it down and start talking. And yeah. And then and then if he has something really cool to say, he'll pick it up and then whisper in it and put it back down.

She said, this is great. Yeah. You know what's cool, though, is that you can feel the love between you guys. And that's what's amazing is that you guys just have such a really fucking cool dynamic together. So, okay. Gino almost shit on June. They were fucking...

um you know how's that how's everybody feeling mentally right now are you guys like honestly i'm just like over the shit like i can definitely tell that night i don't think we were numb at that point okay okay i definitely don't think that was the numbing point for us okay i think we're still like concerned couldn't very okay very concerned because like at this point she had many strokes she's like continuously still doing fucking drugs her bracelets

her skin and her arms and stuff were swelling up so much like right there in the midst of it because they were shooting up in their arms like lana's got on and it had a bunch of beads on it and her arm was literally swelling over the bracelet and she was like she was asking him she was like can you help me get it off and he was like i'm not doing shit for you yeah like on camera on fucking camera her rings are all and just like slams the door in her face doesn't

put on there like it really irritates me i'm like you guys just need to do a fucking like behind the scenes season like be if it's gonna be reality make it reality let it be reality right but it's not reality is not really reality that's what they want you guys to see right like it's reality but it's literally clipped up into how you want to trade to what they want you i mean for so long i think we're just also used to like mama spending so much money on gina like

At first it was like, you know, Vegas trips. Like, I don't know what it is with every man she's ever been with, but it's like everybody but Sugar Bear. Well, did he go to Vegas? I don't think Sugar Bear got to go.

No, I don't think Sugar Bear got to go to Vegas. But after Sugar Bear, everybody else. Every fucking one has gotten to go to Vegas. What is it? I wonder what they appeal. Probably just the drugs. And she's open with the shit, too, dude. She's like, I'm going to go pull 10 grand out today. We're going to get on the plane. Yeah, like one time she comes back from Vegas and she's like, well, look at this Rolex I just brought Gino. Look at this Bolivia watch I just brought Gino. Like, it's like, yeah, it's like $10,000 watch it. You know what I mean? I don't know how much those damn things are. No, Rolexes are expensive. They're like $20,000, $30,000.

I said, Rolly's in Vegas are probably more expensive than they are right here. I'm trying to tell you, I looked at a designer bag and almost choked, went to Ross and bought a $6 one. Yeah, no, I'm the same way. Josh was like, baby, buy it, buy it, buy it. It was just a little Fendi bag and I was like, boo, buy it. She was like, crazy. You deserve it though. I do, but I can't. I just can't see myself spending that much money on a bag. And after hearing your fucking review,

me about your bag oh did you see it on my backup account yeah like I'm fucking I can't and Jay will buy you know he bought it for me and I still to this day fucking hate it like I'm doing it but I'll carry it around for another 10 years if I have to because it's the only purse I have you know but yeah I know I feel the same way about designer I just don't

I don't really care. Yeah. Like I would rather go and get a $5 purse than like a $5,000 purse. Exactly. My sunglasses are different. I will spend at least, you know, 500 bucks on sunglasses because I love sunglasses. That's just my thing. But purses, shoes, I've never owned a pair of Christian Louboutins. I'll fucking wear Nikes. I'm wearing literally fucking Amazon slides today. Girl, these come from Target. Yeah. I will.

I will literally wear a white one on the way out of here. No, I don't care. I had on some little white boots that I had gotten from TJ Maxx and they were fucking killing my feet. So I was like, we're going to Target. Yeah. I love Target. Target is the best. It's my fucking jam, especially when we're out of town. But yeah, then they started going to casinos down in Alabama. Oh, wow.

And it was like, what? Like, they'd go down there for weeks at a time. It wasn't her family. It started in Vegas. It started in Vegas. It was like when I left the house, it was like she was free to do whatever. Yeah. She didn't have any responsibility. So she just spiraled. Right. Because that was when Alana moved with me. Actually, we were filming, okay? And you don't have time. That's what we were on. We were on the needle thing. The next day... I'm sorry. No, no. You're good. Go ahead. The next day. No, you're perfectly fine. I'll ask later. No, you're good. So...

Anyways, we were filming the next day after the hospital incident. She was in the hospital. Gino was upstairs in the bedroom with the door locked. He let us into film. Who was in the hospital? My mom. Okay. You know, from the previous night at 10 where she was having the mini strikes. Gotcha. Okay. So they had admitted her into the hospital and stuff. And then we went into film and there was my pair of slippers was right by the door.

Well, I went to go put them on for a scene. Ella at the time was a little baby. She was crawling around and stuff. And little did I know when I went to go put that on, like I felt something in the shoes. So like I immediately took it off and there was black tar heroin and a needle in there. Hmm.

There's like two or three needles in one slipper and like two or three little baggies that were used up. I called Josh and he was fucking livid. I was so pissed. Yeah, I remember that. Because the biggest reason I was pissed is because I don't give a fuck who you are, where you are. If your baby gets a hold of some shit like that, they are immediately going to think that shit come from you. They're not going to hear that it was my mom's boyfriend's sack of dough. No, and there's fucking horror stories, man. Kids get a hold of shit like that or people put something like that in a kid's drink and they're...

immediately right there on camera we snatched along out of the house like literally josh was like josh said you can go ahead and get your shit pat you're getting out of here today like and he grabbed everything everything out of my closet everything literally but my bed and literally a few what a few either a week later or two weeks later she went down to alabama and got arrested for crack cocaine

They said when they pulled Gino and June over in the same Suburban that has been all over the world. The traveling bourbon. Yeah, for real. The crack bourbon at this point. I'm not going to get off point. I'm just going to say this. Gino's father was dying and we drove all the way to Indiana to let Gino have his last moment with his dad in that Suburban and then drove back. Oh my gosh. So the Suburban has been fucking everywhere. It's done made probably about 50 trips to Florida. Exactly. Where's the bourbon now?

The bourbon is broke down. We'll get to that, girl. The bourbon is at the end of our lifespan. I'm invested in the bourbon now. She's at the end of her lifespan.

But then they got arrested for crack cocaine, but they got caught because they were fucked up. Mama said they were geeking for like at this point, like six days. She said she'd been up for six days. And they were on the way to this, like they pulled off at this gas station where they were arguing and shit. Like apparently Gino hit her and like there was hair all over the car stuff or like he's pulling her hair and they're fighting and shit.

Well, somebody called the police because he was like, I'm going to fucking kill you. No, she said she had called the cops one time and hung up really quick. She did say on the interstate she called them twice without him like paying attention to it. And hung up. And hung up. And hung up. But somebody at the gas station heard him threaten to kill her and caught the cops. But they said when they pulled the car over that it looked like a fucking snow globe went off in there. Yeah, they said there was like so much shit everywhere. It literally looked like the

the way it was described to us was like, you know, the little Christmas decorations you see on people's tables and how all the little fake snow is everywhere. Yeah. Okay. Well, they said the whole goddamn suburban looked like that. Well, let me tell you, we were at a, I was in New York. Matter of fact, she called me. I remember that. I was in front of fucking WeTV again.

