Pumpkin and Alana Part 1: Addiction, Abuse, and Sticking Together
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- All right, gentlemen, coming to main stage next, this is Bunny. Get up there, she's got a tornado of titties coming your way. Get those dollar bills ready. She's got an ass that shakes like Michael J. Fox. So get up there and throw, throw, throw them dollars. - Dude, that is fucking iconic. What's up, you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome to another episode of "Dumb Blonde." Today, I've got some icons in the building. If you don't know who these two are, you guys are living under a fucking rock. Pumpkin and Alana, what's up, baby?

How are you guys doing? Good. Doing good. Josh is here too. He's just sitting off to the side staring at Chachi right now. Yeah, he is. He's out there snoring. Yeah, they're having a stare off right now. Oh.

What are you guys doing in Nashville? You guys just came to see me or do you guys come here often or what's the deal with that? This is literally our second time I think. Wow. We literally come just for you. Just for you. I love that. Thank you guys so much. I'm so happy to have you guys here because, you know, I feel like you guys live your lives differently.

literally under a microscope. We were just talking about that and you guys are followed around by cameras 24-7 and I feel like you don't ever really get the chance to just sit down and be off the record. Even though we're kind of on the record, you don't get to just sit down and just kind of tell your full story in one spot, you know? Right. So that's what I want to do with you guys today. I want to talk about, I want to start from like before the cameras were even around.

Where were you guys, you know, what's the age difference between you guys? So Alana's 17, I'm 22. Okay, gotcha. So not that big of an age difference. No, it's really not. Wow, I never realized that. You are so young. I didn't realize that. Yeah. Aw, you're a little baby. I am a little baby. That's great. But you're so, the way you present yourself is so mature and just so like...

I love that. You're a very special woman. I love that. We'll get into that though. You and I have exchanged text messages. Yeah. Um, so let's start from the beginning. Where are you guys from? Where were you born? So we were born and raised. Um, I was at least in a little town in Henry County, like east of Atlanta. Um, my mama met sugar bear, um, right. Um,

You got to say it with the accent. Sugar bear. But then we moved to McIntyre. Which is in where? Georgia, right? Yeah, it's in Georgia. It's also like an hour and a half south of Atlanta. Nobody would know where that little town is. Gotcha. Nobody. So then Alana came along. But like growing up, like we were broke. Like we had to ask D-Facts for Christmas. Like...

We were living in a trailer park at one point, you know, bouncing from different trailers in the trailer park. Represent for all the trailer park girls, baby. Trailer park princess right here. Right here, baby. Let's go. But it was rough. Like, I remember having roaches in the house. And then when I was 11 and Alana was 6...

she got the Towers and Tiaras thing. Right. And it just blew up from there, really. So, Alana, growing up, you know, in a trailer and having that background that you did, when you went to go do these pageants, right? Towers and Tiaras. I forget because that was so long ago now. It's just crazy. When you were going to do these pageants, how did you feel? Did you feel like you, you know, were part of the crowd or did you feel like you just weren't a part of the crowd? Yeah.

I feel like I was a part of the crowd because for some reason, my mom always made me a part of the crowd. She always made sure I had the best dress. She always made sure I had the best outfit. I had the best hair and makeup artist. So I felt like I was definitely a part of the crowd. Gotcha. That's awesome. Actually, that's really cool that Mama June did that for you. I think that's awesome. Those dresses weren't cheap. No, hell no. And that pageant work? No, they just took like $3,000. No, for sure. And that's my next question is how did you get involved in pageants?

Really, it was like Pumpkin said, we're from a little town. And we have a, I mean, ran down mall. And they have a little mall pageant. And maybe it's like five competitors, maybe tops. And I was in it and my mom was like, well, you did so good in that pageant. Maybe we should go put you in another pageant.

So then we did another one, then we did another one, another one, another one. And then was she ever like the typical pageant mom or was it definitely all the way, all the way? Oh, really? Work it, smoochie, like out in the crowd doing the routine. I mean, in the crowd doing the routine. Hold on one second. Should we get him the microphone? All right. So you were saying when you first met Mama June, what?

About the pageant? Oh my God, dude, so listen. Hold it closer to your mouth. You're like a talk show host right now. Hold it way down here. Like the price is right. We can hear your stomach gurgling. Oh God, yeah.

So the first time I met any of them, Pumpkin still didn't know who I was, but I had already personally kind of seen everybody. June is screaming at the bottom of the stage at Alana. Oh, no. In front of the entire city. And our city is probably, what, 200 folks? I mean, yeah, it's really not that big. But Alana was the center of attention. It was embarrassing for Alana, I'm sure. You know when you go to school and your mom drops you off and she's like, oh, bye, honey. Bye.

honey, I love you. You're like, fuck off. You know, like that's how I felt in the moment. Like every time we did a pageant, she's just like,

this big, you know, at the time she was also like a bigger lady. I mean, I'm not judging cause I am too, but I'm just saying like, she's out there, she's got her stomach out of her shirt and everything, like just dancing around like a fool. And I'm like, what are you doing? So how did, so toddlers and tiaras, was it a show that you had to try out for, or was it a pageant? And then the show came. Um, so like you did a pageant and like, basically like if,

Like they would just come to random pageants kind of. Okay, gotcha. Well, see, like one of her friends was actually doing it. Yeah. At the time. And then they seen how goofy and crazy like we were. So they were like, okay, we have to have her on there. Gotcha. And then once TLC had us on Tolerant Sierras, they was like,

The views are so good when y'all are on here. We have to have y'all's own show. Yeah, they were like, you guys are fucking... So that's how Here Come Honey Boo Boo comes. TV Gold. Yeah, crazy. So you guys went from toddlers and tiaras...

filming that to having your own show like how does that feel how old are you guys whenever this I was 11 Alana was six god you guys have literally grown up on TV yeah like that's insane and for you guys to be as wholesome and sweet as you guys still are like that speaks volumes

We've also had to come a long way. Yeah. But even you saying that is like, that's self-reflection. Like, that's amazing that you can even do that, but we'll get to all that. Um, so, okay. You guys get your own TV show. These cameras are in your faces. It's the first day of filming or the first week of filming. Walk me through that. How are you guys feeling? Um,

I can't say that it was awkward though because like definitely it was just like something we were just already comfortable with but it was just like yeah like it was just like immune to it I guess yeah I guess when you're being real it's not hard you know right like but this show that show was so different from what we have now you know like that was for reality like they would come in the house at you know maybe 10 or 11 o'clock in the morning and

