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Is this thing on? Bonnie, who used to be a former sex worker, now hosts the podcast, Dumb Blonde. Most little girls grow up wanting to be doctors and lawyers and shit, and I was like, I want to be super hot, make a lot of fucking money, and be a rock star's wife. That was my goal as a child, and here we are. What's up, you sexy motherfuckers? Welcome back to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today, I have... Hold on, let me make sure I get this right, because there's so many, like, accolades that come with this man's name now. Whoa!

Two-time Grammy-nominated Jelly Roll. Yes! Did I do it right? You did it right. Do I have to go down the list, though? Do I have to say, like, New Artist of the Year? No, once you get nominated for a Grammy or when you win a Grammy, that's what we talked about in the kitchen earlier privately. My wife was like, what all does this mean for your career? I said, well, the biggest thing is,

And an artist, it's truly the biggest accolade. Like to this day, Taylor Swift is the biggest artist on earth. Yeah. And if you see a picture of her, like when they put her on the, like the screen for the games, like nobody knows her. It'll say 10 time or however many times she's won 10 time Grammy award winning artist, Taylor Swift. Yeah. That's it. That's

That's why I'm so adamant when I introduce Ashley McBride to be like, this is the Grammy award winning Ashley McBride. Yeah. That's it. Cause right now before today they would have said a three time CMT winner or a CMA new artist of the year winner. Yeah. But now people will say the Grammy. Now it's crazy. If I win one, the rest of my life, that's how I'll be. If I ever go like do a national anthem or something, they'll be like Grammy award winning recording artists, jelly roll. Yeah.

Isn't it crazy how the Grammy title just trumps fucking everything? Like you've worked your ass off for all these awards, but as soon as Grammy steps in, it's like I'm fucking the main bitch. Fucking King Dick has arrived. You know what I'm saying? It's crazy. Baby, how are you feeling? Okay, so I mean we have so much to dive into, but today let's talk about, because this is going to come out this week, so this is all going to be in real time. This morning, okay, so last night I went to sleep.

you're on tv you're on tv yeah well this morning at like three o'clock in the morning four o'clock in the morning we went to sleep and you were when i fell asleep you were still watching tv and then i rolled over this morning four hours a few moments later a few moments later you are still watching tv and it freaked me out for a minute there i had like a flashback to like a drug boyfriend that i had before because i was like did he just pull an all

- You were sleeping all nighter? Like what happened? - Yeah, you said, baby, have you not, you were so sweet about it that you said, baby, have you not been able to sleep?

I was like, no, the Grammy's nominations are fitting to come out. And you were like, you haven't been to sleep? I was like, no, I went to sleep. I just woke up and I'm trying to find to see if we can see it. So he's fumbling the remote. He's looking for, you know, ET live. Can we take a moment to talk about how shitty streaming services is made watching TV? Like you have to plan the night before. Yeah, you got to plan and figure out exactly what app it's on and how.

Yeah. Because Google sent us the four different apps. They were like, you can do it on Hulu. Hulu was like, nope. Paramount or YouTube. YouTube was like, nope. Paramount Plus. And then Paramount Plus was like, nope. Not on here neither. You got to go to ET Online. Yeah. It just was crazy. And Google's no fucking help because Google gives you all the apps. I'm like trying to help you out and stuff. But yeah, it was really ridiculous. Makes me want to go back to cable. I never thought I would ask to put cable back in our house. But just for days like today, I just wish I could have hit fucking guide.

Yeah. And scroll down until I've seen Grammy announcement. Oh, that's what I want to watch. Boom. Well, next year we're going to make a big production of it whenever you get nominated because now we know what to do. But this year we're just... I love your confidence that we're ever going to get nominated again. I'm waiting on them to take it back now. Listen, we're putting it in the air, baby. That's what we do. You have manifested your entire thing. And then when I got with you, we manifested our entire thing. So I just...

Just put it in the air. So you're fumbling, looking for the app and shit. Finally, we figure it out. Both of our phones are going off. People are texting us. We're trying to not look at the text messages that people are sending us. And walk me through it. What's on your TikTok? I cried. Because I thought, so I didn't know they had a country duo category.

Like so I just assumed when I wasn't up for country album of the year or country artist of the year. Yeah. Whatever the first two that were the two main country categories. I definitely didn't think I'd be in the new artist category. Right. I thought whatever I was would be specific to the country genre genre, which I was extremely happy with. Yeah. So if I have a chance, it'll be in one of the country genres. So when I passed those two, I was like, not here.

I was like not there and I was like oh my little heart sunk and I was like that's all right man we're still soup we got a lot of work to do yeah and then I looked and it was like new artist of the year and I was like I'm sitting there with like Noah Kahan and

I spice. You're the only country nominated new artist, right? The war and treaty. Oh, I love them. I love them. Oh, I love them. Secretly probably cheering for them that night. Absolutely. But, um, over myself even because that couple just what a love story. What a cool thing for a moment for them. We love, love, love, love. Watch a couple of

flourish the way they have. Go up there with? Dude, I'd lose my shit for them. It'd be like if me and you had a duet in one, you know? Well, you won't fucking do a duet with me. Because you want me to do dirty Christmas songs, Brian. No. We're never going to win a Grammy doing dirty Christmas songs. Let's really talk about this really quick. All right, let's do it right now. I'm glad to bring y'all into our personal beef. I have asked you to do a duet for years before any of these fucking couples were doing it. And you know what you told me? You said, no, with my luck, you'll fucking outshine me. That's what you do in everything we do. No, I

I don't, never. And when I just left it at that, I was like, fuck it, he's never going to do a duet with me. I've become an accessory. I'm like another Chachi in your life. Stop it. I'm just another, where's Chachi, by the way? He's right here, sleeping. He's in his spot. This is his domain. Okay. There he is. Daddy's asking for you. Okay, hey, buddy. Good to see you. All right, so back to you seeing this, you see New Artist of the Year, and you're just like,

flowing everywhere. I didn't expect to be so emotional and I wanted to post in a video embarrassing myself and me crying. Oh.

because I went in there to try to put, I was like, I want to post this in real time. Cause I don't want to seem great ungrateful. Right. I didn't want to seem like a cocky artist that like was letting it sit for four or five hours. Like I didn't just realize I was nominated for a fucking Grammy. Absolutely. Your first time. Yeah. And I'm going out there and I'm trying to make this video about like sit video four or five. I was like, I'm not going to be able to quit crying. You know what I mean? So I just put it out there as it was. And, um,

Yeah, it was just unreal, man. I hadn't cried like that. I've never cried that hard for something that made me happy. You know what I mean? So it was like, it was different because it was like a sob. It wasn't like emotional, like you win or something or like you're telling a story. Yeah, it was like a real like, oh man, I cannot, but I'm getting teary eyed now. So I cannot believe that this thing has went

and gotten to here. You know, it's like, it's just unreal. I mean, that's the big, I mean, that's the, you know, that's the creme de la creme of this whole thing. Absolutely. But not even stopping at New Artist of the Year because I was videoing your reaction, trying to love on you and video the reaction at the same time. I click off the video and you're like, wait,

But wait, there's more. And you're like, do of the year. That's when I seen it for me and Laney and saved me, man. And I was like, oh, this is dude. So it's two. It's not just one. Like your first time getting nominated for the Grammys, you got two nominations. Like that's fucking amazing. Yeah, it was just and it was cool, man. And me and Laney having this shared moment right now in life is so special to our kinship.

Because to think that she was the most nominated female of the CMAs, I was the most nominated male. She went on to win as many awards as I was nominated for. Right. And then for us to both have two Grammy noms and one of them be together. So it's like, and I think that's a testament of Save Me and how much value she brought to Save Me.

So it's just really cool, man. And one of the first people that called and we created a call and congratulated each other was Kelsey. She's just, she's fired up. Kelsey Ballerini. Yeah, playing on Hittin' Dirks and the Brothers Osborne, which I hung out with TJ the other night. So it was just really cool. War and Treaty I've already hit. It's just seeing the country music family is, and the country category is a little different because, well, you know, it's,

Man, it's hard looking at both categories. I don't remember if Zach Bryan was in the new artist category, but he's in the country duo category. And I love Zach and I love that song with Casey. I think that song's so good. Oh, it's amazing. To see Vince Gill back on there. Yeah, that's wild, right? To see Vince Gill back on there. That's old country. Oh, dude, to see Dierks and Billy Strings' song about weed. That's so cool. So it's like the country category is even more different because you're looking at

Like you want everybody but you to win, kind of. You know what I'm saying? You're looking like God. But I think that's why you do as good as you do and is because your spirit with things is always just so not self-serving. You are always rooting for everybody else around you. Yeah, for sure. And full disclosure before it sounds like a saint, it's also a little self-serving though because I believe all boats float. Right. You know what I mean? Like I believe that

What Zach Bryan does is so incredible for what I do in general. Songs like Save Me can only live because songs like I Remember live. Right. You know, so it's like I always want to live because that stuff just all boats float, dog. Like Noah Kahan, dude. I hate that I'm against this guy. He's so good. The Drunk Now song was the first one I heard. I know everybody's like, everybody heard that first. Yeah, fuck y'all.

