America’s Holistic Plastic Surgeon
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What's up, babies? Welcome back to another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today we have America's holistic plastic surgeon in the house, Dr. Anthony Yoon. What's up, baby? How are you? Thank you so much for having me on the show. This will be a lot of fun. Dude, I am so stoked to have you. My husband is...

even more stoked that you're here. That's awesome. I had no idea that he was such a huge fan of yours. I didn't. You just told me this. I'm shocked. And I'm I mean, it's awesome. Yeah. I mean, I saw his when he gave his his speech, his talk at this CMAs. And I guess. Great. I mean, I'm a fan myself. It's crazy because he's like that at home. And I'll be like, who are you preaching to? I'm like, it's just me and the kid here. Like, you don't have an audience. Tone it down, Bubba. You know, so he's that's literally what you see is what you get with him.

So you are kind of like doing a podcast tour right now because you, my sweet sir, are a author. Yes. Yes, and you've written four books. Yes, so this is my fourth. This is an anti-aging book called Younger for Life that I'm super proud of, and I really appreciate that you're having me on today. Absolutely. I'm so excited to dive into what this is and stuff like that. You have three other books. One of them is called The Age Fix. Yes.

In Stitches and Playing God. Yes. So I actually wrote two memoirs about becoming a doctor and then becoming a plastic surgeon and kind of the craziness that happens, that ensues. And then I've written two anti-aging books, The Age Fix, and this is my latest one. I mean, I need all the anti-aging tips that you can give me. You look like you're 12 years old. What are you talking about? Listen, do you want to make out? Because we can't.

So, okay, I definitely want to talk about your, you know, whenever you went to medical school because one of those stories actually resonated with me and we'll talk about that in a little bit. But let's talk about how you were influenced by your father to become a doctor and take me on that journey and stuff like that as a child.

Yeah, so I basically grew up in a traditional Korean household. My parents immigrated here from Korea before I was born. And so the day literally that I was born, my dad decided I was going to be a doctor. But it's not that I was going to be any doctor. Like, that wasn't enough. Like, I was going to be either a neurosurgeon, a cardiac surgeon, you know, a transplant surgeon, one of these like high-powered surgical specialties. Yeah.

And pretty quickly as I was in medical school, I realized that this was not my personality. The day that I saw a 60 year old man stumble out of a call room in the middle of the night to attend to a trauma, I was like, I don't want to be that guy. And then even throughout all my training, I did three years of general surgery training where I trained as a general surgeon and you're working the ICUs, you're working in trauma bays. I was just honestly deathly afraid that one of my patients would die and it would be my fault.

And so it always stressed me out. And luckily, I went through all my training and nobody did. People died, but it wasn't because I didn't do something. And so I realized very quickly that that just wasn't for me. And so I ended up finding the field of plastic surgery, which really talked to me a lot. The interesting thing is I initially thought I was going to do family practice for a while. So I'm like, I don't want to be this type of surgeon. Maybe I'll do family practice and work with families and stuff.

And my dad was not approving of that at all. - Your dad was an OB-GYN, correct? - Yes. - So that's kind of why he, and he was the traditional, just this is how you're gonna do it, and I'm planning your life out. How did that make you feel as a child? Did you feel like you just didn't have a choice?

So, yeah, but I was like the middle child. So I was the dutiful middle child. You tell me to do something and I'll do it. But, you know, for him, he grew up on a rice farm in Korea with six other siblings. And he became a doctor. They put all their resources into him. And then he literally...

lifted his whole family up out of poverty and he brought half of them here to the United States where they kind of now are living the American dream and so for him all he knew was that doctor equals success right and so he didn't want his kids to be living on the streets but then his belief was either you live on the streets or you're a doctor and there's nothing in between like he didn't know he's like look it works for me it'll work yeah yeah yeah so then I thought maybe I'll maybe I'll do family practice and I told him and he was really unhappy with that

And one night as I was visiting my parents after I told him I was gonna do and he was really unhappy. And he was just unhappy because he didn't feel like you were like being an overachiever or he felt like you were kind of slacking off? It wasn't enough. It wasn't enough to be proud of him, you know, my son. Like, you know, we always want in our children more than what we have, you know. And for him, he looked at that was less than what he had.

That's going to be kind of a heavy cross to bear for you because you're like, damn, Dad, I just want to do what I want to do. I mean, I think that is. But, you know, what happened is I'm at home, I'm visiting for a night, and I'm in my twin bed that I grew up in, you know, when I was a kid. And 2 in the morning, the door opens up, and my dad tells me, move over.

so here i go i scoot over and the two of us two adult males are lying in my twin bed looking at the ceiling and he goes tony if you want to be a family practice doctor you can he goes you will never pay off your loans you're going to be poor for the rest of your life you're going to be seeing 50 patients a day but if you want to do that then that is fine

And then shortly thereafter, after he gave me his blessing, I ended up finding the field of plastic surgery and absolutely loved it. Well, plastic surgery holds a spot dear to your heart too, because as you say in one of your books, you talk about how you were

You had a feature that you were, I don't want to say embarrassed by, but just didn't like about yourself. Can we dive into that a little bit? Yeah. So I mean, I was quote unquote normal looking until probably about the 10th grade. I went through a growth spurt and my jaw started growing basically twice as quickly as the rest of my face and the rest of my body.

to the point where when I was a senior in high school, my jaw was huge to the point where I could actually stick my tongue through the gap between my upper and my lower teeth. And I hated looking at pictures of myself from the side. And even if like with my senior photos from high school, you could see that it just doesn't look quite right. So I ended up having plastic surgery. I actually had my jaw broken and set back between high school and college. And it

really taught me the power of how changing your appearance can absolutely change the trajectory of your life because prior to that I had very low self-esteem. You know, I had self-image problems and I thought I looked deformed and then afterwards it really did help me. Now,

I go to college and here I think that I'm going to, oh, I actually look actually pretty decent now, like a regular person. And I thought, okay, the girls are gonna like me now. And I couldn't find a date through all four years of college. - I find that hard to believe. - No, four years, yeah. I don't know what happened, but.

Maybe you were just too shy to like seal the deal. I'm not sure. I don't know. But yeah, so, but that really did teach me how changing your appearance can really help to change your life in ways that, you know, I mean, I do all cosmetic surgery. I have a complete skincare center and stuff like that. But at the same time, you know, knowing that, I think personally, that does make a big difference. Absolutely. You had also said in one of your books that, yeah,

you had been, you were, you had some dark chapters dealing with certain physicians that were kind of self-absorbed and money hungry. Can you take me on that journey too? Yeah. I think you just called it like a God complex. Yeah. So, I mean, as a plastic surgeon, so I ended up doing three years of general surgery and then I did two years of plastic surgery and then I spent a year out in Beverly Hills where, where I worked with a top name plastic surgeon. And I tell you,

plastic surgery in Beverly Hills was a big eye-opener. 'Cause I did most of my training out in Michigan, in Michigan State, with plastic surgeons that I felt were ethical. They were there to take care of patients and stuff. - They had a heart. - Yeah, I mean, these are kind of Midwest, down to earth,

doctors were there to take care of people. Then you go to Beverly Hills and my gosh, it was crazy. And it was all about money out there. I mean, it was a point, I remember there was a situation once where I was working with a plastic surgeon and we were working on a woman, African-American, larger woman, we were doing liposuction on her. And she was HIV positive.

And we were doing the surgery on her. And all of a sudden he says, yep, that's it. We're done. And I go, well, we haven't finished the operation. Like there's still these other areas that we can make better. He goes, you know what? She has, she has HIV. She paid enough money. Like we don't have to do that anymore. And I was just like, what?

And I mean, I'm the fellow, so it's not my patient. I can't tell him, you know, we need to do this. But, you know, things like that, you see these things happen over and over again. Out there, I knew a doctor who would actually call the local news, lie to them about a

a death, let's say, that happened in the OR of a competing surgeon. And so I was there once where a doctor called and said, hey, yeah, is this ABC News? He's like, yeah, I'm not going to tell you who I am. I'm a local plastic surgeon. I need to let you know that Dr. So-and-so had a patient die in his operating room yesterday. You need to look into that. And it was so not true. Oh, my gosh. I mean, there are even stories of people sending patients to other plastic surgeons and

as a way to eventually sue them. So the patient gets surgery and then eventually sues them just to try to push these people out of practice. It's crazy. You guys need your own reality show. It's like the house husbands of Beverly Hills. That's crazy. That's so unethical and just wrong. Yeah. I mean, it's the stuff that happens out there was nuts. And so I really, after being there for a year, I ended up coming back to Detroit where my wife's family is from. And I started my own practice there.

You're like, I'm not working for anybody ever again.

Yeah, it's like I want to start. I want to do this the right way where I'm actually I'm here to take care of people. I've taken ER call for accidents and dog bites and stuff for 20 years. And yeah, there was a story that I read that you had said there was a lady that you had worked for and she said that they're the chronically ill in an emergency room. She had said something to you that kind of like offended you about the people who would come in the emergency room. They're chronically ill and they just kind of they don't say they don't get better and they don't die or something like that.

I mean, there are so many, you know, I think working in the ER and it's hard because

There are people who are, I mean, the healthcare system is so broken. Yes. And it's so hard because in the emergency room now is a place where a lot of people will go for everything. Yes. And they are completely overrun. You know, the emergency room at the hospital I work out of, I had a patient who was there recently. She actually was a patient of a different doctor who was admitted to the hospital with an infection. They asked me to take care of her. And I said, sure, that's fine. And she was there for months.

Three days and never actually got a hospital bed like a room. She was in the hallway for three days Because there just weren't any rooms available because so many people are using the ER unfortunately for things that aren't necessary So there's a lot of stuff going on in health care right now that if the whole system is broken and I'm not sure how to fix it But throughout my training that was something that you really saw a lot of absolutely, I

I myself have gotten into holistic medicine in the past probably I'd have to say four to five years and I love the fact that with holistic medicine it treats the problem and it doesn't put a band-aid on it like it tries to get to a deeper root of it. The root cause. Being a holistic plastic surgeon what does that entail exactly?