No hair and makeup. No hair and makeup. No clothes. Like, you wore whatever the hell you woke up in, you know? My hair was probably nappy. I mean, I could probably look up a few pictures. You were 11, baby. Right. That's what I'm saying. So, like, they didn't really care. Like, we would just be rolling out of bed and they're still, like, filming us. They had some really good souls taking care of them along the way, too, before things changed from TLC to WeTV. There was a lot of good people standing behind them. There was a lot of good people. Brian was one of them.

you know, the cameraman. Definitely. How are you guys feeling without the cameras on though? Like, were you guys like emotionally, how was everything? You guys were so young, you know, so like, did anything really bother you back then? I don't think I really paid attention to all that until I got older. Gotcha. Okay. That really made sense because, um,

My mama kind of always sugarcoated things. So it wasn't as always like, oh, you know, you're famous. Although at 11, like that shit's cool, you know? Yeah. Being 22, that shit sucks.

up. Okay. You know, like being an adult and actually realizing what comes along with that. Right. You know, like I can't make stupid choices. I can't do anything publicly that I don't want anybody to know. Right. Because everybody's in your fucking business telling you how to live your life. Right. Yeah. Tell me how to spend my money. Yeah. I love how people are so entitled on other people's lives. It's the weirdest fucking shit to me. Right.

Alana, growing up with these cameras in your face and making mistakes, because you're still a teenager. I know we have a 14-year-old, and she fucks up all the time. But she's a great kid. She's fucking taking college classes in high school. She's an amazing kid. But she does dumb shit.

You know, like... I mean, I wanted us to. Yeah, like, how does that... She has straight fucking A's, but she acts like a dumb dumb since I'm like, get together. I never knew that about you, that you have straight A's like that. Do you love school? Um, no, I don't like school. I'm not ready to get up out of there. Yeah, but I am on her ass a lot because...

My mama didn't take school serious when she had her. She was just like, "Oh, we'll just do some stupid ass homeschool stuff." And it never got done. Like, she would sleep or, you know, at the time when she switched Alana over, you know, she was on drugs or whatever. So, it wasn't getting done. Like, Alana fell so far behind. So, when I got her,

you were at school, you were doing your work. If you had to do extra classes, like that's what you were going to do. And you're going to graduate. Cause I didn't do that. Me and Josh didn't get to graduate. Yeah. You just want her to have a better, you know, situation. You know, what parent doesn't like, no, I'm the strict one. Yeah.

I'm the strict one in our family. Like literally right before you guys got here, Jay and I had a conversation where Bailey wanted to go and eat dinner with our, yeah, eat dinner with a bunch of seniors. And she's a freshman and she's going to ride with a senior that we don't know. And I'm like, no, that's not going to happen. And Jay's like, you got to let her go. And I'm just like, no, I'm like, you know what? You guys figure it out. Let me know what you figure out. And then, you know, whatever, we'll go from there. It's just hard. You know, when you've been through some shit, you want,

to make sure that everything is perfect. Yeah, because I know. You know what I'm saying? I was 17. Yeah. I was also pregnant at 17. Right. We're going to get to that too. Yeah. So, okay. So mom is still healthy during this time when you guys are filming Honey Gala, right? Yeah, we very first started filming. We very first started, yeah. She was fine. We did, what, like three or four seasons of that. It went good and everything. Like it went smooth. Yeah.

Through like what a lot of people didn't see on the actual show was a lot of abuse. Okay. Physically from Sugar Bear. Um, at.

at physical yeah physical and mental yeah at 14 he threw a set of keys in my eyes um my retina become detached oh my god and so I had to get that um a buckle a buckle put on the back of my eye and stuff like that so oh my god but it just started to get like progressively worse how did you guys hide the abuse from the cameras

Well, that's what I was about to say. We were actually filming one day and our sound girl was like bent over and mama and she was like messing with her bag or whatever. And mama and him had gotten into it. Well, he took a lotion bottle and like baseball slings it through a fucking window. And the sound girl's like sitting right there. Like it went over her head, like almost took her, like it would have took her head off. It would have seriously hurt her. Wow. But like... Who knew that little fucker had that fucking much aggression? Like...

He like Seriously had anger issues Sugar Bear is your dad right Yes Okay Like she may have never really seen it But I've seen a lot of the Right Physical abuse from him Was he physically He was always angry at me

Was he only physically abusive to you or was he physically abusive to Alana and Mama June? No, he was just really mean. Oh, so you got the brunt of it. Like he didn't really claim Alana because he wanted her to be a boy, but. Yeah, he definitely never wanted anything. Still to this day really doesn't want anything to do with me just because I'm not a boy. Sugar Bear's a dickhead? Yeah. I never knew. I see. I didn't know any of this. This is crazy. Oh yeah, girl. I dick. Wow. That's gotta be really hurtful. Yeah. How does that make you feel, Alana? Yeah.

I'm at the point now that he's acted like this for so long that I'm over it at this point. But at first, it definitely hurt me because, damn. That's your dad. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. That is like, you know...

As a little girl, your first love is always your father. You know, when your father breaks your heart, then that it's just something that you can never repair. Cause my dad did the same thing to me just differently. Uh, my dad just loves women and he'll pick women over me till the day he fucking croaks. So, um,

So you don't have any communication with your dad anymore? No. Here recently he tried to communicate with me, but I didn't respond only because, like, you've waited this long. Yeah. You know, like, I've been on the earth for 17 years now and you waited this long to

Did you guys like never had a relationship or? Like when he was with my mom, we had a relationship. But like once him and my mom, like once my mom, once we moved back to where Pumpkin was born at, like it was no really communication with him. Like it was another thing. He kept picking women over. Right. I feel like that generation of men is just like the most codependent fucking men ever.

Whoa. Even this mic are having a fucking... Oh, well. Fucking well. He forgets that it's not like right here, like, mom. Here we go. Listen. When we... When me and Pumpkin first started dating, they had just recently moved back to that area of Atlanta. Gotcha. So I was having to ride with Sugar Bear. To come and see me. To come and see Pumpkin. Oh, my gosh. So it was cool riding the truck, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. But, like, the more...

conversations and crazy shit that Sugarberry had done, the more dislikement I had for him.

But it's more like, hey, I'm just trying to do this because I want to see you. And she knew that. Right. So I dealt through with the little piddly shit until it kind of smoothed itself out. Until, like Alana said, until June was like, listen, you just shut the fuck off. Right. Did you tell June that, hey, look, he's extremely abusive towards me? Oh, she knew. She was in the living room when she threw the keys in her eyes. Yeah, they were arguing. I was standing right beside her.