Drunk Now, right? Was the first big one I heard. But I mean, dude, this dude is, he is incredible, man. I've never heard of him. It's like real old school, passionate singer, songwriter, guitar. It's like, it's really fucking cool, man. I wonder what genre he even releases under. Americana or pop? Alternative.

Yeah, he's incredible, man. You got to check him out. He's real. You're going to love him. He's your new favorite artist. You don't even know. Really? For sure. I'll have to check him out. Let's talk about the CMAs.

Oh, my God. I'm having my first big viral moment right now. Let's talk about it, baby. I'm having a real viral moment. All the other times I was like, oh, I'm going viral. Baby, you're not viral. You're viral viral. It's viral, dude. Shade room. Breakfast club. Shout out fucking... Charlamagne. Charlamagne the God. We love you. Like, dude, what the fuck? Like, okay, second year, second year.

I've had the honor of being able to be your date each year. And I remember last year we were so fucking nervous. And this year, I feel like I wasn't as nervous, but I feel like you were even more nervous. Yeah. You know, it wasn't about the awards, though. Right. It was about opening the award show. Right. It was like it was like what they call a cold opening. So no introduction. No. Hey, jelly's coming on. Right. Y'all make some noise for jelly.

And acapella for the first 25 seconds. Yeah, that's a lot of pressure. The kind of nudist singing dude having to sing acapella without a key, by the way, because it's acapella, so it's not like I'm hearing a key in my headset or nothing. I'm like...

It was interesting, which we landed the plane. And Wynonna coming out, I was so excited and nervous. Can we talk about that, too? Because that's kind of going a little viral, too, is how Wynonna was hanging on you a little bit. And they said she had a death grip on your jacket. And I think it's really sweet because people saw that you could see that she needed you in that moment. And you just held on to her instead of walking around the whole performance. You literally stood right there and just held her. Yeah, for sure. Well, look, first of all, Wynonna is...

The sweetest human on earth. So fucking cool. Like if there's not a clip from this whole podcast that goes viral, I want this to be the one. Yeah. Or gets any attention. Why? No, no. Judd did not have to do that at all. She has said no to everybody and everything. She not like in a bad way. Why? No, no. Just has always done her own thing. She's that bitch. She's that motherfucker. She's always had a heart for the broken. She's always had a spirit for people like us, you know, um,

I don't want to throw nobody under the bus, but when her name came up, which was first presented because I said I want to bring a special guest because we discussed one. It was the producer of the CMAs, Robert Deaton, who was a sweet guy. He said, you should reach out to Wynonna.

And I was like, I should. And there was people on that call right then. I feel like me and Deaton were the only two that thought it was possible. Right. Tons of people. Yeah. They were like, well, good luck. You know, you know, don't like men like they were trying to manage my expectation. Right. And I was like, I think we got a really me and Wynonna. You talk to her a lot. I talk to her a lot. We're really friends. And I know Wynonna has a deep passion for the music and the love of what the message we're trying to portray.

She didn't hesitate. Yeah. She didn't hesitate. I mean, she had to move mountains to do that. She learned that song on short notice, days notice.

Did hours of rehearsals, just barely enough to even get on there. Yeah. And didn't miss a note. Right. And I think that's the most important part of this story, too, is that how are y'all going to overlook the fact? Yes, you might have been holding on to me. Yeah. But she was blowing to the heavens. The woman was singing from the absolute pit of her soul. Right. And she's totally fine for anybody that was worried about anything deeper. Winona is sharp as a razor. Well, I think a lot of people know that she has vertigo, so they didn't know if she was having an episode or not. Yeah.

Yeah. I didn't even, I didn't even a hundred percent know she had vertigo and I wasn't sure what was happening in the moment either, but it just felt like she, and also in rehearsal, we connected a lot on that stage. It was important for us to make sure that there was a connection because we're connected spiritually anyways. Like there's a way deeper connection than just the collaboration that happened on that stage with us and Wynonna Judd. Yep. And, um,

You know, we're bound in a different way. Our family is connected to her in a different way. Yeah, it feels like we've known her forever. I just met her earlier this year. Literally, she's just such a... I grew up on the Judds. So my inner child, my inner little girl, is when she came to meet us and knew who I was, I was like, how do you know my name? Like, it was just crazy to me. And it's just, she has this, like, over...

Like this just mothering spirit. Yes. Like the minute you are in her...

it's like you just feel like it's a big warm hug. Yes. And you, it's like, you talk about that mothering spirit. She walks in a room and you start thinking of mother stuff. You're like, have I drank water today? Yeah. You're like, have I had water today? Like, have I ate healthy this week? No, like she really has that aura that is just so healing and just, and it's crazy because she's, she has so much pain that she's been through and like to radiate so much healing power everywhere you go is a testimony. Yeah.

Yeah, to think about everything she's been through in her life and the fact that she still comes out there and chooses to stand next to me at my biggest moment to do me a favor on my biggest moment of my career. I get a chance to open the biggest night of country music, period. And you chose, like, it's like...

for a motherfucker to say anything bad about her on the internet that day, I was, I never comment back to stuff cause I just don't think it's worth feeding into. Yeah. But I've been so tempted to go on there and clear that for her. But one thing about why I know that she's a boss, she went straight and cleared it up for herself. Typical air sign. She's like, no, I'm gonna get straight to the point. She was like, let's just get this in the open. Yeah, for sure. Um, so moving forward from the Wynonna, um,

Winona, we love you, by the way. Yeah, and we love you so much. There ain't nothing we don't have to say. We love you so, so much. Moving forward from that, let's talk about...

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Like two little boys. It was Zach too. Zach was like, yo, should we go now? Because like in between commercial breaks. So that's the only time you can move is commercial breaks. Yeah. And Ernest and him went about three, four commercial breaks before that and came back with drinks. Right. But we were out of drinks. And I was like, yeah, I think it's, you know, we should go get a drink. And then my wife grabs me. She's like,

y'all are nominated for the next category. Y'all have to sit here. And the funny thing is I wouldn't have been surprised if Zach would have been like, fuck it. Let's still go to the bar. He, um, dude, let's touch on, he was really sweet. He's, I had so much fun sitting next to him for those couple hours because we were talking about the music and,

And we were laughing and fucking smacking beer. And I'm ripping a weed pen. I mean, we're just having a, we're literally. When I say, when he says ripping a weed pen, he was straight up fucking blowing clouds with fucking Jason Aldean to his right. Fucking Chris Stapleton. I was like, I smacked him. I'm like, babe.

Don't be the white trash that we are right now. You just have some damn cooth, please. I was nervous. I was nervous. I couldn't believe it. And Zach, man, I mean, we just had a ball. His spirit towards me that night was something I'll remember forever. Especially because we were talking about the award all the way leading up to it.

I don't know if you see it or not, but when they're announcing both of our names, we're touching each other's shoulders. And that meant so much to me, man, that, you know, he's just a great fucking dude. Yeah. You just felt that radiating off of him. Yeah.

So yeah, Zach was like, let's go grab a drink. And I was like, I think we should wait for this word. He's like, oh shit. I was like, he was like mad disappointed. No, it was fun. Is he like anti-establishment? No, man. You know, we talked about that too. It's just like, I'm sure he don't mind me sharing this. I hope not, Zach. I love you. You know, I say stuff with a good spirit. He was like, he just, you know, it's like,

It's just weird to him, like where he came from and how he's built this thing, like to be in this room with all, like he's done it so in his own unique, special way. Right. Not being anti, he just started writing songs in a place where it just, there wasn't no, you know, I mean, he wrote some of his biggest hits when he was in the military. Right. So, I mean, he's just by himself and then he goes straight into the catapult of touring and life and, you know, so, and then you're sitting there around this place and, you know,

He only knows a few of us. And he told me that, too. He's like, yo, I'm good to see a familiar face, you know? Yeah. And he's like, all these cameras are in his face. And he's like, yo, this is fucking weird. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, and I mean, they're very invasive. They will literally, your face is right here. They will be right here. Yeah, for sure. With a camera. They don't care. Yeah, Zach was like, yo, this is like, and he's just so Zach Bryan. He's just sitting there enjoying the music fucking with a Bob Dylan t-shirt on. Yeah. And a backward ball cap and a half drinking beer. Yeah. There was a moment where I felt like we were tailgating.

Yeah. Right. And we were watching an award show on TV outside of a college football game. You know what I'm saying? That's how it was starting to feel, what me and him were doing. So, yeah. And then they call the award and...

I really thought that Zach had deserved it. I thought I deserved it as well because I've been working really hard. And I think that's how we're all supposed to feel. I hope Megan Maroney thought she deserved it. I think Parker deserved it too. I think Parker's had a hell of a year. Shout out Parker and Haley. We love them. Yeah, they're the best. We love Megan too. That's our daughter. No, for sure. Love Megan. Love Haley Withers. Yes. I thought that all of them were deserving of it. But I mean, I think that Zach Bryan has just done...