Fashion show. Looking them in their freaking face for this main event for our network. The Bridezilla fashion show. And I get a call. Ring, ring, ring. It's an Alabama number. I don't know why the fuck I chose to answer it. In the middle of this. And I'm sitting here and I'm talking to the guy that literally signs my paycheck. And I'm like, hold on, sir.

I walk away and I hear it and I'm like, what the fuck? And like I hear on the phone and she's like, what do you mean? Like, oh my God. Like I'm in New York in front of WeTV executives. What the fuck do you mean? What were you doing in front of the We execs? Like we were there for one of their events for like another show on the network. Gotcha. Usually when they bring y'all out too, y'all are doing some kind of interview. Yeah. And I'm pretty sure we had press and some shit. So it was just me and Pumpkin though. Yeah. And it was just like,

One thing after another, you know? Yeah. Because boom, front page TMZ next morning. Like literally. No, I don't even think it was next morning. I think it was later that night. I think it was a tow truck driver, but now that tow truck driver has turned up dead. Like within like the week of him selling the store.

The same week of him selling the story. It was like a month or so went by. I don't think it was. No, it was like pretty, pretty close. What did he die from? I don't know. Somebody said he got murdered. Yeah, I thought he got murdered. There was like an article or something. God. What do you guys think happened to him? I don't know what happened to him. I don't know.

Honestly, I don't know. Alabama. Wait, okay, have we already passed the part where Gina like KO'd in the hospital floor? No, I haven't waited for that story. Is that, like when was that though? Was that when Mama was in the hospital? That wasn't when she was in the hospital on the first thing. That was when she was in the hospital with them when they gave her that medicine that she was allergic to and she almost died. Remember? Girl, I thought that's been a while. But you can tell that part. It was like a long time ago but like I don't understand

the hospital. Blah, blah, blah. Alana was the only one in the hospital with him. But I was staying. I went up there tonight to stay at the hospital. And at the time, I remember I was still living with Pumpkin because at the time, I wanted to go, but I really didn't want to go. But I was like, I'll still go because I missed him. I haven't seen him in a minute. So I went to go stay with them at the hospital. I know. I wake up in the morning and Gino just passed out on the floor. Like he's in the bathroom. In the hospital? Yeah, in the hospital. He's talking about some...

Was he seizing? He was. He was definitely seizing. Listen, you know what? You guys are going to hell. He was definitely seizing. But the funny thing, the most funny thing about it is he had a needle. So, like, I knew he was shooting up. In the hospital. This man is not insulin dependent. I know for a fact this man is not insulin dependent. Mama tells the daughter he's insulin dependent. She took the needle that he's shooting up with and mama goes and puts it in the sharps bin. And she's like...

I always put them in here. Y'all know he's insulin dependent. Trying to cover this shit up, bro. That's what I'm saying. He's 56 and they're right in the bathroom floor of this hospital. And so like the doctors are like, well, if you don't want to like get checked out, we're going to have to just tell you to leave the hospital because we can't like let you know like you basically fell out of our hospital and just let you leave. And you're physically fucked up like you can tell he's fucked up. And the reason he didn't want to get seen is because he was fucked up. So did he leave the hospital? He just left and like he left my mom there.

Hold on, though. Drug addicts are the most resilient motherfuckers in the world, dude. I mean, honestly. It is crazy. I fucking take a vitamin and I overdose. These motherfuckers are doing crack cocaine, heroin, shooting shit. Mixing all this shit together. And they're fucking just... And they're out here talking about, what's up? You got an arm? You got an arm? Just AMA. You got a cigarette? Yeah.

Got a name for it? It's crazy, dude. It was wild. Gino was on, like, he would be on one all the time. But, like, it started to come to a point where, like...

what a little bit after they got arrested she invited us over to Alabama to Alabama and it was me you and Ella we went out Josh refused to go he was like fuck Josh were you just pissed at this point so listen at this point I'm not gonna lie to you dude I have a severe hate for June because of the shit that she has put the kids through right and I've been there every step of

the way since it started till now right so I'm like firsthand eyewitness like I should have been there right just like this like this is what the fuck's going on right now you know I'm saying like they're up there speedballing through a Xanax right now as we speak which was probably happening at some point right but it's just crazy for me because I've had to see the hurt

She had to come stay with us. Yeah. Like it's just a bunch. It's gotta be hard watching your girl and her sister just fucking go through constant letdown after letdown. Yeah. He tells us every time, every time. Like, I don't understand why you let her,

her let you down too damn much. But I tried to really explain to him like he doesn't understand because it's not his mom. Right. His mom is a wonderful woman. I absolutely love his mom. We love his mom. Thank God for his mom. Thank God for his mom. That's how I feel about Jay's family. I will always say that because and she's going to look at this and be like bitch. Shout out to Gam Gam. Shout out Gam Gam.

But she really is. Like, she took me in. Like, she was like, I love you. She was like, fuck your mom. She was like, she's like, you don't need her because she's been there too. Like, through all of it. Like, she's had to sit down and listen to the fucking shitty stories and everything. Oh,

Because there were good times, like I've said, but there's also been the bad times either way. The good times. The fucked up thing is, is you guys are so young. Right. You know, and you guys have those memories of when things were good, but

But at this point, it was more bad as outweighing the years of good. Now that I'm an adult and can really see it, like it was so much bad, you know? And what's fucked up for me is, you know, I've just had an adult mentality since I was younger. So I matured quicker than a lot of people that were around me, even though they didn't realize it. Right. So having to sit here and watch all this pain go through both of them. Hmm.

I'm having to witness it firsthand. So all the fucked up shit that June continuously done, the girls were just there taking it. And in my head, I'm like, you guys don't have to take this shit. Yeah. Like when she's choosing to go buy this man a vehicle and hang out with this man and do everything for this man instead of doing for y'all, then something in your brain should be like, listen, maybe I shouldn't be here. Yep. Maybe we shouldn't be here as a group. Right.

And it's just been a really fucked up. Yeah. A really fucked up series of unfortunate events have passed right in front of my eyes. And that's what makes up the hate. I mean, we're only giving you the top layer. Oh, no. Like we're trying to give you like the very short rundown. We're trying to summarize it, but it's kind of hard. It's a deep word, bro. I don't even like using hate, but like I really hate you. Yeah. Just because of everything. Still to this day. Still. Oh, my God. Like, oh, hey.

But I think at this point, once we get to like the end, I think that you'll really see why. Because at this point, I don't feel that way anymore.

