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Ask, Tell, Confess: Not Your Role Model

2024/9/13
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Let's talk about our favorite fall scents. I love marshmallows. I love the smell of s'mores. I love the smell of dark chocolate. I love the smell of rain on a dreary autumn night. Not a pumpkin spice latte fan, though. Sorry, ladies. But you want to know what's not on this list? B.O., let's face it.

Summer isn't the only time we get body odor. We can get just as smelly under our favorite fall sweaters. That's why I'm excited to tell you about Lume's whole body deodorant for pits, privates, and beyond. As a special offer, new customers get 15% off all Lume products with our exclusive code. Use code BUNNIEXO, B-U-N-N-I-E-X-O, baby, at LumeDeodorant.com. That's L-U-M-E-D-E-R-O-M-E.

O-D-O-R-A-N-T dot com. You guys already know I've been preaching to you for months now. I absolutely love Lume products and now that I'm on tour under pressure 24-7, what do I got with me? A whole case full of Lume. You bet your buttons. Lume's starter pack is perfect for new customers. It comes with a solid stick deodorant,

Cream tube deodorant, two free products of your choice like mini body wash and deodorant wipes and free shipping. As a special offer for listeners, new customers get 15% off all Lumi products with our exclusive code. And if you combine the 15% off with the already discounted starter pack, that equals over 40% off their starter pack.

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Hey guys, I need to ask you a question. I want to know why in the hell are you not on Patreon? I don't think you guys even realize how much content we have on Patreon. Let me break it down for you. We have the BunnyXO show. We have Meet the D-Fords. We have Popaganda. We have more shows that we're adding every day.

And not to mention, we have the visuals of the podcast. Not only that, we have four tiers that caters to everybody's budget and everybody gets the podcast. There's no more excuses. Head over to www.patreon.com backslash dumb blonde podcast and sign up. Stop missing out. We have built a huge community over there, guys. I'm talking about

hundreds of thousands of people over there. We even have live chats, live chats that I actually am talking in every single night. Last but not least, we give away gifts every fricking month. I'm talking like signed stuff from Jay and I, lives. You just never know what kind of surprise you're gonna get. It's like a Cracker Jack box. I love the community that we've built over there at Patreon. If you are already a Patreon member,

I freaking love you, dude. Thank you so much. You guys are my babies for life, my writers. If I could, I would literally make out with each and every one of you. I love you guys so much. And that's a lot of kisses, actually. Gotta go, bye.

Hello, friends. Welcome back to another Ask, Tell, Confess.

That's the whistle. It gets me every time. Mimi is not sick this week, guys. I'm so happy to have my friend back. Tasha and Haley are fucking snooze fest to try to do a freaking thing with man. I feel like you and I get each other. Like I love them. And Tasha will loosen up to us. She gets used to it. Cause Tasha acts just like me, but I just feel like you and I just have a, we vibe. Yeah. We vibe. And we've been doing this for so long. So long. Do you remember when you would not get on the mic? No, I wouldn't. I hated it. Yeah. And now you're just like, come on.

let's do it i'm like all right cool let's do it we're on tour babies we are on day two they're about to be well it'll be day three tomorrow i mean the show three show three we've been out for like what three or four or five days now yeah it's been a thing i feel like yeah i feel like last tour was a lot easier the first week yeah i feel like it well maybe

because our adrenaline was going because we didn't know what to expect with such a different aspect yeah this we knew what to expect but then in the same sense we didn't it's all different

You motherfuckers have been assholes with the bunnies backstage pass. I'm just going to say that. Like I am so like, I feel like a mother who is disappointed in her children right now because I just don't understand. Like I love all of you and I'd say this with love to you guys, but stop being fucking dickheads, man. Like slipping off wristbands and giving them to other people. Like I don't think you guys realize like I'm really pouring my energy out and making sure. And this is something that nobody does. No,

No. Nobody on Patreon does this stuff, you know? And I just try to do things that are different and things that are done out of love. But you motherfuckers are making it hard. And you know, it's like, it's,

it's not one person ruining it for all. It is like a handful of people who are ruining it for like a mass amount of people. And it's hard because we don't want to punish all the, like the amazing patrons that we just love. I mean, you guys are our favorite humans. That's why we went so out of our way to do this for you.

But like the amount of people that have just been complaining, like it's just I don't think you guys understand when we first did this and my husband actually said it best. He said, Bunny, you underestimate everything. And I was like, why you got to call me out like that? Because I genuinely thought that in every city I was just going to see 30 or 40 people. That's why I didn't mind if they brought their plus ones, because I was just like, oh, 60 person meet and greet. I can do this. No problem.