His numbers are just so undeniable. His impact. He's the second most streamed artist in country music behind Morgan. And it's close. Yeah. So, I mean, he's he's a just juggernaut. So I was totally prepared for Zach to win and I was totally going to be happy for him. Yeah. And I thought maybe Parker would sneak one in. You know what I mean? Or Megan and one of the, you know, the Texas boy would win. So I really I really didn't think I had a chance at that award. Like for sure.

So when I went up there, I was thinking one. They call your name. What's going through your mind? Fuck. Kiss my wife. Kiss my wife. Don't forget to kiss the wife on TV. I swear. Because sometimes, well, you know, sometimes I get excited and I just get to moving. And I was just like, you know how you're always told, like when I get really excited, my wife has to tell me to slow down. Yeah. Because I just get to just, you know, whatever. So I was just like, go slow. That's why I took such my time walking up there. Yeah. You know what I mean? I was like, man, I'm going to soak this in, dude. You know?

That's why I hugged everybody on the stage that was giving me the award. I was like, I am not. Because at the CMTs, I was so nervous. I was just rushing everywhere. I'm speed-waffling to the stage. I was like, not tonight, dude. I am fucking cruising. And then I was thinking, how can I thank the most important people the quickest?

thank the other nominees of course who I thought were so deserving and especially Zach because it was really important for me to make a point to give Zach his flowers on that stage. And then what can I say to make somebody feel like they're not alone? And that's literally what was rushing through my head. Like what can I say that can inspire somebody that is like, I'm thinking about the 25 year old that's like dude this is never going to work. And it's like dude you're so far away from this not. You know what I mean? Like

You have no clue. Like if I gave up at 27, I wouldn't be sitting here winning this award. Yeah. And two days later, I'd wake up and be nominated for a Grammy. You know what I mean? Like, and I thought about quitting at 27 and 28. You made a fucking blog about it.

For sure. Yeah. That you weren't going to do rap music anymore. And like, yeah, that was before save me even came out. Wasn't that the blog that we had dropped where you had said, and just so everybody knows, I'm not making a rap album again or something like that. And that was like 28, 2019. Yeah. And I haven't. Yeah. No, I know. I made a rap album since then. Um, stay true. I said all this Bible. Yeah. We need to find that footage. Um,

Yeah, because I just knew that my heart was changing and what the songs I was writing were developing. But yeah, I just I thought about quitting this thing so many times. So I was just hoping like, let's let that message get across. And it wasn't meant to be as like pastory as it was. You can't help it, though. That's you get like that even at home. Like when you're talking about stuff, you just are so like, that's you. That is you.

Thank you. Yeah. I was hoping somebody that knew me would say that eventually. Yeah. Because like.

When I get really excited on the red carpet, I think sometimes people are like, is this like, is this dude selling us something? It's like, oh, you've never been around me. No, you are the most boisterous fucking animated human. When I'm really fired up. You're like one of those football players who's like, yeah, fucking go team. Like, that's you, dude. Like, you get excited. Yeah, I get like, when you see us standing up when our friends won awards, that's real. I'm fired up. Yeah. You know, I'm like, I'm so happy. Yeah.

So, yeah, but also I'm looking up at a screen, mama, and it says 19 seconds, 18 seconds, 17 seconds. And I'm like, oh, my God, I got a lot. I want to get off. I was like, I got so much. So I'm just like trying to roar through something. And I'm like, I got to land this plane in six seconds, five seconds, four seconds.

And let me tell you, land you did, motherfucker, on every fucking blog outlet, vlog, blog, dog with a blog, everything, dude. Like, you are everywhere. I mean, we're talking like...

Millions upon millions upon millions of views on this clip of yours. Tens. Dare I say it, you're the coolest thing that's happened at the CMAs in a really long fucking time. Literally tens of millions of views. Yeah. No, it's insanity, dude. Like over 50 or something is what I've seen. I mean, you have made it on every platform. I mean, you have crossed over. They said that you and, you know, we'll touch lightly on this, but...

Twitter is always in a division. That's probably one of the hardest platforms. And they said that you united Twitter for one day. They said Twitter was united for a day. They said me and Rod Wave could do a song and end racism. Literally. It's crazy because when you think about it, nobody can say anything bad about what you said.

What you said was the truth, and some people really needed to fucking hear that. And I read a comment the other day under one of the people that posted you, and somebody said, damn, I realized I haven't been to church in a while. That's amazing. The fact that your 15-second speech could really touch and move people the way that it has. It's a blessing that you get. I was given exactly 60 seconds to...

say something I knew I didn't think I was going to win so I knew this was my only time to talk like I knew that I knew I definitely wasn't going to win another one I didn't think I was going to win this one definitely not winning male vocalist you know what I'm saying which I don't deserve it period but I'm like well you had even said if you won male vocalist you wouldn't accept it I would not have accepted that award I would have made Cody Johnson or Morgan Wallen come up and get it for sure or Luke Luke was in it too

But I think Luke's had it once. I don't think Morgan or Cody have got it. Yeah. I think they should just call it the Chris Stapleton Award and let him give it away. At this point, him, Old Dominion and Chris Stapleton are fucking... Old Dominion. It should be the Old Dominion Award and that's group of the year. Yeah. And it should be the Chris Stapleton Award and that's male vocalist of the year. Literally.

Which is a testament to how incredible Stapleton is. Yeah, he's, I mean, just to watch him live, that was the first time I got to watch him live, and holy shit, what a fucking voice, dude. Yeah, it's the real deal 100% of the time. He's a anomaly, vocally. But yeah, I would not have accepted that award. So I knew I wasn't going to have a speech then, I wasn't going to win. But if I did, my speech was going to be Cody Johnson, Morgan Wallen, come up here now. Yeah, whatever.

What a moment. Yeah, you have that one moment and you're like, yo, I got to shoot this. This is my shot. I got to fire. I got to shoot my shot. I got to fire. This is it. I told Jay this morning, I was like, man, I got to really set my game up because now that you're Grammy nominated, all the fucking groupies are going to come out of the woodworks. Shit. Our love is such a love thing. Listen, girls are scared to even tell me I look cute.

Oh, because our love is so public. I want to have a girl. They won't even flatter me. I wish they would. I watch dudes. You're hot. Julie's wife's hot. I wish somebody's wife would be like, Julie's kind of cute. You guys, please flood my husband with sweet comments because he deserves it. You're a fucking stud. I couldn't be more. I just I feel so redundant and proud. Just had stopped being a word fucking four years ago just for all the accomplishments. But yeah,

Are you finally just happy? Are you in a place where I don't ever want to say content because I know my husband, you're never going to be content. But is this today? Is this the first day that you were ever to be like, fuck, I've made it? I think that's why I was so emotional this morning because it was like this was the first time I really thought, man, this is it don't get no bigger than this. Right. You know, this is this is the mountain that you chase.

We were talking about it this morning. You and I are hip hop kids. So watching the Grammys growing up, that was like the ultimate fucking thing to ever get, you know, like you being a rapper, you were watching that saying, I'm going to be there one day. Oh yes. Maybe in a groupie. I was saying, I'm going to make it there one day too, you know, but to me, and I know, I know over the years it might've changed. Just kidding. I'm not a groupie. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. Um, um,

To me, I remember the Grammys as being the one time of the year that the entire world stopped what they were doing to watch what's happening in the entertainment world. Absolutely. Like every genre watches rock. You know what I mean? Like seeing the nominations come out today and watching all my rock homies and watching my songwriters. Jesse Joe Dillon. Yes. Was nominated a songwriter of the year. We love Jesse Joe. Sweet girl. Love you so much, Jesse Joe. So, so proud of you.

And you'd look at all these other genres and now you have friends. So like, you know, like you see Zach and you're like, this is awesome. Yeah. You know, you see people that you're like, oh, that's, that's deserving. That's cool. And it's kind of a praise moment where just the, you, it's one night that we celebrate music. Yeah. And it's kind of one night where the boxes don't really matter no more. Right. You know, and that's the hardest thing of the music business. Cause there's so many boxes. And then,

You know, no matter what box you're in, people don't think you belong in it. Right. You know, and I thought that was just me because I always get the you're not country stuff. And it's like, what I got to do? Go fuck a goat. You know what I mean? God, would it help if I told everybody Bunny was my cousin? Bunny's my cousin, y'all. You know, it's like, fucking what do y'all need from me? Not first. We're real cousins. We're cousin cousins. But it's like, you know, bad joke. But I'm from the South. I can joke like that. Yeah, for sure. But it's...