But there's almost, like, I can't fix our relationship. Oh, yeah. You guys have been through some shit. But anyways. I just think we've tried so hard and, like, we're, like. Like, it just seems like we were getting nowhere, you know? Yeah. Especially now at this point. Like, she had gotten arrested. We had basically, like, tried to help her in that situation. Like, she's like, hey, here's my banking account. Like, can you move this money over? Like, I helped her in that sense. I didn't fucking pay for it. But, yeah.

When she was fucked up, she would text me and ask me for like money for groceries. And I was such a fucking idiot. And I was so young and dumb. And because I just wanted my mom's attention for just five seconds, you know, I was like, what's $75. Right. And she didn't have any groceries. And I know she's going to go back. Was she just blowing money and just didn't have money? She was broke. Wow. Like when she finally decided to go to rehab after what? Like two years, two.

but what do you call those things? Interventions. We literally had our own intervention with a sit down therapist with her one where she ran off and got high right before it. She literally got high right before the interview and then come in and was like, fuck y'all like tripped out in, um,

My aunt's driveway. Missing, like. Like, looking almost homely, like. Yes. Very homely looking. But, I mean, I will still say, even to this day, she looks homely looking. Like, the man she's with will be top fucking tier. You know what I'm saying? And she'll be walking around. Gucci belt. You know, Nike. Nike shirts. And then she'll be walking around with her pants too big. Shirt too big. Shirt too small. You know. Did your mom have a lot of trauma when she was growing up? I believe so. Yeah, definitely. Definitely.

And she never worked through that shit. Yeah. Did you ever know your grandparents? No, because my grandma's pretty shitty. She's a sellout. There we have it. She's a sellout. So basically what I've interred from the whole relationship is that...

June's mama was a drunk and did the same thing that June does. Spends all of her attention on men. Never gave any of her kids any of attention. As long as there was a drink and a man in front of her, she was satisfied. With June, as long as there was money, men, and jewelry, she's satisfied. But it's not even necessarily that because her mom didn't even raise her for long. Dodo raised her. Yeah. Which is our aunt. Being that her mom didn't raise her, I would think that you would think that she would want to be a better mom.

Yeah. Like, honestly. You either go one of two ways. Pumpkin, what kind of mom are you? I'm a damn good mama. There you go. There you have it. So when...

trauma happens to you, um, you know, you're either going to be exactly like the person who traumatized you or the situation, or you're going to literally want to break generational curses and be the complete opposite. I'm the complete opposite of my trauma. You're the complete opposite of your trauma. Alana, you are still young enough to choose that you want to be the complete opposite of your trauma. You know, you don't,

I don't think anybody wants to be like mama, you know, like, and we're not bashing her or anything like that, but she has chose not to work through her pain. Right. You know? And that's why I tell you whenever you guys are ready and you guys have time and can find somebody that you trust, you guys got to work through it. I have an amazing fucking therapist that I would love to refer to you guys. And you guys can do zooms with him. His name's Glenn. He's fucking top tier. And I'm telling you, he gets to the root of that shit. And he's like the most unorthodox fucking, um,

therapist I've ever had. And like you meditate, you go back to your child, um, you know, your child self, you get to talk to your child self and you know, like give your child self a hug and you get to learn all your pods. Like it's crazy. So I'll give you guys his information. And if you guys ever feel it on your hearts, you know, reach out to him because you can trust him. He has a lot of high profile clients and he's extremely, I think that's what's the hard thing. Yeah. Like even choosing doctors for my kids, it's like, you have to be super careful because

being on that side of things like i don't consider myself a celebrity but a lot of people do no you guys are celebrities you guys are household names right and so it's very hard to trust anybody so i could kind of get real honest coming from you know like it's like are y'all asking that question because later like i know there's hippa and stuff but shit i'll be damned somebody won't break it you know i totally know and um but glenn would never so right right yeah i'm not saying that he would ever no no no for sure and at

but I wholeheartedly vouch for him. So if you guys ever do, and when you want to, which it'll come, you guys, when I was 22, when I was 17, I was a fucking asshole. I did not want to work through my trauma. I was a little fucking hellion. I fucking rebelled. I did it. You know, I did it all. And it wasn't until I, until I was older that I wanted to actually like work through it and unpack it and shit. So moving forward, fucking Gino and her are just on the out. She showed up to an intervention, missing her teeth, uh,

Yeah, that was like the first one. And then the second one she decided, I guess her and Gino, she claimed that they had a talk and they decided they were going to go to rehab. Right. And they did go to rehab. But at the time, she only went to rehab because she knew she had a check coming. Wow. She knew she had a check coming from the show she completed and she only had 75 cents in her bank account. Wow.

So then, what did she do? She did get out of rehab, and she did stay sober, but Gino didn't. Like, he did start his drinking habit. But the first time she went into rehab, Gino come and got her. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, I forgot. Shit, girl, that was not just one rehab. I forgot. There's been at least two I know of. I think it was like three. It was very hard for us to agree on the first intervention. She went to one in Atlanta. That was the first intervention. And it was really nice. Like, um...

the people were really great there. Like they understood where I was coming from because I still don't even right now, I don't understand like addiction being a disease.

I'm the same way. I always feel like it's a choice. Yes. I'm this and you are now the second woman that I have found that agrees with that. Yeah. No. So we can, you know, we'll, we'll agree to disagree with the world, but you know, I wasn't, I was addicted and it was my choice. I was addicted to Xanax and cocaine and I used to crave that shit and it was my choice to do it. And I partied all the fucking time, but then it was also my choice whenever I decided I didn't want to do it.

So I'm speaking from my experience of myself having an addiction. Right. It was my choice. And I also made the decision not to be anymore. Right. You know, I feel like sometimes people mistake willpower for disease or mental illness. And I don't know. That's just there's a fine line there, you know? Yeah. And so like they were really great. And yeah.

She was still using drugs there though. Like, but she would do it where like, you know, she would come in on Monday and then she'd do her drugs or whatever. And then she wouldn't go back until the following week. Like she was supposed to go twice a week, but then she started only going once a week because she knew she was doing drugs in between. She'd pop dirty and they'd kick her out. And then she'd come up with some crazy thing to the crew. And she was like, I'm not going to this fucking rehab anymore because they're doing drugs in the back.

She's like, y'all think they're all fine and dandy. They just want your fucking money. She was like, but everybody's pissing dirty in this motherfucker. Like basically just showing her ass, like talking shit about this rehab. So they weren't allowed back there. And then we had another intervention, which is where I met her in Atlanta at like a secured spot. She just had like, it was so sad seeing her like that. Like she was in fucking shambles, you know, like ticcadilly.

teeth messed up hair yeah you did not see her that day because i was like no like alana does not need to see her like that do you guard her from a lot of that stuff or do you i don't know but i did before right because alana like i think a lot of people at the time forgot alana was a kid yeah we would all talk about it just like openly in front of alana and just be like oh yeah you know mom was a crackhead or whatever because i was like i was angry at the time you know but then like

realizing now like I shouldn't have said some of those things yeah but you were you're also a baby raising a baby right so you guys are learning what to do and what not to do during this time are you having babies another baby well I had Ella and then I haven't had one for like another three and a half years okay gotcha

It's crazy. Yeah. Really. That's a lot. When you recap everything, it's really nuts. So when... Really. When does it start calming down? Like, where are you guys at now? When we move back to the town that we're in now. Well, things didn't even really calm down still. Like, you know, we're filming and stuff. Right. But... It's still a shit show. Right. We still have to deal with her. Like... Do you guys ever get tired of filming? Do you ever wish you didn't have to? Oh, yes. Definitely. All the time. Mm-hmm.