So basically the story is that I go to LA, I come back to Michigan, I start my practice, and we're taught in surgery the term to cut is to cure, or the only way to heal is with cold steel. And the idea is that your goal is to bring people to the operating room.

Now, if you're a general surgeon, the goal, ideally, the big surgery that you want to do is called the Whipple. And this is a large 10-hour cancer operation. And if you're so lucky that you can do a Whipple, you know you've reached the pinnacle of success. Wow.

In plastic surgery, it's probably the facelift because patients may trust almost anybody to do their liposuction. But you know if they're trusting you to do their facelift that you are, you know, the cream of the crop. Right. And so for many years, Bunny, I actually gauged the success of my practice based off how many facelifts I was doing, how many I had on my schedule. It's kind of dumb, but that was how I gauged it. Yeah.

And I got to a point where I was the busiest person in town. I had a one-year waiting list of people flying in all over the country to see me. And then I had a patient of mine who absolutely completely changed the trajectory of my career. This was a 60-some-year-old woman who came to see me for a facelift. And she looked like she was a good candidate for it. Her internal medicine doctor cleared her for surgery. And then she was even cleared by a cardiologist. So

So I perform the operation on a Thursday. It's about a three and a half hour surgery. We keep her overnight in the hospital, which at that time I was doing routinely. And then the next morning I saw her and she was doing great and I sent her home. The weekend goes by and Monday I get to my office and I have a message from her daughter. And the message was, why did my mom die?

And it, I mean, I was absolutely floored. I had this nausea in the pit of my stomach. I had, I like literally couldn't form words. And I eventually got on the phone with her and she said, my mom died on Saturday. Like what happened? I hadn't heard anything.

So it turns out that she suddenly died that Saturday, so like the two days like literally after her operation, and I went to her chart and I looked and like what happened here? I tried to find something that could have caused this. Was there a medication error? Was there medication interaction? Was there something about her health history that I didn't catch? And there was nothing, like nothing that I could find.

It turns out when her autopsy came back later on, she had a massive heart attack. Even though I had cleared her from a cardiologist standpoint, like I did everything. The only thing I could have done to prevent this was just not operate on her.

So this sent me into a complete tailspin. And for months, I considered quitting medicine altogether. I considered choosing a different, you know, going back to residency, finding some other type of a way to, you know, practice medicine. And I really questioned everything that I was taught.

And it got me into thinking, finally when I hit rock bottom and I just, you know, I prayed to God like, you know, what do I do? You know, what am I doing with my life? You know, there's this Hippocratic oath of do no harm. Like, am I doing harm? You know, am I, by doing these operations, doing harm on people? And it got me into really realizing that what I had believed was wrong. Like the goal of being a surgeon is not to bring people to surgery. It should be the opposite. It should be how do I keep people out?

surgery yet still help them to look and feel their best without going under the knife and then that started me kind of delving into alternative and holistic medicine and that eventually became this book and this concept of autojuvenation and it really is it's the fact that our bodies have the regenerative abilities to rejuvenate itself when I think of summer smells I think of sunscreen salty beach air barbecue on the grill and

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skincare and non-invasive treatments. And I firmly believe that 80 to 90% of people, if you focus on those things and you do it right, that you can look and feel your best and feel fantastic and look fantastic without having surgery and not feel like you need to.

absolutely and i love that message too because in a world where we are literally just bombarded with plastic surgery and stuff like that to hear of an actual plastic surgeon say hey you don't have to go under the knife you just need to do these things and i really truly believe you are what you eat like a lot of people will argue with you and say oh it doesn't matter no it really does matter the beginning of the year i started having some really bad health problems that i had no idea where they where it came from

cardiologist appointments. I had to wear EKG for a week. I mean, I'm talking like everything come to find out. No doctor could pinpoint what was wrong with me. They tried to put me on blood pressure, blood pressure medications. They tried to do everything. And I had to be my own advocate. And I was like, I'm not doing that. Come to find out I was allergic to rice.

Oh, rice was really setting off my body. But I, in order to find out that I was allergic to rice, I had to cut out seed oils. I had to go. I've been non-dairy for at least 10 years now, but no white flowers, no sugar, like nothing. And it has completely changed my entire being. And so you are what you eat and that's a huge thing. And then what's number two?

Number two is when you eat. And so that's something where, you know, one of the main causes of aging of our body is a buildup of cellular waste. And so basically our cells, just the act of being alive, we create cellular waste products. And these are proteins and organelles and things inside our cells that can actually build up. And this waste product can build up in our cells unless we clean our cells out from the inside.

And the way we do that, it's a process called autophagy, and that means self-eating. And essentially, when your body runs out of fuel, it starts to use this intracellular waste, these proteins and organelles inside our cells, and recycles them for energy. And that causes our cells to actually clean themselves out on the inside, to function more efficiently, more youthfully, and it's a great way to essentially turn back the clock and get our body working more youthfully again.

But for that to happen, we have to stop eating constantly. So the problem is, you know, as our standard American diet and our lifestyle, we are constantly snacking. And whenever you're constantly eating, you do not allow that process to happen. And so one of the main benefits, and I encourage people, even if you just do, you know, a 12-hour, a 16-hour fast, to try to do that where you take just a period of time, even as little as 12 hours, where you stop eating at 8 p.m. and you don't eat again until the next morning at 8 a.m.,

That's great because it allows your body that time for your gut to rest and for your body to kind of clean itself out from the inside using this process of autophagy. Yes, I love fasting. I fast every day. Like I'll stop eating at like 7 o'clock at night and then I won't eat until the next morning at like 12 or 1. But then every – I read a book called How to Fast Like a Girl written by Dr. – oh, gosh, I forget her name –

read that and she, it was amazing and it was life changing because you know, around a woman's period, um, you can also do these protocols and where you go into ketosis and it's so healing. I never, I have more energy when I don't eat and I fast than I do when I do eat. Is that interesting? Yeah. It's crazy. It's, it's the human body is so fascinating. Like it's,

We're our own science project. Yes. And I think the thing is that a lot of people don't realize, and traditional medicine is not good with this, is that I do believe that there's this thing called bioindividuality, where you may react poorly to rice, but I've eaten rice all my life. I grew up eating it, and I'm fine with it. But that doesn't mean because I'm fine with it that you should be fine with it. And traditional medicine is not really good with that part of it. And so really I think it's important to understand

to be aware of your own body and what your triggers are, like what makes you feel healthy and good, and to follow that even if it may not completely jive with what most doctors say that in general people should do. - Absolutely. Have you ever heard of the blood diet?

the blood diet? Yes. Is that some type of vampire thing? I know you guys are into macabre stuff. So the blood diet is you get your blood drawn and you find out what type, what your blood type is and you eat according to your blood type. And I always thought it was like kind of hocus pocus and I didn't believe it until I went through the health stuff. And my body just doesn't react good to carbs. Some people can eat heavy carbs and

And I just can't. Come to find out, both my parents are diabetics. So it's crazy and it's fascinating. So what's number-- we're on number three, right? Number three would be supplements. Supplements. Let's talk about that because I-- have you ever heard of the MTHFR gene mutation? They call it the mother effort.

Yeah, the mother effergine. Do you know a lot about it? Some, yeah. I mean, it is something that there is a belief that you may have an increased risk of clotting with that. And so some people who have multiple miscarriages, that's something that GYN doctors will look at. For us, we look at it for surgery just because of the potential risk of bleeding after surgery. Right, yeah. But yeah, I mean, that's, I don't know a ton. I mean, it's still...

The mother effer gene is still something that traditional doctors, some of them will poo-poo. And more of my functional medicine friends, they talk a little bit more about that. But I do think that that's a real thing that we need to pay definitely more attention to. Absolutely. I think it's becoming more widespread in the United States. And I think more people are coming to realize that I was diagnosed with that gene. So I say all this to say that certain supplements...

react crazy with my body. I overdosed on supplements. I heard that. By accident. Yes. Like how, who the fuck can overdose? I've never heard of somebody overdosing on supplements and having those types of symptoms, but I heard that story. Crazy, right? Yes. Yeah.

Anybody with MTHFR gene mutation aside, what kind of supplements do you recommend for a daily basis? Yes. So for me, you know, I have friends of mine who are quote unquote biohackers where they'll take like 100 pills a day. And that's just like, I mean...

If you want to do that, then that's fine. These are people who like they make their living just trying to biohack their body. But the vast majority of people like that's not doable. That's insane. I've never heard of that. Now I'm going to go study that. Yeah, and I have friends of mine who are like, well, depending on the time of day and how they feel that day, they'll take this drawer of supplements or that drawer. So the way I look at it is very basic. Everybody should take a good daily multivitamin. One of the main reasons why our skin ages is nutrient depletion.

There's a belief that our fruits and vegetables today are not as nutritious as they used to be. And this is a belief in holistic medicine. Yeah, and they say, oh, well, the soil has been, because of industrial farming practices, it's been depleted of nutrients.

So is there proof of that? Well, there actually was a study that looked at from 1950 to 1999, looking at various fruits and vegetables here in the United States and found a significant reduction in six key nutrients. And three of those ones that stood out to me are iron, protein, and vitamin C.

All of these super important for the skin, especially. And so supplements can definitely help with that part of it. So I always recommend taking a daily multivitamin. I recommend taking a omega-3 fatty acid supplement, so like fish oil, for the good healthy fats. I recommend taking a probiotic.

Because in the past, we ate a lot more fermented foods. We've got a microbiome in our gut. That is the trillions of bacteria that live inside our gut. And we are finding out over the last 10 to 15 years that the quality and the health of that bacteria is absolutely essential to our overall health. Absolutely. It's your first brain. Yeah. And there's crazy things that they've done. They've taken actually a rat.

and I've taken a rat that's overweight and a rat that's underweight, and they've actually done fecal transplants from the underweight rat to the overweight rat. And you know what happens? The overweight rat loses a bunch of weight. - Wow. - Because you think that by moving the microbiome from one rat to another, it completely changes how their body reacts.