You look and it's one night that everybody's just in one big pot together and it's just music. And what's cool is I feel like we are all our own little family in this country music family. So now we're going to a new high school. Yes. It's like at least we've got friends. At least we've got friends. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's like we're going to another high school. Yeah. Yeah, we're like mixing schools for a day. At least I got all my homies with me. So it's like I'll look at Dierks Bentley, which I look at him as a friend now, but on the red carpet that day I'll be like,

Thank God you're here. Yeah. Thank God he's here. You know, I'll look over at that table full of songwriters. I don't know. And see Jesse Joe Dillon and be like, that's my motherfucker. Absolutely. You know what I mean? I'll look over at the other table and we'll see Kelsey and we'll see Billy strings and we'll see all these people and be like, that's our squad. You know, I'm saying I'm, I've already suggested to Blaney,

Everybody who's accepting my call today that which I'm calling everybody. He's been on the horn all day. I'm ready to get over this podcast. Keep making my calls. But and I was like, yo, we should do we should have like a country music pre party or post party for just us. Invite everybody. But like, let's not play the game. Let's go find our own place. Rent it out. Throw our own party. All the country music people and invite the rest of the world to come see how we party.

Absolutely. You know what I mean? Because I think a lot of them people will come to our party and be like, yo, they party like us. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because we party. White trash bash. Yeah, 100%. That'd be awesome.

Speaking of phone calls, you made a phone call to Miss Donna D for today to tell her about your Grammys. Kind of walk us through that. It's the most emotional yet funny video I think could ever be made because it's two totally different emotions happening. Right. Right. It's like so my mother's in her in her in her late 70s, early mid 70s. She's.

Not wheelchair bound, but you know, she definitely moves around better in a wheelchair. She's got a walker. She's an older woman. She's been tough on herself, you know, and she can't hear for shit. And we bought her the creme de la creme of hearing aid. She just still can't hear shit. So I call her and I'm like, yo, and I'm like, I, I, this is four hours after the announcement.

Because I've like let myself calm down emotionally enough to make this call so I could like at least choke through it. Yeah. Because, you know, it's a big thing to call your mom and go, dude, your son is a Grammy nominated, has been nominated to win a, you know, for a Grammy. Why get emotional talking about it? Yeah. It's like that's a big thing. You know, like you want to. It's a dream. You know, God, I couldn't imagine.

One of my kids calling me, you know, I'll be excited when I'm calls and goes, I got accepted. I'll cry. I was like, I got accepted into a community college because the family we came from, it's like breaking any curse is huge. So, um,

And I'm calling. I'm trying not to be emotional, which of course I am. You know what I mean? I'm like, well, I just called to tell you that your son and right then I choke up. Right. And she's so deaf. She goes, huh? And I'm like choking back a tear. So I'm like, you got me a present. No, no, no. First she goes, I'm ready. Like, give it to me. I'm ready. And then she's like, you brought me a present. And I was like,

I've been nominated for a Grammy. And she was like, I don't know what she said. Something for the family? And I was like, I've been nominated for a Grammy award. And I thought she didn't know what the Grammys were for a second, which she knows what the Grammys are. But I think what she was saying is for what. Right. But she was like, what is it? Yeah. But I think what she meant was like, what were you nominated for? Right. But I was like, the biggest award show on earth? And then I loved it.

There's this really cute, honest moment where she goes, well, you have to remind me when it's closer because I'll forget. And I'm like, you want to go? And dude, I mean, I had to choke back tears for this. She was like, I'm going to have to get a really nice dress. And I thought, I've never seen my mother in a dress.

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Sign up today. And I was like, man, that's crazy. You know what I mean? Because, dude, I spent years of my life not seeing my mother dressed.

Can we talk about the transformation with Donna D. Ford these past couple of years? Because you have come on the podcast and we've heard in other interviews that you've talked about, you know, Mama D's mental health and stuff like that. And this these past, what, two, three years? Dude, completely different human. She has traveled more this year than she has the other 74 years she's been alive. Yeah, there was times she wouldn't even come out of her room.

When we first got together, we couldn't get her to go on vacation with us to California. Decades of not coming out of her bedroom. Now she's going to Florida with her friends. Yeah. Now she's going to Florida with her friends, going to Florida with us, gambling with me at casinos in Michigan. Yeah. You know, I mean, coming to your shows. She's coming to the show. She's just popping up at any show that's closed. Yeah.

It's unbelievable, man, how well she's doing. I'm so proud. She quit smoking cigarettes, dude. Bro, crazy. That lady smoked two packs of cigarettes, 100s, the long ones. Virginia Slims when I was a kid. That woman loved a cigarette. The big ones. You know what I'm saying? Dude, she was a cigarette-smoking fool. Remember the time we let her move in with us, and my one rule was, Donna, you're not allowed to smoke in the house. Yeah. What'd she do? Smoked in the house. She don't care. And then tried to lie about it. I didn't smoke in the house. Yeah, and it's just a waft.

of smoke over her head and she's like what are you talking about cigarettes are just all the way through the house yeah so like to see you know to see where she's at in her life and I tell you what dude I'm gonna put her in a dress and push her ass down that red carpet let's fucking do it baby oh my god what an iconic moment though to get a picture of you and your mom on the red carpet oh dude I'll cry bro it'll be the coolest moment ever you know for us to have that memory it'll be crazy for me to carry it for our grand for her great grandchildren to see it and stuff that you just think about this is

It's unreal that the fairy tale that you and I are living in right now is being captured in 4K. It's crazy. Right? That, you know, I don't have a single video of my parents from their childhood. I got a couple of black and white pictures and like,

My great grandchildren are going to be able to relive me and you at award shows and red carpets. And it's just what a dream. And it's not just because of where we are in our lives. Everybody has this now because of phones. Yeah. You know, so it's really cool. It'd be cool to catch that moment with her. It is a fairy tale. I every time I post something, all I can say is like we're like an outlaw fairy tale because we really were not. We're.

not supposed to be here. You know, like your background, where you grew up, how you grew up, being an ex-felon fucking drug dealer, you know, like it's just crazy because it's a real life fairy tale. It's, I mean, we wasn't supposed to be here. What's that J lyric? We wasn't supposed to be here. Now that we're here, you know what I'm saying? Are we allowed to talk about that or no? I don't know. Oh, come on, please. Come on. No.

Please. It's just so cool. I think it's the coolest thing ever, but it's one of them weird things that if we talk about it, it might fuck it up. Or he might know how much you admire him and think it's fucking amazing. I think he knows. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Jay knows how much I fucking... We're talking about Jay-Z, guys. Yeah, huge fan of Jay-Z. So Jay's manager now used to manage Jay-Z, and that's where the correlation is. Me being the first Jay. Right. Yeah. So my manager now used to manage Jay-Z. Right. And...

allegedly Jay-Z hit him up and talked about how cool he thought the speech was. Yeah. I just don't know if I wanted to say that and throw him under the bus because Jay's such a private dude, you know? But wow. And I'd hate for me saying that, fuck up my chance to be fucking Jay-Z one day.

day. The little hip hop kids inside of us. That's amazing. My dad bought me the decoded book for Christmas one year. Yeah. You know when they decode the lyrics of the book like that was a Christmas gift to me one. Oh yeah. And you guys are both sad just isn't he

We're the same fucking birthday. Yeah, you guys have the same exact birthday. Yes, and Max Holloway, champions across the board, baby. December 4th's got some legends. Yeah, y'all don't miss. That's for sure. You motherfuckers do not miss. When you dial into something, it's on and cracking. Thank you, thank you. Well, baby, you want to answer some questions? We can get to the fun part of the fucking, well, I mean, this was fun. I was going to say, it's much more fun than this. I feel like we're doing a really good one this time. Yeah, amazing. I feel like this is good. Yeah.

We're talking about some cool stuff. Hey, can we talk about tour? Oh, motherfucker. Yes. And Mimi, will you pick out some stuff for us on Patreon while we talk about tour? You only let me on your podcast once every 20 months. I know. We got a lot of catching up today. Well, first of all, you do everybody else's podcast. So it's like, I don't want to bring a watered down guest on my podcast. God forbid you bring a whore on your podcast.

You would never. I mean, it's hosted by a whore. I figured I'd be accepted here. Dude, let's talk about the fucking tour, though, because that was insanity, too. And for everybody not to toot my own horn, but my husband did not think I was going to fucking go out the entire tour with him. No, I did not.

We even had a slight argument about it. Not an argument, but I was just managing expectations. But I told him, I was like, I am dialed in, motherfucker. I'm going. And it was, thank you for letting me go and having me go. I don't want to say letting me because then people will be like, oh, he's abusive. But it's like, thank you for having me there because it really made me step outside my box and realize that,

I don't know. I just worked a lot of shit out on that tour too. No, man, you really, you did really well. You, uh, you dealt with your anxiety incredibly well. That's the only thing I was worried about with it, but it was awesome. I thought it went incredible. I mean, I didn't normally, I can look back at a tour and say that show was kind of whatever. There's just always like an outlier of at least one show that you're like, yeah, it was kind of trash. Right. That didn't happen. And this whole tour, when they asked my favorite show, I was like,

How can you can't pick? I think that's such an unfair question when people ask you that, because it's like every city brings a different energy. And there's always the only thing to make shows different is like little things that can make things special. Like Austin will always stand out because my friends from the comedy mothership came and Tony Hinchcliffe and like,

When Nate Diaz comes out. Like, those things are, like, things that stick. The three, six dates. But... Yeah. All the shows were, crowd-wise, incredible every single night. I mean, we're talking 20,000 plus. Every night. Like... Every night. Like, 780,000 tickets sold for the whole tour. Baby, I remember... 540,000 tickets on 40 dates of just the Live Nation portion of the tour. Did Baby Jason, who played to fucking...

bars. Oh, at the playing field in Antioch? Fuck no. Ever think that he would be looking out into the crowd at 20,000 people? Like, were your expectations high back then or were you just like, I just want to make it? I just want to make it. That's it. Never had a high expectation. Never dreamed of this, to be honest. I, even the Grammys, like I would watch the Grammys and then I would go to my bedroom and I would do the songs they were doing in my microphone or by my, my fake microphone, a pencil or a hairbrush or something or, you know,

You know what I mean? I would dream of, I didn't know I had, I didn't have a music talent back then, but I didn't think I'd end up at the Grammys no more than if I watched Auburn play college football on a Saturday and then went out in the front yard and threw the football to myself and acted like I made a touchdown plan for the Auburn Tigers or made a touchdown plan for the Tennessee Vols because my family was half Auburn fans, half Vols fans. You know, no more like, oh, Jelly Roll, Coxback, Peyton Manning, the Jelly, Jelly Catches, Touchdown Jason.