There's four and 500 of you at certain shows with your plus ones. So there's, that's 200 plus another 200. And I don't think you guys realize like, I love you motherfuckers to the moon and back. But you, my main priority is my Patreon numbers. Your plus ones are not sub to me. So I don't owe them anything.

Nor do I care if you're upset about them not being able to come because you, the person who subs to me, is my main priority. And I would rather have that extra five minutes to look you in your eyes, shake your hands, and talk to you than have to just move everybody along and it not be personal. The reason we made that decision was because...

I hope you guys realize that you bringing a plus one takes that time and energy from someone who is just like you, who is another patron. Yeah. So it's not fair at the end for the last 20 people for it to be just like,

Yeah, and I just got to say, I'm sorry. I did not realize so many of you guys were going to sign up. I did not think it was going to be this huge. Tasha tells me all the time, she's like, you don't realize what's going on here. And I'm like, I really don't. Like, I'm so just in my little bubble. I just think like, oh, you know, 30 people are going to show up. It's not going to be a big deal. And when she handed me that list, I was like, Mimi, I can't do this. One, the venue, the venues have been giving us... You guys' venues have not been...

It's been a thing with the venue. Okay, my dog's behind me. Sorry, I got scared. The mom kicked in. These venues have not been accommodating. And, you know, we're still getting used to the times. We're not going to do it later because we don't want you guys to miss Alexandra Kay. We absolutely love her. So I feel bad that we're doing it in the middle of her show. Well, no, it actually isn't. We are in between set changes. Yeah. And because it did grow to that, some people were missing out a little bit because...

having those plus ones, it ran over our time, you know? So we don't want you guys to miss anything. That's why we chose certain times. But I just, I'm begging you guys, like, please, for the love of all things, holy, just,

Be fucking normal, man. Yeah. I'm doing this for you guys because I love you and I want to squeeze you and I want to just be in you guys's energy. I'm hugging everybody and I'm not wearing fucking gloves at this shit. So you've come a long way. Work with me here, people. OK, because we know last meet and greets, I was gloved up and had long sleeves on and everything. And this I'm raw dogging it, you know, and I just for you guys. Yeah. I just want you guys to be sweet.

And we are going to cap some of them, the larger ones that we do have to cap. There's just no way, you know, because more and more people are like, well, I'll just buy for my plus one, which we totally get. But if we're already maxed out,

We can't go all night. Yeah, we can't. You guys would miss Jay's show. Yeah, my husband will be like, bitch, you're getting in the way of my business now. Yeah, exactly. And I listen, if daddy ain't happy, ain't nobody happy. So we're just going to go on from there. Being an adult has its high points. Like you can eat ice cream for dinner anytime. Or if you want to stay up all night, you can. But it's not always fun. You also have to do your taxes and figure out what's for dinner every freaking night of the week.

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But anyways, I think you guys are finally getting the hang of Ask, Tell, Confess, which makes me so happy because we had so many good ones this week. We were having a hard time choosing. No, it was crazy. So I picked three and Mimi picked three and we'll just go from there. So go ahead and start with your first one. All right. My first one. This one says, and this is from Anonymous. They don't even want to give their name. Better be juicy. Starts out with, he faked his death.

Oh, hell. Is this Brooke? No, I'm just kidding. Didn't she do like a 12-part series on somebody who did something like that or faked his mom's death or something? Hello, you guys. Love you all so much. So here's my story. Long story short, I met this guy on Tinder after a few months of talking. You know what? It's always Tinder. It's always Tinder, man. You got to go to something else other than Tinder. Go to Bumble. Yeah. Do we like Bumble? I don't know. What do we think? What's your favorite? Yeah.

Hinge? Corey's over there. He said hinge. So after a few months of talking, we met up and yes, we did the dirty. Then it was obvious that... A few months off Tinder? Damn. It was all he wanted. So I left and that was that. A month later, we started talking again. He reached out to me. I tell him I don't want anything. I saw his true colors. He pulls the suicide threat.

Okay. Red flags. Yeah. These started at Tinder. I had to block that dude. You know, where's the guy with the big red flag? Yeah. Um, I love that guy. And next morning I get a message from him saying that it was his sister and that he had died that morning.