All the time. Do you guys do it just because of, you know, of course it's a great paycheck and it supports your family. Right. And I think we also do it because of our fans. Our fans are a big thing. Like, honestly, I don't care if I did get paid another dime. I really do enjoy, like, social media. I enjoy TV because... We enjoy just getting on TikTok talking to our fans. There's a lot of people... Like, yeah, the money's nice. I'm not gonna lie. Oh, I mean, hello. That's why we're all doing the shit we do. But, like, we gotta have money to survive. Absolutely. It's just the truth, but...

I do enjoy getting on TikTok. I do enjoy, like, doing the show because the amount of love that I have in my inbox and how many people that I've saved from, like, committing suicide or... Or, like, their moms are doing the same thing. Or their moms are doing the same thing. They don't know how to deal with it. And, like, I'm answering these questions for those people, you know? And, like, that to me means more than anything. Like, I actually want to get into, like, motivational speaking because a lot of people don't talk about it, you know? Like, when we do media stuff, we'll sit there and talk...

She's like, when did it calm down? First of all, mama had four boyfriends in between that time after Gino. Are you fucking kidding me? No, I'm not fucking kidding. Like, there isn't a point where it's like, we're chill. Like, that's what I'm saying. It's always some fucking shit with my mom. But it simmers down some more. Who came along? Okay, so she's missing all her teeth and fucking. Okay, well then she finally goes back to the. Gino's still around. Yeah, then she finally goes back to the last rehab and Gino was like, hey. He honestly told us. He was like, I'm so fucking sick of doing dope. Aw.

Is he still alive? Yeah. Okay. So they went down to one down, it's called Banyan down in Florida. I don't know. St. Paul, Lucy area. It's apparently like a big known one. Banyan was like supposedly really good for her. And I mean like, I feel like it was good. And I do feel like, yeah, she stayed sober and stuff, but I do still have my questions. You know, I feel like.

Like, not trying to be mean. I'm sure people still question you. You know, like, do people still do that to you? No, they know I'm sober now. Yeah. Okay. Well, she's sober, too. She's been sober for two years, but I still question her just because she gives me the signs. Maybe not me. That's your mom. Yeah, like, you probably don't give the signs off like you would. That's your mom, too. You guys have a lot of hurt and a lot of pain there. And it's like... It's almost like you feel like if you give her the benefit of the doubt, she's gonna hurt you again. Because it's already been done. Definitely. I...

we definitely don't even like wish for the best anymore. We already just thank the word. Yeah, honestly. Right, exactly. Exactly. Because you guys have been fucking. Yeah. I think at one point in her addiction, I was literally like, I'm just going to get a call and she's going to be dead. At one point in her addiction, I was literally like praying to God that my mama did not die. Yeah. Aww.

I hate that for you guys. You guys are so... And I don't hate to keep reiterating it, but you guys are literally so young to be saying this about your mom. I hope she listens to this and hears how much you guys love her still. No matter all the shit she's put you guys through, you guys still don't wish harm on her and just want her to be your mama. I mean, yeah. That's literally all I want because...

After she got clean and stuff, her and Gino were still living together, but his drinking was still an issue. We went down and visited two years ago when they were living down in Florida, and we went and took the kids to Disney World. And she was only able to go one day with us because she couldn't leave Gino at home by himself. She was saying that the whole time. She was like, I can't leave him at home by himself. He's going to be pissed drunk when I get back, and it's just going to be bad for all of us. He would have at least two 30-packs a day almost. It was insane. They ended up having this stomach surgery together where he couldn't eat.

I guess beer was just getting old. You know, the gastric bypass. Oh, okay. So that gastric bypass, right? So, but is that what mama did too to lose weight? Yeah. Okay. When you seen Gino, you seen a beer in his hand.

Right. So I don't know if beer just got to be a thing where it was fucking with his gastric bypass sleeve or whatever. So he started drinking wine. But they thought that was better though. They were like, oh, so he's drinking wine. So he really is doing better. Like that's what she would tell us when we come and visit him. We'd be out playing cards. She's like, it's okay. He's drinking wine. So he's doing better. But like even before it like really went the fuck downhill and we were not staying there, June would be like, oh, his drinking has really calmed down, blah, blah,

And then he'd go over there. And he'd be piss fucking drunk. Or you'd go over there in the fucking entire fridge in the garage. She'd put the fridge in the garage so he didn't know. And he'd be filled with Bud Light. Wow. It was insane. Anyways, um...

After the Florida stuff, like, they split up. She finally got the fucking balls up to leave him. Finally. Finally. She did it dirty, though. She did do it dirty. She did do it dirty. But that's June. She does everybody dirty. She did do it dirty. She did it dirty, but, like, at this point, like, thank God you finally left him. Maybe that's what she had to do to break it off with him. She did. So what happened? She was scary.

She is. She was just too scared to come. Like he's okay. Listen. So I was at the courthouse. We were filming. Okay. When she broke it off with him and she told him, she was like, I just don't think this is working anymore. He was like, are you breaking up with me? He was like, I just don't get why you have to do this. Like on national TV. Like why you can't just talk to me. And at this point, like,

He was still drinking and stuff, but that was just him being real about the situation. You could definitely tell in that scene that he was hurt. Honestly, yeah, he was definitely hurt, but like he just wanted her to be honest. Different Gino from trying to shit on her face, you know, so that's good. Right. At least he had some feelings. But you could definitely tell he was hurt. Like you could just tell by the tone of his voice. But I will say that although, here's the thing, he was never shitty to me.