You know, and I was like, in my mind, I was like, one day I'm going to go do this at UT. I never thought that. I was just being a kid. Right. So it actually to manifest itself and come alive, you know? Yeah. It's crazy. It's been fucking insane. It's been a wild ride, dude. And, you know, just to get to see the machine behind it, I don't think people realize what goes into a tour and how, like,

how many moving parts there are to like put a show together. Yeah. Especially that magnitude. It's, we had 60, almost 70 employees on our, just on our end that were with us every day. Yeah. Every single day, a 70 person crew pulled up. I don't remember everybody's name. Right. You can't learn everybody's name over the course of a, you know, a night at a 60, 70 day tour and that many names or whatever. Yeah. Um,

80-something days. I don't remember how many it was. It was July 28th. It was 11 weeks. July 28th until October 13th or 14th. Yeah, the 14th or 15th. Yeah. So whatever it was. But, you know, you got 70 people. And then you don't count. There's another anywhere from 30 to 60 locals doing hands backstage. Another 30 to 60 locals out front. Four to five police officers. Special med units. Another 50 security officers. So, like, you're employing 300 people a show. Yeah. Yeah.

400 people a show. It's a huge deal, man. You know, your shows made news in most cities that you went to because getting in and out of your concerts was complete fucking chaos. Yeah. Traffic. We had traffic news. It was wild. Yeah, it was wild. It was stuff I would have never even thought could be a thing. Yeah. And I

I'm really proud of like, you think about this, like social impact you bring to economies and cities to the stuff that you're like, man, I never even thought about this kind of shit until you're in the middle of the storm of it. And I was in the middle of the storm of it too. It was awesome. Everybody, but the crowds, the fans, um,

Struggle opening every show. Josh Adam Myers just killed it. Caitlin Curtis. Caitlin Curtis, man, just undeniable every time she sings, you know? Amazing. And then the fact that we got to do some shows with Yellow Wolf. Yeah, we love Yellow. God, the fact Three Six Mafia, Juicy J and DJ Pop.

All together? I got to do a TikTok with DJ Paul. I was so happy. I love Paul. I just love, love, love Paul. He's the best, man. Him and Juicy were two of the first to congratulate me on the Grammy today. Yeah. They were two of the first to congratulate. Both of them posted me the night that I won the CMAs. Aw. It's just cool.

Ashley McBride. Love her. The Grammy award winning Ashley McBride. The Grammy award winning Ashley McBride. It's different now that you know the pride of her, right? Yeah, for sure. That's amazing that she won a Grammy. That's fucking so cool. So happy for her. She is one of the best. She connected so well. Yeah. Man. Jesse Murph came out for a couple. Jesse Murph came out for a couple. Jesse Murph came out. I would watch Ashley McBride sing.

I would stand side stage every night. She would leave the light on in the kitchen because I just love that song. It's such a good song. I say it all the time, but if you don't remember this area, you're not going to understand this. But sometimes when I hear songs, I see them. And when I hear this song, I see linoleum floors and wallpaper. Yeah. You know what I mean? And your mom smoking a cigarette at the table. I see my mother smoking a cigarette at the table.

And I see like, I see this like distinct vision of my childhood. And I know that if I'm seeing that, that everybody is that's in that era. So it's like to write a song. If you, if I tell people all the time, you can write a song, a person can feel in their spirit or a song that a person can see. Dude,

Dude, that is the greatest song. That is like the gift of all songs, you know? It's amazing. She performed it at the CMAs and it was just so beautiful. Yeah. It just makes sense. It's one of those songs that just makes sense and it's a feel-good song. Yes, for sure. And you don't see it coming. So the crowd that didn't know it, you get to that final line of the hook and that's why I leave a light on in the kitchen. And you just watch the arena erupt. Yeah. You know? Yeah, she's amazing. And it's encouraging. She's looking snatched, too. She's looking great. Fucking amazing.

They asked me my celebrity crush on the red carpet. I was like, I'll take Ashley McBride. I love that. Jesse Murph, you guys just dropped a song, Wild Ones. Yes. My little sister, dude. That's my little homie. She's so cute. Dude. She's so beautiful. What a gorgeous kid. And her soul. Yeah.

Her soul is like, I met her brother, talked to her about her family, grew up in a musical household. Everybody sang or played. Her brother's her lead guitar player now. He's incredible. I'll be honest.

I was worried. Her voice is so unique and so raspy and so smoky that I was worried if she was hurting herself when she was singing. Right. You know, you know, because it's like sometimes you can find something in your throat that sounds really good, but it's not sustainable. Right. So when she came out to sing with the first time, we were her simple man in the dressing room. And as soon as she started singing, I was like,

This girl's going to do this forever. Yeah. Like, this is the most... Because, like, when you see somebody sing in front of you... Like, Lainey's the same way. Yeah, amazing. Ashley's another one. Yeah. That's the same way. Kelsey. God, all the women in country music. Carrie Underwood. Yeah. Everyone... Stevie Nicks. Stevie Nicks, yeah. These are people that, like...

It's this iconic thing in their voice. And especially with women singers. So Janis Joplin had that. Janis Joplin had it. Exactly. She sings. Jessie sounds a lot like a bluesy Nelly Furtado. Yeah. That's a good one, too. Yeah. Yeah. You think she just it's funny. All the comparisons we have of her are Amy Winehouse. Yeah.

are these iconic voices. And I, and I had that moment in that dressing room with her that first time I was like, Oh my God. Cause she wasn't trying. She was like just making sure she had like, I come in here and I'd go like, and I'm like, Whoa, yeah, exactly like that. You know what I mean? She's just so incredible. And then I got to work with her on the record and, uh,

To be so young, she knows exactly what she wants. Yeah. Which is so cool. When you told me that, I loved that about her. Her confidence and her understanding of what she's looking for. Right. Even to the point of me and her having a conversation where I'm like, what do you think about this? And she's like, I like it, but what about this? And I'm like, yes. Cool. Yeah.

She's just awesome, man. She deserves everything she's getting. And I was just honored to be a part of a song. Yeah. That song was a hit without, I didn't have anything to do with that song being a hit. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, she's a fucking powerhouse in herself. But I do think that you added a little flavor to it. Yeah, for sure. I added an age element, if nothing else. We were actually kind of like worried about the age thing because we didn't know how people were going to receive it. But it turned out to be. First, I was worried about it. And then you got me calm. And then you got worried about it. And then I got stressed. And I was like, what? What?

Because we're always trying to walk a fine line here. And, you know, the way the internet is these days. We got to quit reading the comments. Yeah, you know, the way the internet is these days, you never know how people are going to act. But it was received so well. And then you guys did Jimmy Kimmel together. And that was a fucking hit. And, I mean, now it's like just off the charts right now. 100%. No, Jessie Murphy is the best. She came out to two shows. And one night she came out, Lainey was a guest surprise too. So I had one night where I had –

Tony Hinchcliffe and Brian Simpson and all my favorite comedians with me. And I had Jesse Murph and Lainey Wilson and Ashley McBride, all as special guests during my set one night. Yeah. And I go back to the story I always tell about

I think it's kind of looking over me because of my childhood that somehow women have always been such a pivotal piece of the biggest moments of my life. Yeah. Like having a daughter being what got me to quit selling drugs and start really trying to make music. Marrying you, which made me really settle down into my dreams and focus on just building something with somebody instead of, you know, just whatever. Chasing tail. Chasing tail pretty much. Right. Um,

And then you look at like my, our publicist, Jennifer Vessio, you know, so many publicists turned me down. Oh, I had one fire me because me and Andrew Schultz were friends. Literally was my publicist for like,

20 hours. You know what I'm saying? And I was like, yo, me and my buddy Andrew Schultz did a song together and they were like, we're out. Yeah. You know, and now by the way, he just sold out Madison Square Garden. Grandma Maxine gives her vaccine. Yeah, right? And by the way, Andrew Schultz just sold out Madison Square Garden two fucking nights in a row. Let's fucking go, baby. Two nights in a row, Schultzy, baby. We love Schultzy, baby. Yeah, Madison Square Schultz, baby. We love Schultzy. Yeah, I lost the whole publicist being his friend.