I had actually just come in from the car. I remember just like it was yesterday. I had just come in from the car. I think a lot of them was out there in the car. Yeah, we were waiting. We were trying to go somewhere. They were sitting there and they were like bitching. I can't remember about what. But I come inside and as soon as I did that, he looks at me and he fucking threw him and

And she just let it happen. Yeah. Like she doesn't even say nothing. Like never stuck up for you. Oh, that's gotta be hurtful though. My stepmother was extremely abusive and my father never stuck up for me either. And that is like the most disheartening feeling because as a kid, all you want is that protection from that one parent that just is supposed to love you, you know? So that really hurts. And I'm sure that fucking just,

more resentment to the situation that you guys are going through. Right. So Mama June is healthy. You

You and Sugar Bear have a relationship. You guys are getting through the first few seasons of Honey Boo Boo. When did you guys start dating, Josh and Pumpkin? 2015. Okay, so what was that? So this was after Honey Boo Boo. Okay, so we'll get to that. So moving on, what happens on the next chapter after the first couple of seasons? You're getting older. You're getting older. So after the first couple of seasons, we...

Yeah.

They kind of like started to split up and that's when mama started dabbling in the drugs. Um, it was speed at first. She would smoke out of little tin full boats with a lighter and stuff, you know, I've done that before. Um, like, you know, like she was very open. That is one thing I can say. In front of you guys. Yeah. She was very open. She was very open. Like she let us know what she was doing. You know, she would say how much she was doing. Like at one point I remember,

remember one day like she was sitting on the stairs at our house just sitting there just lighting her little bowl over whatever oh no and like you guys breathing the drugs i mean basically golly that's but this you know and then how old were you guys when we got we got far ahead but that was real far ahead though i'm just saying i remember one day okay let's reel it back yeah because

Her Honey Boo Boo show got canceled. Because she was talking to a man. She was talking to a man who had previously been charged with accusations of raping our older sister. But I don't know if that was true. I was four at the time, so I have no idea. You know what I'm saying? Right. From my understanding and what I've heard from a few other people, it's a bunch of he said, she said. But again, I cannot be the person to judge that. I've never been through something like that. You know, so...

Joke, I canceled because those pictures come out. Alana's uncle actually... Pictures of... Pictures of my mama with this... Okay, gotcha. Okay, okay. I thought you meant like with... It was somebody she had relations with in the past from where they were originally from, correct? Right. Yes. Okay. I love him. He's awesome. You want to be my co-host? I love that. I love that. But anyways...

Gosh. You're telling the show that you can't tell. Oh, so her... So her uncle actually sold those images. He took them on his phone personally, like, when we were all in the hotel room, like, all, like, basically, like, trying to catch up on old times and stuff. Um...

He sold those pictures and got our show canceled. Yep. That's disgusting. So we no longer talk to him. It's gotta be hard that you guys can't even trust people that you bring into your lives. Definitely. I tell everybody all the time, like when they say they want to be friends with me or they say that they want like some kind of part of my life. Like if I don't trust my own mom...

what makes you think I can trust you? You know? Like, so it's very hard for me to open up to anybody. How does that make you feel, Alana? Do you have to be the same way, like with kids in school? Definitely. Definitely. Like at school, a lot of people are like, honey boo, honey boo. And I'm like, no, my name is Alana. Yeah.

Like you just want to separate yourself from that. Yeah. Like I like people don't understand like I'm not honey boo anymore. Like I'm a Lana now. I was honey boo boo. Now I'm a Lana. You know, that's right. People just don't understand it. But listen, you're allowed to grow up and you're allowed to be whoever you

And I think like people are so used to seeing me as the little six year old girl. They're like, people don't think I'm allowed to grow up. Right. So now when she has a long lashes and she has a long nails and you know, she's got on her little Ugg boots or whatever. I mean, it could be the most dumbest stuff that they like,

Pick at you know Oh they did the same thing With Bailey and I Like It is so annoying How does your mom Let you dress like that Or your dad Or you're growing up so fast And I'm like no She's just growing up Like what are we supposed to do Put her in a fucking cage And not let her fucking bloom Like you know It's just crazy to me

um so you guys so how are you how are you how are you guys feeling emotionally during the breakup of sugar bear and your mom and then your mom you know kind of they haven't already broken up right yep at that point at that point they were already split okay cool so how are you guys feeling at this time like

I mean, I was obviously happy, you know, like be done with his fucking ass, you know, because for a while that they were split up, but he was still coming to visit. Like, you know, he would come up and stay for a week or two. And then, you know, Josh would ride up with him and, you know, like vice versa or whatever. But then eventually that died out because she met Gino. I unfortunately met Gino and your mom.

I remember that. I know what you meant. I did not know that. Yeah, so I have a video I could show you. They come to one of the concerts. No, no, no. So that was recently, but yeah, I'll tell you guys about that too. Oh my gosh. She probably wants to be on the podcast too, girl. Yeah, she does. So...

2015 or 2016, I think it was. It was right before Jay and I officially got together. So it was in one of those years. I was with a bunch of people at a strip club in Vegas. And here comes your mom walking in with Gino. She was always at a strip club. Well, I think it was because of him. Yeah, definitely. She was very...

Very sweet. She was very, very sweet and very quiet. They were hella fucked up. And Gino would not stop asking for cocaine. I honestly can't remember a time that them two in their lives were sober. Yeah. He would not stop asking me for cocaine. And I'm talking like 50 times an hour.

yeah hey can you get cocaine can you and i'm like bro i just told you no i can't you know like right i got my own but you know like back when i was part this is back when i was partying you know but i was just like no i don't have what you guys are looking for but your mom was very sweet we did a video together and then we just fucking moved on you know i was just like i thought this was cool but yeah totally fucking random but i actually did get to meet gino so that's funny honestly it's crazy right how life comes around full circle so um it

When she met Gino, was this the beginning of your next show or were you guys on a break or how? We're kind of on a break. Okay. So the allegations and all that stuff that Gino wasn't the guy that had the allegations. No, it was another guy. Okay. So take me from there.

From the allegations. From the, from the, so you guys got canceled. Yeah. Yeah. So TLC said, I canceled the show immediately as soon as the pictures were done. It's crazy how like you're everything to a network until one fucking thing goes wrong. Until one fucking thing and they're dumping you. They didn't even care to hear the story. None of that. Right now,

If anybody's watching this and letting you know, don't be trusting these TV people because they do not have your fucking back. Yeah. They do not. Absolutely. I think there is a select few that really do have a good interest on our team. Yeah. But, and I will always say that because they've been with us for so fucking long, but...