And this is a lot of stuff that we just don't really know a lot about. But what we do know, once again, is a microbiome is extremely important. And we don't eat fermented foods in our diet at all, other than like-- - I love kimchi though. - Yogurt, yeah, and sauerkraut on brats, like in the summer, like that's it. Now I grew up eating kimchi, a lot of kimchi. We eat a lot of like pickled,

vegetables and stuff like that so really important to take a daily probiotic at least three billion colony forming units a day is what I usually recommend do you recommend the ones that have to be refrigerated they do the majority of them have to be for sure yeah that's usually a sign that it's probably good because if it's not then you got to wonder is it high quality right because you want to refrigerate them to make sure that they're still alive right yeah

And so then the next supplement that I would recommend typically is an antioxidant supplement. One of the main reasons why our skin ages prematurely is due to oxidation and free radicals. Essentially, these are damaging molecules that will damage the DNA of our cells. And these free radicals essentially are neutralized by antioxidants.

That's why people say, hey, eat the rainbow of fruits and vegetables, because the actual color of those fruits and vegetables, that is the pigment is the actual antioxidant. And so by eating various colors of fruits and vegetables, you get a lot of different antioxidants to help fight those free radicals. And what food has the most free radicals? Ultra processed foods.

And so trying to limit ultra processed foods in the diet is definitely healthy for your skin. I had to cut those out too. So I eat everything fresh now, which a lot of people always say, Oh, you know, it's expensive to eat that way. And I, and it is, America has made it very hard for people to not eat bad. It's more expensive to eat healthy foods than it is to eat foods that are not healthy for you. Yeah. Especially if you buy organic and stuff too. Yeah. It's crazy. It's crazy.

And then what was the fourth one? So the fourth one, so that was a fourth one where the antioxidants and then the fifth one is collagen, collagen supplements. So you taking a collagen supplement? Have you done that? I've tried and my body is so weird. It kind of like sends me into like a little bit of a depression. So I, ever since I did the overdose on supplements, I am just raw dogging life right now. But I try to get my supplements through my food. So I eat really healthy.

You can't out-supplement a bad diet. Right. So doing it that way is definitely better. Yeah, you think? Oh, yeah, yeah. Why can't I poop then? I'm just kidding. You're not on a carnivore diet, are you? No. I don't know how they poop because... I don't either. I don't get it. Like, if you get no fiber, like...

I, yeah, it would be bad for me. Yeah. I can't, I can't eat like I'll eat red meat once a month, like around my period. But like, I don't, I try to stick to like chicken, like lean meats, you know? But, um, yeah, like my digestive system is just completely thrown off. Um, since I got off supplements, it's been crazy. Um, but I do love collagen. I love any, so I,

Anytime anybody asks me, "Hey, do you ever just wish that you were younger?" And I'm like, "The only thing I'm ever jealous of younger women is their collagen." Yes. Like, I want it all. Give it all to me. Yeah, I mean, so we have 70 to 80% of our skin is basically made up of collagen. And so one of the things I really encourage people to focus on if you're looking at the aging process is really focusing on that collagen.

Collagen, basically they're like the logs of a log cabin and the collagen is what caused our skin to feel tight and firm and smooth and youthful and like everything in life, we start losing it, it starts getting thinner, starting at 1% a year when we're in about our mid-20s and then women, once they go through menopause, it goes up to about 2% a year.

and that's why you may see women who are in their 60s or 70s and they've got tissue paper thin skin and they get scratched and it literally can tear their skin oh my gosh so that's one thing you know if you can tolerate collagen supplements i do recommend them i do think they help studies show that they definitely help with the thickness of collagen in your skin the other thing though is collagen is a protein and so eating higher protein especially as you get older can definitely be helpful when

with your skin as well as other body parts as well. I preach to my team all the time. I'm like, you guys need more protein. Cause I eat like 135 grams of protein a day. Oh, wow. That's not easy to do, especially if you're intermittent fasting. No, it's not. Well, so I have perfected the art of an

eating window. So like I get all my, and I know that they say that you're only supposed to do like 35 grams each meal or something like that. But I just really try to like break up three meals and just make it work, you know? So I had a lot of yogurt in the morning, a lot of, um, protein, you know, the protein yogurt and then a lot of, um, you know, like

ground chicken, you know, for dinner and stuff like that. So, but yeah, I'm always preaching to them. I'm like, you guys need to have more protein. They're like, shut the fuck up. Leave me alone. And I'm like, no, it's like, it really helps your body. It is. And there definitely is a huge push now in nutrition and nutrition circles that,

The lower protein diets are definitely not the best, especially as you get older. We developed something called sarcopenia, and this is basically breakdown of muscle as we get older. And one of the things that we worry about as we get older and a very common cause of death is breaking a hip.

Okay. And so... God, that causes death? There was one study that found that over the age of 50, and I'm like 51, so I guess I'm in that group now. Goodness. I'm almost there. If you break your hip over the age of 51, it's something like a 30% mortality over 12 months. It's insane. Goodness gracious. Why? Is there like a... So it's just, it's so integral. And I think part of it is that it's so hard to recover from. Oh my gosh. And so a big thing as you get older is trying to keep

mobile, trying to keep your reflexes as well as your balance intact. It's so, so important. - Right. Yoga. - Yes. So that's one of the big things in my book is yoga. So really what you want to look at is balance and strength via the fast twitch muscle fibers.

To put it simply, you know, a lot of people as they get older, they believe that walking is the only exercise they need to do. Okay. And my parents and my in-laws, that's what they think too. It's like, oh, I walk, you know, two miles a day, so that's all I have to do.

The problem, but that's a fallacy. Now walking is great. It's super important. You know, if you get those 10,000 steps, that's awesome. And that will definitely help with your healing or with your aging overall and being healthy. Right. But the problem with just walking, when you think about it, is you're only using those muscles that propel you forward. Right.

You're not using any other muscles. - Anything else. - Okay? And those are called slow twitch muscle fibers. Slow twitch muscle fibers are those fibers that our body uses for kind of endurance, where you're kind of doing the same thing over and over again in a slow fashion. Those are slow twitch muscle fibers.

Fast twitch muscle fibers are those fibers that we, those muscles that we use for essentially explosive movement. Okay. So if you're going for sprints, if you're doing hip workouts, a lot of times you're using kind of the fast twitch muscle fibers. They're also the muscle fibers that will go into play if you trip.

if you're about to fall. Those are the ones that will steady you. That's why, you know, you may see an older person who's like 70 or 80 and they trip on something and they just fall and hit their face. - Right, it's like slow motion. - Yes, because they haven't been working those fast twitch muscle fibers so they don't have those reflexes, those reaction time where if you or I, we hit a corner or a curb and we start to fall, we will steady ourselves very quickly because those muscle fibers are still working.

So those muscle fibers, they degenerate as we get older. And that's one reason why older people, they trip on something and they just go straight down because they haven't been working those. So it's so, so important. You know, yoga, I think is awesome. Those are also slow twitch muscle fibers, but yoga will help you obviously with your balance, which is so, so important and flexibility. Stretching your muscles.

yeah exactly and it's so great for the mind and for overall stress reduction but at the same time definitely doing weight training doing resistance training as people get older not just walking and really there's three exercises that if you know if let's say you have you know somebody who's in their 60s 70s 80s and like well i haven't done resistance training ever yeah then there's three things

definitely to start with. And I encourage anybody who's listening, if you've got somebody in your life who's older, you can see that their mobility is slowing down, just have them do three things to start out with. Chest press, some type of a chest press where they can do it, you know, obviously if they can do a pushup, that's great. If they can't, you can do it like a Nautilus chest press.

either a squat or a leg press, okay, and rows. So chest press, squat or leg press, and rows. If they do those three exercises, resistance training exercises, that's gonna use most of those muscle groups that are needed to stay limber and strong and prevent those types of accidents as they get older. - That's amazing. I could sit here and talk to you for hours. I love learning stuff like this. There's a 60 year old lady who I saw on Instagram who is shredded, dude, oh, I whistled.

who is shredded. And I'm telling you, man, I was like, I want to be her, dude. Like she looked amazing. She had muscle tone at 60. Like it was crazy. So yeah, it is possible to, you know. There is a difference between healthspan and lifespan. Have you heard those terms? Yeah, I've heard them, but I didn't, I'm not in what you're,

about to say. Yeah. So lifespan essentially is what traditional medicine is really good at. It's extending your life, you know? And so we're really good at taking somebody who's 60 or 70, they have multiple medical issues and keeping them alive for a long time. And that's why our, um, that's why like our life expense expectancy keeps going up because we're essentially kept alive by medications, by interventions, you know, and treatments and things. Mm-hmm.

That is different than actual healthspan. The idea of healthspan is how long do you live where you are active and youthful and healthy and doing things that you want to do? And that's very different. And that's what we try to strive with kind of a lot of these alternative medicine ideas and a lot of the ideas in my book is how do we extend your healthspan

So that the ideal is that you live until you're like 100 years old and even when you're 95, you're out-- - Kickin' ass. - Yeah, and you are going on hikes, you're traveling, you're seeing the world, you're eating different foods, you're on very minimal medications and you're just feeling energetic and great and then something happens

and you die like versus the whole that steady decline starting in your 50s where just every year you feel shittier and shittier and shittier like that's kind of the way that we are taught now to age in our society and so by focusing on these things you know eating right taking some time to

not eat for a little bit, even if just 12 hours. And then getting on those supplements and being super active, even trying things like meditation, all of that can really extend that health span and help you live healthier, longer, and happier for as long as possible. I think meditation is huge also because it's such a stress reduction. And in our everyday lives that we have now, our lives are just so full of stress. It's like you have to put yourself first. And even if you have 10 minutes just

meditate and just try to decompress and just get, you know, I always visualize, um, breathing in a certain color and then blowing out a certain color. And that's the stress that's coming out and it's life changing. It's amazing. Cause a lot of people think, Oh, meditation, how boring. And like, what can that do? You know, I'll tell you my story with meditation. Like I was never really big on meditation. I knew it was good for us. Um,

But, you know, so the pandemic hits in March of 2020. I have a practice, a full medical practice. I've got 11 employees. And literally in the span of one morning, we come in and we're seeing patients. And at noon, I close the office down because my employees were freaked out. You know, they're hearing these stories of like, oh, my gosh, people are getting sick around us. And so I close it down at noon and I promise my employees, I say, look, you know,

I had just paid off all my taxes because freaking March, you know, and I say, look, I'm going to pay you guys. I don't know how long we're going to be closed for, but I will pay you. I will take care of you. You know, you guys go home and just stay healthy and all that. But I had no idea how I was going to do that. And so, yeah,

I volunteered for my local hospital. My wife and I, my wife's a physician, she's a pediatrician, and we both volunteered for our local hospital if they needed us, which, God forbid, like, if you've got COVID and you're, like, in the ICU and Dr. Yoon comes up to take care of you, like, you're screwed because I don't remember how to do any of that stuff. But, so thank God they never actually asked us to come in and help out. But that was...