It was a lie and blocked him. Two months later, I get a TikTok follow request saying that I messaged him on TikTok as a joke saying, oh my God, you're back from the dead. He said, I have cancer and I don't have a long time. Oh my gosh, girl. Listen, you were right the first time. The minute you just let him hit and then you fucking left and never talked to him again was crazy.

God's divine intervention. Could you imagine getting in a relationship that would have ended up like the girl, the who did I marry? Yeah. Series. The 60 part. What's her name? I forget her name. Oh, I forgot. I know. I forget her name. It would have ended up like that. He would have ended up being,

This crazy, who did I marry? That is so weird. I just don't understand. Like I, I, my heart goes out to anybody who has to date these days. I say it all the time. You and I always say that we could never date in this era. Yeah. All right. Moving on. This is Mia. She's asking, how do each of you wind down after a show? I lay on my couch and watch reality TV after work.

It's a lot. You know, after a show, I think I shower immediately. I shower. I take all my makeup off. I fucking get all the hairspray out of my hair and I just soak in my serums. And if I have podcasts, I just lay there and kind of like study for the podcast or we'll eat food or I don't know. We just kind of... I play my Nintendo Switch. Yeah, we just all kind of vibe out. Yeah, we do something that like helps us just calm down because like...

It's a lot of energy. You're putting out a lot of energy and you're around a lot of energy that you're soaking in. People don't realize like backstage, there's like 50 plus people running around, maybe 60 people running around that you have to deal with on a daily basis. Yeah, a lot.

A lot of fucking people, a lot of moving parts. Yes. A lot of people that you have to meet, like in every city there's, you know, like this last show that I have a girl who has followed me for 11 years, you know, and I needed to see her and actually squeeze her and take a picture with her because, you know, this, this girl has supported me forever since before I was even,

bunny XO. You know, I love her little stories of like, when you guys were playing like the catalyst or something in Santa Cruz. Yeah. Yeah. The dad said she wanted to come and he wouldn't let her drive there. Yeah. No, just so cute. And then I got to meet vampy Boko Hyde. I love him. What a sweet boy. Sweet. He's actually, his dad's really sweet too. We called him vampy and grampy.

If you guys want to check out a hot little vampire dude on TikTok, his name is Boka Wahide. B-O-K-U-W-A. I don't know how to spell it. Yeah, put it on the screen. Yeah, Boka Wahide. He's a sweetheart. He's actually taller than I thought, and I'm trying to hook him and Tasha up. I saw it last night. Yeah. I saw it happening. I know, me too. Tasha was like, she came up to me, she goes, Liss. I was like, what? She goes, he's cute. And Tasha's world, that's hooked me up. It's awesome.

So I was like, all right. Bunny is very, she has no filter. So if that person is in front of her, she will just be like, slip it in her vagina. There is no foreplay. Listen, I hate sexual tension. If you guys are going to fuck, let's just fucking do it. You know, like right then and there, get it up, get it in, get it on, get it out. We've only been together for two days on this tour and I've heard her offer up her vagina to multiple people.

So poor Tosh. Listen, you throw enough ideas up against the wall. One of them is bound to stick. So I feel the same way with wieners, you know, funny. And it's all people that Tasha has told me she thinks hot. So it's not like I'm just offering up her vagina. I even told Jaime, I was like, if you didn't have a hot girlfriend, I would totally let you break Tasha in.

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Let's talk about our favorite fall scents. I love marshmallows. I love the smell of s'mores. I love the smell of dark chocolate. I love the smell of rain on a dreary autumn night. Not a pumpkin spice latte fan, though. Sorry, ladies. But you want to know what's not on this list? B.O., let's face it.

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O-D-O-R-A-N-T dot com. You guys already know I've been preaching to you for months now. I absolutely love Lume products and now that I'm on tour under pressure 24-7, what do I got with me? A whole case full of Lume. You bet your buttons. Lume's starter pack is perfect for new customers. It comes with a solid stick deodorant,

Cream tube deodorant, two free products of your choice like mini body wash and deodorant wipes and free shipping. As a special offer for listeners, new customers get 15% off all Lumi products with our exclusive code. And if you combine the 15% off with the already discounted starter pack, that equals over 40% off their starter pack.