They are shitty to you. Some people are. Yeah, no, I believe it. But they dumped us. Like, we just kind of took a break. We had moved from McIntyre back to Hampton. But before we moved fully, like, we were kind of still staying, like, at Sugar Bear's new house.

He was living with his brother. And that's when her drugs started to, like, slowly progress. Was Sugar Bear doing drugs, too? I mean, not that I know of. You know what I'm saying? I wish there was a camera on him because he's hilarious. He is so funny. I'm going to squeeze my ass over there because there is some shit.

Sugar Bear wouldn't know what drugs were if they fell out of the fucking sky and slapped him in the face. But he's just naturally... Oh, God. And the damn teeth. So he's just naturally fucking mean, dude? You guys moved back, and you guys were kind of back and forth between Sugar Bear's house and... The New Hampton house. The one that she fought and paid for. It was the first thing that, besides our fucking 2012 Suburban...

That we took every fucking where I mean everywhere Everywhere Hey fucking Chevy baby Like we didn't have any You know we didn't have anything So like after Honey Boo Boo Like I guess I don't know what that money looked like Like we never got any of that money Although I'm pretty sure we were supposed to

Gotcha. I didn't know about it at the time. I was a kid. Did they have you sign? Yeah. I was having a good time. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm famous. Like, I didn't know. Yeah. Did they have you guys sign your own contracts and stuff like that too? I don't think at the time because I didn't sign my own contract until I was 18. Okay, gotcha. So she always signed them for us. So I don't know, you know, like whatever it is, what it is at this point, you know, money lost. But, um.

I mean, it isn't what it is. Yeah. I mean, like at some point, like I'm not going to go past all these years, like trying to track that shit. I'm just not going to do that. But yeah,

Sugar Bear and the New Hampton house she bought with her money. Yeah, so she bought and paid for that. Other than the suburban, like, we went everywhere. We went down to Florida. I remember that. We went everywhere. We went on a lot of trips. We went to Disneyland. It was like our... Disney World was our first, like, big family trip. Yeah. What was that like? That was nice. Like...

- No, our first big family trip. - What was it? - Yeah, it was Disney, you're right. - I know girl, I already knew. - No, I was talking about when we went to California for the first time, remember that? - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That was like, we were really young. - We were so young and we were like, oh my God, we're in like Hollywood. - We went on Rodeo Drive, like we had to buy shit from there. It was kinda broke then still a little bit. - Shit, I'm still broke and I can't fucking shop on Rodeo Drive. - I still can't get shit from over there, okay?

Damn I ain't getting no beer I'm just kidding Okay you're talking about Our first trip But That was nice Like those were like Good family memories Like it wasn't always shitty You know until like I felt like really Until we were older So when did things Start taking a turn For the worse Things started taking a turn For the worse When she met Gino Definitely The abuse Well the abuse Was pretty bad Was pretty fucking bad I mean I never knew that About sugar Do people know that About sugar bear Um

It was very hidden. Yeah. You know, like the show tried to cover it up. Like he accidentally threw keys in my eyes. I think that's so wrong that a TV show would know that a child is being abused and try to hide it. Yeah. It's insane. There was one episode he did blow up and snatched his shirt off like he was Hulk Hogan. Yeah, but that was on this show. But yeah, that was on this show. That wasn't on the show that we did. You're getting ahead of yourself, mister. You are ahead of yourself. You're getting way ahead of yourself. She said take it slow. Take it slowly. Josh, if you're going to be the co-host, you got to ride the pony, baby. How did that end up on Weed?

I thought that was DLC. No, but I think that's so wrong that, you know, like I said, a TV show knows that a child is being abused and they're not stepping in. Yeah, no, they never did. They never said anything. That's wrong.

that's not fair to you. Like they failed you, honestly. Right. Yeah. That's so fucked up there. I mean, there was plenty of times like my mom would go around like whooping my ass. You know what I mean? We all got my ass beat too. I was also a bad ass. Okay. I was the fucking pumpkin was the baddest one out of all of us. Yeah. I'm going to go ahead and say that. Were you bad or were you just rebellious? You know, I don't even think it was rebellious because she allowed me to do stuff. Right. Like,

when we were still staying in McIntyre I remember several nights I was like way before 15 out drinking with people that were like 21 22 yeah and she was like alright you're going over there to so and so's house so it'll be alright oh yeah I remember for like I remember for like a whole month Pumpkin stayed over there for like a whole month just coming back home getting clothes everyday and she was like alright I'll see you later bitch so when did you have your first drink

I mean hell I don't remember it's pretty young though I know I smoked pot when I was 11 wow yeah she remembers that like the back of her hand wait what did you just say you smoked I smoked pot at 11 okay I thought you said snorted powder I was like wow no I've never done any hard drugs but I think honestly I've never done any hard drugs like I mean I've taken like pain pills but not like that aren't prescribed to me right gotcha Alana what about you

Oh, no, I don't do nothing. Nothing? Completely, like, never tried anything? She doesn't even like nicotine six. Good. Good for you. I'm sober. I'm sober, too, now. I've been sober since 2017, and it's the best thing I've ever done. I mean, girl, I do smoke weed, but... Yeah, my husband is a fucking dude. He's probably got two joints going right now as we speak. Sounds like us earlier before we went at breakfast. That's crazy because you would think that a mom would want to protect their daughter, you know, from...

drinking alcohol at 14. That's a little bit of a, I mean, I'm not proud of it, but I feel like your fault. That was your mom's job to guide you. You know, you don't, don't carry that weight because you're a child, you know, at 14, you're going to fucking drink. You're going to make, I did fucking, I drank forties of oldies, Cisco and all that shit when I was fucking 14, you know, like,

Your parents are there to be like, hey, you're not supposed to be acting like this. So for her to know that you were doing that is just kind of a little, you know, Yeah, like she knew. She definitely knew. Like, I mean, there was times I'd be like, hey, you know, I'm here. And she'd be like, okay, as long as you're with so-and-so and them. But I mean, they were like really close friends, people I've grown up. Well, they're siblings I had grown up with. You know, they were the older siblings or whatever, but yeah.