That's hilarious. There was a lot of publicists who didn't want to work with you. They all turned me down, but it took one woman publicist with her own little boutique office that was like, yeah, I get it. You hang out with a bunch of comedians, so you say wild shit, but you don't mean it. You got a good spirit.

She's been a fucking pit bull, dude. She's a pit bull, dude. She's amazing. She is amazing. Shout out Vessio. We love you. Yeah. Hope your little foot's feeling better. Yeah. Poor, poor Vessio. She just broke her foot the day of the CMAs. Yeah, she was crutching into the after party. Oh, she was thugging. She let the crutches go. She was faster than me and you. She let the crutches go and was just fucking flopping on the boot. I was like, Jen, get your fucking crutches. What are you doing? We're both fucking hobbling around. Um...

Which was really cool. So Vessio, Joe Jamie. Yeah. Over at the label. I love Joe so much. You know, just it's always been these, the women of country, Miranda Lambert. We love Miranda. You know, rallied behind me. Laney being a part of my big single, didn't hesitate. Yeah.

my friendship with Ashley, Kelsey. It's like all these, you know, it's just been really cool to see that. And I say it is because of you. They all love you to death and I'm safe. They know that I'm not going to flirt with none of them or be fucking weird. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I'm like everybody's dad. You are.

But you are a safe space. For sure. And people. So are you, though. That's what makes your podcast. Let me give you your flowers. We're talking about you. No, no, shut the fuck up and accept this, okay? You're going to take this dick, girl. I'm going to take it. I'm going to take it.

I'm going to take it. You deserve this. It's like, that's what I hear the most about you from people that come on your pod or people that you talk to is that you create a real safe place. And I think that's the magic of us, period, is that we are a safe place for people. Because what I've learned about life is the people who have lived in the most unsafe circumstances aspire to create the most safe circumstances. And I think people see that in us.

You know what I mean? I think that's that doorway into that. You know what I mean? Absolutely. Women writers, Jessie Jo Dillon, Jessie Alexander, you know what I mean, have been...

pivotal pieces of my writing process. - Yeah, Hillary and Monica, right? - Oh God, yeah. Dude, Hillary, Hillary Lindsey, insane. So it's been so, Monica from Good Morning America. - I love her. - God damn. - She had her rack out the other night. I was like, bring them titties. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, Monica was looking good the other night. - She was racking it up, bro. I was like, what's up, girl? - I was like, go, Monica, go. I was like, did you take pictures on the red carpet? - Yeah. - I made her take a picture with me holding my award.

Speaking of the award that you dropped. Yeah, I fumbled it right after I let her hold it. I knew you were going to do it. No, I'm joking. First of all, he gets the award. They hand him the award. And within two seconds, Luke walks by and he goes, Luke. And he like puts his fucking award out like a lightsaber. And him and Luke Combs start fucking lightsabering the awards. And the lady who handed you the award goes, oh,

I was like, oh my God, this is not going to be good. And then we clinked it. Luke said, give it a little tap. Luke, give it a little tap. We're like, tink, tink. Yeah, no, I was like. I forgot me and Luke did that. We were tipsy. No, I was like, bro, he's going to break this. And then you were doing the interviews and I had to go back to the bus and they came in and they're like,

Jelly broke his CMA award. I was like, go fucking figure. Par for the course for my little fucking bull in a china shop. You know like when somebody drops a tray of plates at a restaurant? Yeah. And everybody's like, I dropped that award in the media room and you could have heard a mouse piss on cotton. Yeah.

I'm not bullshitting. Because nobody wanted to get blamed for it. I'm not bullshitting. Everybody's like, I didn't do it. I didn't do it. I was like, oh, no. And I was like, all I screamed was, Vessio, I fucked up. And Vessio comes around the corner. And she's so funny. This is our publicist again. Vessio's like, hey, just keep doing media as normal and don't talk about breaking the award. And I walked straight into it. And I go, did y'all see I just broke the trophy? And she was like, I fucking hate working for you. She was...

I love that Vessio gets you though and she doesn't get mad at you. You know, like she tries to gently guide you and you need that because if you had a publicist that was like strict with you, you'd fucking fire them. 100%. Yeah. No, she's loving it. I'm just glad it didn't make no article because I was joking. Then I started joking. I was like, yeah, I threw it at my publicist. Yeah. Trying to break her other foot. Bad publicist. Bad publicist. She takes it well, but.

I think you can hear the sound on Entertainment Tonight. You can hear it breaking. Oh, yeah. And then you walk into the set. Yeah, and then I'm like, yeah. Sheepishly. Like, you walk in there just like sheepishly. Like, I just broke the CMA award. Because I was like, are they going to give me another one? I was like, what if that blows my only chance? Like, that's not the storyline I want leaving this award show. Yeah, they'll never, they'll hold a grudge.

Yeah, right? They're like, you can't give him shit. Yeah, ever. I secretly hope they send me that one duct taped. That would be fucking awesome. That's my prayer. I'm the only person. Or like a super glue and you just see the glue on the outside. They don't mold. You know what I mean? That would be hilarious. It looks like it's clearly put back together. I love it, baby. I'm just so proud of you. Like this fucking year has been a whirlwind. Oh, dude.

What the fuck? What the fuck? I posted it just now because I videoed it the other night. It feels like our documentary came out a lifetime ago. Yeah, like two years ago. And it was four months ago. Wow, that's perspective. I never even thought about that. They started filming our documentary a year ago at the CMAs, a little bit before that, but...

That's how fast that happened. We walked our first red carpet ever at the CMAs one year ago from when this podcast is dropping.

Never walked on a red carpet before ever. Neither one of us. And now we're like vets. Now we're like, what's up red carpet for us? What are we wearing? What car are we pulling up in? You have cars designed just to fucking pull up. Yeah, well, not next year. I'm a bad habit. Okay, good. We're going to power on a car next year. Very stressful. But I will say we started a small trend. A lot of cars pulled up to the red carpet this year. I was excited about that. Good. Yay. Trendsetters. Hey, man. You never know. Who would have thunk it?

Who'd have thunk, baby? Well, you want to answer some questions? Yeah. I just enjoy talking to you, though. I love talking to you, too. But I love our Patreon family. Yeah, we got to love our Patreon. We got to love on the Patreon. You got to give them the exclusives. I keep telling you, and I want you, you better put this on Patreon because I want to see y'all tell it y'all want it. I think me and Bunny should do a question and answer a month for just Patreon. Okay, hold on.

Hold on here. Cause my husband has this, this thing where he likes to throw me under the bus, but not fucking explain the entire fucking situation. I would love to commit to that, honey, but you have commitment issues and I don't want to ever get people excited and hyped up and you fucking cancel all this. I'm getting you on this pod. I had to throw a fit for my husband to come on this podcast. Let's keep it real. He was going to go on somebody else's podcast. And I said, wait a fucking second.

I said, you promised me that you would sit down with me first. And he was like, he could tell that I was kind of pissed about it. And he was like, all right, well, fuck it. When do you want to do it? When do you want to do your podcast? And I'm like, let's do it this weekend. And then he still couldn't do it. And then fucking today, it just happened to work. Well, lucky for me, I had a vision, okay? Because she wanted to do it on like Monday or Sunday. And I was like, yo, the CMAs are Wednesday. Should we just wait and see if something really cool happens there? Which did.

I wish my husband really had that much insight. Imagine if we didn't even did it last night. We'd have blew the whole Grammy thing. Yeah, that would have been crazy. Because we were supposed to do it last night. Yeah. I mean, everything happens for a reason. But I would love to do a Q&A with Daddy every fucking month if you ever would like to just sit down. So we'll put it in the universe. And if I can get Daddy to do it,

let's do it hey man i mean as long as y'all bring the camera to us so will jelly roll be hiring who will you be hiring to decorate your tree for the christmas tree competition this year i've never hired anybody that was a lie okay that was a big old big old big old big old fib hold on they would say do you not have people that get paid to work for us decorate your tree would that be better politically correct

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They don't get paid to decorate the tree, though. Okay, but they get paid by us to run errands and do stuff for us. Ish. They work for us, and they love the tree-helping aspect of what we do. No, they don't love it. They dread it every fucking year. That is not the case. Oh, fucking please. They love it. No, baby. I'm trying to tell you. No, I don't need... You piss me off with that so much that I...

then I am not only going to do my own tree, I'm going to make a whole documentary about it. No, you're not. And I'm putting it on your Patreon. Oh, my God. This dude right here. That went viral, by the way. You put millions of people seeing you being like fucking... He watched it and as he's watching it next to me, he goes, oh, fuck.

I was like, Oh, like each time he got, he got hit. I was just, I was just dark, dark, dark. I was like, Whoa, I'm in an ax throwing competition. I love you. We, so every year. And for those of you guys who don't know, every year we have a, I don't know how this fucking know. You fucking have told them.