That was such a stressful time because here I am, like I'm worried about my colleagues and my friends that were working in the hospital. I'm worried about my own family, my parents and my in-laws who are, you know, almost 80 at that time. And then I worried about my patients and also my employees and like, how am I going to pay my employees? So for the first time, I think since I started my practice, probably for the first time since I tell you about that patient of mine who died,

I would fall asleep fine at night, and then every night I'd wake up at two or three in the morning just with all these worries going on in my head.

And so I was talking to my wife. I'm like, I can't like I get I wake up and I'm worried and I'm stressed and Like what do I do and we started meditating together where we would just take literally 10 to 15 minutes And you could do a guided meditation. We did a lot of like peloton meditation Or sometimes I would do it by myself and just like you said just pay attention to my breathing like try to cut everything out and then just pay attention to breathing in and out and I tell you bunny, um

Every day that I meditated, I slept all night. And those days where I'm like, oh, I don't have time, I'm not going to do it.

two or three in the morning I would wake up. Like it was crazy how it was a direct correlation. There are studies that show that meditation can help you to look younger. It can make changes in your brain to function more efficiently and effectively. It is crazy how just that simple act of just what you said, just breathing in and out can reduce your stress and really help to improve your life.

It's wild because if you think about it, Buddhist monks have been meditating for decades. And I mean, look at them. You don't have to be a believer in Buddha to see that these men are like, they don't age. They're literally so peaceful and they literally meditate every day. It's an amazing outlet. And if anybody wants to ever start meditating, I don't get paid for this, but there's an app called Insight.

timer. Yeah, it's called insight timer. I've turned all my girls onto it. And she uses it for her daughter too. Yeah. And it's amazing. You guys can go on there and if you've never meditated in your life, they have beginner meditations and everything like that. So yeah. And now occasionally, you know, if I have anxieties and every once in a while I have some just like, and I don't know why, or sometimes it's before surgery or something.

Sometimes just in my car, I'll turn on a guided meditation for 10 minutes. Absolutely. And it's like you feel so much better afterwards. So now, since I've learned breathing techniques, and I know a lot of people in my audience do suffer from anxiety, and they're always asking, like, what do you do? There is a meditation that you can do, and it's you breathe in for six seconds, you hold it for six seconds, and then you breathe out for six seconds.

and it automatically snaps your nervous system out of fight or flight. And I mean, I could be in the middle of a panic attack just wanting to run, and I do that, and it calms me immediately. It's just fascinating what breathwork can do for you. I think that there's so much that our society we have lost touch with. Even fasting was something that

you know, Christians, Muslims, Muslims. Yeah, people have done it for centuries, but we stopped, you know, we just don't have time for it, you know, and same thing with meditation, you know, this is stuff that we have done, you know, whatever religion you are, like that's, has been a part of it, you know, in its own way, and it's just, these are things that we lose track of that are such healthy practices to get back to it, you know, and it comes back to even the food. It's like we, we, you know,

we used to know what our food came from, you know? And there's this idea of a food that is, you know, whole foods, not necessarily even plants, but whole foods versus ultra processed foods. And it's very simple really, is it's when you're eating a food, do you know what plant

or animal that food came from. It doesn't look anything like its original state. And it's funny because I grew up in the middle of Michigan, in a tiny town in the middle of Michigan. And it was a weird dichotomy because my parents, at home, we would eat traditional Korean food. So it would be like, you know, rice and fish and veggies and garlic and kimchi and stuff like that.

Which is a really healthy diet. And you know exactly what those foods are coming from. It looks like that food. And then I go out with my friends. We go to McDonald's and KFC and Burger King and all that type of stuff. And it was this weird dichotomy. And now the funny thing is we've kind of come full circle. And I've got two teenagers. And when I was their age, I was always at fast food places. And now my kids, it's weird because they go out with their friends. They get Poke Bowls.

You know, they get like sushi. They get it's like crazy. They get like Korean food and stuff. And it's it's good because there is, I think, a group, especially I think the younger generation are more understanding of like what's going on with our food and everything.

They're more woke. And I honestly believe that it is because of social media. Because, you know, back in the day when we were kids, it was like we didn't have social media. We only knew like what our parents taught us or what we saw on commercials or TV. Whereas now these kids have so much opportunity at their fingertips and they, you know, they can research. And, you know, so it's kind of even though social media can be interesting.

The Devil's Playground is also a catch-22 because it is informative and it is, I think, guiding the youth in a better way than we were guided as children. Speaking of food, if somebody wanted to say change their life after hearing this podcast and start a diet, what would be a typical day of eating for somebody who wants to start eating healthier and not eating fast food?

So the first thing that I would recommend, so let's start about what to try to reduce. Okay. So the great ager of our skin food-wise is sugar. Sugar is the number one cause of premature aging of the skin. And it does that because the sugar will actually bond to the collagen in our skin. So I mentioned earlier that the collagen makes up 70% to 80% of our skin. And when you ingest sugar, sugar will actually bond to that collagen, those logs of that log cabin, and will cause those logs to become kinked.

And the combination of when the sugar and the collagen hybrid, the connections of that are called advanced glycation end products or AGEs. Kind of makes sense, AGEs, you know, because they prematurely age you. And so sugar can do that by literally physically bonding to the collagen of your skin, causing your skin to feel rougher, to have more wrinkles, to be drier, and essentially more aged.

It also increases when you get sugar spikes, you get insulin spikes. Insulin spikes causes chronic inflammation. And chronic inflammation is one of the great ages of our skin and sugar once again being kind of the big thing. Now, it's important to differentiate

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Because there are a lot of treatments that we do that create acute inflammation. You can get laser treatment. You can get microneedling. You can get chemical peels. These all create acute inflammation. And when you cause acute inflammation or you damage the collagen of the skin in a very short-term way, when the collagen heals, it gets tighter. And that's why your skin gets- I love all those, by the way.

That's why your skin gets tighter after these treatments. Right. But chronic inflammation is a different thing. And so sugar can create chronic inflammation by chronic insulin spikes, and then that can cause premature aging as well. It also leads to autoimmune diseases as well. Well, when you have... You can get type 2 diabetes because essentially when you're getting so much sugar and the insulin keeps going up and down, up and down, eventually your tissues don't respond to the insulin so well. And if it's not responding to the insulin, your blood sugars go up, and then that's when you eventually get...

insulin resistance and then type two diabetes. And then that leads to all sorts of other problems. And so reducing the amount of sugar that you eat is the first step that I encourage people to consider. You know, you and I, we have a lot of our followers that live in the quote unquote flyover states. You know, I'm from Michigan, you know, you're Tennessee. Um,

I have a lot of my followers that live in small towns. They follow me on TikTok or on Instagram, and they're not living in Miami or LA or New York. And for some of them, just the act of, hey, going from three cans of soda pop a day to one or two is a big deal.

And so I encourage people who are listening, you know, whether you're a follower of mine or a bunny is that just to reduce some of the amount of sugar you drink. So if you have three cans of soda pop, try to reduce it to two, maybe substitute that other one for a can of kombucha, you know, something a little bit different or a green tea or something, or even just plain water, just water. Water. I'm not sponsored by them, but this is the best water in the world. Mountain Valley water. I love them.

because that just making those little changes can be huge deals and and i really encourage people who are listening that if you can do that be proud of yourself because those are big steps towards that that goal um the second thing i encourage people to do is try to reduce the amount of ultra processed foods because those once again they contain free radicals and then free radicals can cause damage to your skin by this process called oxidation

So taking those two huge groups of food out, I think is so, so important, a reducing amount that you can eat of that. And then what you want to replace that with are colorful fruits and vegetables. We talked about the antioxidants in them, healthy sources of protein. And so I'm a big fan of grass fed beef, of pastured pork, pastured chicken, wild caught fish, sustainably caught fish, you know, that are that you have vetted.

Okay, that's good too. How do you feel about tilapia? Isn't it man-made? So tilapia, there are some studies showing. So there are omega-3 fats and omega-6 fats. So when we look at all the different fats that we can eat, there are different kinds. So some fats are 100% we know are good for you.

Omega-3 fatty acids, which are the main fat that we know is healthy for us in fish, that's the big thing. Omega-6 fatty acids are called polyunsaturated fatty acids. These are the fats that are in things like margarine, in like seed oils. Mm-hmm.