She was like, as long as you're with them, like, that's okay. I know that you're safe. She's like, I know they're not going to let anything bad happen to you. But I can remember nights like super trash out by the tree. She told me one night. The tree? Out by the tree? Yeah, like, just like. Oh, gotcha. She told me the first night she ever got crossfaded. She told me the first night she ever got crossfaded that she was just like laying by the fire pit. Like, I felt dead. Like. Oh, God.

I think that's why now at 22, I don't want to have like, I don't have a social drink, you know, like when I'm out at dinner or whatever, but that is literally good. But getting completely tossed is like out of the question. Yeah. I hate being hella fucking drunk too. It doesn't feel good. The room's spinning. You're puking. It's terrible.

nobody's attracted nobody's attracted nobody i i go out i go out sober now all the time and i'll be at concerts and you know women i love them so much shout out to all my my little drunk babies that come up to me and they will be shit-faced and i'll just be like i'll be handing them bottles of water homie me i'm like do you guys need an uber do you need water like i just feel so bad because i'm just like god i used to be this girl right so mama got with uh gino what happens then

i think the first night they got together actually we met at the they met they met at bingo they met bingo american legion bingo hall i'll get down on some bingo i love it i'll get down let's do it we just went to vegas and i said baby where the are the bingo halls and that they have no they have bingo in vegas i gotta take you girl we gotta go they have it is it 21 plus they have it in

They have it in the casinos. Oh, my God. Well, they didn't have it in that fucking casino we were at. You could either do it with a dauber or it's computerized. I need a dauber, please. I'll do a computerized. You're crazy. You know what? If we go, I'll do a dauber with you guys. But I like to just sit back and win money. I like to just watch. Oh, my God. That's the whole point of being a dauber. They're just so fucking messy, dude. They are messy. They're so messy. I've tried them before. I fucking love them.

I love Vegas. You leave the bingo hall like you just done, Tata. Yeah. No, like seriously, like just fucked up. But so I grew up in Vegas. I'm used to like slot machines and shit. So I'll be able to sit there and watch it. But maybe we'll do both. We'll do the dauber and stuff. But we got to go do that. I'll show you where they are in Vegas. Sun. What the fuck is it called? South Point has a great fucking bingo hall that you can go to. I can't believe I wish I had known that I would have told you guys. Damn, I know.

We have a house in Vegas, so anytime you guys want to go to Vegas, you can stay there. We're going to start Airbnb-ing it out and stuff. So, yeah. Anytime you guys want to go, just let me know. You're going to Airbnb out your house? You're not scared? I mean, to you guys, I would be fine with that. We're going to be very selective about who we have. I was like, you're not just going to post it on Airbnb. No, I wanted to. That's what scares me. The doorbell cameras, the whole nine yards you got to have. Yeah, all of it. Security, all of it. Yeah, for sure. We got that shit, too.

Yeah. I mean, not security. We're not that high dollar. Okay. No, you guys, we used to have security though. We used to have security, but, um, that stopped after the honey boo boo show. So do you guys feel like you need security whenever you're out? No. Do people, I feel like I'm secure enough with Josh. Like, you know, like I know for a fact he'll fuck somebody up. Oh, don't you love it? And I will too. So I'm just like, I'm, I'm so scared to put my hands on somebody.

I'm just really scared. I'm like, dude, I really don't want to hurt you. Because you're like, I have so much fucking aggression built up. Definitely. So when Mama June met Gino, were you dating Josh yet? Yeah. Actually, Josh was staying with me. Okay, so Josh and Sugar Bear, all that stuff, you guys got together. You moved in with her? Yeah. How'd that work? He slowly started moving with me. He would start staying for a couple of days, and he would go back home an hour and a half.

And then you'd come back for like a week, you know. You guys are so cute. I don't want to leave, bro. But it was okay. Aw, he said he didn't want to leave. It was okay. Like, my mama didn't like him at all. She probably still doesn't fucking like him. Why? She acts like she does. I don't know. She just always was like, well, he's older than you. How much older? I'm 26. Four years.

That's not that bad. Right. That's what I said. She might have just been jealous of the relationship. Well, that's, you know, and that's what I think to myself even now, like as an adult, like, are you just jealous? Like that? He's actually stuck around for eight years that he's not a criminal. Yeah. You know, like, and he actually has his license. Yeah. And we're not meaning to, to bash mama June. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

nothing to lie about. No, I believe him. I can give you the train wreck from when it started when he come into the house to the point of it going downhill. But literally the first night she met him, let's go back to that, okay? So we were all at the bingo hall. Does your aunt spoil by the way? He had just gotten out of jail for a DUI. Just gotten out of jail. Was she writing him in jail? Like how did she know?

know him or he just was there he had come with my aunt's boyfriend but supposedly she knew him from school though she claimed she claimed but she lies about a lot of things too as well she that literally we all went home that night she ended up getting his number and stuff and she's like josh go get him like you don't even know

He's a killer. Yeah. So he was, he was, I was the fucking driver. First it's Sugar Bear, now it's Gino. Yeah. When Sugar Bear got out of the picture, bro, like he was the driver. But Gino was fucking cool. Okay. Gino was badass.

I will always say that. I mean, so cool. So cool. We fucking loved him. We still talk to him. Like, I can say that for the longest, Gina was really like starting to become a father figure for me. Like, honest to God, he was so great. I don't think anybody really knows that. Like, honestly. No, because everybody just knows the bad shit, dude. Yeah, I think the media has painted him as such a monster that, you know, people didn't know that you guys felt like this. Well, drugs will turn you into a monster.

Oh, so he wasn't on drugs when you first came around. I think that they... Okay, so she had already started drugs, you know, prior to this. It wasn't... Do you think Mama turned him out? Nope, he was a drug addict too. Okay, gotcha. He actually was a heroin addict. He had admitted to us that he had had...

run-ins with going to jail because of drugs or because of like you know probably tripping out balls in the middle of the street and shit like that yeah like he wasn't afraid to admit nothing to it but he said his favorite drug was heroin I mean same thing with mama that is one thing I could say like when it comes to the drug stuff she was very open and honest about that I mean she was extremely open smoking meth in front of you guys like that's

That's insane. There comes a time where you have to have some sort of boundaries, even as a parent. Well, see, like with Gino, like I said, it was cool. Yeah. But he had a little bit of a drink for the longest. Yeah, he did have a little bit of a drink for the longest. You guys respected the honesty from Gino. I did. I did respect that because he would call her out on a lot of shit. Definitely. He'd be like, stop lying to them, G. Like, yeah, he'd be like, just fucking tell him.