I don't know how this tradition started, but it started like two or three years ago, three years ago, maybe four. No, we've been doing this pretty much the whole time. Really? Yeah. Not like, it used to be more like. Family. Yeah, we had a family tree. We would have multiple trees and we would do different things for all of them as a family. Right. And what, yeah, what really started was you don't like family trees. You like pretty trees. Yeah.

I like family trees. Right. You know what I mean? I like an aesthetic. So you were finally like, why don't you just make your own little tree? And I was like, my tree will be cooler than yours, which it was. You know what I'm saying? And that's how competition started. So everybody gets to vote. So if you guys don't follow us on TikTok, make sure you follow us on TikTok because you will get to see the trees. You'll get to vote and then we'll announce a winner. And you fucking bunny lovers and you, I call y'all little bunny believers. Oh,

You little bunny believers. Y'all better be unbiased for once, okay? Because I'm a big fan of this motherfucker too. You know what I'm saying? But...

Hold on, though. You won last year. You've got a fan base so loyal, they're against me. No, you won the fucking... Everybody was like, Bunny, we love you, but his old school tree really fucking... It was nostalgic. That's what they said. That's what I do. It's the fucking Christmas story tree. It's all right. Well, you better bring your motherfucking egg. The only problem is I'm a one-trick pony. I don't know what I'm going to do this year. I do the nostalgia tree. Well, you've got five days to think about it.

We're not doing the competition in five days, are we? Baby, I have to have those trees up before Thanksgiving dinner. No. Yes, sir. This is not fair. We should put your little make everybody happy tree that you decorate in a color scheme up.

That looks like fucking one from a JCPenney catalog. Are you trying to tell me how to run my Christmas tree? Whoa, I'm telling you how we should run the Christmas. Yes, because I'm a participant. I think I should have a vote. Yeah, 100%. I think this is a democracy. I love when he gets sassy. He goes, yes. All right, well, we'll circle back to that. But what's Jelly's favorite memory with Bunny? Favorite memory with Bunny.

I don't know. I mean, we got another 20 years at least of making them. Right? I feel like we have so many moments. It's hard to just narrow in on one. Yeah, I mean, I could give you five a year from the first year we got together, maybe. Oh, we don't got it. No, I'm saying that'd probably be the easiest way for me to do it and feel like I was quantifying it, right? Oh. Because I've got so many just good memories. I've seen them...

It's funny, I have memories of us from either really big moments in our lives, like awards or album releases or vacations or anniversaries. I could tell you a recent...

that I loved with you is when we just had to literally travel to Utah by ourselves. We had to go handle some business out there. We had no security with us. We had no people to help us with our bags. Like, we were old jelly and bunny. Yeah, it was back to the struggling days. It was really cool. And it was... Dude, there was a moment where...

We pull up to this hotel. It wasn't exactly like what we thought it was going to be. It was like a ramped up Motel 6. It was a trap. Let's just be honest. It was a shit can of a hotel. They had us park in the very back. Our room was as farthest away from the car as possible, as you could think. The Escalade that we had rented, the fucking door in the back wouldn't lift. So we're yanking our suitcases through. And for whatever reason, there's something in the car triggered where as soon as you turn it off, it goes ding-dong.

It doesn't stop.

At maximum volume while you walk away from the car after you close the doors. It might have just went all night for all we know. Yeah. It was crazy. So we're yanking our suitcases out of the back. That sound's going off. It's freezing outside. Freezing. Fucking, we already don't really. It's misty. It's a pad. It's just terrible. And Jay loses the, or I lost the room key. Jay loses the car keys. Like we had a moment where everything was so frantic. And then we just kind of looked at each other and just started laughing. Oh, we cried.

You were hurt? No, I wasn't hurt yet. You weren't hurt yet? I hurt myself the next day. That day, next day. Yep. Doing your Backstreet Boy dance. Oh, God. But yeah, that was like a sweet moment for us because it kind of just reminded us of like, yeah, this was us. For sure. It was also cool because just with the way life has worked out for us the last three years and my schedule and the pace and like having a tour. And I think what people don't get about my schedule right now is I wake up in the morning with anxiety.

We watched that movie Long Shot the other night. Did you ever watch that, Mimi? You got a microphone on you. You should have one. But have you seen it, Jason? It's an old Seth Rogen movie, right? Him and who was the girl you knew?

Fuck, I forget who it was. She's a big actor. Charlize Theron. Yeah. And she's like a political figure that's fixing to be the next president. And they get in the car and she wakes straight up and when she walks out of the bedroom, the dude's there and he's like, hey, you got a nine o'clock with this, a 9-12 call, a 9-27 call. And there's like a whole two-minute montage of them just driving and him just giving her this schedule. And that's my life right now. Literally. You know, like from the moment I wake up till I go to sleep, every single day, every city,

I walk out of my bunk alley on the bus and there's a dude there. Yeah. You got two o'clock, two thirty. I wake up in Nashville. Hey, you got this, this. And there's a dude just sitting there waiting to go do all this stuff. And it sounds bougie, but it's just part of the business. Yeah. I mean, I don't think that's bougie. You're working hard. So very. This was the first time in that that we went to a place that didn't require your manager.

Or your makeup lady or my manager or my security or you know what I mean? Like we always have. We have our own entourages. Yeah, for sure. There's always a group of people around us based on what we do for work. You know that we really and it was really cool. Reminded me of like the old, old, old days. Yeah, we have. And I've been fiending for that because I kept we kept trying to go to the mountains that one week that I thought I was going to have a week off and even booked a room and didn't get to make it. Yeah.

Because I was like, it's just important for me and you to just go do something for us. Memory wise, I have all these good memories of like big moments, but little moments too. When we lived in that little condo.

And that bar was next door and we'd go in there and shoot basketball in the little arcade. They had one of them basketball arcade games. Just little stuff like that. Just spending time with just us has always been my favorite memory of us. Yeah. I love you. I think all kids... I love that... I bet people wouldn't expect that. That both of our favorite memories of us are moments of just us. It's not like the award show. It's not like...

These big they're they're great, but they're not my favorite memories of us. There's something you know what I mean? My favorite memories that were there with each other in those moments. Yeah. My favorite memories of us is when it's just us. Yeah. When we can just reconnect, like even going to eat fucking Hawaiian food in Utah by ourselves is a blast. Getting chased by a cop that we thought was pulling us over. You thought was pulling us over. I was confused why you're following us. He was a really nice cop, though. He was. He was actually a fan.

Yeah, he was actually, he was going through. He was making sure he seen it right. He was going through a breakup and was listening to Save Me when I drove by. And he was like, all I saw was a cop do this, right? So we're driving by and I'm like, that cop is pissed. I'm like, what, were we speeding? Like what? And Jay's like, I don't know. And Jay's got, you know, weed in the car. I don't know the Utah weed laws. Yeah, so we were stressing. I mean, this dude followed us for a good minute, dude. Yeah.

We pulled in the driveway of this place to eat, and we fucking just hightailed it in before he could get behind us. And then Jay saw him pull in and went out there. And Jay comes in two minutes later. He's like, hey, can you take a picture for us? He was actually really cool, man. He's a really good guy. Yeah, he was super sweet. He had our back, too. Made me feel a little more comfortable, too. I was like, yo, I'm staying at this fucking shit can over here. Swing by sometime, make sure I'm okay. Yeah, absolutely. Fuck, we're in the trap. So, asking from Antioch.

How old were you when you watched your first Grammy Award on TV? Oh, what a great question. Dude, I was probably, I probably watched my first one at an age I wouldn't remember.

To be honest, probably that early. Because those pop culture events were like stuff that would set our whole family down. That was a family event. Because we didn't do a lot of TV, believe it or not. We were more radio people, even though we had a TV. But when we did do TV, we all did TV. Yeah. It was like a thing. Like, I vividly remember us all watching TV together. Absolutely, yeah. So, yeah, probably 12 or 13 is when I remember us all really sitting around. But I'm sure we did it at 8, 9, 7. You know, I'm sure I did it my whole life. Yeah. I mean, it's just the Grammys are fucking iconic. Yeah.

What's your favorite prison meal you cooked on the inside? I know this is the cliche-est one, but it's always been just ghetto dough. Just taking the, you know, making the crackers with the cheese and the Fritos and the hot Flamin' Cheetos and the noodles and then slicing them down and putting some peppers in there and getting the jalapeno pepper cheese spread and the crackers and

It was awesome. Now, my favorite little fat snack...

Was the moon pie one, right? Dude, I made you a moon pie one. I got drunk and made you a moon pie. Oh yeah, we did that. We had a whole YouTube where we did prison food hacks. So you can go on my YouTube Bunny XO and watch that. It's from years ago, but it's fucking hilarious. We were talking about this the other day. Men struggle. This is how men struggle to stay best friends for so long. We are like me and you. We are so much alike, but yet so different. Right. I do not like making, I do not, I only did it for that thing for your thing. Right. And I don't even think I'd eat it.