And then some oils contain a combination of both. So like olive oil, which in general is really good for you, contains both omega-3 and omega-6. And the goal you want to is to maximize the amount of omega-3s and overall minimize omega-6 because we get way too much of that in our general and our society. And so in general, what you want to do then is eat those healthy sources of fats,

Those healthy sources of protein, okay? And then the healthy fruits and vegetables. And then trying to get rid of some of those ultra-processed types of things. Gotcha. And not all salads are good for you. I learned that the hard way whenever I was dieting is there's some salads that have more carbs

and more fat in them. Like when, if you eat a salad, you have to like really pay attention to what's in it. You can't just be like, oh, I eat salads every day because that could be. Yeah. I mean, if you douse it in a bunch of dressing and then you throw a bunch of bacon bits on it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So, I mean, it's the same thing with coffee. You know, coffee is a great drink in general because it's filled with antioxidants. I can't have

But when you throw a bunch of cream and sugar and you mix it up with all these syrups and stuff like that, you take, you know, what essentially is a really good, healthy drink and you make it, you know, a sugar bomb, essentially. Yeah, absolutely. And so really it's what you do sometimes with these basic foods that make a big difference. Absolutely. I could just pick your brain all day. Do you have time to answer a couple questions? Of course. From some of the,

I'm happy to talk about that. We can talk about anything, plastic surgery, anti-aging. They have so many questions about plastic surgery. So I figured I would let you answer their questions. These are for everybody on my Patreon. They are so excited that you're here. Oh, thank you. They actually came with a bunch of really good questions. So...

We'll answer a few of them and then we'll move on to a couple other topics. Is it healthier for a fat transfer instead of a breast augmentation? And would you as a doctor consider 48 too old to have said procedure if there isn't any major health issues?

Okay, so breast implants, I'm happy to talk about that and breast implant illness. I know you've talked about your experience with implants and stuff. So I've got definitely an opinion on that. As far as fat grafting to the breasts, a lot of people are talking about that now as kind of like a natural alternative. Mm-hmm.

And as a surgery, it is in general very safe to perform. Essentially what you do is you liposuction fat from your hips or your thighs or your tummy, and then we purify the fat and then inject it into the breasts. And as far as immediate complications, it's usually pretty low risk.

the thing that a lot of plastic surgeons and i don't know of anybody talking about this but me honestly like i have not heard anybody but me so maybe i don't know and everybody else does but when you think about it theoretically okay one in nine women will get breast cancer in their lifetime so the breast essentially is a cancer-prone organ as sad as it is that's the truth

We know over the last 10 to 15 years that our fat is chock full of stem cells. Stem cells are cells that are so young that the belief is that you put them into a body part and they will essentially turn into cells for that body part. And that's the reason why it's exciting for things like cancer if you have to have an organ removed, the idea is that, hey, I wonder if stem cells can help to remake that organ essentially.

So theoretically then what happens if you take a cancer-prone organ like a breast and you inject it with a ton of stem cells haphazardly all around the organ? What if, for example, you are 47, she is? She said 48. 48, okay. And let's say she has a family history of breast cancer. Let's say she has a cluster of dysplastic cells, meaning cells that are not normal that could eventually create a cancer. Right.

but there's so few of them and they're not that aggressive that they won't turn into a cancer until she turns 140 years old. But now you inject a bunch of stem cells around those cells. Those stem cells then will turn into the cells that they are around. Is it possible that now she develops a breast cancer when she turns 60 or 65? Oh my goodness.

I don't know. And we don't know the answer to that. And unfortunately, we won't know the answer to that for decades because these operations have just been getting popular over the last few years. And when I have brought this up with other plastic surgeon colleagues of mine, they kind of brush it off. They're like, well, you know, it's a safe operation. You know, we can't tell the future.

But these are things we need to know about. And so for me, I do fat graft into the breast in rare cases when patients have had, typically, let's say they've had implants and they've had some major complication and they feel that they don't look right and we try to reconstruct them essentially. But you really want to weigh those risks versus benefits. And really it's looking at

plastic surgery from a more holistic perspective. You know, I have this term called America's Holistic Plastic Surgeon. People are like, what does that mean? Well, this is one of those things. It's like not just focusing on the cosmetic result, but how does this affect your whole body? Because it does you no good if we make your breasts bigger with fat and then you develop breast cancer 15 years from now that you never would have had and we just didn't understand it because we never actually thought

about this in a more holistic whole body perspective. Right. Also another thing, um, about getting just fat transfer and the difference between an augmentation of, and fat transfer, because I have had my implants taken out. So if I were to go and get fat transfer, it doesn't create that bubble on the top. And I think a lot of people don't realize that when you just only get fat transfer in your boobs, it's going to fill out more of the bottom and like not,

have the roundness you can't create roundness with that it's just that you can maybe get about a half a cup because about half that fat's going to disappear right yeah unless it's me my body loves fat i had fat transferred to my ass and i swear it keeps growing it does but usually it's if you gain weight like i had one patient who i put fat in her lips then she got pregnant maybe a couple years later and she was like she messaged me she's laughing she's like oh my gosh my lips are so huge

- Oh, who knew that your lips could grow like that? But if you think about it, could the stem cells? - Well, it's fat, you know? You put fat somewhere and when you gain weight, the fat cells get larger. - Oh my goodness, that is hilarious. What is the scariest thing you've ever seen during a surgery? Any paranormal spookies?

You know, I can tell you this wasn't scary, but something that was, I guess, kind of in a paranormal. But this is not like the spooky thing. So I had a patient of mine. This is a story actually out of my book, Playing God. But this is a woman who came to see me. She was in her early 60s. She was really overweight and she had a cane. So she walks into my office on a cane, barely able to walk.

And I took a look at her chart and she is like has every medical problem known to man. Like she was diabetic. She had had stents placed from having a heart attack. She had was on blood thinners and like everything you can think of is what we call in medicine a train wreck.

And yeah, it's not a nice term, but this is what we call it. If you go to the ER and like, oh, this person's a train wreck, you know, oh, geez, they've got every medical issue. And so she comes to see me and I was like, well, what can I do for you? And she said, I had a tummy tuck done by another surgeon and everything fell apart. And she said, my tummy is a mess. I'm in so much pain that I can barely walk.

And she got tears in her eyes. And she's like, "Dr. Yoon, I need you to help me." She said, "I've been to 10 or 12 or some other plastic surgeons and everybody has turned me down and you're my last hope." So I said, "Well, what's going on?" And she said, "So I had this operation by this other doctor. They removed the skin from my tummy and then everything turned black. My tissue died and I was in the hospital for months. And now everything is scarred in and it's just so painful." And she got tears in her eyes and she said, "Dr. Yoon,

I can't even play with my granddaughter. She goes, the one thing I want to do is be able to play with my granddaughter again. And so I look at her information and I tell her, I'm like, look, you know, you've got so many medical issues. They probably turned you down because you're such high risk. Like you can die from this operation. And she goes, my life is over right now as it is. Like, what am I worried about? So, you know, somebody like that comes in and you look at all these things and you're just like,

dang, you know, if I were to bring this person to surgery, she could die on the operating table or she could have a bleeding complication afterwards. There's so many things that can go wrong. But this was one of those handful of times as a physician where I go over all this stuff and I look at it and I just have this sense of assuredness.

that everything was gonna be okay. And that this was something that I had to do for her. Although like the scientific part of me, you know, the rational part of my head is like, say no, don't operate on her. This is a big mistake. - That's scary. - But there was that part of me that was like, I've gotta do this for her. And for some reason I know it's gonna be okay.

So her surgery, so I tell her, look, I say, look, you know, I'm willing to do this operation for you, but I need to tell you, like, I don't know what's going to happen. Like, I can't guarantee a result. And I said, you know, we can try to get your insurance to pay for it. I don't even know what they're going to pay for it. And I said, well, but let's do this. I feel like I need to help you.

So the night before her surgery, I don't do this much, but I prayed for her and I prayed that the surgery was going to go fine and that she was going to do fine. You're such a sweet doctor. I get to the operating room, we do this operation and it goes so smoothly. Like it literally took like two and a half hours, removed all the scar tissue and

And she just flew in her post-operative recovery. And I knew at the time when I was operating, as things were going along, like I didn't feel alone. Like I felt like I was being guided. Right. So the funny thing is she comes back a few weeks later. I think I went on vacation or something, so I hadn't seen her. And she came back a few weeks later, no cane. She has a cake that she baked for me.

And she knew that her insurance had rejected the claim that they weren't going to pay for surgery. And she's like, look, I'm really sorry. I don't have any money to pay you. She goes, but here's a cake that I baked for you. And I tell you, Bunny,

I have a rule that whenever my patients bring in food to my office, I will not eat it because I don't know what their kitchen looks like. They could have Chachi like standing on their counters and like. You sound like me. I'm the same way. If I don't know where it came from, I'm not eating it. Oh, okay. What if they decided to make like, you know, weed brownies or something like that? Like, oh, okay. You know, that's really nice. It's like my usual, like, oh, thanks.

And so she tells me, she's like, Dr. Yoon, she goes, you know, she goes, why did you do it? Why did you do this operation? Everybody else turned me down and I said, you know, I just had this feeling that this was the right thing to do, that you needed my help and that I wasn't alone doing this, that somebody was guiding me. And so...

So she says, you know-- and she gives me a piece of the cake. And I'm like, I finally-- OK, fine, I'll eat it. So she thanked me. And she said, I was so excited. I was hanging out with my granddaughter last night. And I'm able to play with her again. And she just thanked me for it. And it's like-- I mean, so sometimes, every once in a while, as a physician, there are these handful of patients through your lives that-- through your career that just mean everything. And it has nothing to do with the money. It has nothing to do with, oh, this fine result that I'm so proud of. It's just like you change somebody's life.

And it just means everything. - It's chicken soup for the soul. - It's that type of thing. Just not quite so cheesy. - Yeah, I love that. That's a beautiful story. - Oh, thank you. - Tummy tuck or lipo for fluff that won't go away after having kids?

- Depends on wear and skin quality. So tummy tucks remove excess skin, typically below the belly button, above the pubic area. But you trade it for a hip to hip scar and a scar around the belly button, okay? There's no other way around it. Like there's no secret to it. It's just, you cut that extra skin and fat out, then you pull the skin down.

And then you trade it for those scars. Lipo is removal of fat. And if you've had multiple kids and you're talking about the tummy, most likely you're talking to tummy tuck. If you haven't had kids and you've got love handles or something like that, and your skin is pretty tight, then that's what lipo can help with. So tummy tuck is for excess skin of the tummy. Lipo does not do that. It

if anything can make it worse. Right. Yeah. So if you go and you get lipo and you have, you know, a lot of fat right there and they pull it out, the skin can hang. So you're just going to end up having to get a tummy tuck anyways. Yeah. So if you're unhappy with your tummy after having kids, most of the time, lipo is not going to be a good solution. Most of the time you're looking at a tummy tuck. What is the wildest request you've ever had for a surgery?