You know, like trying to sugarcoat it, fucking tell him, don't lie to him. And I did, I did appreciate that because, because like Punga said, mom sugarcoated everything. And it would be the, it would be the biggest lie. And he would make her backtrack every fucking time she lied, bro. But she would like try to tell this big fat lie to tell a million other lies on top of it. Yeah. Go ahead and tell him this part because you're going to tell him this part and this part's going to end up showing what the real truth is. And she hated it. Wow. She hated it. Wow. Wow.

So where do you think things started getting bad for you guys? I think like a couple of years. And how old were you guys when, when Gino came into the picture? I was 16. Okay. It was right before I got pregnant with Ella. Okay. I don't know how old I was. Right before I got pregnant with Ella. Okay. Things didn't really, I did not notice that they were on drugs as heavy until, um,

I found out I was pregnant with Ella. Okay. And how old were you? And I had her in 2017. 17? Mm-hmm. Okay. Okay.

I knew she was, like I said, I knew she was on drugs. And Josh's baby daddy? Yeah. Okay. He's the baby daddy of all my four of them. I only have one girl. You guys are knocking boots, baby. Big beats. So yeah, four of them. I like that. Like I said, I don't follow the storyline. I don't know anything. So this is all new to me. Like, I don't know any of this. So I think it's cool. I could remember there was times, actually, Alana went to Dancing with the Stars and that's when it got real.

really really bad yes that's when it had gotten really bad when I went to dance some of the stars were you guys still filming during her drug use with Gino and stuff like that yes because we went to Vegas five years ago to this day um and they did a fake wedding for me on the show they had previously found needles and stuff in a freaking laundry detergent bottle

and they still kept filming and they did nothing about it they found needles on the top shelf of a piece of the closet that was in the suite at the hotel we stayed at in planet hollywood prior to that because i had ella then so she was shooting meth no he was he was a shooter yeah he was speedballing cocaine basically speedballing crack i think yeah yeah it was pretty bad now i will say though he would never let us see that side

I can say, though, one time, right before I had moved out of the house, I walked in on him shooting up one time. Oh. And he was like, and he, like, pushed me out of the bathroom very quickly. And that's when I realized, I was like, I think it's time for me to go. We're getting all ahead. Holy shit. Hold on. We really are kind of ahead of the game. Yeah, we are. Because Gino was cool, man. And then he started doing the drug thing. And he started changing locks on the house. That's where it started to get real weird. Paranoia. Yeah, paranoia. Like, my mom had a...

She has never been the one to shut or lock her bedroom door at night. And popped all the locks in this brand new house. She popped all the locks so nobody could shut or lock. Whether you could shut the door, but you just couldn't lock it.

So she would bend it backwards and pop it so nobody would be able to lock the door. It's very hardcore on like open house. When they got really bad, he put a lock on their bathroom door. He put a lock on their bedroom door. And it was constantly locked. He changed the front door locks, the back door locks. The garage locks. Addict behavior. Very much. Very much. Like I remember nights at like 4 a.m. My mama is like vacuuming the stairs. With this little handheld vacuum. And looking out the curtain, she's like,

How is this making you guys feel? I used to sleep downstairs. Honestly, God, I'm laughing at her. Oh, yeah. I can remember several nights me and Josh just like laughing at her. Do you think that was a defense mechanism so that it didn't hurt? Yeah, I think so. Definitely a pumpkin.

definitely laugh through our pain. Yeah. I'm the same way. I'll start crying and I'll smile. Yeah. I'm like, yeah, like I'm okay. I'm okay. Me and Poki definitely laugh our way through our pain. Definitely. No, I do too. You have to like, if you don't, if you don't, it'll eat you alive. And I don't take you guys as being like dwellers. You know, I'm the same way.

Get on with it and get over with it. Build a bridge, get the fuck over it. Because it's going to happen and life is going to continue. And there's such a better future ahead of us. Absolutely. My motto is everything happens for a reason. Everything happens for a reason. I love how well-rounded you guys have turned out for all the fucking bullshit you guys have been through. See, even before Gino come along, bro, I was staying when I'd hang out and sleep and hang out and fucking stay for a week or so. I always slept on the futon in the game room, which was not really like a game.

It was more of an open room. Right when you walked into the house, it was to the left. So I was like, cool, I'll just chill here. You know what I'm saying? No problem. It was like six o'clock in the fucking morning, bro. And she's vacuuming the stairs. And it's still dark outside. It's like shit you hear about in the movies. Yeah, like honestly, it's like some shit you watch on Lifetime. Yeah. Next morning, I asked Pumpkin. I was like, hey, I'm not going to accuse nobody of some shit. I was like, but listen, I've been...

I've been around the block and seen some shit. Something's not right here. And she's like, what do you mean? Yeah, like, nobody is up doing that shit at 6 a.m. And she's like, what do you mean? And I'm like, your mom's vacuuming the stairs at 5.30 in the morning, honey. I was like, you might want to question her and see if some shit's going on. And she's like, I think I'm going to call her out on it. So I left.

And I'm going to end up calling her out on it. She's like, what the fuck are you doing? Why are you up at five in the morning? I hold her responsible because I would want my child to do the same to me. Absolutely. So did you call her out? So I remember, that's what I was going to say. I remember one night specifically, um, I believe we found needle caps in the dryer. Um, and I was actually going through and washing all of Ella's clothes cause we were getting ready for her to be born. Um,

And I remember them coming in. They were super fucked up. Gino was drunk. And I fucking snatched the keys out of his hand. And I was like, listen, dude. I was like, my fucking kid is about to be born. Either y'all got to get it the fuck together. Get the shit out of the house. I said, or I'm going to fucking move. And he was like, okay. He was like, I respect you coming to me and saying that. And he was like, I'm going to, you know, clean up my act. Get it the fuck together. No. I mean, for a little bit, he did. For like a week. Yeah, for like a week. And then we filmed.

And I had a pair of slippers right by the front door. But that wasn't before then. That's not before you moved out, though. That was way after. You moved out when I moved... When I went... She moved out when I went to Dancing with the Stars. When she was at Dancing with the Stars. She was like, since you guys can't figure the fuck out, I'm moving out. Me and Josh are gone. And I sure did. They were gone to California. And I remember the day she moved out. My mom was livid. She was like, Pumpkin wants to move out the damn house.

For I don't know, like just livid that she was even moving. I don't know what reason, but she's a liar too because she knew exactly what the reason was because prior to the day of us moving out was when I found more needle caps in the dryer and my kids' clothes were in there. So I freaked the fuck out, bro. And I wanted to tear the house down with my bare hands. Yeah. But I left respectfully. So.