He never abused me. He never said any shitty stuff to me. Like, I mean, other than the stuff he obviously said, you know, to Alana when she was living there, but like, it's just hard because I do still wish him well. Like he's still staying in a rehab, I think in like North Carolina or something. And I have talked to him a few times and I, like, I just, I get it as adults.

it's okay that you and my mom didn't work out, but I don't wish you harm. I do wish you the best. And my mom gets mad about that, but she gets really angry that we even like try to even one of these. She's like, he abused me and all this stuff. But like, I never seen it. Okay. But wait, wait, mom, you want us to protect you, but you never protected us. Right. You're not protecting yourself. Yeah. So that's that victim mentality. And that's why she is where she is. My mom has that. My mom had that same mentality too. And,

that victim mentality gets you nowhere we'll see after she left gino she got the 24 year old yeah get on to boyfriend number i mean okay so listen if i'm ever in that position i might get a 24 year old too i'm just kidding like i like i like him young get on to the what you call the only reason she left gino after we told her for a year and a fucking half like you need to leave him just be done with the situation like how does mama june pull these motherfuckers i'm trying to tell you like the money the money everybody really is the money you put money

put money i was like she's got the platinum gonna go for it and honest to god the dude that she was with he was 24 he actually did a podcast with another girl on youtube and he straight up admitted like he said yeah like who wouldn't do it for money like he told tiktok everybody like i mean he was i mean at least he was honest about it though he had brought him a car but he did say that she moved too quickly like she wanted him to be in love with her and she thought that

you know, buying him a car and buying him all these plane tickets to Vegas and the Hoover Dam and all this stuff that he would love her. Fully furnishing the house. Fully furnishing. She brought her a car. She brought him a car. Mama June is a sugar mama. She's a wooer. She will woo you over in a heartbeat. He said a lure. No, actually, no. She's a wooer for the men, though. Because...

I need a car right now, and she has brought Gino two cars and the one dude one car and has yet to even offer to give me any money to even put on a car. Yeah. It's just fucked up, man. There's just a lot of fucked up shit behind the scenes that nobody sees, dude. And it bothers the fuck out of me, bro. That's really the only reason I have the feelings I have towards you is because of the fucked up shit that has come a part of this work. I think you got a bigger on the tip of your nose. Don't do that, bro. Eat it.

Cut that out, Corrine. Cut that out, Corrine. Cut that out. Sorry, I'm just letting you know, though. Yeah.

That's just so hurtful. Like, I know I sound like a broken record, but I mean, that's just so wrong that she would rather, you know, buy somebody else a car besides her own daughter. So now that you get to hear it in real life. Yeah. I mean, like she, but she does that with everything though. But I under, I also understand where they're coming from, where like as much toxicity as they've been through, um,

You they say when you go through heartbreak, there's like a chemical that releases in your brain that bonds you to that person. Right. Like and so literally it hurts more like when you're broken up. And that's kind of like the same thing whenever you're going through something like that, especially with a mom. Like each time they're getting their heart broken, it's just this bond that's getting it's like a toxic bond.

you know, it's almost like a domestic violence relationship. Right. You know, like it's just that toxic bond. Exactly. It's like you almost get used to the pain. Yeah. Like if life is too normal, you, you want to feel that hurt because you want to feel alive again, you know, because it's all you're used to. So, you know, that's just, it's fucked up.

It is. It's crazy because she just did everything for him. She was like, you know, I've really changed. How long did they stay together and was she sober? She was sober at the time, but he was not. The 24 year old. He was like just freshly out of rehab, just freshly out of jail. He actually had shot up his like girlfriend's apartment like a couple months prior to the meeting. And then she would call us all the time and be like, well, I found drugs in Jordan's room. Or Jordan's relapsed again. And I'm like,

Not surprised. Not, not, you know, like literally nothing this woman could do could surprise me anymore. Honestly. Well, who came after the 24 year old? Well, then now it's Justin, which is now her husband. No, she really went to that other man that she was. Oh no, she did this fucking thing. Okay, girl. First of all, she was fucking 50 million and 50 states. Okay. First of all, sorry, excuse my language, but like, it's just a God's honest truth because she posted this. Sounds like a movie. Yeah.

Huge ordeal. Our life is a death limb. And she started it with the original 24-year-old. She started it with him at first. 50 states and 50 weeks or whatever. 50 states and 50 weeks. Then she did it, started doing it with another man. Oh, so she's traveling? Yeah, she was like traveling. She was doing stuff. She was like, I have to go to different rehabs and help people get better or help somebody get better in another state. Is somebody paying her to do this? No, she was just doing it. On her own. And paying it out of her own pocket. Okay. And...

Okay. Which seems helpful and nice and sweet. But she's still so freshly in recovery. It's like, get like...

six seven eight years under your belt and take no time to herself right right exactly it has to always be about her though that's the thing she's got to work through her childhood trauma she's never gonna get better she's not mentally prepared for it no because her reality of it and the little small reality that she lives in is that as much as she has fucked us over she thinks that i'm just supposed to get up

Get the fuck over myself. Get over the past because this is what she always says to me. She says, y'all are always living in the past and we can't move forward because you're living there. Of course I'm fucking living there because it was two years of shit you did to me. Sounds like your mom's a narcissist. Very much. She was like, I left Gino. I did everything you guys wanted me to. I went to rehab and y'all still just can't get over it. What? Like, you know. She was like, and I'm clean. It takes time. You don't get to. Baby girl, just because you're clean doesn't mean you've changed. Right. You don't get to tell people how to heal. I guess she doesn't know time heals everything.

Like for real. It hasn't even been that much time though. Exactly. You know, like it takes a lot of time to heal from all the shit you guys have done. And like who is she to tell me when I can, you know, decide when to heal, you know? Absolutely. Never let anybody tell you guys how long to heal. Like healing is a personal journey that you guys are going to go through on your own. Right. So what's going on now? She's got a new boyfriend. Now she's got a husband. Okay.

When she actually tried to hide the marriage from us. Well, hold on. Wait a minute before we get there. Wait, wait, wait a minute. Okay. Last season, there's been a few times in between this story that...

Mama has said things to me like when I've had, I had temporary guardianship over Alana. It was because DFAX granted that to me when the Coke story come out. That's amazing. And, but it was just temporary guardianship. It was just some bullshit through probate court, something that could have been canceled at any point, anytime. Right. Well, one year after I had Bentley, I didn't renew it and mama would always use it against me. And she's like, well, Alana staying with you, you know, like I can get her back anytime I want to, like she's mine, all this stuff. And,

And I just like, just because she's sober, she hasn't changed anything about her. She's still all about the men. She's still about spending all the money on the men. Like none of her behavior has changed at all. And I was like, Alana would never go live with you. Like, I'm sorry. So last year,

I decided to get custody of her. Started to try to start the process. We went and seen a few lawyers. Um, kind of got like, you would think it would be a shut in case, fucking situation, shut and close situation. All of this. And then we could just close the case and be done with it. Yeah. That's what we thought too.

until i found a lawyer and she agreed to do like i didn't have ten thousand dollars i was honest to god like a couple of months ago if it hadn't been for social media and the show coming back like i was dead broke yeah my car payment was behind my light bill was behind like josh was working but like it's only one fucking income and like i'm taking care of two kids already i think i was pregnant with the twins and stuff like right before i had the twins so i couldn't work right and

You look great for having twins, by the way. You look great for having four kids. Thanks, girl. I do got a little foofy, but it's okay. It's all right, baby. You got it. She loves it. Obviously, you guys got four fucking kids. Oh, yeah. But, you know... Fuck, what was I saying? You didn't realize how hard it was going to be to get custody of Alana. Okay, yeah. So...