You know, I can tell you a wild story. Oh, I'm ready. Okay. I mean, I get wild requests, but this was like a wild story. I had a patient who came in to see me. This was, I literally was in practice for four months. So I'm this new plastic surgeon in Michigan. I thought I was kind of like, in my head, I was trying to present myself like as a Beverly Hills big shot because I trained out in Beverly Hills. And now I'm in like Rochester Hills, Michigan, this small town. And I'm, and, and, and,

At the same time, inside, I knew I'm brand new. I'm green. I've not treated people by myself before, and I was nervous. But on the surface, it's like, oh, yeah, sure. I'm a real plastic surgeon. I trained in Beverly Hills. I got this. So this woman comes in, and she had had a facelift and a brow lift done by a different plastic surgeon, a guy who was really not thought of well in my community as kind of a chop shot type.

And so she had some areas where a little bit of loose skin here, her brows had dropped again and stuff. And she's like, can you fix me or can you make things better? So I'm like, and she goes, I used to be a model and she was now in her late 50s. She goes, I used to be a model and now I'm just feeling like I've lost it. And can you please help me? And I felt bad for her.

So I said, you know what? Let me give you a discount and let's do this operation. And it was a brow lift and a facelift. And I brought her to surgery and the surgery went perfectly. So she comes back to see me at one week and she was happy at one week. And then at three weeks, she was happy. And then all of a sudden I get a call from her a couple of weeks later saying that I botched her and that she is going to go see some other surgeons to see what can be done to fix it.

So now, like, I'm literally four months in practice. I'd never had an unhappy patient before. I didn't know what to do with it. And so I call her up and I say, hey, what's going on? She goes, you botched me. I'm trying to find somebody to fix this. And so I said, well, please just come back to the office. Let's take a peek at it. Because last time I saw her, she looked great. Like, healing was fine. So I said, just come back to the office and let's just take a peek and see what's going on. You know, let's see what I can do to help you.

So she comes into the office. She comes barging into, I schedule her at the end of the day because I'm thinking like, I think she's mad and I don't want her to scare other patients away. So you always schedule them at the end of the day so that they don't like, you know, ruin the rest of your day and scare everybody away. So she comes in, she barges in the door and she is pissed off. Her face is bright red and she starts screaming at me. And she's like, you botched me. You botched me. You made me look oriental.

And I'm like, oriental? She goes, you made me look like you. And I'm like, what? And like, she's Caucasian, you know? I'm like, no, she doesn't look Asian.

And so I go, well, I go, let's settle down. She goes, I saw this other doctor and he told me that I'm a train wreck now, that you completely botched me. And I'm like, I'm actually really good friends with this doctor. There's no way he would ever say that. And I don't tell her this, but I go, well, I go, what can I do to try to make it up for you? Like, let's, you know, let's see what we can do together. And she goes, you better pay me a half a million dollars or I'm going to run you out of town.

And I go, I don't have, like, I was literally $200,000 in debt. Right. Did she look Asian? No, she looked fine. She was healing fine. I was looking at her incisions. Everything was healing fine. She had body dysmorphia. What she looked at and saw in the mirror was different than what everybody else saw. Oh.

So I'm like, I go, look, I don't have a half a million dollars. Like I'm like, I'm literally 200 grand in debt myself. And that's my debt. My wife had another 200 grand. So we're like almost half a million, the whole as it is. And so, so I go, I don't have that money. And she goes 400 or she was $150,000. You pay me $150,000 and I will forget that you destroyed my face.

And I go, look, you actually look fine. Like, let's talk this over. And then she goes, carte blanche, carte blanche. I get whatever I want by whatever surgeon I want for the next three years and you pay for it. And I'm like, I mean, what? This isn't like she's literally negotiating with you. So I go, look, I can't do that. Then she goes, if you don't do that, then I'm going to send you back to L.A. where the only people who allow you to operate in them are the whores. And she starts running through my office, literally screaming the whores, the whores, the whores.

She goes up to my big window and like a horror movie, she's like, I'm a monster. Looking at the window, screaming at the top of her lungs. And so I'm like, oh my. And now I knew that she was going to be unhappy. So I actually wrote her a check for what I had, what she paid me and what her hospital fees were. Like I would have, it's like more than what I made, like what she paid me and a lot more.

Because before she came in, I had this feeling like this is going to go bad. And I had a release for her where if she were to sign the release, then it releases me of indemnity of any responsibility. Yeah.

So I say, look, I go, I've got a check for the cost of your operation. I go, this is money that you paid the hospital to. I go, I will give you this check if you sign this release. And she goes, she looks at it. She goes, this is all you're offering me. And she goes, I will destroy you. I've got good friends in town and we're going to send you back to where you came from. And she looks,

leaves and slams the door and leaves. My employees are like hiding under their desks and they're like, oh my gosh. So I call up my old mentor in LA who he has seen freaking everything. I remember he told me back in the day, he said, I had a patient of mine. He goes, yeah, I had a patient of mine who was stalking me, would actually be in bushes in front of my house and looking through my windows.

And so I'm like, well, he had this person, like that person was nuts. So maybe he knows what to do. So I call him up and I say, hey, doc, I'm like this woman, she's like going crazy. I think she's going to like, she's threatened. She actually threatened to hit me with her car at one point. And she's going to like, I think she's going to attack me. And I go, what did you do to get rid of that patient? And he goes, oh, simple. I hired some guys to beat her up. And I'm like, I don't, I'm not going to hire people. And I don't even know who to hire to call anyway. Like not that I would hire somebody to beat up a patient of mine.

So I'm like, okay, thanks for nothing. And he's like, tell me what happens. This is exciting. And I hang up on him. This is exciting.

This is exciting. So I'm standing there. I'm like, what do I do? And my employees, their eyes are huge. All of a sudden, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. And she's at the door. And my employees are like, she probably has a gun. And I'm like, oh, my gosh. And they're like, don't open the door. And I'm kind of like a ninja. I creep up to where the window is. And I look around the corner. And I'm looking like there's no gun or anything. So I go up to the door. I open it up. She barges in.

takes a check that I put on the front desk, puts it in her pocket, signs the release, walks up to me and she goes, this is not over. And she walks out the door.

And so now the next day I had an operation. It was actually a breast reconstruction on a woman who had these huge breasts and she'd had cancer and this and that. It was going to be one of the most difficult, probably the most difficult operation I was going to do up to that point in my career. Poor thing. I could not sleep overnight and I called her up. It was like five in the morning and I go, I'm really sorry. I said, I can't operate on you today. She goes, well, that's okay. And she's so nice. She goes, we'll do this later. And I go, no, I go, I don't think I can operate on you.

And for months, I had lost all sense of confidence in myself because what did I do to this woman? So a couple weeks go by, and I'm at the hospital treating a patient, and I get a call from my office. And they're like, you need to come back. That patient's mom has left you a message. So I go, what is the message? And the message is, you need to call me. My daughter is suicidal. So now I'm like, fuck.

this now might what happened like my patient's gonna freaking kill herself because of this freaking facelift that i did on her and like what do i do i called one of my best friends a psychiatrist and i say brian like this is what's going on like what do i do and he goes you need to tell her mom to call the police and send her to the hospital immediately because you know if she's suicidal you've got to do that so i'm like okay so i call her mom up and i'm like hey this is dr yoon i'm calling you know you left me a message about your daughter and and you said she is suicidal is that true and she goes

What? Suicidal? What are you talking about? And I go, well, this is what message was left. And she goes, no, no, that's a figure of speech. She needs more money to pay for what you did to her. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Like this is an 80-year-old woman, 85-year-old woman trying to like blackmail me for more money. Oh, my gosh.

So I'm like, look, I'm sorry, this conversation's over. And like that was the end of it. And you never heard from them again? You know, so I referred her initially when she called before I saw her and that whole crazy episode happened. And I gave her some names of some local surgeons who are much older than me who have been very established. Right.

And so I ran into one of them at a meeting a couple years later. And he was like, hey, Tony. I'm like, oh, hey, how's it going? And he was like, you know that one patient? And I'm like, oh, I know who you're talking about. And he goes, she's effing crazy. She was just looking for a paycheck. I think that she saw this young, naive, like,

nice surgeon and was like and got a nice result I think part of it may be BDD like by dysmorphia and part of it is like I'm going to take this guy for everything he has and like now I would handle that experience very differently in my career like I would never let somebody talk to me that way but at the time I was literally four months in practice and like I was so green and just wanting to make everybody happy and develop this little practice and I was like

- So traumatic. - I hate that. I would think being a plastic surgeon, you would deal with everybody that comes in there has body dysmorphia. I know I have body dysmorphia. - It's like at least 10% of patients. Yeah, and it's tough. It can be really hard. - Crazy. - Yeah, but you know, in the end, it's the problem with by dysmorphia, I mean, you say, look, I have by dysmorphia. The fact that you say that means you probably really don't have much of it. And you may have some of it. 'Cause one huge thing with by dysmorphia

is that people who have it don't believe they have it. And so somebody will say, hey, they've got like a little bump on their nose. And for you and I, we may see them and go, oh, there's a little bump there. Their nose looks fine. But to them, that bump is the size of Mount Rushmore. And they don't understand why we can't see how horrible their nose looks.