So did you guys have your baby and then move out or you moved out before the baby was born? Ella was, Ella was born. You had Ella. Yeah, we had Ella there and then I moved out. She was still very small. Yeah. She wasn't even six months. Ella wasn't that old because you come out and dance with the stars before you moved. I did. How did you feel when pumpkin left home?

Um, when Pocan left home, I was like, damn, like she left me, but I understood. Right. Like I was like, she's having a baby. Like she's got to go. Like this is happening. Like she has to do it. She's got to do for her kids, you know? It's like, I understood, but I was like, dang, she left. Oh, that's so mature of you. I think trauma makes you mature too. Yeah. But it wasn't long after Alana started staying with me. Right. Yeah. Like their drug addiction was so bad. After we come back from Dancing with the Stars, after like I got kicked off the show and everything, um,

I was just there by myself. It was just me, my mom, and Gino. And, like, Gino, he was just, like, at that point, he was super weird. Like, he would just talk to my mom, and, like, we would just all be in the living room or something, and he'd be like, well, if somebody was to break in here right now, I wouldn't have nothing to do but to let them beat the shit out of y'all and just kill y'all. Like, what? Yeah, he would just say, like, he'd be geeked out of his fucking mind, hasn't slept in seven days. Alana didn't tell me that, though. Alana had been staying with us for, like, a couple of weeks at this time, and I'm like, Alana, what is it? Like, why are you not wanting to go home?

And she's like, well, Gina's just talking about this crazy stuff. She's like, I'm scared. And I was like, well, then why haven't you said something before now? I was physically scared to even go home at night. I was like, I don't know if somebody's going to break off in here. She was sleeping on our couch and I asked her. At that point, they did owe a lot of people money. Yeah, most definitely. She was sleeping on our couch and I asked her, I was like, Alana, what's the issue? I was like, I don't care that you're here. I was like, but we need to make you a room.

Instead of you sleeping on the couch. Like, you're just, like, kicking it on the couch and that's fine. But, like, I want to make you a room. What's the issue? And then she told Pumpkin...

that Gina was saying all this crazy stuff. That's gotta be, that's just so crazy. But I mean, wasn't it Dancing with the Stars that he coded out on the floor, bro? No, oh my God. So like my mom. Oh no, wait, don't get there yet. Yeah. That's way down the line. Okay, I had to ask that question to make sure because I know that was a California thing. Because I was the only one there that day too. Like it always like the craziest shit happened. It's only me by myself. Have you? The day at the hospital. The day at the hospital. And I'm going to tell you about that. Have you guys ever gone to therapy? No.

Me personally, I don't like therapy because I don't think sitting there talking to a person I don't even know. I have trust issues. So I don't think sitting there talking to a person I don't even know is going to help me. I have, but I don't tell them too much of my business. Because you don't know who to trust. I did that only because our network required it.

After everything. Oh, how nice of them. Right. They finally decided to pay for my therapy. How fucking nice. They required me to go to it for a full season, but. Oh, yeah.

I hated it. In their head where they're like, oh, this shit might cause you some brain damage, so we might want to get you a little bit of help. Right. I think of Alana had, like, I was trying to explain it to Alana. I was like, I think if you found the right person that you were absolutely comfortable with. That's what I was going to say. And it takes time to find that person. You have to date a therapist. Like, I literally went through so many different therapists and, like, none of them were like. It's okay. And when you finally are ready to sit down and just kind of unpack all of this, because I've only heard literally the fucking tip of the iceberg with you.

guys. Yeah. And I trust me. I know if I can, the tip of the iceberg, when you're ready to sit down and unpack it, you're going to, that person in you guys will find each other. And I'm telling you, therapy has been the most therapeutic thing I could have ever done. Like I, it has helped me learn how to cope at

I don't even fucking cry and I'll cry in therapy. And it's like such a release because you don't realize how much your body, the body keeps score of every traumatic event that you go through. And that affects you in other ways. It affects you in health. It affects you in emotion, you know, mental health, everything, dude, like you can get physically ill and have autoimmune disorders forever.

from trauma. Like it's just that, you know, so when you're ready, baby, it's, you need to sit down and just kind of unpack it with somebody. And same with you, pumpkin. Like you've been through a lot of shit too. You know, you guys really need to,

to just, you know, get, don't carry that weight around anymore. You guys don't deserve it. You deserve to have, you know, that weight off your shoulders. And, you know, you guys are just such beautiful humans just sitting here talking to you guys, hearing your stories like this. You know, like Alana, I just want to hug you. I feel like you look like you're like tearing up over here. And it's just like, I seriously, like you guys have been through some shit. I know, it's crazy because I've been watching you for a while, you know, because like our stories are kind of similar. And it's just like so crazy. And like, I just went on.

vacation with like Bubba and them and their story is so similar and it's nice like over social media to find out like yeah did I ever think that me and you would connect like no not on no kind of planet but like tiktok like but we're so much alike too and like it's so crazy we have shared the story about our moms and I just want to tell you guys and I haven't we'll get back into your story too but my mom passed away six days ago yeah we were just talking about

I was like, I was like wondering, I was like, is she going to do it? I knew you guys weren't super close, but yeah, the show goes on, you know, but this is what I, if I could leave anything with you guys is my mom was an addict. Just like your mamas. I've been through a lot of shit with her just because,

In the short time I've gotten to know her, but, you know, I met my mom when I was 21. I'm 42 now. I didn't meet her. I'm sorry. I met her online when I was 21, 22, and then didn't meet her physically until I was 36 years old. Took care of my mom the last seven months. Cut her off the last three months of her life because, you know, I just was frustrated with her. And, you know, that resentment that comes with having a mom who's a fucking asshole, you know. Right. I got that phone call last...

And when I tell you,

The guilt that outweighed the grief was so much for me because even you feel guilty for not being there for a person that wasn't there for you. Right. And it's the weirdest mind fuck ever. And I'm not telling you to make up with your mom. You guys do that on your own time. But just know when you guys are ready, you know, just make sure that you guys always say I love you to each other. At least like I love you, but I can't have you in my life type shit, you know, from a distance.