Um, last season we went to Vegas and I had to have her sign actual like full legal sole custody papers. I was so nervous because the lawyer had already told me, she's like, I'm telling you, I'm going to write it up for you and everything. She was like, but she can say she'll give up custody of Lana.

but when it's on paper it's a completely different thing but me in my mind i knew for a fact that she would write that she would sign the papers i just didn't think so like me being a mom at this point being a mom for like almost five years you know what i'm saying i'm like this is like i don't think she's gonna do this i would never right well because she laughed in my freaking face she

This might be daddy. Uh-huh. Might be daddy. Oh, oh, he's ready. He's ready. That's guard dog Chach. Yeah, his little butt. Scoot. Hi, handsome. Oh, shit. We got it on big TV now? Oh, yeah. We're moving up in here. We're moving up in here. He said this is fun.

Hey. Hi. Hold on, I'll get out. Man, you're going to make me cry, bro, looking at you, bro. Oh, God, man. You know how much your music has saved me from going down some bad roads, bro? You'd be blown, dude. Thank you.

Baby you smell like a fucking weed cloud I swear he smokes and just I did eat edibles for a come here Josh was like baby don't eat those you're gonna be fucked up on the podcast I thought it was like yo bro just uh Oh you know he just went to Vegas No hell yeah you guys got hella edibles Yeah just love y'all Oh we love you Thank you You too

Thank you. I told her, I said, I'm not only proud of, I know you hear this all the time, of what you stepped up and have done, but how y'all also stepped up and got together in y'all little foxhole and said, let's continue to make a business of what we've already been exploring. Let's at least take leadership of this. It's a business aspect from it. And it's taken us a long time to get there. When this all happened, had to get in the foxhole and go, let's call a spade a spade.

It's a hustle. We still need to find a way to monetize. Yeah, for real. I thought that was just, you know, at the end of the day, that's just kind of one of those things. What I tell people is, I don't want nobody's money. But if somebody's going to get paid from what we do, I'd like to get the money. Right, yeah, exactly. You're exactly right. We all agree nobody's getting money.

free. Yeah, that's fine. You know what I'm saying? We agree. Nobody's making no money, no problem. But if we're going to make money, I like, if I'm doing it. Right. Yeah. That was cool to see y'all parallel that and continue to push forward. Oh yeah, thank you. I appreciate that. I'm a fan of y'all and you and just your growth and you just turned into a young woman and just, but really to see the

Baby, when you hear this podcast, I didn't, you know, we don't follow everything. So they've been telling me what I was just telling her. Yeah. I was like, I tell them like they should do a whole season of like behind the scenes. Yeah. Like real deal. The shit they've been through and to be as wholesome and well-rounded and just they, they love each other so much. Like they have each other. They're like us, you know, like they've just been through so much shit and they just decided to just,

you know, buck up, be a family and fucking do it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I told Josh that all the time. I was like, baby, we ain't gonna be broke forever. Like two months ago, you know, like I told Josh, I was like, we're not gonna be broke forever. It's going to be okay. Yeah. You get past that shit, you know, we've been up and down.

I mean, I was with him when he was having to count out 535 at the fucking cookout. Do you hear me? Not a penny over. The fucking lady at the drive-thru out broke. She was like, yo, this is 538. And I was like, bitch, yesterday it was 535. I remember. We've had our ups and downs, man. We've come a long way. Same, yeah. That's what real family and real love does, though. But I was listening to this man since Welcome to the Trap House. We love Welcome to the Trap House. Thank you.

Wouldn't that be insane? Smoking one with them. Wouldn't that be insane for you? Yeah, it definitely freaking out. All right. So let's dive back into it real quick. Where were we? I forgot. Um...

I know there's been so much y'all I'm so sorry there has no no we appreciate it oh mama getting married so the guy she's been married it's gonna be like a three hour long podcast yeah so she so last year I went and got custody yes so I just started the custody process and last year in Vegas I was super nervous and I was like hey listen I need you to sign these papers but I didn't read them to her because that is not my job when like even if someone else would have served her with the paperwork like they're not gonna sit there and read them they're not gonna sit there like that is your job although you're blind it's your job

So there was Although you're blind Like she is legally blind in one eye And then partially blind in the other eye But like that bitch can see money I'm gonna tell you right now You steal a dollar from her She gonna know She can sniff it out She was just like yeah yeah She was like laughing and giggling about the whole situation She was like yeah here you go You got a 16 year old now

Well, then that paperwork didn't end up working out for me because my lawyer had to get a new one and she agreed to do everything pro bono because we were going to promote her on the show. And she was like, I need to get these papers signed in Georgia. So she had my mom come in. Mom was like, well, I need you to read these to me and da da da. Somebody got in her ear.

Yeah, I'm assuming. Well, she read that there was child support. She flipped a fucking wig, deadass, in my face, told me, which I'm still livid to this day that they did not put that on the show. She deadass looked me in my face and said, I would rather sign over any rights to Alana than give you any money. And the producers and the cameramen of the show were sitting just like Alana. They were all just sitting there like...

And they didn't put that in. Fucking astounded. Had no idea what to say. I wasn't there. Like, what the fuck? Pumpkin called me in a fucking rage. I wasn't there either. I was ill. Like, she rode with me there, right? When we were done with that scene, I said, you can find your own fucking ride home. I don't give a fuck if you're just on the curb all night. Because you, like, that was...

She has done a lot of things to put the icing on the fucking cake, but that one right there just put the sugar in the sweet. And when she calls. It's like you want somebody to take care of your daughter, but you don't want to fucking help. Right. That's so. But like you say that in front of your other daughter's face about your other daughter. Like, how do you even say that? My thing is we wasn't asking for you to pay 30 grand a month. We wasn't asking for any all that much, but you can go out here and spend 20 grand at a time on one watch on a man. Right.

And so, um, five, six grains on five, six grand on fucking change. She literally told me in there, she was like, I'll give you a couple hundred dollars a month. She was like, and that's it. That's all I can do. That's all I can afford. Because at the time we didn't know if the show was going to be getting picked up. Couldn't they garnish her wages? If she just, no, because we get like no taxes. Did I not?

Wow. Yeah. Right under the table. But she does get some security. But so like, if we don't have the show, that's her like only income. So that's when we went to court back in May of this year, she, or back in April of this year, she literally said in front of the judge, she was like, that's my only income. We don't know if we're going to get another show. And,

And da-da-da-da, well, a few weeks after we signed an $800 agreement for child support, we got signed for another season. I mean, we could have went back, but we did not play funny with her. She was supposed to pay me $2,500. And it pisses me off, too, because they decided to do it at the worst fucking time, bro. I literally had three great job opportunities that were going to lead into careers. Yeah.