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All right, Jess, this kind of goes in play with what we were just talking about. Jess said, I went to Jelly's concert last night in Sacramento and he is such a badass. Does seeing your man on stage get you super horny or are you immune to it? Wait, say that again. I was reading my next question and not paying attention. Oh my gosh. All right. So Jess came to the concert last night in Sacramento. Yeah. Your husband is such a badass. Does seeing your man on stage get you super horny or are you immune to him being a rock star? Oh, I,

I love my husband and I think he's a fucking gangster and he's just so sexy to me no matter what. So he's like how he is on stage is how he is in real life. A thousand percent. Yeah. So it's to me, I'm just watching my husband be my husband, you know? And it's like, that was the main thing that attracted me to Jay in the first place was that he's just such a boss, you know? I saw your husband's ass on stage last night. Oh, he got excited if his crack came out. Oh no. His like pack went out and the guy helping him just lifted his shirt.

Oh, those big. I got to see the cheeks. I love it on video. Listen, I love my husband's ass cheeks. Did he know his cheeks were hanging out? I don't think so. Okay. I thought the guy was going to pull his pants up for him. I didn't know he was searching for a pack. So all of us standing sides at Jacoby was right there. We just locked eyes with his booty. It

It was great. Listen, my husband's got that fucking donk, all right? That shit is, listen, when he's naked and he's walking, I'm just like, all I look at is just these fucking cheeks just rumbling. It's like two sheep fighting under a white blanket because he's just got these, he is so fucking pale, dude, but his cheeks are just so plump. Like, I love them. I will, like I said, I've said many a times, I will wear his ass like headphones. Yes. I would just, let me shove my head in his butthole. Yeah.

We have polar opposites. We have complete polar opposites. Let me just fucking live in my husband's crack and I am just excited about life. That's great. All right. Hot and steamy over here. Look at her. I'm just so excited. Hot and steamy. Ask, I have to know, Bunny, Chachi's popcorn feet, love it or hate it? What does that mean? Frito feet.

What do they smell like? Oh, like what did they smell like? Oh, I love Tachi's feet. They're just like little fricking potatoes with toenails. Yep. I just love it. They're just beefy and meaty. You hear that? I mean, he's right here snoring. I mean, you can see him. He's literally right here. I don't know if you can see him on screen, but he is right here. Dude.

You got the paws? No. Let me tell you something. He's the best dog in the world, but this motherfucker is too comfortable. Everywhere he goes, he is fucking sawing logs. He came out in the meet and greet last night, guys, and he was the hit of the show. Yeah, they were more excited to see him than us. Someone wore a Chachi shirt. I know. And they gave us a great idea. We're going to be putting Chachi merch on the website. I think everyone is going to love Chachi merch. Yeah. For sure. No, I love everything about my son. That is my thing.

I gave birth to him. Yes. Okay. He came out of my fricking womb. That is my son right there. So I love everything about him. Uh, so wait, did your, you just went right. Yep. Um, okay. So ATM's mom wants to know if all of our menstrual cycles are linked now that we're going to be in such close quarters, uh,

I feel like they were linked for a while there, right? And then I feel like now we're all kind of like on our own off a little bit. I'm wondering if it's going to sink back up. We are going to be in such close quarters for so long. I feel like we might get into sync again. Mine is pretty powerful. Mine will not change for anybody. You make mine start. Yeah. My period will not change for a soul. Now let's talk about on the tour bus though. How are we going to do this?

Oh, bro, it's going to be disgusting because you can't shit on the bus and you can't fucking, you're not supposed, I've been throwing toilet paper down the bus. You did not. I did. I'm going to get yelled at by Elmer pretty soon. Yeah. Yeah. We went through this last time. I know, but I just, it's habit. So fun fact, you can't put toilet paper down, you gotta throw them in the trash can. Yeah.

um and we didn't know that for the first month last year and we all toilet papered yeah and it got clogged yeah and elmo was like i love you all but don't fucking put toilet paper down yeah i'm about to get that talk too because i realize my toilet's fucking up already yeah yeah

I'm sorry, Elmo. I think Haley's on hers right now too. And she, the bathrooms are so small and for being a bigger person, it is very hard. I've talked about this on the podcast before that changing a tampon on an airplane is the worst experience of your life. This is very similar. You're in close quarters and you have to somehow shove a tampon in there and out. It's bad.

Not me. I just wear a diaper. You do. I do. I am not putting tampons up this hoo-ha. There's no way. Maybe I got to switch to diapers. I'm telling you, diapers are, you are going to feel so free. And like, dude, you can bleed in them. And like, I use one diaper a day. Whereas before I used to use like fucking six tampons a day because I'm so heavy. Yeah. I use one diaper a day. Those black ones? Yeah. Tasha, she was like, I'm never wearing a diaper, bitch. And she wears them all the time now in her period. Shit. Yeah.