And so a lot of times then they'll undergo surgery after surgery after surgery to correct a perceived problem that was never even there in the first place. And they don't even, and for them, the reality is very different. You know, they see things that we literally don't see. Like it's their reality. I have body dysmorphia all the time. You think so, Mimi? This podcast is brought to you by eHarmony, the

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You feel like answering a few more questions? Oh yeah, of course. I won't be so long-winded on the next one. No, you're fine. I love it. I love learning about this stuff and listening to it. It's just fascinating to me. Like, I've always wanted to ask a plastic surgeon, what is it like, I don't know if this is too graphic, but what is it like the first time you cut into a body? So we do that in medical school and residency, and it

you know the good thing is that you're not the first one to do it and so you're assisting right um and uh i think it's the first time it's your patient is when it's really scary right that's what yeah you know because being a resident there was always backup you know like when we did surgery and in residency you had the older surgeon basically saying like cut here i remember the first time they actually um i was operating with the surgeon i was i was a i think maybe an intern and i was doing essentially it was a hernia right and that's like one of the basic operations

And I'd never started an operation before. And we're standing there over the patient and he goes, Tony, get started. And I had a clamp in my hand. No, I had nothing in my hand. He goes, Tony, get started. And I had never started an operation before. So I'm like, and I grabbed the clamp off of the the the mail stand, which is the stand that the scrub techs have. And he looks at me like, you idiot. Are you going to make a cut with a clamp? I'm like, oh, no.

Like, oh, can I have a scalpel, please? So you got to start in somewhere. That's what I mean. Like, I could never do it. I would probably pass out. No, because it's baby steps, you know? I mean, our training, you know, for me, my training started when I was a medical student. And literally, you're talking, I mean, I did six years. My husband is FaceTiming, and I know he wants to say hi to you. So hold on one second. Hello, Jelly Roll. Big fan, my friend. Big fan. Oh, man. That's an honor.

I love you. We're in the middle of the pod, but I told him that I know you were calling just to say hi to him. Love you. Goodbye.

Sorry. So I just know that he was calling to say hi to you. It's all good. No, that's awesome. Yeah, I mean, it's baby steps. I remember back, you know, now it's like you start from literally doing the tiniest little procedures. I remember the first time I did a spinal tap on a little baby, and I was so nervous as a medical student. But the attending pediatrician was just so gentle and reassuring that you learn these things of how to help teach. And it gets to, you know, and I think the big thing that a lot of surgeons forget is

is that we were once at that beginning stage too, you know? So occasionally I'll have residents come work with me and stuff like that. And I think a lot of surgeons forget what it was like when you were at the bottom of the totem pole, you know? And my third book was called Playing God. And it's this idea that surgeons have of this God complex.

where they feel that they are just so superior sometimes to everybody else because they lose track of where they started. For me, I look at that medical student that was so excited to do a spinal tap and then so nervous because here's this little kid, this little baby, all the way up to now where it's like, yeah, I've had people say thank you for saving my life. And I've cut people's skin open and pull out. It's like when you think about it, how arrogant do you have to be to think that you can cut somebody open, especially in plastic surgery, where they're complacent?

completely healthy and you make them unhealthy for a period of time expecting that they're going to be healthy again. Right. And that that's how you make your living? Like how arrogant does it have to be? It's beautiful, but it's so barbaric at the same time. It can be. I had high def vasolipo and then I also had fat transfer to my ass and

I'm telling you, I don't know. The healing for that was brutal. Oh, really? Yeah. It was crazy. And it's fascinating to know that you can cut somebody open, take stuff out, sew them up again, and then the outcome is absolutely gorgeous. Well,

Well, it's like I said earlier, this idea of autojuvenation. It's your body has innate regenerative abilities to rejuvenate itself. Like our body wants to heal itself. It wants to be healthy. It wants to be vibrant and youthful, you know, and it's like you do things like that. You traumatize your body and it heals. And within a few weeks, it's like, wow, I'm back to exercising and stuff like that.

It's just, once again, we need to ideally give it the abilities, not the ability, but the tools to do that and the environment to do that. And that's what I think is so missing in a lot of today's lifestyle. And that's one of the big things I really bring up in the book. How do you do that? What tools do you give your body to get you feeling young and healthy and vibrant? I think that there are so many people today that go through life not knowing how amazing they can feel.

Absolutely. They don't know that all that gluten that they're eating potentially is causing them to feel real crummy. Yes. And unless they do what you did, go on an elimination diet, get rid of some of those things, it's like we have this thing in the book called the 21-day jumpstart. Mm-hmm. Where in three weeks or 21 days, basically what we do is we put them on a collagen-supporting healthy diet. Mm-hmm.

We start them on intermittent fasting weeks two and three, not week one because we want to kind of ease them into it. We put them on certain supplements and skincare and we do it just for 21 days. And the changes that we saw were incredible. Once again, giving your body just the right tools. We had people, and it's not like a facelift. Like if you got jowls, you do a 21 day jumpstart. I can get rid of jowls or loose skin or whatever. But we had people where they were actual strangers would approach them on the street and say, what are you doing with your skin? Because I need to do what you're doing.

Or they go out to dinner with their friends, not knowing that they're doing this jumpstart and their friends would be like, wow, your skin looks amazing. Are you doing something different? Like what's going on here?

And it's just allowing your body to use those natural regenerative abilities to, you know, don't get in the way of it, you know, and give it those things. Just be, I'm excited to read your books. I can't wait. Now that I know that you have four, I'm really excited because I'm an information junkie. I always just want to consume. So I'm super excited about that. It says I have factor five leaden clotting disorder with previous DVT slash PE. Would I ever be allowed to have elective surgery? Yeah.

The answer is yes. So what she says is she's got a clotting disorder and the fact that she's had a DVT or PE is a big deal. It's in your leg, right? Yes. Pulmonary embolism, right? Yes. A PE is a pulmonary embolism. A DVT is a deep vein thrombosis where you get a clot in your deep veins. That can kill you. When you look at people who die from plastic surgery, then the most common cause is a DVT, a deep vein thrombosis, a clot in your leg that eventually goes to your lungs being a PE and then people die from that. Goodness. And DVT,

And the ways to prevent that would be number one, to walk after surgery. Number two, to have less length of an operation, a shorter operation.

And so for her, having that risk, most doctors, if she came to see me and wanted a high-risk operation like a tummy tuck, I would probably say, depending on what her condition was, if it was really purely cosmetic, it wasn't that bad, then I would really talk to her. Like, are these risks worth the benefits? Because you can put a patient like that on blood thinners, right?

and help lower the risk of that happening, but then you increase the risk of bleeding, okay? Because you put them on blood thinners afterwards. So you can technically do it, but do you want to go through that? That's gonna be the big question. So it comes down to what operation you're thinking of, and then is it worth taking the risk of going on blood thinners for that operation? And so let's say if her situation, she's like, look, doctor, you and I have had four kids,

I've got skin that's hanging down to my mid thigh, it's it's shapes, I've got infections and stuff like that, then it may be worth taking that risk. If it's well, I kind of want implants because I'm a C and I want to be a D, then maybe it's not really worth taking that risk, you know, because do you want to potentially die from that? And so really it's weighing those risk benefits that's most important. It's a great answer, though, for sure.

- Gosh, pulmonary, I just ripped my calf muscle on Halloween. It was the worst thing ever. And I kept telling everybody, I was like, I'm gonna get a blood clot, I know it. I was like so scared because you know, I've never had that type of injury. - You gotta move. - Yeah, you gotta walk, that's the big thing. - I did, I did for sure. And I got a compression sock and I still worked out even with the injury. Like I was like, I'm determined to not do this. What is the most common procedure that you do? And also what is your least favorite procedure to do?

So the most common procedure in my office is Botox. I mean, we are injecting Botox all day long in my office. I've got five injectors. Yeah, I mean, it's great. And I've injected myself here before. I just got Daxify a few months ago, which is believed to be a longer-lasting version of Botox. Mm-hmm.

is it like this port this port is more so this port botox and dax fire you get the same result the idea really is that the dax 5 will last longer and there's little minor tweaks in between like this port is more of a softer result usually a lot of people believe it spreads a little bit more gotcha um dax phi is mainly longer lasting gotcha um and so in the office uh the number one thing is going to be botox as far as procedure surgery my most common is breast implant surgery is breast augmentation um

- Least favorite operation, honestly, was rhinoplasty. I used to do a lot of rhinoplasties and I just never liked it. - Brutal. - So I stopped doing them. - Why did you not like doing them? - So I trained with them and I saw a lot of just nightmare revisions, not of my patients, but that you try to fix. And it's just, it's a really hard operation to get a patient happy. - And it's like the center of someone's face, you know? - Yeah, and the problem, the thing I didn't like about rhinoplasty is that you could do such a good job

It's so tedious and it's so tedious. And the problem is you could get scar tissue that can develop that is not under your control that can really impact your result. Because just a millimeter of scar tissue on a nose can be visible from a normal speaking distance. Wow. And so because of that,

And some of the result is not in your hands. And so of all the surgeries we do cosmetically, rhinoplasty or nose jobs has the highest revision rate where people want to go back to surgery to fix it up. And if you don't have your own operating room, which I do not, then you get in this really uncomfortable situation where if you get your nose done and you're unhappy with it and you want it to get revised, who

who pays for it? Right. You know, I could do it for free, but then who pays for the anesthesia in the operating room? You know, and then you get into that situation. Well, geez, if I think it's a good result, but the patient doesn't. Right. Do I then pay the bill for that to try to make them happy? Do they pay for it? Like, it just, ugh. You're such a nice doctor. I just always felt bad. And so I just never liked doing it. Most doctors would tell people to go F themselves.

Yes. I've never told the patient to go F himself. I've wanted to sometimes. Usually the people I want to say that to are like the husbands or boyfriends of the patients. They, I often want to say that too, but not the patients so much. Do you get that a lot? Like the boyfriends come in there and they're just like, like putting their input on what they want their girlfriends. It drives me nuts. Yeah. If you see my social media, that's a lot of what I do is because like you just sometimes sit there and like,

I mean, it baffles you what some of these guys are doing. Like I had a patient just not that long ago who had a complication from another surgeon and came to see me. This patient was literally lied when they say, oh, you know, I want to get a consultation. It was for breast implants. And I want to get a consultation for breast implants. We got her in and then she came in. She had a tummy tuck down by me before, which had healed fine.