And I know that I make more with the show than I do starting out at a job the first year. But Josh would really rather work. I do. I've been working my... That's why you hear my joints and shit cracking all the time is because I've done basically manual labor my entire life. Like, I've worked with my hands and worked with my back since I was...

old enough to work with my dad and I've worked up until filming filming will leave I'll go back to work right pumpkin knows I can't stand it and it's nothing to do with being at home with her or the kids well it's just you feel productive when you're working I feel like I'm I'm doing something for my family yeah he does not like it when he's just standing there like I'm so fucking bored like he's driving him I was like I could be building a fucking house right now I mean it could be that he's bored or that pumpkin's

aggravating him we don't really know right but i have enjoyed the time at home with my kids i really have every every moment of it every time i've got to stay at home with her it's been enjoyable every second of it i love it and i would say ill likes having him around yeah she does she's like you're not going to stupid work today oh jachi's just letting everybody know he's here so did she finally sign

She did finally sign, and she agreed to $800 a month in child support, but literally she just played dumb the entire time. She was like, I just thought this was an adoption process. Like, why would I adopt? Like,

She's like all pissed because she's like, you did me dirty trying to go behind my back and get the child support. No bitch going like to me, dirty would have been getting you to sign over your rights. Right. Like, but I didn't want to go that far. Like I didn't want to make you be that parent. Right. Like I was trying to do everything like the best way I knew how, you know, without like trying to piss anybody off at the time.

And it was just like, she didn't care about that. Alana, are you okay with that decision? Would you rather be with Pumpkin? And like, you know, like how did that make you feel? I mean, I would rather be with Pumpkin because like,

The relationship I'm being a pumpkin have, it's not like a mother-daughter relationship. It's more of like still a sister-sister relationship. But like when she needs to be a mother. Hold on one second. Chachi, come on, clankety-clank. It sounds just like country. Come here. Come here. So what were you saying, though? You would, being with pumpkins, like a sister relationship? Yeah, like being with pumpkins, like more of a sister relationship. Like when she has to be a mom, like she will put her foot down and be like, I will put my foot down.

You need to go, you need to get your grades up. Like, like if I bring her home with a port card and it got an 80 on it, she'd be like, what's this 80 coming from? Yeah. What's it coming from? Yeah. Do you miss your mom at all or do you miss what you guys used to have? I'm like, I miss like what we used to be, like where we used to just like sit there and just take random trips or like we just all used to be like one big old family. But like now, like I've come to realize that like this is my family now. Yeah. So. That's amazing. And that's so cool. I just think that's a long time to get to this point. Yeah.

Oh, no. When I first got Lana, Lana did not want to say shit. She was very angry at us. And I get it. She didn't know how to express any of that stuff and shit like that. But over time... That's how it was when we first got... We were very open about it a lot. When we first got custody of Bailey, it was the same way. She was mad at us. She didn't understand it. And I still think sometimes she's still mad at us. But now that her mom is back in her life full time, I think she realizes what was best for her. Right. So...

It's a process, you know? It definitely is. That's just growing and glowing is exactly what you guys are doing. How did you guys get this TV show now that you guys have? Did they come to you about it or did you go to them? It was just a runoff.

Yeah, well, it wasn't really like a runoff. What's it called? It was like when my mom very first like went from big, big old big girl to like skinny, skinny girl. Yeah, it was like. She just basically ran off of that first season. Yeah. What is it called? Is it still Hot or Not? No, it's Mama Jean Road to Redemption, but it's been a long motherfucking road. Oh. Yeah.

That's not the name of the day. Is she redeemed is the question. It is. Mama Jean Road to Redemption, girl. But it's not Mama Jean Road to Redemption, but it's been a long fucking road. I know. But I'm just saying, like, for three seasons, that's been the name of it. And I'm like, this is a long motherfucking road. I'm telling you right now. Like, when is she going to be redeemed? I want to know. So many people just want our own show. Like, no June, no nothing. There's a lot of my comments that I want to know.

say that they're like where do we sign the position the petition yeah yeah whatever it is I'm like even on my little social media like people send me messages through Instagram 24 7 they're like we don't understand why you guys can't have your own show why can't they just delete June's out of your life I think I would like it to be like that but in the same respect I think they like the drama that June brings it's the drama yep

They don't want wholesome We're on the women's entertainment network So come on like women are all about the drama Yeah they don't want wholesome They got Rodzilla on there Age is just a number But older women love

drama and when i say we're talking about like 60s oh yeah i love it i love some good juicy tv drama have you not watched the golden girls like they love it yeah i love the golden girls so what does us next year bring for you guys if you guys could have a perfect 2023 what would you guys say big wanna graduate yes

So you're graduating? She graduates in May. I'm so proud of you, girl. Thank you. Fuck yeah. All the shit you've been through, that's such an inspiration for girls your age. Yes. Like, that's amazing. That's a really big deal. And she just got her fucking driver's license finally. Yay. Is she a good driver? She doesn't really drive nowhere yet. Okay, good. She was like, well, I should have let you drove to Tennessee. I was like, wow. No, ma'am.

You're like, no, thank you. No, thank you. She's a little rough on the brakes. Oh, yeah. She's going to have to... But me, personally, I would prefer to be the passenger princess. There you go. We know you would. There you go. She's got to be a little bit more independent. Like, you've got your old man driving you around and stuff like that. But my boyfriend takes me everywhere I need to go. Okay, yeah. So that was... I do know...

Because of TikTok, that was a huge controversy. You have a boyfriend that's a little bit older than you. Yeah, and I think it's not so much the age, too. I also think because he's a different race than me as well. How much older is he? He's 21. And you're 17? Yeah. 18, 19, 20, 21. That's four years. That's the same thing as me and Bunkin'.

So it's not that bad. I mean, I understand what people are saying because 17, 21. But when you get to be 21 and he's fucking what? 26? It's going to be okay. I tell people, I'll be like, half of y'all's moms are like 43 and their dads are like 70. So get out of my face. Did I add wrong? No.

So I, listen, man, I can count money, but I cannot do math. I've told you motherfuckers this a million times. I can't do math. How old would he be? 25? Okay. I was one year off. I was one year off. I said 24. I know. Yeah. Like I'm one year off.

No, for sure. But that's not that bad. And as long as he's treating you good, how do you like, do you like him? I would say, like, honest to God, my kids love Draylon. His family is super respectful. Draylon's always been super respectful. Like, he holds his shit down. He does what he has to do. You know what I'm saying? Like, he pays his bills. He's grown. Like. Does he have kids or anything? No. Oh, good. Oh, girl, I can't do that now. Yeah. I don't know what he is. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, pumpkin kids are enough. Do you want to have kids one day? One day, but definitely not right now. What happens after high school for you? What do you want to do? I want to go be a neonatal nurse. Oh, good for you. So you're going to get right into college or you're going to take a break? Yeah, I'm going to go.

right into college. I think Pumpkin's gonna make you get right into college. I feel like if she takes a break, she's not gonna continue. I'm gonna probably get right into it either way, though. Yeah. Good for you. I'm proud of you. What do you guys want to do for 2023? What is it? I know you guys have a growing family. Oh, yeah. Well, bitch, I got my two-tide. Fuck that shit. Maybe number six may be on the way. Were the twins a surprise? So, I mean, we were definitely not using protection or anything, but like...