Like we still talk now, you know, and I do tell her like, I may not let her know everything that's going on or whatever, but at the end of the text, like I do say, I love you. Or like, yeah. Cause see, I wasn't, that's not very often, you know, and another good friend of mine, like I've also met over social media.

she was telling me the same thing. She lost her dad and her dad was very shitty to her. And she was like, I just like, no matter how shitty he was to me, she was like, I had to be there. Like I needed to take care of my daddy. And I was like, I get that because that is a lot of the reason I know she's not in good health. She did a lot of fucking drugs and our parents beat their bodies up. Yeah. And so for me, it's kind of like,

I'm not trying to be mean. I think a lot of her stuff is starting to come back around now. You know, like she didn't suffer any consequences then, but she's going to get the back end of that. Like you can't do so many drugs and then expect nothing to happen in the long term. No, absolutely not. And so I know she's like having some health issues. I don't necessarily know what, but.

That is a lot of the reason I can't really let go because I haven't said either what I fully want to say. Right. And like I would write her a letter. Yeah. Write her a letter. And that way you can get everything out that you I wish I had written my mom a letter. You know, like I wish I could have just been like, hey, I fucking love you, bitch. But, you know, this is why I feel the way I do. Yeah. You know, I just want you to know, like.

I'm you're my mom still, no matter what, you know? So like whenever you don't get another one of those, right? Exactly. So whenever you guys are ready to do that, it's just, you know, sit down, write your mom a letter, do something that will help you guys heal. You're not doing it for them. You're doing it for you because the guilt that I feel is just,

almost. Like I even told Jay, I looked him in the eyes and I was just like, you, I was like, you got to go see your mom. You never want to, I never want you to ever feel like this, you know? So moving on before I get teary eyed. So Gino, you guys confronted Gino. Yeah, we confronted him. And then the dance with the star stuff, we'd come back. And then that's when everything just started going down really hill there.

He was telling you that people were going to break in the house and all that stuff. Yeah, she moved in with me. Okay. And then a couple weeks later. How cool is that that your sister is just like, come on, baby. You know? You're missing a few steps too because they were filming. But a couple weeks later when I was trying to fully move in with Pumpkin

We went to go film over there And like they couldn't There was a pair of slippers there Like her They were her slippers And yeah They were my slippers My mom had them on Okay here's the thing When she was on drugs really bad We were all Her house was the film house You know

regardless of me and josh moving out and whatever everybody having their own place someone that they had cleared we still had yep that place to film out so we would go there and film regardless go there and film regardless but she would be so fucked up like for four or five hours she would delay filming like we go to fucking dave and busters while we're waiting her waiting for her to wake up from her 6 a.m cocaine binge you know

I'm talking about horns honking. They're throwing rocks at her fucking window. Everything. Blowing her phone up. And she would just basically blow off filming. And then this was...

A couple days after that, she, we were in there and we were filming. She was actually in the hospital. She wasn't there though. Yeah, she wasn't there. Yeah, because a couple days prior to that, we went to 10 over in Atlanta. It's a drag show. And she started having mini strokes. She showed her fucking ass. She was so geeked.

Wait, okay, so she was having mini strokes? She was having mini strokes because she was literally like so fucked up. Like the ambulance told her like, you're having mini strokes. She proceeds to get up instead of going in the fucking ambulance and going to the fucking hospital. She proceeds to get up and chase Gino around the fucking parking lot. No bullshit. Like when I tell you in the scene, she looks like a

Like her hair's all wet. I was there. They weren't even there. I had to fucking call them. I was so pissed. I was like, this is bullshit. And they're just filming this. Yeah, they're filming it. And they're just, this is the fucking reality of it. Yikes. They're chasing each other around like fucking idiots. Like really, he's chasing Gina around. He's like, fuck you. He's like, fuck you, bitch. I don't want nothing.

to do with you like all this stuff it was terrible like i called alana and i was like what the fuck she was through the parking lot i was like your fucking mom is having mini strikes i was like she's like our producer was literally in her face like june june and she's staring at the glass of this this the fucking this entrance of the drag show you can see it on like i'm there and it's just like at first i thought she was just kind of fucking around you know right like she just kept doing she would just be like

Just slump mouth. And I'm just like, bro, you are fucked up. But there was several times like that, though. Like when Jessica was still, what, Jessica was still in school when all this was happening. So we went to Sam's, you know, every like, so often we'd go to Sam's with Jessica so she would have enough stuff in her dorm for the month. And boom. What does mama do? She falls asleep on the fucking Sam's scooter. Yeah.

You know, through the thing. She's like, I'm so tired. She's like, I'm so tired. What was she on? That's not meth, right? They had a really, really, really bad. Well, at first it was like pills. Like, Gina really liked pills. And she was doing the pills. I mean, it was probably a little bit of everything. Right. It was probably a little bit of everything. I definitely remember one night Gina was on beans, bro. And he's rolling around in the backyard. On beans? On beans. What's on beans? Fucking like, you know, ecstasy and all the triple stacks and shit like that. So they really like that shit, dude.

So they were on beans. You never heard them called beans? Never heard it called beans. I'm from the West Coast. It's got to be a Southern thing. So he's probably done taken like, you know, a handful. He's in the backyard and I can hear this shit. And all I can hear is, and I'm like, the fuck is going on? So I peek out the blinds, bro. And he's literally in military position with a fake gun.

rolling around in the backyard shooting at the fucking fence with nothing. There's nobody. It's three o'clock in the morning. It's pitch black dark outside. It was like that a lot. So I had to tell Pumpkin about this shit. I'm like, yo, do you want to see what the fuck is going on outside right now? This is ridiculous. It was entertainment. I remember one night they were fucked up so they decided that they were going to drink at the Mace. Oh my God. Like they were already fucking drunk.

I have any I all I can do is look at them with my mouth open I'm like they were already geeked up they decided we were gonna go out to Mexican Gino's already how are they hungry right

Yeah, really. Like, he would drink so much. He'd drink like a fucking fish out of water. Golly. So they decide that they're going to go and get, like, another bottle of 1800 after having a couple of drinks. And some Patron. And they got the Patron. And the Patron. No, no, no. They get so fucked up. We walk upstairs to their bedroom. Like, they're leapfrogging. First of all, they're leapfrogging up the stairs. They're leapfrogging up the stairs. They're like...

And then my best friend had just come over for the first time. I can't see. Who's leapfrogging up the stairs? Gino and your mom? Gino. Gino and Gino. I can't even picture Gino leapfrogging up some steps. Girl, I know. Up some steps. That's crazy. Oh, shoot.

Well, we walk in the room and this is the first time I've ever had anybody. The first time I've ever had anybody. So I was fucking embarrassed. Like when I told you Pumpkin was pissed, Pumpkin was pissed. I was in the floor. Stay tuned to next week's episode to see what happens in part two of Dumb Blonde Podcast.