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Industry Roundup #2: AI Agents for Data Work, The Return of the Full-Stack Data Scientist and Old languages Make a Comeback

2024/12/6
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Adele: 本期节目讨论了数据科学编码代理、全栈数据科学家回归以及旧编程语言回归三大趋势。数据科学编码代理在机器学习领域应用广泛,但大型语言模型的附加价值尚不明确。Snowflake中内置的AI代理通过限制范围来提高特定任务的性能。构建数据科学特定编码代理的关键在于明确范围,从不需要创造力的任务开始,逐步扩展和迭代。针对数据分析创建代理比数据科学更容易,因为业务问题有限,更容易创建有效的代理。 Cassie Kozyrkov: 数据科学家分为两种:全能型和专业型。全能型数据科学家稀缺,专业型数据科学家更易于完成任务。 Richie: 全栈数据科学家能够处理数据团队可能遇到的绝大多数问题,尤其在小型组织中非常有价值。除了数据技能外,产品意识、沟通能力和项目管理能力对于未来优秀的数据科学家至关重要。对全栈数据科学家的定义存在多种视角,既可以侧重技术能力,也可以侧重业务能力。全栈数据科学家的回归并非以传统方式进行,而是呈现出多种职业发展路径。Fortran和MATLAB等旧编程语言的受欢迎程度正在上升,这可能与PyTorch速度慢以及MATLAB的良好文档有关。Fortran的流行可能与其在高性能计算和科学模拟方面的应用有关。R语言在个人学习者中正在失去流行度,但在企业级应用中仍将持续存在一段时间。Julia语言未能获得应有的关注度,而Rust语言正在成为数据领域中一种新兴的语言。Rust语言正在与C++和Fortran竞争,并通过Polars等项目在数据领域获得关注。Python将继续保持其在编程语言领域的主导地位,SQL语言的改进也值得关注。

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Key Insights

What are the potential use cases of AI agents in data science?

AI agents can automate machine learning tasks, participate in Kaggle competitions, and assist with exploratory data analysis. They are particularly useful in machine learning but may struggle with broader data science tasks due to the need for creativity and communication skills.

Why might data science agents be limited in their capabilities?

Data science involves both technical and creative aspects, including problem-solving and communication. AI agents are better suited for narrow, repetitive tasks rather than broad, open-ended problems that require human creativity and reasoning.

What is the difference between 'and' data scientists and 'or' data scientists?

The 'and' data scientist is a highly skilled unicorn who can perform multiple roles, such as statistics, programming, and analysis. The 'or' data scientist specializes in one area, such as regression or scatterplot creation. The 'and' data scientist is rare and often found in startups, while the 'or' data scientist is more common in mature data teams.

Why is the full-stack data scientist making a comeback?

The full-stack data scientist is returning due to the need for holistic problem-solving in smaller teams and startups. AI tools can help fill gaps in areas like data engineering and analytics, making it feasible for one person to handle multiple roles.

What skills define a great data scientist in the future?

A great data scientist will need product sense, communication skills, and project management. These skills ensure that data solutions align with business needs, are effectively communicated, and are delivered with stakeholder involvement.

Why is Fortran making a comeback in programming language popularity?

Fortran is seeing a resurgence due to its performance in high-performance computing, such as weather forecasting and deep learning model optimization. Some users are rewriting critical parts of code in Fortran to improve performance over Python-based frameworks like PyTorch.

What is the current state of R in the programming language landscape?

R is declining in popularity compared to Python, especially among individual learners due to fewer job opportunities. However, it remains relevant in industry use for the next decade, particularly for data analysis tasks where its tools like the tidyverse and ggplot2 are still preferred.

What is the future of Python in the programming language space?

Python is expected to remain dominant due to its widespread adoption and versatility. It has become the de facto standard for data science and programming, much like the QWERTY keyboard, ensuring its continued dominance.

What are the predictions for SQL in the next year?

SQL is expected to evolve with improvements in syntax and usability, influenced by tools like DuckDB. Despite being 50 years old, SQL continues to be a cornerstone of data work, and its language is still improving to make it easier to learn and use.

What is Adel looking forward to in 2025 regarding AI?

Adel is excited for a correction in the AI space, where hype subsides, and more grounded, valuable applications of AI emerge. This could lead to a more mature industry with less overpromising and more practical AI solutions.

Chapters
This chapter explores the emergence of AI coding agents in data science, examining their potential use cases, limitations, and impact on data teams. The discussion covers various agents like Arya, and explores the challenges of building data science-specific agents versus general-purpose ones.
  • AI coding agents are becoming increasingly sophisticated and specialized for data science tasks.
  • Early applications focus on automating machine learning model fitting and streamlining code generation.
  • Challenges remain in replicating the creative problem-solving aspects of data science.

Shownotes Transcript

Welcome to DataFramed Industry Roundups! In this series of episodes, Adel & Richie sit down to discuss the latest and greatest in data & AI. In this episode, we touch upon AI agents for data work, will the full-stack data scientist make a return, old languages making a comeback, Python's increase in performance, what they're both thankful for, and much more.

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