Definitely unexpected. See, when she told me she had twins, I was like, bitch or lying. I thought that I was going to have three. I was like, okay, I'm fine with three. He was like, his mom had three. He was like, okay. They put the little sonogram thing and Josh was talking about some, oh, shit. Oh, no. And I told her, I was like, listen, I was like, when we get home,

I need you to find the title to my Harley. And she was like, why? And I was like, I'm going to have to sell my boat too. Oh no. And she's like, why are we selling all this shit? I was like, we're going to have to fucking build an addition onto the house, bro. And she's like, what? Tell me what the fuck is going on. And I was like, there's two. She was like, Josh was in the room and she was like, Josh, she was like, Josh said, um, I've, she's done this a lot and I've never seen two of them. Yeah. He's like, I've never seen two in there at the same time. Wow. That sonogram chick, the nurse. And I was like, listen, I was like, oh,

I've been around twice now. Yeah. I'm a seasoned vet. All right. Most definitely. I was like, and I've never seen two. She was like, congratulations. I was like, you're like, yeah, maybe for you. But now you guys have the babies and you just, and what are, what's all of their names? There's Ella. So we have Ella Bentley, Silas and Stella. Oh, I love that. And Lana. And Lana.

I love that. Ella literally thanks Alana's her sister. For you guys, you guys have really turned your shit around and I'm really proud of you guys. If nobody's told you guys, I'm sure millions do, but I'm really proud of you guys. It's like our whole heart of lead though. You know what I'm saying? From another million besides you and shit like that. Yeah, no, it just is really cool for you guys to,

are just really leading by example. And kids that come from the same story and have the same drug addicted parents can look at you guys and be like, dude, look at them. Alana is about to graduate high school. Pumpkin's a fucking bomb ass mom. She's married to a great dude who fucking has her back. You know, like that's what the world needs to see. And if the TV show was fucking smart, they're going to hate those. They would fucking hone in on that a lot

more on that storyline you know because I think that there's so much more than the drama absolutely like drama is toxic very we need there's so much toxicity in this world already we need the love with the love needs to come to a point you know like after all that shit like even with my mom like I had to cut her off because it was just like so are you guys not talking right now like it's strictly what feels like almost like a business relationship you know like she strictly gives me the $800 a month but like

Every so often she'll do this like bashing thing on TikTok about me and she'll be like on live and she'll be like, well, Pumpkin, I don't know. She was like, I was late on the child support, she said, because I don't know if Pumpkin's account is overdrawn or not. Like, you know that I've been doing very well on social media for myself. When I say like very well, like very decently well. Right.

than what you would think somebody's supposed to make in a year and you're gonna say some shit like that on social media it's just jealousy right it's pure jealousy she's very jealous of that her and her husband both recently she wants you to hurt like she does yeah and recently she just like started reaching out to us like sent us this big long text about how she was so sorry I think me and you talked about that um

And you just don't believe it. It's hard for me to believe because right now I feel like she only is saying that stuff because she needs me to do something for her. She wants all of us girls to get up and walk her down the aisle for her wedding next year or wherever the hell it's going to be. So it's this pity text message trying to get these two and Jessica to participate in something that she wants done. And guess what? It always goes back to what we said at the beginning of this. It's only about you.

She's very selfish. I feel like, me personally, I don't want to do it because she hasn't been there for all of us. What makes you think that we should be there for you? Is it being televised? Yes. Oh, well, there you go. So you know I'll probably have to be there. Yeah, there you go. You'll have to do it for the televised part. But it is. As of right now, I mean, I talked to her. She texted me while I was in Vegas, but that's just being nosy. I already know. She's like, you know how I was bubbing Angela, and then I'm like, you don't really care about any of that stuff. You don't. You just want to see how I'm doing.

You can give a damn list, dude. She really could care less. It's like Chili Hot Phil. I hate that for you guys. But 2023, what do you guys want to do that is for you? Not revolved around your mom, nothing. I think that I'm just going to keep doing me. I'm going to try to keep building my social media stuff. Yeah, you're crushing it, man. I really want to do YouTube.

Like that is definitely my next thing. You've got the following now on TikTok. It'll just translate over. That's definitely something that I want to try to do. Like if I'm going to, I can't work because it's very hard. Like if I was to go and work a regular job, like somebody's going to watch our kids. Somebody's going to watch my kids. And I do not trust everybody. It's very hard. I mean, like, come on. I told you earlier. Rightfully so that you guys don't trust people. I get it. Right. So, um,

it's very hard, you know? And like, if I was to work, like my check would strictly be going to the job. Make your own business to where you can work from home. That's definitely what I want to do. We definitely need to talk about making a business, like a boutique or something. I definitely enjoy being at home with my kids. You guys can do an online boutique. Definitely. Yeah. And that, cause you know, in-store boutiques are, everybody's getting closed down now, but online boutiques, like we need a cool, especially out here in the South,

They don't have shit, dude. Yeah, and like a cheaper one because there's a lot of like people that I've seen. Yeah, like one shirt would be like $50. Like, come on, bro. Like, I've been that girl before wanting the cute little like boutique clothes. And like a plus size girl too, there's not much of it. Yeah, I think you guys are onto something. I just want to do my own thing. Yeah, he does. He wants to do like a food truck or something. Yeah. He wants a taco truck. Yeah.

Right now is the time. He wants to do a Philly cheesesteak drive. Josh loves tacos and Philly cheesesteaks. I mean, who doesn't? I do. I love that shit too. I'm swinging at making both. Yeah, I love that. Hold your microphone. Yeah, I just stopped even reminding him. I think it'll be hilarious. Welcome back to Jimmy Fallon. I think it'll be hilarious for people. Try to hold it at least right here so you can hear me. Well, I just want to thank you guys. This is Saturday Night Live.

Yeah. Oh, God. I just want to thank you guys for coming on the podcast and thank you guys for having us. Thank you. Thank you guys for being so open. And I hope people now can actually kind of feel your side of the story and hear, you know, the behind the scenes that people didn't get to hear a lot of shit I didn't know, you know, and it's just like puts a lot of things into perspective.

And I just want to say you guys are just amazing people. You guys got to come back. Well, definitely. You better come back. We're going to make this like our monthly trip. Yeah, yearly. At least once a year, you guys got to come back each season. All right. Well, thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Dumb Blonde. I will see you guys next week. Bye.