I hate eating it. I don't like being a part of it. Everything I did in jail, I left in jail. I don't play spades. I don't play dominoes. I don't play poker. Anything I did in jail, I don't do out here. It's my rule.

It's just bad. He wouldn't even watch jail shows up until recently. I still won't watch jail shows. I'll watch a little First 48. Right, which is crazy because I used to be an avid First 48 watcher whenever we first got together and he would get like, turn this off. It's such a dark energy. I've been around it. Yeah. But, you know, it's like, fuck, dude. But Struggle, on the other hand,

Once a week, we'll throw a little jail party. And he'll go make a bunch of jail snacks at his house. At his fucking $2 million house. And he'll be in there fucking making little jail snacks and sending me videos drunk like, you remember these? And I'm like, no, motherfucker, I don't. My favorite little fat snack was when I'd take the moon pie and the Snickers and heat it up with the grandma cookies. I might fuck with one of those for real. Sugar fucking overload.

Yeah, they were bomb, though. They were pretty fucking rich. After the Grammys, what are your next goals for you and for the both of you guys? Congratulations on the Grammy nomination. No one deserves them more than you. You guys are such an inspirational couple to us all. Television. Yeah. Yeah, I got a... I'm working with a company to do something big for TV, like a scripted show. Like kind of our white trash version of...

or eastbound and down kind of, eastbound and down meets shameless kind of thing. So that's my dream is to get into television. But music always is my soul. I just want to keep putting out projects. You know, the scariest thing about being where we are right now, mama, and this is answering this person too, is that

I think now I feel a new pressure of like, I don't want this to be a flash in the pan. Right. I don't want this to be a really cool award acceptance speech that everybody listened to for a day and then lost track and I didn't have the music to back it up. I want to continue to put out records that move people. Right. I don't think that you could ever be a flash in the pan, baby, because this is 15, 20 years in the making. Yeah, for sure. But we're still only as good as our last song.

I love that. And I think that I'm working with my husband on trying to have a little allow, allow himself to be in the moment and to be proud of himself. And because you deserve that and you've worked so hard. Um, dude, the other day on stage, mama, we were in rehearsal and somebody walked up to one. I was, I was talking to why known and somebody said what I said to her, they reaffirmed. I was like, man, you look incredible. Cause she's really sharp and she's very fluid. Um,

And that's why I hate that thing happening on TV, because that's the opposite of who Wynonna was and is, you know? But she said, you know, I'm just, I'm learning to take care of myself. And man, that just like, oh man, I felt that in like, like,

I don't know. I told her, I was like, I don't know if you know this or not, but God wanted you. God knew I needed to hear that. You know what I mean? She was like, I'm learning to take care of myself. And that was really, really cool. And sometimes you have to learn how to take care of yourself. For sure. We're not taught that as children, especially from the generation of our parents. You want to answer a couple more questions or are you over it? Because I see you looking at your phone. No, no, no. I'm actually really good. I was just making sure I had my phone. Because I'm finna get rid of it.

So this is the week. You're putting the what? Get rid of the phone. Oh, are you going to do it? I'm going phone. It's like I did the first half. Everybody always thinks that you're lying whenever you say you're going to get rid of your phone. And like, I guess we could talk. We could dive into that because whenever him and I first got together, he didn't have a phone for six months.

He used a fucking flip phone. Nobody could get a hold of him. They had to get a hold of him. That's why all the homies, if they can't get a hold of J now, they hit me because of that past time. I've done it a few times. I went phone-less the first four, three, four months of this year. I want to do it for another three or four months. I just don't like the pressure of the phone. It's a lot. Well, I could only imagine having to deal with the amount of people that are on your line. I couldn't do it. There's no way. I cannot, in a healthy way for myself...

I maintain and manage all these relationships. Yeah. I just can't. Because you got to think of every phase of your life that you go through and you meet all these people and pick up all these eclectic characters along the way and all the shit that I've been through. And then all of these people all at one time want your time.

It's just overwhelming. Everybody wants something. I talked about that on, I think, the last podcast where it's the one thing about getting as big as we have gotten that hurts my heart a little bit because it's like people, like even the day of the CMAs, I had people, friends of ours, hitting us. Hey, can you get us into the Opry? And it's just like, dude, like, let us have a moment without asking for something. Yeah, for sure. You know, I just can't, you know. Yeah.

And I just, I want to be present. And that phone takes away from my presence. Yeah. And the comments are starting to get unhealthy for me because we're starting to cross into pop culture so much. Yeah. That even though our people rally for us and all the comments are love, every fifth one will still be somebody that'll just say something dark. Yeah. And I just don't even like letting that energy into my life. Yeah, you can't because it manifests and...

But I love it don't happen much, though, because, boy, you got the bunny believers. And I got the motherfuckers around with me, boy. They don't let that shit slide very often on me. No, dude, y'all write for us. And sometimes I'll go to clap back, and then I see all you motherfuckers have clapped back. And I feel bad for them. I'm like, they got it. I feel bad for the hater. I'm like, damn, man. No, they deserve it. You should tell them he's off. No, they fucking deserve it. All right, last question. If there was one life lesson you could teach your kids, what would it be? Um...

There's an old famous quote that says, just because it can be counted doesn't mean it counts. And I think that's probably the biggest lesson I want to teach my children is that something I have learned in all of this is that you can have everything going right for you. But what you really want is love.

and you measure look a human's worth by how much they have the ability to love yeah so i just want my children to love yeah everybody for you know look at it look at every story from every side uh what's the what are they teaching us in therapy be curious you know if you don't understand something or don't like somebody be curious just try to imagine why they're like that i think that's probably one of the gifts i have that i think i'm the best at

Because I really do have the ability to look at something and go, I could see why. Some things in life bother me because you're like, I just don't fucking understand why. But most of the time I can look at stuff and go, I could see it's a really fucked up rationale they're using there. But I could see why they feel that way. I think another, just to add on to that question, is also what do our kids teach us? Because I have learned...

I never wanted to be a fucking parent. That was not in my cards. I didn't want to do it. And here we are. Yeah, fuck, I still don't. And here we are. And I feel like Bailey has taught some of the really most... She has calmed me and softened me and made me way more patient than I have ever been with anybody else in my life. You know what I thought about, though? I'm going to challenge you on this. Because I had this thought the other day about myself. Do you think...

That it's age that's made us this patient, right? Or trials and tribulations? Or do you think that this is who we always were and that God just finally softened us, put us in a soft enough situation to be who we were? I think it's a little bit of both. Because I thought about that. It's like with where we are in our lives right now, we could be any person we wanted to be. Like at a time we could be out being the wildest we could have ever been. We choose not to be.

at a time where we could be doing just, you know, like we, we have access to so many things that if we'd had access to even four or five years ago, we'd have jumped on probably. But that's why. And I feel like God didn't give us what we wanted at that time so badly because he knew we would mishandle it. And I feel like,

You can't be this wise young because you won't live. Right. You know? So it's like, I feel like we had to fucking make mistakes. We had to be assholes. We had to fucking hurt people. We had to be hurt, you know, just to get to this moment. And I feel like it's a little bit of age and I feel like it's also who we were. It's just, we, that is what molded us. I sure hope, I hope Kev on stage fucking puts an organ behind you saying that like he did me fucking. Yeah.

Come on, Kev, on stage. Let's go, baby. Preach! Well, I'm hungry, Daddy, and I'm so happy that you came by the podcast. That's it? How long we been doing this? How long we been doing this? I refuse to be shorted. Oh, shit. We're good. Damn. How long you normally do these things? About an hour, an hour and a half now. Damn. How long did Dempsey get?

She got one hour. Good. Yeah. Fuck you, dips. No, I'm joking. I love dips. Let's eat some food and let's fucking kiss because you've been sitting over there looking so cute. I was thinking the same thing about you with your little blow down hat brim like you're fucking going to go rob a gas station. Because I don't have any fucking

makeup on right now. So I'm like, Haley was off today. You look like you showed up to your podcast to do a drug deal. This is the one time all season I've been dressed to the nines fucking everything. And then the two last podcasts of the season, I'm like, fuck it. You guys get sweats and a hat. I don't care. And the best part was when Mimi was doing your hair, she didn't do the top at first. She's like, you're wearing a hat. She was like, but still.

I was like, I don't want to be all lumpy. It ticked my tism. I didn't want to be all lumpy. I love you. I love you, baby. Thank you for coming on the podcast. Congratulations on another incredible season of the Dumb Blind Podcast. Thank you so much. Keep racking them up. And by the way, next time you guys see us, after the podcast with Dempstrops, we will be in a new studio. So we're going to have a new set and everything. So stay tuned for that. You'll have a traveling set too, though. You got a lot of big pods on the West Coast waiting on you. Yep, yep, yep.

Bigger guest, y'all. Next season is bigger guest. Yeah. Bigger podcast. Bigger guest. More stories. Y'all are in for a treat. I've got a little glimpse at some of the people coming on next. It's going to be big. I love it. I'm super excited. And I love you. Let's go eat. I love you. Bye. All right. Thank you guys so much for tuning in to another episode. See you next week. What's up, you beautiful bitches?