I might be switching. You have to, man. You guys know I preach these diapers and they're not, they're black. Like they look like briefs. True. Yeah. All right. This one's kind of a long one. Is this my third one? This is my third one. Okay. Last one. Alva says,

Mine will be a mixture of ask and tell. First, my question is, are you and jelly twin flames? You speak openly about your relationship and your healing journeys. And since hearing your stories and learning on my own healing journey that I'm a twin flame, I've always felt you two were. I also want to add that I never in my love life, in my life, loved, respected, and looked up to anyone. I didn't know personally the way that I do not only you and jelly, but your entire soul tribe, my soul tribe. I love them so much.

I feel, I feel I connect with you as far as our past with unhealed, unhealthy parents. My bio mom not only did drugs while pregnant with me and left me a lifetime of medical issues. Oh, I fucking hate that. She said, I have a backwards heart and have died nine times. Holy shit. I didn't even knew fucking fear unlocked, bro.

I didn't know your fucking heart could be backwards. Corey's over there. Corey said, that's crazy. But she also sold me to her dealer for drugs for him to have his way with me. Oh my God. Not to mention the abusive relationships I saw her in. That is so terrible. So sad. Yeah, that's rough. I'm sorry that you went through all that and I'm not here to compare trauma, but you have definitely been through some shit girl. And I'm grateful you're so strong. I'm grateful that you're,

part of the Patreon and able to share your story like that. That's amazing. Um, as far as Jay and I being twin flames, absolutely. We've had so many psychics tell us that we're twin flames and soulmates, which makes it pretty rare because you're either one or the other. And I do understand that because in the, the, I always tell everybody, you know, the first three years of our relationship was fucking hell, dude. He was a dick. I was a fucking, just a lunatic that came in fresh out of an abusive relationship. And, you know, just, um,

I didn't, I was healing, dude. I was coming off drugs. Like there was, it was wild. It was really wild. When I say that we were like two trains that collided, dude, we were literally two trains that collided and became like one train together. And it was a process. And that was our twin flame process.

Um, moment because somebody asked me the other day, they said, are you the runner? And I was like, we both are. Jay and I are both runners. So they, they always say that there's one solid person in the relationship who chases and then one that runs not in this fucking relationship. We are both runners. Yeah. So I'm out at the first part of something and Jay's out too. And you know, we've both had to learn to,

stand and face any sort of bullshit that we've had to go through. And, you know, relationships are not fucking easy. And your first three years were like, you're learning. Yeah. I mean, we're still learning, dude. We're eight years in and there's still weird shit that happens. We just got in a fucking huge fight a couple of weeks ago and we don't fight, you know, like we really don't fight, but you know, I did something fucking stupid and it was well-deserved that fricking I got yelled at.

But you know, I love my husband and relationships take work. Whether you're twin flames, whether you're soulmates, you have to really want to wake up and be with that human every fucking day. You have to choose that. You have to choose every day. You're not always going to like the motherfucker. Okay. Because there's sometimes that I'm like, are we going to make it, you know, or like, are, and, but the,

it's, you can't think like that. You have to literally just wake up, choose that person and know that this is where you're supposed to be. And after being with somebody for so long, you don't have that, that fucking, you know, lust feeling that you get like in the beginning of your relationship. And like, you know, like when you get the butterflies, I feel like lust is temporary. Love is forever. Literally. Yes, absolutely. And that's how I feel like with my husband is like,

you will always love that person uncontrollably, but you sometimes don't like them. Right. You know, there will be moments where you're like, fuck. Yeah. But then other times it, but even in those moments, you still love that person. Yeah. No matter what. Yeah, absolutely. And people are human. People make mistakes. And, you know, I think forgiveness is a huge thing in relationships, depending on what the situation is. And,

you know, I just, um, I think this is growth too. Absolutely. Learning to grow with that person and making those choices again, waking up every day to choose that person. Yeah. I just, I hate that people put Jay and I on a pedestal because we are not, they're putting you on a pedestal because you guys show how real it is to be in a relationship. Well, I appreciate that, but we are not role models. You should not,

Model your relationship after J and I's relationship. We are a work in progress. We are learning and you know, we are just should model their relationships over anyone. Yeah. You know, it doesn't matter who you are because no relationship is one in the same.

Yeah, absolutely. But I do appreciate how open and honest you guys are about your relationship. And that's why you guys don't put out a fake persona. And I feel like that's why you guys have been just pushed into this trajectory of like this power couple because you are a power couple who shows what it's like to actually be a couple.

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