And she had had surgery literally three weeks before she came to see me. Oh my gosh. She had implants put in by a different doctor. And she was really unhappy. No, she had her implants taken out. That's what it was. She had her implants taken out. She had an explant. And it was a mess. And so she came in to see me and she's like, and the consult was for an explant. But they didn't tell my office that it was three weeks that she had it by another doctor.

So I'm looking at her and it was an out, like when you do explant surgery and you essentially, these are taking implants out of somebody. Now, if you've got like, you know, you had large breasts and so you take your implants out and your breasts just look smaller and they look flatter. But if you don't have enough breast tissue and you take implants out, it can look like

like a balloon that deflated and, but stayed stretched out essentially. So that's what she looked like. They do fluff back up though after it took, see mine fluffed up a lot after I'd have to say six months to a year. My boobs look like they did when they, I was 19. Like they were like, I, maybe I was a lucky one, but yeah, usually that's not the case. Yeah. I mean, I, I, everybody thinks I still have implants. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, it's probably just naturally you've got large breasts. And I do think that sometimes the body wants to be a certain size. Right. No matter what you do. But this patient was a mess. Right. And I was just like... And it was three weeks out and she's like, what do I do? And I said, look, the only way for us to fix this, honestly, is to put smaller implants back in and then...

Heal give it six months to heal and we'll take those out and do this the right way That's the only way I can fix you the other surgeon recommended in fat grafting But her she had so many of these folds in her breasts where things had deflated and has scarred in and we're starting to scar in I'm, like I can't fix that. We have to put the implants back in Reinflate you and then we'll do it the right way and and and she goes. Yeah, that's the right thing to do She goes that sounds correct and her husband's like nope. We're not doing that

and i look at him i'm like what and she's like and she looks at me she's like i think this makes total sense you know the other doctor really messed it up and like it doesn't look right he goes that's not my plan i've got my own plan for you oh and he was some type of a doctor but he was not a plastic surgeon right yeah and so i'm looking i'm like okay and i go and i explained exactly like this is what totally makes sense and it really when you look at her body like it

100 this is a way to get her looking the way she wanted to right and he is just like nope i've got my own plans and you know thank you so much for your time doctor we're leaving that's so cringy after she had she is like yes this makes sense to me let's do this dr yoon and then he all he's sitting there and you know they have his arms folded and it's like nope nope you're not doing that i got my own plans for you and like what kind of doctor is it maybe it's a podiatrist for all i know like

why is he deciding what she should have done? You hear this, all this type of stuff all the time. Yeah. I don't think I've ever brought a man into my plastic surgery appointments because I, it's my body and I'm going to do what I want with it. I don't care what their opinion is. So ladies leave the men at home unless they're supportive. Yes. Yeah. I mean, and I'd say 95% of men who are there are super supportive. Whatever you want. Like you,

I don't think you need anything. You're beautiful the way you are, but whatever you want is fine. I'll support you. And like, that's the way you got to do it. But every so often you get some guys that are just like, yeah, I want her to be bigger than that. And you're just like, what? Like, she's like, I like this size. I'm like, honey, you told me you're going to go bigger. You know, I like big breasts. And it's like, oh, I can't stand that. It just, yeah. Like you just want to smack them. Yeah.

Let's touch base on your social media because you have a huge following on TikTok. You're at like, what, 8.1 million? I think I'm at 8.3 or something. Yeah, like that's insane. Like you are TikTok's...

plastic surgeon yeah it's kind of funny do you love the teenagers like they recognize me and my kids get a kick out of it oh i love that i'm actually somehow the cool dad like i was never the cool teenager but i'm somehow the cool dad isn't it crazy how life comes full circle i think it's more like not a full circle more like 180 degrees but i mean you do such a good job like is thank you do you have a marketing team or do you do that all yourself no it's all

I love that. Yeah. It's, you know, it's when the pandemic hit and I started creating content. I just, I was trying to figure out how do I, how do I like pay my employees? And the biggest check I was getting was from Google for my YouTube channel. So I'm like, well, let me create more content. And I wasn't worried about getting patients in because my office was closed for two and a half months. So I was like, Hey, let me just create content that could make people smile, take them out of the crowd.

crazy, lonely, scary time for even 30 seconds. And it's like what you're doing. I mean, it's, I love what you're doing. It's like, you give people a chuckle. It's like, you're not taking yourself too seriously. And people love that. And, um, and one of the best things I got is I had all these messages after, you know, things kind of opening up and it's like, Hey, thank you for keeping, for keeping me company during the pandemic. I was lonely and I, you can help keep me company. I'm like, Oh, that's so cool. Yeah.

It's amazing what just a smile can do for somebody. You never know who's watching that video on the other end. And I think it's awesome that you have created this community of a safe space where people can actually come to you and you're actually accessible. Most plastic surgeons or doctors of your stature are not accessible. And I think that's what kind of sets you apart. I think that part of it is like...

It's weird. Not caring about clout gives you clout. Right. And there's so many people in my field who are buying followers. Oh, yeah. They've got more Instagram followers than me, but they get three comments and 20,000 likes. And you're like, what? There's something wrong here. Yeah, you're like, what's going on? Yeah, the field of plastic surgery, it's...

There's a lot of really good doctors out there, and then there's a lot of people who are just, they want clout and they want money, and that's all that matters, and it's just, it's nuts. And there's so much more to life than that. Sitting here talking to you makes me have faith in the medical field again because for the longest time I lost hope because you run into so many doctors who don't have a heart and don't care about their patients. And sitting here with you for this past hour and a half

two hours has been kind of healing because we need more doctors like you in the world and people who actually really care and have a heart and, you know, want people to heal and not just hurt. So thank you. I think that there's a lot of doctors who want that. I think there's a lot of doctors, unfortunately right now that don't know what they don't know. And what we're talking about, a lot of things we're talking about with kind of alternative medicine and holistic medicine and looking at the root cause of,

of both aging as well as disease, there is a big trend towards going in that direction. And I'm really happy to see that. And eventually traditional medicine is gonna get there. 'Cause for me, I believe that the best approach when you're looking at health

is combining both the East and West. Is it true what we call an integrative approach where you combine traditional medicine, which is definitely needed. When you get injured, you need traditional medicine. Absolutely. But with alternative medicine and progressive kind of health where we're looking at things like your environmental exposures, like what you're putting on your skin, like the type of food that you're eating, all that is so, so important. And they're just not getting it in traditional medical school much at all. Yeah. But there's a trend that direction, and I have faith.

in the younger generation that they're going to make the world a better place than what you know see i'm gen x yeah you're a millennial no i'm uh i'm 43 so you're a millennial i think nope i'm gen x you're x with me yeah as i say i mean i feel like our generation has dropped the ball a little bit like i feel like the i see my kids and their generation and i feel like

They're less judgmental than we are. They care more about the environment and the world and doing the right thing in general. - That's because we raised them right. Our parents, we kinda had to get our parents' trauma pushed on us and the way that they were raised pushed on us, whereas we kind of figured it out for ourselves as we got older, so now we're giving them the opportunity to be less non-judgmental and more open to things. - I think there's definitely something there

But I have faith in that the world is always... It always goes in the right direction eventually. It fits and starts, and ups and downs, but eventually it goes in the right direction. I love it. Dr. Tony, your book comes out January 2nd, correct? And it's going to be...

could buy it anywhere so yes so it's called younger for life um it's wherever books are sold i try to encourage people to support your local bookstore one way you can do that is if you um go to bookshop.org bookshop.org is a website where kind of like amazon or barnes noble and stuff like that where if you actually put the book in there and you can actually choose your local independent bookstore and anything that you buy that profit of that sale will go to that independent bookstore oh wow

Oh, wow. I never knew that. Yeah. So if you've got a little one like a small bookstore in your community and they're not big enough to have their own big website and fancy website, most of the time they're going to be on bookshop.org. And if you buy the book, like my book, Younger for Life on there, you can choose that bookstore and then actually give the profit to them.

So it's really cool that way. But otherwise, it's at Costco. It's a target everywhere. You know, I don't want to get those places mad at me. How accomplished do you feel, though, being an author of four books like that's amazing. I'm writing my first book this year and I couldn't even imagine having four. It's like it's like having a baby. It's you're proud of it, but it can be quite painful. The writing process. But in the end, like when you see the results of it and you hear from people whose lives are changed from it, it's definitely makes that path worthwhile.

That's amazing. You guys go out and get this book when it drops by the time this, this will probably be coinciding with your drop too. So yeah. So you guys go out and get this book. I'm going to read it. So I'm sure you guys will hear about it on future podcasts. Dr. Tony, thank you so much for coming and just sitting with me and,

I just love picking your brain and I, you need to come back like once a year. I'd love that. Definitely. That would be awesome. Why don't you tell people where they can find you and your practice and plug all things. So I'm all over social media. If you are interested in book, they'll go to autojuvenation.com. So we talked about autojuvenation, the kind of five ways to target that, but autojuvenation.com. If you do buy the book, we do have free gifts, including a companion recipe book with,

really tasty recipes. We give a $30 gift certificate to my online store, Yoon Beauty. So I've got my own line of natural and organic skincare products. Yes, which he brought me a whole lot.

Yes, yes. I hope you like them. I'm going to rub them all over my face tonight. You guys have no idea how excited I am. The idea is that You and Beauty is a combination of medical grade products that are natural and organic. The idea is to bridge the gap between natural products and medical grade products so that you kind of have the best of both. So we give you a gift certificate for that. There's a quick start guide, a bunch of other things. If you get the book, go to autojuvenation.com.

Yay, love that. And then social media is just Dr. Tony everywhere? It's Dr. Yoon. And then Instagram, I'm Tony Yoon MD because I can't get anybody there to let me change my name. Are you verified? I'm verified everywhere. Yeah, that's why. Once you're verified, you can't change your name. I can't get a hold of anybody on Instagram either way, but all the other ones I can. Yeah.

but yeah you can just find me but dr yoon you'll find me i'm very easy to find i'm everywhere you're awesome thank you so much appreciate it all right thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of dumb blonde i'll see you guys next week bye